Why I LEFT Printful And STOPPED Selling T-Shirts On My Shopify Print On Demand Store

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[@RealJoeRobert]

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[@hellennemontreal]

I cannot hit the bell button to receive notifications because your channel is for kids

[@RealJoeRobert]

Elena lol what?

[@hellennemontreal]

I subscribed to your channel but the bell to get notifications is inactive. KZbin says that "the action is turned off for content made for kids".

[@tulasideviful]

@@RealJoeRobert I was able to subscribe without any problems!

[@marketingday2024]

I don’t have a Shopify Store. I have a WooCommerce store.

[@metriccruiser]

So what you Joe says taken as a whole is right, not considering outliers. I've ran a t-shirt shop since 1998, did all my printing myself. Shop was very profitable but over time living in the unfriendly business state of California printing my own shirts became impossible. My model used employees of which I had three, California laws make it next to impossible and expensive to have employees. After a run-in with the State of California Franchise Board who demanded impossible restrictions on having employees I had to let them all go (I did give them severance). At that time in order to not close a long running business I did turn to Printify. True the margins are thin on printify, building my own t-shirts I was able to buy, print and ship t-shirts for under $8.00 leaving me a lot of headroom for profit. Not so with Printful. So why am I still with Printful? 1. Making money while I sleep: My store receives an order, printful prints and ships the shirt my profit deposited in my bank. 2. And this is important and easier to say than to do, Niche Market. I provide designs for groups with special interests, it's damn near impossible for them to find their shirts anywhere else on the Internet, including Facebook, Etsy, etc. Their is more, much more to my strategy but like I said my Internet only shop has been online since 1998. Other thoughts: I don't advertise. Because the products I sell our niche products my page usually ends up in the top three results in Google, and that is organically. I don't spend any money promoting my store, I rely on folks looking for those niche specialized designs to find me, and it works. I hope any of this is of help, it's just another business strategy that I think works. Don't get caught in the trap of making great general designs, they may be beautiful but you are competing against the world where everyone as great designs, that's a losing proposition. It takes gobs of advertising to get your product in front of people, if you have any degree of success your design will be ripped off by someone with deeper pockets and you'll have a short productive timeline. Joe's seems a smart and great guy but realize to succeed you will have to invest (gamble) on advertising in this most competitive environment the Internet has become! Just my two cents. Good luck.

[@Zockledoof]

What niche designs do you mean and how do they end up that high on google?

[@seannewton1798]

@@Zockledoof The reason they end up high on google is that hardly anyone is selling that type of product with that design

[@surveytestmoney2550]

You *don't need to buy ads* at all if you let the media do all of it *FREE* for you! That's what Oprah Bill Gates & Warren Buffet do everyday! So does the everyday business owner who wants and needs new customers. They do *Human Interest* stories.

[@ordyh_ny]

Good luck to all of you, it's not easy and will not be to sell, most of you will give up, those that stick with it, will succeed and it doesn't matter what you sell. Listen to everyone and trust no one method, pave your own way. Innovation, patience, and understanding that it "cost money to make money" is the only way to succeed in this or any business. No guru or "not a guru"(not hating too much Joe, just saying) will help you win, as it is only you and your fortitude that can create success. There is a reason why Nike doesn't have a how to video. Absorb, meditate, fail, learn, and rinse and repeat! ✌

[@ordyh_ny]

@@SpiritTracker7 Agreed, mindset is the most important, I do mean not giving up on the dream of business ownership, not a specific business model. Shopify or selling platforms, just like, facebook and ad platforms are just the tools available to business owners. But since most have no business understanding they end up in the box of it being the end all be all business and follow a methodology proved by so-and-so that says "Do it this way, and you'll make money", then when the spend or "waste" $300, for them it becomes a "scam". Gurus sell course with a 5% success rate because it is more sustainable then any of the 15 stores they open to accent their KZbin sales pitch, which also generates ad revenue. It's hard to succeed with just pushing junk from China or just throwing a design on a mug and running FB ads, which from most of these KZbin advisors is their shtick, or in most cases their scam. Silver category can still become gold if they just look to step out of the box, making a conscience decision to create instead of mirror. Thank you for engaging with me, not enough people talk through these things, and I wholeheartedly appreciate clear perspectives.🤘

[@jasondeb]

Vim Vitae Media listening to what u two have to say keeps me pushing, by failing, you are learning. That does not mean you give up. I am an up and coming buisness man and entrepreneur at only age 17. I will continue to lead a path of success in the future but I will have to fail many times in order to get to where I want to be. I need people that will help each other out to get to everyone’s goal, success. I am messaging you now because I want to keep getting better. Maybe we can help each other out. I am interested in ur skype group for entrepreneurs. If you dont mind let’s keep in touch. I see bright things in both of our futures.

