The She-Wolf Queen Who Overthrew Edward II | The Plantagenets | Real Royalty

[@kockoskorven]

I love the story of Isabella. There's nothing like a woman scorned but being married off at 12 to a homosexual man, forced to watch his dalliance with his boyfriend for many years and then having her children taken off her without him doing anything.... OHHH NOO! Feel the wrath! And rightly so.

[@CorntwallLipstickQueen]

honmophobe

[@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821]

this is why if your a noble be it king or lord, never snub and piss off your wife, that generally ends rather badly

[@JB-qt3wo]

Easy solution to that. Just don’t get married!

[@curiousme113]

@@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821 idk king Henry the 8th seemed to have a solution for wives that weren't satisfying to him

[@unniebunny2551]

@J B you say that as if she had a choice in the matter. This were during the medieval times, she was a bargaining tool.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Isabella sure knew how to keep her mouth shut and play the long game.

[@Elisa-ul2we]

She was just a child and probably didn't realise her marriage wasn't normal. Once old enough she must have wanted revenge.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@Elisa-ul2we medieval history is the history of children riding into battle at 16, giving birth to kings at 13 ( Margret Beaufort) she would have known that her husband's boyfriend shouldn't be wearing her jewels and sitting in her place and giggling with her groom at the wedding breakfast, if she didn't she would have been suspicious when her uncle walked out furiously. She probably knew revenge is a dish best eaten cold.

[@pavolskubak2187]

@@Elisa-ul2we Isabella was dangerous woman from childhood. She sent her sisters-in-law to jail for adultery (Tour de Nestle affair). Isabella was only Phillip the Fair's daughter..

[@acostumedqueer7688]

Edward at his coronation: *chatting non stop with his boyfriend* Everyone else: 👀 w a t

[@stunseed8385]

'man is he gay or something?' - those nobles, probably.

[@TheBasher-_-]

Sounds hot tbh 😂

[@rorygilmore2470]

@@CaptainBlaine isabella: 👁️👃🏻👁️

[@bensonfang1868]

hey at least he wasn't creeping on his 12 year old "wife"

[@sese6227]

@@CaptainBlaine 🤣🤣 He just wanted to live young, wild & free. Bless his heart.

[@jnieswartz4878]

I’m going to take a shot in the dark that Gavinston and the king were more then “pals”

[@susanfalconedaquino3623]

That is crystal clear. That was the issue with Edward's father. Clearly Edward II was gay or bi at the very least.

[@takohamoolsen2432]

Your shot is deadly accurate

[@Lafever1883]

That seems pretty spot on . Edwards father had the guy banished because he was a "Bad influence". He spent more time with him then his own wife or anyone else at their coronation. Then he sent him away to save him but could not just let him go and brought the guy back and he paid for it with his life.

[@plamenivanov92]

Gaveston and Hugh The Younger are probably the most well known gay man in England like Chavalier Phillippe de Lorraine in France however Phillippe was not even exactly gey he was bi-sexual he actually died after a night of sex whit a woman and he had a son Alexander the bastard of Lorraine from a female paramour plus Phillippe even married his cousin Beatrice Hieronyme de Lorraine

[@plamenivanov92]

Years later George Duke of Clarence allso dies at Pontefract castle

[@ericbrown1101]

In my opinion, the story of Isabella and Roger Mortimer and their overthrow of her husband is the best example in medieval English history of real life being more incredible than Hollywood. This had everything: a battle for a throne, sex, scandal, war, and a cast of characters no screenwriter could come up with. Kinda surprised no one (at least since Christopher Marlowe) has made this into a movie or a show.

[@detroiterhere4897]

Excellent observations! 👍

[@Sincity702boy]

This was actually the premise for game of thrones according to GRR Martin.

[@ericbrown1101]

@@Sincity702boy Game of Thrones was inspired predominantly by the Wars of the Roses of the 15th century and the Heptarchy period of Anglo-Saxon England back in the 8th century I think, along with some medieval French history. The new HOTD series is based heavily on The Anarchy, a 12th century war of succession for the English throne. English history provides all the material GRRM could ever need lol.

[@KalyanaDesignTutorials]

@@ericbrown1101 I don't know, Rhaenyra+Daemon kind of have Isabella+Mortimer vibes.

[@di3486]

Braveheart…

[@Reader1984]

I've been on a War Of The Roses research binge for weeks. So fascinating. You can't make this stuff up, just legendary.

[@boogiesmell5181]

Hehe, you totally can make such things up as several of the key aspects in this documentary are completely false. I made some corrections to this at length in my comment above.

[@silviunastase5571]

So, one dude speaks of the War of the Roses, more than 100 years after Edward II reign and another dude thinks he knows better than Dan Jones about the Plantagenets.

[@boogiesmell5181]

@@silviunastase5571 It would be foolish to just accept everything Dan Jones says at face value. He's not some infallible ultimate authority even if some dude in a comment section seems to think so. Plenty of historians disagree with him as well. He has a tendency to take shortcuts and oversimplify things at times. And yes, in this instance, based on very credible sources I do know better than him.

[@mygreatescape9617]

Never mess with a mom and her cubs you will get burned, that's what Isabella basically said and did and God bless her for it

[@danieltoft2116]

Bless her for murder and treason? You know her son really never forgave her for that, so much for being moma bear or whatever

[@ucky9675]

@@danieltoft2116 ?? That wasn’t what her son got angry about. Look at the letters he sent, he allowed her back at court and playing with her grandkids. His anger came from her lover and her reluctance to give up her newfound freedom. Under medieval law power was exercised by men. Instead of giving that power to her son she kept it and let her lover use it. They reconciled after his coronation and in return for staying out of politics her son son allowed her to live without being forced into another marriage or be shipped back to france

[@juantonio0788]

It's just beautiful how she goes all out. Like, FROM THE MOMENT she starts banging her husband's WORST FUCKING ENEMY. Though to be fair their mutual hatred of the Despensers was a powerful pull there.

