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[@thorium222]

Every time I see a picture of the Zuck I think: "Ah, that is where the lizard people conspiracy comes from ..."

[@CloudsGirl7]

I can imagine him passing by David Ike and Ike's just pointing at him and wailing in fright. 😆

[@diojiabunai]

I swear I saw him lick his eyeball once.

[@michelebaer]

He's actually just a very smart geeky guy, this is a great video where he's very engaging - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6jcqqt7f6h8q7c

[@jaysonpida5379]

@@diojiabunai funny

[@richcampus]

🤣🤣🤣

[@IsaacC20]

@5:39 "The more time you spend in the virtual world, the more you suck engaging in the real world." Absolutely true.

[@cdxx420able]

Meh

[@far2ez539]

Don't think so. I virtually live online and I'm great at socializing irl. A lot of people just suck at everything they do.

[@karenknauf3836]

No spit Sherlock 😅😊😂

[@jeanmacdonald6717]

@@far2ez539

[@jeanmacdonald6717]

@@far2ez539

[@seppyq3672]

My brother is a flight attendant, and he said flying into Hawaii or over the Grand Cayon, people don't open their windows anymore and are instead glued to their screens. That's one of the most depressing things I've ever heard.

[@aaronramen5926]

How long should it take to look at the sights outside your seat window? Plus last time I checked nobody wants to be blinded by the sun when they’ve been on a flight for hours..they probably just want to get the fuck off the plane after a likely very turbulent flight.

[@seppyq3672]

@@aaronramen5926 its called having a sense of wonder. People don't have that anymore.

[@aaronramen5926]

@@seppyq3672 I agree.

[@erwind1257]

@@seppyq3672 I flew over the Grand Canyon a month ago and the captain announced it. The guy next to me didn't budge, he was glued to a book about quantum mechanics. Does he lack a sense of wonder?

[@seppyq3672]

@@erwind1257 that's a bit different than watching avengers on your tablet

[@lavenderrose786]

Bill Maher glad you're back on Real Time. Love the no nonsense right to the point on every subject perspective brings fresh "air" into the minds of those people (me) who value truth, honesty, and integrity...and of course with Bills sense of wit totality in everything he talks about.. awesome.....

[@skylanestregis]

What would you do, Bill, if your audience didn't applaud every 10 seconds ? ?

[@maliksamarijones9304]

Trusting in Mark Zuckerberg to reimagine the world of reality is like trusting Pablo Escobar to reimagine the pharmaceutical industry.

[@timothyphoenix1081]

Or Pfizer....

[@eaubert1]

@@timothyphoenix1081 ..... Pfizer at least gives me boners. Pablo Escobar has never given me a boner!

[@bcbp14]

@@eaubert1 that's funny, thank you

[@anaibarangan4908]

Kinda doing that anyways, if know the truth about Pablo Escobar.

[@ABSD30062]

its wors then pablo

[@NewMessage]

"The most socially awkward person in history." So.. we've decided he's a person, then? Passed the Turing test, did he? 'Cause I'm still not convinced.

[@MegaMech]

Wat? Ol' zuck isn't even turing complete? Dang.

[@dabz6433]

I thought he was a lizardman

[@EricaShady10171972]

What is he then? Have you ever watch the Revenge of the Nerd?

[@noirrain6005]

I’m sorry guys. Zucko ended like this because he was my punch bag at school. Oh well.

[@grandunifier3169]

@@MegaMech If zuckers was a Mandelbrot set he'd have no zoom.

[@jonlieberman997]

This monologue is why I like Bill Maher. I don't necessarily like his views but I like the way he can dish it out to anybody.

[@oneholetime6974]

And that is what comedy and true tolerant political discourse is supposed to be about. Tolerating people's views

[@Jeremyramone]

Agreed, but I m really trying hard to think of issues I disagree with him about, Israel/Palestine comes to mind, but he s made some relevant points in that regard as well. Even his n word mistake was no where near Michael Richard s territory.

[@vladimirseven777]

Yeah, Bill Maher on how to be normal, real, get a job in corporation cubicle, wife, family and lot of children.

[@Jeremyramone]

@@vladimirseven777 he s not a victim of binary thinking such as yourself. No offense.

[@Jeremyramone]

You're quite wrong, he's well known to state how marriage doesn't work for individuals such as himself. Your credibility is on life support

[@zacksymes]

“Rise from the couch” love it. And I needed to hear that myself for other reasons :)

[@StaleyTraining]

Wow, every single word of this monologue was tightly crafted for maximum impact … honestly it’s a work of art if you appreciate that sort of thing.

[@ladyluck2607]

I agree - and no politics is refreshing!

[@somebodyelse766]

He's pretty good... You ain't gotta agree to appreciate wit...

[@TProJX]

Bill Maher: "Be a hero to women. Show yourself." Louis CK:

[@justinabel5990]

Lol 😆😂 u funny ....

[@kevinblackburn3198]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@swaggitypigfig8413]

Yikes 😂

[@willknowsright9615]

good one

[@SD-pi9co]

F@ck that. Be a hero to yourself. I don't exist to please women. Bill is full of shit sometimes.

[@scarpfish]

Personally, I think the first productive step any lonely person can take is realizing they don't need to win over members of the opposite sex for validation.

[@amirparsi4165]

If it’s for validation it ain’t healthy.

[@melaniekeeling7462]

Or even members of your own gender

[@d1p70]

Unfortunately, basic human biology disagrees.

[@j-me6317]

Only if that validation results in getting your noodle wet.

[@macsrule1]

Yeah, this was a very sexist segment... not impressed.

[@erwind1257]

"All of humanity's problems come from man's inability to quietly sit alone in a room." - Pascal

[@jaidee9570]

But he also said it was logical to hedge your bets and believe in god. Unfortunately he assumed there was only one god to choose from, his obviously.

[@RunBayou]

Women have told us to leave them alone. So we have.

[@cosmingurau]

*claps* well said.

[@marcleewinser8534]

And I'm doing just fine, thank You very much...

[@poocrafter2]

Ready Player One, at least the book version, did a good job of detailing what happens when a large overpowering tech company is allowed to run free of regulation.

[@SeyhawksNow]

The difference there is that a lot of what users would do and say in the OASIS is the kind of shit that would get you booted from Twitter for being "culturally insensitive" or whatever term they're using this week

[@studiodreamken]

Even the ending of the movie had Oasis closing twice a week so people can spend more time in the real world. IRL we only get this once in a while when facebook is down.

[@stargasior]

Meet a girl in the game and then get the girl after playing the game.

[@pistolen87]

I liked that movie, and I don't even play video games.

[@johnbd9765]

it did a job, nothing about the book was really "good"

[@darrelthomas8270]

Bill has the absolute best comedic delivery of any Late Night Host

[@kgs42]

Oh, yes .... he's an absolute expert in the skills of his job.

[@Trazerade]

This is sarcasm right? He literally has to pause and wait for the audience that's paid to laugh at jokes that aren't even mildly funny

[@darrelthomas8270]

@@Trazerade :(

[@Qqxx22]

Bill, I appreciate you sir. Always on the money, giving cold hard truths.

[@supershinigami1]

Bro, grow a spine and think a little.

[@Qqxx22]

@@supershinigami1 hope you have a better day sir. :)

[@amplifiedsilence9396]

Bill. Single. No kids. Telling people to not be single. 😂 that’s great 😂

[@polreamonn]

Came across as "You need to do this, I won't but you do".

[@JackHawkinswrites]

"Be a hero to women, show yourself ..." Didn't work out well for Louis CK

[@jimmym3352]

Harvey showed himself to all kinds of women. :D

[@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528]

Same with Harvey, I guess turning so many actresses with no talent into millionaires isn't considered heroic.

[@bl9531]

Lol he could have chosen his words more carefully

[@Illlium]

I'm showing myself all the time when I'm walking down a street, you think all women are blind grandpa?

[@DearDextra]

he showed too much is the problem.

[@goblue193]

I don’t disagree with any of these points, but we shouldn’t shame people for not getting laid or not having a girlfriend, especially when they’re genuinely trying and people give them shit for failing. That’s part of the reason these escapes happen in the first place.

[@Salem-yy5wn]

Agreed

[@cassusbr3672]

He his talking to adult males, who should be mature enough to take criticism, so it will be fine. Grow up.

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Oh, so we are defending INCELS now? They learned their antisocial behaviors via poor attempts at interpreting life. They're emboldened by other antisocial pricks via the internet and social media. Sorry. Sympathy for psychopaths is not a solution.

[@Unoriginalswine]

How do you know their trying? I'm 26 and have a friend who's a virgin. He's never attempted once to make an effort to talk to any girls or put himself out there. Some people find it easier to just not put in any effort and are afraid of rejection. That's the exact way you develop antisocial traits.

