Real Time Knife Sharpening s110v, sharpening stone talk, edge geometry, grit progression, strops

[@OUTDOORS55]

I found the link to the cbn stone and its in the description. I couldn’t find it again on amazon to post again for some reason, it just disappeared. I think that link still works though. If not a good alternative to the cbn stone is this one from DMT amzn.to/3Gdpeqn It comes in a 10" version too but is slightly more expensive. I would suggest the coarse/fine combo. Anyway hope this video helps in some way. Thanks for watching! Link is an amazon affiliate link I earn from qualifying purchases

[@ragecharacter4743]

This was a nice vid thanks for the upload.

[@jeffallen3382]

Love the long format videos! Better than watching TV! Especially the news!

[@Tinkering902]

Where's your machete sword Collab with Art of Craftsmanship?

[@denizwieteck]

man look at that workshop, I started watching your contend back in the days when u filmed in the shed (2k18 or 19 I think) making your first knives, you brought me into an amazing community, thanks a lot Alex

[@jessebott1879]

Is this even Damascus?

[@IntelWond]

Won't be tired of saying you're the most nice guy on knife sharpening I've ever seen on KZbin.)

[@robthompson8285]

This is the best GD knife channel on KZbin. Period.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Appreciate it👊

[@e.t.preppin7084]

I much prefer this style video myself. Real time. This way I can know better where I’m at when trying to duplicate the process. Thanks

[@homeslicesharpening]

Thanks for the laid back video and a glimpse into your current sharpening practices. As a sharpening researcher, I find your perspective and experience helpful. As a person who knows that there’s a LOT I don’t know, I appreciate you being down-to-earth and honest. Thanks bro. Glad you are back to making videos more often.

[@marcbrmb]

Your no-nonsense approach has always been most helpful. God bless. Peace

[@Aerzon1v1]

I appreciate the long form videos on occasion, helps to see the full process. It's more realistic, I guess. Thank you, Sharpening Wizard.

[@rockets4kids]

Unfortunately, a knife reground to 8 thou BTE isn't going to sharpen anything at all like the way it came from the factory. It is much easier and much faster to sharpen a knife that has been re-ground nice and thin like this.

[@Marc-Vickers]

Your videos have been a pleasure to watch. Been watching since the pandemic began. You seem very genuine and I appreciate your work.

[@fredsanford336]

Thank you for your videos. I have watched so many KZbin channels to try and learn how to get better at sharpening and for some reason I just understand so much more from your explanations and instructions than anyone else. We all learn differently and sometimes one person just might make more sense to you. And you are that person that has helped me.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Awesome! Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment, Its good to hear what I am doing is serving a purpose. Thanks again 🙏👊

[@aksalaman4689]

Thanks for the longer video, I enjoyed it.

[@Arrowhacked]

Definitely enjoy this style of video more, even if longer than shorter ones without all the steps. Thanks for the insight.

[@gregmccormack5709]

Watching techniques in a full sharpening vid is always great stuff. Cheers!

[@zzemi99]

Thank you so much for this video. This is the power of Internet (KZbin) community. I from Europe, can learn from you from North America. I am so grateful for that. I bought Spyderco Ceramic Medium stone, Work Sharp sharpener with fine and coarse Diamond stone, because I think that your sharpening system is the best for all around knifes, axes, scissors... Best regards from Belgrade.

[@mrcpu9999]

I wouldn't sweat the length. It was very enjoyable, and I learned stuff, and that's why I watch. Your style reminds me of ToT, another favorite that kind of "tells a story" while he does his thing. Keep up the great content.

[@kuldar.]

Love your videos, absolutely #1 sharpening channel on YT! Regards from Estonia

[@Ratchman_5000]

I have the Manix 2 blurple S110V and out of all the varieties of blades I own, it has been the hardest to get a razor sharp edge. I just received a dmt 600 grit stone and I'm gonna give it my best.

[@bokusimondesu]

Great video! I could watch you sharpen for half an hour most every other day. 😊 The sudden and big temperature shifts are getting too common. Also, it being mid November and having garden flowers in bloom (I’m in Denmark) is really unsettling. While the normal gradual seasonal changes are getting abrupt, there still is no consistency any more.

[@apocalypseforge2666]

YAY! He lives!