[@raechelcleberg8854]

I get that part but she sadly let power and revenge go to her head as well as whatever Mortimer whispered in her ear and her reputation really suffered for it.

[@boogiesmell5181]

Isabella and Mortimer weren't lovers. There is no evidence for this. Malicious, misogynistic medieval chroniclers with no insight do not count.

[@adoramae5436]

I love how Gavaston wasn't executed bc he and the king were (likely) gay, he was executed because the king was literally too gay to function when his boyfriend was in the country. All Edward had to do was do his job and get shit done.

[@ashleelarsen7765]

LoL too gay to function - shit that October 3rd guy was on the news the other day- Aaron I think

[@chocho8036]

basically right nobles very jealous of titles and property, pocketbook first !

[@Jobi.]

If he treated Gavestan as kings did to their mistresses, he might have not lost anything and remain king

[@SIERRATREES]

Nonchalantly eating an apple while Dispensar getting torn apart, the shewolf was a tough cookie..

[@juanitarichards1074]

The French nobles were also incensed that Edward gave all their expensive wedding gifts for the king and new queen to Gaveston. Edward ignored his new bride and spent all his time with Gaveston, which did her a great dishonour. Imagine having to deal with all this, in a strange country as a 12 year old bride.

[@Orphen42O]

Isabelle was a loyal and faithful wife for the first years of her marriage. She was "tattled" on the adultery of her sisters-in-law. After meeting Mortimer, Isabelle turned against her husband and encouraged a rebellion.

[@chocho8036]

the wedding gift story is considered by many historians more rumor than exact fact, but the rest is quite true , Edward was obsessed with lavishing titles and property on his favorites the nasty rumor started more from Gaveston becoming Earl of Cornwall, a title meant for Edwards half brother, son of still living widowed queen Marguerite , wife to Edward I, Edwards father naturally she was incensed and the titles for Gaveston kept coming thick and fast someone considered basically just a royal servant getting titles meant for the highest, like Kings Regent Protector of England , in charge when the king was away

[@juanitarichards1074]

@@chocho8036 According to what I read in several different accounts, Edward gave many of the wedding gifts to Gaveston at the wedding feast and the brides relatives were so incensed that they walked out. Edward was busy canoodling with Gaveston while his bride sat there, ignored.

[@jazminmuro9692]

Isabella probably tried to make it work as three people in the marriage life, but as she grew older and wiser she realized her husband did not care one wit about her, but making him not care if their children were taken from her care. That was when she snapped her jaws of fangs to invade england to put her son on the throne.

[@joemammon6149]

Bros before hoes.

[@KarynaNationArt]

The narrator is enjoying every second of this gruelling history! 🤣

[@roolenoir3183]

I love this part of him. He’s so blood thirsty. I like when they show us the war machines that they used in war. So brutal!! Can you imagine boiling someone in oil ?

[@aunch3]

Typical Englishman. They revel in this kind of thing 😂

[@treydixon5399]

I would have gotten much better grades in school if my teachers had loved their subject this much. Jones genuinely loves telling his story.

[@mangot589]

He does. I actually bought an audiobook BY him, but not read by him. I honestly would rebuy it if he did a do over and narrated it himself. I prefer to read them myself, but I love listening to this stuff when I’m falling asleep lol.

[@plamenivanov92]

That's what I love about him

[@terryazamber3398]

I love anything with Dan Jones in it. He explains history in such a fascinating way. My favorite phrase is "banged up in the Tower."

[@djb3500]

"banged. Up in the Tower." There. Fixed it.

[@jennijenkins5235]

Yea. His “Friend”. Good ollllllle Gaveston. Just close buddies those two

[@solidraven6986]

Yeah they were the best of buds kind Of like gimli and legolas.

[@ronakino]

Just a couple of besties! 😂

[@brethager3265]

It's Britain. It's not surprising at all. It's normal there. You notice how common homosexuality is over there now.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

They were roommates lol

[@AriusBLK]

Yeah … riiifgghht … sure. That’s why Gaveston’s initials are intertwined with Edward II’s at the marriage feast to Isabella.

[@LollipopLozzy454545]

Edward: *puts Gaveston's coat of arms up where his bride's should be and spends the entire coronation talking to Gaveston* *Is willing to literally give up what he believes is his God-given powers just so he doesn't have to lose Gaveston* Historians: Hmm yup seems hetero

[@carmenpeters728]

They were all kids. Teenage kids.

[@LollipopLozzy454545]

@@carmenpeters728 Kids can be gay Carmen

[@IOU88]

@@LollipopLozzy454545 🤣

[@Linogewillkillallofy]

I mean they said that in the video. What are you trying to say captain obvious?

[@brucewatson9700]

Edward's first boyfriend was killed by the Scott's

[@elliecee2034]

"obsession with his friend" funny way of saying this man was in love with his best friend lol

[@sese6227]

Pretty sure it was his boyfriend....

[@pookiesis1465]

I'm not saying that the dude is gay,but.....

