Real World Undercoating Test Pt 2: Homemade Solutions, Woolwax, Rust Check, and More...

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Repair Geek

Repair Geek

Күн бұрын

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@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
I want to cover a couple of things that I glossed over in the video. First of which my testing does not take into account dirt from driving. Like I mentioned last year your results with some of these products may be slightly better if the coatings are exposed to road dirt, which would make them more resilient. I want to test JUST the coatings with this. Adding dirt adds variables and can have an effect on the testing. Secondly, the motor oil and transmission fluid that I tested were fresh right out of the bottle. The oil that was tested was 10w-30 conventional Supertech from Walmart. The transmission fluid was Valvoline Dex/Merc. They were not used they were not acidic. Their performance as a vehicle undercoating is tied to dirt exposure in my opinion. The dirt helps hold the product on the surface of the metal. Links to the products featured in this video: Corrosion X:https: //amzn.to/3ayIlYD Corrosion X Aviation: amzn.to/2XZUVNZ Corrosion X HD: amzn.to/2yzMnma PB Blaster Corrosion Stop: amzn.to/3awV8dV WD-40 Long Term Corrosion Inhibitor: amzn.to/2zq0IlE Eastwood Heavy Duty Anti-Rust: amzn.to/2yFjyVi Woolwax: amzn.to/2VNMRwW T-9 Boesheild: amzn.to/3cHZO29 Protection First Class: amzn.to/3eL9ECh ACF-50: amzn.to/2XYknmN Waxoyl Hardwax: www.roversnorth.com/parts/rnw... Waxoyl Cavity Wax: www.roversnorth.com/parts/rnw... Crown 6007: amzn.to/2Y3NQvF Rust Check: Are you nuts? Haha DON'T BUY IT!!! No Drip Rustproofing: www.tptools.com/Dominion-Sure... NHOU: nhoilundercoating.com/ Lindseed Oil: amzn.to/2S57nZ0 Bar and Chain Oil: amzn.to/3cGDTs5 Petroleum Jelly: amzn.to/3cKVkYO Fluid Film: amzn.to/3eMSvIv Help support the channel buy using my Amazon links your cost is exactly the same using my links and I earn a percentage of each item sold. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
@Hutchy45445
@Hutchy45445 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I'm surprised noone suggested ceramic coating
@jeremy8715
@jeremy8715 4 жыл бұрын
Your right, but I think what we want to see is if the product will stop the rust from getting any worst / growing in size. 2:57
@ontario-yota-1050
@ontario-yota-1050 4 жыл бұрын
i feel like the last (and arguably most important) review would be test these products underneath a vehicle for a whole winter. Make a jig to bolt samples to your frame, spray different sections. Not sure, but that way you could replicate the dirt collection aspect of these products, and how that affects their performance. Me personally, I find the best results from undercoating vehicles come once they get that nice oil saturated dirt covering that acts like a protective membrane. Also, please test corrosion X, rated #1 by the Canadian military.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
@@ontario-yota-1050 i thought about doing what you are suggesting, the problem is you can't guarantee each sample will get the same amount of road spray. If 1 or 2 samples get 2x as much road spray it's not an equal test.
@allansmith3837
@allansmith3837 4 жыл бұрын
Best I've found is good old hydraulic fluid you hardly ever see rusty hydraulics on dozier
@R0cketRed
@R0cketRed 3 жыл бұрын
So after watching both videos multiple times over the last 2 years it seems to me the ultimate answer is any cosmoline. Thank you so much for your HUGE time investment to bring this info to the community! Amazing how well you do your tests, anyone that complains is just ignorant and has no idea how much work you did to do this.
@quattroTorsen
@quattroTorsen 3 жыл бұрын
Cosmoline seems to be best in many cases, but unfortunatly it wont creep as well into cavities, folds and joints
@joeybrazda364
@joeybrazda364 2 жыл бұрын
@@quattroTorsen that’s when you would use fluid film and others like it
@richcombs4805
@richcombs4805 2 жыл бұрын
My experience on an older Highlander and newer Camry in upstate NY is the cosmoline works well on clean or very very little rust (very smooth) surfaces....don't even think about putting it on any rust that you can see from four feet away....use woolwax to slather and suffocate rust.
@ScottBennettMusic
@ScottBennettMusic Жыл бұрын
Fluid film doesn’t creep much. NHOU oil creeps further than anything I’ve ever used.
@jlilly8144
@jlilly8144 5 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing, or maybe that Oxoyl hard wax stuff. Either of those IMO is the way to go.
@brokerolla
@brokerolla 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this series! I know it’s a few years old but wanted to point out something for those just now seeing it. Aviation products are marketed for aluminum, which is the most common material used when building a fuselage. Aluminum is porous and absorbs anti-corrosion products; whereas steel is not and they simply float on top. Aviation products are also not designed to inhibit iron oxide AKA rust, they are formulated to inhibit aluminum oxides.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 8 ай бұрын
That isn't what the comment section of the first video wanted to see...
@Brett4517
@Brett4517 4 жыл бұрын
I think I will be doing CRC Marine coating on my truck after seeing the results. Thanks for a thorough video.