[@tombrown4683]

I was one of the ones asking for this kind of video. Watched some the day it posted but didn't have time to watch the entire video. So back today for the full 26 odd minutes. Thank You for doing it. I found your talking while sharpening provided some great insight into the process. Yeah normally don't favor long form videos - but this was worth it !!! Surprising I don't like long videos considering the length of my comments - LOL 😂!

[@W.Y.W.H.40]

That's exactly what I've been telling people, with these stones, you have no mess to clean up, no losing time because you had to let it soak, no having to dry everything from spilled or splashed water, etc. I believe that the stones we get from Spyderco and the diamond stones are the best, and really all you need. I love mine and would not trade or sell them for anything. I do not own a wet stone because of the mess they make. I believe I'll just go with what I know...no mess. Great videos, I've seen them all.

[@mikafoxx2717]

He's made me change my mind and buy some diamond stone and strop paste. Gone are the days of freezing my fingers off sharpening friend's knives while camping.

[@fernandochavezlopez6273]

Thank u mate u a legend. i allways enjoy ur vids and i've noticed that i have improved My sharpening skills thanks to You.

[@jez76]

Great work. Nice to see your work shop looking good.

[@richardf9137]

I enjoy watching hand sharpening! Thanks.

[@billmanning8806]

Good rambling. Helpful for me...

[@brianlocal3]

11:38 I’m not some people lol I feel ya. Cbn/diamond stones are game changers Make sharpening a breeze

[@toolittletoolate1656]

Thank you for these great videos finally got my knife sharp

[@blake_229]

Been subscribed for awhile now. Really trying to up my knife sharpening skill and bought a Spyderco bench stone medium and fine and a strop. Thanks for all the content and hard work.

[@johnnyshell2839]

I got a set of aluminum oxide stones for my tools and fishing stuff. I want to get some really good ones for my pocket knives just haven't gotten around to getting them. Really want to get that wicked sharp system.

[@shofarox4037]

GREAT video as always. You know what... let me propose you a topic for next video. There are a lot of videos about sharpening clipper timer blades, some uses sand paper, others the rotating steel plate... but no one using that close up technology to cheq which method it's better... Sooo... What about you doing a video about that... Thanks so far and cheers... Martin from Argentina🇦🇷 by the way...

[@gustafson74may]

Dressing like 40 degrees is cold.... kinda funny 😁 love your stuff though. Keep up the good work!!!!!

[@juliansyjuco9695]

Loved this video, man! Super helpful! Thank you!! 😊

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Brilliant...

[@victoriaevelyn3953]

i agree ive had enough of using those water stones im wanting to get a proper diamond stone so much less hassle and a lot less mess

[@RoryMacdonald-pfff]

Terrific video - brought to you by aluminium oxide. Seriously, loved it.

[@sharpwhits0167]

I picked up one of those cbn plates pretty quickly after they came out. It cuts as efficient as any diamond plate I own.

[@arizflash]

I've bought a coup!e of your straps and some diamond paste. I seem to remember at that time you were selling horse leather. I love the straps for finishing the edge on my EDCs and kitchen knives.

[@exbon]

26:26 super 👍 salam kenal dari Indonesia 🙏🇮🇩

[@agentcovert]

Great video tutorial..but what about the house remodeling project ? You left us hanging..

[@user-pm7pw1tl3t]

That spider whas a tiny robot from spiderco to get all the juicy new sharpening tips!

[@reidycruise]

As long as it spreads butter it can do everything I need it to lol I’ve got a razor for cutting myself and a axe for splitting oh and that saw loves a bit x

[@wades623]

I've had 3 of those CBN stones, one I bought from a seller and 2 from Spyderco. The first one wasn't flat so I warrantied it then the replacement had a nic/chip on the edge right out of the package and sent that back and the one they sent me for that one wasn't flat again. All of these had issues right out of the package and haven't been too happy with them

[@OUTDOORS55]

Thanks for the feedback. Mine was bought right after the came out. It seems to be fine but can't comment on the quality since. Thanks for the info 👍

[@wades623]

@@OUTDOORS55 they were all band new right out of the package so I don't know what the deal is. I've almost thought of driving to golden to make sure they warranty it with one that I don't have to guess if it's going to be good or not.