[@oliverqueen4320]

I recommend cyberdemonspy@gmailcom I was able to see every picture my partner was sending on WhatsApp I also recieves his ext messagesi even Justin to his calls. the guy is a demon he is good

[@Cyqwest]

some die trying I find it funny we don't mention those poor bastards

[@graphicsandwebsitedevelope846]

Printful for designs for print on demand here on www.printfuldesigns.com & www.hrybrand.com #printful #printondemand

[@Life-As-is]

I just started selling shirt, and watching this really make sense, I wish , I could be your student at this, I really wanna get out of poverty, , my goal is to earn at least $800 a month, it should be enough to buy for a decent food, clothes and shelter here in the Philippines. I have a small shop on Etsy, which Im hoping will make sale in the future. God Bless you for sharing this video.

[@zakizakaria7716]

Shop name?

[@Tristan-fh5ui]

I'm trying to raise money for my mom's cancer treatments would you like to donate to my go fund me for it?

[@kieranhooper4227]

Another thing worth baring in mind the audience. I’ve never met one person that has a personalised Bluetooth speaker or a blanket with their own photo on it. The thing with something like t-shirts (not necessarily t-shirts, it items similar to that) is that literally everyone you know probably has 10,20,30 t shirts. The market for products like this is huge if you can design, price and market properly, you can sell almost anything. And as POD we are effectively dropshipping, it doesn’t matter if you make 20 sales or 1,000 sales a month. Sometimes, lots of small margin sales is better than a few big margin sales

[@RealJoeRobert]

If you say so. I’ll keep selling products with 10x the margin though instead of burning my self out to make a thousand bucks on 500 sales

[@kieranhooper4227]

@@RealJoeRobert burning yourself out?? Let’s be honest, it’s not hard graft is it.

[@JustinFosterJustinchi]

I understand your point, but there are a few problems: 1) Printful has lower priced shirts. 2) Printful has other types of apparel besides shirts with better, and more flexible profit margins. 3) Why are you counting shipping prices into your cost? Customers can pay for shipping. 4) Printify is another POD option with a number of print providers, all with varying price ranges and products. 5) Printful, like many POD platforms, offers non-apparel products.

[@ZacharyAghaizu]

Very interesting. What if they are self heat pressed and long sleeve? Does that not make a difference to the return on fb?

[@RealJoeRobert]

What’s the math?

[@ZacharyAghaizu]

@@RealJoeRobert thanks for replying, hmmm it's about 7 pounds per polyester top (£189.66 for 30), going to the heat press place is I think 80 pounds for a few meters(I have made 29 variations and there is another half length). Then to print all 30, it took 2 days of 4 hour bookings which I think added up to 70 pounds. Online, they are selling at 25 pounds each. I have sold a few at live shows. I'm just starting to advertise with Pinterest Ads starting with a budget of 30 pounds to see if any sell. It would be good to get your thoughts. I hope this is clear

[@TeriMoten]

Thanks for sharing such great info. My daughter and I are in the process of starting our first POD business. I've owned multiple businesses previously (mostly service-based) but your explanation of moving towards higher profit products makes perfect sense. Can't wait to dive into our business while continuing to get great advice from you, Joe!

[@RealJoeRobert]

Teri R. Moten, MBA thanks for watching!

[@LinhHuynh-vi8mz]

I love this! he is so right! I totally agree with him. I was going to sell t-shirt, but after this video, I have completely changed my mind. Thank you for showing me the right way of doing business. Joe has saved me a lot of money and time by not making the mistake of selling t-shirt

[@bwalyacheba9809]

the stop selling t shirts video was how i found you and i was like "who is this guy and why is he saying we shouldn't sell t shirts" from then it has been an awesome journey with Joe Robert learned alot and still learning thank you so much may God richly bless you for your honesty cause very few people will be this honest about shopify and POD.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Thanks for the support!

[@AveryTheMoonFairy03]

Thsts how I found joe too :)

[@sportsbluff4501]

he lied

[@RealJoeRobert]

@@sportsbluff4501 how so?