[@Orphen42O]

@@pookiesis1465 It is possible that Edward II was not in a homosexual relationship with Piers. Edward may have simply been dominated by Piers much in the way Queen Anne was dominated by Sarah Churchill. People with little self-confidence and low self-esteem are often attracted to people with charisma. Any time a royal has a favorite there are problems. Other nobles become jealous and resentful. Factions develop. William of Orange had a close friend named Arnold van Keppel; James I favored George, the Duke of Buckingham. Perhaps rulers felt that they had the right to have special friendships that met their emotional needs. Both Edward and Piers were married men and fathers.

[@MaiNguyen-ck4br]

It more like their responsibility to have kids gay people still can have hetero sex

[@chocho8036]

i have read histories of this and Edward was indeed OBSESSED , no matter what nature if relationship. Edward thought of little else and was only successful and motivated in using his political talents at promoting or bringing G. back from exile. it was said that if only Edward applied himself to being a king in the same way

[@nycot107]

Isabella is a total badass, I love her

[@askimbeatrix8245]

I mean, we kinda know that Edward and Gaveston were in a relationship since at Isabella and Edward’s wedding he was wearing more than purple. He was wearing her jewels, her queen’s jewels to be exact. He was sitting next to the king, and it didn’t look like some party, it looked like Edward and Gaveston’s wedding.

[@raechelcleberg8854]

Gaveston was too arrogant, just like Edward. He didn't have to go back to England the second time Edward summoned him, he could've lived if he'd thought things through but he trusted that Edward could protect him. Nope.

[@thomashyatt1882]

Banished to France for being a bad influence lmao

[@jamesbegin452]

lol, because the French will help.

[@sese6227]

This video is very lax on the details lol It's said the Queen Isabella's father was mortified by how his daughter was treated on her wedding day & paid for Gav to be exiled to France. It's also said that King Edward l was uncomfortable with how codependent his son was with Gaveston, which is why he was exiled originally.

[@Elisa-ul2we]

Well that's a fate I wouldn't wish on anyone.

[@normiron736]

I kept thinking he was calling those men "The Dispensers" like a feudal version of the A team, lol

[@diarradunlap9337]

*Edward II, talking about Piers Gaveston* "Oh, he's just a friend." Isabella of France channeling Biz Markie from the future "YOU! You got what I nee-eed, but you say he's 'just a friend'. But you say he's 'just a friend'."

[@kristiebrown5808]

I literally sang it lol!!

[@takeshinharmony552]

Looking at the comments section, I think we all came to the very same accurate conclusion. LOL

[@sese6227]

A lot of historians came to that conclusion too. No idea why this guy's claiming otherwise lol

[@lisalane7916]

@@sese6227 , ,,

[@lisalane7916]

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[@Elisa-ul2we]

Did you or anyone actually watch the documentary? He makes no secret of their probable relationship, but this is history, salacious rumours aren't facts. Sad this is the only point of interest for most is the sexual innuendo...sign of the times.

[@george217]

I knew Edward and Gaveston were more than friends when he named him Earl of Cornhole...

[@george217]

@@TermotanqueDeHamsik I got that...

[@carmenpeters728]

You mean Corn WALL.

[@george217]

@@carmenpeters728 It was a joke. You know what a joke is? Something that people with a sense of humor tell...

[@neilabaqui9449]

Ele poderia ser bissexual...

[@CKing-388]

Lol 😂

[@B0Sajwah]

Thank you for the visual story telling. That's what makes documentaries special.

[@ericbrown1101]

It was certainly...visual 😳lol. Didn't expect to need a cold shower after watching a documentary🤣. It was great though. The lack of prudishness was satisfying.

[@travisinthetrunk]

If you watch closely you can see a documentary in between the advertisements.

[@jimmybe64]

I haven't seen any advertisements. Then I suppose you haven't got an adblocker?.

[@travisinthetrunk]

@@jimmybe64 I’ve tried, but they all cost money.

[@jimmybe64]

@@travisinthetrunkII have 4 free downloaded on my laptop, 1 on my tablet and 1 on my phone all free. The 4 on my laptop are so I can outsmart catch up free to air TV which is always changing how ads load. So far I have been able to beat them. KZbin is easy to watch ad free for free.

[@jimmybe64]

@@travisinthetrunk Free Adblocker Browser is one of apps I use.

[@carolmorris404]

@@jimmybe64I am happy it works in your country. I am not paying more so will grin and bear the adds, mindlessly pressing the ad notification until it is finished🇿🇦

[@misslithi]

Say what you want, Ed loved me best.

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

Did u make this account just to get 63 likes?

[@Odysseus_King_of_Ithica]

@@newyardleysinclair9960 it's easy to change the name on your Google/YT.

[@yaang9258]

bravo Lord Gaveston. I'm sorry you were treated badly

[@judiesuh6858]

Ok... Gaveston!

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@newyardleysinclair9960 93

[@TheChugg11]

“Lancaster has Edward over a barrel”...this angered him as that was Gaveston’s job

[@lyndsieannette957]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jamellfoster6029]

😂😂😅😅😳😳😂😂😅😅😆😆!!! I almost fell out of my bed laughing at this joke....

[@พอลเรย์มอนด์]

Was at 69 likes So just had to take it to 70 For obvious reasons😂

[@albertrogers2506]

I had exactly the same thought!

[@misslithi]

I KNOW!!!!!

[@sammysoppy3361]

Why was Edward so obsessed with his friend? we sure he was just... a ..... “friend”? i meaaan 😬

[@franciscodanconia45]

He was a sword swallower

[@hollyhilpert9417]

Everyone knows they were more than just friends. Just as James the First of England, had his favorites as well. Even though he was married and had children, many believe he was also gay.