@jjack6896
@jjack6896 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you on the CRC. If they came out with wand kit like Fluid Film for the spray cans I would use it inside the frame.
@drjhunter
@drjhunter 3 жыл бұрын
I agree on CRC and I don’t want dirt buildup with wet products
@fshalor738
@fshalor738 3 жыл бұрын
I'm leaning towards that as well. Kerosene or steam takes off cosmo like coatings like this. Would have been awesome to also see a 50/50 motor oil and grease and a 1/1/1 oil grease wax mix tested too. I'm betting the cosmo also does well over existing rust!
@christianscustoms6429
@christianscustoms6429 3 жыл бұрын
How’s it working out for you now? Thinking I will do the same to my van
@Tyrael112
@Tyrael112 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking LPS 3 for the same reason, but that it may creep in door frames a bit better.
@lincolnshirepoacher894
@lincolnshirepoacher894 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, cooking oil. My father used to to paint that on his fencing as a wood preservative when they banned Creosote. That darn fence still hasn't rotted. Waxoyl has been used in the UK for years, and seems to work well. Good job btw.
@thetechlibrarian
@thetechlibrarian 3 жыл бұрын
Lol right, shout out to petroleum jelly
@46GarageUSA
@46GarageUSA Жыл бұрын
What kind of cooking oil 🪔 ? Being theres all different kinds
@MartyM-o3n
@MartyM-o3n 29 күн бұрын
Excellent job covering multiple products. Definitely some surprises
@chuckwalters4759
@chuckwalters4759 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the thought and time this video took to bring all together. Thanks
@mikem5475
@mikem5475 2 ай бұрын
Some angle iron cut into short pieces, some product, time, and a pressure wash?
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 2 ай бұрын
@@mikem5475 says the man who is too cheap to spend $15 on a tripod... Meanwhile I'm spending $400 on products for one video...
@dougtak39
@dougtak39 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for all the time spent @Repair Geek. I'm surprised no one's done a ranking yet, so here goes. My number 1 is the 10:05 Berkebile PFC 2+2 because it is plastic and rubber safe and I plan on using it for everything around the house. PFC, 4:54 Fluid Film and 8:41 Woolwax are all lanolin based (oils from sheep fur/wool) and safe on plastic and rubber. Woolwax is the thickest and will cling the most, and Fluid Film may penetrate into crevices better, theoretically. The 2nd best group seems to be the cosmoline products, 5:02 CRC and 8:16 Eastwood Heavy Duty. Only 2nd because petroleum based and not safe for plastics and rubber seals. Then Sta-bil (from 1st video 6:13), 6:47 Corrosion X HD, 7:49 WD Longterm. All good but petroleum based and thinner viscosity. Honorable mentions: 11:14 Waxoyl (rubberized), 15:22 NHOU, 21:15 Vaseline.
@ATGMotoring
@ATGMotoring Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother for putting the list together!
@JovazPulse
@JovazPulse 2 ай бұрын
You deserve as many likes as his video for this. Thank you. -from the future
@mikem5475
@mikem5475 2 ай бұрын
You got the ranking completely wrong. You put products with no rust and most affordability at the bottom. Rheedarted
@0xsergy
@0xsergy 21 күн бұрын
Fluid film can cause rubber issues, i've seen ppl complain in forums about it. Best to avoid direct spray.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison my friend! 👍 I know a lot of work went into this video! Good job!
@ChuckWagon70
@ChuckWagon70 3 ай бұрын
My grandfather made my aunt coat the frame of her 1966 Tempest convertible with Vaseline every fall. That car was pristine when she stupidly sold it in 1987. It was Pearl Black with a red interior. Beautiful
@sargonodisho1093
@sargonodisho1093 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping us to find the right product I learned a lot from you .
@stevenreeves1394
@stevenreeves1394 4 жыл бұрын
I loved both parts - 1 & 2. But i loved the part where motor oil, transmission fluid and cable oil totally flamed out. Linseed oil was unexpected and I was impressed. I'll stick to cosmoline. If its good enough for WW1 rifles in a crate its good enough for me.
@thomasbartlett3409
@thomasbartlett3409 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done presentation as in the part #1 and thank you for the effort. Getting the oils like B&C, ATF, Motor Oil etc. to work well requires another step to help them stay on the metal. And yes, the trick is to apply them to the undercarriage ,then take the vehicle down a dirt road and build up a layer of dirt. Doing this every year builds up layers of oil film that keeps water off the metal. Another technique is to heat the oil in a crock pot ,add paraffin ,then spray it on hot to the undercarriage. Believe me it works... Remember, the goal is to keep water off the metal. (Salt + Moisture + heat = corrosion) on steel. And yes, temperature like salt also affects the corrosion rate . Vaseline is nothing more than grease. Heat it up to liquify , then spray it on hot using a Schutz undercoat gun @ 40 - 80 psi.
@dueljet
@dueljet 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I know that I will be rewatching this video a few more times.
@k9feces
@k9feces 4 жыл бұрын
This video should have more views
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
I think so too but, my opinion is a little biased haha.
