Reality of IT Industry | Career After 40 | Layoffs | Recession | Survive after 40-45 years of Age

Today we have with us our special guest Anand Vaishampayan sir who has almost 20 years of experience in the IT Industry. His career trajectory was no less than a roller coaster.
Within 4 months of joining the first company as a fresher, he got laid off.
But he didn’t lose hope and got another job with his hard work and consistency Today he is working as a Service Delivery Manager with almost 20 years of experience at Zensar Technologies. We have covered a lot of things that Freshers Experienced while going through their journey in the IT Industry
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CHAPTERS ⭐
00:00 Coming Up
00:23 Insights ⭐
3:06 Anand Sir's Introduction
4:39 आपने एक ही Company में 20 साल क्यों बिताए?
5:59 क्या 40 साल बाद किसी के Growth में Downfall आती है?
9:01 Anand Sir की Layoff वाली कहानी
11:36 Layoff के बाद एक इंसान अपने आप को कैसे संभाल सकता है?
13:37 Anand Sir's Old Memories (Life as a Developer)
16:33 Mindset Change After 40 years of age
18:27 क्या Introvert लोग Manager बन सकते हैं?
21:25 Are Managers over paid ?
24:23 Anand Sir का Onsite का अनुभव
27:46 Family Responsibilities के साथ-साथ आप Job Ko कैसे Manage करें?
31:10 Importance of Linkedin
34:16 आपके Hobbies क्या हैं Sir?
35:48 Conclusion
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[@CareerTalk]

Great to see the feedback Everyone 🙏. Thanks again to Ajay for inviting me on this Podcast. 42K views in 20 hours is great response. You may visit my KZbin and LinkedIn to stay connected for future 🙂.

[@chyanitsingh7052]

Bro you are the most negative person on the entire planet. You have got nothing else to share other than people getting laid off. I know you are doing it for views but do it properly show inspiring stories......

[@kartikey0208]

You are a person i feel i can trust not like someone like 'Manogar batra' that guy shakal se he immoral lagta hai but you sir you we feel trustworthy keep it up. ❤🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤🎉

[@akramansari5642]

Govt job salary In hand 45k as teacher 11th 12th class and IT job salary in hand 1.32 lakh as developer per month which is best to choose ?

[@ravijeeverma876]

@@akramansari5642 govt job

[@DaddyGranger69]

@@akramansari5642 only 45k for 11 12th idk which is better depends upon you you want less stress or more money teaching will be easier as you have to teach the same thing every year but in developement you have to continously learn and the increase in salary will also be far greater but you are to decide you dont really need a lot of money sometimes its better to just earn enough to survive and have more free time to spend with family.

[@baseball-cricketfever6281]

I met a group of people in Australia who think if you're still relying on salary after 50 years of age, you have chased wrong goals in your past life. It also means you can and need to take drastic reevaluation of your goals. They're not wrong because they're not working at the age of 55 but still making lots of money for their retirement.

[@TechnicalSuneja]

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[@parveenbegum8979]

Bro I can perform even after 40.its depending upon your mentality.

[@TechnicalSuneja]

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[@BeaProgrammer]

Got great insights from this video😀😀

[@amithaprabhu1266]

Must listen...Every point is useful Anand ji hats off

[@TechLead-DOTNET]

Very practical and real ground points discussed ..... Thank you so much

[@hirusalempuri3907]

Don’t get distracted just and just keep urself updated be vocal that’s all age doesn’t matter

[@slayer81]

Age doesn't matter in western country they always behave like young😂

[@yashvlogs6819]

​@@slayer81 Bruh , why the age will matter in IT industry, you have to sit and work on the laptop.

[@DeepeshDeomurari]

Todays guest is great man. He is personally helping 1 Lakh techie. Whatever he is saying is very true. I am certified career counselor also, he is bang on what people should do.

[@syedmuqeet]

Very insightfull podcast, Thanks a lot Ajay & Anand Ji,

[@kartikey0208]

Lovely podcast Lovely topic Lovely guest 🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻❤

[@tteejjj]

Following you both... amazing and favourite KZbinr🎉🎉🎉

[@pratyushpandit727]

This info. makes us understand bout the hard time & certainly this time

[@r2d2s2e2]

There is no specific age. In IT, people who update themselves with the current technology always stay relevant.