[@OUTDOORS55]

I believe they were being made in China, and they were introduced during the pandemic so that may have something to do with it😬

[@theodorosmalliopoulos7231]

@@OUTDOORS55 hello. Their cbn plates are indeed made in China. For Spyderco double stuff 2, the cbn side is also made in China and the ceramic in the US. I have confirmed that with one of their dealers. To be honest, i too have found Spyderco ceramics to come with high spots out of the box. On the contrary, Fällkniven dc5 and cc4 come perfectly flat. I have no experience with Atoma plates, but the research i have done showed they too come flat. DMTs are also a gamble. I had a coarse one that came without diamonds in 2 spots.

[@wades623]

@@OUTDOORS55 I still had the cardboard it came in, checked it and it was definitely made in china

[@mladenvojinovic]

We want more, we want more, give us more 🙂

[@courier11sec]

I died instantly when you drug that blade at a 90 degree angle and now someone needs to feed my cats.

[@MartinPaulsen87]

Thanks for sharing. Your insight is valued.

[@pedro3655]

Vraiment tu as de super explications, il n'y a pas que l'angle, mais aussi la forme du triangle de coupe et.... Arf my english is poor i don t enderstand evrything... But with subs titers i can take some informations... Thx for this bb 👍👍

[@wildbillmiller614]

I've been wanting to get into hand sharpening so this should be a good video

[@jeffhicks8428]

I wonder how the grit ratings work on these stones? plates? I know on the DMT plates they leave equal depth scratches regardless of stated grit ratings meaning the 325 seems to leave the best edges of any, and also ironically remove the least material. This is why bonded stones are so preferred, they just produce finer and higher quality edges. Diamond powder is great though, I like it on wood. Gotta play around with water or oil or solvents to see what works best for a given strop substrate.

[@joeynanez9897]

Thanks brother for teaching

[@Wardcreek]

Hello, I’m new to sharpening and I’m just looking for a stone to keep my Bokar knife sharp! It’s Prime Day so I really need you to tell me what to get that’s good and somewhat cheap! Tia you rock

[@mikafoxx2717]

I know murray carter used to like the aluminum oxide stones, but changed his mind later on. Said they work just as well if you're good at it, but speed and efficiency is just not there.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Coolness.

[@qracer1555]

Love the content! Keep it up 👍

[@setonsun5315]

Do you sharpen your kitchen knives like this? Wondering about your angles and techniques for something like a chef knife.

[@asherrose6594]

Oh and what's the best leather and side to use? I have vegetable tanned

[@Layarion]

hey could you make a video reviewing those knife sharpener stones that sit on long metal sticks and something else holds the knife in place so that you don't have to worry about the angle. i'm thinking about buying one for sharpening my cheap kitchen knives. which are so dull, that i can confidentially swipe them across my finger and not worry about it.

[@DrivelineMaster]

You mentioned the rule of thumb for your sharpening angel. What is that rule of thumb? Could you add a link for the strop and the diamond compound?

[@jimbusmaximus4624]

I know this was long ago... But I remember him explaining putting your thumb on the stone and putting the back of the knife into the same spot to hold the same angle.

[@macmccartney5760]

You should take a Rockwell of that s110v . I have the blurple pm2 in s110v . I've always wondered how hard it is,

[@asherrose6594]

I would suggest the work sharp bench stone knife sharpener or work sharp precision adjust, not saying the dmt is bad at all

[@asherrose6594]

@Outdoors55. For who?

[@ImOnTheEdge]

I still have to finish the video, but a couple of comments. I hand sharpened for years but only recently really learned how to do it correctly. Well, mostly. I've been using the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust for about a month but still feel like I am missing something. Knives are sharp but could be sharper I think. I can get sharper with the diamond DMT sharpener. I tried the Ken Onion sharpener also from Work Sharp but returned it, not confident that it was doing much better. Thinking of ordering the 3 UltraSharp stones in the set for grins. I've duly noted about achieving the burr but until now, I thought that it was needed for each stage of sharpening. Not so? Also, how important is it t maintain the same direction while sharpening? Thanks!

[@OUTDOORS55]

Sorry missed this! I'm not sure what you mean "same direction"?

