Joachim Kroll: Serial Killer Who Owned A Manor | World’s Most Evil Killers

A profile of the ghastly German serial killer who hunted and ate parts of his victims, earning him the title of the 'Ruhr Cannibal'.
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[@msudoc]

I’m sure those who taunted and shunned that poor falsely accused man into hanging himself simply shrugged and went on with their lives.

[@deathmauler181]

Correct ,and it happens often.

[@teresas8173]

Wouldn’t surprise me. People don’t care about much it seems. Extremely sad what happened to that innocent man.

[@evamarek5205]

That wouldn’t surprise me. A lot of people only care about themselves.

[@mirba6933]

@@evamarek5205 People are virus of the worst kind. It is painful to say but, we can't run from the truth. Or did we!!??? 🤔 🤔 I know that we can't run. I always say, i am ashamed to be the part of human kind. And, i will be glad to be stupid like the stone, so that i can't understand nothing at all. I think that stupid people live their lives much easier and they have a lot less stressful lives than we, who sadly understand more than we can comprehend. It hurts to say something like this. But it is sad truth!!?

[@mirba6933]

Do you think about this alleged Ruhr killer??!

[@1921Mathew]

I'm heartbroken for the poor man who hanged himself after being wrongly convicted!! That's just so so sad.

[@perkeyser2032]

That's one really good reason to not have death penalty; just the risk of getting sent to jail is for many people a worse choice than death.....regardless whether they are innocent or not. Just the threat of death row can be enough to make innocent people kill themselves. It's time for a prison reform in your country. You have the most people locked up. In the world. Ever. So you're doing something really wrong.

[@swampsaint5782]

@@perkeyser2032 having the most people locked up doesn't mean we have the most innocent people locked up. Mind your business, we're alright over here

[@sarahadair7320]

@@swampsaint5782 exactly. It means we actually imprison our criminals over here.

[@swampsaint5782]

@@sarahadair7320 exactly

[@lo_2710]

@@swampsaint5782 Actuslly we aren’t all right here. Each year people keep getting out of jail for wrongful convictions, so the system isn’t working out that great. People jailed for over 25 years are finally getting out because of DNA, and the testing is still up to discretion. Thankfully, more states have gotten rid of the death penalty, but it still should be removed altogether. Wrongful convicted individuals is what’s keeping lawyers busy. The American justice system is a travesty.

[@synysterlegato1185]

Those poor men convicted of his crimes god rest their souls

[@evamarek5205]

My sentiments exactly.

[@adamburdt8794]

For real. You let him reenact his crimes with a woman? Letting him either relive his fantasy or rewarding him to keep lying anyway.

[@joywalker4918]

Well, you have to remember, they let Hitler do just as much well actually a whole lot more.

[@dinkel8077]

@@joywalker4918 what the fuck are you talking about…Theyre doing it to get a confession to they have evidence and can identify the victims. Did you watch the video?

[@3BK235Y]

That's Germany.

[@jb7631]

They claim ALL serial killers start out with animal cruelty! This guy is a real piece of work 😳

[@daemon195]

Definitely not all but it could be a sign

[@timekiller882]

No one claims that ALL serial killers start that way.

[@ericknorskr8568]

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[@TheJerseyNinja]

Not even close to all. But it’s a pretty serious sign of displaced hostility and sadistic behavior which can be signs of a psychopath

[@TheJerseyNinja]

Well not literally the definition of a psychopath, as the signs of that are different, but let’s be real all serial killers are “psycho’s”

[@Charles-uu7gp]

Shame on those who accused an innocent man, what a sad story

[@Ali-tz5zg]

As usual, every serial killer had a “ feeling “ towards his mother..

[@casmckay8034]

True I think the intrest in these killers lays in the fact we totally can't relate I saw so many documentaries about serial killers and everytime I think how...how can do this to people..horrible but intresting at the same time .

[@durimahmedi8591]

@PKD Orion the reason for them to became serial killers is that they can't do nothing to their mother, so they harm the others..

[@ruaa2080]

childhood is everything

[@kaitlyngarcia3963]

freud was right.

[@nlocnil3602]

He didn't suffer long enough for his crimes. But then again you wonder if he even suffered at all if he basically had no heart or emotions anyway.

