Real Talk on Steroids with Dr. George Touliatos| | MD Levrone Report E15

[@MuscularDevelopmentMedia]

00:00 Intro 6:56 Are steroids dangerous? If so, in what ways? 10:14 When did steroids enter the sport of bodybuilding? 14:30 Kevin tells Dr. T his past cutting cycle, asks for critique 17:30 Kevin never did PCT after cycles 20:00 Kevin’s total test level was 275 for several years after he retired 21:25 Advantages of splitting TRT does into twice-weekly rather than once a week 26:28 HGH - does it work? What are its effects? How much is needed? 32:20 Would the same men be champions if steroids did not exist? 35:50 Delusional people who think anyone could look like Mr. Olympia if he took enough drugs 37:40 Kevin was not a master of PED’s or nutrition, but he mastered training 41:47 Kevin’s astonishing examples of muscle memory 43:44 How much do nutrition and supplementation affect athletic performance? 52:30 Faith in God

[@Sirgromulus]

Kudos to Ron, Kevin and George for actually addressing religion and faith. Very refreshing in today's society. Just one more reason why Kevin is one of my favorite bodybuilders. God bless!

[@andreakferrara1977]

Kevin's charisma and humility is unparalleled.

[@ministert5836]

That was a beautiful interview. Much respect to Kevin really opening up at the end.

[@supremeteam1831]

Respect Kevin's honesty 💯💯

[@paulvincent2576]

awesome show guys I learnt a lot

[@MrBulldog2626]

Awesome show!! God bless fellas!!

[@MightyHofi]

Kevin is the man! What a Legend! God bless you too!

[@loriolus]

Impressive that without lifting weights and just doing cardio Kevin is still over 210 lbs lean.

[@tenpro89]

fellow lover of Christ here too- i love you Doc!! God bless you!!

[@nikosrosos5180]

Great stuff as always 🏆Kevin 💪Ron 👍Dr t

[@PawanSharmaBaru]

Thanks, INFORMATIVE talk

[@australianmen75]

Doc George, Ron and Kevin!!! The best combination ever to talk about peds

[@lakeforkgiants]

Looking good Ron!

[@espadagt1934]

Kevin is actually stating the best scientific understanding of his time. Before Bhasin’s studies in late 1980s the standard medical references said steroids have little or no effect on muscle growth.

[@perucho2194]

On the right track, keep in mind there where some studies in the 70's showing dianabol efficacy

[@perucho2194]

Great last 15 minutes💪

[@andreromanfitness1092]

Great show today Ron!!!

[@brandonjordan2516]

Some people are just genetically gifted. I've heard similiar stories (not many) of people who do no PCT and notice absolutely no difference on or off Test. It's incredible.

[@henokzewe5103]

thanks for having those guys in the world? and still they are alive

[@JW18721]

Kevin needs a autobiography! All time favorite 90’s bodybuilder along with Lee Priest!

[@TheManishTalreja]

Sir,I have a question for you. I use testosterone enanthate 250 mg every week. Instead,you think,testosterone suspension-water based 25mg I should use each day??? Cuz oil they use I’ve no idea about. But it’s Pharma grade. I also want to add deca to it. But for a long term use. So should I go for deca durabolin or NPP. ??? And the dosage. 25 mg twice a week or 12.5mg daily??? Further more you think I should add oxandrolone 10 mg Every 8 hours or just deca and test ?? Sir,do you suggest taking finastride 1mg daily and cabergoline 0.5mg twice weekly with such low doses as well?? Or it’s ok to not to have both ?? When I inject enanthate on Monday,I take 0.5mg arimidex on a Tuesday and 1500 iu’s of HCG on Wednesday night. So,if I switch to test suspension daily,how to take arimidex and HCG ?? Moreover I take cialis 5mg daily while I sleep. Would appreciate if you could suggest a good plan for HRT for a long term use. My use of HGH is 3 units daily. Pregnelolone 200mg I take daily. Vitamin & minerals are almost all that I take. I buy best quality. Never compromise on any. I never want my sex life and libido to be compromised. I look athletic and am 215 pounds lean at 5-10 inches. Would appreciate a response sir. Thank you very much. Kind regards.

