Really Worth $80,000? (25,000 Mile Review with Toyota Land Cruiser 200 Series)

[@justinmcroberts4633]

215k on my 13. No issues. Just got back from seeing family 600 miles away. I love it. I can’t imagine buying any other vehicle besides a GX460. I’ll keep the 200 until it dies.

[@ssing7113]

570 LX ?

[@viperjustin8186]

@@ssing7113 Land Cruiser

[@AlexAlex-gs1xh]

No just upgrade every 5yrs.

[@justinmcroberts4633]

That’s why you’re poor.

[@AlexAlex-gs1xh]

@justinmcroberts4633 no I am not who says I always pay cash and I am not poor because I don't buy such expensive cars the most expensive car I have bought is 30k dollars.

[@jeffreyerickson6766]

Keep it forever Ben. Much better than the new gen.

[@markgroves5592]

2018 200 series just rolled 100K, still drives like new. On a trip my wife will ask why I'm not listening to a podcast or something, but most of the time I just enjoy the drive and being connected to the machine. If you consider it as a lifetime purchase it's not as expensive as people think. We will sometimes take her 21 GX460 and while it's a nice drive, I always miss my LC.

[@austinaubinoe]

My 2009 LX just hit 100k. Everything works drives great. My daughter will be driving this to school in 15 years.

[@christofonobrown3659]

The 200 and the 100 series are great vehicles. I just still cannot get over how close to original MSRP the 20 and 21 LC200’s are trading for, just zero depreciation years later.

[@BenHardyCars]

Sounds like a great way to not lose as much money on a car

[@christofonobrown3659]

@ agreed, turns out the people who bought them brand new (during that crazy market) were making brilliant purchases. Just amazing. Watch videos from 2021 reviewing these and what a terrible purchase they were at the time. Nobody could have known, lol.

[@jediaeljean93]

It'd be awesome if you had Toyota land cruiser Prado 150 in the USA it's so reliable ​@@BenHardyCars

[@ssing7113]

Right. And they were discounting them. They discounted every LC200 as they sat in lots every single year

[@stephengoodin9584]

And appreciation to come

[@andy84wilson]

My 17 LC just crossed 105k and its been great so far. Just routine/preventative maintenance. Not many vehicles out there that can do and last what this one can. Ill be keeping it for a long long time. Good luck!

[@andrewtamkin2511]

My friend has a 21 heritage with the third row and he loves it. There was only 2 in the whole USA when we was looking to buy. one in washington and one here in Texas at Cedar park Toyota.

[@stonepa]

I’ve been overlanding my 2015 200 since i got it. 10 round trips from Seattle to Mexico, 10 to Alaska, 1 to Cree territory in Quebec, and 1 to Panama. Totally stock except for a drawer system and K02s. Zero mods needed. Zero rattles, rock solid center console. Problems with the 16+?

[@Jay-me7gw]

The 200 LC pricing is stupid when you can get the LX for ~20% less. And I dont see AHC as a bad thing. I know its been universally hated, I think because no one actually understands how it works, but I actually prefer it over a static suspension since I use my truck for a whole variety of purposes, including towing a 5500 lb trailer. The AHC is so adaptable and versatile and thats not something you can get from a static suspension.

[@BenHardyCars]

It’s great until it breaks

[@asplmn]

@@BenHardyCars Agreed, on the used market you can get more for less with the LX. From my research, the AHC very rarely ever have issues so long as you maintain it. Considering that Toyota/Lexus spent millions and millions on designing this suspension. The money "saved" on feeling like you'd need to go aftermarket can just be instead applied to a new OEM suspension when it does finally break. lol :P

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@BenHardyCars Case in point. AHC doesnt break often. And if its does its probably because it wasnt maintained. No one would question your brakes failing if you never changed the brake fluid, or if your transmission failed because you never changed your transmission fluid, or if your 5.7L head gasket failed because you never changed the coolant. . .

[@Mercedes157]

I find that only people that are non mechanical, IE first owners, or people that cant actually afford maintenance are the people that dont like systems like AHC, Airmatic, or ABC. The systems are extremely easy to work on and parts are inexpensive. Sure, a dealer taking advantage of a uneducated owner could make it seem like a bad tech, but to those of us that perfectly maintain the systems, they are as good as new, decades later. AHC is amazing

[@Den-pu6re]

dude it took about 3 seconds to lower the rear tailgate....brutal!!, Cmon man be grateful its electric

[@KenMcCune-wb3jp]

Your Toyota lands cruiser still looks good Ben

[@saranrathakrish8468]

The 200 series is built like a tank

[@Birdhouselady]

I really like the look of this Land Cruiser

[@JohnnyUtah86]

The only thing about the 8 speed is there is a jolt when it downshifts from 3rd maybe 2nd when going 10mph or under to a stop sometimes.