@crystalgarry5873
@crystalgarry5873 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for being so thorough. Vaseline can be easily and quickly heated into liquid and then sprayed and dripped into crevices. And transmission fluid/motor oil same viscosity/ease of application.
@redchris1757
@redchris1757 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. Lot of time and work involved. Appreciate very much. lots options but I'll probably grab some fluid film.
@Papi4l2
@Papi4l2 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u soooo much for using that Crown product i requested! Ive been waiting for this video, which seems like years lol. Ive only seen 1 person ever talk bout it, and i knew nothing. Thanks for trying it
@miket.8528
@miket.8528 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking on this project!! I found your channel today and watched all the previous ones on undercoating. This isn’t the most exciting experiment but it provides a great info for automotive enthusiast like myself. I will be using fluid film twice a year.
@scottraymond3218
@scottraymond3218 4 жыл бұрын
The end all of undercoating comparison videos. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I’ve been using fluid film for a while but going to start using PFC on the undercarriage and FF in the door, rocker panels and body seams. PFC is very similar to FF except it does dry and get tacky rather than staying as wet as FF.
@cluelessblamer518
@cluelessblamer518 4 жыл бұрын
He said it gets wet like FF. There is no difference..
@felso1000
@felso1000 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. As someone who lives in a tropical country where rain and floods are common. Cosmoline based products seems to be the answer.
@js12278
@js12278 4 жыл бұрын
Woolwax on/in my chassis and fender wells . Fluid Film inside all doors, tailgate and pillar posts. I skip the undercarriage wash until end of summer. Apply the weekend before Thanksgiving. The best $50 I can spend in my pickup!
@justaguyandhissilver4893
@justaguyandhissilver4893 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a first coat with cosmoline (dries tacky and doesnt come off) followed by a second coat of the woolwax, how it would work. Might be a great combo.
@js12278
@js12278 4 жыл бұрын
Just A guy and his silver seems like a bit much, IMO. Besides the Woolwax protects the metal. With your plan it doesn’t get to the metal.
@zackzander425
@zackzander425 4 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty much how I do it.
@johnspringer3951
@johnspringer3951 4 жыл бұрын
How much do you buy for a extended cab pickup?
@js12278
@js12278 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnspringer3951 I bought a2 gallon kit from Kellsport. It included the spray gun. I upgraded to the pro gun. I used the black on all the chassis (inside and out) I used the aerosol cans for inside the doors You will have some left over. Make sure, since it’s your first application, to go heavy. If you don’t have a compressor available, buy the aerosol cans by the case. You’ll use it, trust me.
@mrraff69
@mrraff69 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I do know about POR 15 is that if you painted it on the bare rusty piece you left out all winter it would stick properly. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together and add all the links to the products. I’m subscribed as well.
@xdmderp
@xdmderp 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I almost went out and got that krown rust proof shit ...so glad I saw ur video well done and thanks great video bud.
@bangbang-ul6wv
@bangbang-ul6wv 2 жыл бұрын
hey boss love watching these having cars and plows in the rust belt this actually helps us a ton and save a ton of money i use the new pb rust barrier on the stuff worth keeping on the plows we use the bar oil cut with used diesel oil and just apply it evry time its on the lift so quantity over quality! keep up the great content!
@perhansen8983
@perhansen8983 2 жыл бұрын
One of, if not the the best Youtbe tester,, boils all the snake oil BS down and give us straight facts on a gold plate,, thank you sir.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Don't tell project farm 😂
@perhansen8983
@perhansen8983 2 жыл бұрын
😅
@Jonathan-hq8od
@Jonathan-hq8od 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great wrap up to all the testing you’ve done. This video and previous. You’ve tested so many products. Thank you for your hard work. Hats off to you. Side note. Your personal choice of trying Vaseline was genius. I guessed it right away. Definitely would be a pain to apply though. “Honey I’m going out to the garage with my Vaseline. I’ll be back in....well, don’t wait up for me”
@jadd6810
@jadd6810 4 жыл бұрын
We are planning on moving from the desert to the New England area and I was just looking at a can on T-9 I use on various things and wondered if it would make a decent undercoating. Thanks for doing these types of videos. I'll be treating our vehicles with CRC before we leave then every year after. Thanks again!
@1r2i3c4h
@1r2i3c4h 4 жыл бұрын
You make an excellent point in your pinned comment. On new bare metal, there is nothing for some of the products to bite/adhere well to. If there were a slight layer of dust or dirt, the trans fluid or oil or other product would have absorbed into it and stayed on the surface longer to protect it. Along the same lines, the surface rust that does form will absorb the above named materials when you reapply it the following year which should stop any additional rust. So the surface rust with the absorbed trans/oil is now your undercoating. You wouldn’t use the better products that protected the surface (i.e. petroleum jelly) to help remove a rusted on bolt. You would use one of the thinner products to absorb/penetrate the rust to free the bolt. Most of us, especially me, would not be applying this to a new vehicle with clean metal. In the end, something is better than nothing.Great video, thank you 👍🏻
@ourkid2000
@ourkid2000 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great test! Really nice work and something very useful. Thanks for the informative series.