[@melobazzi]

Hello Doc, wat u recommend an aspiring bodybuilder do as far as PED usage.. who has GFR score now down into the 50s, and now seeing nephrology. Is this the end of enhancement or is there a way to still use Gear? Thanks.

[@JJ-ps9xe]

Jesus and bodybuilding….. one will never loose!

[@TheManishTalreja]

@drgeoegetoulitas sir,if I’ve to inject 25mg daily,do you suggest injecting water based testosterone suspension daily ?? It reduces the chances of injecting dirty carrier oils each day as well. Taking your opinion sir. I get all testosterone Pharma grade here. Thank you. Kind regards.

[@melbobadilla5996]

The last 12 minutes of this podcast made my day. New found respect for some great men.

[@perucho2194]

Exactly

[@B_Y22]

Kevin being coached by Dave and not getting much results from his GH makes a lot of sense.

[@giovannigiorgio8664]

so true and underrated comment lol

[@RonHarrisMuscle]

Then again, you won't see much from GH after only 6 weeks -

[@tiryakidetiryaki784]

If you know your age and your health situation after this limit of steroid it’s not bad💪

[@donzouan9687]

Hey doc you mentioned about depression do you use medication for it?

[@aaroncatolico7550]

I have to say that I really appreciate when legends like Kevin come forward & tell the truth about their cycles & how their experiences went during their prime level. Hats off to Kevin for his honesty. Gotta respect him for telling the truth. 👍👍

[@rudolphhess1275]

Dr lleyelyn ranked steroids right after marijuana as far as being "dangerous" . Although he was also talking about a one cycle type thing. It's right in his anabolics book.

[@aaroncatolico7550]

Shit, I only took 300mg of Testosterone Cypionate and grew like a weed. I never really capped off on my fullest potential because of distractions that kept me from going to the gym. But only 2-3 months on Testosterone and I went from 190lb to 225lb and lean muscle growth with immense strength. I was benching close to 405lb with very little gear.

[@zakariatutah2521]

Kevin Is a amazing body Builder. But a good example that Body builders don't always know what they're doing or talking about when it comes to steroids and its usually a good coach driving success Kevin had great genetics and that is it. So listen to a Doctor

[@dansmith9724]

👍

[@latman1]

Fascinating how they all believe in God yet rationalize the drug use. Don't you think "God" created your body chemistry to be what it is naturally?🤔🤔

[@PL-tu7jg]

Love these guys, but I find it impossible to believe that a Mr O legend doesn’t even know what HCG is.

[@VBH8888]

Who the fuck would dislike information. Must of been someone who fucked themselves up on cycle lol

[@efsha6197]

❤😊❤❤

[@pq9254]

I like Kevin , a lot. Prob my favorite bodybuilder. But, I always felt the 90s pros made roids not as significant. They always would say I took it this week maybe forgot the next week... how could this be, when there is science supporting evidence with all these drugs , there are protocols. They weren’t this oblivious. I feel they all did this to make the drugs less significant and put more emphasize on the training and nutrition... but in reality, they did pay attention to drugs more than they show

[@dmg12345678]

They took GRAMS of many steroids year round. They always down play their usage because it was very abusive. 1000-1500mgs week when it was really 4g-7grams week plus 12-25iu hgh and 100-200iu slin.

[@dmg12345678]

@Surb Singh I’m not talking about “people” I’m talking about competitive bodybuilders at the national level or higher who have good or great genetics.

[@janbuterfly]

I was so happy when Kevin joined MD with Ron. That interview with those twins was a little disappointing and he said some strange stuff, so I kind of lost interest.

[@massakra]

Kevin used to say he never took insulin, until now... Wondering why he lied before.

[@dmg12345678]

On 8iu hgh for 6 weeks only 🤦‍♂️

[@mw1429]

like watching a bunch of alcoholics discuss the best alcohol- lol- this is not the rout to learn- thought it was but - as always nope