REAL Paragon Talk w/ BritikHD & Sylphin - The Future of Paragon

[@BritikHD]

#SaveParagon

[@Vexkion]

#SaveParagon

[@real_ez8412]

#SaveParagon

[@_Crunch]

#Savecrunch

[@sheikhahmed5779]

#SaveParagon

[@Emil-lh6xj]

#RipParagon

[@mistaclutch2780]

IMO they should: 1) change the jungle and make it "feel" like an actual jungle (its too simplistic rn) 2) bring back out-of-combat animations (not the movespeed, only the animations) 3) try to remove "cheesy" strategies like 2 shot-kills, Stealth buff or Vampiric blade giving you all your health under a sec. 4)Add an actual Arena game mode to satisfy COD players. 5)Stop worrying about match length and more about fun. 6)ADD CONTENT (cards, gems and heroes more often)

[@jomarmendez3361]

MistaClutch 27 agreed with everything you said :)

[@explosionmental2781]

yep

[@davidmorales7371]

MistaClutch 27 cheesy tactics and match lengths are my to most hated thing about the game. If a game is an hour or more who cares if it's intense and fun.

[@norbertoperes6433]

MistaClutch 27 love #4😂👌

[@mistaclutch2780]

David Morales exactly!

[@kyzannslair5721]

aye 2 of my favourite KZbinrs coming together for a productive discussion

[@misterboo4080]

Legacy was a beautiful beautiful map. They didn't have any kind of like tournaments or anything like that when Legacy was around they save that for monolith. Legacy would have been fine now with all the changes they had made and Legacy itself as a map has much more strategic value than monolith not to mention monolith is Bland and ugly compared to Legacy.

[@Ruptured_AU]

agree 500%

[@davidmorales7371]

Absolutely

[@slateralden4178]

I'm sorry Sylphin.. I love your dedication and have been a steady viewer for a long time, but the problem is that matches aren't rewarding. The wins and losses are rarely rewarding. I used to ADORE this game (had a founders pack!) and still is my most played game.. But I find no joy in it anymore. The wins feel hollow. The losses feel hopeless. About to move on

[@LOCO2009hec]

Slater Alden agreed! 💯

[@kkhamitk630]

Slater Alden THIS

[@Ruptured_AU]

Bigger map. The thing about "bring back legacy" is not scrap everything. Just give us a big map where not have every game about flash mobs and cc chains. Keep everyting in moolith so far just bring back the map. Big jungle, verticality meant something, orb dunks, harvesters. Obviously wont have harvester keys but could easily just activate by standing on them. Being able to have a 1v1 fight sometimes and multiple fights going on in different parts of the map. Having room under towers to actually move around and fight instead of being wedgesd in a corner with nowhere to go if they dive you. The legacy map was the biggest fun factor imo and the new card/gems system is fine. Manoeuvring around legacy was the best thing about it. The map had way more verticality than monolith does now. Id even settle for just scaling monolith up a lot more and filling in the jungle with more than just heres some camps to kill in this little green area. Just went back and had a look at legacy and right away just from the video it feels way more immersive. The map was amazing. More enclosing overgrowth uneven ground hills and pathways. Monolith is l so plain in comparison doesnt matter how pretty you make it if the layout is just plain boring and small. Also because towers were big engaging under them was a real skill with great punishment if you couldn't secure the kill fast enough. Requiring abilities to escape instead of just casually walking and out of it or even just standing on the edge and shooting the person under it without consequences. In monolith I often step in and shoot someone one repeatedly poking them and step back before the tower can hit me. There just no room for defenders to do anything and its almost always rewarding to tower dive someone. Just personally I really thing the map needs addressing more than anything else. Bring fun back into the game and iron our the other stuff later. Who cares about match leangth if the game is boring. Immersion is so important and it kinda seems the whole point of paragon being a moba done in 3rd person. Monolith currently feels just like a box to fight in. Towers are easy to kill, the risk of diving is low and the reward of diving is high, towers fall easy and defending a tower is high risk low reward. I mean at level 3 or even 2 if you want you can just group up and dive a carry and probably kill the support too and just roam to the next lane and do the same thing to someone else. Also if theres an enemy minion wave and 2 or3 ppl coming under your tower and your alone.. you pretty much have to give that tower away or you will die with it. Bigger towers meant you could move around and do something about it before all 3 of them just jump on it and kill it in under 2 seconds. in monolith you just take 2 steps forward and kill it. In legacy you had the little bit of extra time for the defender to split you up or kill the minion wave. Make towers big enough to manoeuvre around in and fight under. If were keeping monolith I think it should just be a lot bigger and fill the jungle with more paths hills and forestation to make it interesting and immersive. I want to feel like im in agora again. Thats whats missing.

