Real Road Test: 1965 Singer Vogue Series III - Rootes semi-luxury!

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@edwinblank58
@edwinblank58 3 жыл бұрын
All cars had a soul in those days. You could spot one from miles away.
@natorusemporium645
@natorusemporium645 2 жыл бұрын
Now only a few newer cars do
@grievuspwn4g3
@grievuspwn4g3 Жыл бұрын
​@@natorusemporium645judging by the reaction to ULEZ, none since 2005.
@darrylgilbert2587
@darrylgilbert2587 3 жыл бұрын
Had these in Australia under the Humber badge were considered a bit up market
@satanslittlehelper3
@satanslittlehelper3 3 жыл бұрын
Australian Humber Vogue benefited from Twin Carburettors, Disk Brakes and Electronic Overdrive - Managed to beat a Citroen DS for a Class Division Win at Mt Panorama Bathurst
@philtowle4683
@philtowle4683 3 жыл бұрын
I used to laugh at people who kept cars like this going, but I get it now I am older. Takes a special kind of person that I think you grow to become.
@hieronymusbosch9421
@hieronymusbosch9421 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was a Vogue back in the mid 80s. Great car - went everywhere in it.
@glenrea
@glenrea 3 жыл бұрын
There's something about Rootes engines; they all have a nice rorty sound, the 1725 was a great engine, especially in Holbay tune. Even the Avenger you drove in NZ sounded great. More Rootes please Mr Hubnut!
@MrG61-u9k
@MrG61-u9k 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a bit of Hitchin/Letchworth, if I knew you were in town I'd have bought you a cake 😁 We had a Gazelle back in the day.
@cambridgemart2075
@cambridgemart2075 3 жыл бұрын
At least he didn't miss the opportunity to vist the world's first roundabout whilst he was in LGC!
@rogbrown1458
@rogbrown1458 3 жыл бұрын
@@cambridgemart2075 my cousin lived in croft lane Letchworth. Great place. Rog
@trevatkin4869
@trevatkin4869 3 жыл бұрын
My headmaster at primary school had one of these! Shout out Mr Kirman if you're still alive. For some reason it reminds me of my dads Hillman Minx that he had when I was a kid.
@firsteerr
@firsteerr 3 жыл бұрын
my dad had the humber sceptre for a while in the mid seventies , lovely car
@mrgrumpy5116
@mrgrumpy5116 3 жыл бұрын
they were quite nice, I was selling these in 1965, and they were a bit of a luxury car, remember this was 1965
@MrSwaggie1
@MrSwaggie1 Жыл бұрын
My father had one of these although in Australia it was called a Humber Vogue Sport. The Humber part of the name relates to the Humber Super Snipe and the headlights and grill looked similar. Inside was real wood trim and I think the gear stick was in a console. I remember my father telling me that the front track was wider than the rear so it would corner better. Our family of 5, 2 adults and 3 children would cram into it and drive from Melbourne to Brisbane for our holidays with the rellies. He had this car for a while and in that time I bought a second hand Mazda RX2 which was faster than his so not to be outdone he traded it on a Chrysler Valiant 770 2 door with 318 v8. Thanks for the memories.
@MajorKlanga
@MajorKlanga 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way the wood on the dashboard curves round to meet the door caps. An unusual detail in the 60's.
@H4lminator
@H4lminator 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and classy dashboard. Very minimalistic. Nice sounding engine too.
@frothe42
@frothe42 3 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely glorious vehicle! I like everything about it. Another excellent review!
@tripsadelica
@tripsadelica 3 жыл бұрын
He always provides fascinating, yet simple reviews that are informative and yet neutral, letting the viewer make up their own minds. That's the reason I subscribed to his channel. As to the Rootes cars, well they were well-built and sprightly things. I live in Australia and my dad bought a '65 Hillman after deciding to off-load his old humpy Vanguard. It was a great car...ferried us everywhere BUT it had what my dad called "the British engine problem" which was that every thirty thousand miles you had to do a valve grind. The only reason dad surrendered the Hillman was because someone stole it and wrote it off. He then went out and bought a '63 Holden station wagon and, imho, it was the best car he ever owned. He put 200,000 miles on the thing and it never had its head off, didn't burn oil (but leaked a little from the rear engine seal) and all he had to change were the normal wear and tear items. In 1970 he decided he wanted to move upmarket so he traded the '63 for a brand new HT Holden Premier which was also a great car. And the '63? Well a house painter bought it for his work car and he put another 80,000 miles on the thing before it developed a cracked block.