@skynet2115
@skynet2115 4 жыл бұрын
I have to hand it to you on terrific job. That’s what I call a thorough review between last year and this year you covered it pretty well. Kudos to you keep it up. Here is an after thought on one last product, no need to test it. Believe me when I say that I understand it will never stop. It's like a bottomless pit of never ending products, but if you have heard of "3M Cavity wax" I would very much appreciate you take on it, and if you haven't no worries. Once again thanks for those great comparison reviews.
@goldentrucker7921
@goldentrucker7921 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered 4 cans of Amsoil. Their products have never let me down in 20 years.
@rickjames6948
@rickjames6948 3 жыл бұрын
Amsoil is crap. Waaaay over priced walmart oils repackaged with the amsoil name.
@Insideline46
@Insideline46 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickjames6948 What would possibly make you state this?
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 10 ай бұрын
​@@rickjames6948your ignorant
@skliros9235
@skliros9235 3 жыл бұрын
I used to use fluid film, but it's not cheap. Last few years I use spray cans of white lithium grease. It's very cheap and seems to last longer.
@mra4107
@mra4107 4 жыл бұрын
Great series of videos! Looks like LPS 3 is a winner from the first video you did. Doesn't seem to cause damage to the rubber gaskets, etc too.
@rodneya6371
@rodneya6371 4 жыл бұрын
Berkebile is located pretty close to me in Pennsylvania so it’s cool to see them out in the wild like this. Also cool to see them perform well!
@moriarty4100
@moriarty4100 4 жыл бұрын
Any coating for aviation is made lightweight/thin due to in aviation weight and balance is a critical issue and it's designed to get into nooks and crannies and is primarily used in intern areas of aluminum.
@In2oil2
@In2oil2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running to my closest NAPA auto parts and buying a Can CRC awesome video! Great work
@themotofixery
@themotofixery 4 жыл бұрын
These types of videos are the best! I really appreciate your work! Thumbs up!
@skliros9235
@skliros9235 3 жыл бұрын
Jcb uses waxoyl hard wax on their telehandler booms, and it lasts a very long time. It basically only comes off if rubbed off.
@scooterpie696
@scooterpie696 4 жыл бұрын
Im not a Krown apologist but I have my truck sprayed every year with it and it does grab dust and dirt and it does cause it to stick on pretty well. I'm pretty satisfied. In high splash areas though, it does come off. I wish someone in my area did Woolwax or NHOU application. I think it would do a much better job. I'm in Michigan and the Krown applicator in Lexington doesn't skimp on product but I tried a different Krown applicator last year and they left dry spots everywhere on the undercarriage. You have to check their work. Krown appears to do very well inside the panels where there is no splash. Awesome video. Thanks.
@scooterpie696
@scooterpie696 4 жыл бұрын
@don s I did eventually find a place in Lapeer that does NHOU and had my Acadia done. It seems pretty thick. I think it will do nicely. I'll have my truck done in the spring. Thanks for the reply.
@chuckb.5076
@chuckb.5076 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Super informative. Thanks for the video. Stay well.
@donaldmatthies6026
@donaldmatthies6026 3 жыл бұрын
I watched both parts of the video, you did a really good job and thank you for taking time to test, film edit and post this video.
@allthesecontinents
@allthesecontinents 4 жыл бұрын
Simply GREAT JOB! Thank You for the effort!
@campnut6076
@campnut6076 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a case of CRC marine coating for my truck based on your results. Little expensive but impressed me. Thanks for sharing your results with us.
@philipunderwood477
@philipunderwood477 3 жыл бұрын
I live in New Hampshire - I have had my 2013 F150 (purchased new with 4 miles) sprayed with chainsaw oil by a local shop - 2x in 1st year, then once per year since then. It has 336,xxx miles - absolutely no rust. This shop has also sprayed my 2015 Expedition 2x in 1st year, then 1x per year since. Also my 2006 Dodge 2500, sprayed with chainsaw oil 2x during 2021 when I purchased used (body and frame was very, very clean southern truck). I even started spraying the entire frame of my flatbed trailer - the local shop can't do trailers. Although the trailer had some rust - at least it is holding together. Although the chainsaw bar oil does drip a bit for the first couple days, it provides an excellent barrier from water, road spray and I think it holds up very well in high spray/ wash areas. Especially in wheel wells/ inner fenders. I think the dust/ dirt from the highways and dirt roads help hold the oil in place over time. And very good bang for the buck at $12/ gallon +/- Thanks again for your videos - I recommend your video to many, many people here in in the Northeast. Great comparisons and keep up the great work!!
@williegarland8888
@williegarland8888 3 жыл бұрын
I have used a tar based product for years. They make a tar product that is used as concrete basement coating under grade. It hardens after a few weeks. I blend the basement coating 50/50 with used motor oil. The oil part soaks in and goes away after a month leaving the hard basement coating. I am in the process of switching over to fluid film but for the exposed areas at the bottom, I will continue to use my old mixture.
@alphajam1
@alphajam1 4 жыл бұрын
I think the lanolin based products like Fluid Film and Woolwax bonds at the molecular level even when you think it washes completely off. It still protects a bit more even if hit with a pressure washer. I would use Fluid Film to penetrate inside seams and Woolwax at the wheel wells after you apply the former.
