Real vs Fake UNITY Fast Mount

[@southernstyle8835]

People go for the fake one to not pay $200 for a little piece of aluminum

[@truenation9890]

Right it’s just that simple

[@brandonshepherd3317]

That fake one isn't exactly "fake" its a unity branded airsoft version. Its liscened under unity tactical for airsoft use. Thats why the cage codes are different and why it seems all around more "cheap" because it is. But unity still gets their cut

[@ChevTecGroup]

What about the ones on aliexpress? I doubt they are getting a cut from that

[@eastcoastflooring4624]

The PTS syndicate version is licensed I’m not sure what other brands but some of them are really good they have the locking lug at the top For the arctic and one at the bottom for the Picatinny

[@Planked]

It’s a fake due to the lug nut on the bottom, the air soft version does not have that

[@KaffiRawr]

*NO. Unity does 100% not get a cut.* China can and will produce and sell without giving a cut. China fakes brand names and serial numbers all the time.

[@KeeepTV]

only the PTS Version is licensed, and PTS "for Airsoft use only" if written all over the bottom, this one is just a cheap chinese knock-off. They dont get a share from that.

[@adiaz856]

The one I recently purchased doesn't have the unity logo on the right of the mount. Is it possible I have a fake one? Or did they remove the logo in the newer models?

[@eastcoastflooring4624]

I have a couple of them and use the steel back plate and screws from my real ones because I run the ADM qd lever. I don’t care about the anodizing because I bead blasted and cerakoted Them they’re cut from aluminum block just like the real one I’ve already gave unity Around 350 for two and I got two of these for less than 50 running aim point on the real ones holosun on the fakes I’ve had zero issues of course I’m running the real steel back plate and screws they’re really good for what they are I hate they’re from China but What are you gonna do the price point on the real one needs to come down drastically Originally bought them for airsoft rifles and the quality of what it is it is tough as nails. great video bro

[@Mills141]

Love the judgment on fake stuff with the cheap gas station knife, and Sig's copy red dot... 🙈

[@dejuanballard3367]

Facts

[@missionspec]

Romeo5 is a legit weapon site. Not sure what you mean. Unless you think any red dot that isn't an aimpoint to be a knockoff. The two cannot be confused. So, not a knockoff. I used the cheaper knife as to not unnecessary dull my nicer knife. Seemed like the right move.

[@bombink1968]

Gerber Paraframe is better than Paki. I've carried them alongside of Emerson, Striders, Microtech, Fox etc into deployments. I always gave away the cheaper knives to locals and those who served for the nationals we were bedded down with. Unless they were flat out amazing...then I'd give both away at the end.

[@dvyting]

Correct me if I’m wrong but neither the red dot or the knife is a “fake”

[@CheekRunner]

@@dvytingcame from the same place as the fake mount

[@dionysis84]

Anyone know what type and size screws for mounting a t1 to one of these? Got a deal on a used one and it came with the rail mount screws but nothing to mount the t1 and the original t1 mount screws are way to long

[@Statikleoscamming]

Bought a fake one ain’t paying no 200 bucks for mount

[@missionspec]

Of course that is your prerogative.

[@drewhiphop]

Exactly. seen how their all made from Chinese parts. It kills me how some Americans talk down on goods made in China when they make 90% of our antibiotics that we use in America

[@GustavoHernandez-yt6ss]

Fun fact. Because of grammatical laws, it would appear you indeed payed $200 for the mount.

[@Statikleoscamming]

@@GustavoHernandez-yt6ss fun fact your gay

[@gorillaump5869]

Don't knock chinese quality and innovation - they mass produce the best drones on the market at affordable prices.

[@shellfish5078]

Can you do a real vs fake on the scalarworks leap Qd mount for t1 t2 h1 red dot sights?

[@missionspec]

I haven't come across a fake scalarworks yet. Are they out there?

