Mike Rowe and The ART of Making Money From Fear with Gavin de Becker | The Way I Heard It

Gavin de Becker, the nation’s leading expert on de-escalation and public figure protection, unpacks the importance of intuition, the difference between true fear and unwarranted fear, and the epidemic of sudden, unexpected deaths among seemingly healthy people beginning in 2021.
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[@davidknudson6382]

How refreshing. Two or three people having a civil, intellectual conversation, without raising their voices, not talking over one another, injecting humor from time to time. Mike, your ability, and willingness, to engage, ask a question, then listen, is a dying art. Thanks

[@joandonnelly7206]

I work on a laptop all day and I never had anything delivered during lockdowns and I quickly stopped wearing the face diaper and I dang sure didn't get the pokey poke. I am so grateful to all the people who kept it all going when everybody else was too chicken to step up! Great show and great guest!!

[@albertusagterberg6093]

✝️⚓️❤️ Ora et Labora

[@island03z]

Caution with calling it "face diaper" and pokey poke. You may have missed the part where they talked about insults shutting down discussion, and you want your peers to listen.

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Oh gawd.... stop with the policing already. First, she is describing OBJECTS, not people. Second, the people who mistreated others deserve all kinds of opprobrium and calumnies...

[@thejohnbeck]

The only people whose opinion i value on policy decisions are those who are hurt by them.

[@barryerdman6285]

Infantilizing of grownups!! Say it louder and louder Mike!! Amen and Amen!

[@Peggy-xn3rg]

Thank you Mike for allowing Gavin speak truth about the vax.

[@711yada]

My grandfather taught us that there is honor in any job that is well done.

[@richspizzaparty]

Mike Rowe is a national treasure.

[@gracemcmillen8536]

I 💕 Mike Rowe and what he stands for!!!

[@LMGphilanthropy]

That’s right! Amen. 🙏

[@drummerdgun]

Me too. He is an incredible conservative. True to its name

[@cammieg4381]

Instinct and Common Sense! Another thing that came to mind with what is lacking these days: Self-control AND self-discipline. Examples: You come to a full stop at a stop sign because you see a cop - that's self-control. You come to a full stop at a stop sign because it's safer to make sure no kids on bikes, etc. That's self-discipline. Great interview!

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Or, act appropriate to the situation. If there are people, then fully stop. If nobody is around, then don't. That is called the wisdom and discretion that befits free people in a free country.

[@pottyputter05]

​@@nunnayabiz7911You've missed the point, and demonstrated the lack of discipline. The arrogance and ignorance it takes to miss the point and to think the important bit is the cop is a product of upbringing and state of social/moral decay. Post shame society is you doing the act and openly sharing it with others. Heading in the right direction of back to shame would be you responding in any self aware way to this comment. Ultimately we need to return to personal guilt, failing yourself, your moral code and or God etc.

[@Yooper45]

Yes, we have to stand for ourselves. Defend the peace. Do not rely on government to protect us.

[@416dl]

Please please please have Gavin on again, and again, and again....truly fascinating and more importantly his insights are worth our attention. Cheers.

[@normal_norm2627]

What an interesting dude. Wow. Never heard of him but if I was 30yrs younger, I'd be applying at his academy.

[@michaellujan9440]

This might be the best episode of the podcast I’ve ever heard. Awesome guest.

[@dann2769]

Totally agree!

[@rachelcarter5282]

Never ignore the Instincts God gave you.

[@susancuenin2137]

Thank you for having Mr. De Becker on. His book saved my life and increased my understanding of instincts.

[@keithdecker3428]

2 parent households with the father as a role model is getting rarer and rarer these days.

[@user-fb7jr2fb1q]

So many people choose to give up when it gets hard to be a partner, a parent. It’s unfortunate that they miss out on the possibility of things getting better, and miss out of the best part of their lives.

[@ardmagnuson7403]

I watched it to the end. Thinking of the list of people who are going to question me sending an hour and a half show to them. Incredible guest (as usual) and content that is so pure! Thank you.