[@joysonmiller544]

Now no chances for skilled resources too

[@AmanKumar-fb9ug]

This is one of the best podcast in your channel. Really helpful

[@yashupadhye6203]

Going to market once a while and knowing our value is Gold Advice👌

[@bevdo-banno3169]

so you mean to say, forget family, kids, friends, outings, any other things just keep on going to market every 2 - 3 years to check whether you are market worthy or not? & end up being in this perpetual race of market worthiness with no prospects of ever settling?

[@yashupadhye6203]

@@bevdo-banno3169 who said to forget family friends and give up your time. Being in IT is continous learning and giving interview is to check our readiness to face any situation in case you get lay off or get nice opportunity. In order to switch you don't prepare a day before interview. Preparation is always continuos process. Daily you learn something new. I doubt even if you are working in IT or not.

[@idiot8779]

ANNAD IS GEMS, HE HAS NO GREEDS TO SHARE HIS EXPERIENCE AND GUIDE US.

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@Aijazkhan460]

Fantastic man! great session and tips from Anand sir.

[@ketanmuliya802]

Thanks Anand sir and Ajay ❤

[@rakeshjha6545]

Great experience to watch your discussion.

[@tteejjj]

You must follow Aanand sir....he explains ground reality and how to face them🎉🎉

[@yugantsonawale]

Very Inspiring and knowledgable.Thank you.

[@kingqueen-cr4rn]

Anand Sir such great motivator

[@coding.........]

Thank u so much for your upcoming videos

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad it was helpful! :-)

[@coding.........]

How many students get motivated through this video like it.....

[@user-lo6ye5bx3t]

NONE

[@TechnicalSuneja]

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[@CareerTalk]

Thanks for having me Ajay. It was a great experience talking to you. Looking forward to hearing the feedback from the lovely audience 🎉

[@TechnicalSuneja]

​@@CareerTalk Thanks for being here! We both feel the same way. 😊

[@kiete121]

​@@CareerTalkgovt job ki tyaari karlete 2000 year me toh Aaj itne dhakke nhi khaaye also u would have given enough time to your family.

[@AdityaV619]

​@@kiete121Govt job se 1 lakh puri jindagi mein nahin kama payega koi ..😂.. high paying software jobs needs some struggle ..but at the end they make you lakhpati....

[@AdityaV619]

Govt jobs waise bhi wo log karna chahte jain jinhe sirf baiith ke khana hai kuch kaam dhaam nahin karna ... Govt job ka Trend ab khatam ho raha hai ... Thanks to Modiji for Privatisation..

[@Miskvin]

Really helpful and motivational thanks 🎉🎉

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@abhishekdhasmana9341]

Very informative video Ajay.. Keep it up!!

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@adkk1996]

Anand sir is really at its best.....

[@sivas8587]

We got two gems here......really appreciates....wonderful session....feeling so great and luck to be here.....thank God here...

[@JohnR-fc7vr]

Challenges after 40 - say INDIAN IT Industry. This stupid mentality is only in our country. In US, Europe people are working till age 60 in IT industry. The EXPLOITATION of 12-14 hours is not possible after 40 age. Hence, in India people cannot get an IT job after 40 (unless you are the exploitator - manager).

[@RajSekharK]

lot of good questions asked, thanks for this episode.

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@onlythereal333]

Sir I'm working in front of zensar in IT , thank you for podcast where you share introvert ppl I'm fresher... ❣️

[@MDADIL-kq3wq]

please refer me in any company if you have any connection.....I have done MCA 2024 and currently looking for job in banglore but not get any response....please refer me as an entry level*

[@computerscienceandengineer2062]

Like amazing the podcast❤❤ Bhaiya🎉🎉

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you liked it :-)

[@Subham_Lohan]

Honest talk..!

[@SadikSutar]

The Mind blowing brushes session is absolutely fine work by both of you...thanks a lot for this podcast❤

[@manumaunman]

too much of mind blowing on social media 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@shobhitkumar935]

Anand sir is most genuine person whatever comment he has mentioned it's practically truth!

[@user-zf7mz3il7b]

Nice interview, very apt for current generation

[@PMLighthouse]

If one is in Information Technology field, it is a must to keep catching new tech wave to remain relevant to the industry. If one stops learning new technologies then one becomes redundant and irrelevant given the young blood that comes into the IT. This is what has helped me remain afloat even now at 60. I advise younger ones to keep abreast with latest technologies and save as much as possible to quickly build up a corpus. If one at 40 but riding tech wave, growth is natural. This is true even at 60.

[@vishalakasnehashis9747]

Sir for how many years are you in the IT industry? And how do you see the IT industry and the new joiners who are either freshers or preparing for other competitive exams? What should be the correct mindset and how do one see himself in the career path ahead of himself?

