Real Road Test: Five-pot Ford S-Max! The 2.5 T. Cool MPV?

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HubNut

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@baron5747
@baron5747 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one, who doesn't have kids, but absolutely loves big cars?. Just so much space, comfort and practicality.
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 3 жыл бұрын
I once bought a C Max without having kids just for my bikes really, it was just driving a bigger Focus.
@davidmg1925
@davidmg1925 3 жыл бұрын
no
@Beany2007FTW
@Beany2007FTW 3 жыл бұрын
I had a remapped 2.0 TD MK4 Mondeo wagon and much as though I love my current E46 330ci, I do miss the ability to waft along at 80mph getting 45mpg, and to get to 80mph pretty briskly (180bhp and 280lb/ft has that effect). Was a big car but with consideration could be made to go very quickly cross country on backroads, too. Should I get myself into a financial position to justify running two cars again, I think something big, with waft and lazy power (perhaps an E39 six pot diesel wagon with some tweaks to get more power) would compliment something small and fighty that you can drive at wide open throttle everywhere (Clio 182, MK1 Puma, etc) quite nicely.
@alanlansdell7533
@alanlansdell7533 3 жыл бұрын
No, not by a country mile.
@niklaswejedal463
@niklaswejedal463 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, Baron! - There is no substitue to cubic inches - on the inside ;)
@acdcbackyardbabies
@acdcbackyardbabies 3 жыл бұрын
We had two of these in 2.0 TDCi manual form as Motability cars. Fantastically versatile, capable and underrated vehicles.
@fruitychink
@fruitychink 3 жыл бұрын
SMax that I had was a beauty and is still going strong with the guy I sold it to .
@torresalex
@torresalex 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Volvo S60 T5 with a 2.3litre version of that engine. It's an unrivalled masterpiece of reliability, effortlessness, speed and acceleration, and even economy. I could do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds but drive softly and I got about 38mpg. It was nigh-on perfect
@jamp12008
@jamp12008 3 жыл бұрын
I sat in the back of a Zafira from West Lothian to Alton Towers. That was exciting. At least I could reach the beer
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 3 жыл бұрын
The Zafira also has that spade handle style handbrake.
@VeyronBD
@VeyronBD 3 жыл бұрын
Blessing is the zafira (at least the mk1) had a bit more legspace in the very back. I guess ford wanted to get away from the "rear seats are the crumple zone" thing with the zafira
@KylieBeattie
@KylieBeattie 3 ай бұрын
My dad had borrowed his friend's zafira and I sat in the back going from Livingston to a caravan holiday in Fleetwood and took one of the back seats out for more boot space the seats were solid but never bothered me we could have done with a 7 seater at the time cos there was 6 of us in the house and cars we had were just 5 seaters
@d.c.Jones70
@d.c.Jones70 3 жыл бұрын
A good point about the pull out load cover not having storage. We had the same problem with our Zafira,however we then got a Zafira tourer and that is a much better thought out car and the load cover has it’s own storage compartment. Nobody ever wants cars like these however once you’ve had one it’s hard to find the practicality they provide from anything else.
@simonparkinson1053
@simonparkinson1053 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, had a Zafira-A 11 years now after "not wanting one"... 320,000 miles and still going strong.
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 3 жыл бұрын
My brother has one (2L 4cyl.), I also drove a few long distances with that S-Max, a lovely car.
@tinplategeek1058
@tinplategeek1058 3 жыл бұрын
Well the Zafira did really set the roads alight 😁😁😁🔥🔥🔥
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 жыл бұрын
GM are great at creating self igniting cars. Their recent new EV can't even be parked inside a garage as the battery self combusts
@volvo480
@volvo480 3 жыл бұрын
A Ford with a five pot Volvo engine, that's better than the other way around. I have a Volvo with a Ford engine...
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 3 жыл бұрын
Not a mazda engine then? That's what they usually were if not peugeot.