[@allisonyoung1498]

imagine being that girl hired for the reenactments, too creepy

[@pfftdammitchris]

"He [the killer] was really lonely actually. He would often get rejected by girls and started becoming increasingly introverted and spent most of his time at home" that really awkward feeling when you hear this and realize you relate to all three. *lowers down audio by 67%*

[@faraway-2009]

He deserved to get rejected since he kept making sexual comments to them. Like who tf starts a conversation with someone they are interested like that. I hope you don't relate bc of that

[@eg7381]

Change the narrative dude. Get outside, develop some healthy hobbies, be kind to people.

[@nicknmm09]

@@eg7381 oh please most of the people like that are overly nice to the point of being doormats. They often have hobbies too but that’s more helpful to get friends than a girlfriend. What most of em need to work on is growing a spine, and focus on their looks, sorry but most women and rightly fully so don’t want to date a fat ugly slob regardless of how nice he is and no personality alone isn’t gonna cut it.

[@eg7381]

@@nicknmm09 I agree with you. Being emotionally and physically healthy is important. That’s why I suggested some developing some healthy hobbies like weightlifting.

[@d_eli_ght]

@@nicknmm09 you can be kind while also not taking any bullshit and not letting people push you around. It takes some learning and practice to be able to recognize when people are using or manipulating you, but after you’ll be able to have healthy relationships built on boundaries and mutual respect. It’s a skill everyone should have tbh- how to be kind while recognizing who is really worth interacting with.

[@TaddiestMason]

The falsely accused people aren’t on Kroll’s head-that’s on the cops and society. Pretty messed up to accuse the serial killer with no knowledge of the case against him at the time, but absolve the cops and prosecutors and people in society who accused those poor men of this shit.

[@EmptyPocketsXotics]

If you go back and listen to it again, it was Kroll's view that the falsely accused weren't on his head. HE was the one who felt it was on the cops and prosecutors that they were sentenced. He had no remorse for those falsely accused 🙄

[@carlaflaute3374]

It absolutely was on Krolls head because ultimately without his murderous actions they never could have been even considered as well as the cops and so called friends heads who pointed fingers and convicted the innocent men

[@astxrism8236]

We know it was technically on Krolls head but the cops fell right into it.

[@jun-ml2rn]

@@carlaflaute3374 it’s on both of them

[@Q8Ubermensch]

I don't know how he has this ability to hurt or even kill a 4 years old girl.

[@pekkarintala3794]

It's not that hard. They are pretty small, but move slowly.

[@petitmorte2186]

he is missing a piece of his humanity. dont try to understand it. it'll drive you crazy. he is evil.

[@littlewolf9049]

@@pekkarintala3794 lmao

[@CuriousConnoisseurs]

He is freaking fking a Cow.... from that point everything is possible...

[@oAgL214]

He was a sociopath. They don't see people like we do. For them people are just objects.

[@ijehsunday3253]

Lots have gone wrong for an offense of someone, am saddened for the little girl that lost his father and the trauma and the man himself

[@vildibuks]

The narrator of this show is so good.

[@JamesSmith-rh4is]

His name is Fred Dinenage.

[@jakecook4816]

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[@LonelyCinderella123]

Should go more into his crimes (with the narration) and spend less time on "the experts" and their opinions.

[@SlapthePissouttayew]

"The trial of the century." In Germany? Did they forget about that trial in Nuremburg in the 40's?

[@shmotz405]

I guess they like to erase that from history ?

[@Smellie1266]

it’s a figure of speech, get over it.

[@declamatory]

That was not legally performed! Besides, it was about an invented event!

[@slovnicurling9808]

@@shmotz405 Let me guess. It's the liberals who is trying to erase it from history.

[@aynsley-rigdenmaximilian6288]

@@declamatory are you insane?

[@jeremybennett3909]

poor cat what a monster

[@tiffanyholman4028]

You know there were children being murdered right? Actual human beings?

[@clarissa8477]

I’ve never seen that kind of crime scene reenactment before, those photos are just too much lol.

[@littlewolf9049]

Look up Andre Chikatilo

[@LonelyCinderella123]

Imagine being the guy playing the victim and looking up at that creepy face of his.

[@twincherry4958]

@@LonelyCinderella123 I'll throw up

[@dude926]

​@@LonelyCinderella123i will kiss him

[@rachelh9150]

Hang on now lady. "He was becoming more introverted and that's never good"??? Really!? As a introvert who doesn't do murdery things I take offense to that!