[@hodad200]

The ONLY thing I hate about my 200 is the touchscreen fan controls!

[@CACressida]

In my opinion, the 100 series feels more nimble than a 200 series. I liked the 200 series but I prefer the build quality of the 100 series and the 100 series drives like a XL 3rd gen 4Runner.

[@brianh5393]

@BenHardyCars Since 2016 the Base US spec Land Cruiser has had semi-aniline leather seats and the Heritage Edition has had pigmented full-grain leather. The wear pattern on your HE is characteristic of a robust full-grain leather. In comparison the semi-aniline is softer and shows less wear but may not hold up as well in the long-term. I haven't seen a spec for the steering wheel or door leather. Are you certain it's softex?

[@markbradl8651]

I love the softex in my 2016 4Runner. Looks brand new at 70k miles. Steering wheel is leather. No wear on it either

[@NS-wh1cx]

Not sure who's doing your aux tank, but you should discuss with Cruiser Outfitters... I was going to do one on my 19 and they stopped doing them because there were quite a few recurring issues with them last I checked.

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

I am constantly amazed by published MPG numbers from the 5.7L LC200. My EU-spec 4.5L TTV8 Diesel LC200 (6-speed) gets exact same numbers despite it being almost impossible :- ). 16 MPG? In Winter? No city driving, no highway flooring it? What wizardry is that? It almost makes me want to get a second one in this spec, maybe when I'll road-trip US I'll bring one back home. As someone who tested extensively KDSS against AHC, it's not the same in LC200, the AHC is way more superb. Although in 300, the E-KDSS in GR-Sport is the one to get.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Yeah they do pretty well. I just did a 600 mile road trip, most of which was at 80 mph(posted speed limit here in utah) and I managed nearly 17mpg on 315/70R17 Goodyear Territory MT's.

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

Crazy. Best I currently get in Winter here, on 32.5" Blizzaks is about 18 mpg (13 l/100km) while doing exactly that same speed. If that was on 35" mud-terrains like you, I don't want to imagine :- ). But I don't get it.. I wonder if it's the freezing temperatures or the winter additives in diesel fuel that add-up. I mean, my technical card lists 24 mpg as the combined mileage for the 1VD, I've no idea how they achieve that.

[@ragchaasurengalindev]

Thanks Ben. Since you have both LC and Sequoia from the same generation, can you do a nice comparison video including your wife’s comments. I have a 2014 Sequoia Platinum and a 21 LX570. But they are in different countries so cannot compare them directly in terms of driving experience. But in terms of the feeling and touch, LX feels much more solid.

[@dominicgreen115]

I have a 2013 with 209K, tight as a drum, zero real issues. Only thing I hate is that eco light going on and off all the time. lol

[@dominicscalise]

Heads up that you can turn that off in the settings! - Dominic who also drives a 2013

[@jamesdavidsmith4033]

Your Sequoia is the more practical vehicle for long-distance camping trips.

[@davidchenette1091]

That's the best land Cruiser ever built your very lucky to have it good video 🎉🎉

[@Offshore1977]

The way the front seat has wrinkles makes me think it’s true leather.

[@DavidMacGillivray-kc6go]

These videos are bulletproof

[@joshuarivera3617]

I own a 2018 with 27k miles on it. I really miss my apple car play. I found out that they make an apple car play unit that piggybacks off stock setup so imma def be installing that

[@Jay-me7gw]

I got the Beatsonic unit for my 2018 LX and its pretty great.

[@joshuarivera3617]

@ that’s the one I heard about. Thanks for confirming it’s a good unit

[@facelessman5362]

do you think this is 25-30k better than getting a 22 GX 460?

[@fire_breathing_hamster]

I know you review cars but you look a therapist. I bet you are a great listener.

[@ej2863]

I went with the GX460 over the 200 series Land Cruiser since Lexus has updated cameras and sensors.

[@Thefury06484]

I just got a 1 owner 2017 with 40k miles for $59k. I’m gonna try to drive this car till it dies.

[@pepitopepito6598]

hows the rust situation in underbody, do u rust-proof the LC, what u use?

[@BenHardyCars]

No rust

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@BenHardyCarsI brought my 2021 200 series new. I removed the pans and coated everything with CRC corrosion inhibitor. 4 years later, 90,000 miles, off roading and taking it on the beach. Not one spec of rust even on the frame welds.