@GuyChapman
@GuyChapman 3 жыл бұрын
My lad had one of they: V70 2.0D. Amazingly frugal, mind. 900+ miles per tank.
@Phiyedough
@Phiyedough 3 жыл бұрын
I have an LDV Convoy with a 2.4 Ford engine and it destroyed its flywheel and starter motor.
@volvo480
@volvo480 3 жыл бұрын
@@rimmersbryggeri between 2007 and 2011 it was a Mazda designed 2.0 indeed, but between 2011 and 2014 Volvo installed a 1.6 litre Ford Ecoboost in the lower range of its models. Arguably that is originally a Yamaha design.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 3 жыл бұрын
@@volvo480 Ok I see. At least it's not the Mitsubishi GDI they used in the s/v40. I thought all the ecoboost l4 engines were based on the Mazda l.
@FastAsFunk
@FastAsFunk 3 жыл бұрын
Had this engine in my wife's Kuga. Fabulous car...!!!
@Mouse2113
@Mouse2113 3 жыл бұрын
Engine makes sense in a car that big. People carriers have a purpose, unlike SUVs 🙃
@pprc5363
@pprc5363 3 жыл бұрын
You need Griff Rhys Jones to demonstrate all the different seat combinations
@kamrankhan-lj1ng
@kamrankhan-lj1ng 3 жыл бұрын
1980 Metro?
@faustinaadu2284
@faustinaadu2284 3 жыл бұрын
Remember this. I think the S Max is very cool and underrated
@daviestewart2510
@daviestewart2510 3 жыл бұрын
A Northern Irish Ford, not long after the Betty videos, you're turning into a Ford fan boy Ian! :D
@gotham61
@gotham61 3 жыл бұрын
I once rented a S Max in Germany, and the third and second row seats had full power folding, with switches in the rear cargo area. It also had automated self parallel parking.
@habsom1406
@habsom1406 3 жыл бұрын
The camera lady is very skilled, very steady smooth panning and obviously has an eye for framing a shot. All this professionalism makes viewing your videos very enjoyable. ....She warrants a pay rise!
@mervynmorris613
@mervynmorris613 3 жыл бұрын
The 90s Toyota Previa(Tarago here in Australia)was the last word in MPVs. I got mine to over an indicated 100 mph. And was still going strong at over 400000 km. The back row of seats were completely comfortable for adults and there was still masses of space for luggage.
@marcelslofstra2157
@marcelslofstra2157 Жыл бұрын
So, a lot slower than this Ford. How is that ‘the last word’.
@mervynmorris613
@mervynmorris613 Жыл бұрын
The Ford will be rooted after less than 200000 Kms
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 3 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who ownes one of these, he loves it.
@plym1969
@plym1969 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see this review especially now we have Betty to compare it to. Ford really went on a winning run after the introduction of the Focus in 1998. The ride and handling became class leading but I've never sat in a Ford and felt that it's interior was made out of the best materials or oozed luxury and class. Great review as always, Hubnut doing what he does best.
@rentaghost
@rentaghost 3 жыл бұрын
When we hit rock bottom, there is only one way to go. UP!!! Wishing you all the best Ian.
@jackkinkead868
@jackkinkead868 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see another Northern Irish reg on Hubnut - Co Antrim this time!
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 жыл бұрын
These were actually pretty cool cars. Unfortunately all of the people carriers were replaced by hideous SUV's
@BelfastMurf
@BelfastMurf 3 жыл бұрын
I hired one of these on a family holiday in France. I’d regularly driven my father in law’s Vauxhall Zafira, & I’d hired various Voyagers, badged variously as Plymouth’s & Chrysler’s in Florida. I can safely say the S Max was the most pleasant to spend time in. Those parking sensors were excellent in the really tight caravan park we stayed in. The beeps came from the speakers in the direction of the obstacle, and helped avoid a few bumps! One of Ford’s best family movers…
@paultaylor9652
@paultaylor9652 3 жыл бұрын
So much better than the SUV's nowadays with their tiny boots, a proper family car hey Mr HubNut.
