The Mysterious Disappearance Of Pamela Bischoff | Dark Waters Of Crime | Real Crime

[@abigailfreeman715]

At 9.00 the Police officer says he accused the boy, and he never batted an eyelid, or reacted “suspiciously” in any way. The fact that the boy didn’t react, when accused of rape and murder, IS SUSPICIOUS! If someone accuses you of raping and murdering a child, and you are innocent, you are going to really react, and get offended at the accusation. This is a huge red flag, and the fact the Police Officer says he did not react suspiciously when accused, is naive.

[@TeeJayDeluxe]

Officer was poor I think. He said a few dodgy things like that

[@angelam886]

No you misunderstood. The kid was a suspect in the polices eyes the whole time. He was just trying to highlight how calculated and amazingly calm this kid was with no reaction.

[@lilylily9272]

Good point

[@Happyhippy70]

Kids are resilient aren't they. I would say he bounced back quite quickly. If a cop were to accuse me. I wouldn't scream I didn't do anything. I would instantly get a lawyer. Mind you I think my eyeballs would pop wide open in surprise. With a WTF look on my face.

[@abigailfreeman715]

@@Happyhippy70 agree there would be some reaction if you were innocent.

[@היילימור]

8 years is ridiculous. Such a slap in the face for the parents. He should get minimum 28 years for killing a 14 year old. What is the world coming too. Sad and very disappointing for all parties involved This isn’t justice at all. My heart aches for the family

[@WorknotWoke89]

That's Canada's Judicial system for you

[@bwghall1]

18 years would make more sense.Those defence Lawyers do not want justice for that poor girl plus Mummy & Daddy, They should also be in Jail for helping a killer. not building a name for themselves.

[@nancyharris255]

@@bwghall1 In Canada if they are a juvenile at the time the crime is committed they can only receive 8 years. At 17 they can be tried as an adult, but even then, life in prison is 25 years. It is not the same as the American Judicial system. Unless an adult is given a dangerous offender label in Canada, they are not going to be in jail for more than 25 years for a single crime.

[@xxx041189xxx]

I wonder if he's out now and what horrendous things has he done since. Did not manage to find anything with my first searches.

[@ec8787]

@@WorknotWoke89Canada’s judicial system sucks.

[@cathymcglasson6947]

8 years this is not good he should never walk free again no matter what age.

[@joli395]

Agrree. He is already walking free looking for the next victim.

[@cathtf7957]

I agree. There were aggravating circumstances. The biting shows sadistic personality. I bet he still takes victims from time to time.

[@cathtf7957]

I agree. There were aggravating circumstances. The biting shows sadistic personality. I bet he still takes victims from time to time.

[@Dustandfuzz]

I agree. Sets it up for other boys to go out and do the same. He got eight years for rape and murder, then he would have got two for rape alone. Boys would like that ok. Sets a bad precedent.

[@sandicmxr]

A mother's intuition isn't to be trifled with. My mother would know when something was wrong with me. I'd be going through something and I'd get home and there'd be a message that she was worried and wanted to know how I was. I really miss her.

[@joantjef]

Have the same with my kids

[@Truelyblue333]

❤

[@elainelessack]

I have had the same experience so many times! At first my son was startled to hear that I knew that he was troubled, but soon he became used to it. I still ask him if all is well when I feel something is amiss, and inevitably there is! My son lives hundreds of miles away and is 36 years old! Mother's intuition is a wondrous gift! 💕🌟💕

[@Squidlark]

@@elainelessack That's not a mother's intuition, you're just paranoid.

[@joli395]

I thought they said he would be judged as an adult. Why did he get only 8 years?!!! This is so unjust!!!!! Poor poor Pamela's parents!!!! Truly heartbreaking case.

[@violagentsch]

Canada

[@samdoors5132]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Eight years is a slap in the face I hate to say this but that judge needs to lose a loved one through violence And see how he likes it

[@heather11]

Life in prison is Canada is 25 years. Pretty much how it goes there.

[@Ecstasio]

Nothing can heal their hearts but I'll say this as a parent myself. I'd be happy to have him released, it would save me from having to go to jail to kill him. No I am not politically correct, I am a Dad.

[@milagroscabrega7879]

Evil guy😈😈😈8 years is not enough why🤔🤔🤔

[@MochaPony]

Every case is heart breaking. This one hits hard as I’ve never seen a case that happened in my community. I remember when this happened and it still is hard to watch in 2022. Sending love to her family.

[@cathimummery6873]

Good RCMP officer 😊

[@samdoors5132]

Well he got away with murder eight years is disrespect to the family it’s a shame there are such a weak laws in Canada

[@ejanielaji2332]

🇨🇦 Humm" You can say that again it's a fact.its my home.& So sad for the family😓My Condolances.🙏

[@sistagalsistagal8136]

A young man in Sydney Australia drank and drugged himself silly, went drive to the local alcohol shop for more, drove on the wrong side of the road, and abused pedestrians in doing so, and he killed three children of the same family and another child, a cousin. Total four small children, just old enough for their parents to feel good enough to let them all go to the corner shop for a icecream one sunny sunday afternoon, every child's dream. His original sentence was life, 25 years in Australia. Two years later his sentence was reduced to 15 years, thats 3 years and 9 months for each innocent small child's life, that's what this weak law of our land values a innocent child's life! SO NOT RIGHT!!!