[@LeeLeuciuc-b1r]

I would opt for the TRD Pro sequoia in the same year. Cheaper and bigger.

[@ssing7113]

The 16’-17’ had tranny issues. Needs the v2 revision update that was standard on 18+’

[@martysworld6052]

I'm keeping my 21 200 series until the wheels fall off. I'm at 31k miles on it.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

Same at 90,000. ZERO problems.

[@martysworld6052]

That's pretty awesome. Is your Cruiser all stock?

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@martysworld6052 Yes.

[@juliusv2073]

still havent sold 250?

[@dustinortegon]

How do you compare it to the Grenadier in the back? I am thinking of switching from a 24 Gren to a 200 Series HE.

[@BenHardyCars]

It has slightly more space

[@kyletatum3495]

What color is this wrap Ben is it like a satin black or grey I REALLY LIKE IT and I’m in the market for one on mine.. that is absolute fire…

[@BenHardyCars]

Just satin over stock black

[@bprint555]

“You don’t need to spend a million on suspension” proceeds to buy an $80k rig

[@mervinblack1]

You also mentioned in another one your reviews on LC.. It's costly to own...Sun roofs are prone to leaking and expensive to repair..I once owned a LC.. x2 GX460's Both great SUV's..GX is was a bit less for up keeping..And more affordable than a LC I now Own 3rd Gen 2024 Tundra TRD.

[@BenHardyCars]

Only downside of the GX is that it’s not as well built

[@mervinblack1]

@@BenHardyCars And a bit under power..

[@ArkLeaf73]

Always wanted one and still on the lookout but can't wrap my head around some of the prices that are out there. Toyota completely botched then new powertrains offered making these NA V8's worth a lot more... Still on the hunt...ready to go when I find one.

[@BenHardyCars]

Can’t predict the future, but I doubt prices will come down

[@Jay-me7gw]

LX570's are a good 20% less I would say. When I bought my 2018 a year ago, the LX's with 50k miles were low to mid 50's while the LC's were mid 60's it seemed like.

[@coddiwomplecolster7329]

Is that you, Jesus? Oh, Jesus Christ, it's actually Ben masquerading as Randy Savage or cousin it, maybe even their love child. Dude, for the love of God, get a trim before the Diesel Bro's take legal action over trademark infringement.

[@user-bdpdfom]

i thought your lc was green

[@BenHardyCars]

Took the wrap off and put PPF on it

[@TheRealEarlLeeRiser]

Wasn’t this green? I like it. Keep it, sell the newer one for sure.

[@BenHardyCars]

Took the wrap off

[@AlexAlex-gs1xh]

Automatic hatch is way better than manual installing manual will be a huge mistake and the hatch will be heavy thatswhy it is Automatic

[@charlesserrano3966]

Yes, I’m interested in the larger fuel tank. Can you do an larger fuel tank on your wife’s sequoia?

[@BenHardyCars]

We are going to try one on the Land Cruiser first

[@charlesserrano3966]

@ looking forward to it

[@jabbadahuttful]

Ben I say this sincerely without malice or hatred.. please get a haircut and beard trim. You’d look so much better and more professional. ❤😊

[@Mr.Miles24]

I been thinking the same for like a year but been trying not to comment it.

[@jabbadahuttful]

@ me too! I know it’s truly not my business but appearance does count no matter what we wish otherwise

[@jeffkashat4625]

At least trim down and groom the beard.

[@w2xyz]

The man is being his authentic self running a channel he enjoys. I don’t think his goal is to appeal to gay strangers online. If you want a pretty man go to another channel

[@nemomilo333]

@@w2xyz Ok thanks man

[@harshy_9975]

Gx460 had the best kdss

[@Jay-me7gw]

The GX460 KDSS doesnt give the same amount of travel as the Land Cruiser. it will start to bind up with extended travel coilovers.

[@Emil-Thefrizzywanderer]

I love this land cruiser and the 70 series. The new gen Land Cruiser looks like a joke.

[@rahimi4762]

Costs more than a luxury brand. Damn shame. Mainstream competing with luxury. Smh

[@Anomize23]

Wait until you see how much the NEW little four-cylinder Land Cruiser is costing.