[@jsa247-l3e]

It's not about the t-shirt or whatever you're selling...people buy your stuff coz they like your "DESIGN"...if they like your deign, they'll spend that money.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Right but still only making a few dollars

[@SamuraiWormGaming]

@@RealJoeRobert a few dollars is better than no dollars

[@SunayanSarkar]

@@SamuraiWormGaming well @Joe Robert was talking about "more dollars" not "no dollars"

[@CuratorMichael]

@@RealJoeRobert you duumb + ratio

[@o0laieta0o]

You can sell literally everything with the same design, so why would you delete the tshirts? Doesn't make any sense. Just don't do adds for the tshirts and rely on traffic from the other products or just put it in merch by Amazon so people can organically find all your products.

[@RealJoeRobert]

I knew there would be comments like this. Also, how are you gonna put a t shirt design on car seat covers? Or a blanket? Or a pair of shoes? ;)

[@o0laieta0o]

@@RealJoeRobert you can make everything else black. That obviously depends on the kind of design you're doing and some are more doable than others. And although I agree focusing on tshirts is not the right approach, deleting the tshirts if they cost you nothing is also not a great idea if they don't look terrible.

[@kudrah]

Destiny Unique right, you’re right. Joe is just demotivating others.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Qudra k you obviously missed the entire point of this video!

[@valleygirl670]

@@iamdestinyunique are you using shopify? plus what app printify premium? thank you in advance!

[@rayb9849]

Thanks. I figured this out yesterday after about 4 months of no sales. I started a Teespring store and was using google ads and facebook ads. Thousands of people were seeing my ads and some were going to Teespring, but no one was buying. I could not figure it out why so many people were interested enough to go to my Teespring store but no one was buying. Until I decided to test the purchase process for myself. During the test I found that the t-shirts I was trying to sell for $19.00 actually cost around $29.00 after the taxes, shipping, etc. There is no way to reduce the price anymore without losing money because of advertising cost. The shipping was 2 to 3 weeks or more. I then understood why no one was buying. I would not buy a t-shirt for that price or wait the extended wait period. Thanks for confirming what I was thinking.

[@BudgetTravelGuy]

You nailed it!

[@1murkeybadmayn]

Read my mind. May try selling hoodis though since they have a higher margins.

[@vinnielav3121]

Exactly

[@oliverqueen4320]

I recommend cyberdemonspy@gmailcom I was able to see every picture my partner was sending on WhatsApp I also recieves his ext messagesi even Justin to his calls. the guy is a demon he is good

[@ronu7313]

WTH

[@Thevibrational_healer]

You are smart. I was thinking this and doubted myself and then you totally knocked that doubt away. I was on the right track the whole time thank you sir.

[@RealJoeRobert]

awesome thanks for watching

[@massivemike4749]

hey man, thanks for showing people how to succeed. i personally appreciate the no nonsense no shilling approach you took and i will take your advice to heart.

[@Nmbr1GMfan]

Seems to me with all the POD going on the real opportunity is with a screen printing machine and buying tees in bulk to serve the POD community.

[@anonymoususerhere]

I get my shirts for $8 and after over 1k shirts sold I've yet to get a complaint but I also understand we all will experience things differently. My business has been great and I hope those who also venture into it really understand you need to market, network and dedicated a lot of time.

[@RealJoeRobert]

I don't think I mentioned anything about complaints?

[@icureboredom4282]

He didn’t say you did?

[@brittanydaley895]

Seriously, thank you! I started marketing my favorite toothbrush two years ago as a dental hygienist and have been looking for another stream of income due to this pandemic and not getting back to work yet. Your video gives a lot of info.

[@caz586]

Ir9P

[@sportsbluff4501]

just give up

[@Md-pp8sk]

So did the toothbrush not work

[@brittanydaley895]

@@Md-pp8sk no, they definitely work! 😀I'm a dental hygienist in public health and our clinic was closed until August. That was my main source of income and no unemployment due to my toothbrush sales. Always looking for way to add streams of income though.

[@ricnyc2759]

The profit margin on those t shirts are too slim, almost inexistent.

[@HighVoltageHer]

This does make alot of sense! I appreciate these tips so much, I got into POD a little over a year ago and haven't made very many sales. However I just recently started selling higher margin items like what you mentioned here! Thanks for this video 😊

[@RealJoeRobert]

Nora Taylor-Hardy awesome! Are you in my Facebook group yet?

[@BudgetTravelGuy]

I've always thought the same thing (profit margin too slim) everytime I'd ever seen a video pushing them. Not a bad way for a person to get their "feet wet" in the world of being an entrepreneur, though.