[@marsaeille]

Same type of sentences in Denmark 😳

[@Ida-Adriana]

It’s not just Canada, many places are like this

[@stellaperez1699]

@@sistagalsistagal8136 I think I've seen a documentary about it. The kids I think 6 of them went to a shop to buy ice cream. So sad.

[@Tiffany03258]

I really give it to the ppl that go into dark water searching for bodies. I don’t know how I would be able to handle this. You guys are doing an amazing thing!! God bless everyone affected by this personally

[@liverbirdxoxo1984]

Mad the cop says when he accused Billy, Billy didn't react at all, nothing suspicious... to me, the non reaction is suspicious... if I was accused of murder n rape, I'd be reacting in some way!

[@50Shawnee]

He is a demon.....has no soul.

[@tanyasmith7123]

Never react when innocent there is nothing to prove when your innocent.

[@yanou_671]

@@tanyasmith7123 keep dreaming

[@tessmoore3762]

Exactly the fact that he could stand there and look the officer in the eye and not react was very telling. He not only did it, he was very cold about it. It should have been rape and 1st degree murder.

[@BeRightBack131]

Yeah, I agree. I'd probably have an angry reaction to being accused of something I didn't do, but not sure. Probably a confused look on my face at the very least...

[@katence1982]

If he could do that as a "child", imagine what he can do as an adult

[@alexislee9763]

Child or not...lock him up in a mental institution for 50 years

[@DrBozoEinstein]

He probably will.

[@HobbyOrganist]

And the goody-two-shoes right wingers think their god and "rehabilitation" will fix everything, but who gives a damn about "rehab", jail is for PUNISHMENT!!

[@chloeuntrau4588]

juvenile...

[@KE-xj9vm]

The divers… what a job! Strength in character to anyone that dives in those conditions and finding a body is a job well done.

[@DrBozoEinstein]

Thankfully, there are many people dedicated to the truth and to justice. These divers and police officers, (men and women), are people with children of their own, and can empathize. Mature souls in an insane society.

[@bryantotten2757]

Absolutely

[@mqoh_misfitt5126]

Only 8 years! He is out and enjoying his life, still young!

[@jennifercrandall7648]

This is despicable!

[@joli395]

@@jennifercrandall7648 So unjust!!! Poor parents. Pamela did not get justice.....

[@mqoh_misfitt5126]

@@jennifercrandall7648 you know what😔

[@mqoh_misfitt5126]

@@joli395 he should have been charged as an adult 🤷‍♀️

[@tessmoore3762]

@@mqoh_misfitt5126 And executed.

[@conitorres9774]

Damn, he gets to enjoy sunshine and fresh air, Television and maybe finish his education, not to mention learning how not to get caught in future. His victim? She gets a cold, dark grave. Disgusting 🤬

[@lilaregnier5570]

I agree I think he should have been sentenced for jail for life I truly don't understand 🤒

[@kittykat8177]

@@lilaregnier5570 should have been sentenced to death

[@noriwilliams4637]

As a parent i would have to take the law into my own hands,

[@blacksapphirerain]

The murder scares me, the psychopathic cool behavior after terrifies me. It means he’s likely to do it again.

[@braam7719]

Injustice to Her and Her family! 8 Years is a joke!! All about his rights! What about her rights???

[@tufalike1796]

I will never understand why parents think it's ok for 14 year youngs to go out and "party" all by themselves! what the heck!

[@cathtf7957]

If they aren't permitted to go and do what they want then they kick up a lot of trouble at home.

[@jlynn468]

Most of the time the parents are unaware of exactly where they end up going. You can't follow them around. Do you have kids?

[@kathiesimmons7296]

Most parents have to work, some 12 hour shifts.

[@birdie9240]

Yeah, at 14 I was at home by 7, watching the discovery channel with my dad. lol

[@cashflowglo7262]

All of the replies to your comment are correct. At 14 I was incorrigible . I of course had rules etc but I did my own thing too. I snuck out all of the time. If I did go to hang out with friends and had a curfew. I d make it back home on time visit then head to my room then sneak out and catch up with everybody… they my friends did exactly the same. We would have a place to meet up at and drink and smoke weed and all kinds of stuff. sometimes even on a “ school night “

[@secretservices1317]

nobody gonna talk about how spot on the mom was with her prediction

[@morganablackwater2017]

Mothers intuition... No need to comment on that

[@secretservices1317]

@@morganablackwater2017 um yea there's need

[@dustypawz1871]

@@secretservices1317 fool

[@PennyPaws4]

@@secretservices1317 No, there actually isn't any need. Mother's intuition is universally understood/accepted as truth.