[@sahilgupta4340]

Maintain a learning mindset. Maintain a positive attitude towards situations like layoffs. Introverts could certainly be very good managers. LinkedIn and other social media platforms are very important in the long run. Digital presence yields long-term benefits but takes time to build. thank you....

[@keepcalmuvlb5n]

Questions were on point. Keep it up❤

[@vineetkumartiwary2241]

Guidence ❤ 💯 Honest Podcast 👍

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you liked it :-)

[@rohitchitampalle276]

Amazing Bhaiya This is very help Full . thougths said by @Anand Sir 😊🙏

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you liked it :-)

[@sri20141]

Thanks for sharing

[@CrazyGamer-fx3rs]

Thankyou for this video it would be helpful😀

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad it was helpful! :-)

[@nikunjvagadiya9358]

Today prodcast very super very informative ❤

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you liked it :-)

[@MisbhaHasan]

Anand's 'talking is clear and interesting . The hosts English and Hindi both are sub standard. And a constant fake smile is making watching him a very let down.

[@aldofromsf]

It is extremely unlikely for a 35 year old manager to hire a 50 year old software engineer. That's the real reason IT workers have an expiration date. Nothing else matters.

[@programlearning]

Being an Introvert is not an issue. Introverts can take leadership roles because we like meaningful conversations. But we are not that good at unprofessional small talks. I didn't really face in any major issues in communication in my professional life because of introversion.

[@shobheetsaxena7578]

The best part is technical+manager =real manager

[@dhruvd8376]

I have 35 years of IT experience, I have had various positions in two main companies, 1 company lasted 10 years and 2nd company is currently 13 years and going, currently I am 46 and don't intend to leave this company for at least another 10-20 years until I retire. So it's not true that IT jobs are not possible after 40

[@shantanumore5675]

misguiding people, and speaking negative things gains more attention. That's it. Otherwise in personal life and personal careeer he is failure :)

[@joysonmiller544]

Everything seems fine....until something really bad happens...wait until u get fired

[@kumarm2885]

Exactly said it's ture man.

[@anonymous-fo8eb]

You are having 35 years experience in IT out of your 46 years, unbelievable. Is it true. So logical to assume you must have started when at the age of 10.

[@laheart1957]

To say that after 40 life in IT comes to an end is BULLSHIT. Ageism is a reality especially in India where there are NO LAWS against discrimination on the basis of age. It’s prevalent in a small way in a hidden way in the west. But there all is not list. I personally know of people who have non technical roles as business analysts, scrum masters, scaled agile SM, agile coaches, Safe program consultants and Release train engineers WHO ARE THRIVING. Yes there’s continuous education, training and certification to keep up with the market trends, but all is not lost.

[@kalicharankhetwal]

Very insightful :) thanks a lot for shooting this podcast.

[@digrajerahul]

Very informative podcast

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you think so! :-)

[@debadiptasanyal]

That's why it's best to do job till ,40-45 and do perfect investment planning and do do freelancing and business.

[@ShreeRam12783]

Make other source of income. In long term government job best peaceful life

[@allahlesboslu2_9]

​@@WatchEverything1😂😂 unless you've reservation

[@livehappily2022]

Bhai,.. government job kaise milega .....1 post per 10000 log

[@livehappily2022]

​@@allahlesboslu2_9 I think aajkal sabko reservation mil gaya hai......even general.... 😂

[@kiete121]

​@@WatchEverything1 chaat ka thela lagayega aur kya karega bhai 😢😢😢😢😢

[@ShreeRam12783]

@@livehappily2022 you are right.

[@user-Tulbul]

I have had a gap of more than 1 year so at least one year has passed 2nd but I have not received any offer yet from DU so due to lay off I was not getting many calls but now I am getting a few calls too. I am not able to get selected in the interview due to which there is a gap of more than 1 year, so now many recruiters do not short list my profile for the interview, so how will I get the job, what should I do?

[@sravanthikondeti6303]

I understand my strength

[@niladrimohanty6493]

Sir aap jo bol rahe hain we know all these gyans, but how to implement practially you should share and guide.