@frothe42
@frothe42 3 жыл бұрын
@@tripsadelica There are many reasons why I watch HubNut, one being with some similar vehicles, the next the really unique that never made it to the US. I think Ian might have done a review on a Nissan Figaro two years ago, because of him, and others, one showed up at a local car meet-up! Another is the Triumph Stag; I used to see it until this year, in town, usually at the local garage, where I took this photo which is my thumbnail! And he used to be editor at a few classic magazines. I subscribe to channels like HubNut for the reasons you listed as well as my own, and it is quite enjoyable!
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 3 жыл бұрын
I've had several Rootes Group cars, and they have all been lovely. Strangely, they have all been Singers, too: a Series IIIA Gazelle estate, an Arrow Vogue estate, and two Chamois. both estates had overdrive and they were all quite happy at Motorway speeds. I would be very happy to repeat the experience.
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
Any Rootes car was built and engineered better than anything wearing a BMC badge.
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
@Exlord Lucan it would have been a lot better if it was not rushed and built in a new plant by mostly unskilled workers. Govt's always ruin things when they get involved.
@sobriology4226
@sobriology4226 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 65estate for sale.
@Jaxs2
@Jaxs2 3 жыл бұрын
A car very much of the era it just looks upright and proper nice family car of the day in my opinion ,......nice to see Ian 👍
@TheHorsebox2
@TheHorsebox2 3 жыл бұрын
Restoring an Audax at the moment. This was a treat. Love the green on green. Thank you, sir.
@richardhoneybun5509
@richardhoneybun5509 3 жыл бұрын
My Uncle had one of these in the late 60s think it's the nicest looking of all the variants 😁
@garykendall8646
@garykendall8646 3 жыл бұрын
I bought new as an export model a 1965 Singer Vogue estate. Lasted me for 16 years, probably because I had it undersealed as part of the factory construction. I also had factory option of overdrive on 3rd and top, which made it very easy to drive, especially on overtaking runs. I also bought as part of the original order a full workshop manual and did all my own maintenance.
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 3 жыл бұрын
Top video once again Mr. Hubnut. Was called Humber Vogue in Australia. We actually had a model called the ‘Sport’ which had a 1750cc engine. A friend has one he is rightly very proud of.
@user-s1o3nr532
@user-s1o3nr532 3 жыл бұрын
We had the Humber Sceptre when I was I child - beautiful car; the wraparound rear window as you say. No wood, but leather throughout and a dashboard full of dials and switches that wouldn't have disgraced the cockpit of a jet aircraft. Yes, it was originally designed to be a Sunbeam Rapier apparently, but sold as the Humber Sceptre.
@robredz
@robredz 3 жыл бұрын
There was an Arrow based fastback Rapier and Alpine, we had a Mk IV Rapier bought cheap years ago, it had overdrive on 3rd and top, it was like a 6 speed gearbox and great fun.
@charliemansonUK
@charliemansonUK 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Singer Vogue ❤ I remember an elderly neighbour having one along with a Hilman Husky estate for moving her dogs around in. I used to love going out in both but the Singer was her "special" car for days out. Peace Charlie 🇬🇧
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
The little warning light lenses can be moved up and down. One position makes it brighter and the other dimmer.
@HubNut
@HubNut 3 жыл бұрын
That's superb.
@HowardLeVert
@HowardLeVert 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating - I can remember pulling those out of dumped Rootes cars in the mid-70s as a kid, but never thought to see if they moved!
@andrewsmactips
@andrewsmactips 3 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. I was going to say the exact same thing. Ah, childhood memories.
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
@@HowardLeVert theres a little rib across the lens that allows you to move it up and down. I used to play with the ones in my Dads Singer Vogue estate all the time.
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
@@HubNut please see if you can find any of these three cars to review. An Arrow body Humber Sceptre, a Honda Quintet and a Mitsubishi Celeste.
@jaxandmore440
@jaxandmore440 3 жыл бұрын
Handsome little car and that retro green is gorgeous. I'd have a lot of fun tooling around in it.
@mr_pastry
@mr_pastry 3 жыл бұрын
My Mum said that my Grandad had one of these and they felt like the poshest people on their estate in Willenhall
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 3 жыл бұрын
They could definitely look down their noses at those commoners in their Hillmans. 😁
@badatfootball4698
@badatfootball4698 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! My dad had an A reg automatic Singer Vogue in blue. We drove all the way from London to Cornwall in summer 1970 collecting the Esso World Cup football coins as we went. Great holiday and fond memories.