[@carolyn6001]

Incredibly sad for this young lady and her family. May you find peace and comfort. The justice system failed her. This is a travesty for her family.

[@crkturtle]

I'm sorry, did he say his boss told him to WAIT because it was the weekend, and it would cost more??? "We didn't check under that bridge, because there was no reason for anyone to be under there." HMM. SOUNDS LIKE A PERFECT PLACE TO HIDE STUFF.

[@augsdoggs]

I’m only 15 mins into this, but I had to pause it to see if the comments mention how incredibly inept this cop and his department sound! I don’t know why he would volunteer to be part of the retelling of this story. I watch a lot of true crime content and this just really stands out as amateur hour.

[@laurametheny1008]

Don't you get so tired and soul burnt angry about these consistent stories where they just ignore evidence or say kids ran away or REFUSE to release an innocent person while they try to find something to stick them with? That 24hr thing and stupid double Jeopardy. Seem designed to help the REAL perps get away. Titles coincidence? I wonder.. 🤬💔😪

[@laurametheny1008]

@@augsdoggs I don't think you've watched enough sadly. Or maybe you've been lucky in your choices. Almost every show or vid or whatever seems to have alot of stuff like that. I KNOW all police and judges aren't all corrupt or bad or just lazy, so why don't we hear more about good stories? Lawyers? Hmm. Debatable lol. Idk. Maybe it's mostly the older stuff where they didn't have all this scientific help that's rapidly expanding. Hope so🤘🤔💔

[@ginestrian]

@@laurametheny1008 Usually true-crime stories are about the hard police, forensics and the prosecution work. They take the challenge, they are creative, they don't give up, they are not perfect, but they deserve our respect and often even admiration. Nothing to do with this story about some lousy stupid lazy unprofessional low IQ characters who can't fulfil their basic obligations. The child is missing in the dead of night - they doubt if they should work or to spare a budget. They looked for the body only where it was easy for them, I suspect they still were caring about the budget more than about the human being. They let a stranger search for evidence, and they didn't explain to him the basic rules. Facepalm!

[@laurametheny1008]

@@ginestrian 🤘agreed.

[@mrsderulo1]

As a parent , I would never wait for this ridiculous justice system, I would take manners into my own hands

[@37rainman]

My thoughts exactly. If I were a brother, father, etc, I would be waiting for that 8 years to end.

[@davyanonymous9674]

You have to. The justice system is completely broken. They let murderers and rapists out of jail. It's a simple solution. Just put rapists and child molesters in prison into the general population. The prisoners themselves will take care of everything after that.

[@mrsderulo1]

@@37rainman 100% , I would make them wish they stayed in jail

[@larkefedifero]

THAT is for what people ought to have access to a gun. All other things / reasons for which firearms access is made so easy is PATHETIC - but for something like in this case, for when that guy gets out of jail? *Yes.* With an 8-year cap on the sentence, seems like the lawmakers have a lot to learn... 🤔

[@37rainman]

@@larkefedifero So. then when I go to a store to buy a gun, I should not get it unless I can explain to them that I need to kill someone who brutalized, raped, and killed my 14 yr old sister, and didnt get a proper punishment. Yes? It seems like that is what you are saying. Dont really thing that is going to fly well, or should Jus sayin

[@crystalfreeze4858]

So awful, it's so terrible and scary how many evil people there are in this world. Prayers for her friends and family, she is in Heaven now. She never has to feel pain or go through anything bad ever again.

[@SuperTonyony]

"Let's not look for her on a weekend, because overtime costs money." Our society disgusts me.

[@DocProcRealm]

Returns home with scratches, bloody, does laundry and takes a shower for two hours¡ Things that make you go hmmm¡

[@sandiknits4174]

The police “That’s suspicious “ 😂

[@DocProcRealm]

@@sandiknits4174 something just doesn't seem right¡🐴🤡👮‍♂️

[@tanyabrown9839]

Plus the story of how the scratches occurred was a dead giveaway too and he was the last one seen with her. Im surprised they needed more evidence.

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@tanyabrown9839 well they needed actual evidence lol being suspicious of his story about the scratches & him being the last one the to be seen w her isn’t enough for an arrest and/or a trial

[@publicserviceannouncement4777]

@@isitoveryet9525 I think there needs to be more energy put into preventing crime but I get what you're saying... They can't do anything until a crime has already taken place.

[@moniquelove1158]

That had to be the most heartbreaking & devastating outcome for her parents. Rih🌷

[@merhawisyoum6385]

Canadian justice is too soft. If this case was in USA he would be serving 25-30 yrs if not life.

[@terribongers2465]

Yes they are sentenced to 20 years and out in 8. Unfortunately there is ‘no truth in sentencing’

[@donnamaclean9280]

yes ..our justice system sucks

[@sunnyday157]

Absolutely, remember Karla Homolka, disgusting!