[@NoobMaister6]

@@missionspec plenty on aliexpress. you can also find MRO and RMR leap mounts on ali

[@Mexicannasa]

I feel like buying the Chinese one if you want to try the high mount concept. That way if you aren't into it you are not out 200 dollars. If you do like it upgrade to the real deal, because the fake will in all likelihood fail in short order.

[@missionspec]

I can understand that line of thinking.

[@l337l0gan]

If you buy a legit unity branded product, it will hold resale value quite well. I would argue you're better off buying actual unity, if you don't like it , sell it second hand. You'll lose less than the cost of a knockoff. Doubtful you'll sell a knockoff unless you use trickery on someone.

[@IkfNorCalChamp]

That’s what I did. I bought both a unity and scalarworks knock offs. I liked the 1.93 better so bought the real scalarworks leap. Sold the 2 knock offs on Reddit letting people know they are knock offs and that they are just to get a reference. Sold both for dam near what I bought them for.

[@IMABEAST191]

Dude I bought a fake one and ended up keeping it on my rifle it works and looks exactly the same along with the built in peep holes sight it’s been great so far.

[@josephjeveryman]

​@@l337l0gan I don't know, man. Fad mods like these *might* hold resale value, but when that fad passes no one will want it. I think the vast majority of people aren't throwing their guns off 2 story buildings and banging them in humvee doors. 30 bucks for a cool new thing isn't bad. And if it isn't up to par then oh well.

[@chrishowie7400]

Well I purchased 2 one green one tan, the green is WAY nicer then the tan in every way. Smooth edges, a couple centimeters shorter. Biggest difference is a raised sqaure shape in the middle of the riser. That keeps my romeo5 from securing flush. I suspect romeo5 are supposed to have a cut out to fit that short sqaure shape. If my green is fake as well its miles better then my tan version. Id like to use the green from the get go. I assume that sqaure shape is to assure a more secure locked in position added with the screws. Anyone know about this?

[@navyvet886]

Does it hold your zero. At the end of the day I think that’s the only debate

[@Mark_Adams]

Those mounts are over-priced anyways.

[@royayers276]

Severely overpriced

[@snoble1981]

I have heard the bottom is different where it sits on the Pic rail.

[@Charsept]

So if I don't intend to shoot with a mask or night vision/lasers, is there any point to this mount? Am I hurting my delta between zeros or something because of the increased height over bore?

[@missionspec]

If no mask and no NOD then you are eliminating the 2 largest advantages to a optics mount like this. But some people still like the upright shooting posture that something like the Unity FAST will provide. Ultimately it is up to you. If it doesn't make sense for you then it doesn't make sense. Thanks!

[@5jjt]

Biggest difference is the screws they use. I wonder how much difference in strength of the unit's aluminum there is?

[@Snougaloogie]

Unity will mail you screws and other mounting hardware free if you email them.

[@TheDagger17]

the real one uses 7000 series Aluminum thats harder and less likely to bend. the Licensed one uses 6000 series Aluminum that is slightly softer and would deform easier if dropped...

[@trueblue9101]

Link to the copy?

[@kickmcmelon18]

Maybe if it wasn't 300 dollars for a 3x3 piece of metal people would buy it..

[@missionspec]

I don't think they are having sales problems.

[@vaughnsadekni665]

​@@missionspec doesnt take away from the fact that they are overpriced. Alot of lucrative business in the firearms industry

[@missionspec]

@@vaughnsadekni665 From your point of view. But you have no idea what the expenses are to run UNITY. Paying the engineers, the machinists, all the people that don't actually have anything to do with making the product (customer service, sales, janitors, etc), prototyping, employee insurance, 401k contribution, property insurance, liability & casualty insurance, unemployment insurance, rent/mortgage on the building(s), electricity to run everything, payments on equipment, and then... TAXES. MASSIVE taxes that must be paid. It isn't one guy in his garage pocketing $300 for a piece of aluminum. But when you buy it from a Chinese company they just skip most of that. I'm not saying you can't buy it from China for cheaper. Do what you want. But you have no standing to say they are overpriced if you don't know the expense that goes into it. Just my opinion.