[@carolmorris404]

Regardless, in the 21st century it would have been irrelevant. His bf could have become a female. Gawd would I live to see the faces of the world at the time seeing a 21st century trans gender.

[@nicoleserenalauer3027]

A very deeeeeep friend! 🤣

[@robynsegg]

"You say he's just a friend... and you say he's just a friend... OH BABY YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU... (#RIPBizMarkie)

[@eleanorcarpenter37]

Queen Isabella is badass, the power moves she makes are just beautiful

[@ardenalexa94]

Which I think scared many of the men at that time. It was unthinkable for them that a woman could be that smart and cunning. I do admire her guts.

[@danieltoft2116]

@@ardenalexa94 she didnt act alone, she had help from another guy, and when her son took power he punished both of them. I love that people think murder is just beautiful

[@ardenalexa94]

@@danieltoft2116 I don’t think murder is beautiful. I wish she could’ve handled it another way but I understand why she handled it the way she did and that brutality was the only language men like her husband understood

[@Tyleya]

Narrator: He’s brought here because unlike Warwick Castle, Blacklow Hill is Lancaster’s land. Lancaster: Tell Edward....I want him to know it was me.

[@davidmanhart1]

TYleya? I am in LOVE with you!!!!! Lady Tyrell was my second most favorite character. After Lady Mormont. Then Arya of course.

[@anastasiaisabella7354]

@@davidmanhart1 😅

[@carapo66]

Appreciate the fact that they speak French and mot English with some plummy upper class accent.

[@jaimelowe4246]

Two bros chillin in a throne room, 5 feet apart cause they’re not gay.

[@bgbreakdown]

Gay AF.

[@tedthesailor172]

It's called `ye sociale distancing...'

[@truecrimerip7936]

Ahahha love it

[@littlemisssarcasm6263]

🤣

[@wendyw8931]

Yeah, but doesn't a throne room have only one throne. My Dad used the throne room to read Mad Magazine.

[@drmodestoesq]

It was only a matter of time before Professor Jones uttered the phrase, "Banged up in the tower."

[@chrismorris6865]

I was thinking the same thing! Dan Jones is the best with these royal documentaries, I wish he made more.

[@debsmart5214]

😹

[@theviking6052]

You mean his boyfriend

[@harleyquinn5774]

"Friend" "Buddy" "Mate"

[@davidmanhart1]

"Allegedly" though. Like Liberache was "allegedly gay".

[@harleyquinn5774]

David Manhart LoL, yes. 🤣

[@sylverscale]

Nah, he probably screwed his "friend". 😅

[@MrAdryan1603]

So what if they were together? Plenty of kings have done the same for women. Evenither way, one obviously can't be a fair and just ruler when they would give it up for a lover. I agree with that part. Cheers

[@davidmanhart1]

@@MrAdryan1603 No other king (or queen) elevated their piece on the side to such a high level though. And he was warned about it. And warned. And warned. He did get what he deserved for being so incompetent. Hubris

[@richardlahan7068]

Glad that Isabella took up for herself and her kids.

[@PrincessKarrah]

Exactly it ridiculous that Isabel has been so vilified for rebelling and because she may or may not have order Edward murder after everything Edward put her through and then he did nothing when his favorite took her kids away.

[@Brighteyes95866]

Hell has no fury like a Woman's Scorn! Damn

[@carmenpeters728]

You misquoted ...'hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned'. The writer was William Congreve. It's not scorn you'll face...it's fury.

[@mamavswild]

He didn’t just ‘scorn’ her though...he stood by as her babies were ripped from her (MAMA BEAR NOISES INTENSIFY!!!)

[@gennehring1]

"Lancaster had Edward over a barrel." Not the barrel Edward had hoped for.

[@jonramsey6348]

WHOAAAHHH ..... man I’m glad I found this channel.... Gotta pause and think for a second..... Isabella married this dude as she was a 12 year old little girl..... one can only imagine the psychological pain and abuse she went through to grow up into the “ She Wolf “

[@actionjackson3522]

It was commonplace at the time for noble girls to be married as soon as they had their first menstrual cycle. I think Allison Weir's book actually implies the marriage wasn't consummated until Isabella was older.

[@fatty8223]

It was common then to have 12-15 year olds(usually rich) marry.

[@meelodeshmeeelo2034]

David Gaines wtf ?? "12 year olds ARE plenty grown to be married" ???

[@meelodeshmeeelo2034]

Disgusted with davids comment.

[@jjhpor]

@@actionjackson3522 They were often married even younger but normally in that case they wouldn't let the groom near her until she showed at least a hint of sexual maturity.

[@seraphik]

damn, isabella is a stone cold badass.

[@albertrogers2506]

I flatly disagree. Any woman that at 12 years old could put up with such an insult, and still do her best to give Edward an escape hatch once or twice, richly deserved the she-wolf power attributed to her later years, when she had a REAL lover. But I wonder who was the actual sire of her first child.

[@bensonfang1868]

@@albertrogers2506 Edward III didn’t even have his legitimacy contested when he claimed the French throne

[@reginawhitlock4227]

@@albertrogers2506 I don't blame her one bit! Good for her!

[@davidbruce5524]

@@reginawhitlock4227 yep. if you dont show your wife the appropriate attention both day and night, she will find someone who will.

[@Oksana7305]

@@albertrogers2506 No reason to doubt it was Edward 11

[@janicebillington2633]

Anyone who snatches a mother's children from her deserves everything that's coming to them.