@iatsd
@iatsd 3 жыл бұрын
I remember going on a trip down the South Island in my brother's Singer Vogue Estate in the 1980's. It has seen better days; the floor pan in the passenger side footwell had some small holes due to rust and you could see the road through it. Driving along back road NZ forestry tracks at 50-60 mph, coming over crests and hitting possums, with bits of possum spraying into the cabin as a result. Very comfy car over long distances and handled the forestry roads really well. Fantastically enjoyable trip actually.
@satanslittlehelper3
@satanslittlehelper3 3 жыл бұрын
Those Carnivorous Possums in New Zealand are cross bred with Drop Bears
@chrisbailey1966
@chrisbailey1966 3 жыл бұрын
I think 'Car Driving in 2 Weeks' must have been popular as my dad had a copy. I knew it straight away from the cover.
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great car like something from a 1960s Miss Marple movie, please more Rootes cars, Sunbeam V8, Super Snipe and Hillmann Imp :-)
@craig_chaznibond452
@craig_chaznibond452 3 жыл бұрын
Those warning lights roll to give two levels of illumination ! Don’t forget my Alpine is still ready for your test drive Ian!
@HubNut
@HubNut 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. May have got lost in email account changes. If you haven't mailed ian@hubnut.org in the past two months, please do so again.
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot 3 жыл бұрын
@@HubNut I was about to say when the tab is down its for night to give less dazzle, I had a 1966 Humber Sceptre MK II with the same feature
@daviemaclean61
@daviemaclean61 3 жыл бұрын
My mother had a Humber Sceptre of this vintage (when it wasn't vintage, just old!). The main thing I remember about it was the amount of primary school children that could fit un-seatbelted in the back seat! ;-)
@mpersad
@mpersad 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Maidstone, where Rootes had their largest showroom, in the 70s there were many, many Rootes vehicles around, including my Dad who had a Singer Gazelle for a few years. I agree that Rootes cars need more recognition and love! Great video.
@silvereith
@silvereith 3 жыл бұрын
The original carburettor on the alloy head Vogue, Rapier, Sceptre and 1592 Alpine was the Solex 32 PAIA. It was a twin choke with vacuum operated secondary choke. The best thing about it was that it was quite light. You could throw it a long way. The Weber 28/36 DCD from a Cortina GT was a straight substitution fit and transformed the running. Nice cars the alloy head Rootes range, The iron head cars were glacial in comparison.
@philiplindley7384
@philiplindley7384 3 жыл бұрын
Always love a hooded headlight; little touch of Americana. Hooded headlights are my Pantograph Wipers.
@keddw
@keddw 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first car I remember. My Father had one in the mid 60's. It was in the same colour as the one in the review. I have a vague recollection of the engine not starting, but luckily it came with a crank handle that you could put in the front and manually turn the engine over when things got desperate. That rolling sensation and the airy light feeling were definitely the positives of being in a Singer Vogue as a 4 year old
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 3 жыл бұрын
To confuse things more, in Australia these were badged as the Humber Vouge and for a short time Vouge Sports performance version. The Humber badge may have helped justify the premium price to Australian buyers. Sold enough to remember them and school yard discussions as to why they were worth the money. May have been more up spec than the Singer version. In a similar way we did not have a Singer Gazelle but late in the piece a Hillman Gazelle. Sunbeams also rare in Australia as time went on. Rootes Australia seemed wanting to concentrate on just the popular, for a while, Hillman and Humber brands.
@EVISEH
@EVISEH 3 жыл бұрын
In 1962 [I think it was] Chysler acquired the Rootes Group along with all of its overseas operations. Rootes cars were sent out to Chrysler Australia in CKD form and assembled at its Port Melbourne factory. That meant Chrysler's Australian arm was not only building/ assembling/ selling its own 6 cylinder Valiant but the Hillman Minx, the Super Minx, the Imp, the big Super Snipe and the Vogue along with 4 and 6 cylinder Simcas from France [ Chrysler also owned Simca] Inevitably Chrysler Australia had to rationalise its product range resulting in the Simcas being axed and the Rootes offerings being restricted to Hillman and Humbers. The Hillman Gazelle was an amalgamation of Hillman bits, the body was the Audax body, the dash and instrumentation came from the Super Minx and the engine was the twin carbie Alloy headed motor from the Rapier specially imported. The Vogue Sports came before the Gazelle and had the Rapier motor, it was for the Vogue Sports that the Rapier motor had originally been brought in and the Gazelle came about because Chrysler Australia needed to use up its stocks of the Rapier motor. The Vogue Sports carried a higher price tag than the standard Vogue and did not sell in the numbers expected by Chrysler Australia.