[@derekstocker6661]

Brilliant police efforts and even wonderful work by the dogs, the dear victim and her loved ones as usual with commonwealth so called justice let down so very badly. Just eight years for this life taken so brutally, RIP Pamela, you deserved so much better.

[@jameshughes525]

8 years is a joke which is why this won't be the last time we hear about this guy being involved in S.A and murder. It's a common theme in all these stories they always start off with a chance to put someone away forever but by not doing so gives them a chance to do it again to someone else. So as far as I'm concerned they will be directly responsible when it happens again because they had the chance to make sure that it didn't and failed

[@derekstocker6661]

Well said, the public know this but the stupid judges ignore it, more compassion for killers than innocent members of the community.

[@shawnaleanne]

I agree. My uncle was arrested in 2016 for a double rape and double murder of 2 girls 13 and 12. It was a cold case from 46 years ago. He literally got away with it for 46 years…..but here’s the kickers…2 years before the girls murders my uncle was arrested and put into a mental facility for a double rape in a park in Chico California. I wasn’t born until the 80s so I didn’t know about any of this. The second kicker is he was a registered sex offender before he assaulted and killed those girls. He lived down the block from them and continued to live right by the families for 45 years. Growing up I was around my uncle a lot. I never seen him act any weird way to anyone around me. But when I was 14 he did touch my private area over my pants. I had no idea what to think. Then over the years I would hear stories about abuse he committed. My point here is this…the moment he was convicted of raping 2 women while holding knives to their necks in a park he either should of been killed or put away and never let go. But because he wasn’t he raped and killed those girls and sexually assaulted several other people including family. I have no sympathy for him. My love for my uncle died the day I realized I never actually knew the real him. I can not be one of these people who let that stuff go. Several lives could of been saved and victims who didn’t have to become victims if they would of done the right thing the first time. Now you may ask is he still alive and if so how much time did he get…..and that’s where it disgusts me.yes he is still alive and he was given a minimum of 6 years in prison and will be allowed to ask for parole every year after that. Lots of people tell me they won’t let him out but I know that’s not true. Fact is after 6 years they can and I’m sure eventually will. The judge said they couldn’t give him the death penalty because that wasn’t offered at the time of the murders. I say there’s your problem why is he getting a sentence from 46 years ago and that s.o.b lived 46 years free and wasn’t caught until 2016…the worlds systems rely on victims. They need people to suffer so we are broken. I hate my uncle. I can’t love anyone like that. And the people who do these types of things to anyone let alone children have to be dealt with immediately. But as u can tell that’s not the case.

[@lucha.h.g966]

I'm so sorry 4 you girl having a person like him in ur family..💔

[@shawnaleanne]

@@lucha.h.g966 to be fair I haven't claimed him in a long long time. And there's a lot of people like that on this planet.

[@sciencenotstigma9534]

Can we not say “From the presence of semen, we could tell she had sex”? It was SA…she was a victim. Please have some respect.

[@piperjaycie]

I was like, she did not have sex!!! That is not the word for that!!!!

[@Ellieangel777]

Exactly, she was freaking RAPED and murdered, she did not have sex. Idiots...

[@morganablackwater2017]

Peoples who use "sex" and "rape" like the same word disturb me deeply

[@shaunbarnett2972]

There's a slim chance they had sex consensually and then had the fight/altercation afterwards. You can't possibly know for sure. Perhaps he didn't perform very well and she made him feel humiliated. And so then he reacted by beating her. You don't know factually whether it was rape or not. that's probably why they use the terminology they used. You always need to be able to distinguish fact from speculation. But personally yes it seems most likely she was raped and then murdered in cold blood.

[@ClaireBeatty]

@@shaunbarnett2972 it was rape because of her age. At 14 she could not consent.

[@Mosaic_Crone]

I've been a mother since 1994. There's no way I could tell you exactly what under garments my children are wearing on any given day since the day they stopped needing me to dress them. Even now that we only have 1 teen still living at home there's no way I could tell you what undergarments are missing because she doesn't always come home from her father's in what she wore over there. The contents of her closet & dresser are constantly changing.

[@tanyabrown9839]

I think most would know though as how many bras do most teens have? I think my teen daughter only had two or maybe three at that age. So it would be fairly easy to work out what bra isn't in the draw and the obvious thing then is to see if the matching knickers to the bra is about or not.

[@birdie9240]

Maybe just because it was bright pink? 🤷🏻‍♀️ agreed, though… doing laundry and buying bras, you would have a decent idea of what they have in their drawers… but it wouldn’t just be something I would be able to just throw out… 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@birdie9240]

@@tanyabrown9839 I don’t think “most would know”, but a bright pink bra might be easier to remember…

[@mariatorres9789]

I thought that was weird,too. Maybe she'd walked in on her dressing on accident? Maybe they were all girls in the house & didn't bother closing doors when changing? Maybe it's a small house & they shared a room? Idk, it is odd.