[@BenCody630]

@@missionspec I'm aware of many companies that do similar stuff to unity and there are companies out there that have been doing what unity is doing for longer, a tall optic mount with an integrated iron sight with too short of a sight radius to be functional isn't super innovative. To be frank Unity's prices have gone way up mainly due to sometimes unwarranted hype, the amount of people that buy unity mounts because its a unity mount is pretty high. I see them at public ranges all the time with shooters who would've been better served by buying more ammo to train with than buying a $205 mount. Unity these days is pretty comparable to arc'tyrex combat clothes which really is just the crye g-3's but over-engineered, there is nothing really special about them except the hype-beast dinosaur logo, the multicam is still cut from the same NIR multicam fabric as a $30 5.11 hat. In a couple years some social media "influencer" will flash his pieace with a brand new "innovative" optic solution and unity prices will most likely fall as they are forgotten... just my perspective

[@missionspec]

@@BenCody630 I'm not really sure of your point. What you are describing is simply the market as it relates to marketing. You can choose to participate or don't regarding a specific product. I think it is important to remember that in a free market society all transactions are voluntary and they only happen when both sides feel they are getting value. The buy thinks the object is worth paying their money for. The seller thinks that the money he is getting is worth his time and effort that he put into it. If both parties didn't feel that way then the transaction wouldn't happen. This goes for all purchases you are not compelled (forced) to make.

[@KD-bk7gd]

FWIW there was a guy on another video who has been heavy fighting in Ukraine for over a year with his fake Unity mount lol.

[@lance9150]

It's so over for these price gouger "battle proven" brands, after seeing so many Holosuns and such in Ukraine. It's over, we aren't paying extra for the same stuff.

[@KD-bk7gd]

@@lance9150 fwiw I put a fake on my full auto and the only weakness is the crappy bolts on the bottom of the mount. I’m sure they’d be fine, but I just got the American Defense QD for like $40 and now this thing would survive going to hell and back. There is NO REASON to pay $200+ for the real one.

[@ThePanama]

I have, what I believe to be, a fake one for airsoft and it has the same cage number as your legit one.

[@gtcam723]

I opted for a clone each of the Unity and Scalarworks just to see which height I like better.

[@teknotronik711]

Let me know what you think

[@gtcam723]

@@teknotronik711 if I can remember my way back here lol

[@missionspec]

So what did you decide? Ample testing time now ;)

[@gtcam723]

@@missionspec the Unity clone is decent. Considered having it hardness tested at work to see if I could figure out the alloy and hardness but decided that might get me in trouble. The Scalar Works clone however is marginal at best

[@z0diak08]

durability test of the 2?

[@devilmanable]

I been using a clone for almost 2 years..I have my own range ..other than finish wearing no issues

[@z0diak08]

@@devilmanable for sure, their height is 2.25 right?

[@devilmanable]

@@z0diak08 mine was I measured it when I got it to see and check the differences..I have a sig mounted to it

[@TheDagger17]

the fake one is a Licensed by Unity Tactical product. Only difference is the Aluminum used. So buying the fake one some of the money does still go to Unity.

[@kmagrizz]

Didn’t see a top recoil lug for the optic on the knock off

[@justsomemincedgarlic]

10000% recommend getting the QD lever for your real fast mount. Its super high quality, and even if you don’t use it often its still a great feature to have on an optic

[@Apollo-tj1vm]

What's the point of QD on an optic even?

[@justsomemincedgarlic]

@@Apollo-tj1vm in my mind, if the optic breaks its easy to get off quickly. But really its fucking cool to shoot a group, pull the optic off, put it back on and then shoot the same group.

[@snoble1981]

@@justsomemincedgarlic I had considered it but the QD options are designed for optics that can't have backup irons. In this case the back up irons are built in to mount so you wouldn't need to QD it. Just my two cents as a guy who uses a lot of optics and mounts including ones that are QD. If you like the look or like to switch optics between guns alot and want to make that quicker and easier then its a great option.