@steved3702
@steved3702 3 жыл бұрын
@@EVISEH "Chrysler Rootes Australia", as the receptionist had to answer the phone.
@satanslittlehelper3
@satanslittlehelper3 3 жыл бұрын
@@EVISEH Australian Humber Vogue benefited from Twin Carburettors, Disk Brakes and Electronic Overdrive - Managed to beat a Citroen DS for a Class Division Win at Mt Panorama Bathurst
@EVISEH
@EVISEH 3 жыл бұрын
@@satanslittlehelper3 That would have been quite an achievement, the Vogues were quite heavy in weight and only had a 1.6 motor to lug around that weight. I had a Series 2 Vogue with the iron head motor. Took ages to get to 60mph but once there would happily cruise there all day.
@88GTi
@88GTi 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a bit choked up watching this...So many fond memories have just overwhelmed me. Back in the early 80's my Grandfather was still driving his 'owned from new' 1966 Sunbeam Rapier with overdrive, which fascinated me! It was activated by a stalk on the steering column. My tiny child mind had never seen another car with this super power. At the same time a good family friend was driving a freshly restored Hillman Minx, his Dad had a beautiful mint condition 2 tone pearl grey and burgundy Singer Vogue called 'Pearl' Thanks to Elkie Brooks 1977 hit...'Pearls a Singer' Happy times...Awesome cars! Well worth burning the back of your legs on the vinyl seats on a hot summers day, when forced to wear shorts...haha!!!
@oldclassiccarUK
@oldclassiccarUK 3 жыл бұрын
Always liked the look of Rootes cars from the 50s/60s, the interiors always strike me as being more interesting than those in rival BMC products too 👍
@mrb6094
@mrb6094 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wallpapering all day, so a Hubnut video has definitely cheered me up :)
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser 3 жыл бұрын
A proper car, mechanical noise that tells you exactly what it's doing. As an aside, just checked out Sunbeam Alpine prices, blimey.
@davidmg1925
@davidmg1925 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@Dan_druft
@Dan_druft 3 жыл бұрын
My dear old dad had one of these in the 60's as one of his company cars. It was a silver estate model and I remember the day he bought it home and it had that lovely new car smell and thanks for reminding me about those green and blue warning lights that you could move up and down to make brighter or darker. Happy days.
@groovedodger
@groovedodger 3 жыл бұрын
Those Solex carbs had a problem with petrol leaks on a gasket thats probably why its swapped.
@benvenis9758
@benvenis9758 3 жыл бұрын
That they do, I’ve had a problem with mine on my singer gazelle around the throttle spindle and have just upgraded to a Weber since had no issues
@AndyB59
@AndyB59 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad picked me up from school in his new Arrow Singer Vogue . I was so excited! It looked fantastic in gold with those great rectangular headlights and the interior was properly luxurious (this was 1968,remember). I loved the little sliding covers over the warning lights so you weren't distracted at night ( I was only 8!) . Loved that car.
@emmajacobs5575
@emmajacobs5575 3 жыл бұрын
That sluggish starter motor sound reminded me of getting a lift to school in a friend’s parents’ Super Minx, though that usually had a knackered battery and it was always a gamble on whether it could be bump started before we ran out of hill!
@musicandfilms9956
@musicandfilms9956 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video of the model I spent my early childhood travelling in during the late 1960s. CPT521B, I've never forgotten.
@derektaylor6713
@derektaylor6713 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. From what I remember the very final Vogues, as with the Minx and Gazelles (before all became Arrow cars) had the 1725 cc engines which were apparently as far as they could go without boring through the engine block. I think it started as a 1390 cc engine, although (I think) they had become 5 bearing instead of 3 bearing engines and eventually some had alloy heads and even twin carbs. The most powerful was of course the Sunbeam Rapier H120, a far cry from the humble beginnings of the small, cuddly little Hillman Husky of 1957. What Rootes needed, to keep up with the opposition were new, more modern engines, which oddly enough, the Hillman Imp came with; all alloy, overhead camshaft which loved revving. Apparently the original Imps (with only 800cc engines) being tested were so fast they had to be de-tuned or they'd have have out performed bigger more luxurious cars on offer, which at the time would never have done. Happy Days.