@HenrikScheel_
@HenrikScheel_ 3 жыл бұрын
I had an Escort Mark 5. I found it a good car. And I liked the way you could tilt the angle of the driver seat. I have never found this function in any other car since then.
@HubNut
@HubNut 3 жыл бұрын
Citroen BX has that on most models. C5 too. Which was nice.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen a BMW without seat tilt, has to be a very old or poverty spec one if that would be the case, methinks.
@jonp5641
@jonp5641 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like ideal Hubnut family transport and the dashboard binnacle and dials looked really cool.
@af5579
@af5579 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh, a county Antrim reg didn't expect to see an NI car on your channel
@iankenward69
@iankenward69 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned my ‘06 2.5t smax for 6 yrs now.. love it!! even when it’s broken!!👍
@furkankavsur7638
@furkankavsur7638 3 жыл бұрын
The handbrake reminded me a lot of the Alfa 75's handbrake only that the Alfas was placed vertically instead of horizontally as in the Ford
@oris247
@oris247 3 жыл бұрын
Remember it well from my two.
@mattmilford
@mattmilford 3 жыл бұрын
Just look at how accessible that engine is! Must be a joy to work on!
@JFinnerud
@JFinnerud 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct about 2.0 diesel. It is a PSA design and is a good and reliable engine (The same can not be said about the 1.8)
@daniellee9015
@daniellee9015 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Ian 👍
@kieranwhite6647
@kieranwhite6647 3 жыл бұрын
I'll probably never need a 7 seater, but I love the idea of one of these
@niklaswejedal463
@niklaswejedal463 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Allthough I might come up with some good excuse to own one.... :D
@chappy2121
@chappy2121 3 жыл бұрын
If you like these have a look at the Nissan Elgrands and Toyota Alphards and Vellfires. Loads of car for the money, but 3.5v6 petrol motors. Half the price of the alternatives though
@heikkiremes5661
@heikkiremes5661 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Levenstone132
@Levenstone132 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. H,never knew these had the 5 pot. Could be a good stable mate to my '97 T5 Wagon. Start the search...
@chrisglover1978
@chrisglover1978 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a Fiat Stilo Abarth with the 2.4L 5 cylinder 170HP engine. On the rare occassions it actually worked, it had all the smoothness of a 4 Cylinder, and the fuel economy of a 6!
@Dino_Dad.
@Dino_Dad. 3 жыл бұрын
These were a really nice design, and have stood the test of time. The c- max name was pretty cool too. As a five seater that's one really practical mode of transport.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to look at anything post- about 2000 as too modern to really be interesting, but these reviews of cars in that sort of grey area between now-historic and "modern" reminds one that there are some more modern things that can be interesting.
@cornishhh
@cornishhh 3 жыл бұрын
I think you have to have a sliding scale with what constitutes "Too modern" Otherwise you tend to run out of cost effective daily drivers.
@wobblybobengland
@wobblybobengland Жыл бұрын
We've had a Galaxy for the last six years three kids and my old parents fit perfectly in it, the best car I've ever had, 170hp 2.2 diesel, the PSA engine. I don't get on with my local Ford dealer so I've been looking for a replacement vehicle from something that wasn't a blue oval, tried plenty of models and we've ultimately unanimously decided on an S-Max. These are Fords designed by the best Swedish engineers of their day, unlike the lesser C-Max, Torneo stuff.
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 3 жыл бұрын
Same engine and M66 gearbox as my old V50 T5. Always liked the S-Max - definitely one of the most enjoyable family MPVs. Driven a few and they are really nice to drive. Great review Ian
@johnwaga3702
@johnwaga3702 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting review. I’ve always found Fords very easy to drive with good gear changes. They don’t have the character of some makes but they are reliable in my experience.