[@oliverqueen4320]

I recommend cyberdemonspy@gmailcom I was able to see every picture my partner was sending on WhatsApp I also recieves his ext messagesi even Justin to his calls. the guy is a demon he is good

[@johnroekoek12345]

My guardian angel is tapping me on the shoulder. Something about trusting.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Huh? Lol 🙃

[@reallauradee]

Thanks Joe for making this video. It's disheartening to hear that for a person like me who want to get her feet wet in starting an online store with t-shirt designs I've had in mind, that it just won't do well. I do appreciate the honesty. I guess this reveals how people shouldn't be afraid to venture out into other products and not just stick to only t-shirts.

[@sportsbluff4501]

its fine to get wet

[@davyrockxx1563]

I can definitely attest to what is being said in this video Printful charges $17-18 it's hard to make a decent profit buying t-shirts for that price.

[@Wondering_Ghoul]

I’ve just started selling shirts and already I’m not loving the margins. Thanks for this!

[@sportsbluff4501]

give up

[@jenmanzanares87]

@@sportsbluff4501 😒

[@BigMundo22]

@@sportsbluff4501 😂

[@jalabi99]

I didn't understand the hate on the original video. You showed the numbers and they support what you said. If they are so gungho about POD t-shirts, then don't just sell them via Printful + Shopify, sell them on multiple platforms or increase their AOV by also selling leggings, canvases, mugs, etc.

[@jasonstallworth]

Thank you for this. What are your thoughts on musicians selling CDs on Shopify? On that note, would you recommend getting t-shirts made from a local print shop and mailing them yourself?

[@RealJoeRobert]

Would these shirts be for the music??

[@jasonstallworth]

@@RealJoeRobert Yes, my shirts are based on my albums and also some heavy metal themes and related art

[@RealJoeRobert]

Jason Stallworth so it’s like a local thing?

[@RealJoeRobert]

Shopify will do the trick

[@jasonstallworth]

Joe Robert I have a Shopify for this. But you’re still responsible for promoting it and FB ads are quite costly when you’re not selling high ticket products

[@justjosie8963]

Do you recommend registering trademark for your design, or just go ahead and get it out there on a store and that is sufficient for copyright protection ?

[@ocelotcat]

I'd just started learning about the POD t-shirt thing for etsy.....it sounded good but I soon figured out I'd have to sell around 1000 t-shirts to really make any profit. Then I'd learned that printify was rather unreliable on shipping times & actual quality. It seemed to me that selling a variety of different POD items would be the best way to go. Then, there's the $$ outlay for buying the apps for designing etc. plus the costs of "memberships" for using some of these design entities..... Basically, nothing is free to use.....lastly, there's the public domain issue & copyright issue etc. It all can seem very overwhelming to the novice. Thank you for validating my initial analysis on this system.

[@nokywo7582]

6:45, this is $17 profit on the legging, not $22 ? (COG+Ad = 22+10 = $32 => 49 - 32 = 17)

[@RealJoeRobert]

NOKYWO yes I noticed after

[@earlreal2271]

@@RealJoeRobert So no mention of correcting yourself?

[@Key_1111]

@@earlreal2271 His points still stands.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Earl Real after I uploaded

[@fransiscaindriarini8826]

Then from the $17 "profit" I guess you still have to account to pay taxes too.

[@beardnlovely]

You are right. I started printful a week ago and i feel the cost is unbelievable. You spend more than you sell and Esty its hard to get in. I prefer mug or hat instead of tee shirts

[@cindyfinlayson4197]

How many mugs or hats have you sold?

[@shaykhchilly8529]

Exactly the info I was looking for thank you and I just sent the request to join the fb group. Thank you again Joe !

[@taraleslie7299]

Thanks so much for this, it makes a lot of sense! I'm about to move from Redbubble to my own Shopify store, and am now very glad that I've put so much time and effort into designing AOP seamless patterns as well as the more traditional t-shirt type designs! I also would not have thought that AOP leggings could be marked up so much, so thanks for that, too!

[@ely519]

Printful is too expensive. There are cheaper options and since people are buying them for the print and message I am hesitant to go with any premium quality shirts, as they are most not likely factoring that into their buying decision. While t shirts and some other items might be too low of margin to make direct profits from paid ads to them, there is nothing wrong with having them as options in the store as one of the items a great print is on. I want to get people into my niche store with showing one product or maybe a few products and designs, and then they can browse the catalog and add multiple products to their order. Even offering discounts on bundles or upsells.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Ely definitely!

[@jasondee9895]

Ely - who are you using for POD if not Printful? Thanks

[@RealJoeRobert]

Jason Dee watch this video I show 4+ apps...

[@jasondee9895]

@@RealJoeRobert - ones that do Tees cheaper than Printful?