[@shanesawyer5103]

@@OneAdam12Adam So according to you, every straight guy without a girlfriend is a psychopath? Seems like a bit of a stretch.

[@Cyanide300]

Bill's off the mark on the dating thing. Have you seen the data from apps like Tinder, or PlentyOfFish, or pretty much any dating app? Women rate *80%* of men as below average looking, while men rate about 50% of women as below average looking. Think about that for a second. We've spent DECADES telling girls that they don't have to look like models, and the women on TV and in movies aren't realistic, but is anyone telling the girls that Chris Hemsworth isn't normal? No. Young women have RIDICULOUS expectations of men these days. They think anyone who's not a billionaire GQ model isn't worthy of a second thought. This society has spent 40 years telling girls how special they are no matter what they do, and now you have a generation of pathologically narcissistic young women who look at Instagram and tiktok every day and see the fairy tale lives portrayed there, and they think they can't possibly settle for anything less than that. THAT is the problem with modern dating. I know you don't want to believe it, but this one isn't the guy's fault.

[@lironmtnranch4765]

Preach, brother. This phenomenon has a name: Hypergamy.

[@zarakikon6352]

I've never used any such site but I agree with you anyway. Because it's true. A lot of (young) women are too materialistic. And will not even look at a guy if he's not a model or has a couple of millions in the bank.

[@Lolokbye]

I think dudes just don’t pick good pics for dating sites (no smiling, weird bathroom pics) but nice getting in a deranged misogynistic pity party argument for men while you’re at it lmao

[@kevinmorrissey9398]

Bill doesn't seem to get the obvious questioned posed here. If 3x as many men are not having sex as they were 10 years ago... What is the statistic for the change in women? Oh right, it hasn't changed at all. So women are simply more selective in who they have sex with due to a fundamental change in the dating market. Now they have unlimited options due to dating apps and higher standards. Why would women settle for less? They are simply sharing the top guys and regular guys are pushed out of the market entirely. Blaming men for being pushed out of the market due to these changes is entirely wrong, but as we know women can never be considered at fault for anything.

[@kevinmorrissey9398]

@@Lolokbye Samantha, with all due respect you are out of touch with the reality of the situation. Try starting a dating profile with professional photos of an average looking guy and let's see how many messages and responses you get.

[@tomjohnson7368]

"Who put the elf with no friends in charge of human connection?" - Elon Musk (as portrayed by Epic Lloyd)

[@CrusherX1000]

"You claim to be some sort of saint..BUT YOU AIN'T!"

[@JohnSmith-zy9ve]

Love ERB

[@sarge420]

I deleted FB & Messenger 3mos ago and will never reload. All my classmates after our 45th class reunion that I organized (since our 20th) believe I’m a radical leftist for caring about America. I only served 29yrs in the USAF. F THEM!

[@readmelancholystrumpetmaster]

genius

[@gwwayner]

I'm 71 and love the outdoors and nature. On a beautiful summer or winter day seeing a young person outdoors in the real world is as scarce as a sighting of bigfoot. IMHO all this Facebook Metaverse crap is mentally damaging.

[@robertbeste]

You don’t see an irony in posting that on KZbin?

[@forman208]

Ok boomer

[@gwwayner]

@@robertbeste Not really, cos it has lots of useful information but putting your life out on social media invites nastiness from maladjusted people. Information overload and a waste of time. So much clickbait and outright bullshit.

[@gwwayner]

@@forman208 Gee, so original!

[@HeavyMetal-jy4vj]

Same thing also any other race than white people.

[@matthewheather6911]

I fucking love Maher. Original liberal. I'm a republican and still enjoy this man he's hilarious. He also makes a lot of sense a lot of the time. Respect you !

[@Seshayn]

Listening to this while playing Lost Ark with my wife, who I met in a video game called Final Fantasy 14. We've been married over 2 years and are remarkably happy! Thanks video games!

[@ruirodtube]

Sorry Bill, I’m not getting relationship advice from a guy who was never married and doesn’t have children and didn’t have to go through a painful divorce. When I rise from my couch it’s to go on a bike ride in the real world, by myself!

[@robomop9711]

And a famous millionaire that has access to social circles and women that the average man doesn't.

[@Bamruff62]

I agree, Ruirdtube. I can, to some degree, understand Bill's point. But, I would find him more convincing if he wasn't a confirmed lifelong bachelor who has on a number of occasions poo-poo'd marriage, doesn't have kids, and claimed he doesn't like kids. There's something inconsistent with his background and this routine. Hey Bill, you won the lottery. You're sitting on a 100 Million bucks. The rest of us have to make do the best we can.

[@SomethingSomethingg]

@@robomop9711 Exactly!!! With his unattractive visage, In the real world he would probably be an incel. Instead all that money can buy him any p**** he wants so he doesn't understand the real struggle.

[@hrdman2luv]

Walk across the room and get hit with a sexual harassment lawsuit because asking a woman out is now inappropriate, according to the woman's attorney (10 years from now)

[@toneylowery1166]

So you "don't see the point of marriage" and "kids are awful" ...., but I'm a coward unless I go get a girlfriend. Let's go Bill!

[@codenameexoliby6020]

you can get me-too'd for going up to a girl these days. Id rather keep my games, build wealth, and stay out of trouble by staying away from women.

[@chatterbox11]

If you don't try to grope women or make sexual come-ons when you first "go up" to approach them, you will not end up in a "me too" situation. Try talking to women with the same respect you would like to be shown--- you know, treat women and other men like fellow human beings and be polite and show genuine interest, instead of coming across like you're angling for something. It is really, really, really, really simple to choose not to be an asshole, you just make that initial decision to be a decent person, and the rest sort of flows naturally.

[@jackphantom]

@@chatterbox11 That's not true. Sexual harassment is in the eye of the beholder. You can be incredibly reasonable, but if she's offended, you've broken the rules.

[@seanhepp8226]

Generalizing young men a little bit. There are active men that still cannot meet women. American adult life is very lonely. If you do not have social structure before entering your full time job phase of adulthood, your opportunities to meet interested/available partners are few and far between.

[@jackmeoff2376]

Not to mention, with Instagram and the myriad dating apps, women’s expectations have become quasi-delusional.

[@alicelaybourne1620]

He pointed out he was talking about the huge decline in sexual activity and the incel movement. Not discussing all males.

[@Flassh81]

While sex is great and all, I think making that the ultimate goal is what leads an incel or others to sex/rape as the goal. Socializing and treating women as individual people should be the goal. Understanding and dealing with rejection without resorting to violence would be great for society.

[@botchedoperations3485]

@@Flassh81 no, that’s is a friend zone. The main purpose of meeting someone of the opposite sex is to mate. Now to achieve that you do need to have a relationship with them. So I don’t know what do you mean. And how is rape a equivalent to sex for them to be in the same category (sex/rape).

[@Flassh81]

@@botchedoperations3485 friends zone carrying a negative connotation is itself a problem. The sex/rape is in regards to an incel thinking that Sex is the ultimate goal. I'm Not a good writer, but if the end goal is sex, they are more likely to do anything to get sex, even rape.

[@CH3NO2Semonious]

I got over human contact in 1978. I don't miss them and they don't miss me.

[@forman208]

I used to be very social in my teens and twenties. Now at 32 I find virtually everybody to be extremely boring, and am not at all ashamed to admit I find chilling at home and relaxing much more enjoyable than sitting around a dinner table listening to mostly uninteresting conversation.

[@Destinychanged]

One of the difficult things about the incel movement is that society tells us that not getting laid or not having a girlfriend is an insult. The feminist movement allowed women to say they don’t need a man to be happy or successful. Why can’t we teach men the same thing?

[@gertrudewest4535]

Agreed but while we women found ourselves happier and more at peace, these guys have become angry, misogynistic and in some cases , murderous.

[@saashamoniquew1]

Both are a bad idea, we all need someone, even if it is just one.

[@iamcynt]

Unfortunately there is a difference between men and women whether we acknowledge it or not.

[@MYwinters1945]

Men will learn to be alone and at peace eventually, there is no wall for men at 40

[@screech3859]

@@gertrudewest4535 LMFAO! Is that why women are more depressed than ever before? Because they learned to be happy without a man or a family? Only to realize that maybe they want someone at their death bed but too late for that because that ship has sailed? Good to know all of those studies that discovered women are more depressed than ever are all wrong because y'all don't need no man.

[@hank9366]

I know it's gotten bad when I find myself in sincere agreement with Bill Maher.

[@ArmedDem]

Every time I see Zuck all I can think about is Data from Star Trek: TNG.