[@CincoSip]

I’m surprised you’re saying good things about your 200 series. You’ve owned two, a 2021 that you said had rust and airbag issues “Made more sense to get rid of”, and a Heritage that also had air bag issues with an estimated $8,000 estimated repair bill. You posted a video entitled “Toyota Ain’t What It Used to Be” kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZvUiGR-hteSbNU . This was just 5 months ago,

[@BenHardyCars]

I talked about this in the video

[@Hookemdavid]

“Affordable over-land build” 😂

[@BenHardyCars]

You can do the build on any off-roader, doesn’t have to be a LC

[@garymeadows1771]

Worth every penny

[@philipparana9225]

Looks very 2008 in there

[@Slythey]

It's not worth $80k to anyone objective.

[@rahimi4762]

Fake wood for 80k?

[@CACressida]

More like Wood in a car?

[@joshuarivera3617]

Why would they use real wood lol.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@rahimi4762 But seriously. Get underneath of a 200 series. Remove the belly pans and you will see where the money was spent.

[@user-yl9vs9eh1w]

The fake (and also ugly) veneer is the only thing that makes me mildly unhappy on my 2012 LC200 :- ). I mean Toyota interiors are what they are design-wise, you know what you get when you buy one. Otherwise, I just smile all-day whether outside looking at it or driving it. I also have far newer 2019 LC150 in highest trim but it's not the same.. I kind of wish I had two LC200 instead. Neither LC300 or LC250 fit the bill as good either.

[@KINGWD0110]

Yes, u can go overlanding without spending $50bn 😏

[@Kenneth_R]

Short answer. No. Overated.

[@w2xyz]

Especially when you consider a fully loaded 2022 gx460 with apple car play, same build quality and better interior for like 50k

[@namename1]

Overpriced

[@BenHardyCars]

GX isn’t built as well

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@w2xyz Its not even close. I owned a GX460 for 4 years and then bought a LX almost a year ago. The LX feels like an absolute tank in comparison. And the 5.7L is considerably stronger than the 4.6L. I didnt even really like driving the GX because the motor and transmission were so anemic feeling. If you dont care, that's great, get the cheaper GX. But they are not on the same playing field. Also, an LX is considerably cheaper than a LC if you are worried about having a nicer interior for not much more than the GX.

[@ParthivMohanK.M]

Better than tahoe

[@Cheeto_Duss]

It’s the perfect vhicle for leading your cult. 💁🏻‍♂️

[@BenHardyCars]

Lol

[@عبدالرحمن-ض2ظ3ظ]

للبيع

[@grisa12345]

There’s at least a little irony with people buying an $80,000 truck that gets horrible mileage because they are afraid of paying for repairs.

[@brianh5393]

I don't think the fear of repair costs is relevant for a $80k rig. In my opinion, repairs can be very inconvenient if not dangerous depending on when or where your vehicle breaks down. Sacrificing a few MPG's for reliability is fine with me. For anyone that fears repairs consider a 2 year lease on something like a Honda Pilot.

[@grisa12345]

@@brianh5393 Yeah, no. I've wheeled all over the country, including the most remote places. If you're prepared and have the right supplies and a sat phone, there's no real danger and that's such an outside case for buying a 200, considering 99.9% of them are mall crawlers. My point about the irony stands. If you are buying a 200 to deal with fewer repairs, it's worth a chuckle to observe that irony. The inconvenience of being best friends with your local gas station attendant is more of an inconvenience than a repair at 100k miles on a non 200...

[@brianh5393]

Wow! I've also wheeled all over the country, and wheeled in other countries, and have 20+ years of professional driving experience. But you will always be smarter and more amazing than me!

[@grisa12345]

Agreed.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@brianh5393 Most modern cars, even the most unreliable ones these days, don't just break down and leave you stranded. Even if something does happen, its almost never catastrophic and you can still drive out of whatever situation you're in.

[@Dirty6ixThirty_VP]

This screams 4 runner to me 🤷‍♂️

[@noctilucent7396]

250 does everything this does with way more modern tech. 200 series getting old. Oh god i forgot about the in computer climate controls dont like that.

[@BenHardyCars]

The 250 is a 4Runner+ whereas the 200 is a real cruiser. The 200 is way way way better built.

[@joshuarivera3617]

250 will not last as long is this tho. Also will not retain value the same

[@noctilucent7396]

@BenHardyCars nah 200 and 300 are station wagon land cruisers, 250 is a light duty land cruiser just like the 4runner. If you bought a brand new 5th gen 4runner and a brand new 200 series and drove them exactly the same 4runner would out last the 200 series. Just like The 250 will out last the 300

[@joshuarivera3617]

@@noctilucent7396lol bro what are you smoking ?

[@noctilucent7396]

@@joshuarivera3617 lots and lots of wisdom and decades on ih8mud