[@aaronjames3833]

Thank you Sylphin and BritikHD for this video

[@armandilloamarillo]

I think a good compromise for the people who do like monolith and people who want legacy would be to increase the size of monolith by maybe 25-50%. That way you can still have the same layout while also giving room for more objectives to put into the game, maybe prime dunking for the legacy fan boys. And really we just need more items, which sounds too simple of a solution to do any good but it helps in giving players diversity for builds to keep the game interesting.

[@real_ez8412]

Arman Taghehchian we also need ward's back 1 infinity with ward's ward's should be given as it's own slot a ward never bothers a good kallari

[@armandilloamarillo]

Easay9 Games yeah, universal utility cards would be good. To balance it out have the order affinity give different variations of wards while the universal one is just lamplighter

[@clayton3545]

Easay9 Games no wards should stay like this cause u should have to sacrifice something for vision and also if everybody had wards like they did before then kallari would be underpowered again cause her stealth would be useless. Before there were so many wards it was pretty hard to gank cause there was so much vision it was stupid.

[@real_ez8412]

Clayton Murrell nope good kalari know how to deal with ward's she was never under powered when there were ward's I reked with her and every popular mobs in existence you can buy ward's it should be limited 1 per person do to the size of monolith if they ever resize a bit then 2 will be justified but ward's need to be added back and they should not take a card slot

[@clayton3545]

Easay9 Games no there is a reason other mobas don't give u wards so easily as paragon once did, vision without some sort of sacrifice would make the game too easy like how carries didn't need a support cause they knew where the jungler was at all times and was not threatened in any way. Idk about u but before I always carried wards and if u even thought about taking my jungle u would be rotated on so quickly and u couldn't run cause we could see u the whole time. Yeah enemy team having vision of my whole jungle when ever they feel like it......... No thank u

[@thehutt4694]

Great job!! So glad your doing these videos. You are both by far my favorite paragon KZbinrs.

[@EthrFused]

Legacy should be a game mode

[@LOCO2009hec]

I love your guys dedication It seems you are the only ones who’s really into “paragon community needs” more than THE REAL PARAGON DEVS, and I’m not being negative, I’m just going to support you guys, HOW? well by continuing playing this game , by STOP being TOXIC in solo queue, and by commenting more often and help each other OUT, that’s it... I think that’s the best as a paragon community active player, can Do, I’m encouraging you guys to do the same. Keep it up 👍

[@joeg2759]

I think mirrored jungles should be a thing. Fangtooth should apply power like so 16-8-4-2(30) and 1k gold every kill. Gems should be bought in the store not set to the deck. Ranked play placement matches. Turrets should do percentage damage and shot tracking. Brawl game mode with Harvestors, set harvestors and defend them think domination COD and kills add 5pts. No cards just kits and gems.

[@ThomasDanny42]

My biggest issue with Paragon is after 2 years of playing I still have to relearn the game it's not small subtle changes it's things like giving every single character CC

[@joseriverajr8936]

I love this game and it is so hard to stay positive with so many server issues with player still getting kicked out of matches and hard lags after the update it's hard to enjoy the game because of these issues players that get disconnected and come back are so behind that they become targets and the same thing goes for the lags you become an easy target as well it is difficult to keep playing under these conditions and I honestly don't blame people for leaving we didn't have server bugs kicking player off and lagging constantly before and now it's continuous I don't understand why this far into the game this is now a huge problem I want this game to succeed but it feels like most of the time now we care more than they do

[@cesarsfalcao]

I remember seen Sparrow rendered in game the first time, or Gideon summon rocks from the sky, it blows my mind. Paragon still does.

[@e1xgaming481]

What's crazy is I see Smite ads before every Paragon video now...

[@Sunny_Punkin]

Paragon was my first Moba, totally dig it. Great intro game to the Genre. I never played legacy though :/

[@aznpanda510x]

AWWW that suck, those were the golden time for paragon. Nothing like fighting over prime and chasing the one with the orb prime.