@keithbradfield7825
@keithbradfield7825 3 жыл бұрын
With the sun in front I could hardly see much but still love your videos
@MisterTea74
@MisterTea74 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the left handed biased wipers. I’m currently on my 4th S-Max and have driven approx 80,000 mile in and never noticed. Now I am irritated by this! Seriously though, i am enjoying the content having recently subscribed. Thank you
@zxerps
@zxerps 3 жыл бұрын
My dad rented one of these a couple of years ago to go to Exeter and it was absolutely lovely spacious as hell could probably sleep quite well in it😂
@chrisdowns1987
@chrisdowns1987 3 жыл бұрын
Back on to autotrader again. Even the slight 5 cyl warble makes everything better. If I ever own a fawd it's going to be getting that badge, cracked me up 🤣
@TW-80
@TW-80 3 жыл бұрын
I have a MK4 Mondeo TitaniumX with the same engine and love it, despite not seeing 30mpg on the computer. Mr Hubnut, you're welcome for a drive if you want
@davidsjenkins281
@davidsjenkins281 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I had a focus c max good cars I use to enjoy driving from London to Wales the best drive anyway great video keep up with the good work
@mike1995903
@mike1995903 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you finally driving an smax. The wipers are on the wrong way round the big one should be on driver side I have a 2010 2.0l tdci you should have a go in it
@timcrow5162
@timcrow5162 3 жыл бұрын
Had a 2.0 TDCI Titanium, covered over 100k in my ownership and I loved it. It did absolutely everything brilliantly. If I was careful it would just manage 60mpg. Imagine how cool they will look in a few years time. Could be a good option for a family man like you, Ian.
@thebaldconvict
@thebaldconvict 3 жыл бұрын
I was dreading this test since my daily is a dirty diesel one of these.... My parcel shelf permanently lives at home, with the factory tinted windows you don't need it really but yes, stupid design indeed! They also have a fun thing called an apple catcher that is essentially a spring loaded bar that goes from one side of the boot to the other because of a poor boot design where when you open the boot lid everything ends up on the road. You are also spot on about the wipers, as standard the longer blade is on the passenger side. It has to be this way also because they need to clear the auto wipers sensor behind the rear view mirror but you can change them to put a long blade on both sides. And with the engines, mine is the 2.0 TDCI, it is indeed a Peugeot as used in taxis, Volvos, Peugeots, Citroens and pretty much everything else haha, it gets it round well enough but sporty at 140BHP it is not. Nice review sir.
@Beany2007FTW
@Beany2007FTW 3 жыл бұрын
Get it remapped, a simple generic map (Celtic tuning, et Al) will get you to north of 170bhp and 270lb/ft, with a far earlier turbo spool up and it makes boost later in the rev range too - giving it about 3000rpm of real, usable shove, not the standard 1500, which makes it significantly more flexible in gear. A few hundred quid to get done, and then just make sure you keep it well serviced as it's running a little harder than standard. Had that engine in a Mondeo and the remap made it far more engaging to drive because you suddenly had more options from the increased tractability of the engine.
@thebaldconvict
@thebaldconvict 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beany2007FTW yeah often thought about it but never get round to it.... had it three years already as well so no excuse ha ha 🤣
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beany2007FTW funny the 140ps and the 163ps version of the PSA engines in the Ford will both remap to the same figure. 170ps is good for the 140 the 163 is obviously near its limits already.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 2 жыл бұрын
"dribble wipe". I've done it a million times but didn't know there was a word for that.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock 3 жыл бұрын
Tich! I used to dog-sit for a friend's 'broken haired' Jack Russell - Peanut, lovely little fella and the fastest thing on four legs I've ever personally been acquainted with.