@PrimeToolbox
@PrimeToolbox 7 ай бұрын
I'm using fluid film to protect my tools from rusting, it works really well! And it's non-toxic, which is important for handtools that we are touching with bare hands all the time.
@joshuamartin4121
@joshuamartin4121 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos on undercoating, thanks a ton for testing so thoroughly so many products. Going to search your channel now on how to clean up rust before applying.
@chadparks9810
@chadparks9810 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and the detailed research was quite telling....not biased opinions you'll see from the manufacturers of the products! Keep your research going...it makes all of us better consumers and stewards of earth resources!
@topJimmyP1984
@topJimmyP1984 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as you said medicine cabinet I knew was petroleum jelly. I have used it on mag wheels and chrome exhaust tips in winter time to keep from rusting and use similar to Dielectric grease too.
@ashishanshuman3074
@ashishanshuman3074 6 ай бұрын
Wow, so thorough. Subscribed!!
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update.
@Semiam1
@Semiam1 3 жыл бұрын
Well done. There are so many variables that you can control for. Some States use brine or brine and salt. There’s humidity and the variances of each individual vehicle. I’ve learned a lot and consider your testing as fair. I have been able to narrow the field down. And you have a new sub.
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest surprise was cooking oil. It was better than many of the expensive commercial products.
@addisonm4690
@addisonm4690 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU FOR THIS Just bought a 10 year old ranger in great shape and hope to keep it that way 🙂
@trouts4444
@trouts4444 4 жыл бұрын
Addison, I looked at a number of older used Rangers (in Massachusetts). They were all good looking on the outside. Underneath I found all of them had rust issues in the foreward underside of the bed near the cab. That may be due to the bed liner that is open on the end by the cab allowing water to run below. Another common issue was the back body connector arm to the frame. Most were rusted and a few not connected to the frame. The rusted beds put me off buying a Ranger. Maybe you are in an area with less road salt and your bed in excellent shape.
@addisonm4690
@addisonm4690 4 жыл бұрын
@@trouts4444 Hi David, thanks for looking out! I'm in Canada so we deal with some pretty heavy salt for about half the year. Other than the back bumper there wasn't really any rust on the truck at all (less some very very minor surface rust which is inevitable here). Its my first vehicle and I got a crazy good deal on it. I just had to replace the e-brake and left cat converter which I learned from youtube and did for cheap. Its been amazing so far, I LOVE the look and feel of the old 2-3 generation rangers. 🙂
@trouts4444
@trouts4444 4 жыл бұрын
@@addisonm4690 Rangers are nice looking trucks and a nice size which would have been more what I wanted. Your area may be a lot colder so you don't see as many sloppy days with melted liquid salt. Enjoy the truck.
@Celestatiune
@Celestatiune 3 жыл бұрын
I work at a big park campus and I like using Vaseline as lubricant on old metal carts and stuff that tends to sit in old damp sheds or get left out in whatever weather. Been using it on all my door hinges too without issue.
@cddsix
@cddsix 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative content! Surprised that linseed oil did not work better. I have used it to freeze and put a halt to some very active rust spots in my truck. It stays on it really well, you can see the yellowish film years after applying, rust never progresses where treated. Nothing that I apply it to looks anything like the sample steel strips you have, maybe it sticks much better to old rusty, half painted and dirty steel.
@cujet
@cujet Ай бұрын
Note: There are various aviation CIC's, from ultra thin, to thick and tough film forming products. CorrosionX and its aviation counterpart are identical, designed to penetrate seams. It is used to lightly fog inside a wing for very light duty protection, where its thin nature can run down into areas where sheet metal overlap and water might accumulate. However, CX also makes a product called "MaxWax" and it is a tough product. Ardrox AV8 and AV30 are also fantastic products, capable of protecting for years.
@ScottRecker
@ScottRecker Ай бұрын
Well done sir!! Well done
@geneva760
@geneva760 2 жыл бұрын
I have used petroleum jelly many years ago - heated it up so it flowed easier and with the right sort of spray equipment, you can get it to flow. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
@markhajnoczky9623
@markhajnoczky9623 3 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, I have been using the waste oil out of my truck (Rotella T-4) for over 10 years and my truck is spotless in Northern PA. I pressure wash the underside, apply with undercoating gun, drive down a gravel road and then I am set for the rough winters. I was very surprised that your engine oil performed so poorly.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you get dirt on the oil from driving down that gravel road it will all drip off. I believe that's what happened here. No dirt, no protection.
@markhajnoczky9623
@markhajnoczky9623 3 жыл бұрын
@@RepairGeek thanks for the reply and for running this experiment. I guess results can vary depending on the process of application
@dawid986
@dawid986 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job !! But you have mised one. Please test Corrosion Free Rust Cure 3000. Rated by Canadian Army report as number one. It is supposed to be the best ?
@MaliciousSRT
@MaliciousSRT 4 жыл бұрын
There is a test like this on another channel and it won, I am getting it done on my rig this year (from a car wash / accessories place, NOT crappy tire!)
@christopherk5909
@christopherk5909 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaliciousSRT Popular Car Wash on The West Mall?
