Rebel Intelligence were terrified the Empire would build 1000s of these ships

[@UrbanImposter]

While Papy Palpatine, may have a great understanding of the dark side, his lack of understanding of economics or physics is disturbing.

[@deadzone4155]

Master of one, but dumbass of others

[@thieupham493]

Darth Trump understands none of these things yet his grasp of the dark side was so strong he was able to convince half of the Republic to make him President and that people were catching pets and eating them. Jedi can do a simple mind trick on the weak, but it takes a true Darth Sith to be able to do it over the holonet and trick so many people. Economics and physics are only limitations for the weak and poor, true wealth comes from convincing people you don't really need their money.

[@jazermano]

A: I find your lack of physics... disturbing, chancellor. P: Have I ever told you about how unlimited space-wizard power go brrr? (My brain is more cooked than Vader's shins, have fun with this)

[@tortenschachtel9498]

Physics is a pathway to many abilities force users consider to be ... unnatural.

[@thieupham493]

@@jazermano Palpatine is now back in power with a new Dark MAGA Acolyte. He has an amazing understanding of tariffs and taxation.

[@LordBloodraven]

In X-Wing: Isard's Revenge, Prince Admiral Krennel created the fiction that he was building his own Death Star, but a fraction of the size and with multiple superlasers covering the space station in an arrangement similar to the Remote that was used when training younglings and padawans at deflecting blaster fire with their lightsabers. There was no space station, but the risk lured Rogue Squadron into a trap to be eliminated.

[@roguerifter9724]

It wasn't actually a plan by him though. (Spoilers ahead) At the time he was being aided by a clone of Ysanne Isard who didn't know she was a clone. The original Ysanne Isard had the plans planted in his territory as part of her plan to get Rogue Squadron to help her eliminate her clone.

[@RunningWithRoses]

The rogue squadron books were so good

[@Myportie]

The Pulsar Station.

[@justcallmeskye]

The Onager, in both function and appearance, is literally a space ballista. It's a gorgeous ship and I wish so badly that it could be used more. Maybe in a game or something where a part of the plot is hunting down an Onager before it can destroy a base or something? Idk, I just wanna see this thing used!

[@thekaxmax]

The 'onager' is a type of rock-throwing catapult. So the Onager is an onager.

[@justcallmeskye]

@@thekaxmax ☝🤓

[@Pouk3D]

It's in tabletop Star Wars: Armada.

[@Wastelandman7000]

True, but, the Roman version was twisted ropes made of hair to give tension to the throwing arm. When the throwing arm slammed into the cross brace stop it the entire catapult rocked violently. That's why they named it onager which I believe means "wild ass" in Latin (as in donkey but butt)

[@PrinceofPwnage]

I get PTSD from hearing Onager from playing Age of Empires 2

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

Day 2 of requesting that Generation Tech analyse, which is the most practical and comfortable chair in the Jedi Council Chambers.

[@AdmiralStoicRum]

Day 1 of asking you not to start this here's Day number of I want this thing gimme gimme gimme.

[@Phillisophical]

@@AdmiralStoicRumlet the dude dream. His chances are already hilariously low. And even if it gets noticed, there is no way Allen would do this. There is no honest to Christ personal benefit or historical significance to the lore for him to do it.

[@AdmiralStoicRum]

@@Phillisophical This is what happens when you don't actually read the person's paragraph and you stop at day two

[@7stupidguys]

@@Phillisophical maybe for April fools

[@cadechidester8386]

@@Phillisophicaloh how the turn tables

[@justincameron9661]

With the growing dolphin threat we need Allen as supreme chancellor

[@SomeDudeOnYouTube_1]

I love democracy, I love The Republic,

[@TedTheHobbyist]

I say the senate give Emergency Powers to the Supreme Chancellor

[@jtjames79]

​@@TedTheHobbyist Meesa do war crimes!

[@kyoshiro13]

I give thunderous applause for such a great suggestion

[@worldtraveler930]

It would be worse than giving Boramir the One Ring!!! 😖

[@BonnieYTwithafish]

Hu that’s interesting. I never noticed the ever so slight shimmer of the shield on Alderaan when it was hit by the Death Star

[@jamoecw]

There was an artifact with the special effects originally so when people noticed they said it was shields as there is also a slight delay in the explosion from what it should be from the math. Lucas ran with it when he cleaned up the special effects latter on with the re-releases.

[@thieupham493]

@@jamoecw I think it's because they have a fractional refresh rate on their shields which is what allowed those space laser particles to penetrate the shields and destroy the planet. Everyone knows that "lasers" don't combine into a singular beam like that.