[@elram2649]

... it's evil malfunctioning twin. 🤖

[@wilgo45]

You read my mind

[@sorinalexandroiu]

Data was socially awkward, yes, but he wanted to learn, to improve. Zuck wants all of us to be as awkward as he is. He's more like B4

[@nancystowell4877]

Not Data, he is much more human, Zuck is like Data's "Brother" Lore!

[@Willverinerage]

What did Lt Commander Data ever to to you? lol

[@danstrick3314]

Women rather share a guy with another woman than date an ordinary guy. Countless research by dating site apps show that 80% of women go after the top 20% of guys, social media raised women’s expectation of guys far higher than a basement dwelling computer nerd. Even after 30 women still “won’t settle down for less than she is worth” or she thinks she is worth. So in a way our screens played as much of a joke on women as it did on men.

[@iss6044]

Until that nerd invents FB?

[@svscared]

In my experience the biggest problem when it comes to women is that too many of them seem to have this unrealistic and unreasonable expectation that any guy they would even consider dating be completely well off, have their career and independence totally secured, and have everything going for them when in actuality they could be the missing link in a guy's life that helps him get to that point. Whatever happened to having ambitions, doing our best to realize our potential, and just making really solid effort for the woman? Now it feels like you have to be completely successful and can't have any visible cons or else they won't even give you a chance. And this honestly wasn't super great even before social media.

[@jasondouglas152]

I have no social media for 8 years now ( aside from KZbin) and life is so much better and relaxing

[@phoenix5054]

Same! I tried Reddit a few months ago but I got bored.

[@xXevilsmilesXx]

Same. Been dry since 2012.

[@ian12346]

Good for you bro! I ditched my Facebook in 2011. I have an Insta to post my lame music though. I’m not as good as you…. 😆🤘

[@ruthie_rosario]

@@xXevilsmilesXx same!

[@slmaul]

“…from your parents basement.” Bill, the parents are the ones still using Facebook. Get with it, man.

[@ChristopherCricketWallace]

he spends half of his time complaining about young people using media networks from his MEDIA NETWORK. I agree with most of his politics; but he's definitely turned into the the old guy yelling "get off my lawn" and blaming everything on the people younger and fatter than him. As if HE'S not part of the generation that created this scenario.

[@JonBlack413]

@@ChristopherCricketWallace Yet none of you can refute his argument and instead use the typical old man insults. Because you know he’s right.

[@causeeffect7624]

The social platform used doesn't matter. They follow one another because people buy in and they want our information/money. They are all shoving/ pulling us down a hole that will be difficult to escape once the door is locked or the cave is blocked. UncBill has always been mean ppl may be more sensitive to it now.

[@2126Eliza]

He’s so old

[@shep68]

To be fair tho, he admits his generation dropped the ball. He hopes future gens will be better.

[@louielouie22]

Bill, doesn't it mean the same for girls between 18-30? They can't take a compliment let alone a request for a date. Everything is creepy to them now.

[@Steve3Thumbs]

I am literally listening to this while playing Xbox, wearing cargo shorts and in a t-shirt. Thank goodness I shaved my beard or else I would have felt attacked LOL

[@SpacemanXC]

My excuse is I'm ugly. Women don't want to talk to me anyway, so I gave up trying. I'm pretty damn good at Battlefield games though.

[@Rockoblocko]

@@SpacemanXC clean yourself up and go to Asia, you’ll be fine.

[@SpacemanXC]

@@Rockoblocko WTF does that even mean? Im not a fucking slob. My face looks like I have downes. Doesn't mean I'm not clean. And why Asia? Is this some racist bs, or are you suggesting I get prostitutes? Because I've been knee deep in prostitutes and it's not exactly that fulfilling. Especially when you can see in every one of their eyes that you're their low point.

[@phoenixzappa7366]

I am playing League of Legends with my neckbeard covered in Cheetos.

[@joshfitz1055]

@@SpacemanXC lost eyes=good deals

[@jordangate7742]

That Travis Scott joke was killer hahaha

[@Sayitaintjake]

Not really, he already had a record breaking virtual concert

[@marklewen9384]

So Kylie Jenner has a baby with TRAVIS SCOTT,and her sister Courtney's last 2 men are TRAVIS (barker) and SCOTT(disick)? Seems a tad scripted,eh?

[@thedevilsplayhouse]

As was the concert 🤣

[@Utrechtborn]

@@marklewen9384 does your radio talk to you too?

[@marklewen9384]

@@Utrechtborn yes im crazy....and the Kardashians are famous for what reason? Its all that talent I guess....

[@SpatialDragon]

I agree with Bill on "virtually" everything he said in this episode.

[@fwdcnorac8574]

I don't know. Like how different is this to the 70's when millions of people stayed home and watched TV every night? I'm ol;d enough to remember when friends and family let a televisions show time dictate if they could hang out or not. Like it was a hardcore commitment too with all of them. "Nope. General Hospital is on at 10 am. Can we schedule the root canal after lunch?"

[@ian12346]

Like I remember that too. It was more about the sharing of a show together. Like, everyone would talk about it because you all had to, like, watch it at the same time. It was like fun. Like, I mean… 😆

[@soulscanner66]

It was the same for magazines and radio before this. The thing is, the interactive nature of this media even more addictive.

[@wiskasIO]

That TV wasn't directly connected to your brain, that's Zucks Endgame.

[@chatterbox11]

I am also old enough to remember the pre-mobile phone (people still used pagers or old car phones!), pre-social media, pre-streaming days. While we certainly had the "boob tube," (and videos and early computer games) the amount of time most people spent watching live television or videos was FAR less than the number of hours PER day many people now spend online. For one thing, you generally did not carry a tv with you everywhere you went, but now we all have our mobile computer in our pocket. Yes, in the past you might have had your favorite couple of shows that you scheduled things around, but you typically did not spend hour-upon-hour each day watching tv. Moreover, you were generally forced to have in-person conversations, or at the very least SPEAK to people on the phone at least a few times a day. Unless you were elderly or infirmed, it was unusual (and generally viewed as sad and unhealthy) for a person to go for days without going out and engaging in some sort of face-to-face interaction.

[@DonnaBrooks]

@@chatterbox11 And people still CARED about the elderly & infirm. People would take them places, would make food for them, would send them cards & letters. I was just lamenting the last couple of days how I will send carefully crafted emails to someone expressing some concern & asking for their response, only to get a single sentence reply that ignored most of my message. I am SO done with that. The last 2 people that did that to me got a curt reply back. Not rude, just short. Less than 10 words in a single sentence giving them no further emotional energy. I can be just as short & withholding of information as they can be and I don't want to waste my energy trying to make plans with someone if they don't put any effort into addressing my concerns. When I wrote to someone else saying I was SOOO tired of this, I said, "It's these freakin' smart phones & text messages, & social media that has done this to us." So Bill's message is timely, as far as I'm concerned.

[@MrWallace484]

Times are hard, divorces suck, if your back home In the basement it’s okay. Just saying

[@lolodee3528]

Females think the same exact way.

[@mosesking2923]

Well, if you lost your house in a divorce, are forced to pay alimony checks to her, and now live in a basement while your ex-wife has moved on scott free with a new man.....than obviously things are not “okay”

[@MrWallace484]

@@mosesking2923 why your now a free man to restart and have all time to find some new strange it happens a lot

[@ndveitch]

Look like I can stay on the couch then cause nearly every time I have attempted to grow a spine and talk to ladies I end up getting used, abused and thrown to the curb. I understand what Bill is trying to say, but at 42 almost 43, people saying to me... Dont worry, hang in there, the right one is just around the corner... There is only so many time you can hear that before you know it is not true.

[@kjhuang]

Yup, this. Bill is operating under the delusion that if you get out there! and talk to women, they'll treat you with decency.

[@anglobostonian]

@@kjhuang he's 60 and has never been married. He knows it's all garbage. He's just being contrarian right now.

[@kjhuang]

@@anglobostonian No he's not even talking about being married or in a relationship. He's talking about going out, meeting women and having sex with them. Unless a man is really hot or really rich that's near impossible. Believe me, I've tried and *I know* .

[@forman208]

People just refuse to concede that a lot of guys simply do not have the looks or social skills needed to make friends and attract women. Who am I to judge them if they give up after a lifetime of rejection and failure? Let alone someone like Bill Maher who due to his status could get laid with ease.

[@anglobostonian]

@@forman208 this is exactly the problem. Particularly in many cases some people on the Autism Spectrum (whom Bill Maher would say don't exist). Some people genuinely need help with social skills, but many are incapable of accepting that some have to be taught those as if they were an academic subject.