[@ely519]

@@jasondee9895 SPOD, WC, Printify

[@chickenmuffin]

It's true... I have to charge $29 per shirt to account for the fact that I offer some coupons for 10% off. But the margins are insanely thin, and it's risky. Due to a printing error one time I had to re-print like 40 shirts at my cost and lost a lot of $$.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Yep!

[@chickenmuffin]

@@ronnader2458 Custom Cat is GARBAGE never use them. They screwed up and I had to pay by switching to a different company. The quality was just shit and nothing could be done about it. Not sure why it suddenly went downhill, but the shirts suddenly became total shit.

[@angelacharles1894]

This is a good informative video on a strategy that wasn’t working and strategies that are, sometimes info can go right past us if we don’t pay attention to written words and spoken words in the videos. Great job Joe! I’m a new subscriber.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Angela Charles make sure to check out the Facebook group! Link in description, thanks for watching!

[@willhaimerl]

Couldn't agree more. T-shirts are not a good thing to sell, the margins are tiny and returns/exchanges are insane. There's way better ways to do print on demand with way better products. :)

[@11valdano]

Like what?

[@slimbee8026]

Definitely needed to stumble upon this video. I appreciate it xoxo

[@domlipski5226]

I agree with this in the most part but if you're building a solid brand and charge under 30 USD for a premium t-shirt you're underpricing your product. It's the get quick rich with fiver/joke shirt/meme shirt people that get disappointing when they make $3 a pop. Print on demand is great for me (Australian) who can build a solid brand and market it to the United States and Europe (1 Billion people vs 25 Million).

[@adrianadios5041]

I use Printful and charge for shipping, I get an average £7 profit margin on all products. I use Email marketing, fb group, pinterest, fb ads & etsy. Works for me.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Adrian Adios what’s monthly revenue

[@adrianadios5041]

@@RealJoeRobert about 6k so not huge but works.

[@jamezmonroe]

@@adrianadios5041 Not bad at all. Some people work their asses off doing regular jobs in order to earn the half of this amount even less.

[@adrianadios5041]

@@jamezmonroe thats revenue, profit is around 1.2k

[@notalentstudios1106]

@@adrianadios5041 6k? I was working a shifty restaurant and couldn't make 6k in a month.

[@SweetValleyHigh1994]

Hi Joe firstly I enjoyed your video, you make good points with facts and figures to prove your point, and I usually click away from most POD videos in the first 5mins but your video had me glued and it didn't seem like 13mins had past so well done for keeping me watching. So you left Printful But you didn't mention all the other products they sell Printful, they have a total of 220 including leggings, hoodies, accessories and many more products but you only mentioned the t-shirts, why ? And I've subscribed because you're honest and explain clearly with stats and examples. And don't worry about the haters, this video has done very well with most ppl giving you a thumbs, over 2k compared to only 61 thumbs down.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Most of the products I called out from the other pod apps in this video aren’t sold by Printful, and if they are they’re way more expensive. Thank you for watching!!!

[@SweetValleyHigh1994]

@@RealJoeRobert Thanks Joe for your reply.

[@oliverqueen4320]

I recommend cyberdemonspy@gmailcom I was able to see every picture my partner was sending on WhatsApp I also recieves his ext messagesi even Justin to his calls. the guy is a demon he is good

[@gridirongolf2928]

Thanks for the seemingly heartfelt info. I appreciate when someone with a measure of success tries to help,e avoid some pitfalls he made. Just FYI, I think you got the profit margin wrong on the leggings. The numbers don’t add up. Other than that, this video feels rockstar.

[@RealJoeRobert]

I realized the math mistake after uploading :(

[@MightyCong]

Dude, I fucking love you bro no homo. Everything you said made sense, you got me rethinking about how to redo my shopify store now.

[@JinanMC]

Thanks for your honest video, I am just starting and will take your comments to heart. I have a question: is there a scenario where it makes sense to sell a mix of t-shirts and more expensive items like hoodies in ones store, I.e. to diversify? Rather than to totally axe t-shirts altogether? Also, what if one focused on paid Instagram shout-outs and other marketing strategies rather than FB ads? Quite a few other POD videos on YT suggest to do that

[@RealJoeRobert]

Jinan Coulter yes - that’s what I said on this video that it can work with other marketing strategies but this video was to hopefully save people the time (and money) and avoid using fb ads for t shirt sales

[@lloydstrait1532]

Hi Joe, I was just wondering what app you used that had the personalization available I could not hear you very well on the video. The video I am watching is why I left print full and stopped sewing teachers on my shop of my print on demand store. So if you could respond to this and let me I was just wondering what app you used that had the personalization available I could not hear you very well on the video. Thank you for your time have a good day.