[@jon7605]

Sunny Jack-O-Lantern you missed the real fun

[@aznpanda510x]

Sparrow was op as fuck! murdock doing 1.8k dmg MAN everyone was strong as fuck. Cooldown cards

[@Obeox]

you never played Legacy, I feel really bad for you bcuz Legacy is the real Paragon.

[@J-DawgTBH]

Really happy to see this video.

[@petitmarilyn]

you guys are awesome !!! thx a lot :) xx #SaveParagon

[@chuckbartowski6588]

I mostly like Paragon in it's current form. i think there needs to be more defined roles. And I don't know what the complaint about tower damage is. Tower damage in this game seems to be on par with other games like this. There probably should be some sort of ranked mode (even though it's not something I'm really interested in). They need to find a way to balance loot crates and keys as well. I have like 20 loot crates, but no keys. i would also love an area type mode like they have in Smite. They need to tone down cc a bit.

[@beanandcheee]

You guys teaming up is like getting the avengers together. #POSITIVEVIBES #SAVEPARAGON #BAKETHECAKE

[@SharkZxD]

nice video! i really enjoyed watching/ hearing to this... :) #SaveParagon

[@nynjagaming3000]

If you want to include more cards, nerf the cards by (random number) 10% each so you get higher options for decks, but don't get overpowered in the process. but in the same process, possibly take the attribute point cost of cards down on some higher level cards, or reduce cost of attribute points. otherwise the game might not last for the 4th card to make too ton a difference. otherwise, I agree with everything. the decks are definitely "do or die" decks, with very little room for extra options. I still have good hopes for this game tho. glad to see multiple streamers coming together for this as well. thanks guys

[@breezyGQ]

if they would just somehow figure out a way to mix the old card system with the new card system then I believe this game can still live on. time to go to work Epic!

[@aznpanda510x]

I played the close alpha.... " Wow this game is great, Gonna invest in this game and buy a master found." Release to the public....... New map.... " WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I DIDN'T INVEST IN THIS."

[@SuperBuggy86]

they should add an auto equip system for new player as smite does, of course in the tutorial should teach how does it work but even then doesnt completely understand it at first and whats better for the hero they choose. I know because i manage to get some friends into paragon and after i explain them how does card/gem system work they enjoy it little bit more and started to made build, try new stuff

[@XtremeWipeout]

I love how much effort you guys are putting in to save paragon and help it improve, im usually optimistic and positive, but i cant help but have this horrible feeling that development will stop for fortnite! Which i think its so stupid considering they could just fix the bugs and use fortnite to promote it! Really hope it all works out for the best! Great work to both of you and keep it up 😊 #paragonsaviors

[@davidmorales7371]

SurfLifeSanch it's makes no sense. Why are they stopping or pulling from the paragon team to work on an already incredibly successful game. Fortnite is in a good spot, apparently. So why not do the opposite and try to focus more on paragon now that fortnite is in a spot where it can easily be maintained and progress

[@XtremeWipeout]

David Morales exactly how i feel, They're bringing out new stuff way too often for fortnite, its going to die out in 6 months, keep going with paragon and use fortnite to grow it! Paragon has more longevity than fortnite easy, dont get why they dont see that! I understand they want to keep fortnite running well, but it a game that simple in comparison shouldnt be that hard

[@nickdaboii]

Stay optimistic!

[@babyspine]

yeah so legacy did its job and sold all of us on its original vision...That's honestly the truest thing I heard here about Legacy. It truly sold us all...and now we have monolith...nobody really asked for monolith, and nobody really wanted legacy to be scrapped. It was an internal choice and the community had no say so about the matter, even if they bought Paragon for Legacy.

[@throatmasseuse6718]

There are only two fixes needed. Severely punish toxicity like on Heroes Evolved and then attempt a fix at matchmaking. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know the internet will, but there has never been a matchmaking update to attempt a balance games. As much fun as it is to play with people who know how to exploit every meta and people who are playing their first game, both on the same team....I'd like to have time into game be a factor in matchmaking.