[@Jephael]

As an aspiring voice actor / story writer, I love just about any work of fiction, be it novels about a school for kids with magic powers, a sitcom about six yuppies just jerking around a coffee shop in New York City or a comic book about four genetically altered reptiles who know martial arts! The important thing is to be mindful that at the end of the day they're not real. They're just wild fantasies people came up with and it's okay to take interest in those make-believe stories, so long as you make time for the real world. It's all about balance, people. Too much of anything is unhealthy!

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

I read something awhile ago that defines this new generation: “They exchange authenticity for attention” - what Bill says is so true. No longer a need to “be real.”

[@veryanonymous3630]

Can't help feeling that it seems rather arbitrary. I have a different theory: Some people suck but their choice of entertainment generally has nothing to do with it. Speaking personally I do enjoy many of the things Bill complains about here (although I find this whole VR thing to be something of a gimmick) the only problem is that I don't conform to any of the stereotypes that he spouts in order to feel better about himself. Sorry Bill but on this one, I think the way it'll end up is that you'll be the dinosaur, the old man grumbling because he fails to understand that you can enjoy both. It's not that I completely disagree with him but a lot of this rant feels pretty dated to me.

[@defenestrator9119]

@@veryanonymous3630 I think it says more about Bill than anything that he views most of society's problems as stemming from men not getting laid enough. There were no socially awkward people before the internet, as we all know...

[@Illlium]

@@defenestrator9119 Of course it's men's fault, women have no agency, duh

[@veryanonymous3630]

@@ShukriJallad-tf7yk Not if you rewrite what he was saying.

[@edmessina8392]

@@veryanonymous3630 naw, bill is just wise (old) enough to see the results.

[@Misses-Hippy]

My life was totally isolated before the internet. Now I exchange ideas with people from around the world. It is great!

[@gertrudewest4535]

People don’t exchange ideas - they seek out others for confirmation bias which makes this toxic. In the real world, one did have to listen to different ideas because that’s all there was in elbow to elbow socialization

[@kencowan3438]

A conversation online isn't like the real thing. Often when people are together they do other than just talk. Sometimes just sitting together in silence enjoying the view or the taste of a meal can bring contentment and a sense of communion.

[@melanistar]

I think the question here is, why were you isolated before? The internet is not a substitute for real life and real human connection. I feel sorry for you. Please unplug and go outside and meet real people.

[@FreeAssange_]

You thought so but it is not

[@atlas108]

I concur. The problem is how it's used, not the internet itself.

[@shadfletcher6815]

I dont agree with Maher on much of anything,but his description of Mark Zuckerberg is spot on,and he is proof of how much someone can achieve if they don't have a soul or a personality

[@number51oco]

I love watching this on cable or online, no going outside, no girls to try to talk to.

[@dcal6365]

Bill makes great points, but to be fair I'm in my forties and my whole life I've worked with a ton of people, young and old, who have zero social/people skills. Not sure the digital world is really making it much worse. It always starts with the parents in my view.

[@Illlium]

Personally I'm of the opinion that over half of autism is created by parents. I'd throw a percentage, but I don't know what part of people on the spectrum are disabled in some way (like intellectually, in seeing or hearing).

[@mikitz]

Regardless of one's upbringing or genetic makeup, it's everyone's own responsibility to learn social skills and if they choose to opt out, they can shut the hell up about not getting laid (as a guy with Asperger's, I should know). Of course it's easy to sink into the digital world when you are a young introvert, but that basically turns into a trap over time.

[@kantraxoikol6914]

good thought there. i thought the internet would change the world, until people with fake names swarmed on there insulting people safely and without consequences. it made our world worse not better, and that's really sad...it had such potential to unite us all

[@Illlium]

@@kantraxoikol6914 If you can't handle some mean words the Internet is definitely not for you, it's for adults.

[@sleepyx732]

@@Illlium lol wow.. you're funny. 'Adults'

[@alainarchambault2331]

Sorry, had nothing but bad experiences with women. I'm safe being alone. I'm voluntarily celibate.

[@brucegelman5582]

"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." William Shakespear.

[@ian12346]

@@brucegelman5582 Try it

[@alainarchambault2331]

@@brucegelman5582 Leaves the deepest bloody scars. I'm sixty anyways and the majority of women at my age starts to look like Ernest Borgnine.

[@Mt-ue9qz]

@@alainarchambault2331 that was revealing.

[@stephaniefain1863]

I never put my coat on without my husband holding it for me. I never opened a door. I never lit my cigarette. My cars were gifts. I never pumped my own gas. I never unloaded groceries alone. I never paid for a night out. If my sneakers became scuffed, he just brought home a new pair. Spoiled? Controlled? No. I was uncomfortable with being treated like I was incapable, weak, needy. We had a talk, early in our relationship. He explained. He felt inferior, in some ways, and super blessed that I wanted him. He had no problem honoring me, and felt honored to do so. I went to college, owned businesses with him as my partner, had children. I found it was amazingly easy to baby him, serve his meals, take care of his clothes, share the housework. I had TIME to take care of him, because he had TIME to take care of me. Compliments weren’t sexist, they were genuine. I could not imagine putting him down in public, and never thought he might say a mean thing about me to someone else. He has been dead many years now, and I am still so blessed to have been a part of his life. Folks need to quit being so insecure about WHAT they are, and worry a bit more about WHO they are.

[@mosesking2923]

You are assuming that emotional relationships are a priority or even a necessity. For men, women are a waste of time and resources. There is very little to be gained. A loss of money, loss of time, and a waste of energy...for what? A shallow wife who will divorce us for the slightest infraction and take half our house. Nope. Not worth it. Glad you are different than most women today.

[@stephaniefain1863]

@@mosesking2923 that’s a sad view of humans, and an even sadder view of men.

[@caryrevels6584]

He is turning into RED PILL BILL Bless his heart.....

[@SD-pi9co]

Sounds like the opposite to me.

[@caryrevels6584]

@@SD-pi9co Of course it does.. The left folks see and hear what they want. Reality is blocked out.

[@stanleysharkey3753]

@@caryrevels6584 You mean like literally every animal on earth?

[@caryrevels6584]

@@stanleysharkey3753 Sorry you lost me there sports fan?

[@trax72]

"parent's basement" 1. OK boomer 2. What do you expect in this housing market?

[@vrASMR180]

Demonizing males for the options low quality women have given them is not really getting the message across.

[@mosesking2923]

Then get yourself a gym membership, work yourself into a high paying job, and EARN better women in your life. Stop complaining like a whimp. Get real or get lost.

[@vrASMR180]

@@mosesking2923 Bro I'm already happily married. But I know my situation isn't the norm. Did the bachelor life for awhile, was in great shape, and money was never a problem. Women were of such low quality I completely understood why men were walking away, some even retreating to the digital world. That's not to say high quality men are in abundance either. Society has produced some depressing results in both men and women. Just pointing out Maher here is being disingenuous by painting a picture of pathetic males in basements that simply need to put on a suite and shave, then walk outside and find women are just there waiting. Women haven't just stayed the same since whenever (70s? 80s?). If men have been found to be going the way of the incel then women have moved in a direction as well, we just don't have that conversation.

[@gutz1981]

As a guy who has been ghosted 4 times this past month after dates or planning to go on one, maybe men are not the ones who need to be told to step up more. Maybe women need to start taking some responsibility. Or at the very least, stop bitching about how men are not interested in meeting them and blah blah. Like the climate change issue. If only one party is concerned and told to do their part, than nothing will get fixed.

[@natashka1982]

I can see why you got ghosted 4 times. Obviously you are the issue. Lol

[@ian12346]

Oof, that’s rough dude, but it reminds of this saying; “If you run into five assholes in one day, maybe YOUR’RE being the asshole?” Did you try and ask one of these 4 women (that all did the same thing after your first date) why she’s not interested? I’m sure it can be difficult to ask, but maybe you have a certain thing you do that is a turn off? I dunno man. You should have gotten laid by at least ONE of those broads lol. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@paulberry3316]

Over time I have disagreed with Bill Maher and over more time I have realised I have slipped into being like most a victim of human herd mentality and then appreciated Bill’s unique ability to remain a datum line of genuine clear cut human truth without fear of its content to possibly offend both left and right leaning views.

[@affinityforanime]

And then there's men like me who don't feel the need to have sex to validate ourselves. I'm not a virgin. I've dated tons of women. And I can say from experience that playing a good video game is better than the best sex I've ever had. I'm not incel. I'm voluntarily celibate because I've discovered there's more to life than sex.

[@elijahmikaelson8027]

It's not about individual cases like you, it's about general population trend

[@Woeisme2]

Sigma male

[@fy5213]

I love hearing tv personalities tell people to “rise from the couch”…

[@hunteralbers1449]

Yeh they set this whole system up, now someone else is taking the reigns and the money, they don't like it.