[@kjsgarden]

Same. I can’t usually watch videos in which there is only people talking, (like really never) but this one gripped me to the end.

[@ChazToz]

So did I however I’ve spent much more than an hour & a half. More like four hours so far... As a Curious Skeptic, I paused the video to seek other references to over five subject areas. A new sample of Gavin's Fear Book rests in my Kindle library along with two of Clint Hill's books

[@gmc3073]

I said pretty much the same thing in my comment! Totally unexpected and appreciated!

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Congrats, now you're one of us weirdos🤓

[@user-cv7kp4oy8q]

Mike Rowe for president

[@dawnmitchell8213]

This is definitely one of the best podcasts on the internet.

[@jeffhall2411]

man, Top quality guest! Again...

[@Peggy-xn3rg]

Love this guy for speaking out about the C vaccines

[@devils.advocate2354]

😮 that’s not my leg 😂 appreciated everything about this. Thank you Mike Rowe

[@Luzeon]

I dig the picture frames in the background…of this podcast. I raised a son who’s turning 21 soon, too soon. But he is a young man looking for work. School later, I think. I was a way better student getting back into college in my late 20’s…and 30’s. Rather than just dreaming of a career and taking classes to be an Architect. But, I didn’t attend a school that mastered in architecture. So I changed majors to teach. One I noticed the power of Admin over the teachers, and 2 the teachers had to buy all supplies for the year’s curriculum, I didn’t want to be a teacher. Grading papers until 11 pm at home. So I took another job with a picture-frame maker… Covid lockdowns, shop closes, and I’m unemployed. So I started making my own picture-frames. It’s slow going, but I now make things. I love it. I sell them, online. My son gets bored of sanding. There’s a lot of sanding. But he knows, deep down, if he decides to help me make frames, then that will be the thing he ends up doing… He’s not sure if that’s the deck of cards he’s carrying, if that makes sense. Jeez, I’ll write a letter next time 🙏🤣🙌 All that said, I’ll keep my patience with him, and support him in ways that I’m able to.

[@mompfaff]

I have been recommending the book, The Gift of Fear for 25 years. I just ordered one for my friend. This interview was amazing! I am sharing Ed Dowd’s book everywhere I can!! Thank you!!!

[@omarra6781]

I read that book. It was good. And one thing he said always stays with me - Vi0lence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it's the only answer. I trust my gut a lot more than I used to.

[@brightmoon7132]

In my long experience, *always trust your intuition and your fear*. If it's not telling you to do something completely ridiculous, what have you got to lose? If you walk into a store and your instinct tells you to get out of there and you go to another store, what have you lost? Nothing. It was my mom who taught me to listen to mine. Rarely, as in I can count on one hand, is it ever wrong. I read The Gift Of Fear 25 years ago when it first came out, it was fantastic, and a wonderful confirmation for me. Great guest and great show as always. Thank you so much Mike🌝.

[@mbikesrulee]

Thank you for saying.What so many of us have been thinking

[@56Spookdog]

The hand shake at the end was the icing on the cake.

[@deanknight3141]

On airplane evaluation during a smoke filled cabin. Yes count rowes. The most breathable is at armrest hight. Thicker smoke rizes, most toxic is on the floor.

[@genevievemunch8979]

Mike Rowe - thank you so much for having Gavin deBecker on! I read his "Gift of Fear" book years ago - more than once and recommended it to many. Great information - great opportunity to be reminded lessons in the book. I also appreciate you both speaking of current issues in our country. Excellent!

[@gmc3073]

Things ARE tipping your world, Mike. It’s beautiful to see! You are more and more relevant all the time. You are engaging and interesting. I am sick in bed and found myself watching KZbin. This program came up and I was going to watch something a little shorter. Suddenly, I am on the last five minutes of it. Thank you for taking your precious time to inform, educate and entertain (and to do what you do).