[@WaffleZapper]

Paragon is still missing a couple things that haven’t been in the game from the beginning. It’s missing variety and strategy. I always see people using the same cards and the same 15 heroes. Because of the 3 item meta, there isn’t much room for strategy through builds. The game is just too restrictive right now. A lot of the problems that this game has, comes down to the restrictions it puts on players. When you only have 3 items, and the majority of the heroes in the game are either brawlers or adc’s, there isn’t a lot of room for variety and strategy. The features this game NEEDS right now is a tweak the item system (maybe economy too) and an increase in the number of assassin type heroes (ex. Kallari) and utility type heroes (ex. Wraith but not that exterme). I would even recommend changing gems to items. These would of course call for a separate slot from the current items and a change in the current economy. I feel like making gold the main source of buying items, would make the game much more strategic and would do away with mindlessly buying attribute points in the late game. Also, I really do miss harvesters. ( just my opinion tho)

[@hatemelsewasy394]

Sylphin & BritikHD , Yaaaaaaaaay

[@miguelsiguenza7213]

We need more cards and tone down stuns, roots and stuns... maybe going to four cards isn’t a bad idea ... I always want to have blink but end game you lose a lot of damage 🤔... getting people to play is hard ... I honestly think the game needs an ARAM type game mode... he’ll throw a battle royal mode it’s trendy

[@aznpanda510x]

Bought a 30Day 2X Exp... only played 3 day and i still have 13day left........ Smartcast so broken, i use it on phase and my skill is gray out and i can't cast any skill unless i find someone. Plus i can't cancel it.

[@redbruhcolli]

Britik is back!? auto like

[@capsulacosmos7136]

#saveParagon. Dude I'm so inlove that I'm going to do a language of this game to all those who are paragon lovers.

[@chuchachuy9507]

I love paragon. but this is ridiculous. countless changes and matchmaking is still a joke. This game has turned into a one hit meta and why do towers do no damage? i think the most frustrating thing is the lack of actual support or addressing issues that the community wants to see changed since it is the community that keeps the game around. i really do love paragon but epic is turning into a meta company.

[@chuchachuy9507]

also been playing since early access but the last 2 weeks with dcs and this continued today cant finish a game without a dc and not my internet only paragon.

[@AnimeTenshou]

You are right... matchmaking destroys the experience for new and beginning players because they are matched against smurfs and sometimes even veterans!!! And get slammed then they leave hence why the player base has dwindled especially in the on-boarding area.

[@LOCO2009hec]

chucha chuy finally people that are talking the REAL PROBLEM!! and you know what? STILL paragon won’t make any profit! by saying this... I’m talking about “money” they want to get something in exchange even if a “FREE GAME” and if that is not going to happen 🙅 the game ITS OVA!

[@joeg2759]

Turrets do decent damage early game they throw pebbles mid game, i think they should do percentage damage. And damage tracking so you dont get poked savagely by 2 ranged heroes seeing as their range is from the rim to the tower itself.

[@chuchachuy9507]

i dont understand though it was perfect, they drew us in with a free game and then just gradually made a good game into shit. dont fix it if its not broken is one thing ive always gone by but the new epic (which is hardly the same epic that released gears of war) is more worried about being a meta game than something that was actually unique, fun, and had more potential than any other moba right now. please prove us wrong epic, theres still time.

[@juliancurry6489]

Im one of the players who comes and goes and i used to love paragon and still do. But did it get more difficult or something? I find myself feeling things out when i return with players vs bots matches, but for the past few months a lot of ppl(myself included) seem to be getting blown up by the A.I. Idk how but they always have an unreal level of attribute points with less farm and kills than me and ill have no deaths. Its odd out performing and getting overpowered. I know this is a factor with the player base that isnt being mentioned. When you are learning something...before you feel comfortable going into online vs, if u r getting stomped by comps time and time again(being new) wanting to stay is a challenge for some. I personally dont always have a problem with the rate that the bots get points but i feel it can be most daunting when ur matched against a decent carry. Idk i just find it hard to retain new players if training wheels mode is busted, makes them think they couldnt hang in casuals. Ive submitted many tickets and screenshots of this but never receive anything.

[@chuckbartowski6588]

Haha...you have to be very careful against veteran bots. They start off doing like three times more damage than you do. I play mostly against bots, and found in mirror matches in lanes that the bot uses about 1/3 the mana and does about 3 times the damage to start the game. As the game progresses it gets better and closer, but you have to be careful at the start. Introductory bots are extremely easy though and you don't have to play cards, gems or spend gold to beat them easily.

[@gman955]

Monolith was set up for nonstop team fights and ganks tbh while Legacy was all about good decision-making and objectives.

[@chuchachuy9507]

what also sucks is that i cant solo q without having one of my team mates quit cause they went 0-10 to the 6 pc players on the other team.