[@dawhvatdyit3027]

Snatch m sluggart.

[@yakkityyak9336]

amen!

[@angetalks4331]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@davidmanhart1]

Your homophobia is on display. Wow.

[@davidmanhart1]

@@yakkityyak9336 How "christian" of you.

[@susanfalconedaquino3623]

Edward II was an ineffective King and Isabella was used and abused. They took her children and she's called a She Wolf. You bet she's a She Wolf. I'd be the same if someone took my children. Edward would never change, he brought it on himself. If it wasn't Isabella, it would have been someone else. But because she was a woman it was doubly bad. Double standards, they stink.

[@roolenoir3183]

My grown daughter and our hubby’s were playing Trivia and asked something about the She wolf of France. I answered. That child of mine Was like that’s wrong . All 3 of us looked at her till she looked at the answer. How do you know this crap? You quit school at 8th grade. Maybe so but though I’m no genius my IQ runs 130 .

[@jenniferclark9842]

More like a mama bear protecting her cubs.

[@thetawaves48]

The power and wealth of the present is still based upon the brutality of the past.

[@yvettemoore1228]

@Brother Jake's Reconnaissance but she’s right.

[@frostedpumpkin3910]

It’s called history, genius

[@frostedpumpkin3910]

Brother Jake's Reconnaissance wise words from another genius that I have found on the internet 🙏

[@mouthpiece200]

Yes, but its impossible to completely erase the effects of wrongdoings of the past. Might as well try to erase the effects of your parents making love.

[@yvettemoore1228]

@@mouthpiece200 true but not impossible to learn from or apologise for. It wasn’t our fault but we need to acknowledge it and make some kind of apology to the descendants of those our ancestors wronged

[@jamiemiller7316]

It's never a good idea to mess with a she-wolfs cubs. She will fight to the death for them.

[@katekrylov]

The story was pretty well told by Maurice Druon in his The Accused Kings series of his. From the French point of observation certainly, since Isabella was a French princess.

[@kweejibodali7009]

the 2005 version was really great, that and the seventies version are stunning, but the later one had clearer sound for understanding, and it is more complete published here in entirety, and the seventies one is incomplete, would have loved to see all of that version

[@madeleinedartois4689]

I love this series of novels ! I am re-reading it for the third time right now

[@DeidreL9]

Absolutely loved this, incredible documentary, thank you so much!❤️

[@valkyrie9256]

“Piers Gaveston. Edward’s BEST FRIEND.” *People are gay, Steven.*

Not everyone is a degenerate like you

[@valkyrie9256]

Jason Me if you mean lgbt+ people by “degenerates”, like an intolerant idiot, well i am not, but Edward II actually was so oop-

[@valkyrie9256]

Jason Me got it, they were roommates.

[@carmenpeters728]

Normal people don't broadcast their sexual preferences as general public information.

[@franciscodanconia45]

hola loo they were snappy dressers.

[@frightbat208]

I think Isabella turned on her husband and the Despensers for messing with her kids and lands. She put up with a lot before that. Tiger mUm /she-wolf.

[@jasminspepperpot8156]

Good for mama bear. That husband of hers was a evil.

[@uameamalositagatanofoalii7226]

Just a bitch

[@joesr.shannavanausdall855]

They were cared for by a governess. She probably seen very little of them. Its basically just the idea of giving them to one governess rather than the other.

[@antoniosessa6521]

@boo boo Pssst, buddy. Wrong Isabella. You're about 180 years ahead of the story.

[@derrickbonsell]

Edward III set her aside as soon as he could, I don't think there was much maternal love there.

[@beanbeaner7263]

Them speaking french is a really nice touch

[@Moleanimationchannel]

This king was almost as bad as the commercial breaks on this video.

[@Formally-known-Prince-Andrew]

Use Firefox instead of KZbin app.

[@deezkoshernuts1249]

ublock origin is free ad blocker. I never see ads on YT, ever

[@Saekaichan]

Get an Adblocker queen, itll change ya life.

[@paullambert8701]

The king could not offer you an adblock.

[@davidcartledge6620]

lol

[@lawrenceiverson1924]

Note that at the coronation feast G. is wearing a crown.He was the king and Edward the Queen.

[@misslithi]

I look much better in purple as well, facts.

[@chocho8036]

and had his banners, six eagles, hanging alongside Edward's banner... no French royal banners in sight as if Isabella did not exist

[@overcomerbtboj]

@@misslithi 🤣🤣

[@Pablo668]

It surely can't be that hard to get a hold of the padded garments that went under the chainmail can it? Otherwise the maille is pointless. Edward II was described as tall and athletic, if disolute and indecisive, though also obstinate. He was besotted with Gaveston due to the high likelyhood of them being lovers, gay for want of a better word. Lancaster may have been able to enter the Kings presence in armour, but I doubt he'd be let in wearing a sword, and to draw any kind of weapon in front of the King was a crime know as lese majeste. A good way to get locked away or even executed.

[@noorgonzalez1076]

😳 🙇🏻‍♀️

[@ragingdevi]

I saw the lack of gambesons and thought the same 😂 The actor playing Galveston and his poor scalp, wearing mail and no cap to protect his hair 😬

[@comson68]

8:00 A group of nobles walk up to a king of England and threaten him with swords and then are able to go back to everyday lives with their heads still on their shoulders! That's treason! Back then many nobles lost their heads for far lesser crimes against kings. This Lancaster character must have one powerful figure to directly challenge a king. The fact that he was the grandson of King Henry the Third could have given him the boldness to carry out this act of defiance, knowing the King wouldn't dare to take measures against him without starting a civil war. I wonder what King Henry the Eighth would have done in this situation.