@shieldaigbencher
@shieldaigbencher 3 жыл бұрын
We have a 2014 S-max 2.0 td Zetec manual which we have had from nearly new which we are thinking about replacing. Teenagers have fledged. But we love the versatility of this car and the space. Total reliability in our ownership. Now at 90k miles. We just went to Norfolk in it and on the way back talked about buying a new or as new as possible S-max. Never tried the 2.5 5 petrol of the older model but these are really well made. I whole heartedly recommend them. Yes wipers are left hand drive but no problem. Excellent and versatile car. Handles ok too. Bit heavy on front tyres, expect 12-15,000 miles. Less probs on the 2.5 petrol.
@jennydonne8946
@jennydonne8946 3 жыл бұрын
It's the same issue with the Peugeot 308 clap hand wipers, the passenger side blade was bigger than the drivers side, I fitted both sides with the same size as the passenger side and that worked OK
@robenglish416
@robenglish416 3 жыл бұрын
Like the styling, one of the most handsome MPV, even though I used to own a Scenic which I really liked. The neighbour had two in a run as a company car (TDi) so he must have been satisfied. Now his kids are bigger and he drives a Volvo XC60 hybrid.
@legambaz
@legambaz 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely car the S-Max. The newer ones have Dual Clutch box and that's amazing. But I heard they're plagued with reliability issues with the gear box, electrical and parts are quite expensive. The reasons I haven't got my hands on one even though i absolutely like driving it.
@davidmccord7584
@davidmccord7584 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you get the transmission fluid and filter changed every 40-60k miles there shouldn't be any reliability issues. £300 at a ford dealer tho 😥 Mine runs great at just over 100k
@Banglish123
@Banglish123 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful review and yet another Blue Oval what has become of you? I've been considering one of these for a while and I cant have diesel so thisll be the one for me.
@darren-thecottageatelier8962
@darren-thecottageatelier8962 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for tell me all about the car I have just accidentally purchased, I did not realise it was a 5 cylinder engine. I have to say my example is rather loud, so after hearing your report I shall have to check if I have some sort of an after market exhaust fitted to mine. It is quite 'boomy' and after a 10 hour drive in it I must admit to not liking it that much, although it did drive very well however I only got low 30s on fuel consumption. Thanks for the excellent timely video.
@SA-zoom1
@SA-zoom1 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the pop bang brigade put an anti-lag map and straight through exhaust on one of these. Might scare a few ppl on the school run 😂
@brettchandra5207
@brettchandra5207 3 жыл бұрын
I’m almost considering doing it myself with our 250K tdci, it could probably do with a bit of a refresh - an egr and dpf delete would probably do it (and everyone behind me when I put my foot down) a world of good! 😂
@angelikahiggs4628
@angelikahiggs4628 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the pop bang brigade grow up and stop creating noise pollution. I like a sports exhaust as much as anyone but this trend is ridiculous.
@andicog
@andicog 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same gen but the Galaxy, I've owned all sorts of nice cars but that Galaxy was one of the best, it was only the basic Zetec but it did everything, kids, dogs, house move, tip runs, holidays, I was really sorry to see it go after 5 years. The galaxy has a much better 3rd row of seats. Very well built as well.
@shieldaigbencher
@shieldaigbencher 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and the 2.0 diesel from 2014 does a real 50+ mpg on holiday runs. Looks great in that red too.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a 56 2.0tdci I love it handles quite well for a big car aswell good fun as dad mobile
@sameyers2670
@sameyers2670 3 жыл бұрын
I like the S Max, an ex work colleague had one that he loved.
@garrytalbot3456
@garrytalbot3456 3 жыл бұрын
Essex police used these (in 2.5 turbo mode) as traffic cars and dog vans. Great load carriers and superb handling for such a large car good for nearly 140mph . EU08VGC was the one i drove.
@pdtech4524
@pdtech4524 3 жыл бұрын
Nice motor, not seen many with the 2.5T engine most are 2.0 diesel. 😯🤔
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 3 жыл бұрын
Nice interior Ian but I hate the silver trim and buttons, otherwise an interesting car never the less.
@jonnycando
@jonnycando 3 жыл бұрын
I had a usa spec Ford Focus with all that silver trim..,i put a wood kit in and it became positively posh! Drove it 13 years and just recently gave it to my nephew who drives it to work every day!