[@solidjohnny49]

The fake mount places the optic a tiny bit higher than the real one.

[@dejuanballard3367]

How much different is a "tiny bit"

[@not_your_business666]

the sight doesn't fit flush becayse the groove where the sight must be embedded is not wide enough, so basically there is like 0'7mm gap between the base of the sight and top of the mount

[@auschris9296]

they come from aliexpress theyre super good for the money for airsoft theyre aluminum...its fine

[@_JEBUS]

If it hold zero which it probably will with some loctite its not a bad deal really. The fakes usually have a cheaper finish and the machining not as precise.

[@missionspec]

And made my near-slave labor.

[@vfib90]

Everything in your house made overseas is probably made with slave labor bud

[@keysfisher7570]

Wait, theres a front sight as well inside the real unity mount? Did you install that or it came with both the back and front sight?

[@reliablethreat23]

It comes with both. The rear sight comes already attached and the front sight post is included in the box for you to install if you so choose to.

[@johnviera3884]

The real one is at Scalarworks

[@auschris9296]

the repro stuff is big for airsoft users to use, on o ur replica guns thats more what these are meant for.

[@nitrocell9287]

Ill support the company when they stop trying to take complete advantage of their customers. They don't care about their customers, they just care about how many they have. when a clone costs $40 and the real one costs $500 and the only difference is a logo lasered on rather than painted Im sorry but nope. Ill support the clone so that the next time they clone something they can do it better ;)

[@missionspec]

Except that you are forgetting that the company who R&D'd the product probably spent several million dollars in man hours along to do so. Being made in the USA it also isn't made by slave-labor or near slave-labor. The company that just took their design and remade it didn't have to do any design. I know we all like cheaper things but to say UNITY doesn't Carr about this customers is a flawed argument, I think.

[@evanacey1414]

You do realize that genuine Unity products are CNC machined from 7075 T6 billet aluminum, which has something to the effect of a 60% increase in tensile strength over 6061 aluminum, which I believe is what the actual licensed airsoft replicas (PTS) are made from. These ones you see all over ebay for $20 are probably made of either some shitty zinc alloy (aka pot metal) or melted down aluminum cans that are then cast molded and finish machined by some kid in a Chinese sweat shop. If that’s the kind of “quality” you want to trust your life to, then have at it hoss… Just know that the way in which the logo is applied to the product is FAR from the only difference between the two, and that every time you buy a cheap, fake, unlicensed Chinese version of a genuine USA made product you are directly supporting the evil AF Chinese communist party who by allowing the manufacture and sale of these counterfeit goods they are literally stealing from the American company who owns that IP.

[@Andrew85or]

I highly doubt it was several million dollars, and if so, they're incredibly mismanaged.

[@glee0425]

if it works, it works

[@sean7908]

Other than the cosmetic what are the real differences? Also anodizing does not have any depth. Please use industry standardized method of measurement instead of passing you so called expert opinion. What is your professional background anyway? As the expert panel of one, what is your credentials?

[@dejuanballard3367]

There aren't any.

[@driftinaz3158]

the biggest difference is the raised square that is located on the top of the mount in between the 4 mounting screw holes and the cheap screws that hold it to the rail

[@MasterChief773]

*are

[@johndoe69420]

Some tolerances are odd like the ironsights (I’d recommend removing them off the clone since they’re not going to hold zero) and you may or may not have difficulties with the micro interface depending on the optic you’re using

[@bombink1968]

ARE your credentials? What ARE yours to determine what a stranger should employ in offering a casual opinion? Settle down a bit...I dont think he hunted you down to demand your time to be assaulted. Tho he may not have set out to hurt you emotionally, clearly your feels are danger close to the surface. My goodness, the irony of non experts upset with freedoms of someone not claiming to be an expert.

[@chuckst98]

The problem is what most of us know and that is the real mount is like $200plus and a lot of people just don’t want to spend that much on a mount!!

[@BiSFeralDruid]

Honestly I would never trust replica optics, but i've used one of these replica mounts for about 500 rounds and it hasn't budged a bit.