@antwit
@antwit 2 жыл бұрын
Blast from the past for me. My grandad had one this colour and took us kids many miles in it. I remember the sticky vinyl! I think in summer we took a towel to sit on. And it was big excitement if we hit 70 mph down hill on the newly opened M4. Happy days. He loved it and so did we, but living near the seaside the salt air accelerated the rusting and it lasted him less than 10 years.
@benvenis9758
@benvenis9758 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Reminds me of my 1964 singer Gazelle, albeit the vogue is in much better shape...
@SpiritEngine
@SpiritEngine 3 жыл бұрын
This Gazelle sounds familiar 😉
@ianbird4737
@ianbird4737 3 жыл бұрын
Now this takes me back to when I were a lad. My father replaced his Austin A35 (cream bodywork, red leather bench seats, column gear change) with a Singer Gazelle in 1966. He liked it so much (particularly its 1725cc engine) that he replaced with another one three years later. When he came to replace that one he was bitterly disappointed to be told that "They don't make them any more, sir." The search for a suitable replacement was the longest that I can recall. He eventually settled on a Simca 1501, a lovely, roomy car but with bodywork no thicker than cigarette paper.
@jdtseventyfour
@jdtseventyfour Жыл бұрын
The first time I ever came across the Singer name was when I was 16 as a college friend had an early Vogue (with the amazing curved glass rear window :-) ) that he shared with his Dad. I was well impressed with it and over the following years learned about so many other cars that had disappeared from the roads that were built in the glory days of the British motor industry. As always a very detialed and interesting video celebrating a great car
@christianronn5301
@christianronn5301 3 жыл бұрын
Around the three minute mark when you moved the camera around I instantly thought Hillman Imp. Great to finally see a Rootes car here. Imp next?
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad was Rootes. He had an old Minx. We had a newer Minx in the early 1970s- it was a stop gap after the Sunbeam Rapier with overdrive that Dad loved. We got it shortened in Bridgwater - on our way to a family holiday at Butlins, Minehead. Still drove it home but that was its last journey. Someone ran into the back of us at speed and pushed us in to the back of the car in front that had also stopped. The other car sped past us - as if the 2 had been racing. After that 2nd Minx, he got the chance to have a Ford Rep's Granada Mk1 - it was down hill all the way after that one ! It had a boil-up on the motorway resulting in a cracked cylinder head + other issues.
@kimkiriniki9433
@kimkiriniki9433 3 жыл бұрын
Many years ago all of our family cars were from the Rootes Group. Humber Sceptre, Sunbeam Rapier, Singer Vogue estate, Sunbeam Alpine. All very similar mechanically, but so individual in terms of trim and styling. Clever stuff really. Sceptre was always our favourite, it was relatively luxurious and had the Laycock de Normanville overdrive unit..oh that deliciously delicate stalk on the steering column!
@colingill31
@colingill31 3 жыл бұрын
I had one! The best £35 pound I ever spent. Did have a bit of tin work but I love the styling both inand out . Now better watch the vid........
@newuk26
@newuk26 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact for those that are interested. Coventry City FC were founded as Singers FC. They were the works football team. Of course they only made bicycles at that point.
@andrewentwistle515
@andrewentwistle515 3 жыл бұрын
It is nice to see Ian taking out a car that was built in Britain and has been restored very well. I must admit that I did enjoy going along for the ride & listening to the history of the company.
@nearlythere9443
@nearlythere9443 3 жыл бұрын
That engine has an alloy rocker cover. If my memory serves me right, the alloy rocker cover was on the 1725. The 1500cc engine had a pressed steel one.
@cliveruffle6016
@cliveruffle6016 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for this trip down memory lane! My father had a Vogue, the wrap-around rear window variety. He used it for his daily commute from Durham to Sunderland, and we had long family trips down to Devon for our summer holidays (12 hour journeys in the 1960s). I have many fond memories of his Vogue, the strip speedo being one of the strongest. Also, memories of listening to "Sing Something Simple" on the radio while I lay on the rear parcel shelf as we headed home from a day out. Very much a forgotten, yet special motor.