[@SugaryPhoenixxx]

On one of the first points about resolving issues yourself without government intervention... One night I stayed the night at my friends new apartment. He was broke so he was living in the "hood". He was proud of his little abode & I was very happy for him that he had a place of his own. Anyways, I was woken up to blaring rap music at 8am that morning. I was really hungover from the night before so I decided to go downstairs & knock on their door. A couple of guys answered the door & looked at me funny that a 21 year old white girl was knocking on their door. I just kindly told them that I also enjoy loud rap music, but could you please hold off until like 11 or so? I could really use some sleep this morning. They actually obliged & I appreciated it. Its true that just asking your neighbors nicely can get you a lot farther than calling the police.

[@caitlinhanson5666]

Please have Gavin back!!

[@georgeunderhill2722]

Good advice on traveling safely on a commercial airplane. Always locate the nearest exit, count the rows, and pre-plan your exit. I didn't hear anything about proper clothing and footwear. Plan for an emergency when getting dressed for travel. No flip flops, slip on's, shorts etc. I see that every day. Finally, as a professional, I certainly do have every passengers safety as my number one priority whenever I'm at the controls. Every pilot I know or fly with has the same priority.

[@robertwestrom6878]

Count the rows. Never give up.

[@asimplehorseman4648]

Gentleman, thank you. I've listened to Ed Dowd on Greg Hunter's website and appreciate the hard numbers he brings to the plate. I also appreciate how Gavin's personality rolls in with Ed's. Truth, integrity and fortitude have a way of doing that.

[@pamelahughes341]

Wow, that was great! I love smart men!! God Bless

[@BelindaMcFaddin]

A NY subway ride with my daughter who has experience taught me a three second rule of etiquette, "stop staring or he will cut you," about another close by rider. Advice taken and not forgotten. Gavin de Becker's stories reminded me. Great guest with great stories. Thanks!

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Ah, what a wonderful Society where some people will cut you simply for looking at them

[@jenniferp403]

I loved the quote at 1:01 so much, that I transcribed it. Sharing here for anyone else who, like me, wants to remember it precisely: “If we are not able to ask skeptical questions or to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then we’re up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious, who comes along. It wasn’t enough, Jefferson said, to enshrine some rights in the Constitution or a Bill of Rights; the people had to be educated and they had to practice their skepticism; otherwise, we don’t run the government, the government runs us.”

[@jennymcgowin9140]

Fascinating interview!!❤❤

[@jasonargonaut6798]

Thanks for having this talk for the Camera. It needed to be said. I appreciate the candor.

[@jtthompson0520]

“How did this country function with the lockdowns? Well, somebody brought you food and the laptop class isn’t thinking about who farmed it, who trucked it, who got it there. A friend of mine said not only does the laptop class not care about people who do work, but they think work is a policy failure.” ~Gavin de Becker Boy, did that resonate with me and offered some new insight into how current decision makers ae thinking. Thanks for a very useful conversation.

[@Chas2348]

Common sense spoken in respectful words. Questions that seek clarity is lifting courage in each consumer.

[@patseevers262]

I cannot even begin to tell the stories of what my older sister's did to me on the ranch... I still have several scars on my body from the torture they inflicted. (I am 65 now.) We laugh every Holiday we have the chance to spend together about all of the wounds we inflicted on each other. There was no such thing as personnel space or any type shit. If I went in my sisters room and took something, I was gonna pay the price! My favorite is, I was breaking a horse maned Satin.... He bucked for about a minute, then settled down to a slow trot, my sister Kathe decide that was Not Enough... Came out of the grain room waving a grain sack. The rest is history, I was having a good time on this colt, & he just simply erupted into a class A bareback horse! I got hung up, & he drug me around a 2 acre pen twice, hanging under his belly. Have so many scars on my back from that. We still laugh, thought the pain is still there. One day........

[@LilyGazou]

Glad you survived without a brain injury or spinal damage. I punched my sister in the face and broke her glasses. Not as dramatic. But I got my butt in trouble.

[@brians5791]

Mike, I have so much respect for you as you’re the calm voice. Thank you for your podcast and shows and wisdom. You’re using “unpack” too often. What an excellent interview and subject. Thanks again Mike

[@crocodilegrundee4514]

Yeah Mike, I agree. What has happened to manners. I’m 55 and will still either be on time, or die trying. If there’s no way I can make it, I will do everything I can to let the person know well in advance.