[@weehudyy]

To be fair , unlike most ( ahem ) ' personalities ' , Bill does go out and do stand up and that is a HARD gig ... Ninety minutes onstage by yourself ... Of all the ways to die in public that is one of the more difficult .

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

The guy on my phone keeps telling me to put down my phone lol.

[@nerdstark9002]

The whole point of vr is to "rise from the couch."

[@WeartheGoodSocks]

His show is only an hour per week. These gamers are lost in vr all day every day.

[@j-me6317]

Idk Bill. It’s hard to tell which is the cart and which is the horse when it comes to the state of modern men. Is the gaming the cause of “incels”, or the result of neglect from modern women?

[@checksandbalances6714]

Thank you Bill! - this trend in young men is really hurting our country in so many ways - take it from someone with 2 daughters in graduate school and seeing how few young men “rise from the couch” to be eligible - fewer boys are seeking advanced degrees or careers not to mention many have no social skills or confidence

[@MyN0N4M3]

But you need to see it from our perspective. We live in an age where $50 a month for vid games give you a better experience than having to spend literally all your money and time with/on a girl. Doesnt this say as much about us guys as it says about the girls we're supposed to love? We're not loving them though arent we? Sure we are attracted to their body. But there is nothing you can talk to the typical girl that interests many of us young men. We dont find their hobbies interesting, we dont like their political ideas, we dont like their taste in entertainment, we dont like their parents or friends or jobs (and neither do they like any of the things we do/think/say btw) In my entire life I only found one girl that I enjoyed talking to. And she was already married with 19 and has now 1 child with 22. Okay, these girls are all gone. What's left are the ones that (like us guys) couldn't find any partner. We're just not fitting well together. And unlike in previous generations where in many cases you literally died on the cold open street if you didnt stick together with a partner to make it through the incredible hard times, there is no such big pressure that could get us (and keep us) together. Add to that the entire dimension of modern "equality" which I have been taught literally my entire life and we add additional factor to this situation. We guys are now equally as lazy as the girls always were, when it comes to finding a partner. We put literally no effort into it. It's not working sure, but the moment you add in the factor that we dont like the average girl in the first place, you realize that we dont care really about the fact that dating them is not working. I think our society should really ask itself if it is really guys that are the sole problem here? Isn't the idea that we (guys) are a problem the reason why we "retreated" to playing vid games in the first place? Wasn't it that we were so sick and tired of being lectured how we guys have to put in all the effort and "be a hero for women" when the same people turn around and lecture us about "equality"? That we were constantly told to do all the things girls like to do (starts in school already with reading certain books, dancing, singing, writing poems etc etc and ends with social training sessions in our jobs), while the girls literally seem to be able to do whatever the hell they want to do and get full support from everyone? You can even play vid games all day long as a girl and the media and everyonewill come out and talk about how brave you are for playing vid games as a girl and what a bright future you have. I mean dear lord, this is what drives us guys nuts, this incredible double standard that we're constantly held to. And that's exactly why we retreat. We refuse to being judged by people we deem unworthy of judging us. And also ,why would I literally risk everything that I have and additionally go through YEARS of trial and error, with dates and excercises and awkward conversation and rejection or even potential sexual harrassment accusations, just to have a 50:50 chance of getting a divorce and paying her bills for the rest of my life? I might be lazy but I am definitely not stupid or insane. And before you tell me "you dont have to marry her". Then what is the point of any of it in the first place? I want either a family or nothing at all. I have settled for nothing and so far I am not disappointed.

[@noneofyourbusiness910]

Well, if you want to help solve the boy crisis, then maybe we as a society need to stop pretending it’s 1952 and that the biggest problem facing our country is that we don’t have enough females on the boards of Fortune 500 companies. And the second step would be to eliminate affirmative action for women.

[@SomethingSomethingg]

I'd rather spend my money traveling the world and slaying random chicks in hostels than blow my money in a relationship.

[@vipertact]

Facebook is a social tool for keeping in touch, at least it used to be. Tinder is a tool for dating, etc etc. But Meta isn't a tool it's a replacement for reality, which isn't good. Instead of meeting up with friends and talking through the good-old medium of sounds, speaking in Meta will go though some server effectively creating a giant surveillance machine.

[@edgarcayce2.02]

I notice that when people meet up with their friends these days, they don't even talk to each other. They all sit around and stare at their phones. I'm old, so I find the whole thing pretty surreal. And l think it's sad. Really sad that nobody even knows how to talk to each other anymore. Heck, nobody even seems remotely interested. And by the way, facebook is _already_ a giant surveillance machine. (Happy that I've never been on that douchebag's "platform").

[@rascallyrabbit8548]

@@edgarcayce2.02 I'm with ya here. Even when people go outside now they have their phones out recording everything and especially special events instead of experiencing the event they record it to presumably watch later

[@Faherd]

@@edgarcayce2.02 This should be a transitory problem, though. 5 or 6 years ago, Google debuted Google Glasses, which were like a phone that you can see through all the time, eliminating the staring at the phone problem. But people using them were rejected or kicked out by bars everywhere, and they had to scrap it. AR technology should eventually come back though. In the meantime, we are stuck with a problem similar to carrying around those old brick-sized mobile phones.

[@jmwoods190]

Actually FB's true purpose is to be a massive cyber black hole for mining its users data & privacy, and keep them addicted to it. Zuckerberg's business M.O. is either a sociopathic or psychopathic one, no question.

[@edgarcayce2.02]

@@jmwoods190 Surveillance, mining...call it what you will, but you're absolutely right. If corporations are people (Citizens United, an Orwellian name if I ever heard one) then they're a real sociopathic bunch, there's no doubt about that.

[@michelebaer]

Do you see the irony that you are talking to a worldwide audience digitally right now? I've never met you or seen you in person (the "real" world) and probably never will. But the magic of digital video brings you to me each week. The Metaverse is just a 3D extension of the digital world we ALL live in right now.

[@rainbomg]

Ehhh, this is a live show with a studio audience. It has a set time limit, then it turns off. There’s only one a week. Compare that to the hours spent mindlessly staring into a light box, your average gamer, your average fb user is spending too many hours effectively checking out from the world, being absolutely useless to their family, their future, etc. I think it’s intellectually dishonest to say the meta verse is an extension of a world where people actually move around and get in the sun and develop immunities and most importantly, interact with their own community. A geographical community is a vital part of our existence, people need to connect irl to begin having a say in what’s happening around them, instead of just being shocked and appalled and finding somewhere “better” to live. People wasting their lives away on Facebook is what got us Donald Trump. It’s what keeps people in their little bubbles, where they are never forced to learn something new, never stuck in a room with someone they disagree with, never given any perspective on life at all. You just galvanize and become overly sensitive and ironically intolerant of those different from you. Not to mention the extreme level of misinformation on the site, I imagine that’s going to be a lot worse with VR.

[@michelebaer]

@@rainbomg Not at all, I highly prefer to talk to a 3D image sitting next to me instead of a flat-screen when I chat with my sister who lives 1000 miles away. 3D is an enhanced experience. As to spending hours online, that's like saying we should do away with the chocolate cake because people eat too much cake and get fat. It's up to us to balance our lives.

[@rainbomg]

@@michelebaer if we left maintaining a healthy balance up to the average citizen we’d have no laws. It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be allowed to see your sister, if you want, when you talk to her, and I can see why that interests you. I wonder, though, with it being an avatar, would it need to be very similar looking to her in real life for you get the same benefit? Like if her avatar was a moose, would you still enjoy that more than seeing the real her on FaceTime? What I’m saying in my previous comment is that there is a good cause for concern, even from someone seeking themselves in a 2D format, to give the world something they’ve already lost themselves in, only with more withdrawal from reality and this is heightened when you’re trusting the reigns for this obviously addictive product to the likes of Facebook, a company that notoriously abuses and manipulates the power they wield to increase monetary profit, not to “connect people.” They experiment on users, they brag about the ability gained from said experiments to turn a dial and impact the moods/emotions of an entire group of people, geographical or demographical, usually with greatest efficacy and bigger payoff towards negative emotions. There are serious and global implications for something that was intentionally inserted into the daily lives of literally billions of people getting access to even more data on the humans they exploit for profit every day as it is, tracking and following and selling access to us as if it were theirs in the the first place. As if they have a _right_ to know what people are thinking, to hijack what people want to see, and to sell that open access to the highest bidder. The argument that any one person that has the self control to be smart and responsible with any given product make that fine for everyone is myopic at best, as we can see through a million different studies how little control most people have over themselves, how easily that control can be bypassed through subliminal and cerebral cues and trickery, and how outright sloppy with it this company has _always_ been- and that those examples weren’t mistakes, they are the standard operating procedures for this incredibly unqualified ruler who continues to lead astray the largest population in the world. I maybe get on social media once a month, but there are entire countries who equate Facebook with the internet itself. Thinking your restraint should permit fb’s lack of restraint is the kind of thinking that will get us all in trouble when … will I was gonna say the world is on fire, but heyo it already is so, ya know. Maybe we could come together as a people and put some fires out for a little while before sending little sucky zuch off with a blowtorch, eh? I do empathize with your distance from your sister, and while I trust you not to destroy us all, I don’t trust the rest of the planet. Or that company. This has apparently been my dissertation on how the weakness of man will always overpower the strength of man if strong men do nothing. 🤓