@stevechilde2319
@stevechilde2319 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had one just like this, even the same colour, Rootes Silver Moss, on a C-plate. He told me it was very economical. The video really brought back memories such as the fur trim round the doors and the linear speedometer. I really liked this car when I was about 5 years old, still do. His definitely had round mirrors at the front of each wing mounted on spring bases so they would not break but go back if hit by something. They were out of reach and I remember him sitting in the car while his dad adjusted the mirror for him. I don't expect you could see much with them right down the front. Maybe on your test car they went in the resto. There was also a telescopic aerial on the top of the wing, which you could reach to put up/down even when driving! We were on holiday in it once when a wasp got in the car so I got out of the back window (it was stationary!). You couldn't do that with a modern car!
@pqsaservices
@pqsaservices 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a Singer Gazelle estate in the mid-60s. I remember being taken in it overnight from Nottingham, via Kettering, to collect my Grandma at around mid-night, and then on through Northampton all the way to Southhampton and on the ferry over to the Isle of White! My baby brother was in his carry-cot wedged up against the back of the back seat in the boot! All the luggage was on the roofrack! We were coming around a bend in Northampton and found red traffic lights against us and my Dad stopped so quickly that the roofrack carried on, bounced off the bonnet and landed in the road in front of us! Being a 3yr old and asleep I was startled awake by the noise and apparently cried for the next hour or so, until my Dad told me I would have to walk the rest of the way to the Isle of White if I didn't stop crying!! That is my first 'car memory'! After the Gazelle my Dad got a Sunbeam Rapier, with the 1750cc engine and for another holiday, in 1969, we towed a caravan, a Sprite Major 4, to the Gower peninsula in South Wales with that. This became my Mum's daily driver in 1970 when my Dad got his first 'Firms Car' a gold MkIV Zodiac. She used the Rapier until around 73 when they replaced it with a bright red Mini 850, a real downgrade, in my youngish opinion. Thanks HubNut for bringing back some lovely memories of my childhood! Keep up the good work! Jonty RP.
@ianchambers2731
@ianchambers2731 3 жыл бұрын
Took my driving test in Letchworth! Many a dinky roundabout
@melvynwoodman5787
@melvynwoodman5787 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to disappoint you but even the Humber sceptre only had vinyl seats. I remember the sweaty sensations from my teenage years in my parents car.
@GenialHarryGrout
@GenialHarryGrout 3 жыл бұрын
I remember these from my childhood. Nice styling and a lovely car
@adamknopp6631
@adamknopp6631 3 жыл бұрын
Sunbeam Holbay Rapier Fastback 1725cc with overdrive I had a white one106hp with an orange stripe and twin carbs with Rostyle wheels and vinyl seats! 👍
@robertlambert8719
@robertlambert8719 3 жыл бұрын
Memories...! My dear old Dad loved Rootes Group cars. His favourite was an Arrow Sunbeam Vogue Estate. We loved this car, wooden dashboard etc. Seems the Sunbeam was for export, so how it was sold here is a mystery. How I remember vinyl seats, wearing shorts and seeming to leave your skin behind when exiting the car! Happy times. More Rootes Group please!
@russcattell955i
@russcattell955i 3 жыл бұрын
In the 70's we had a Commer PB van to transport our dirt bikes to the moors. The woeful 1500 3 bearing crank motor got quite knocky. We bought from a scrapyard a 1725 5 bearing car motor, installed over a weekend, it transformed the van. With the short van gearing and Town & country tyres it would wheel spin everywhere in the wet when provoked. Rewind to the 60's when I was about 10-11, I used to drive my fathers PB pickup around the docks of Plymouth of a saturday afternoon as there was no one else there. Had a few moments when the narrow front track axle got me stuck on the rail lines, I had to man (boy) handle it on to my desired course back to my dad.
@Canalsman
@Canalsman 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic response to this video, shows there's more interest in the Rootes group cars than you might imagine. My first experience was being driven to school by a friend's father in his brand new Minx. It still had the plastic covers over the vinyl seats. They were quite a hard plastic and it was not uncommon for owners not to remove them till they disintegrated. Imagine how sweaty that was! This Vogue looks fabulous, great styling. My earliest cars were from the Rootes /Chrysler stable. An Imp Van, great fun and ideal for camping trips with your mates, followed by a Hunter GT with overdrive that I took to South Africa. It was an export model so unlike the domestic car it was fitted with opening front quarterlights. This car was fantastic, coping very well with very rough dirt roads, and comfortable enough to drive 700 miles in a day across the country. Really strong and durable. My last encounter was with a beautiful pale green Rapier fastback. Very pretty and I adored it. I was however seduced by an MGC GT so it was a short relationship. I hope you can find some stablemates to film ...