[@Si_Mondo]

Lancaster is correct. It's the office of King he's sworn to, not the occupier of said office. No treason here. Threatening/taking the life of the monarch wasn't amended into the Treason Act until Elizabeth I.

[@comson68]

@@Si_Mondo Not knowing the historical facts I can't say I agree or disagree with you on this. I 'll be glad to subject this to the expertise of a historian for a definite answer. However, I still find it incredible that, if what you say is true, one is immune from uttering threats against a monarch of England until the time of Elisabeth I!

[@Ronin4614]

Great content and convincing acting. Good to have the hot poker story put in it’s place, as it were. Thank you.

[@ericbrown1101]

Thankfully for Edward, that hot poker wasn't put anywhere lol

[@angetalks4331]

Documentary ruined by relentless ads!!

[@thejudge-kv2jk]

Download adblock. I've not seen an advert on KZbin for about 4 years.

[@desertdaisymarie6951]

Gorn Rkewl I pay for premium, no ads..

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

*Laughs in KZbin Red*

[@agemo82561]

@@desertdaisymarie6951Must be nice. I have no money

[@DS-us1vi]

@@agemo82561 download an adblocker and stop whinging

[@sese6227]

Enough about Eddie & his boy toy.... let's talk about what a badass Queen Isabella was! Sis was making moves left & right 👑 SheWolf is so fitting!

[@ClassicusHomo]

Edward was younger than Gaveston. So Edward was the boy toy.

[@edwardviofengland8048]

She was smart enough to know when to be agressive and when to surrender When her son Edward III overthrew her and executed Roger Mortimer, Isabella sweet talked her way into his good books and retired from public life. Edward III was essentially a reincarnation of his grandfather Edward I, and Isabella knew that this was a battle she would not win. Isabella lived long enough to enjoy the company of her grandchildren, so all in all she lived a pretty successful life

[@vanceriddle4191]

One rumor that Mortimer was Isabella’s lover and he calls him her lover 8 times but refuses to call Galveston Edwards lover. 😂

[@mamavswild]

Ikr? Who says that historians don’t have an agenda?

[@myrnaskogland1268]

I am am of the opinion that to get children Isabella needed a lover and a powerful ally. Her husband ignored her and never came to her bed, so what can a girl do? She-Wolf you bet, he messed with her babies, bad move. If I was her, I would kill him in the most humiliating and painful way, her revenge on a useless ruler and man who openly humiliated her with his lover.

[@billhicks6449]

Except he literally does. 12:07

[@jamiemohan2049]

@@myrnaskogland1268 he likely did sleep with. Just didn't go to her often. Edward thought Isabella was beautiful. Many gay man can and have fathered children with women.

[@ericbrown1101]

@@myrnaskogland1268 Edward fathered 4 children with Isabella, including his heir Edward III. Whose babies do you think Edward had abducted? By all accounts, despite a reportedly steamy affair, Isabella never had any children with Roger. Isabella fell for Roger for much the same reasons 25 year old women fall for men today. He was handsome, rich, and masculine...everything her husband wasn't. He was also just as ambitious as she was. They were a perfect match.

[@lindenmanmax]

When Guy de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, learned that Gaveston had nicknamed him "the black dog," he said, "If I am a dog, then he can beware my fangs." Nice job, Guy, anticipating almost word for word Shylock's line from Merchant of Venice by nearly 300 years.

[@joannagodfrey8146]

😮o9

[@timmiller1954]

I don't know why the presenter keep calling Edward and Gaveston "friends"? They were LOVERS!

[@parisite99]

Easy…leftist agenda.

[@boogiesmell5181]

@@parisite99 Lol, how? Leftists are suddenly anti-gay? 😄 You and your ridicculous pushing of politics everywhere 😁

[@mangot589]

I’m a bit surprised at the pic/ representation in this show of him. Apparently, he was tall, handsome, muscular, and had the golden red hair of a true Plantagenet. He was good at martial arts. He did have a slight cast in his eye, inherited from his father, apparently, but they said he was very good looking. At least, that’s what all contemporary accounts said. I guess they would know.🤷‍♀️

[@hildahilpert5018]

I read somewhere he liked digging ditches as a hobby, and hanging around with us common folk.

[@mangot589]

@@hildahilpert5018 He did! He liked thatching roofs, rowing, woodworking. Things we would call hobbies HORRIFIED the hoi polli lol

[@mariatorres5563]

For sure they were more than just friends... They were lovers

[@joannarock8196]

What they fail to mention in the documentary though is that Isabelle while abroad and away from England and her husband, goes to the court of Hainault to seek aid from Count William against her husband. He gives her an armada of ships to invade England in exchange for the marriage of her son to Phiippa, the Counts daughter. That's how she was able to do it. Crafty!

[@ezchoice28]

Technically Edward II abdicated under duress. I suppose that could be seen as an act of parliament, but it takes on a different symbolic meaning. The legitimacy of Mortimer's reign, if it had any at all, was based on the fact that succession followed with the King's consent to his rightful heir.

[@Oksana7305]

Who is to say it had no legitimacy?

[@overcomerbtboj]

@@Oksana7305 maybe because mortimer and isabella usurped the throne and took it by force?

[@ruthannemackinnon588]

Plantagenets were a bloody dynasty but at least they waged war like men. The Tudors just executed everyone in sight like evil psychopaths which makes them the bloodiest imo

[@anubratabit3027]

Wow ! These people could recreate that scene in 36:14 but couldn't do the same with Edward & Gaveston.