[@michelebaer]

@@rainbomg Love your thoughtful response. I agree with all the cautions you outline very well indeed. But the part you're missing is basic personal responsibility as opposed to legislating good behavior (which is impossible). Cars are great for humans and kill many humans every minute, the Internet revolutionized all our lives and it's destroyed some as well. You get the idea. We cannot halt technological progress, nor should we even try. We need to work to evolve with it, educating those who fall prey to the bad characters in this world. Blockchain, Web 3, Metaverse innovation is here and will offer wonderful enhancements to our lives. There will always be corruption and bad characters in every space and we need to put our energy to stop them as well but not halt the progress because of them. As far as my convo with my sister ... if she wants to talk to me as her avatar, that's her choice and I welcome her in any form, I think it would be fun actually and because it was her choice it would accurately represent her.

[@rainbomg]

@@michelebaer I appreciate yours as well and while I mostly agree, we see things like this completely corrupt entire countries, fb has been responsible for a mass genocide that simply wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t pushed their product onto that population. How can we stop something that’s already so out of control? Nearly half the country believes the election was stolen and no amount of reality will change their minds. People are dying, from Covid conspiracies to flat earthers to lies about blm and that Q garbage, these things are leading to real deaths every day. Mostly I’m just not comfortable with this company having this continuous freedom and ability to do over and over again what they have countlessly proven they’d do, corrupt people for profit, enrage people for clicks, and fail to act when something is obviously false and damaging. Maybe if any other company did this it’d be fine, or maybe if like driving we required a permit and a license, but the overall point I’m making is that personal responsibility has nothing on mass hysteria. Because Michele, the problem isn’t you and me, the problem is the 30 million people in this country that don’t believe reality bc of what they read on fb, who try and overthrow governments and kill ppl in the streets bc they are already so detached from reality. I mean, honestly even if google did it it’d be better than fb. ITS BC THEY EVIL, MICHELE I’m gonna email my sister tho. 🧡

[@derrickbrossard1966]

Bill the perpetual Bachelor telling men to get into relationships & lose half their shit.

[@forman208]

He literally never said get married, don't put words in his mouth

[@derrickbrossard1966]

@@forman208 where did I write marriage. Use women for sex ? Okay

[@onsenguy]

No one said anything about marriage.

[@SomethingSomethingg]

@@forman208 He doesn't seem to ever be in relationships either. The closest thing I think that he even has is his flirt mace with Ann Coulter

[@SomethingSomethingg]

Bill doesn't understand that with his unattractive features and funny yet imperious attitude if he didn't have millions of dollars he would probably be in video game land too

[@TheGeeJ]

Boomer vibes here. Surprised he didn't blame Marlyn Manson and video games.

[@left-handedstan4506]

Is this super cringey to anyone else?

[@BeefJerky_FromNewJersey]

Yeah, he’s really not bringing anything to these editorials anymore. Every week it’s just blah blah young people are lazy gross and weird

[@johns3491]

Sorry Bill, I already tried talking to women. Many look for men as a source of entertainment; they don't want a man to take care of them, or help pay the bills, or raise a family (they can afford to do that themselves). I guess I'll just take the hundreds of thousands I save in divorce settlements, child support, engagement rings, etc. and invest in virtual reality :-).

[@bjkarana]

I dunno man, after seeing my grandparents look after each other in their elderly years while sharing a deep, unspoken, pride in all they had created during their years together made an impression on me as a young man as something worthwhile to pursue in life, even with the risks.

[@Musiclover-uo2oi]

I guess you need to up your game. Jordan Peterson talks about this in great detail.

[@johns3491]

@@bjkarana It was a different time back in the 1930s/40s/50s man. The woman was expected to maintain the home and the man was the breadwinner. It used to be that couples got together to team up, survive life together, be faithful to each other, raise some kids. Nowadays it's about "me", and not spending one's youth on relationships but instead supporting yourself, going to college, getting ahead in the world, traveling, search for entertainment, etc. Depending on others is considered "weak". Also divorce laws disproportionately weigh in favor of the woman, which is archaic given all the facts I just mentioned. I'm sure there are some folks out there that have the same mentality as your grandparents, but they are far and few between these days.

[@bjkarana]

​@@johns3491 People still get married to bear the tragedy and suffering of life, together, it's just that they don't realize that when they first fall in love. I've been married 13 years and have one child so far. My wife and I both work, and she makes more money than I do. Her ability to earn a high income didn't change who she is, it only amplified who she already was. Money does that to everyone. Women aren't hypergamous robots, and a good sign of a quality woman in today's world is one who is self-motivated, working towards future goals, and NOT looking for a handout, because if she has her life in decent order, that's about the best you can expect out of a marriage partner, male or female. And maybe it does end in divorce; people are complicated things, but if you and your spouse are people of character, you'll find a way to navigate even that level of catastrophe in a rational manner. You're not as weak (marriage-wise) as you assume.

[@johns3491]

@@bjkarana Like I said, it's not as common for couples to get together for those reasons anymore, but that's great you found someone who still holds those traditional values. I'm not saying it's impossible to find someone like that, just harder and not as common as it used to be. These days, single ladies get by just fine substituting a man for a dog/cat if they want affection or experience the light version of raising a life.

[@lars5711]

I may not agree politically all the time...but damn you make me laugh...stay real

[@dutchpy1]

It (still) is a free country......LOL

[@josettedaejung6309]

Thank you for being a sane person. This nation has become so hateful and polarized. Isn't it refreshing to disagree with someone and like them as well?

[@josettedaejung6309]

@@dutchpy1 But we saw on January 6th how fragile that freedom is. And look at Texas. Yikes.

[@justinmiller1118]

It's healthy that you say you don't agree politically all the time and I don't know if you are liberal or conservative.

[@justaguy2365]

I don't care who you vote for or what you believe. I care about how to treat other people. Good day!!

[@dancepiglover]

Reminds me of an episode of “Futurama” where Fry has a relationship with a robot who looks like Lucy Lu instead of dating an actual woman. He was given the same warning as here, that if everyone started “dating” robots, people would no longer procreate and it would be the end of humans.

[@jeffreyepstein6302]

That's the future you're looking at whether you like it or not since "real women" only want a small minority of men

[@nocivolive]

Only religious people and very poor countries that have their population die sooner then world average or need the labor to survive and take care of elders are having kids in sufficient number to sustain the society so you can see what values will win in the end.

[@jackphantom]

Isn't fixing this problem fixing the fact that no woman of the time would go out with someone making so little money as a courier?

[@shanesawyer5103]

The end of humans doesn’t sound terrible to me 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jordansmith9947]

And that's.... bad?

[@streetgato9697]

Shy guy came out of his shell and finally tried dating again and girl told him she only dates men 6 feet and above lol!

[@wilgo45]

Now there's the reality in the matter. Perfect example GATO

[@jordanangle9666]

Again females are not held accountable

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

Go find disabled girls

[@RedtheCat2014]

@Talebird K but it's obviously ok to generalize all men.

[@S.J.L]

Women universally tend to prefer taller men and you would too if you were a woman. Hypergamy isn't a social construct it's a biological one. Men tend not to want taller women either. You can take it up with the Chief but then how would you do it. People have to operate in the physical world as well as the spiritual.

[@NavySeal2k]

Big words, the guy not interested in marriage telling people they should change their stance on relationships...

[@KingRandor82]

Bingo

[@SparkTheGenius]

I turned 49 yesterday. It looks weird to even type that. I wonder where I could still go to talk to women. I should have married any of my girlfriends in my 20s or 30s. Now, scrolling Facebook seems like my best hope for social interaction. But I’ll try going out tonight for a belated birthday celebration. Maybe I can find a woman to bring back to my parents’ basement? Wish me luck!

[@prtauvers]

I still remember the Star Trek TNG episode where Murdock got addicted to the Holodeck. I swear, if they ever make a Holodeck, no one would ever come out.

[@ranndino]

That's exactly what this Metaverse made me think of and I said the same thing at the time. Hollodeck would be the end of civilization.