[@SkittleBuk1]

I think you're wrong about Legacy people being "stuck". It's not just nostalgia. Legacy's scope and verticality made for a much different game. Right or wrong, the argument for Legacy's return is not only grounded in nostalgia

[@TheEdgeOfBroken]

#SaveParagon #ParagonIsNotDead

[@SkittleBuk1]

I agree with the sentiments coming from both of you but most of this was quite vague and to that end, unnecessarily long lol

[@jclane6717]

I think they should add the 3v3 map that’s already in the game and also put and Aram like lol has, give us the tutorial map for pvp! It’s already in the game so it doesn’t make sense to me why they wouldn’t implement it. They also need to advertise the game in fortnite and other media’s. Throw an offer like play paragon for a week and get a free twinblast wraith or Murdock skin in fortnite. They also need to be more beginner friendly in the matchmaking and tutorials (good job on the tutorials you’re making btw) this game can definitely achieve success but we all need to act now and change it for the better. :)

[@throatmasseuse6718]

If they give up on Paragon I'm done with Epic. Not because they took my ball away, but because it shows how they can squander such a big opportunity. This game has the potential to big huge, like BritikHD said.

[@real_ez8412]

can we all agree that stuns need to be reverted to who had them before and need to be a skill shot??? way to many stuns and they 100% kill you every time

[@Ebackfive]

Bring back legacy bring back what you guys presented when it caught are attention you guys thought because you guys are paragon you guys could make any change even if it was to change the whole thought of the game it wouldn't kill the game well look were it's at now . None of your fans asked for this at all you guys made the switch on your own you guys should of made a pole with voting for a whole new game asking your fans what they would like I've missed LEGACY back when you guys took out that awesome thing we're when your Qing up you get to see everyone skins while looking for players or simply teaming up with friends you guys took out everything when I mean everything I mean everything that made this game fun the very old travel mode that would get you stuck if trying to run away how FUNnnnnnnn was thatttttttttt and you guys took it away the portal that acts as a bush how funnnnnn was that it was so cool the harvester how funnnn was thattttt the orb dunk how funnnnnn was thattttt funnnn funnn funnnnn now the game cause you guys sucked all the funnn out of this game now it's dieing and it's at the last of its days the game was way bigger then fornite wayyyyyyyyy bigger because it was a free Moba that was better then smite and becoming more and more popular everyday you guys had the ball and dropped it I've never seen a game fall this hard the only game I can thing of wasps PC game called RUNESCAPE it was the biggest game played through out the whole world it had the #1 spot and they changed the the game and they lost every one then they seen what they did then made a voting pole and the old fans blew the voting pole out the water and brought the old RUNESCAPE back that everyone loved it's not the biggest anymore but it's in better place then we're they was when they was

[@prycethebeast]

I feel people are talking too much about changes to the meta and gameplay mechanics like that's gonna draw people into the game. Some changes my bring BACK players, but not new ones, which is what Paragon needs. You guys are talking and usually only appealing to high level existing players. This is the wrong approach. What this game needs is content. It needs something to bring a casual fanbase in. It lacks depth outside of gameplay. I boot the game up and have 1 of 2 options. Games with bots or games with humans. Sure, I could make a deck or open chests, but that's only fun for so long. I need more game modes. And I'm not talking just about ranked. We need 1v1 duels. 2v2 3v3 game modes that last 10-15 minutes. Maybe a PvE "Smite Adventures" type mode. More and deeper lore about more than just the characters and their homelands. Paragon needs life. I've introduced paragon to more than 20 of my friends. Out of all of those, 1 of them still plays it consistently. The other 19 or so all have the same questions "what else is there to do?". Even Overwatch got boring to me, I only came back after they added the arcade and custom game modes. Fortnite is only gonna see constant growth if they continue building on the game, making a more diverse and varied game that players of all kinds can play. Look at Smites success. You can't even play ranked until you're level 30(I believe) and that's FINE because there are so many other game modes as well as MOTD modes and Adventures being added monthly. In ending, Paragon needs diversity in game modes as well as resources for the interested to dive deeper. Right now we don't have that. Instead we have monolith which is beautiful and NO OTHER assets outside of the tutorial map(which is arguably just as beautiful) that no one gets to see outside of the one time they do the tutorial. Give us game modes, give us ranked, give us lore, give us a GAME. Not a game mode. This is truly what I believe will breathe life in the game and bring us back closer to a golden era.