[@alexandrefrancisco6402]

LOGICALLY THINKING, ALL THAT HE SAID IS RIGHT BUT LET"S MOVE ON AND CREATE NEW STRATEGIES

[@cookiee5272]

Your absolutely right about the tee shirts, that's why I see an increase in prices for the mugs, sweatshirts,tee shirts. That's why people are using other streams of income. If you do the math it makes a lot of sense to find other high ticket products to sell, that's just common sense.

[@ssw4m]

Okay okay, I'll try to sell some leggings too!

[@xSONCASUAL]

I'm not interested in selling shirts through Printful, but I am considering selling small items such as coffee mugs and possibly some puzzles. Do you think this is a good option for someone using their site?

[@RealJoeRobert]

Same issue would be present about margins imho

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I’m personally a bigger fan of selling hoodies than tshirt but I don’t think Printful is the place for me

[@LL-ex1gp]

People don’t seem to talk about doing wholesale much when considering print on demand. But if you plan to wholesale, you’ll also have to consider pricing much higher than this in order to account for what they take. If you don’t, you’ll also make even less or nothing on your shirt.

[@RealJoeRobert]

The advantage of pod is its on demand, no need to buy large quantities, just run ads, and automate it

[@LL-ex1gp]

Joe Robert Yes, I agree. Definitely a benefit of POD. It’s the pricing I was talking about as I’m often approached by shops who want to wholesale my products. Which means they expect to get a discount because they are buying in large quantities. So it can make it difficult to use POD for some products.

[@jfosterdesigns]

Yeah, I use Printful for hats only. Printify's offering of multiple print providers gives competition in pricing.

[@oliverqueen4320]

I recommend cyberdemonspy@gmailcom I was able to see every picture my partner was sending on WhatsApp I also recieves his ext messagesi even Justin to his calls. the guy is a demon he is good

[@ronu7313]

Go away

[@brettd.cotten9987]

Thanks for this video.... I was about to start a tee shirt business this week... Guess I'm not now but look forward to what you have to teach in your course. Much appreciated.... and thanks for sharing

[@RealJoeRobert]

Awesome! Make sure to check out our Facebook group too - link in description!

[@Michael_Kove]

@Joe question: Can I still have T-shirts in my store but promote other products? T-Shirts could be an upsell or cross sell? Some of my designs wouldn't make sense on other products but T-shirts. Thank you!

[@junmadayag6240]

Up

[@jonathanaraujo6033]

Some really good info here! As someone who is in the process of setting up their own shop as a first time endeavor, this was a good reminder that I was on the right track with the choices I was making.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Jonathan Araujo thanks for watching

[@duaneborgaes7449]

I'm so new to this, I know just what you mean when you say you were excited to put your designs on t shirts and sell'em... However despite my enthusiasm, I like practicing non-objective observation, when listening to people who have experience. (No mater "what side of the fence they're on".) So with that, I'd like to say... I'm glad you did not just simply, "piss on my paraid"😎 Thax! Truly. I see your insight.👍

[@RealJoeRobert]

Duane Borgaes check out the POD Ninjas Facebook group!

[@KevinNordstrom]

Ive been told to not do ads or organic traffic through the website because it's over saturated. I was told you need to build an online presence. An online fanbase first. Be it Instagram youtube or Facebook once you have a solid audience you can sell your product to them.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Honestly that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense

[@KevinNordstrom]

@@RealJoeRobert could you elaborate

[@bringingluxury5548]

printful has the most reasonable shipping rates out there

[@syahadore1247]

It's a good start.. no one is gonna be successful overnight. I just really get my foot out there for a low cost. Good way to start.

[@Ricebubbbles]

sites that sell a combination of print on demand and stock you physically hold: does that work? Is it sustainable in long run?

[@-semola--activa-6678]

It's time intensive and if you need to rent out space can be pricey. But it may be something you consider if you believe it creates a better offer. If you think you can add more value by delivering the products faster (delivering in your local area from your car), including your own marketing material/ promotions, creating relationships with customers - there could be an advantage there.

[@estherokoro1045]

i really liked the info you have provided. Saved me alot of money that i intially dont have.

[@Iam2realC]

Thank you for sharing this information, because there so much ads about starting a T-shirt business print on demand and I’m very Suspicious but I am interested so I will definitely follow your advice

[@RealJoeRobert]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BsBackyardfarm]

[@beamc3246]

Do you suggest printify over printful?

[@Cristina.Antoniuc]

This video is a literally A GEM 💎 I can’t believe I stumbled across this 💛 thank you for this 🙏

[@stevendorn1736]

I was kind of thinking that using printful and Shopify back in the days .... Thanks for the insight because it all makes sense now... your knowledge is appreciated my brother

[@Buzza235]

So what are you selling and where now?