[@ImOnTheEdge]

@@OUTDOORS55 No problem. The bottom line is that you should try to maintain the scratch pattern in the same direction and avoid crossing the scratch pattern, at least as I understand it now. In short, consistency with how you are sharpening seems to be more important than I first realized. You shouldn't sharpen from 4:00 to 10:00, then change to 7:00 to 1:00, if that makes sense.

[@supersymun]

Awesome content as always! Been seeing a few people with this string weight sharpness tester? Wonder if that’s in the cards for you? You ARE at a whole other level, but it would be cool to see just how much.

[@davidtritsch4532]

Another great video. I wonder what your thoughts are of micro bevels for kitchen or edc knives.

[@xade7863]

Could u show how to sharpen a knife on a puck style stone?

[@Huero87]

7-8 thou is perfect for an edc knife, maybe S110V just isn’t the best candidate. I have 2 blades that thin in K390 and the new Endela in PD1 steel and it holds up like a champ. Several years ago I had the same manix 2 at stock geometry and a buddy of mine managed to put a massive chip in it as well.

[@Aerzon1v1]

You had them thinned or they come that thin?

[@stevekushman3030]

👍👊 Nice video.

[@thiago.assumpcao]

6 micron diamond strop seems like a much better option for a general purpose knife than Chromium oxide. Overstropping can be an issue causing foil burr. I never tried plates. Aluminum oxide stones come in many formats. There are soft soaking stones exactly as you said but also some extra hard soaking stones that barely release abrasive and also Splash and go stones. I also dislike extra soft stones. Science of Sharp has two studies showing diamond plates factures vanadium carbides. Aluminum oxide stones make a clean cut on these carbides. It's possible broken carbides may work as fracture points and weaken the edge but I don't know any further studies on the topic with actual durability tests so it's hard to guess how much practical impact this has.

[@Aerzon1v1]

Aluminum oxide doesn't cut vanadium carbides at all. That's the whole problem. Look at some microscopic pictures of a high carbide content steel sharpened with diamond abrasives vs one sharpened with AlOx. The diamond example is far more crisp and clean because it can actually cut and shape those carbides rather than just cutting the steel matrix around them.

[@thiago.assumpcao]

@@Aerzon1v1 Most people say that and it makes a lot of sense so it's quite convincing but there are no images to back it up. Science of Sharp has electron microscopy images showing clean cut carbides on Al Ox stones. Since Vanadium carbides are harder than Al Ox I don't know how that happens but the fact is that it does.

[@cranmerparish1276]

Do you always need to reestablish a burr when sharpening a knife? What if I have a decent working edge but want to get it back to hair whittling Sharp using a 3000-5000 grit stone.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

I do think you can potentially get away with a thinness this thin. Just not with a steel like s110v. Something like 4v, or magnacut might be able to handle that a bit better. Something with a little less carbide volume. Though it's still definitely super thin for an edc style knife.

[@saintofchelseathomascarlyl5713]

love the video!

[@hdrider2071]

Yep sharpening a spyderco knife on spyderco stone makes baby spiders. I thought everyone knew that 😆

[@armencarpenter7492]

Spraying windex on the stone "floats" the filings away frome the diamond grit and keeps it cutting. It also quiets the sound.

[@bigmikeg84]

I have this knife and been nervous about putting it to a stone since I'm still learning. Came more then sharp enough from the factory so only been doing light touch ups on leather.

[@kevinsorensen367]

It's pricey, but I'd totally recommend the KME diamond stone system. It's going to last me a lifetime, but takes away my hesitancy with holding the angle just right

[@autumn5592]

Why? Just take it, or something else to the stone, get the time in. If you procrastinate or are scared of damaging it, you will never want to, or improve.

[@Picklelove64]

I love your videos keep up the good work

[@zram4x4]

Amazon has a spyderco delica 4 plastic knife hit. I'm curious to see if you can sharpen it enough to cut paper.

[@kevinsorensen367]

What I'd really like to know is if it's worth it to sharpen to something like 1000+ grit on an edc knife. How long do those extra steps last? You seem to like doing tests, have a microscope, and a KZbin channel 😅. I do appreciate your videos taking the mysticism out of knives and sharpening!

