For a woman who was having an episode of psychosis, she sure did some big manipulation and big planning
@Tina060196 ай бұрын
1:14:16 Of course, they should not have killed anyone, but my Lord! They should NOT have involved their teenage son.
@barbarabrooks47477 ай бұрын
When she stole her relative's money, she should have been put on probation for 10 yeats with conditions that she take her medication with a witness watching and complete a residential gambling program or be sent to prison. She wouldn't have deteriorated into further crime if she had been given strict parole conditions or jail plus strict probation conditions.
@willowhofmann74096 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, unless you are actually in a committed environment controlled committed judicial environment, you cannot force someone to take their medication. Now. The conditions of a 10-year probation they could test her for it and reincarcerate her if she was found to be lacking it in her bloodstream but that wouldn't have stopped the murders. I know of people who are on 3 days a week drug testing who are still often high as kites. Pardon the term. But there's ways around every kind of test. Except for DNA.
@AlexAndra-iy5zu6 ай бұрын
Come on man! Why does the reporter call her victims a frumpy look a like grandma? Thats not nice 🤦🏻♀️
@Otis13307 ай бұрын
Poor Pamela, the fact that she was in Florida to scatter her husband’s ashes makes her death even more tragic. My deepest condolences to her family.
@noliboli475 ай бұрын
I told myself hopefully she would at least be with him now, because it is supremely messed it.
@FigaroHey5 ай бұрын
Back in the 1970s I read in the newspaper a story about a woman who had embezzled thousands of dollars from her employer... the mother of a kid I was in primary school with. Just a 'normal' family, normal mother. Another primary school kid's father died from complication from diabetes and it was in the newspaper that the police were suspicious when the wife and young son put his body out on the porch for collection by the coroner. Turned out to be a hoarder house, decades before hoarding became common knowledge. The dead husband/father had only one leg, and nobody could figure out how he coped in a house that was so jam-packed with stuff. I think in the end the house was condemned and bulldozed, it was so far gone (the news reported feces smeared on walls, among other hygienic issues). You just never know what goes on behind the closed doors of people who seem to be functioning normally.
@carolhale43315 ай бұрын
Addictions ruin everything.
@lesare65097 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for Pamela’s family & Pamela herself, so trusting & innocent. I’m not sure how many times Pamela took vacation there by herself but I would want my Mom to go with a friend. The family must be devastated. I hope they found peace. 🙏❤️. I’m wondering if the story about her husband was true, I can see him being frustrated by her gambling problem, but to kill him is so awful & disgusting, she just wanted freedom & money. Terrible, evil selfish woman.
@willowhofmann74096 ай бұрын
How do you not know that your conversations from prison are being recorded? There are literally signs.
@Tm-ox7bo5 ай бұрын
And it tells you at the beginning of the call😂
@guest47965 ай бұрын
@@Tm-ox7boExactly 💯 I know this watching from KZbin 😅
@triciaskiles5 ай бұрын
Maybe it's different in other countries? Or they didn't watch enough true crime stories to know😂
@pattymelt-go3fv5 ай бұрын
I was horrified when casino gambling was made legal in my state. How does a government justify legalizing something that is very addictive and detrimental to a percentage of it's citizens, to pay for "better education" of our children? Or just make a few of us very rich... At the very least gambling needs to be restructured. Some convenience stores in my neighborhood have stopped selling lotto. I asked why? They told me, because scratch offs are mandatory if you sell state lotto. and employees of the convenience store just can't help themselves from stealing the scratch off tickets. They said only "family businesses" can sell lotto..because they can't refuse to sell scratch offs.
@christalake78994 ай бұрын
They just opened a casino in a county next to mine and I went in out of curiosity. I'm all for people having fun but the people I saw there didn't look like they were having fun and actually looked desperate and poor. The only winner will be the casino
@nopamineLevel1006 ай бұрын
Not justifying her behaviour, but I think there's more to Louis' backstory than this. Her husband probably didn't understand, or help her with her mental health and addiction issues. She was probably sick of her husband doing whatever he wanted whilst there was a social expectation for her to be the traditional grandma, not to mention the stigma around discussing your mental health problems. Obviously she didn't have to resort to homicide, but I think it's way more complex than just branding her a monster.
@marshapieroni66775 ай бұрын
Man, I think you might be reading way too much into that. I mean, how many husbands do you know who di what you're saying he didn't do. But one would think he tried like hell to get her to take her antipsychotic meds. This woman destroyed so many lives.