[@clarissa8477]

Hahaha I thought the same thing! I’ve become more introverted as I get older, and I’ve never harmed anyone 😆

[@roroh7701]

I do too, and it's one of the things I disagree with a lot. Psychopathy, sociopathy, etc are all listed underneath 'Antisocial Personality Disorder' and I find it alarming because not only does it compare antisocial people to murderers, but it classifies them under the same category. It's almost as if they're saying that they are one in the same. Personally, I don't think being antisocial or becoming introverted should be an alarming detail towards "we should've known they were the killer when they were seeing people less and less." Antisocial personality can be a symptom, but it's not always the case; some of the most prolific serial killers were socializing very well and had a large circle of people they would speak to on a regular basis. It's always those cases where they were like, "I could not imagine them being the murderer of all those poor people." But back to what I was saying about the classification under APD; I do not believe they should fall under the same category, because while it is a symptom of some, it can also label the ones who really are just introverted or have social anxiety. I can't understand why they cannot have their own classification, rather than just shoving them underneath APD.

[@palindromic283]

@@roroh7701 I don't think you understand what antisocial personality disorder is. It has nothing to do with being introverted or socially anxious, antisocial is not synonymous with asocial in this context.

[@whatmeworry7184]

Yes, I was struck back at her comment. As someone who is introverted and likes my own company I have never had a thought of hurting much less torturing or killing people. Joachim Kroll was a really broken individual.

[@sonyonker]

Becoming more introverted when you are already having sexually sadistic thoughts, that’s where the problem is. Being an introvert won’t make you a sexual sadist but being a sexual sadist might make you an introvert.

[@taxi615]

This guy is the definition of unsuspecting killer

[@evamarek5205]

This is a horrifying and sickening case.

[@gordianknot7233]

Opening narration by Fred Dinenage is a clear indication that the topic ahead will be something nightmarishly freaky and macabre ..

[@3BK235Y]

I didn't know his name, but yes, the bloke is good. In fact, most British narrators are very good.

[@psychedelicpsychosis6954]

He started out being punished for his siblings bad deeds and went on to get other men punished for his bad deeds. Tragically full circle

[@Brekner]

To be honest it's a surprise that there weren't many people like him, imagine having to go through that incredibly destructive war and witnessing all that suffering and killing and such...it's no surprise some people lost it. Also, saying "in a time before DNA evidence existed" kinda implies that today there are no people wrongly imprisoned, lol.

[@bayonetababe9697]

Yeah even now sometimes someone is convicted without DNA evidence and maybe just eye witness testimony or totally circumstantial evidence. Then years later they catch someone or he confesses and they realize they’ve incarcerated the wrong person. It’s always too late whether the person has been put to death or not because they’ll never get all those years back that they lost.

[@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws]

It's a real eye opener, people nowadays can't relate to what went on in the war years, and it takes a lot of reading and research to even get an idea of what people went through. I think this policeman was special in that he made the effort to find out about the man. Obviously its awful what he did and for the wrongfully accused people but, without having lived in a family like his, in a time such as he did, its too easy to write him off as a monster because nobody ever tried to teach him differently. I am not standing up for people who hurt animals and other people but, you just don't know how even relatively well balanced people would turn out in that set of circumstances. Having watched it all now its really similar to Chikatilio who was another monster borne of the times and how his peers etc treated him. Both are totally chilling and it's so sad about the falsely accused.

[@Desire123ification]

Some people are just off: Without emotional boundaries nor moral inclination and it's a sad reality!

[@anonamous793]

I hope they paid the woman that helped him recreate his crimes a lot

[@chantellesouthafrica]

Too many excuses for this monster. . .

[@3BK235Y]

Very common among Europeans. Geoffrey Wansell (British) is a refreshing exception.

[@nowandaround312]

Yet another tragic case of monsters creating monsters

[@JustArtsCreations]

That is a hilariously joyful intro for a cannibal show. Love it!

[@entropy6124]

At first glance I thought the thumbnail said "The German Boogerman"

[@johnsmithie821]

I think the question should be how does he get to live after all he did

[@czerskip]

"Clean clinical approach like it is today?" - you clearly haven't seen the ways animals are treated today… what a thoughtless remark.