[@nandu31_]

Very motivating podcasts

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you think so! :-)

[@PMukherji-cu9gv]

It's not about introverts can't be managers,they can be good managers if they are "interested" in managing people (let it be clients or teams) and willing to do justice to that role. As you said, those roles added fuel to your fire ,make you feel "passionate" but The thing is what about people who may have the best communication skills but don't have an inclination or "interest" in managerial or lead roles.. The main problem specially in India is you will be kind of "forced" to pick up those roles after merely 10 years of experience, some people may be fine with team member roles with salary as per it in the long run because their priorities are different and they are not keen in management roles. What do they do?

[@toofani]

I am 35, laid off recently after working in one company for 11 years. I am Salesforce Admin, not able to find a new job cause the new company expect Admin to have Developer skillset aswell. Its nightmare for mature grown up man with family to live without Job. I wish I'd knew about the 'going to market once in a while approach'.

[@idiotsontheroad-ind4681]

Maybe you're not finding a job on the right platform

[@toofani]

@@idiotsontheroad-ind4681 I am trying on LinkedIn. Let me know if you have any idea about other platforms.

[@anonymouscommenta]

how much have you earn in last 11 years

[@jinfin221]

Shaadi nhi karne the na😂

[@toofani]

@@jinfin221 Ye honewala hai pata hota to nahi karte 😒😒

[@bhaveshparmar2263]

Awesome podcast sir it will motivate me

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad to hear that :-)

[@siddharthasaini7436]

Please Make video on DATA ANALYST. I think Peoples are most Focusing in this field

[@dsinghr]

If you are a solid engineer, there will always be demand

[@peterjim6646]

Corporates hate people who say No, but you should also learn the art of when to say Yes and No😉

[@navedrizv]

The best way to plan ahead before aging takes its toll and entropy distrupts you career, gain financial freedom through passive income. Work in creating income streams early in your career. Developer's in their 30's, plz plan for that 40 mid life crisis in advance.

[@rajeshg1904]

Content connected to those who are at this age.

[@vinaynaik7345]

The guy worked for one company for close to 20year and discussed about layoff and no career 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Swastika_Aryan_114]

Bruh😂

[@user-wq2sr2wp4x]

The information is very useful for fresher as well as experienced person...Thanks Ajay & Anand

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@k8s8482]

Hi Ajay , Thanks for this wonderful podcast Currently having 3 years of experience in IT . I learnt so many things today. Thanks once again ❤

[@user-pv1vi1cs2d]

All problems has one root cause "few jobs, more people are available in market to do the job". Solution: no solution as of now. If possible migrate, migrate,.... in many countries you can retire as developer, here we have pyramid structure. There is no much competition as their population is less. Even if the competition is there that is not from natives but from desis. Still people are working in legacy systems as developers...

[@hi_vishy]

Absolutely true. Developers here are second class citizens until they become managers.

[@Krxshna]

Im also from indore ❤

[@rohanzade4972]

Thanks, Ajay for this wonderful podcast. And very very thankful to Anand sir for sharing precious 20 years exp. Myself Rohan and can relate lot of things in this pocast. I have 12 years of exp, working as a tech manager in Capgemini, Talwade Pune. You said good thing about tech+manager role, the company will retain them in a layoff situation. But currently, my role is 10% tech and 90%manager. My thought process is, that replacement is easy for the managerial role but replacement of a techie is a bit difficult. So doesn't matter how much you have exp 15 or 20 years, stick to the technical work and keep your hands dirty in coding. In layoffs only two kind of roles get fired 1. managers who are just managing projects (like managing cost, time,risk , budget , ) 2. folks with poor skills or having less experience 2. Second thing i can relate with introvert. Yes am also introvert but am best at my work whether it is requirement gathering, technical discussion, dealing with non technical clients. 3. Now started with learning cloud technologies and shifting percentage from 10 to 90 % in tech

[@sravanthikondeti6303]

U made my day 😊

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad you enjoyed it! :-)

[@wasifirshad9818]

Quite Insightful!

[@dhruvkaushik2122]

NIce !!

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad it was helpful! :-)

[@Rider-do4ym]

Bro i m a us he recruiter but want to change my field. I am so confused what will be the field i can switch ??

[@user-ii3oh8ce3j]

ipad milega servicenow women coding challlenge se , usme kaise participate karu?

[@HarshKumar-eb9pn]

Hello sir I'm also from Khandwa...so good to see you

[@arjun_prmkmr]

Meaning no disrespect to Anand, I want to say that he's milked this "Career in IT after 40" topic enough. His own channel talks about the same and then there is a lot of generic advice, which might be useful to a few, but their career wouldn't be any further off if they don't listen to him either. If he's serious about spreading knowledge, he should be focusing on non-generic, anecdotal content, instead of saying, "this is how you should talk to your boss", "your career after 40" and stuff.