[@cynthiawaite4410]

If we had a party, I'd go to my nieghbors and say" if we disturbe you" " come and either let us know or join us"

[@lisareiter5368]

We asked our neighbors to relocate their fireworks party after years of patience. It stopped being okay when their fireworks went past 2:00 a.m., our cat ran away, and their fireworks litter covered our back yard. When their sons refused to clean up after, we told them we were done.

[@phtochk7]

I've asked loud neighbors to turn down the volume and they've gotten aggressive with me, tried to attack me, cuss me and my husband out... so no, at that point the cops are getting involved. The USA needs to have manners, civility, common courtesy taught again.

[@sumofme1]

I agree people have gone ferel it's from sorros funded d.a. and people who forgot how to get rid of them because schools have dumbed down people 😮

[@Talon19]

Unfortunately, teaching courtesy, manners, kindness, and other such things in SEIL curriculum is being actively protested.

[@Laszlo34]

Mike et al, I really absolutely LOVE your show! Thank you so much for everything.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Thy SON OF MAN kept! Gratitude and Honor

[@chevyguy-hf1yq]

Love you Mike...

[@StrugglesWithWords]

Thanks to Chuck for letting this go long! It's a good one.

[@freeandcriticalthinker4431]

Damn what a FINE interview! Great job guys!

[@oliverjamito9902]

Uplifted the Basket and blessed!

[@sherischneider2390]

Wonderful interview. Many thanks to Mike and his guest.

[@dedeschuringa1529]

Thank you as always Mike for having interesting and amazing guests! It took me a minute to put together his name with the book "The Gift of Fear". OMG great book! After reading it, I bought several copies when it first came out, and gave them to my friends who needed it. (Constantly choosing Bad abusive boyfriends, creepy bosses, thugs hanging around their apartments...) Glad I personally have inherent senses to rational fear...although noticed not many people do - was delighted to give out your book 7 times! Thank you for all you do!!

[@elizabethcarrera9626]

Fabulous! Love the down to earth conversations that make so much common sense that I have to pinch myself. What demon has taken over our world in the past couple years? Back to basics is a formula for hope and contentment. Superb guest!

[@hhlagen]

Great interview!! Mike you are a treasure for what you are doing. Thank you!

[@howardmallisonii503]

About 7:05: Certain segments of the political spectrum think that nobody should be held accountable for their actions. This only escalates the bad actions because there are no consequences.

[@rocky8758]

What political party are you referring to? I just wanted to know because the way I see it they both cause a lot of problems.

[@andrewcopple7075]

@@rocky8758 The part that praises collectivism and promotes victimhood.

[@bhive6026]

@@rocky8758 The Anti-cop party, the anti-arrest folks because of race, the party that doesn't care if laws are broken by foreigners crossing illegally, the party that convicted Trump of 34 felonies for a paperwork violation. Got it?

[@ShroomFactory]

True - the Republicans were never held accountable for selling WMD's and those lies.

[@Talon19]

Conservatives

[@LunarVision12]

Great topic, great guest, great conversation. Thank you!

[@franksprecisionguesswork501]

Up until my recent retirement I have been involved in telecommunications for over 40 years. early on I was completely enthralled with the idea of a world wide high speed network, the ability to produce useful content, teaching content, specialized programming, (with some exceptions) has now devolved into this equivalent of a town meeting with 140 people talking and no one listening. Add to that, the hideous manipulation of the masses by a few people that learned the methodology early on. Then there’s the rules that prevent the dissemination of sound medical advice, whether it’s a good or bad drug, or a good or bad food. No one is to be trusted and don’t you dare give medical advice Les tried or you be sued or tarred and feathered! And don’t get met started on the organizations that have the word “news” in their names when the last time they actually reported news was 1979. I hope the smart and sane people win. Thanks Mike and Gavin for a great video. Mike Rowe for president!