@MaliciousSRT
@MaliciousSRT 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherk5909 BINGO! Went in last week for a wash and pulled up to the undercoat building "booked solid". Have to make an appt.
@ontario-yota-1050
@ontario-yota-1050 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaliciousSRT THIS!! Also, if buddy cant find some down in the states shoot me a message and ill ship you a can from canada @repair geek
@MaliciousSRT
@MaliciousSRT 4 жыл бұрын
@@ontario-yota-1050 I had my rig sprayed by that place 2 weeks ago, doesn't drip, doesn't stink and appears to be a good centimeter thick all over the frame, lower doors, gate, hood etc, I paid for the top package. Had Krown done on my other car last winter and it all drips off, for a week.
@mikejames9931
@mikejames9931 4 жыл бұрын
Watched both of your Videos tonight!Good Job and gives me a lot to consider since my Bronco II is 30 years and a daily driver.And I need something permanent like POR 15 or a Rust Proof Paint.Not worried about creeping I am going to Caulk all the Seems.I am good at that I used to shoot 30 tubes of Caulk a week in my Job on a Product that I built at my work.Thanks Again!!
@mkmitchell851
@mkmitchell851 3 жыл бұрын
Fastenall has a spray that turns the red oxide rust into black oxide which is essentially bluing the steel.. it also dries to a protective coating to keep oxygen out. So there is products that are meant for stopping rust in its tracks, and can be seen in a before and after segment.
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 4 жыл бұрын
Petroleum jelly, (similar to vaseline) can be melted and sprayed into inner panels. Does a great job.
@RSolebone
@RSolebone 4 жыл бұрын
If you will be doing any additional testing of overlooked products I second the nomination of Corrosion Free Rust Cure 3000. It supposedly has no adverse effects on rubber.
@91rss
@91rss 4 жыл бұрын
on vegetable oil or wool wax, one thing we heard is if your in an area with bears, youll attract one whose nice long nails will be raking your paint looking for the source ...
@Ansis99
@Ansis99 3 жыл бұрын
Very good! I like your style! 👍 P.S. I use mineral tractor transmission oil for undercoat. Works good. My car is 37 years old. :) And yes. We in our property use cooking oil for lawnmower blades and pan and it works great too. I use 220V pressure pump, which I buy in local Home Depot for about 11Euros, Made in China and it works great! I think it is best choice for peoples who have not compressed air system.
@robertgordon9295
@robertgordon9295 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time do put together these videos!
@markkalsbeek5883
@markkalsbeek5883 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I think this video is really great. You did an amazing job! I do have a point of improvement and that is the conclusion. I would really like you to show at least the best performing products at the end, because going back through all the products is really tedious as a viewer. Especially if I want to come back later in order to actually order something I am not going to want to re watch all 24 minutes again. Having a litle conclusion at the end with your pick and the best x products would make it all a lot easier.
@nathanwalker9290
@nathanwalker9290 4 жыл бұрын
Any reason you did not test "Corrosion Free"? Through independent testing of the Canadian military it was number one. I have used it for a couple years and I think it's the best of anything I've used including fluid film. It doesn't have odor like fluid film and seems to last longer.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Literally nobody suggested it until I posted this video.
@kuladeeluxe
@kuladeeluxe 11 ай бұрын
"don;t ask any questions..." Had me laughing. As a Canadian, many years ago a Rust Check dealer suggested that over rusty exterior metal, Vaseline was the best product.
@CoolCarVideo
@CoolCarVideo 2 жыл бұрын
very cool test, I would love to see exterior oil paint tested too
@sk8ridiot
@sk8ridiot 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever looked into Corrosion FREE rust cure formula 3000? In reviews it seems similar to fluid film but supposed to cling a little better. Can't find the Blaster Surface Shield in stock at any Home Depot's near me. Suppose I should just fluid film this year.
@davemurphy3813
@davemurphy3813 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos, exactly what I was looking for. Subscribed.
@Tom-ik5sc
@Tom-ik5sc 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered about heating the vasoline, too. But like you pointed out in a comment, it wouldn't be efficient. It looks like the cosmoline type products had some of the best results
@alanfeil2900
@alanfeil2900 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late to the party here. A local guy did an experiment at a University (Waterloo) and tried many oils, back in the 1980s. He used petroleum jelly like Vaseline in the 5 gallon pails and heated it up. It worked well on my cars but they were very messy when doing repairs later. He went to no drips and other oils later on. According to your results, I will redo my doors again and just use the Rust Check for oiling hinges. Maybe get a few spray cans of CRC for inside the doors, and use vegetable oil for the under side when I do it myself. (not always) The brake and fuel lines seem to be the biggest problem for me. Body panels are very good with conventional less drip/no drips on my 15 year old cars. I would still like to thank you for your effort.
@clintonmaurer5758
@clintonmaurer5758 2 жыл бұрын
I live south of Canton, I own a body shop and have been using products from Petroleum Service Company in PA. Look up undercoating in a can. It’s a oil and wax based product. They have a few different products. I have been using them for over 5 years and it holds up great
@petejohnson8397
@petejohnson8397 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the array of Tectyl products
@larrywineman403
@larrywineman403 3 жыл бұрын
for the time effort and money involved in making a great video, I liked and subscribed. Thanks for the great informational video. Fluid Film Just came out with a black undercoating so I think I will put that on my new 96 F350. I don't necessarily like how thick Wool Wax is, I'd rather just reapply ever year.