@gosportjamie
@gosportjamie 3 жыл бұрын
And they also put that 5-pot Volvo turbo engine in the Mondeo too, which are very popular with police forces as covert surveillance vehicles... There was a more sporty version of the S-Max 2.5T, which Fifth Gear tested and proved that you can get 7 people in it, drive it at 100mph on a race track, Rockingham if I remember right, and make your passengers thoroughly sick. The second row of seats can be slid and locked further forward to give the third row passengers a decent amount of leg room. This version, however, is the Titanium, which was the top of the range for the turbo petrol unlike the rest of the range where there was a Titanium X, so it is a bit more toned down to focus on the comfort side a bit more. The heated and cooled half leather and alcantara seats, which were standard in the Titanium X, were available on the turbo Titanium as an option, as were the sporty 18 inch wheels which do rather reduce the ride comfort, as memory serves standard fit was either 17, or maybe 16 inch with taller tyre side walls that did make the vehicle ride a lot more quietly and smoothly. The 18s were standard fit on the more sporty version, the Zetec if I remember correctly, which tends to be the most common version of these around now as they were popular with a number of police authorities as traffic vehicles and also with a number of ambulance services as rapid response paramedic vehicles. One of these S-Maxes used to be one of the starring cars in one of the fly-on-the-wall traffic police series until eventually getting written off in a pursuit when far beyond the age that most traffic vehicles get retired. These really didn't sell very well to the general public as they were rather expensive to buy new and, being from the emissions tax era, they are expensive to tax. This car probably started off life as a demonstrator for Hendy Ford, as I remember them having a Colorado Red S-Max Titanium 2.5T when I was doing a bit of helping out for them during operational changes, a vehicle which I drove a fair few times as it was being used by one of the management accountants, and it was a lot of fun to drive for such a big vehicle, though it really did seem to shrink around you when you drove it so it never felt like it was a great big boat of a vehicle, which was a huge change from most 7-seater full size MPVs, and, as you said, despite the power it was very far from having dipsomania in normal use...
@oris247
@oris247 3 жыл бұрын
The S-Max was genius. A family car that drives like a sporty hatch. And married to that burbling 5 cylinder, brilliant!
@JakobKsGarage
@JakobKsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I know they are everywhere and very common, but I would love to see you test a 107/C1/Aygo, with the loud and fun 3cylinder Daihatsu engine and one front wiper! That Boeing 747 handbrake is so cool!
@_autoverse
@_autoverse 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in a dealership and very briefly drove one, the handbrake certainly is a unique design. Although from my experience it felt flimsy, could have been a result of over enthusiastic use by previous owner.
@this_is_a_tiny_town
@this_is_a_tiny_town 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming that's the original plate then that car started out local to me in Co. Antrim.
@noelhuggett8745
@noelhuggett8745 3 жыл бұрын
Currently own the 2.0 diesel top spec version, it's been a fantastic car over the last 7 years, been to France three times and Switzerland as well, thousands of trouble free miles covered, it will be a shame to move it on.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the same a titanium one love the car only real expense was a dual mass apart from that been pretty spot on in 4 years I've had and has lugged around absolutely everything and anything you can think of.
@alextoft9199
@alextoft9199 3 жыл бұрын
I have a HUGE respect for Fords. The S Max was good enough but the 2009 Mondeo after this was fantastic and a real high point. My friends Dad had one in top spec Titanium X, and it was very well built and nice to travel in. Have had a lot of Fiestas, and they always punch above their weight. Personally I think they are hugely underrated, and often better than something from the VAG group of a similar time. 😊
@grahamclark4518
@grahamclark4518 3 жыл бұрын
I've got its bigger brother a 2.8 V6 Galaxy. I love it
@kevinkeeney6693
@kevinkeeney6693 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that this may be the first real world test drive that I have ever watched. I can't remember a test drive in which testing the handling was restricted due to dogs in the back seats. So HubNut.