[@johnpk5831]

The Onager class reminds me on the Midway class carrier from the Wing Commander Prophecy game. If I recall correctly, that game also had the carrier put a giant crystal in the center opening to destroy enemies.

[@cd5sircoupe]

I don't think I've ever played Prophecy but I grew up on WC 1-2 and then a bit of WC3, the one with Mark Hamill in it. Maybe that was called Armada?

[@NHDude]

The TCS Midway was in Wing Commander Prophecy, the alien crystal was salvaged from the Ship Killer and could only safely be used once as twice would cause a terminal overload.

[@ocadioan]

5:06 I refuse to believe that the relatively small explosion seen in Rogue One resulted in what the later comic book showed. Seriously, unless the explosion somehow kept expanding for weeks afterwards, the explosion shown in the movie is nowhere close to being able to destroy that much of a planet.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

Ya that seemed a lot larger than what you'd think.

[@free2befree]

Disney sucks.

[@Hartzilla2007]

The comic mentioned it hit a kyber deposit that cause a chain reaction.

[@JediSentinal]

Yeah, what is seen in the movie looks like continent ruining, not capable of removal of a quarter of a planet. Remember we see it from orbit and it's akin to the relative size of a human eye on their head or something like that.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

turbolasters and blasters are hurt by the atmosphere but so are mass driver rounds. the biggest thing is the kind of energy they’re bringing that’s in play: kinetic energy. even being in the atmosphere they have acceleration behind them that compensates for the atmosphere, being kinetic they aren’t affected by space as gravity doesn’t come into play nor does heat and light refraction. in the real world it’s why sabot rounds in tanks are the norm over high-explosive rounds as you’re firing a dart with a vast amount of energy behind it into a small target causing damage behind it killing everyone inside. it’s also why M30A1 artillery rounds are so horrific to men and machinery: thousands of holes in a split second destroying the equipment and killing you

[@thieupham493]

LMFAO, ok genius, take a mass driver round and fire it at a planet and see how much the atmosphere will actually slow it down compared with it's initial speed and any it picks up from the gravity of that planet and then explain how much energy that big block of durasteel is slowed down by the atmosphere. The force of gravity will accelerate an object way more than the minute amount of speed lost to atmospheric friction. If you launch an asteroid at a planet, the people underneath are already dead before the rock ever hits. Ask a scientist about atmospheric compression and all of that weird science stuff that's not really relevant to Star Wars like a human with such fast reflexes he's able to time his hyper space jump through shields with a fractional refresh rate and then immediately shuts off the engine to slow down the flying saucer before it slams into the planet. I heard the average human's reaction time is like .2 seconds and I have no idea how fast light speed in Star Wars is, but I assume it's actually way faster than the speed of light. I wonder how far a ship would travel at light speed in those .2 seconds.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@thieupham493 lots of words, still complete BS from you

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

The irony of taking a dig at Mustache Man's cronies for their superweapon concepts in one breath, then pointing out how if this class of destroyer were deployed against the Rebels it could have made a huge difference. The Messerschmitt 262 and Horton Bomber were definitely in the latter category. Granted, only the 262 actually got any flight time at all. On a smaller scale, the Sturmgewehr was revolutionary as the first true practical assault rifle. Those armaments didn't make it because of purely top-down decisions by said Mustache. He didn't like the StG and thought the jet program was frivolous compared to proven fighters and bombers. Were it not for his weird dislike for those particular items and some terrible strategic decisions, odds are good we'd be in some Phillip K. Dick territory.

[@anonymoususer3561]

StG?

[@thikifo395]

Job a get

[@NomicFin]

Same with the latest model U-boats (Type 19, IIRC), which was probably the only Third Reich superweapon that genuinely was everything it was hyped out to be. Had it come out earlier in the war it would have revolutionized submarine warfare and completely shifted to power dynamic of the battle of the Atlantic, due to being able to move faster under water than Allied destroyers could on surface, allowing it to attack even heavily defended convoys with impunity. Basically every post-WW2 submarine until the development of nuclear submarines was directly based on prototypes captured by the Allies. Unfortunately for the Nazis, the project suffered repeated delays and the first examples came into service just as the war ended (as in they were literally sent to their first mission, only for their crews to be told the war was over and they should surrender before having a chance to fire a single shot).

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

@@thikifo395 Being a dumba**, talking like Yoda does not avoid.

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

@@NomicFin Fair point. Though the sea battle was always going to be a problem even with superior submarines. The Kriegsmarine was just nothing against the Royal Navy. Even so, put enough fear into those convoys and you choke the logistics. Force multiplier for the Nazis and denial for the Allies, which is a big piece of the whole picture. Many more things would have probably needed to go their way for a victory but it sure wouldn't have hurt.