@jamesdonald7485
@jamesdonald7485 Жыл бұрын
I owned one of these in NZ Bought it new and I still think about that car with great affection. Mine had 9the 1725 cc engine. Now living in Colombia with a W124 300E Mercedes.
@Velocipedium
@Velocipedium 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely car. I’m with you on the rooflines. The later cars looked like they had two different designers. Keep champining the Rootes cars.
@wetjon
@wetjon 3 жыл бұрын
Ah.. This is great Ian.. My Uncle owned one of these.. JUK 744D.. so one of the very last in production. I have great memories of weekend trips with my Mother and 2 Aunts... He kept it immaculate until the day he sold it.. It's probably responsible for my years of my love of 'ordinary / extraordinary' car ownership.. All the best mate.. Jon
@terryperring104
@terryperring104 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had one for 8 years and we loved it.
@philtaylor9038
@philtaylor9038 3 жыл бұрын
I remember these and the Humber as my friends' dad use to repair them in his retirement years use to love seating in the rear seat so comfortable for an 11year old boy.
@stepheng8779
@stepheng8779 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's lovely. My dad was a Rootes car man (after a fall out with the local ford garage) spent my childhood in them. Handbrake on the right hand side, all comes flooding back 😂 more please Ian if poss & thanks 👍
@graemew7001
@graemew7001 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a bottle green Gazelle in the early 70's with that engine and it was one of my first car memories at 4/5 years old. This Vogue looks like a lovely car that would be great to own.
@geoffbaker4452
@geoffbaker4452 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a D plate(? 1966) Super Minx Estate, 1725 cc. It replaced his Austin Cambridge estate. In turn, the Super Minx was replaced by the first in a number of Maxis he owned.
@stuartainsworth3461
@stuartainsworth3461 3 жыл бұрын
Dad had a Cambridge, I had a 1725 Super Minx, I loved em both ❤️❤️
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 жыл бұрын
It's a lovely looking car and I especially like the interior as well. That green fur around the doors is a nice touch.
@firsteerr
@firsteerr 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair hubster , the peddles were designed with winkle pickers in mind not hiking boots !! also imagine seeing that beauty coming towards you on the road , what kind of smile does it put on faces ???
@UnluckyLunkhead
@UnluckyLunkhead 3 жыл бұрын
The estate version of this was the car I learned to drive in (my dad's car). By the time it was replaced in about 1975, much of the bodywork had been replaced by fibreglass. No synchro on 1st gear meant either coming to a complete stop when going slowly uphill in traffic or hearing a terrible graunching noise. A starter handle kept inside the boot for those days when the battery and starter motor combo failed to live up to expectations. In pre-motorway years nobody ever cruised at 70mph and this was a good solid car, went on forever.
@peregrinemccauley7819
@peregrinemccauley7819 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic restoration job . The paint and it's colour, coexist nicely with it's sumptuous chrome surrounds . Real noice .
@seancooke4127
@seancooke4127 3 жыл бұрын
Happy memories. Never been in a Super Minx Vogue but my Dad had a Green Arrows Singer Vogue. He had a white Arrows Hillman Minx but the neighbour lady drove me to school in a Metallic Green Super Minx Estate, which I knew was older but looked classier with Metallic paint which few cars had in 1972. Dad ordered a Peugeot 504 Family Estate In 1975 but delivery was taking so long that he was one day away from finalising the deal on a 1975 Humber Sceptre Estate in Metallic Green when the 504 turned up. Yes the 504 was Metallic Green. Every one of them had vinyl seats. Possibly the Sceptre would have been leather, never found out. We were Rootes people.
@CornishMotorcycleDiaries
@CornishMotorcycleDiaries 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had the Humber Sceptre and I still remember sitting in it and him showing me the Overdrive controls. I also remember the smell. It was a C reg just like the one you are reviewing. Lovely Car. It was more sporty inside with a rev counter and circular speedo, plus dials for various instruments.
@bluesplayer59
@bluesplayer59 3 жыл бұрын
We had a black Humber Sceptre. As a kid it reminded me of the Batmobile with those rear fins . I remember the dash looking class and that round Jensenesque back window . Rust ended its days 😪
@32toyman
@32toyman 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Ian. These cars were quite a familiar sight when I was growing up in the 1960s. Also, I lived in Letchworth around the time this car was built!