[@vfib90]

This is the comment I was looking for, optic’s probably don’t hold zero, but I’d imagine a machined piece of metal ought to be able to do the same thing as the “real one”

[@missionspec]

The replicas in this world certainly are better than they use to be. That's for sure.

[@jaymurray7344]

Put a magnet on it. You will find it is steel not aluminum. I live in Asia. Aluminum is very expensive. USA imports all there aluminum from. You guessed it. It's not anodized because you can't anodize steel. But you are getting a very good product.

[@claisolais]

FYI, other than the PTS version, there are different tiers of clones. This applies to most of the items that have a clone replica. Some higher tier clones can be as good as the real ones in terms of look. They wrent really meant to be sold as real one initially, but Im sure some will blend in eventually. I guess dont trust ebay on those kind of things.

[@recon1986]

Maybe the company shouldn't be price gouging american citizens just because of the "name" same with crye, mystery ranch etc... they think it's ok to mark their prices up 100s of dollars just because they have military contracts

[@jerryv9962]

What red dot is that bro.

[@missionspec]

That is a Sig Romeo 5.

[@jerryv9962]

@@missionspec thanks

[@canaantravis]

But does it hold zero… all I care about

[@LyleH-13]

I know it's mounted but you should have weighed the two.

[@missionspec]

Good idea.

[@paullee9160]

money into research? what do you think unity has done in terms of research? figure out where to cut?(aesthetics mostly?). it is not fake if they are paying loyalty. also, the design itself is probably not patented. that is worth 120$ more per unit? anyways.. the question is.. does it hold zero? what material is made of? 6061 is cheap.. so i would imagine it is 6061, which is perfectly fine for a mount. i noticed some on amazon without the branding. i use ADM, MI, UTG, AERO mounts on my guns.. i see absolutely no difference between the cheap ones vs more expensive ones other than aesthetics. UTG mount is like 25 dollars, and it holds great with 3 lugs. only thing is that it is ugly.. but i have like 6 redots on them.

[@missionspec]

Trading on someone else's name and good will is stealing. Unity developed (R&D) and marketed the item. Making it popular. If you then reproduce it without permission you are stealing.

[@paullee9160]

i was not paying attention to the fake branding... i was only refering to the design

[@MasterChief773]

It literally has the patent number labeled on the side next to the logo in the video. Also, why don’t you think that these mounts require R&D? They are designed to be tough, light, and ergonomic. Something that can take a beating and still hold zero to save your life. Your comment does not make any sense

[@paullee9160]

@@MasterChief773 you are fooling yourself if you think there is a lot that goes into R&D on these. all it requires is basic engineering, good material, and build quality. a brand new company can build something robust and good if they decide to compete in that field. research my ass. they are not building barrels or bolts.

[@briangladu5519]

Blame our damn Government for allowing the patent violations! But then again they work for the very ones that are doing it. Government by China for China

[@kylerreese9997]

I like that the only differences is coating and a few machining marks… other than that it’s the same material they used to machine 💀 one is what they should actually cost and the other is marked up through the ass 😂

[@missionspec]

One is paying for all the R&D, marketing, salaries, production, insurance, and alllllll the taxes involved in making something. The other just said, "we can do that but pay for nothing."

[@gorillaump5869]

I put my $17 ebay knock off on my AR-9.. ITS WORKS! I just cant financially justify a $200 riser.. If I decide to volunteer to Ukraine- then id take the $200 one.

[@Kycirion]

If you've volunteered and you'd crane, I'd call you a fawking idiot, regardless of the gear you purchased.

[@ryanmedina2146]

I bought the same one from eBay but when I tried mounting it it was superrrrrr loose, what screw did you use to lock it in place ?