[@Gauravkumar-jm4ve]

❤❤

[@ishukumar]

Good Podcast 💯

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Thanks for listening :-)

[@JustinSai734]

In the industry like you have to learn everything then you survive 😢

[@nishadamle9658]

Hello sir , Please tells something about Data Scientist field and Courses for it.

[@Nick-eb7up]

==>Important Point:Sir IT Induatry Se Kisi Upwork Proposal Writing Expert Ko Le Ke AO BDE Profile Walon Ko Bhi Motivation Milegi, Sir

[@amolsingh2324]

A very good question skipped without being answered at 08:40 and later the discussion went on some other page

[@pradeepsah1809]

Very informative

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad it was helpful! :-)

[@pradeepsah1809]

Sir keep it up ,and thanks for making such type of blog for us

[@SachinSingh-wp6sk]

In beginning face if you face layoff that’s okay you can easily catch another job but if you have 10 to 15 years experience it definitely tough to get in job again … because of after 12-15 years experience there many different financial responsibilities because people want to purchase house , car, and school fee. This is toughest time teaching to 40’s.

[@zubairvlogs4986]

After three years I accepted the reality that IT person can't enjoy life, he isn't able to spend quality time with family. Other family members just see the high income of developer but they don't know the harsh truth behind the scene. I joined the industry with high income dreams living a luxury life. Now after 3 years I'm an introvert person. I have to sit almost 12 hours on the chair, I've to focus on the problems I've to answer to my boss. This the reality

[@user-zk9ny1yz1n]

Everyone is talking about getting laidoff becuase of techology trends, no one is talking about the fact compay do lay you off if you are not fit. I have around 17 years of experience. I got seriously ill and was out of work (sick leaves) for 4 month, after recovery when i joined back I was removed from the project looking at risk, HR gave me 1 month to find another project, I found one joined that project but after one month of joinging new project put my resignation out of self respect I got 3 offers from other companies, hence point to learn is always love your job but never love your company and go into comfot zone you never know when your company will stop loving you. My skills were my job security.

[@user-md1gp6hn2s]

Hi Anand how many times you have been to market?? Expecting genuine answer here

[@kotharishashank]

Working in outsourcing in not a career. Always homegrown companies or a product based company who makes real products and not just software products.

[@nammorapayana2669]

this CarrerTalk guy simply speaking same , trivial & commonsense thing with different words and in different Podcast. I think he is planning to retire and want to create some alternate income source. After some days he will come up with online training, coaching class etc. I am doing what is comfortable to me & not putting extra effort, still surviving in the industry more than 17 years. Guys don't take stress, just keep enjoying your work, Save and invest wisely.

[@Vishal_falke]

I didn't expected it ❤❤❤❤

[@TechnicalSuneja]

Glad it was helpful! :-)

[@CareerTalk]

Thanks a lot Vishal

[@Vishal_falke]

Sir i had been following both of you for long times and it's always motivating me 🥺❤️❤️❤️

[@kiete121]

​@@CareerTalk 40 saal ki umar ke baad kya karenge sir chaat ka thela lagana padega kya 😢😢😢. mai toh Btech krliya mera Paisa barbaad chala gya bccc ab lagta hn sarkari Naukri ki tayari karni padegi

[@nikeshsingh2081]

​@@kiete121bhi same situation

[@MukeshKumar-vl1nu]

Sir I am 36 now and now i am still unemployed bcoz of Govt exam preparation. Can I start my journey as a Data Analyst in PRIVATE COMPANY. PLZZ GIVE SOME SUGGETION.....

[@avinashjoshi5692]

But if calls will not come what to do

[@Takeiteasy-ht2ov]

I've noticed a trend where people continue coding even after 15 to 20 years of experience. In my team in the US, employees work as leads and developers until retirement.

[@BrutallyHonest-vq3lh]

Do not listen this kind of people at all. I have 25+ years of Experience in IT, and I recently switched to new Job in Bangalore as Senior Consultant. If I have listened this kind of negative personalities prior to my interview, I would have definitely demotivated. Just keep focus on your Technology, and be open and ready to adapt new versions. You always have better opportunities.

[@Bartwal11]

Ek video hiring k upar chaiye current scenario ko dekh kr

[@TechnicalSuneja]

I'll work on creating the same video.It will be out very soon :-)

[@arththakur8247]

love from kanpur

[@harishkurekar379]

👍