@johannes.f.r.
@johannes.f.r. 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 2.5T is a great engine, albeit slightly thirsty. My dad has an old XC70 and it just goes in every gear, as you said.
@tedmus
@tedmus 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1.8 TDCi, the seat belt buckles in the back rattled like castanets over bumps if you didn't tuck them in between the seat cushions. Decent steer and very practical but cost me too much money in repairs in the end.
@Bucharestguidedtours
@Bucharestguidedtours 3 жыл бұрын
Much as i like my Fords I always thought the front end of these was too much like a giant mk1 Ka..great vid.."come on the Fords"..Best wishes
@stephenshippam9374
@stephenshippam9374 3 жыл бұрын
Hi another good review and road test
@jimdennant8042
@jimdennant8042 3 жыл бұрын
I had an S-Max for nearly 7 years 130k on clock when I sold it, absolute brilliant car, I personally think the best MPV. Although mine was the 1.8 diesel version I fitted a tuning box on it to give it more power.
@tauncfester3022
@tauncfester3022 3 жыл бұрын
Ian, I think you're recalling the 2.3 liter 20 valve Volvo Turbo engine from the 850 series. At low revs when punched into kickdown before the turbo has spooled sufficiently it was quite chortley. They have a bit of a V8 snarl to them as they climb the revs but it's different sound. I was always surprized how neck snappingly zingy the 240 hp 850 engine was, even when fed through the automatic transmission.
@arthurs7882
@arthurs7882 3 жыл бұрын
that third row is quite well integrated
@TaffPlays
@TaffPlays 3 жыл бұрын
Never realised that these had the 5 cylinder, with a good sounding exhaust, it would be the sporty man's family wagon 100%. Well, this or an Ford EF Falcon XR6 Wagon/Estate with aftermarket 3rd row seats which you could do
@MaddRIP1
@MaddRIP1 3 жыл бұрын
you can tune these engines to stupid numbers, my Focus ST has 440 hp atm
@Beany2007FTW
@Beany2007FTW 3 жыл бұрын
You could get this lump in the MK4 Mondeo in old man Ghia spec too, for proper q-car goodness.
@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav
@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav 3 жыл бұрын
You could also get the VW Sharan with the gti's 1.8t, or a 2.8vr6
@shadowdraxx
@shadowdraxx 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like the perfect van for me
@Everything_Evan
@Everything_Evan 3 жыл бұрын
Zafira mk1 is the best people carrier I've owned, it just never went wrong and was abused daily for years.
@sharonec5419
@sharonec5419 Жыл бұрын
A great car the S-Max. So much better than any SUV out there. The Dad had a 07 Zetec one in Dark blue with the 1.8 diesel engine. He should really have went for the 2.0litre diesel but otherwise it was a great car and could easily carry 7 people as it did many times.
@billy2rivers1
@billy2rivers1 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 20ltr diesel turbo smax .it was the dogs bollox and the proper show off handbrake ha . It was great.
@AR-iu9jv
@AR-iu9jv 3 жыл бұрын
A 20ltr ? Wow what a beast ;)
@ianfrost3529
@ianfrost3529 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin had one but when he changed jobs and was doing more miles brought the diesel both were great cars and is diesel one was no slouch either but 20mpg better on fuel but loved the smoothness of his 5 pot
@HakanKoseoglu
@HakanKoseoglu 3 жыл бұрын
Had a Renault Scenic - very similar idea, incredibly well thought interior, 7 seat models existing bla bla bla. As a bachelor it was still perfect, I could fit everything in it with rear seats removed, just like a van. The fuel mpg wasn't great even on a 1.6L. The real problem was reliability and the amount ££££ it required to pass MOTs every year. Replaced it with a Ka, didn't regret it.
@robinvanags912
@robinvanags912 3 жыл бұрын
Titch's tail - wiper-action, no 'triangle-of-doom'.