[@OUTDOORS55]

I think it depends on the person. I don't bother with mine. 🙂👍

[@autumn5592]

Personally, I don't -- seems pretty pointless, because you're not going to need ultra fine edges like that for a working knife. I use 220 grit on my EDCs, then strop on black compound (2,500 grit.) Does everything I need it to do. High grit edges also experience less edge retention. Something around 600-800 grit is more than plenty. And at higher/finer grits, apex thickness doesn't really change, so you can't really get much 'sharper' from edge finish. Things like edge angle and blade thickness matter significantly more.

[@aimansyahmidzulkhairy909]

I recently bought a mora robust to use for my work and hobby. It works great but I am having a hard time figuring how to sharpen a scandi grind. Maybe you can make videos like these with other blades that had different designs. It would certainly help.

[@metallican2295]

I have 2 moras that I keep hair whittling sharp, all I do is lay the knife completely flat on the stone and raise the angle until I feel the knife kinda "stop" on the correct angle. Once I have the angle I use one hand on the blade to guide the blade and keep it from convexing my edge and one hand to push the knife. You may not be able to get a perfectly flat grind by hand but over time you get better at it. Even if you accidentally mess it up you can always fix it 😊

[@lukeunderhill9810]

Hey Alex I've bought multiple things watching your videos and am wondering what diamond compounds you use.

[@nayeckveer7286]

can you make a simple machete from leaf spring?

[@asherrose6594]

I was wondering what the technique is with using a strop, is there a certain amount of passes for every knife or does the stropping compound have to do with it?

[@MrHipeople111]

What do you think about lapping fluid?

[@normcleod360]

Didn't so much watch as listened while sharpening my own blade. Put me in that ZEN place where I need to be while I hone my skills. A co-worker was checking out my Kershaw, Endgame for the second time. First time, factory sharp, second time, Me sharp. Placed it at an angle on his arm and removed a 1 inch by 1 inch strip of hair in one swipe. And he's one hairy MOFO. Really stood out. "Well, it'll remove hair..", he said as he closed it up, and handed it back.

[@e.t.preppin7084]

Do you know if edge pro makes diamond stones or ones like you are using now?

[@ciderandthorazine]

@Outdoors55 as someone who does work in cold-ass conditions, do you have an opinion on what a good skull-cap should be made out of? i see acrylic and polyester are cheap, and super-insulating - but not breathable when the wearer is active. i imagine pure cotton's a solid middle-ground? do you think it's worth stumping up the extra coin for something like merino wool?

[@OUTDOORS55]

I dont like merino. For very cold weather I like double layer fleece. Its not for everyone though 🙂

[@ChefMercenary]

What do you think about naniwa chosera stones? And what about Shapton? And I prefer to use water stones, but just these. I prefer the water stones because I feel it is a lot more fun as well as being able to put a beautiful convex edge on most of my knives if not all.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Im not a fan of any water or oil stones. Just personal preference, too messy and time consuming.

[@ChefMercenary]

@@OUTDOORS55 understandable, thanks for replying :)

[@kantrikoboy]

i have a gerber s30v auto knife but the blade is too soft, it can not cut a simple wood, what would you recommend?

[@allroaddaily]

How to put nice toothy edge? I have S90V that feels sharp but doesn’t bite much

[@docgonzo3517]

appreciate the video but diamond followed by cbn is more sensitive to pressure issues than alox and resin bound stones. I believe someone like Larrin clarified that not too long back but I'd heard similar back when Cliff Stamp was still alive in discussions around it. IIRC it fractures the diamond due to brittleness and changes the grit rating and they really don't need pressure, more lighter passes is the correct technique. CBN is much tougher thus I like it as don't need to go as easy on the pass weight but plenty hard enough to deal with high carbide wear resistant steels. Problems from over pressure on resin bound chromeox and alox stones is more to do with burnishing and dishing the stones quickly but at least you can fix it where as pressure on dmt and the like trashes the stone and you need to buy new. I learned that the hard way myself starting years back with too much pressure although the stones still work so I kept them, just not consistent grit and not as intended so avoided pressure on my newer plates/stones.