@Ianf1x
@Ianf1x 3 жыл бұрын
Mix vaseline with baby oil great for inside door skins great vid thanks 😁
@UAjoel
@UAjoel 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis - much appreciated. However, the only local shop that offers rust service in the area uses Noxudol products in multistep process: scrape/grind; rust eliminator, a tannic acid-based chemical similar to POR 15; cavity wax for inside frame and such; and finally Noxudol undercoat for everything that doesn't move or get hot. From my understanding, this undercoating is not a 'rubberized' coating, but is a waxy anti-corrosive coating. Does anyone have experience with the Noxudol lineup?
@guynewport
@guynewport 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....'might be a West Coast "thing" but here on the central coast of Oregon, LPS 3 is what I've used for 30 of the 40+ years I've lived within 1/2 miles of the coast. That said, I appreciate the breath of your analysis and the results of your newest testing, the product from "the Blaster People". LPS three is terribly expensive (IMO) per aerosol can but does advertise similar attributes to the Blaster product. FWIW, WD-40 was never intended to "prevent" corrosion but rather was intended to displace water (WD=water displacing) in it's application. Thanks for the clear cut, effective presentation.
@jefftarter4703
@jefftarter4703 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Thanks for the great videos.
@travispratt6327
@travispratt6327 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking of a way to test already rusted metal, I think a good test would be to take these pieces of angle iron, get them equally super rusty with some corrosion solution that you don’t remove, then hang some weights on them, preferably very heavy, coat them and see which ones fail first. That would be a great real world test that would test the ability of these products to penetrate and actually protect already rusted metal, as opposed to seal moisture or otherwise allow the rust to continue under the coating. Great video though, definitely very useful info!
@travispratt6327
@travispratt6327 3 жыл бұрын
To add, could cut them lengthwise and get a much smaller weaker piece, and also spray them intermittently with the corrosion solution, something like vinegar and salt or whatever is going to work the fastest.
@davemurphy3813
@davemurphy3813 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing these tests. I have some thoughts from this to share. - I think that the point of the aviation products is to creep into riveted seams in structures. 2024-T3 aircraft aluminum is a very strong but not very corrosion-resistant grade and comes clad with a more corrosion resistant grade to protect it (called "Alclad"). These riveted seams are likely the area most subject to compromised cladding and lack of protection by zinc chromate primer. Aircraft generally sit outside and are exposed to the elements and internal condensation but they aren't made from steel and aren't subject to salt spray. The products seem to be better suited to their specific application. - I've noticed that most vehicles that rust out do it from the seams and from inside out. Straight bare surfaces that are easy to protect will rust when the paint is compromised by gravel damage, but the rust that threatens the vehicle comes from those seams and inside. So a bit of "creep" might be somewhat important to consider. - I wonder if subjecting the tests to sand and gravel spray would make the tests more realistic. I wonder if a greasier product might "heal" over gravel damage by being pushed by road water spray, while being too thin would fail the pressure washer test. And if it's too hard it's just acting like paint. Maybe there's an optimum balance. Perhaps attaching the test apparatus under a vehicle could improve it. Whoever takes over the reins for these tests might consider that. - I understand that while salt accumulation and damage generally happens in winter, most of the corrosion actually happens subsequently under summer temperatures. - Due to your tests I went with CRC for the underside and had a commercial rustproofer do a "top side only" job inside my doors, rockers, fenders. I went CRC because of its drier finish. I believe that I will be more likely to perform better maintenance on my truck if it's not covered in grime like other products have caused on my previous vehicles. I do have a dilemma about whether it got into the spot-welded seams enough when I applied it, but I sprayed those areas really thick to encourage penetration before it had a chance to dry. I wonder if there's a thinner product that will get in there better without washing off the CRC. - Thanks again. Your tests were very helpful.
@deeman77777
@deeman77777 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! well done.
@Kyle-ku6ir
@Kyle-ku6ir 4 жыл бұрын
I never got the notification for this video even though I'm subbed and had the bell icon set to all updates. just thought you should know.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Odd. I'm not sure there is much I can do about it 🤔. I've noticed the view count seemed lower than some of my other recent uploads. Thanks for the heads up.
@Kyle-ku6ir
@Kyle-ku6ir 4 жыл бұрын
yeah I've watched other channels have similar problems with new videos just not showing up on people's news feed. youtube algorithm is just completely messed up. Anywase I'll share this around and try to get you some more views. This is a tremendous amount of time and energy put into a video like this it deserves to be seen. thanks for what you do.
@RepairGeek
@RepairGeek 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle-ku6ir if people weren't watching i wouldn't be making videos so thank you.
@topJimmyP1984
@topJimmyP1984 2 жыл бұрын
I get where you're coming from as far as protecting bare metal, new or prepped but there are products that work for surface rusted metals such as Rust Mort or Rust Kutter with acid that chemically reacts with the Rust and makes it a solid black coating which could then be tested on the telephone pole to see if it holds up, gets more Rusty or continues to rust underneath. Just a thought and thanks for your informative videos.