[@alexandermertes]

Hey man, great video!! Is there anyway you could show us the box that thing came in? Either dm or email or something? Buying one on ebay and don’t want to get jipped

[@eastcoastflooring4624]

The box they come in it’s just a plain brown box the real one will be a white box with a unity label that you will have to cut to get the box open

[@eastcoastflooring4624]

You’re going to get gypped if you think you’re buying a real one they are a select few that mirror the unity fast mount check for rounded corners by the screw holes and there should be a locking lug on the top as well as the bottom I’ve got like eight of them You will find one on eBay where the seller has black tan and green it will be the only seller with a green one I would buy from them

[@4bvenom733]

Not fake.. replica version, and it looks good

[@reliablethreat23]

The real ones only come in black or FDE.

[@nottebello]

Thanks for letting people know dude, pretty wild stuff.

[@rhodycars6058]

Chinese knock off mount is just as good

[@missionspec]

I will use the real one. They put the money in. Others just copied. Unless it is a licensed reproduction.

[@bvandermeersch]

@@missionspec terrible take. Its literally a chunk of aluminum. They are gouging like crazy. If you like burning money to make yourself feel good and fit in. You are doing it right.

[@dirtycommtroop]

I bought a $17 fake one on ebay for my airsoft. The added height should be easier to use with an airsoft/paintball mask. Other than that I would never consider this high of a mount on real steel unless it was for law enforcement.

[@heroislegend]

Sorry but I rather pay a fake for $20 than $200 for a real. I don't have money coming out of my behind.

[@turdferguson2863]

I put a Micro T1 on my real deal unity riser. My brother got a fake with a holosun.

[@maze1914]

@@armydawg1292 if that bitch hold zero. Guess what it's good to go lol

[@dejuanballard3367]

What did this comment do for anyone?

[@noremactrebor4674]

It did nothing……

[@Oh-Jeez]

cool story

[@dt_7557]

Your rifle upper looks plastic 🤥

[@aresemstactical9682]

Ever heard of Spray cans, Kitty Cat?

[@WdoubleyouW]

well im not wasting 200€ on the original lol

[@carlh4350]

Dude, you make fun of knock offs but then run a Chinese knock off red dot. Ooofff

[@TrevDri]

Theyre not knockoffs of aim points they’re just compatible with aim point mounts. They don’t look anything alike.

[@RT804]

SIG optics are designed in Oregon and built in China by the same OEM that builds for Holosun and probably a few others. This shouldn't be a knock to get good budget friendly products in the hands of people. And they're all over Ukraine right now.

[@whiplash5026]

Here's an idea ... Order from unity's website..

[@missionspec]

They have a great site.

[@johnbalison8983]

They are just as good just as tough and a fraction of the price..how bout not price gouging and having to get rich off of everything..just like lasers..optics..may never buy American again...said with a Chinese made red dot on it hahahaha

[@JAEZAI1]

Wow

[@simply_based]

found one on ebay marked up $20 while being beat to hell

[@missionspec]

Real or fake?

[@悦晨-h6c]

bj-tac？

[@missionspec]

What are you asking? Not following you.

[@oldspeed671]

Both are overpriced and blocks of aluminum. Lol.

[@missionspec]

Well. I would encourage you to think of the millions of dollars worth of machines and man hours that probably went into producing it. It's not just the cost of the aluminum.

[@oldspeed671]

I still wouldn't pay over $100 for it though, no matter how good the marketing was. 🤷‍♀️

[@missionspec]

@@oldspeed671Not sure what the marketing has to do with it. It takes tons and tons of money to bring a new product to market. They aren't going to bother making it if they just break even.

[@SighsInternally]

jesus christ dude use a tripod

[@user-gz4vb2rf5c]

My god in almost three up. Hold the GODDAMN CAMERA STILL!!!!!!!

[@rightbothways867]

So it's good then!! Yay!

[@mojo_dojo_]

unity mount with shit ass red dot says everything we need to know

[@RTK_GOON]

The mount costed more than the fucking optic! 😂

[@TTime685]

Romeo 5's are good quality budget optics.. Quit talking out of your snobby ass

[@TTime685]

Romeo 5's are good quality budget optics.. Quit talking out of your as s