[@Brekner]

@SVS "The news people are coming, quickly, hide your machete and get the stun-gun".

[@alexyoungberg5232]

A "clean kill" is a guaranteed and instant death. "Clinical" means doing something in an optimized way. He never says that it's compassionate or even ethical. So I don't know why you're crying about those words being used to describe animal slaughter. They're factual. Nothing more.

[@TaddiestMason]

Have you worked in a slaughterhouse before or just seen images and videos online or on tv? I’ve worked in one-it’s pretty humane. At least for pigs it is.

[@coltonmason8290]

Certainly more humane then any death they would have in the wild. Being eaten while alive or dying a slow agonizing death from a broken bone, slowly starving to death. Death is never pretty, but an instant death is the most kind one that can be offered.

[@slovnicurling9808]

And you clearly haven't seen the ways how animals were treated in past... what a thoughtless remark.

[@finnainsley9088]

The fact that he looks a lot like Robert Englund terrifies me

[@tommymorgan4677]

Haha, you`re right.

[@3BK235Y]

I'm not too sure, but anyway...

[@carlaflaute3374]

Absolutely appalling to be accused and convicted of a murder you did not commit I’m assuming back then especially the way these many people were treated that were innocent is absolutely horrible especially the ones so tortured that they committed suicide.

[@Anthrax6989]

Imagine being so evil that you don't even fit into a Nazi movement

[@Pixx2266]

and not just "a" nazi movement but THE nazi movement... crazy

[@avut2001]

I think you are misunderstanding this: at that time, he was not yet a murderer, just a very socially awkward, shy and bullied kid, the literal runt of the litter. Of course he wouldn't fit into a Hitler Youth movement, where you were taught with strict discipline and rewarded for matcho and proactive behaviour. It has nothing to do with being evil, as there were plenty of Nazis who surpassed him there, but with fitting the mold of an outgoing military careerist.

[@avut2001]

@Mindin Mabusines Of course he wouldn't work as a camp guard, he was 12 when the war ended. I'm sure he would have loved to be a guard with access to such a big pool of victims, but he would have never even made a career with his low IQ and introverted, "weak" character in Nazi Germany.

[@Dhi-fe5eu]

The only ones sicker than the killers are the lawyers who defend these monsters and then attack the victim on the stand.

[@deathmauler181]

Everyone is allowed and should be given a proper defense. If you talk to attorneys it boils down to if people like that are forbidden a defense how long until you are not allowed a defense . Perhaps my words are slightly jumbled but I hope the idea got across.

[@clarissa8477]

@@deathmauler181 you got the idea across just fine, and I completely agree. Who would make the decision about which people are so bad that they don’t get a lawyer? The right to a defense is a very important part of our society. It’s the same idea as certain speech being banned. Who would decide what words should be illegal to say? I don’t want anyone having that kind of power over me.

[@elysse5983]

They could have solved so many other cases. Those poor people were robbed of answers. He would have confessed. Why did they stop. They should have kept going solving every case. Those who died had family that needed answers

[@CherieDeDieu]

Wow, sick guy! 😖😫 But as always, he probably wouldn't have turned out that way if he was loved more and not abused when younger.

[@TaddiestMason]

And if we cared enough about mental health to offer it to the people who need it the most. Intervention in that guy’s life would have stopped him too.

[@MrMarek19]

True

[@leannmeddings4068]

@@TaddiestMason yeah but you have to know someone has a problem to be able to help them. Some parents knew their kid had issues and tried to get them help. The other parents didn't give a crap. How can you help them when you don't know they need it?

[@vildibuks]

Hope they release an episode about the German nurse.

[@ginarelicsgemstones1506]

What did the nurse do?

[@slimebunny5700]

The what

[@frontdesk8463]

Once again, getting me through my work days of insurance verifications (: Thank you!

[@beckyfarley60]

So how do they explain a serial killer of today that has been valued and spoilt with money and their every whim handed to them? Too much indulgence?

[@tiffanyholman4028]

Affluenza is the term coined now.