[@Rabbithole8]

Hey nerd, it's Barclay. ;)

[@PooperScooperTrooper]

hahah "Murdock"

[@ian12346]

Murdock?…. Must be from “Piccard” or some shit 😆

[@Rabbithole8]

@@ian12346 I pity the fool that watched "Picard."

[@lab4389]

Emotional intelligence is extremely important in having fulfilling relationships, and you’re not going to learn that in a meta universe.

[@mosesking2923]

You are assuming that emotional relationships are a priority or even a necessity. For men, women are a waste of time and resources. There is very little to be gained. A loss of money, loss of time, and a waste of energy...for what? A shallow wife who will divorce us for the slightest infraction and take half our house. Nope. Not worth it.

[@jasonnarayan7759]

There’s a bit of arrogance in your comment. Honestly, women have consistently treated me like dirt, no matter how nice I was. I was never abusive. Yet, I was abused. Quit thinking the problem is solely with men, and look in the mirror

[@kracker675]

@@jasonnarayan7759 The original comment never said that the problem is solely with men. Both men and women's emotional intelligence are negatively effected by consuming/using social media.

[@kracker675]

@@mosesking2923 And you are assuming all relationships end in divorce and the loss of your house.

[@markladenheim5352]

@@mosesking2923 Emotional relationships are a vital, indispensable component of living a healthy, well adjusted, fulfilling life. It doesn't have to have anything to do with women. It has as much relevance in your relationships with your male friends, your family and people you work with. Without it..well you see what's going on in the world. sex

[@MrJasonmunoz]

Can we get rid of the “ parents basement” talk? It’s so dated. It’s so hack. Computers and phones are not relegated to some imaginary basement.

[@laartwork]

Yeah he was doing an old stereotype.

[@jasonbrown372]

We all retrofit the garage now, anyway.

[@tednicklas3538]

Attic?

[@jimmym3352]

I live in the desert, we don't have basements. :)

[@Illlium]

Living in an overpriced studio apartment is so much more dignified, get a job and a loan you lazy bums!

[@johnames1987]

There are incels, with no game, and then there are MGTOW, who refuse to partake in the game. The heat you will recieve over this for encouraging men to 'harass' women should show why so many have just stopped engaging with it. Get a dog, make a career with sucess and purpose. If someone fits into your life at some point, all the better. But why force drama, expense, risk and distraction into your life?

[@SomethingSomethingg]

The irony here is that Bill Maher is a mgtow That's what I don't understand. He has always been against marriage and against children and has never been known for being romantically involved or a Casanova of sorts so it seems hypocritical coming from him This is something I'd expect from someone holier than thou like Tucker Carlson or something

[@RB-il7jx]

Even as a conservative, love Bill’s take on things.

[@ninjanick84]

That is because he is becoming more conservative...

[@Jude1017]

@@ninjanick84 you might be right - or maybe he’s simply staying put while things get more progressive?

[@kracker675]

@@Jude1017You're right. His politics are the same, its that the left is getting more "progressive" although myself and Bill would say it's becoming regressive.

[@patreekotime4578]

@@Jude1017 nah, Bill has always been annoyingly conservative in his pendantry and trolling humor. And his boomer ranting isnt aging well.

[@totallyaccuratebotansimula9493]

hes a progressive centrist. Drive on the centre lane so u don't turnover.

[@LemurWhoSpoke]

I'm *not* part of the incel community, but I am autistic, and I found the end of this bit offensive. Speaking from experience, a lot of people with ASD get discriminated against at work far worse than women, and we struggle to keep our jobs because we can't navigate the social drama neurotypicals love to create. We struggle with small talk and other basic social situations, not because we lack practice, but because of who we are. Bill, I share your dislike for social media. Although I play a few small phone games, I spend most of my time watching science videos, reading, writing, and playing with my roommate's dog. I'm not very social because "going out and asking girls out" doesn't present a "risk" of rejection, it's guaranteed rejection. It usually only takes a woman 5 to 10 seconds to realize that I'm "a bit off," and I immediately get shot down or friends zoned. If I'm honest on dating app profiles about my condition, I get one match every few months, and from those, it takes over a year to meet just one woman in person. (Most never reply.) And I live in a major metropolitan area. I'm not looking for pity, but it would be nice if people like me could stop being the butt of jokes or if feminists would stop saying that autistic men belong in a concentration camp (because we make them feel uncomfortable). Maybe then a lot of guys like me wouldn't choose to counter the hate we see by joining bitter, resentful communities that are easily rounded up by social media algorithms and then co-opted by political interests. In the future, it might help to distinguish between losers who grew up expecting a silver spoon and spent all their time drinking and doing drugs from guys like me, who try hard but struggle to stay afloat solely because HR sees us as the problem.

[@KingRandor82]

As a fellow Autistic (and I do a blog about all this), understand that Bill Maher has to spew whatever his corporate AT&T overlords tell him to, and most of his audience both blindly follows societally accepted norms, and usually doesn't understand the world of "red-pill" (look into Rollo Tomassi, Richard Cooper, Better Bachelor, and Strong Successful Male), so he panders to that. I wouldn't let it get too much under your skin, good sir. Also from my experience, most "accepted" socializing has minimal depth, anyway; they're conditioned to be turned off by anyone who doesn't strictly abide by social flow. So...if Bill Maher wants to blow hot air, don't let it getcha down :)

[@LemurWhoSpoke]

@@KingRandor82 I'm more concerned about it fueling anti-autistic sentiments among his viewers. I'm not deeply hurt by what he said. I just felt that someone needed to speak up about it. Society is already too divided into bubbles. We don't need to push more people away with our rhetoric.

[@charleediaven6278]

Bill Maher goes old school and acts like people he detested when young. He says, " Get a haircut and get a job! " WTF?

[@ricaard]

He's becoming more conservative with each day. He'll be Limbaugh in five years.

[@dieselemt1531]

Been saying that more and more hes sounding more “get off my lawn” these days

[@jimmym3352]

I agree he's getting old and stodgy. But what's so bad about getting a haircut and a job. I don't understand why young men have no pride these days. Pride in yourself and your accomplishments. People seem to be proud to accomplish nothing. Age has nothing to do with it.

[@Slipatoek1]

He's becoming preachy as old Carlin was. And u hated that last phase of him. Sadly, seems like it's inevitable and hell become that.

[@dongillette]

He's been saying the same shit for 40 years but when he was young he was preaching to peers and they loved it. Now he's old and if there's one thing a young person doesn't want, it's to be preached to by someone who's got a little age on them.

[@user-ju6zx3rm8d]

notice how all the guys in the pics being brave, are Chads. "just be Chad, bro"

[@BaldwinVoice]

“Be a hero to women” The problem, Bill, is that if you come across as strong and assertive to a woman, you get labeled with “toxic masculinity”

[@jZamora87]

Not really, maybe to people that only matter on twitter

[@CommanderCronus]

Mario Cuomo thought he was a hero to women. Didn't work out so well.

[@CallsignVega]

You only get labeled with "toxic masculinity" if you don't look like Bratt Pitt. If you look like Bradd Pitt, everything is on the table for women.

[@robdee4051]

Thank you Bill, I don't always agree with you, but you are spot-on!!!

[@markgiles313]

One of my favorite rants ever. Thank you Bill. You're exactly right.

[@dgd947a15fl]

I never get used to the way Bill cues his audience to laugh at things that they otherwise weren't laughing at until they were told to laugh.

[@Zanbu16]

@@Powercise1 the rant definitely curves a little more around the bend than it should. However, his initial statement of the impact of living behind a screen and the increase in sexless men does make sense. I think lingering on the toxicity that builds up in men and men alone was a bit narrow minded. Men and women who live behind a screen and rely on social media for their social connection become toxic in either their masculinity or femininity, respectively. This discourages connection between the two in real life and fosters bad habits and damaging thought patterns which lead to colder communications with the opposite gender. Bill should have left it at "social media kills real world communication" but I guess this rant on sex felt like the bigger selling point...it was weird.

[@susans654]

Seems more often he has to tell the audience not to clap or cheer about something that's not a good thing.

[@theDuctapeUnion]

They're called "Maher's Morons" for a reason.

[@sanafarooq9828]

I hate his audience. He should get rid of them. We'll laugh for him

[@billgreen576]

If 90% of women are only interested in 10% of men the odds are never in you favour. A really bad and ill thought out monologue Bill.

[@keijoolavi2796]

That's a pretty big "if".

[@dionbridger5944]

@@keijoolavi2796 It's pretty well bourne out by the data if you look at tinder reply rates and such. Most men are beta-male in nature. That is to say, conflict averse, law abiding, try to get along with people, but not special in any way. And testosterone has been dropping on top of that. In a world of female sexual freedom, athletic, good looking or rich alphas elope and betas cope.