[@NoirFan84]

Does it matter?

[@mqoh_misfitt5126]

He killed her and then wants to kill himself 😳 what a coward!

[@MetaMortis21]

Well because he was doing it to escape prison time does make him a coward…but it takes balls for someone to go through with it…which is why he didn’t. That stupid saying about suicide being the cowards way out isn’t always right. I think it’s only cowardly when one is trying to avoid being captured/punished by the law.

[@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380]

It's a pity he didn't kill himself BEFORE he killed her...I mean, so he couldn't do it.

[@raidenwolfe6495]

Her poor parents 😪 this was one disgusting miscarriage of justice...no shade to the police..they were amazing...I seriously don't know how lawyers even sleep at night...my heart breaks for her mum 😔 I am so so sorry

[@ginger7344]

Being a dog trainer/handler seems like a super awesome rewarding job.

[@sharlenel8211]

This detectives comments saying he believes billy didn't know. Man went home, showered for hrs, washed everything... But he didn't know she was dead. Christ.

[@Smorss2011]

Nova Scotia police. What do you expect?

[@zombiechicken7114]

What a huge waste of time forcing a retrial then as he wouldn't comply letting the evidence used before be used again. The poor family going thru all this for a selfish vile young man who couldn't man up and confess. He should have got life.

[@Ali-kb8gr]

8 years?!? That's insulting.

[@michaelhoggarth89]

Mrs H ...🇬🇧 8 bloody years ...What an insulting sentence...Her life was worth much more than that.... He committed an adult crime he should of been judged as an adult .... Can't imagine what Pamela's parent have to live with ... So let down by the system.. So unjust...💔😡

[@aliamthenoob]

hell be out late 20's out to do it all over cus whats 8 years.

[@vickiehadd4324]

THIS GIRLS LIFE WAS ONLY WORTH 8 YEARS?? 😢😓😱

[@cathtf7957]

It wouldn't have been eight years. You can get out after serving much less than that in Canada. " Good Behaviour"

[@mtaylor7307]

Through the 70s in the US, 7 years served was the max. Abusive men used to get out and do it again.

[@MsLilac88]

This is not right, he should be given life imprisonment without any parole. 😰

[@xxx041189xxx]

And it was a RAPE and MURDER not a car accident for god's sake.

[@judibiggerstaff8054]

She was also raped.

[@MsLilac88]

This is extremely heartbreaking. 😢 I pray for the family to find justice for their murdered daughter. 😢

[@Luna.3.3.3]

So much for 'friends' who leave a young girl alone with a guy they barely know.🙄

[@sailormf]

Yeah that shocked me. My best friend and I partied when we were teenagers and I’d never ever let her stay with some stranger especially when intoxicated even if I had to drag her away with the rest of us 😞 It doesn’t make it their fault obviously if they were drunk and making bad decisions because of that but it’s still so sad.

[@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380]

Especially if they considered him a weirdo.

[@Luna.3.3.3]

@@sailormf Even when I was that age and would party just like this ('field parties') No Way in Hell would ever us gals ever left one behind. NO WAY

[@abigailfreeman715]

And I am sorry to say, that the parents are negligent. Who in their right mind, would allow a 14 year old to be in a wooded, remote area, along a dark river bank, at night, with a mix of aged teens, no parental supervision, or curfew. What the hell! She was thrown to the lions.

[@katesleuth1156]

@@sailormf I hope that today young people are being educated on the importance of never leaving any venue without their friend. There are many murder cases that can be used as examples.

[@olabenne5519]

I'm speechless..Best effort by the law enforcement

[@psychojpsychoj2801]

It is too bad that STREET JUSTICE hasn't prevail in this case. We all know that he is guilty. What should it matter how the evidence was obtained. The evidence proved his guilt so it isn't as if the police planted the evidence. He did it and only served 8 years for murdering a 14 year old child. Karma is a BITCH but oftentimes it takes too long to see. I think street justice is best for these clear cut cases that the people is found guilty.

[@1888.cfc.]

Yeah absolutely. The judiciary system is ran by pd0z and fr33masons. They look after their own. Child murderers/molesters should be sentenced to death.

[@alysononoahu8702]

Rule of law

[@purebloodheretic4682]

We Need to Bring Back Medievel Justice For Rape & Murder, Not a Pathetic 8yrs!! This Guy would be Released in his Early 20's -Thats not a Punishment for Rape & Murder of a Young Innocent Girl - A Life for a Life I Say!! 👍

[@shannonricks2818]

It seems like NO reaction to being accused,, is just as suspicious as a suspicious reaction.... maybe even more

[@amyclare5377]

Neat when stories pop up that are close to home. Hits harder for sure

[@shellydesormier4646]

I thought the dog just locates an article and “notifies” (I don’t know the term) his handler without picking the article up? All the handling of evidence was terribly sloppy.