[@NativeWarrior88]

Am I the only one who thinks that detective Jagers guy is creepy as hell for smiling and sometimes almost laughing throughout the whole interview? He was almost admiring him when he said that the dude had a photographic memory! The German police apparently weren't very good at their jobs! They convicted a bunch of innocent people! And because it is Germany, they can't be sued for the wrongful convictions! I love how they emphasized that he had an IQ of 69. To me, the fact that he checked to see if ppl were watching him and that he took his victims into secluded areas, that proves that he knew very well what he was doing. He wasn't simplistic and he wasn't childlike. He knew what he was doing was wrong! He attempted to dispose of the bodies. If he really didn't know what he was doing, he wouldn't have lied to his neighbors about the little girl's innards! He was a sicko and a child predator! I wish he would have ended up in an American prison because he would have been murdered by the other inmates! Parents need to be so aware of who their kids are hanging out with! It makes me sick that the German cops gave him cake like he was being rewarded for confessing! They camn say what they want to about, "we were just being human". No! You were bribing and playing games with him! I hope he died or dies screaming in pain and gripped in fear just like his victims. The dude without the facial hair literally blames society for the choices this animal made! "He wasn't mad or bad"? What the hell do you call mad or bad? If head been valued? I was beaten and abused on a regular basis as a kid! I've seen and been through some really bad things and instead of choosing to hurt ppl, I chose to help them! There is zero excuse! And German justice is a joke!

[@alisaphillips9517]

Yes!!

[@markadavid5377]

Gawd, he looks just like Harvey Glatman!👍👍

[@thomasmccaffrey264]

Is that the fan from final destination 1?!

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

How did this monster do that for so long ?

[@WeedToad69]

There it is, again, that funny feelin'...

[@tommymorgan4677]

He was a little bit odd and weird ? You don`t say.

[@MrMarek19]

Sad when person go throught life family , school .....Sad story become serial killer ...not suprised Parents teach kids social skills....dont beat them accept them ....dont say they are not nothing treat them nice. Them will be few like this case

[@mandymoore5774]

So I’m hearing a lot of excuses for an individual that should’ve been an insane asylum. Regardless of what they were like back during his lifetime

[@audreyparish06]

I agree. I feel like he definitely should be been in an asylum. Because although he had a terrible childhood which led to him committing theses acts. And I feel if he was treated differently then he wouldn’t have done these things. That being said. He did commit these things, and obviously was f*cked in the head. So I think he should have been in an asylum to get help. And even if he did end up getting help, He definitely should not have been released to the public even if he was on medications. Because he could’ve picked up his actions.

[@elysse5983]

@@audreyparish06 some people with loving childhoods do things like this too. His childhood would not have mattered. Only we can get better to identify the killer sooner or help those struggling with mental health

[@Grimeaper]

Wait why is being introverted a dangerous thing?

[@TaddiestMason]

It makes you harder to manipulate and control.

[@coltonmason8290]

When you isolate yourself from society, you begin to dissolve your role in societal structure. It's not inherently dangerous in a murderous sense, but it causes deviation.

[@IgN5P]

It isn't. They don't understand the term introversion. Suffering through social exclusion could be, and suspicions like that against introverted people, is one sure way to create such situations.

[@Grimeaper]

@@IgN5P That I agree on. Got to love tribalism. It is everywhere. I am an extrovert I am good, thus introversion bad. It isn't I just want to be left alone to chill in my own world it isn't a bad thing. Saying it is, looking down on me for wanting to be left alone can indeed create something far worse than you are imagining. People just don't understand some of us just want to chill in our own little world. In other words don't bother me I will come out when I feel like it. That is blasphemy though. You must thrive on sucking on others teets.

[@dude926]

​@@Grimeaperwhen you isolate yourself and don't go outside almost the whole day that's a problem

[@kazschellenger9723]

Demon in human form.

[@zo9690]

Pure form of satanism 🤮

[@fire9025]

I think that during the James khaelson show's were lit 🔥

[@stevenfobear4793]

Wow he's one sick dude man

[@cheyenneyoung4136]

Wow!

[@Stichting_NoFap]

the stuff around the death of his mother sounds too familiar with another serial killer that was from around the same time that was brought up a while ago

[@evamarek5205]

You're referring to Ed Gien? I believe he lost his marbles after his mother passed away, too.