[@billgreen576]

@@keijoolavi2796 I don't mean what they settle for but what they want which is one of the many reasons they cannot be happy.

[@lld752]

Geezus. Is this what it is like now? Get off the internet and get out in the real world meeting people. The internet has ruined human relationships.

[@jackphantom]

@@lld752 Yup. The data from okCupid and elsewhere is staggering. 90% of men are considered unattractive by women - and the men are responding by dropping out. In between data like that and female comedians and talking heads talking about male interest like it's the Mormons god-bothering you on steroids, there's no wonder more and more men are noping out. Happily married, but not sure I'd wander back into the dating pool again if something ever happened to her.

[@wezzyb8]

Counterpoint: maybe those 30% of men who aren't getting laid *did* already try asking girls out and got rejected. Like how do you know they didn't?

[@adamdrouin2295]

Well maybe if these kind of people socialized more instead of isolating themselves in a virtual world they would gain the skills and confidence to be more successful. This is happening and it is a major problem

[@2126Eliza]

Or maybe they just aren’t interested? People seem to be less sexual in general these days, it’s not a requirement for everyone

[@CommanderCronus]

It's fake news. You don't hear women complaining about how hard it is to find a man to have sex with, do you?

[@jacobquinn12]

Exactly. I agree that they're a percentage of men who don't try at all and retreat into their video games, phones, etc. But what about the men who try and get rejected? Social ability and confidence are helpful with women but they're not a guarantee of success. You can still fail and be able to hold a conversation with a woman.

[@xpsxps1339]

Like, how do you know they did...?

[@dennisray2821]

I'm gaining newfound respect for you Bill. You are seeing the light

[@gryphon9507]

An awkward kid in London, what Bill would call an Incel, got up the courage to walked up to a girl. But he was awkward and didn't know how to speak to girls. She got a 250 quid fine out of him and he did 200 hours of community service because she got scared. This is not the seventies or the eighties anymore or even the nineties, there's shame in the game, and lot's of risk for men; legal, financial, reputational, emotional, and physically, in going up to random women and trying to get to know them if you have no game, are awkward, overweight or not that attractive. Talking to women is not and shouldn't have to be an act of Heroism. AS IF IT IS LIKE FIGHTING DRAGONS. What an Incel needs is the camaraderie, support, and friendship of other men, not more shame and mockery. They get that enough from women they try and meet.

[@forman208]

Link?

[@2126Eliza]

Yeah don’t believe

[@gryphon9507]

@@forman208 Look up Jamie Griffiths, from Cheshire. Daily Mail article 2019.

[@gugy68]

While I love working from home, one of the things I do miss about going to a place to work is the human interaction. Luckily, I spent a lot of time outdoors, exercise and see people. But there are a lot of folks and young generation, unfortunately, that won't leave their homes. Interaction is a key for success. Meet people, talk and spend less time looking at screens. Now, I am out of here. LMAO.

[@minymoe9475]

True. That is why most of my co workers went back to the office twice a week. That works out just fine. Nothing takes the place of interacting face to face with others in the real world.

[@normaforsyth7950]

This is the only reason I still have a crap job. It is SO painful physically, as my body breaks down more and more, and leaving my house to go to that job is a loathsome feeling every single time, but I suspect that with no regular interaction with family already and losing those few hours a day with other humans, I might go insane. And I like being alone more than most.

[@bjkarana]

Been full remote for 7 years. I just answer my front door in my bathrobe, slightly ajar, for social interaction.

[@normaforsyth7950]

@@bjkarana what do you do for your job? I was looking into it bc I used to be a legal transcriptionist (transcriber). For a while it was fading in popularity and now it's back again, just a bit different. There has to be other remote jobs though, and I'd like to at least try it out. Maybe do it part time.

[@norezenable]

Every time I leave my house I feel like it costs me $50.

[@trevorshannon475]

Why is he criticizing others for not having "game". We all know he gets his women for cash.

[@svscared]

"Game" is an outdated concept anyway. No way that every guy who has a gf or wife has displayed "game", especially people like Mark Z.

[@tailgunner2]

And weed, cash AND weed!

[@TeddyKrimsony]

"game" just means the skill to manipulate and trick girls into sleeping with you and it's one of the most toxic things in our culture.

[@tailgunner2]

@@TeddyKrimsony Sad part is, just walking up and saying hello does not have a sterling track record either. If it did, there would be no need for "game".

[@Skoora]

@@TeddyKrimsony “game” is manipulation and toxic. What a bunch of horse shit. Yeah, because the heavy makeup, push up bra, ass pads and spanks are a women’s authentic self? Manipulation and toxic is drugging someone’s drink or luring them to being alone with a lie. Not having confidence and a sense off humor. Are you saying if a man makes a woman laugh or feel attraction to him that she has no power to resist and is a weak and pathetic person who doesn’t know her own mind? Ok. I’ll remember that the next time I flirt a little that I’m actually guilty of attempted rape right at the start.

[@moresnacksplease526]

Mr. Never-Married says what? Taking relationship advice from Bill is like taking medical advice from Joe Rogan.

[@snosister]

and "man" advice from Josh Hawley...

[@themaskedman221]

That's classic ad hominem. Just becausew he's never been married doesn't mean he hasn't acquired any insight into relationships in all his years. You don't exactly need to be married to know what it's like to be married.

[@moresnacksplease526]

@@themaskedman221 I can drive a car, but I couldn't win the Indy 500. That takes an amount of work and dedication to cars that I frankly don't understand, but if I say "Drive real fast!" I'm technically correct, so therefore I must be a race-car driver. I could also tell you how to raise your kid, and think I know what I'm talking about. It's called Dunning-Krueger.

[@socorrorios8075]

Yes, engage: volunteer at a hospital or nursing home, tutor, play catch with fatherless children, etcetera.

[@kellerblair2952]

Have you seen modern women Bill it’s like talking to a pit viper

[@igriesert8561]

I am not for the metaverse but I don't understand why the peak accomplishment of a human being is getting laid.

[@susans654]

It is if you are involuntarily celibate.

[@mofomartianp]

Because if people don't get laid they aren't reproducing, and so civilization dies. It's a biological requirement for the survival of the species.

[@jackphantom]

Or why if sex is so amazingly awesome of an endeavor they have to try and shame and nag people into doing it.

[@igriesert8561]

@@mofomartianp I guess from where I am standing there are already too many humans anyway. And our race is quite over rated and pointless.

[@angryarchitect]

RIIIIGHT "Take a risk go talk to a girl" AND GET SUED FOR SEXUAL HARRASSMENT

[@susanwoehler-hamilton8806]

What is it you would say or behave toward to a girl that would warrant such a result?

[@xpsxps1339]

Yes, right. Watch your appearance, voice, language, manners, and conditions/circumstances, man, and I can make you sure nobody will sue you for any type of harassment.

[@jackphantom]

@@susanwoehler-hamilton8806 It's a function of looks and money. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqnYhp6PnsaImZo

[@bigwinboard]

Bill makes so much sense in a modern society that no longer makes sense.

[@mindexpandingknowledge409]

Maybe in some deep seated subconscious level we've given up on this ugly world.

[@forman208]

In all seriousness, this world does suck. I have no issue with those who want nothing to do with it. I honestly don't anymore either.

[@brianvance1178]

“Metaverse” to me brings up images of the Persona 5 games, and makes me wonder if virtual reality is just going to be an excuse for everyone to act out their sickest and most depraved fantasies simply because they aren’t breaking any laws in the process

[@jagatheeldest5786]

It almost certainly will be. Also Persona rules...

[@brianvance1178]

@@jagatheeldest5786 any chance there’d be real life phantom thieves in Zuckerturd’s “Metaverse”? I kind of feel like we need some right fucking now as is

[@jagatheeldest5786]

@@brianvance1178 I think if you broke into Marks Palace, you'd find he has no heart to steal.

[@brianvance1178]

@@jagatheeldest5786 I kind of expect him to be Yaldabaoth, but less interesting, in the “Metaverse”, that or the Demiurge from P5S but still less interesting

[@karmmark888]

Ha Your joking! Online is policed (read censored) more than the real world.

[@monos70]

He forgot that women are the same way towards men.

[@jackphantom]

That doesn't count. Women loudly proclaiming "men ain't s--t" for 50 years has never been seen as a problem. It's only when men go "well fair enough, I'm out" that it becomes a federal case.

[@gretsch5]

I like Bill's comment of "Talk to a girl" to bad that every time you try, it equates to harassment of some degree...Women need to understand that they have much more going for them than a nice pair of legs!!

[@kevinmorrissey9398]

Just be highly attractive, then it's no problem

[@SebAnders]

Maybe you just suck at talking to people?

[@DonEnzone]

Do what Bill does. Just walk up to some chick and ask: how much?