[@OUTDOORS55]

After doing my own testing and making my own diamond plated stones id disagree. Its actually very difficult to break down diamonds that are well adheared in the nickel coat. Although grit does play a role. As well as nickel thickness and the type of diamond that is used. Its a somewhat difficult subject to discuss in a KZbin comment due to all the variables. Medium preis fine with a quality stone. Wont hurt a thing. Appreciate the feedback 👍

[@docgonzo3517]

@@OUTDOORS55 total agreement on difficult to thrash out via youtube comments due to so many variables. Compounding issues with the vagueness of many definitions such as what folks consider light pressure and so on doesn't help matters.

[@pinarppanrapir9489]

Just a question. Say you do a zero grind (no microbevel), where should I check the thickness behind the edge? Is there a set distance from the edge people agreed on?

[@Monster18873]

I´ve got a great idea... Comparsion of Atoma Diamondplates, DMT , the CBN an the Venev (Venev also have diamond compound for a good price. Sounds great? 😅 (fingers cross)

[@UnderbeIIy]

Is aluminum oxide stone a whetstone?

[@mikemontoya2367]

Hi Alex, are you still selling strops? If so please let me know. Been watching your videos sense your first knife.

[@charlesw665]

How do deal with the ricasso wanting to run into the stone when sharpening that last bit of the edge?

[@buffalojones341]

Have you tested the hardness of s110v?

[@FuKuNPVT]

i would love a video of you just sharping a complete dull blade in silence to show how fast it can be done and have a rang or test to show how sharp it is. test like printer paper or newpaper drop cut test by folding a paper in half standing it up and cutting down the middle thats the test i do. also grat work i like your vids love the last vid with thinner blade and what that dose

[@OUTDOORS55]

I have an older video where I did just that. If I remember correctly it took me 90seconds.🙂

[@FuKuNPVT]

@@OUTDOORS55 oh really i wounder what teh name of the vid was i bet i watch it just forgot well thats gona be hard to fined but you should defiantly do the standing paper test its fun and a cool visual to show how sharp knifes are

[@jonnyboat2]

Can you give me a link to the video you posted a few years ago where you used 3m auto body sandpaper that has the foam backing to sharpen or strop a knife? I can't find it. I want to link it to a comment I want to post on Survival Lilly's channel where she currently is posting a video using a homemade equivalent to that foam backed 3m sandpaper. She's using it to sharpen a convex blade.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Ive never made a video where I sharpen on sandpaper. It must have been someone else.

[@zram4x4]

I just cut my finger a few minutes ago with my spyderco delica 😂 doesn't take much when they are spicy.

[@autumn5592]

I don't agree with your statement about Chromium Oxide strops. My ones last a few months, of daily stropping, at least. I usually change it every 4-6 months. Sure the cutting performance degrades but it's not nearly as bad as you said. But I do put the compound on quite heavy, and I do occasionally briskly rub the surface to remove the load up. So maybe that makes a difference.

[@OUTDOORS55]

Yeah it definitely depends on how much you apply, and how much its used. 👍

[@andrewb8548]

Any stone that can be used dry cuts twice as fast with about 6 drops of water. Spyderco ceramic, DMT, etc.

[@OUTDOORS55]

I disagree. I can sharpen in 60 seconds. 50% fastis a bold claim

[@DeepDarkSamurai]

I would really like to see how someone with as much skill in sharpening steel as you do, in sharpening a bronze knife or sword

[@barnapozsgai5619]

Hi! Can someone help me?: I have a spyderco dragonfly salt 2 and the edge is slightly chipped in a small part, I have no much experience in sharpening and I don't know which grit would be suitable for the repair. Because h1 very soft and I fear that too coarse stone maybe spoil the edge. Thanks the answers!

[@metallican2295]

You can use coarse stones. They will take much less time to fix the blade. Unless you are using like 80 grit sandpaper it won't ruin the edge. If you use a higher grit stone to fix it you will take muuuuuch longer to fix the chip which in my experience makes it easier to use the wrong angle on accident. I've found the best is around 200 to 300 for fixing the edge, then around 800-1000 grit to get a good sharp edge. If you want to stop there you can, the tool will be very sharp at 1000 grit, but a leather strop with some honing compound will take off any left over metals on the edge of the blade for very clean cuts and even shaving.

[@barnapozsgai5619]

@@metallican2295 Lifesaving answer, thanks you very much!