[@Stichting_NoFap]

@@evamarek5205 yes

[@Stichting_NoFap]

@@evamarek5205 just checked it Ed Gein - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ed... Vertaal deze pagina Edward Theodore Gein (/ɡiːn/; August 27, 1906 - July 26, 1984), also known as the Butcher of Plainfield or the Plainfield Ghoul, was an American convicted ... Victims: 2 murders confirmed, 9 corpses mutila... Span of crimes: 1954-1957

[@starkerstuvwxyz]

the Real Crime narrator is what John Oliver would sound like if he tried to play Jason Statham.

[@mandymoore5774]

Seriously thought I was gonna hear we’d ask him what he’d like to eat & he would say “the thigh of a 40 year old woman please”. Wasn’t expecting “cake”!

[@mykejohnson1260]

This nigga died on the day and year I was born

[@neverything4402]

He's right he didn't matter much as a human. No remorse

[@onemaddad3823]

He was arrested around 4 decades after he started his perverted paraphilias, then you can be certain that his fantasies were so perverse and disgusting, we can’t even fathom them. Because our “fantasies” only ever advance. Like drug addiction, the tolerance only ever gets stronger and stronger. Same thing with sexual perversions. If he started this perversion with death, insides, blood, bestiality, etc. at a young age, then you can bet that by the time he was arrested 40+ years later, that his perversions were so advanced, that they would cause most people to vomit.

[@3cheesehamburgerhelper]

Lol sooo this is a super serious topic, but at 6:48 (ish) I got "he always thought…WHY DOESN'T EVERY HOME IN AMERICA HAVE SOLAR PANELS?" KZbin, have some couth.

[@serious1756]

Looks like Montgomery Burns.

[@SoundBlackRecordings]

The translator keeps calling him Akim or Hakim instead of Jochem which are totally different. LOL

[@annerison-g2w]

He beat and skinned a cat and the woman says that shows his childlike Behavior. WTF

[@barbaralamson7450]

East Germany was brutal. A person had to be either scared or mean to talk to police. At least back then. It wasn't done. People were killed on less than a nod in the wrong direction. I completely understand why he hung himself. The only people who believe you don't count enough when the whole of the neighborhood is pointing their nasty fingers at you. Guilt or innocence never played into it.

[@deadnorwegianblue614]

He was in West Germany, though, not East.

[@barbaralamson7450]

@@deadnorwegianblue614 Thank you, I definitely made the wrong assumption on this. I appreciate you telling me. 😊

[@crownymars1240]

How does it feel to be brought to a crime episode as a criminologist and then say nothing important! That woman really said nothing useful.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Man found dead with cornflake in throat, police suspect cereal killer

[@crr6750]

Idk it seems like the officers that were interviewing this guy who they themselves said had a “Low IQ” were leading him w the questions.

[@oolat9863]

"He learned that he didn't matter that much to his family" - nurture or nature to blame?

[@meganproffitt424]

My opinion? Little bit of both

[@oolat9863]

@@meganproffitt424 agree with that!

[@bigcapper2689]

Neither these people dont have much of a soul

[@meganproffitt424]

@@bigcapper2689 Lack of soul, one could argue, could be blaming nature.

[@gracedlm]

ngl i thought it was weird that sex represents power... in a normal persons mind its literally a connection but to someone like this its power but like idk y she said when "we" who is we lmao

[@gracedlm]

@666 ik im j talking bout how she said "we" as though its a thought you or I would have lol

[@sarahadair7320]

Thank goodness! I was like, wait what?? Lol I've never connected the 2. That would be very difficult and counterintuitive for me.

[@angelbaby9137]

He’s a killer no “ifs” “ands” or “buts” about it🤨

[@m3rpyd3rpydoe99]

Sometimes I think maybe if these people were treated like.. people maybe this wouldn't happen

[@MichelleLevasseur]

As far as I'm concerned, we shouldn't be remembering the names of these subhumans at all. I'd love to see the day when after conviction, serial killer's names are stricken from all record and are assigned a case number. Forever after when they or their case are referred to that number is used. The only names used would be the victim, counsel and the presiding judge. This show - and others like it - would play out just as well with the title of "Serial Killer # 123 - The Ruhr Cannibal" would it not?