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Yeah, I worked in the news business years ago, right out of college, and can certify that almost nothing going on under the banner of MSM has anything to do with journalism. Rather, it's anti-journalism. It's state captured propaganda. We could have that noble ideal of the internet, but it will take radical decentralizing of ownership and control of the infrastructure and major platforms. Just think of an internet where we all own a piece of everything ( as we should, since they're all making money off either billing us for service or selling our data) from ISP up, and our default portal of entry isn't run by Big Tech but a local or micro local site. We also have to take back our broadcast spectrum btw... while everyone worries about what happens with the internet, basically a couple of corporations have bought the entire terrestrial radio industry -- the entire am/fm dial nationwide. Call-in talk radio was the internet before the internet.

[@nunnayabiz7911]

Yeah, I worked in the news business years ago, right out of college, and can certify that almost nothing going on under the banner of MSM has anything to do with journalism. Rather, it's anti-journalism. It's state captured propaganda. We could have that noble ideal of the internet, but it will take radical decentralizing of ownership and control of the infrastructure and major platforms. Just think of an internet where we all own a piece of everything ( as we should, since they're all making money off either billing us for service or selling our data) from ISP up, and our default portal of entry isn't run by Big Tech but a local or micro local site. We also have to take back our broadcast spectrum btw... while everyone worries about what happens with the internet, basically a couple of corporations have bought the entire terrestrial radio industry -- the entire am/fm dial nationwide. Call-in talk radio was the internet before the internet.

[@jennifervert2601]

Great, fascinating interview !!

[@cheeks2696]

Situational awareness!

[@amberrandles4753]

Thank you, gentlemen for an informative and brief review of when reason and sanity were instilled in young people. Which you are both evidence of in glaring clarity! I am a fan and look forward to hearing from you both in the future. ❤

[@user-tj8wv7ri7d]

Pont here Gavin. Some of the aircraft windows won't "easily" fit through the space to allow them to be thrown outside. Also, newer generation aircraft, depending upon manufacturer and model are hinged to open outside once cabin pressure is neutral. The PAX (passenger) should read the instruction card in the seat back in front of them that reveals all...but seldom do. I believe the accident you're discussing was Air Florida on the 14th St. bridge.

[@user-tj8wv7ri7d]

Mike and Gavin, the floors were called "Nightingale" floors.

[@jackreacher.]

28 stitches then laughter - further comment: non-existent.

[@noberet]

Great show, thank you!

[@friendlyone2706]

Most important interview you've done... except for the one in the future dedicated exclusively to the book Cause Unknown.

[@carolmcneil761]

Nice - lessons my father emphasized. Pride in hard work, be aware of your surroundings, trust your instincts and actions have consequences. Thankful that being a sceptic and instinct kept me from the jab. Thank you for sharing this Informative wonderful conversation.

[@emilypalmer3053]

This is FANTASTIC!

[@logger4711]

Fantastic show!

[@swopejp]

I think the suggestion that passengers be asked to participate in the defense of the plane in the event of an attack is one of the best ideas I've ever heard. People will do almost anything they are asked to do, but are also very unlikely to volunteer to put themselves in harms way. If there is a clearly articulated expectation that people are supposed to help each other, many people (not all, of course) will be much more likely to intervene. People hate to go against the expectations of the group.

[@dorinnaforest8937]

After 1 hour it becomes very interesting, thank you

[@oliverjamito9902]

My pops Gavin and Mike. Thank you for attending unto our OWN and thy visitation to comfort the COMFORTER! Pops carry thy comfort with Thee! Love you both pops! Remember who said if ye LOVE me? Attend unto my Shared Feet. Sabbath come here in front! Remind! LORD without thy WATER. What is Sabbath? Indeed. Washer of feet of neighbors and if sincere tears is EVIDENT! Pops without shame but with boldness I will wiped thy tears from your eyes!