@barry-cq4xg
@barry-cq4xg 4 жыл бұрын
This is a really nice video. Professional and thorough. I noticed that you did not include RP- 342. I have seen several videos that have spoken very highly of this product. It seems to provide long term protection and adheres to the steel surface even in the harshest weather conditions.
@brokerolla
@brokerolla 8 ай бұрын
He used RP-342 in his first video. CRC/RP/AmSoil MP are all re-branded Cosmoline and results are identical: no rust and didn’t come off with pressure washing.
@712jimenez
@712jimenez 4 жыл бұрын
Great video like always! One product you haven't review is Rust bullet similar to POR-15. I painted my whole frame and any part i could reach with Rust Bullet and sprayed everything else with fluid film, my truck will never rust.
@AndrewKellman
@AndrewKellman 4 жыл бұрын
do like rust bullet better than POR-15? Trying to decide between the two.
@712jimenez
@712jimenez 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewKellman Yes, always had great results with Rust Bullet just use gloves because this stuff wont come off easily. Rust bullet goes on silver but you can just spray paint it whatever color you want over it since it acts like a primer before it fully cures, then its hard as nails.
@AndrewKellman
@AndrewKellman 4 жыл бұрын
@@712jimenez thanks for the info!
@caringcanadian4296
@caringcanadian4296 4 жыл бұрын
Kleenex Flo Rustproofing ....comes in a gallon...tried it for many years. Seem to work great. Canada
@apuckett1971
@apuckett1971 4 жыл бұрын
I think you could do a video on the rusty angle iron. What rust converters work best like corroseal
@lanceboudreau3630
@lanceboudreau3630 Жыл бұрын
There is a product I’d like to see tested “ strike hold” it was and is apparently used in the U.S. military as a gun lube and to prevent rust on military vehicles. It’s supposed give all the benefits of an undercoat but leave no residue behind so dirt etc won’t stick to the surface. And it’s supposed to creep like oil undercoating. I heard about it from an Australian 4wd KZbin channel. It would be interesting to see the results
@kevincramer8095
@kevincramer8095 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job man 👍,much appreciated
@Daddyoftam
@Daddyoftam 3 жыл бұрын
Used to go to a guy who made his own oil based blend, but he retired during COVID. Going to a place that uses NHOU this year. 2006 Dodge Ram 2500. No signs of rust going into 2022.
@michaelwells203
@michaelwells203 3 ай бұрын
I've add some luck with lithium grease on outer panels. It dries and hardens quite well to resist the elements. I didn't see any type of grease in the comparisons.
@torbenjansen5882
@torbenjansen5882 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful and great testing setup you've done - thanks a bunch :D
@masterblogger1crucialtimes838
@masterblogger1crucialtimes838 3 жыл бұрын
Great Job! I just had three vehicles done with Rust Check. They are now in the process of applying it for a second time to all three vehicles since I was not impressed. They claim to apply three different applications. The thinner version which they say creeps to where it needs to go inside panels and doors. Then there is the clear version that is supposed to be approximately the same viscosity as Fluid Film. And they offer the black version which I was told has the same viscosity and protection as the clear with a black colorant added. They without a doubt applied their thinner version (meant for inside doors and panels) to my vehicle frames and general undercarriage areas. And guess what? It was so loose and high in solvents that it totally loosened up and virtually dissolved my beautiful built-up layer of fluid film that was doing a great job protecting my vehicles. Was this intentional? I would prefer not to go there, but it leaves one to wonder. This is what I know; Once the fluid film is well built up and allowed to have sand and dust to imbed itself into it it does not have to be applied every year. That's a fact because I have done it! The whole Rust Check angle is to apply it so thinly that you have no choice but to have them apply it every year. While that may be job security for Rust Check Franchize owners, it can be quite a chunk of change annually for the unsuspecting consumer, especially if you have several vehicles. When I brought one of my three vehicles for a re-do I brought a piece of rusted sheet metal with me and asked them to spray a generous sample of all three of the products they offer. They sprayed a generous swath of their black, clear, and liquidy product they spray indoors and panels. The liquidy high solvent product dripped down the side of the metal while the clear and black spray held its own. It became crystal clear to me that the high solvent product was used to spray over my beautiful established layer of fluid film which essentially was diluted and compromised its effectiveness. And guess what? I forgot that rusty panel in the back of my truck and went to remove it today after two days of rain. What do you think I discovered? The thin product was virtually washed off, the clear swath was severely compromised, and the black rust check broke up and the protection crumbled. Rust Check is snake oil for vehicles...
@MichaelBrown-um8qc
@MichaelBrown-um8qc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I live in a sloppy crazy soaking area with STUPID saturation of "salt brine" on roads ☹️
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac 3 жыл бұрын
The best coating I've for the underside of my truck is Cosmoline RP-342. It goes on wet, black, and hardens to a wax-like coating. I've used Fluid Film and Eastwood inner frame coating, both of which worked okay, but the Cosmoline is better.
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