[@selenegama2992]

Love your style, straight forward: boom! Thanks!

[@OFFICIALBEATSLANGERZ]

What about sell a package?

[@RealJoeRobert]

BEATSLANGERZ ?

[@shaima2635]

Thank you so much! You saved me lots of time and money💙

[@RealJoeRobert]

Glad I could help!

[@cambo751]

Dude, you are zero bullshit ...i love it!!

[@RealJoeRobert]

haha thanks for watching

[@fightthegoodfight52]

Drop Printful: Yes! Their quality is sucking and the delays are unacceptable! Stop selling tees, no! I partner with a local vendor to produce my tees at a lower cost! Also, I have much more customization and handle on quality! Hmmm...you must be offering free shipping, because if your customer is paying a shipping fee of say, $3.95, then you should have higher margins! But hey, to each his own! Much continued success to you!

[@jean-marcbeausoleil205]

local produce business name?

[@katelee8311]

Can you tell me name of the local vendor? I want to launch my own store/brand.

[@fightthegoodfight52]

Jean-Marc Beausoleil I live in California, so I would recommend that you do some research to see what vendors are available in your local area and reach out to them to see if they can meet your needs. Of course you would want to order samples, discuss prices, estimated volume, etc., etc. I wish you much success!

[@fightthegoodfight52]

Yeong Lee I live in California, so I would recommend that you do some research to see what vendors are available in your local area and reach out to them to see if they can meet your needs. Of course you would want to order samples, discuss prices, estimated volume, etc., etc. I wish you much success!

[@katelee8311]

FIGHT the good FIGHT! Thank you so much. Do you mind if I can visit your store’s website??

[@2worlds2mundos23]

I was about to start with tshirts. Thanks for being an eyes opener. I appreciate your info.. I maybe can send you later pictures of my success, because of your advise. Thanks a lot!

[@veeanon2238]

Don’t listen to dude. It’s about the design of the shirt. Personally had a shirt do very well. $5k revenue with 2k profit. Just have to know what to create. Sold my shirts for $30. Now, lowered my cost of goods to up the profit margins.

[@RealJoeRobert]

zzzzzzz

[@mama--rua]

Dont listen check out Wholesale Ted ir anyone else with a better attitude

[@MissPastryCakes]

What site are you using to sale the shirts. Which one do you find the best?

[@RealJoeRobert]

I don’t think you understand the point of the video, I’m saying I stopped selling shirts, and then I showed a whole bunch of products you should sell instead

[@MissPastryCakes]

@@RealJoeRobert no I understand I was asking what site were you using.... when you showed your screen?

[@teodorastankovska5862]

Great video!! I have a question, the only thing to be connected for paying and to be paid is Paypal or I must have 2Checkout or Stripe or everything?

[@slightlyunfiltered]

Thank you for this video. I was trying to figure out what else I could sell on-demand, besides t-shirts. I'm an affiliate for a leggings company and already have an audience. Adding leggings to my store makes total sense.

[@cc-cc1dc]

Thank you for your brain!! You’re so smart!

[@sotharasieng2765]

I see your point about low margins for a t-shirt. But, is it not too much selling a pair of legging at 50$?

[@how2kidz609]

I never comment but THANK YOU for this video. It makes so much sense and a great way to up your profit. Especially since designing products takes so much time!

[@RealJoeRobert]

You are so welcome!

[@indymudshow]

I dont know a single person who would spend 50 bucks on leggings

[@RealJoeRobert]

Shinnox thanks for watching

[@SandraJCTaylor]

If the leggings are high-quality material why not. I have def purchased leggings for way more than $50. But then again my friends and I are super boujee.

[@sycofya1677]

@@SandraJCTaylor lol right on

[@svresh]

Guess Gymshark are out of business then

[@valeriacarrera3629]

That's why if you sell shirts you need to make them yourself. That Bella canvas shirt is like $3 or less to buy blank.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Valeria Carrera if you say so

[@ishmaellewis2332]

Joe!!! dude you have saved my dream for real. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I will for sure follow you and check out ALL your information.

[@sportsbluff4501]

so cringe

[@iamvaikul]

Started with one video and now watched more then 5+ videos, joined Facebook group, sign-up free training. I felt Same way he is explained. T-shirts have no margins to be profitable. Thanks for Amazing knowledge.

[@RealJoeRobert]

thanks for watching

[@cindyfinlayson4197]

He is not getting a good return on his Facebook ads. There is some knowledge for you.