[@sirenofthesea7802]

I find it somewhat funny that Queen Isabella looks sorta like a Medieval version of Princess Leia from Star Wars. Go figure. ☺️

[@mangot589]

Rayena Carter She was a serious billy bad ass.

[@tudorrosey76]

I thought the same thing! 😂

[@3John-Bishop]

old film with a new title.

[@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398]

the designers for Star Wars used her for inspiration.

[@sirenofthesea7802]

@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 That's actually pretty cool. Stay safe out there. 🌟

[@timtravasos2742]

Superb analysis and narration.

[@elizabethhennessey6437]

Queen Isabella is the one who had the fling with William Wallace in Braveheart - total fabrication, but cool.

[@babyyoda0U812]

That was one of the best dramatization of history in my opinion.Well played William Wallace...well played 👍

[@Jackaljkljkl]

@Steve Meikle Also, it would have meant that Edward III was William Wallace's son, and thus illegitimate. As a result, John of Eltham would have "ruled" for nine years as a teenager as John II, and died without an heir.

[@ytusersumone]

I remember the whole movie's opening sequence begins with marking the wrong year 😁

[@davidmanhart1]

To Queen Isabella: Like Ivana Trump said.. "Don't get mad. Get everything!" Canoodling with a tart? male or female? The wives have a thing or two to say about THAT!

[@davidmanhart1]

I hope she did! When her husband was cheating on her. And openly. And in her face... Payback is a bitch.

[@kayleec780]

I love Isabella!!! Never underestimate an angry woman

[@stormbreaker1316]

Least of all an angry mother whose children are forcibly taken away from her by her husband's "best friend"!

[@edwardviofengland8048]

@@stormbreaker1316 Ironically her own son Edward III launched a coup against her and Mortimer. He had Mortimer executed and forced Isabella to hand over all the power. Edward III proved to be a far greater monarch and leader than Isabella, Mortimer and Edward II combined. The way he overthrew his father's murderers is a story worth listening to in its own right

[@raphfan9873]

So, when it comes to the nature of Edward's relationship with Piers, despite numerous evidence that shows they may have been lovers, this docu went with "best mates!!!" (which is fine I guess). But when it comes to how Edward was killed (which is also widely disputed), the docu went the version where his method of murder (hot poker in the ass) was supposed to have been indicative of his rumoured sexuality, a sexuality which the docu doesn't accept or address. Make it make sense.

[@hollyhilpert9417]

The story of Edward's II death is well known. This was one way to leave no mark on the exterior of his body.And B. because they believed he was gay, they were just giving him what they figured he was used to getting from Gaveston.

[@domeatown]

Sappho and her "friend"

[@phosallphosphor-us-death-e3966]

I'll suggest that it was a entire island of mutant snakes and reptiles devouring from the inside out. I just hope they don't get aids from fucking eatc

[@halfmoon106]

They might have been lovers, they might have been best friends, or sworn brothers. It was 700 years ago and no one knows for sure what happened behind closed doors. So we'll leave it at "maybe".

[@albertrogers2506]

It may be noted that Edward I had William Wallace hung, drawn, and quartered, which is pretty much the same as the elaborate public execution described here. The public gelding is an additional detail. I reckon that the Roman practice of crucifixion was not quite as harsh as burning at the stake, or cutting open the belly of a not-quite-dead victim.

[@Gorboduc]

Poor Edward got hot-pokered five times in the first two minutes. : (

[@sherriepectol9324]

Lol😂

[@anastasiaisabella7354]

😂😂😂

[@heliotropezzz333]

There's no actual historical evidence of how he died. It's supposition.

[@fatty8223]

@sneksnekitsasnek It can happen, if a burning iron poker is shoved far enough up your ass it can burn your organs. But at first I didn’t think this was how he actually died I was laughing my ass off when hearing about it LOL.

[@greyinglis7570]

It'd be okay if Galveston was doing the hot-poking.

[@googleuser4053]

Isabella is gorgeous in this documentary 😍😍😍

[@donaldmacauley4571]

Actress name is Adina Galupa

[@goodtoGoNow1956]

We do not know how he died or even if he died in 1327. There are strong stories he escaped to Ireland and then Italy and died in Italy many years later.

[@cathryncampbell8555]

Thank you for an engaging documentary, with most of the key points about King Edward II's reign highlighted. I have always thought it noteworthy that Edward's long-suffering wife, Queen Isabella, only turned on Edward when that daffy king proceeded to reward the Despencers with properties traditionally held by the Prince of Wales. Since Edward II apparently had no compunction about destroying his own son's inheritance, it is logical that Isabella believed that this decimation of her son's patrimony had to stop. As for Isabella's cruel execution of Hugh Despencer -- it was King Edward I who devised this grisly torture for William Wallace, as severe torture was deemed suitable for a traitor's death. Isabella had many reasons to consider the Despencers an even worse group of grifters than Galveston. So I question whether she merited the term of she-wolf....

[@actionjackson3522]

I still think she merited the term She-Wolf. Consider how many battle hardened kings and princes get nicknames for their prowess in battle (I.e., The Hammer of the Scots, The Black Prince) and she ranks up there with them.

[@beth7935]

@@actionjackson3522 I like that! It was NOT meant as a compliment, like the other nicknames were, but hey, let's MAKE it a compliment for a kick-ass woman standing up for her son's rights! She killed people/had people killed, but so did every single king & queen we admire, & I've always admired Isabella.