@rockapartie3 ай бұрын
A relative cannot help a psychotic person that doesn't want to be helped (she didn't take her medication); also, getting someone as addicted as she was off of gambling is next to impossible without professional help. The only thing that sometimes helps in serious cases like this is spending at least half a year in rehab.
@MrHusang237 ай бұрын
35:02 & 42:36 - He's really full of himself, despite this woman in the age of Big Brother was able to commit 3 murders and her own addiction made her fail, not the police's work. Somewhere before these timestamps, one of the guys say something along the lines of "if this person with an unreasonable addiction wouldn't have succumbed to her unreasonable addiction and acted unreasonably, because of her unreasonable addiction, she would never have been caught". Really? Then this makes Mr. Sheriff Man even more ridiculous.
@Shelly584856 ай бұрын
She looks so called Normal,we live in a SICK WORLD ANY MORE CANT TRUST ANY BODY
@dianneD276 ай бұрын
Good show , thanks 😊
@willowhofmann74096 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation I've heard from a murder investigator. "The forensic scientists start to do their thing." Honestly and most sincerely, I don't need more information. I get it and it is brilliantly stated.
@chinny786 ай бұрын
Do Luois think she can get away with murders after leaving trail of evidences. Her idea of killing is like dumber & dumber. Officers are just too slow in responding. Since officers learnt of her gambling habit, catching her would've been quicker if all casinos in south area were immediately alerted 📢
@careyashley83095 ай бұрын
Im American. Im assuming "boot of the car" means the trunk??
@IWantToEatRodyaFromLimbus4 ай бұрын
yes
@Bow-j6c5 ай бұрын
No different to drugs and alcohol, it's a addiction, Court's stopped her before it all happened but she had a big black hole that only innocent hard working people can fill ,She did this no one else,
@Bow-j6c5 ай бұрын
You never got her sheriff the bartender did ,
@patriciawiskoff69596 ай бұрын
I always said that you can't always look at someone and see that they are a psycho!!!
@morticiaheisenberg96795 ай бұрын
In the 2nd story, the only one I feel bad for is the teenage son. How horrible for your abhorrent parents to involve you like that?! And the other innocent children, of course.
@hardwired80846 ай бұрын
This person reminds me of Pamela Hupp.
@emiledarga93134 ай бұрын
Taking innocent lives just to throw away money at casinos. How utterly senseless and cruel.
@leeannalovestherain4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@TheTrueCrimeChannel6 ай бұрын
Insane
@JJ-mp5ye5 ай бұрын
He says Lois like Stevie 😂
@lenabeana884 ай бұрын
Lmao 😂 good show
@chloeuntrau45886 ай бұрын
What a bullshit story! they could have catched her much earlier! instead of looking what she is doing..
@FrankArce-of7zu5 ай бұрын
Catched ?❓❓❓
@jannea43185 ай бұрын
@@FrankArce-of7zuThank you. America has become a country of semi-literates. Very depressing.
@kellymurphy66426 ай бұрын
I keep thinking the forensic psychologist is Dr Lee, the pimple popper doctor
@TomikaKelly6 ай бұрын
That's crazy. Isn't she a dermatologist?
@kellymurphy66426 ай бұрын
@@TomikaKelly yes she’s the dr pimple popper on TLC in the US
@rockapartie3 ай бұрын
@@TomikaKelly It's clinical/forensic psychologist Judy Ho (check caption at 3:21)
@veggigoddess5 ай бұрын
The video was over halfway through yet they kept rehashing everything we had already seen and that they had already said. What the hell
@Starae3365 ай бұрын
I hate how these so called “experts” always place so much emphasis on the fact he was strangled! Shit maybe just maybe it was only a means to an end.
@estherrayos3 ай бұрын
The Mayfair omg and @Lapd two blocks away how sad 😔
@TriPham-yo7we6 ай бұрын
Too many maney and free identity for use even official identification with top secret clearance
@Udmudmudm6 ай бұрын
I miei complimenti per questo video interessante 👋👋
@simplyme29267 ай бұрын
Affair
@simplyme29267 ай бұрын
Oh maybe not
@williamhopkins70655 ай бұрын
Crooks never focus on getting away. Buy another car, from individual. Dye your hair. Lay low. Sleep in a car, or pay cash only in a sh1t motel.
@Katyahbib6 ай бұрын
It is true that bodies give off a foul odor when they're dead because they're a decomposing. Though if it was hot I could assume it would give off an even more foul odor. To describe how I would know this is for example if you've ever left leftovers in a container in the trunk of your car and you forgot about it. It's summertime and then like 4 days later you go to get it out of your car because you finally remembered it's in the trunk and you take it home to wash it. You then open it and you get that stench of rotting food smell mixed with the hot heat that made it smell even worse. I know it's only a small example but imagining how a body would stink even worse is gross. Yeah I couldn't imagine what a body would smell like but that's a nightmare incident for the hotel cleaning lady.