[@TheKevinMcFarland]

Sylphin, you have a great theme to your channel and you are a great analyst. I really do like you and your videos. But on live recordings you are hard to listen to; "so, like... Uhhhh... .yeah...and it's like, uhhh, it's like......so yeah"

[@trickz_ez2757]

It’s gone, get tf over it.

[@narutofroever]

#Paragondies2018 #Epicneverlistenedtofans #Letitgo

[@AronGari]

Why are so many of the Paragon video producers tying "bring back Legacy" to people wanting the game pacing, and balance of pre V35? I have not seen a SINGLE person asking for the pre V35 tank meta back, or the absurd Crit Murdck. People want the card system, Hero balance, movespeed, and general game pasing we have now, but on the Legacy map. Larger maps do not directly correlate to longer match times, LoL has a 20% larger map than Monolith with game times ranging from 20-35 min. The problem with Legacy in terms of game time was not map size (jump pad, or portals could have been), but the ability to take a meaningful objective from the enemy team after a team fight. Acting like people want to revert everything Monolith has done right for the sake of "bring back Legacy", or nostalgia over simplifies the debate, and misrepresents want people are actually asking for.

[@AronGari]

I would like to add Monolith is not trash, and it does have a place in Paragon; though I feel the Jungle layout, and graphical design are quite lacking compared to Legacy ATM. The arguments made against Legacy in this video are not a vary genuine representation of the debate however.

[@LOCO2009hec]

Aron Gari very interesting your points but matter fact it is just 61 comments with 1k views in this channel, STILL you won’t make a profit with this amount of people that are “playing” this game, forget about the gameplay atm, how about SOLO QUEUE toxicity for NEW PLAYERS.... that’s it! Simple as that. It is just a matter of time....#RipParagon 😭 P:S I’m not a hater I think I love this game so much and I’m sad about all this Drama 😭

[@vedantleva2508]

Aron Gari people DO NOT want the current pacing of the game and hero “balance” that you claim there is. Heroes are far from balanced.

[@vedantleva2508]

Aron Gari they want the old card system without the tank meta and damage/crit/lifesteal being overused

[@TheOneNaffy]

I just started to play a two days ego ... can someone tell me whats the problem ? Is the game dying ?

[@iosonoi.7132]

Nafgahrsa . As now it is officially dead. It will be canceled in april 26th. With every major change they make to paragon Epic loses players. Now with their other game Fortnite, they are making great money and will no longer support paragon.

[@mrspams3489]

I have some old clips of paragon gameplay on a playlist on my channel if any one cares 😎

[@gothmog7629]

#BAKETHECAKE

[@theak-74-36]

Bring back the old card system

[@Molochkai]

im getting a bit tired of all this "POSITIVITY AND OPTIMISM " commenting. It is a pshycological FACT that people who act like that or the most unhappy people. Simply because in reality you will experience more disappointments then other people who have a realistic cynicism in life who are PREPARED for disappointments.

[@Sylphin]

Incorrect.

[@clutchmasterian7091]

new card system kinda pushed me out tbh

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

1 - Ranked 2 - Class Identity needs to be brought back , having supports playing as carrys and vica versa is shite

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

Just the fact that a lot of these types of videos are coming out makes me worry even more for the game

[@iosonoi.7132]

JWA79 it is officially dead. It will be canceled on april 26th

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

so i was right , as if you look the comment was made before the announcement :)

[@pedroandrade3725]

You should make a video with RGSACE too.

[@funnyguy9711]

If they can't fix disconnects just cancel the game.

[@monochromatic3247]

Stop associating Legacy with tank meta and broken heroes and Monolith with reworked kits and balanced gameplay. FFS, compare the MAPS themselves. Compare a balanced-gameplay Legacy with a balanced gameplay Monolith. Stop comparing apples to oranges.

[@chuchachuy9507]

#saveparagon

[@MechApe]

I just want a better frkn jungle. This jungle is so dang boring. Put better enphasis on the vertically of the map.

[@SoCheese]

They need legacy

[@thelaw557]

Britik: no one cares about eloAlso Britik: I got to diamond long before RGSACE, and he had to stack to do it.

[@BritikHD]

Just stating facts, B

[@dmtmd]

Rip

[@AKBAAR_]

Bring Back Legacy

[@ahmadalhussain7648]

is this a real conversation or its robots talk

[@Lucien135]

Lol

[@aperal732]

Is it so hard to bring the old card system and keep everything else!!... the game looks flawless. To me this card system destroy the game.. everything else im ok with