[@aleanahsacar4214]

I have to agree. The moment he allowed an outsider go out there unsupervised by a police officer and collect evidence, the chain is broken. To be honest, it's sloppy police work. And goodness, 8 years for rape and murder? That's Canada for you.

[@blacksapphirerain]

That’s a reenactment, not what happened. I’m sure the dog alerted and the evidence was collected by hand.

[@juliestevenson9151]

Hellish he only got 8 yrs he should have got life her poor family what a terrible shame funny how criminals are always protected by loopholes in their cases

[@BarBaraWhorleyCrawfordESS]

Friends don’t leave friends alone.

[@Smorss2011]

Parents don't let little kids go out and drink or hang out with older teenage boys.

[@littlestangel4747]

Amazing parenting my mother can barely tell you what I am wearing on a daily this mom had a perfect down-to-the-underwear description. Great parenting and she still losses her baby its just so sad

[@cynthiahowell4756]

Great parenting? Are you kidding? 14 years old and out partying and drinking until all hours of the night? Say what you want if mama had been less lenient this poor GIRL may still be alive.

[@paulawalker5198]

Same with my mom. She's not capable of it. I am connected on that level with my daughter, however. So sad that someone can take a child from a mother, father, family and when confronted doesn't even break a light sweat. He got a slap on the wrist and it in turn slapped the family in the face. Such a shame.

[@KGee1981]

I find it very odd when a child goes missing the 1st thing a mother says is Billy raped her and threw her in the river.. Not check the river she parties there.. not she couldve been kidnapped or murdered or assaulted...she knew EXACTLY what happened. That gives me an icky feeling.

[@moviestargf]

the girl should’ve had issues with him before and that’s why the mom suspected him plus he was acting hella weird

[@Smorss2011]

@@moviestargf Could have...not should have.

[@mitradastafkan9803]

Never let your teens go out at night alone !!!

[@shaunbarnett2972]

lol It's precisely during your teenage years that you need to be going out and developing social skills. Something like this is very rare and no reason to lock your kids up in prison lol. Perhaps a better option is to teach your kids how to defend themselves, provide them with pepper spray or something like that.

[@cynthiacanales7111]

As a parent of many children, I would not allow my children to go out, We are the adults not the kids, they have to respect our discussions, I tell my youngest daughter Why I don't let her go outside with friends or spend the night at friends houses, It's a scary world 🌎,and parents need to take control of there children, maybe at the moment they'll be mad but than they will get over it, One day they will thank you for being there parent not a cool friend, many parents want to be friends with there kids that's crazy, just bond with them and love them.

[@silviabelluomini2456]

So wait a second..... This monster is now out??? Free ? Where is he ? Are they keeping a close eye on him??

[@sharlenel8211]

Canada's justice system is a joke so I doubt they are keeping tabs on him. Probably got out early for good behaviour too. 😬

[@janejeffrey5703]

As I grew older, now I knew why my mom kept me sheltered.

[@catalinasanchez5098]

8 years? Ridiculous. Pamela’s life is only worth 8 years?

[@grettagirl2884]

Why is it, in many countries, are the sentences imposed on the guilty, so lenient 🤔??? In the US, sentences imposed have teeth in them...

[@morticiaheisenberg9679]

The US still is too lenient on a lot of stuff for my taste. But still better than anywhere where the crown oversees the sentences, they are ridiculous.

[@shaddowgolden1054]

🤣 In the US the sentences are laughable. People getting life for drugs and less than 10 years for murder.

[@grettagirl2884]

@@shaddowgolden1054 I disagree.

[@andrybingaman7336]

My brother got 10 years for stealing a tool set from Home Depot that he dropped at the door while running out. He’s serving all his time since they denied him parole and gave him a serve out date. Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. He’s a non violent offender who made a bad choice and is paying for it with a decade of his life. But a 14yr old kid can brutally murder their entire family including little sisters and brothers, and because he’s a juvenile gets out when he’s 21! It’s absolutely ridiculous. I agree totally @ShadowGolden

[@JimmyWeberfromtexas]

Generally I agree with you about prison sentences in USA vs most other countries. However on this case the guy was sentenced based in his age when the murder took place. Frequently we do the same thing in USA.

[@alinadobro]

Oh God, keep our children safe 🤞

[@thomasvalentine4636]

If there was a god our children wouldn't be murdered

[@AdiG1]

@@thomasvalentine4636 Yes they would. There are many instances in the Bible where Yahweh killed infants

[@auzieblo]

Oh yeah, with all the innocent kids that went missing, got raped, molested, murdered, tormented, all over the world...Oh yeah looks like "our" god loves children so much, watches over them and always has their interest at heart. Please don't make me laugh 😂

[@Moodboard39]

If u can

[@alinadobro]

@@thomasvalentine4636 I know, we just want to believe it 💗

[@H_A_L_7]

8 yrs? This boy will kill again.