[@beth7935]

Thankyou, that covers exactly everything I wanted to say! When Edward III took power from his mother & Mortimer, he was a hero, but I think it was a very similar situation when Isabella took power- on Edward III's behalf- from Edward II & the Despensers, yet she was the devil incarnate. Because she was French as well as a woman, but she was acting as an English queen & the mother of the heir to the throne, not a former French princess.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

@Tony. O'Brien ...they both licensed the rights from DRG. Little Dot Studios has a few other "real" channels and their email is listed in both video descriptions if you want to email them. This was a channel 5 series though.

[@thomburns5068]

Just found out she is my 20th GG . Who knew? Thanks to COVID and the internet and the new pastime on ancestry, I am learning some history.

[@bcmc789]

Great video, I really enjoyed the 18 ads throughout

[@smoothbeak]

The algorithm can't detect sarcasm, it will give you 36 next time

[@bcmc789]

lol

[@citizen1163]

Excellent presenter who clear loves his job! Great post!

[@dazinqwilly3385]

Who’s the person that played isabella?

[@kweejibodali7009]

that hugh despenser actor is pretty a good likeness to the portraits

[@mortalclown3812]

Brilliant presentation. My interest in British/Scottish history began a hundred years later...until I found your channel. Now I'll find the books to read. Bravo. PS Ok...Mortimer:s roar was hot as hell. :-) ♡

[@livianegidius9772]

this is one of four part `s series Britain`s bloody crown !MASTEPIECE . I recommend watch all four parts.

[@howardwhite1507]

Did Edward have an IQ of 20 or so?

[@PrincessKarrah]

Exactly how the bleep can be that d$$$ dumb to think that after he put her through hell with first Gaveston then he allowed Despenser to take her kids away that there was anything he could possibly say that would smooth things over.

[@aghnifrid]

I wish there will be today a pay back time like in those medieval times. Edward suffered but he got his revenge, Isabella was devastated but she put her enemies in chains. We have tyrants today but they don't go down. All I can say is that those men,those people must have had a different DNA than ours. People rose to dethrone a king, we can't rise to send a tyrant to hell. I wish we were like the medieval people.

[@yvonneveitch6706]

This should be called England's bloodiest dynasty

[@froellig3970]

I like the American Hermit Thrush you can somehow hear in the Welsh countryside at 38:28. I guess someone phoned in the backing tracks.

[@spaghettiappletaterghost1009]

I think the words your looking for is “cuddle buddies” mate. Or “bromance”.

[@kathrynjordan8782]

Edward II sure didn't know who he wad dealing with at the end of his reign. Queen Isabella was a woman not to cross. She really was a "She Wolf"

[@marianap.h3961]

Edward and his "friend"

[@randyking3057]

@ 40:32 Her majesty knows how to eat a plum.

[@masterdeere]

Remember the scene where the father throw the son`s boyfriend through the window?

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

I remember it well. I often wondered what the people below thought about it all.

[@masterdeere]

@@tooyoungtobeold8756 "I guess ill wait another day to ask a favor to the king"

[@chibuzorokonkwo7039]

😂😂

[@lilacsunshine3044]

Scene from Braveheart The guy got too familiar with the aKing and h wasn't having any of that.

[@lilacsunshine3044]

@Joe Hinton It was Braveheart

[@maryannemelenka9250]

Great idea, documentaries on royal life. Many don’t like to read like I do, so these are great. Interesting, shocking and true. They say who cares about the past ? Well you can learn from the past, try not too name same mistakes, but it’s about what life was like centuries ago. We complain about things we don’t have, when a lot back then we’re creative and inventive. While today everything is on a screen. I love reading and docs, But like reading before I see documentaries.

[@rogerpropes7129]

At 16:00 is the point when 'Braveheart' has Edward I throw Gaveston out the window. Don't mistake Mel Gibson for history.

[@Orphen42O]

Edward I may not have regarded his son's relationship with Gaveston as homosexual, but he did know that Gaveston was a bad influence on his son. As a result, he banished Gaveston.

[@johnlewis3891]

Edward II was the worst king in English history. Being king of England was the luckiest job in Europe at the time. England was united unlike France, Germany, and Spain. Although the English nobility were powerful, they weren't semi-independant monarchs like the various sovereign dukes and counts of Germany and France. The English crown had direct control of their whole realm. Not only was Edward king of England and Wales, he was sovereign duke of Aquitaine, and count of Ponthieu, which he inherited from mother. Stupid Edward was willingly to give Ponthieu to his lover Gaveston. Cruel Edward was willing to persecute his own nieces to sate the greed of the Despensers. Foolish Edward lost his throne to benefit his favorites.

[@johnhawkins6506]

And he was an ancestor of mine...OMG!!

[@douglasbuck8986]

Lived near Castle Rising (and Framlingham Castle) ........ quite nice sites .........

[@smitz001]

I visited Warwick castle when my family lived in England.

[@norhayatihamzah5042]

I love the narrator british accent. His explaination is v clear. Making history not boring...

[@jazzaman147]

Love this series thank you

[@KittyKat-xg4tx]

WOW! 👏 what a great documentary!!!! I couldnt stop watching! The She Wolf didnt play when it came to her kids!

[@thejen75]

I always love watching, but dang.. wayyyyy too many commercials.

[@dichthuatanhquan117]

Her revenge, through the sexual betrayal, dethronement, and murder of her king spouse (Edward II of England), along with the execution of his favourites in the name of her son, was a thousand times as horrific as her own suffering, portraying her as a true cruel she-wolf. What is the general opinion about this queen consort among the French?