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 3 жыл бұрын
I think ‘Titch’ 🐶 appreciated the air-con more than anything else. 😁
@SpudGun4U
@SpudGun4U 2 жыл бұрын
Had two of the 2.5t, both 56 plate Titaniums, both had oil starvation issues 😵‍💫, one had to have an engine rebuilt after it sharted its timing belt... still, didn't put me off a third, now got an 11 plate 2.0t ecoboost with 237bhp and all the toys, marginally faster, but I miss the 2.5 sound. As others have said, they're ridiculously practical, I've had full wardrobes, full height freezers, 7 people plus Xmas shopping. Just make sure your front tyres are decent as it'll lunch cheap ones.
@AndySnap
@AndySnap 3 жыл бұрын
I think those 5 cylinder 2.5lt engines were the basis of Ford's mighty BTCC Mondeo engines back in the day (Volvo's touring car T5 estates too)..?? A great shame the excellently versatile MPV has fallen out of fashion with buyers, who now prefer the jacked up, bulky over sized SUV. I recall my C-Max being such a spacious and space efficient sized car, drove very nicely too. Less is more...
@ocvcOSCA
@ocvcOSCA 3 жыл бұрын
The Mondeo was raced with a V6 engine. The Volvo 850 Estate, 850 Saloon and the S40, with special dispensation from Toca (Road S40 or V40 were only sold with a 4 cylinder), we're raced with the 5 Cylinder naturally aspirated version as per the regulations. The 5 cylinder racing engine nearly wasn't successful as I if I remember correctly the company Ricardo who did the initial engine work could only get 280 bhp out of it. Only after TWR took a look at the regulations with a 'F1 mindset' could they get the power up and over 300bhp and finally to about 325 - 330bhp. There are some decent reads on the net about it, and there's also an excellent KZbin video about the Mondeo BTCC program somewhere.
@seankirby1327
@seankirby1327 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Ford Cmax PHEV ,,,,,energi. It is very similar....It has a plug in hybrid....195 hp 195 ft pd ....I get 60 mpg...it is quick. quiet and handles well.
@DIYPanda1
@DIYPanda1 3 жыл бұрын
I've got one, sadly a 2 litre diesel not the 2.5 petrol. It's been a good car, handles nicely. Like all these, no chance of getting in the back seats with children's seats installed in the second row - you have to climb through the boot. Move the second row forward a bit and I can get in the 3rd row at 6ft though.
@Chriswales
@Chriswales 3 жыл бұрын
I'd almost forgotten about them, don't see many around now. Guess the people who did buy them are now going around in leased Ford Kugas
@creyly8326
@creyly8326 3 жыл бұрын
We had a galaxy and went to a kuga (I didn't want to) disappointed with it, space and quality no where near the galaxy
@thisiszaphod
@thisiszaphod 3 жыл бұрын
S-Max doing what an XC90 does!
@kyle_cars3059
@kyle_cars3059 3 жыл бұрын
They also put that 5 cylinder engine in the mk4 mondeo
@rwd323
@rwd323 3 жыл бұрын
Were they sold in the uk with this engine? We got the Xr5 in New Zealand
@Zerofightervi
@Zerofightervi 3 жыл бұрын
@@rwd323 Yes they were, only the first phase of Mondeo MK IV, by the face-lift it was dropped in place of a ordinary 2.0 turbo petrol.
@kevincahill1204
@kevincahill1204 3 жыл бұрын
I drive smax myself ..bloody great ol machine ..
@neilsheppard6673
@neilsheppard6673 3 жыл бұрын
I had the 2L tdci Galaxy version. I liked it at first, great family wagon, towed a caravan, loved the folding seats - you got a small van when they're all down! But I found it a bit harsh and uncomfortable, and the air con never worked properly. Then the dual-mass flywheel disintegrated and that's when I got rid.
@andyarmstrong1493
@andyarmstrong1493 3 жыл бұрын
Never realised these were so versatile.
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