@taxus750
@taxus750 3 жыл бұрын
You've jogged a few memories Ian (again). My mate Andy got his first car at 18 - it was an early Super Minx (with a number plate that had four numbers and two letters) that was rusty when he got it. My Dad had a couple of brushes with Rootes Group cars: the first was a dark bronze metallic Hillman Hunter, but it was a poverty-spec DL with the ohv 1496cc (which also went into the early Avenger). He didn't have it long, but I do remember he spent an awful amount of time trying to curb the rust. Around that time (mid to late '70s), Mum and Dad decided to buy a greengrocer/ florist shop, so Dad chopped the Hunter in for an Avenger estate (DL) with the OHV 1296cc - it was just over 3 years old and it had some rust and... well he swapped it for an early Sherpa van that had the OHV B-Series and a 4-speed box and sliding doors and ... rust. The comparison of Rootes Group models with BMC (ancient OHV engines, rust, leaf springs, rust, oil leaks and rust) is not lost on me: if anything, Minxes, Hunters and Avengers rusted away much quicker than an 1100.
@Bowerprods2011
@Bowerprods2011 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to say you ended in Letchworth :) lovely old place
@rogbrown1458
@rogbrown1458 3 жыл бұрын
Knew croft lane in the 60s.rog.
@samuraifool912
@samuraifool912 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful Car. A British car wiv an American Twist going on, those Rear Wings are Fabulous. Even if it Required Restoration that's a Magic Ebay Purchase. The Owner must feel like the King of the Road..! Great Review mr. HubNut, as always Detail, Detail and yet more Detail. Love your work as I am sure you do too...! 🤗 Cheers from Oz. 😎
@TheStobb50
@TheStobb50 3 жыл бұрын
My friends dad had one of them one of the first cars I ever drove, beautiful well built cars I do remember the Humber Sceptre with overdrive and it was reckoned that it had more clocks with a jumbo jet
@colinrees5967
@colinrees5967 Жыл бұрын
My late father's last car was an automatic Singer Vogue Estate in a darker green, the video brought back a lot of memories; I often wonder what became of "Ahab" AHB 997C
@paulc9588
@paulc9588 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love Rootes Group cars. So much obsession with BMC, Ford and Vauxhall but Rootes cars were just 'right' somehow. Very British and they clearly cared about quality but with just the right amount of transatlantic flair added to the mix.
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot 3 жыл бұрын
Very true Paul, a sad loss in the Talbot/Peugeot years
@gasgas2689
@gasgas2689 3 жыл бұрын
That 1965 car has had seat belts fitted after market. I 'helped' my dad fit some to his 1965 Cortina, using a Black and Decker drill which was made of cast metal :)
@darrencox1749
@darrencox1749 3 жыл бұрын
A car from a much more iconic time. Excellent video.
@plym1969
@plym1969 3 жыл бұрын
Ian doing what Ian does best. Great video on a beautiful car. Top Hubnut! Loved it ☺️
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 3 жыл бұрын
Here here. Really like this old bus.
@laurieharper1526
@laurieharper1526 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely looking car. I had a Minx of the same age (HGO 577C). Always lusted after the Humber Sceptre.
@robwebber1217
@robwebber1217 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a Hillman Hunter as well, inside was an extravaganza of black vinyl but we loved that car.
@diddleysquat6644
@diddleysquat6644 3 жыл бұрын
That sluggish cranking sound reminds me of my old Vauxhall victor 101 and cold morning starts in the early 80’s
@andyarmstrong1493
@andyarmstrong1493 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen one of these forever. Great vid, thanks.
@adamclark6756
@adamclark6756 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a Vauxhall Velox with a ribbon speedometer and it was always fascinating as a small child.
@rahmann936
@rahmann936 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had one of them when we was kids. But he had the one with the wrap around rear window, and the number plate was prefix letters. I remember we was driving on the motorway and how loud the engine was. You take it for granted refinement in cars nowadays.
@richardcarter1000
@richardcarter1000 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely, my dad had a green Singer Vogue just like that, but it was an auto. Later traded it for a Humber Sceptre. They all vinyl. Remember burning my legs in shorts in the summer in them.
@ClotEastwood
@ClotEastwood 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you back me old HubNut
@dennisrobinson7587
@dennisrobinson7587 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see you reviewing an old British car.Rootes made some nice looking cars back in the day.I have owned a 1957 Minx and a 1962 Rapier.
@martinpearson4639
@martinpearson4639 3 жыл бұрын
My friend had a 1966 Singer Gazelle in 2001 and we drove the short distance to Newtown. The attention it got from those who remembered them originally on the roads. The dynamo was eventually replaced by an alternator to stop it breaking down.
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