[@tymom9313]

Canadian court is pathetic! 8yrs wtf!

[@Moodboard39]

Other case 21 years

[@dianawatton7570]

I have always thought the USA had the worst criminal justice system but after listening to this video you've got us beat. 8 years for rape and murder? Sad. I don't believe the prison system can rehabilitate evil. Nebraska USA

[@josephzacharias7992]

"She put up a good struggle" is a contradictory statement. I'm sorry this young lady even had to struggle for her life though. People are sick.

[@piperjaycie]

She fought for her life is a better description!!!

[@timbazchivakanenyama5380]

My favorite channel. Watching from Zimbabwe Gokwe Nembudziya ❤️🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼👍

[@lisamontgomery99]

Any kid being questioned by the police would be nervous and show some type of emotion. Very suspicion he showed none!

[@mercedezz]

You should talk about Jordan Shaver- From Boise, Idaho. I went to school with her and no one ever covers it…but it’s a very crazy case. It was however once covered on the show “snapped” in one of the episodes…

[@gdeec]

This is Monsters does it and a few others too.

[@yasmeenkhans177]

Where is the justice For Pamela? She lost her whole life, it seems the law is on the side of the criminal who took away her young life. What is 8 years? It's a slap in the face for her heartbroken family. Rest in peace little angel 😢

[@unappealingundesirable2826]

I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American. Vancouver BC is my favorite place to visit. But, stories in CANADA really fascinate me, especially in British Columbia.

[@lisachilders6530]

Seattle fascinates me. Probably because of the Grunge movement. Are there any places in Seattle that celebrate Layne Staley and Kurt Cobain? I know they weren't born in Seattle but they are definitely connected.

[@unappealingundesirable2826]

@@lisachilders6530 I'll take a look! As much as I love true crime stories and sports, I am SO terrible and naive, when it comes to music and entertainment (I can't tell you the last movie I watched in a theater). I'm sure that one can find places for this, in Pioneer Square in Downtown Seattle, or one of those many music places on Broadway in Seattle.

[@carolyndee4565]

This is the most interesting and intriguing crime channel l have come across! It has alot of information and facts. Really interesting 🤔🤔 You can tell alot of time has gone into putting the videos together

[@heidimedel]

8 f*cking years!!!!!? Uuuuuugh 😑😠🥺

[@justinsidious9772]

He has scratches on his face. What is wrong with Canadian police? Bring him in for questioning.

[@janesmith4h]

I truly do NOT understand how people get more time for selling weed. Murder?!?!

[@markmike7933]

If the mother knew this kid was such a threat, why did she let her go alone to the hangout and not have another boy promise to walk him home?? Something has been left out of the story

[@zombiechicken7114]

I was wondering why the cop didn't question the mum more when she said she knew what happened. How did she know?

[@junederksen9205]

The laws in this country definitely protect the guilty, and generally re-victimize the innocent.

[@SamtheMan0508]

I think we can all figure out what happened that night.

[@kimberlyarrington5721]

Just my opinion and mine only but he came on to her she said no so he R worded and he didn't want her to tell so he killed her

[@SamtheMan0508]

@@kimberlyarrington5721 That sounds about right.

[@matthijs3134]

8 years.. I’d bury him myself if I was that girls dad

[@raidenwolfe6495]

100%

[@bethoughtprovoking]

I empathize with the sentiment, but that would you make you as much a killer as he, albeit with a different motive. The real way to go about it is through activism: laws need to be changed.

[@Emma0990]

You'd have thought given the fact that this is a serious documentary, someone would have told Sergeant Gilles Blinn that the word he should be using is "distraught" and that there's no such word as "distrauth". Twice he's said it in the first 8 minutes and I can't cope! 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[@birdie9240]

Literally commented this! Finally saw another comment that picked that out too! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤪

[@helene3173]

@@birdie9240 He is French-Canadian; these sounds are very difficult to replicate for French speakers. He actually expresses himself very well.😊

[@mariatorres9789]

I give him an "E" for effort. Lol.

[@birdie9240]

@@helene3173 understood. Just seemed like he read it and said it phonetically. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Emma0990]

@@helene3173 I would have thought "t" would be a lot easier to pronounce than "th" for a french speaker? 🤔

[@marycrawford3460]

8 years for murder? No justice.

[@avern7369]

We’ll be able to figure out how he killed her from the way he kills the next girl that pisses him off.

[@scarlettkelsey2929]

The justice system is a joke! Except of course when it touches one of them or theirs. This case sickens me to my stomach, and that "sentence" equally sickens me. Susan Hal, I'm with you.

[@janeaparis]

I am always amazed by punishments in Canada and England. If he lived in America, he would have probably got life. But in Canada, they say we will throw the book at him and give him 8 years. Ridiculous. A criminal's paradise.

[@susanharting4545]

She’s only 14 years old and she’s out with a group of kids drinking beer? There’s your first problem.