[@roroh7701]

At the end of the day, they are still people. What they do/did is inexcusable, but in a lot of cases, I wouldn't call any of them 'subhuman.' Taking this case for example, if he were born into a household with a loving father, instead of one who abused him, and he was able to learn and be in society, this is not the outcome that would have happened. If these people are subhuman, what about the people who created them? Some of them could have lived normal, happy lives if they hadn't been through some of the crap they went through.

[@MichelleLevasseur]

@@roroh7701 So instead of addressing my main point which is to not even know these SUBHUMAN's names, you go for the "oh the poor lost soul" routine. You object to an accurate description of these vile creatures and come to their defence while ignoring why they shouldn't be remembered at all. Can you recognize the wrongness of that attitude? If they cross the line between being a good human and being sub, they give up all rights to being treated decently by any member of society, beyond the basics and I mean the VERY basics of some form of food, a roof, a bed and access to the shitter while they rot in jail. Anything else is out of place and wrong, including knowing their names. It matters very little who created them as no definitive answer can be given as to "who created them". The so-called experts can't even agree on the whole antiquated argument of nature vs nurture so expecting that definitive answer would be a long wait for nothing. We are all ultimately responsible for our own actions.

[@roroh7701]

@@MichelleLevasseur I never said they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, but they are no less human than you nor I. They have a fundamental wronging in their brain and it's the core as to why they did the things they did. Whether they were born this way (psychopaths) or they were created (sociopaths, etc), it does not change the fact that they are still born human, and if they were able to get help, some tragedies could be avoided. I don't pity them but you have to see that this is not normal as a human. Mental illness is not 'accepted' by the public 100%, and you are obviously one of these people.

[@MichelleLevasseur]

@@roroh7701 I won't engage in a round-a-bout of semantics. To address the issue in its entirety would require a commitment of at least 4 hours and really, who has that time. Suffice it to say, you can call them human while I call them subhuman and all the research in the world can be done regardless. What can also happen while examining, analyzing and excusing - it is done so don't bother getting your knickers in a twist that I had the temerity to refer to it - is to do exactly what I stated in my original comment - remove their name from history. You don't need the lowlife scums name to root around in their psyche finding what makes them tick. As to your assumption at the end of your comment? You do know what is said about assumptions, right? It is a bit of pothole, really, and you just fell in it.

[@roroh7701]

@@MichelleLevasseur Me and you are alike in that sense, we can just agree-to-disagree.

[@horrorhabit8421]

This is probably the best argument against the death penalty. If you've imprisoned someone under a false conviction, that's bad enough. But to execute someone under a false conviction, that's far worse.

[@bayonetababe9697]

Yeah and it happens more often than they want to admit. I’ve seen cases where DNA proves someone else did it but they’ve already killed the innocent person on death row. I sometimes think it’s ridiculous if you have someone on death row and then they stay there so long that they end up dying of natural causes. But I guess it’s good sometimes too because maybe they’ll realize their mistake before they kill them. They can’t ever be given their time back and all those years they were held when they were innocent. I personally don’t believe in the death penalty the only time it seems useful is when they can hold it over the criminal to get them to show them where they’ve buried victims.

[@lameesahmad9166]

This is too horrible. I could not watch it to the end.

[@Brekner]

Imagine someone saying "I enjoyed it" and minutes later having the police at his door, lol.

[@scottyacosta713]

Stopped my sub. And now watching another better documentary youtune channel that doesnt have a million ads

[@emilymccloud1735]

New drinking game: take a shot every time she says “control”

[@israelrodas2387]

43:43

[@orionxtc1119]

"Not available in your country"...had to use a VPN to watch

[@bekahward8710]

You bad ass. 😉

[@LonelyCinderella123]

So stupid to have borders on the internet.

[@gracedlm]

bernd jager more like eren jaeger

[@Stichting_NoFap]

1:24 he wasn't named jokkim

[@IgN5P]

Introversion is a personality trait which -- in fact -- are less prone to any form of crime.

[@tinyGrim1]

now days animals for slaughter is horrible from beginning of their life, all the way to kill floors..its worse now

[@bekahward8710]

It really is.

[@bayonetababe9697]

It’s never been humane and I don’t think it ever will be. They push these workers to go faster and faster that sometimes the animal isn’t even dead before they move on to the next step. It’s all bad but the way they do chickens is especially horrific. I haven’t eaten chicken in 10 years and pork since I was a teenager. I admit I eat beef occasionally but I’m trying to wean it out of my diet too.