[@chriskay4337]

6:34' Check your leggings maths - profit $17

[@RealJoeRobert]

Chris Kay yea I mentioned this in a few other comments here already

[@camlamb12]

They have a $7.95 shirt option. It's a large enough margin if you use their first order coupon code. The shirt is decent quality, but it only comes in shades of white/black/grey so not super amazing.

[@RealJoeRobert]

It’s not enough margin. Not my opinion, it’s the math. $7.95 for the shirt, plus your $10 on average for ads brings you to $17.95 What about shipping? If you make them pay you’ll be making $3 - if you watch the whole video I show you products you can sell to the same niches with same design concepts as shirts but make 10x as much.

[@jackandpen29]

Sir, I like the video, its so interesting. I want to learn about POD pls teach me. I really need to earn money for living.

[@believeinjesus2677]

You can sell ebooks and paintings

[@believeinjesus2677]

Some abstract artwork costs thousands of dollars

[@carlos_mann]

I currently work in a custom design clothing store, but I am trying to branch off and get my own store going... With the free guide will it explain how to purchase the merchandise, and how much would you recommend me having to spend on start up (not including the fb ads, or advertisements in general)

[@marcusv6134]

You have beautiful eyes.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Lol thanks 👁 👅 👁

[@earlmoseley3970]

From the example you gave, not sure the math is right. Shirt: $25(selling cost) - $10(cost of shirt) - $10(cost of ad)= $5(profit) This makes sense. Leggings: $49(selling cost) - $22(cost of leggings) - $10(cost of ad)= $17 NOT $22. Also is $49 a good average for selling that product or is that an example?

[@Zii73]

Don't stop selling tshirts but stop using printful, you can find other pod suppliers that have the same printing quality and very low tshirt prices

[@RealJoeRobert]

Even if you find one for only $10 including shipping how much $$ do you expect to make if using fb ads?

[@Zii73]

@@RealJoeRobert I'm selling on Etsy and Amazon, my profit is $8, I'm a beginner and making $5000 a month

[@lights369]

TWA what pod suppliers do you suggest?

[@RealJoeRobert]

TWA I knew there would be comments like this 😅

[@Zii73]

@@RealJoeRobert Lol I can send you a video showing you my amazon and Etsy account don't worry I'm not a guru 🤣

[@AndyPurdy2012]

Joe, in Shopify can you set a rule that shipping is free if you purchase a certain minimum dollar amount? It must be possible but I cannot find it.

[@chefboyre9647]

You speak in circles my g lol but thanks for the info

[@MrSchobilo]

Great Content. I am very happy That I found your Video on KZbin and got those important Information.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Thanks for watching

[@voodazz]

What is the actual URL(s) of the stores you are currently running?

[@geaux-hard]

This information is pure gold. Thanks bro.

[@gunillajonsson1459]

You dont get a hate comment from me, instead you get applause and cheers👏👏👏🤹‍♀️🤹‍♀️ for being clear, not jazzed and for presenting more facts than dreams. Thank you! Your ideas and my own synk. Im starting a store soon and you confirm my conclusions after ... I bet, hundreds of videos Ive seen in my research and the prizes and lack of quality on some of the big print on demand stores. I have some questions though -you probably answered it somewhere I havent seen. For how long do you run an ad? 3 Days, a week? Just 10 dollars or more?

[@christinelewis8397]

I really like your model a lot more than most of the other POD KZbinrs. Mind blown 🤯

[@RealJoeRobert]

Wow, thanks!

[@mya262626]

Dude thank you man, totally makes sense. Data don’t lie, you used real statistic that makes sense.

[@msgreen512]

I wish l would have found your video sooner Joe. I spent $495.00 on a POD Tshirt course back in May 2021. Its been minimally helpful and l still haven't launched my store. I'm in need of higher profit margin product, l believe you are correct Tshirts are saturated.

[@RealJoeRobert]

Check the link in the description for my FREE course to open your store, thanks for watching!

[@DJPoiz1990]

I'm about to join the Facebook Group

[@rrdcreates]

Great advice - one of the biggest practice in corporate apparel business is to find what’s called a cash cow...aka something that makes a bunch of money in profit...to offset the lower margin products. It’s just basic business sense, working on my MBA right now, this is all sound and logical business advice. Great video!

[@RealJoeRobert]

Thanks for watching!

[@youcefyahia2008]

shopify is for high quality and personalized design, there are some designs you can't make with redbubble, etsy, teespring or any pod marketplace

[@RealJoeRobert]

youcef yahia sure if you say so 🙂