@caseyegherman7976 ай бұрын
I used to work in crime scene cleanup. Sometimes the bodies were so decomposed that they turned into liquid. Yes it is an odor that is like none other. If you smell it once you will never forget it. Of course, in those cases we were fully protected with air filter, masks
@LadyIarConnacht6 ай бұрын
One of our neighbor's mules died in its shed in the middle of summer and we couldn't even go outside. It was horrible. We finally called the cops and the cop said, "If you didn't trespass on their property, how did you know that their mule was dead?" Duhhhhhh.
@pla57306 ай бұрын
😮 it's an odor you'll NEVER forget.. it's not at ALL like rotting leftovers tho.. nor a dead animal...😮ironically it has a ' sweet ' smell
@jmh21056 ай бұрын
@Katyahbib You can know by the fact that |)eath is |)eath! Meaning, that iF you have ever smelled a dead Rodent... iT has the Same Crazy Horrific abhorrent Stench- only not in as Big and overpowering way that Human Decomposition. Another fact- as You astutely extrapolated... Rot is Rot! And things like Rotted Onions & Rotted Potatoes... Even Rotted Lettuce... when Left and Really Rotten, have an Unmistakably Horrible Stench that Clicks some internal Switch in humans, that we know to Flee it! And these 'Rotted' things are Very Reminiscent of Decomposed Body... So, you May get or Have a very good iDea of what that Awful, Unmistakeable, & horrendously Unique [one of Very Few Oders that , Club-you-over- the-Head... w/ the Stench], and are UnForgettable! •You did Very Well in using your own experience to feature what that smell must be Like!
@jmh21056 ай бұрын
The body also starts to decompose as soon as |)eath occurs! Many ppl don't realize that it is even Faster than say 'Leaving Meat out on a warm counter'. A Body will have Flies and Maggots and Stink BAD way before a 'Roast left out' would!! Unique to |)eath, & Human D3ath in particular.
@Bebecat4776 ай бұрын
That second case, wow. Took a lot of energy.
@chrizihart30164 ай бұрын
The poor son 😢
@CiprianaLeme4 ай бұрын
Why did the cheating wife kill her lover again? Still didn’t get the motive at all.
@iceceestudio4 ай бұрын
Because her lover, Tanvir, made a decision that he no longer wants to have a double life. He wanted to dispatch her and just focus on his main family. He made her feel she's just his side course despite having two children with her.
@Leifmommy6 ай бұрын
Why you called stolen identity Why
@molliwilson56396 ай бұрын
Because that’s what she did? Then she killed her. Why is this confusing to you?
@mishonwhite1115 ай бұрын
Dear God, please don't let anymore grandmothers end up like Lois Reese
@JaneOsbourn-j2l5 ай бұрын
And here's my thing. You're only hearing her s out of the store. You're hearing what the police are saying that they think in the reason that this stuff happened. You are really in the sophomore think why did she do it? You didn't ask her why she did it cause I guarantee? It's got something to do with something much bigger with the way that he treated her. And I could be wrong but 9 times out of 10. This is actually the truth. It's the way that he treated her and that's why she don't want him to do with whatever and that's why she's trying to take everything that he's got just because just because whatever the way he treated her and us, as viewers, none of us, know, the way. That their marriage was and the way that he treated her the way she treated him. Because we were not there
@cathymcglasson69477 ай бұрын
What a monster
@Joyce-vl7vo5 ай бұрын
Sad
@leeannalovestherain4 ай бұрын
Cool I like ur show
@careyashley83095 ай бұрын
Shes not the brightest criminal, is she?
@penieljesuszuniga7 ай бұрын
Both the grandma and the young woman are very gorgeous women who became monsters and live among men. The prosecutors are very right. The devil doesn't come with two horns, long claws, and vampire teeth. She comes in the name and face of a friend, sister, brother, mother, father, cousin, nephew, neighbor, and angel. Only those who are religious and spiritual are able to see right through these masks and layers.
@anakrivak67396 ай бұрын
So, you claim that the devil is "she" ... How dare you?! So "he" cannot be the devil?!
@malina12396 ай бұрын
Religious people are most Ofen the monsters …
@MrRolloTomasi6 ай бұрын
@@anakrivak6739 The Devil is flexible; can assume whatever identity desired. ;)
@Lauriej1176 ай бұрын
Reasonable, intelligent and discerning people can see through the “ masks and layers” you are talking about. People don’t need to believe any fictitious god or deity to judge a person’s character.