[@CovertKineticSystems]

The quack😂😂😂 Keep up the great work gentlemen

[@menwithven8114]

Im a lomg time fan of Mike and a long time fan of JRE. He seems like the perfect person to go on JRE. I don't understand how this hasn't happened

[@bobme2787]

Great podcast

[@howardmallisonii503]

About 29:41: One very important item that is no longer promoted these days is ... hard work. People want stuff for free, without having to work for it or earn it.

[@ShroomFactory]

You can't blame people for following their leaders.

[@relleknoj]

Thank you.

[@calex9398]

@Mike Rowe you have been summoned to appear on the Bearded Butchers podcast, hope to see you there!

[@rvnerd7671]

I stand with you, Sir! Great content!

[@johnsanabria3279]

I gotta say that Mike Rowe has the most interesting plea for subscribing on YT that I've ever heard! 😅

[@cassmarkonthemove]

Great video, thanks Mike Rowe! keep on keeping on!

[@ds9932]

Not to mention the idiocy of the anti covid properties of naugahyde. As soon as you sit your butt on the chair/booth you could take off the mask in a restraunt!

[@lynwessel2471]

And plexiglass barriers. Warm germ laden breath rises, floats over the barrier and as it cools it descends on the party on the other side.

[@miss3305]

Thank you gentlemen!

[@jonboatwright7777]

Great interview.

[@pamelaanis715]

Situational awareness!!

[@maureenparran8918]

Very interesting interview, thank you so much

[@donaldsell8432]

Good stuff….great conversation!!

[@jjd139]

WOW, what an episode. Thank you Mike Rowe.

[@RedFlyerMedia]

Oh my gosh! Gavin de Becker is moving to San Antonio??? I might actually get to meet him.

[@EllenSmyth]

Oh, wow! I love that you've written specifically for victims of domestic violence. That is awesome and a huge need in our world. I've known far too many women who were victims, unfortunately, and I always wished I could help.

[@robinmiller5256]

Do you ever wonder why she picked the guy who is violent? Women need to start making way better choices….and then there’s the kids..

[@EllenSmyth]

@@robinmiller5256 Absolutely! Not in a blame the victim kind of way, but some of the women I knew would get away only to go back, and that really made me wonder. “You made your children what they are…. These children that come at you with knives, they are your children." --Charles Manson On Father's Day, I salute the fathers out there who keep their daughters safe and their sons kind, both at home and far, far beyond. Yes, these women are certainly emotionally and psychologically abused to get them to that point, but raising strong daughters and loving sons is the prevention that will save their lives on both sides. I suspect that both the girls growing up that way would be more likely to become victims while the boys growing up with domestic abuse would be more likely to become the perpetrators. So kudos to Gavin de Becker for not only climbing out of that hole but for reaching back in to get others out. Impressive, indeed!

[@beckykistenmacher8230]

I really enjoyed this podcast!

[@AnthonyCeravolo]

Both his book and the two written by Lt. Colonel Grossman mentioned are excellent. Especially On Combat I would highly recommend it.

[@VorpalBunnysRevenge]

This video is making me think of breaking one of my primary maxims: If you heard it on the Internet, it's probably not true.

[@WvlfDarkfire]

Such a beautiful ending...*subscribed*

[@jenniferp403]

Bonus points to Mike for his use of the word “efficacious” from this word nerd.

[@jameslee-dp6cb]

Honor means nothing to the younger generations and its been getting worse for decades. High school teachers have been quitting because of it. Churches are silent about it. And college seems to be promoting it. Now, colleges are closing down. Churches are almost abandoned by the youth. And, like I said, teachers are quitting their jobs. Nurses are quitting in record numbers. Markets are in panic due to the fear that consumers are not buying. But none of these things made America great. It was working together that made America great. It was respect between people that made America great. And it was morals that gave our nation the respect and working together that made it possible for America to be great.

[@PetPrepRadioShow]

Amazing! Thank you gentlemen! I am saving and sharing this interview, AND I'm going to do some reading! I love you guys! Sheri The Organic Pet Lady --

[@Michelle-yq6st]

Great episode!

[@oliverjamito9902]

Hosts what is a bastard? No bastard here! Indeed gratitude and Honor