[@LisaForTruth]

I'm not defending Kroll; let's get that out of the way. That being said, this guy led a miserable life. A little kindness goes a long way; you never know what kind of day a person has had, so always be kind. Of course, I'm not saying that kindness fixes everything; obviously it doesn't.

[@roroh7701]

I understand what you mean completely. He was abused as a child, and that already has terrible lasting effects normally, and he had an IQ of 79? Those two put together do not make a good combination. Abusing a child can prevent them from learning right/wrong already, and having this young boy who is already born into a struggle, to beat and abuse him? It's a recipe for disaster. And even though it's disgusting what he did, he did not deserve the absolute horror he received as a child. It's good that he was held accountable, but his father is just as guilty in my opinion.

[@ashleybenson4839]

I feel like Jeffrey dahmer also never would've been a murderer if he had ever been treated kindly.

[@jesscutiehott]

lol

[@sherrigiles9142]

No Jeffrey had a evil mine

[@skuntanksnuggler3919]

Whoever was nice to him ended up dead

[@joywalker4918]

Isn't this something that Germany was kind of used to already, even though this is absolutely horrible? Let's remember what happened before this monster was did this, so Germany should be used to this type of thing.

[@Stichting_NoFap]

did she just say slaughter isn't as brutal today as back then?

[@deathmauler181]

Indeed she did and technically it isn't that said that isnt a particularly impressive bar to clear.

[@madelineshank4683]

Just a weird trend I’ve noticed these documentaries always try to reason and sort of justify why these people ended up murdering! Like yes that’s sad and an awful way to grow up but my goodness there’s no excuse!

[@Juliette_Emelie]

I think it’s just very human to try and understand or at least to reason what drives someone to do awful things like this. It also may be so they can find out how to prevent people to become murderers. At least, that’s what i think

[@YAHSWarrior7777]

People stay prayed up. There are many demons walking amongst us.

[@510tuber]

Did that sound smart in your head?

[@tiffanyholman4028]

I mean, if there's demons among us, your god is the one who's letting them roam around. You're going to pray to someone who allows it all to happen?

[@JFskeezix]

9:34 "sex essentially represents power" Seriously? Sex ultimately represents the climax of love of a married couple and is key to the health and growth of humanity. It has nothing to do with power. Only twisted forms of sex do, but those are not representative.

[@Juliette_Emelie]

I don’t think she meant sex in general represents power. More so what him having sex (raping) animals represented in this case. That to him, sex represented power.

[@LonelyCinderella123]

Sex isn't love either. We just have a culture right now of mostly having sex with romantic partners. Physical urges drive sex.

[@3BK235Y]

40:42-40:53 Typically German, typically European explanaion for murder. Fom that perspective, they are lagging behind the most modern scientific thought. Geoffrey Wansell knows better. And keep in mind that "sentenced to life imprisonment " in Germany 40:22-40:30 means something quite diffferen from what many people have in mind when they use that expression.

[@scarletmacaw]

He ain’t shit compared to Bundy.

[@zo9690]

…. No need to compare crime. Lives were lost and it’s very sad and upsetting:(

[@girvanherman2111]

Why are there always excuses beimg made for these evil people? Smh

[@twincherry4958]

Trying to find out why...some people are just evil.

[@girvanherman2111]

@666 i am absolutely sure that you can read and comprehend.

[@dw.baltimore]

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[@Larkinchance]

"M"

[@monsterx3055]

evil or hungry? you decide!

[@Oculoustuos]

Kroll was not the wickedest man. Nearly every German was equally wicked in the 20th century.

[@leob1835]

When I saw a pig slaughtered I went vegan!!

[@TaddiestMason]

Really? I worked in a pig slaughterhouse. It’s really not bad at all. The animals are already unconscious when they’re coming in so they don’t even know they’re dying.

[@zebschreiber7357]

When I saw a pig slaughtered I suddenly wanted bacon

[@faraway-2009]

Are they unconscious? Wow. All the animals I see slaughtered are living and you can hear their cries as they die, that nearly made me vegetarian.

[@AFROJOE2323]

me too leo!

[@idebouldin5366]

KZbinrs getting stupid with these damn ads

[@prince1187]

If someone would have just put out 😂😂😂

[@caseyjimenez7925]

O..