[@mtaylor7307]

We went out in groups that age and our parents let a group of girls go on a survivalist camping trip with the oldest person age 17. Lots of parents do it with no negative consequences happening. They do it because they did it themselves. The saying is, it's all good until somebody gets hurt.

[@curiouser-and-curiouser]

@@mtaylor7307 That is such a farfetched unreasonable response, it could only come from a child. If you're not a child then being raised like that explains your ridiculousness.

[@sadiefalco4673]

It mentioned already that they were under the impression all the children knew each other. 14 year olds tell their parents they are at each other’s houses and then go for walks outside, it’s a HUGE part of youth activity in New Brunswick as it is so rural.

[@mtaylor7307]

@@curiouser-and-curiouser I didn't say it was Right just because my parents and neighborhood adults did it and allowed us to. I'm saying it happened. And it wasn't an isolated thing.

[@mtaylor7307]

@@curiouser-and-curiouser By the way? What we had to fear in harms way mostly came from the adults and older teens at our church and schools. Sexual Assault and molestation was not uncommon. Usually the victims were blamed. That's why I support Erin's Law. Our area only had one kidnapping/carjacking of a young adult when I was growing up and that murder made national news because at the time it was rare.

[@lisabrickner6004]

Poor Baby girl.. If I had a little girl or even boy I would be extra vigilant in keeping them safe... Because I know how evil people are.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload during my September 2022 birthday month!

[@MaryTheresa1986]

Happy Birthday! 🥳🎂🎆🎇🎆🎇🎈🎈🎉🎊🎉🎊🎁🎁

[@Flamsterette]

@@MaryTheresa1986 Thanks!

[@motaka3381]

Have an absolutely wonderful birthday

[@michhaynes7272]

Sick, he had no remorse, no care in the world yet he gets 8 years for taking a whole life from this young lady. This is clearly not justice and the boy who has many years to reoffend has been given every chance to. He is clearly very dangerous, the system is a joke.

[@SaintsCheat]

8 years?!? People get locked up longer for smoking pot 🤦‍♂️

[@robinmead5512]

So he got an extra 6 years of freedom and 8 years of imprisonment. Do you think he ever looks at his children and wonders what it would feel like to not have them there, safe.

[@Dustandfuzz]

Who would want to have children by him. Not safe!

[@Smorss2011]

He has children?

[@TheKnitch]

Dudes like saying panties way too much. Cops sound like creepers.

[@skyeblu1722]

I totally agree! There’s something very disturbing about this cops voicing the word panties repeatedly…..creepy!

[@Bcaus3_]

I thought the same the whole time and he smirks.

[@fluermor..]

I felt so uncomfortable hearing him repeat it.🥴

[@sillyboy1]

@@fluermor.. agreed 😬

[@dinarusso3320]

Wow I thought the justice system here in the USA is bad, but in Canada it's a JOKE! 8 years, here that monster would never get out!

[@andrewemery4272]

Not the brightest cops ever

[@ginestrian]

You have put this the kindest way possible. I'd say, "what a bunch of morons".

[@ginger7344]

@@ginestrian you have put that nice too, I’d say dipshits 😂

[@gloriabaker1953]

8 years??? Wtf is wrong with Canadian justice system???

[@Bebecat477]

8 years? I would never accept that.

[@lcandsps1052]

(12:30) You shed 600,000 skin cells a DAY or about 7 skin cells a SECOND, not "thousands and thousands of skin cells a second."

[@VVilla-zh5mw]

8 YEARS only wow ?!!! 🙃 I still can't believe that murderer release in prison after ending someones life💀

[@tammyjackson5927]

Heartbreaking, don’t let your kids grow up to soon

[@cathybassett6432]

Spoiler Alert: 8 years!!!!! She was 14!!! What a travesty. He'll get out and do more harm.

[@gingerstoudt6978]

Eight years is a very weak sentence for rape and murder:(

[@Anticipat0r]

This guy is married I heard. What classless women would marry him. Maybe he didn't tell her some1 follow up.

[@sunnyday157]

So sick

[@raecardi4869]

The man that is clearly having a hard time holding back his tears while speaking about this case has me absolutely choked. Poor baby. I have a daughter myself and I could never even begin to imagine losing her. Children are precious blessings and they seem to be the main ones on the receiving end of such tragic demise.

[@MsLilac88]

Sex offenders should be severely punished with a heavier jail sentence, life imprisonment without any parole. 😰

[@honorladone8682]

RIP baby girl. Philadelphia USA

[@interstellarconundrum4774]

The goal of the Canadian justice system is to protect the criminal at all costs.

[@maryagregory6523]

I remember when I was about that age, living in NJ and we all went together to a wooded area on a hill overlooking the Hudson River and drank beer. However, we all also left together.

[@Septentria]

a predator remains a predator and jail isn't knowed for making better people ......

[@TeeJayDeluxe]

Appeal after appeal? Disgusting. 2nd degree murder! That poor kid. She didn’t get justice.