@melissagreen_5 ай бұрын
@@Lauriej117 You are still blind.
@SeasonHeise-dj9dx4 ай бұрын
SO REPETITIVE!
@JaneOsbourn-j2l5 ай бұрын
I mean, so there's a certain things you should not say like if she had not stopped and spent this money at that casino and just actually drove through she would have made it there. You just gave the next person information information. So they will not stop anywhere whatsoever if they do not have to, and if they do. They're gonna use cash and try to hide the face. I mean, I'm not trying to be a b**** or anything, but that's just the way that it is when you say things like this on these shows. They're actually teaches people. My husband calls it. Murder p*** because I watch a lot and listen to a lot of the stuff. But the reason that I do is so that way. I know myself if something happens to me that. I will be able to leave evidence for the police. Because I already know certain things that they're looking for like pull. My hair out, leave it behind the toilet, bite my finger till I bleed and rub it, rub my blood on the edge of the toilet. If I'm in a bathroom you know, so they have my dna that's all it is it's just AD and a thing, same thing if I'm. Stuck in the trunk of a car someone kidnaps me. I will literally probably do something to myself to make sure my dna is left in that vehicle so that way. Police can find me or they know for a fact that I was in a vehicle even if it means so much is to p*** yourself. Your p has your dna in it. Maybe.
@redwoodxrings5 ай бұрын
Murderous granny on a k1ll1ng spree, does away with her doppleganger, whimsical intro music, got my popcorn, oh wait... This isnt a movie?!?!?!?! Oh, my! GRANDMA!!!!😮😮😮
@JoJoHOPPE-i7jАй бұрын
The second case, that woman was as crappy a mother as she was a mother! She forced her unfortunate son into a position that resulted in him ruining HIS life as well! The entire crime was unconscionable! The societal norms of the Pakistani culture are appalling and archaic. From arranged marriages (especially young girls virtually SOLD to old men) to first cousins wedding and breeding, none of it ever ends well. Naturally, it's the females who suffer the most. This woman, however, was simply a vile human whose actions were aberrant, no matter the culture. She was just full dark energy.
@LorettaHale63212 күн бұрын
Well she only has one gun???
@samanthadmamb55986 ай бұрын
Money, love and sex… root of murder
@IRIEnIDRIS6 ай бұрын
Well said!
@CandidaAlbicans-i6w6 ай бұрын
idunno, that prosecutor lady is scary, every second word she says is monster and killer . obv lois had mental health issues which they never even mention once she was arrested wtf gambling is an addiction so no, lois wasn’t thinking of covering her tracks. what is wrong with police and prosecutors? yes, she committed crimes but was she really in the right state of mind, did anyone even checked
@TomikaKelly6 ай бұрын
At a certain point, a verdict/sentence isn't just about the perpetrator or even the victim but about protecting the community at large. Mental illness or not, Lois was a danger to society and needed to be dealt with as such. "Killer" is who she is, and "monster" precisely describes her actions. The judge was correct.
@lizzayy-cg2ec5 ай бұрын
Wtf are you talking about?! Addiction doesn't excuse MURDER in this country.
@JoJoHOPPE-i7jАй бұрын
*...as crappy a mother as she was a wife
@CindyWitteАй бұрын
Now she’s making a movie and putting some of the families pictures in there that were not authorized to and HBO is putting it on TV and as a family I feel that that is wrong and she still doing wrong and she still making money and HBO still not talking to us about what they didnot give consent for pictures to be put in there. Somebody’s gonna pay for this with some money back and I get money for the movie too because you know what it’s me. I didn’t consent these things have to stop.
@CindyWitteАй бұрын
She knows exactly what she’s doing and she’s still doing it. That’s why she sold out the HBO and that’s why our pictures are in there. She knows how to hurt people.
@soniad63786 ай бұрын
they do not look similar
@molliwilson56396 ай бұрын
They don’t look alike.. but they look SIMILAR.. both had white hair; both are roughly the same age/ build/ weight/ height . When one looks at Drivers licenses for ID they often will glance at the ID ; I could see how she could fool someone .. ie people lose/gain weight; change their hair style; wear make up don’t wear makeup ..etc
@MariamStucki6 ай бұрын
🙄
@pbg92086 ай бұрын
17:42 what color is she supposed to be to make you feel better about yourself?
@mishonwhite1115 ай бұрын
Dear God, please don't let anymore grandmothers end up like Lois Reese