[@daniels7907]

The Dark Side of the Force represents destruction and self-destruction. Peace is anathema to it, and so the Empire was not designed to ever attain peace. Tarkin, who wasn't even Force-sensitive, managed to cause a great disturbance in the Force that Obi-Wan felt from a long distance away and while in hyperspace. Palpatine, driven by the imperatives of the Dark Side, favored mass-destruction, especially if it caused great fear, which also fueled the Dark Side. So the Death Stars were not particularly logical, but they were very much in line with terrorizing the galaxy. Rational military thinking took a back seat to the demands of the Dark Side.

[@thieupham493]

You know, not every person serving in the Imperial Military was of the dark side, many of those morons left and became rebels. Most of those guys were just from poor farm planets and wanted to get paid while seeing the galaxy. They probably had no idea their leader was a servant of the Dark Side just like MAGA has no clue that Darth Trump is anything except a standup guy who wants to save their jobs and souls. It's like how Italians are always reminding me that some of them didn't like Mussolini but just went along with his crazy idea because it was a paycheck. I'm sure they all felt they had a legitimate reason to attack. I'm sure those Imperial scientists thought they were just developing a really efficient laser for mining purposes and it's not their fault someone turned it into a weapon.

[@earnestbrown6524]

Legends had the Torpedo Sphere. It would enter orbit, scan the shield and then fire 500 proton torpedoes. This would disrupted the shield so they could fire on the shield generators. It would take hours to scan, locate the generators and then calibrate the torpedo launch just open a window a few meters width and lasting microseconds to fire turbolasers through.

[@free2befree]

Things like this make me hate Disney even more. So many amazing stories were thrown aside 😢

[@thieupham493]

That's so slow and stupid, one rebellion pilot could have just flown through the shields manually and then shut off the hyperdrive and immediately slow down before the ship pierced the planet's core and then destroyed the shields with a couple of proton grenades.

[@AmelityshTV]

Allen, you're looking really good today. Also, WOOOO ONAGER

[@vexile1239]

Looks like he was able to avoid the stealthed dolphin hit squads for a while

[@AmelityshTV]

@@vexile1239 He will be victorious

[@tk-6967]

2:16 It helps that the Republic isn't really a democracy, it is a federation. The senators in the Republic can theoretically get their power through all sorts of methods and represent all kinds of governments. Just because many planets in the galaxy had some form of limited democracy doesn't mean the Republic was a democracy since it didn't actually do anything to protect that democracy. The Empire simply centralised the federation's authority and gave power to the military and executive branches, the former not existing and the latter basically being ceremonial in the Republic.

[@FirstPassOfficial]

Great take on the Onager! Reminds me of my own video from a few years back on it. Good work as always Generation Tech!

[@pup5535]

A new video I can’t wait

[@WrenPhoenix]

Another banger video, Allen!

[@mjk9388]

I've never seen this ship before and its even more insane to me that the Empire built the Death Star. I know they wanted to instill fear, but having a ship with that capability would completely negate any need for a Death Star.

[@GeneGear]

Palps was first and foremost a politician, and a commander/economist maybe. He was also just busy with discovering the secrets of the Force/Immortality, and only ever needed the Empire to function long enough for him to acquire those secrets and gather up the military force needed to make sure no one could come after him. The more I look into it, the more Cannon Palpatine seems to have never intended the Empire to last in the first place.

[@Melkimund]

Great video! I like you putting real life comparisons to the SW craziness! Have you made a video about the arquitens-class light cruiser? If not I think that would be an interesting subject!

[@Batbird74]

great video, I learned a lot! PS, you have a perfect voice for this work!

[@durantes]

I’d suggest a video listing all the ways Palpy screwed up being an emperor But you’d never have a day off again…

[@thieupham493]

I'd like to see one comparing Palpatine to Trump and see who was actually the better dictator.

[@xxDARTHPAPIxx]

Loved this video! You mentioned the Victory-class Star Destroyer! Where was the Onager featured? I want to see or read about it. TY

[@isaackim7675]

“This battle station is the dominant power in the universe!” Unicron, “Allow me to introduce myself.”

[@Psub950]

Please make a video on 200 FO Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers

[@georgepapatheofilou6118]

Great analysis but the most important part for me GT is what did they eat . Food for thought for one of your future productions. Till the next one lad.

[@AdmiralStoicRum]

The Ahsoka book puts some interesting thought is they used an engineered plant that leeches soil of all nutrition and concentrates i, when harvested and prepared it makes a very flavorless and nutrient dense ration that stores easily and for a very long time.

[@thieupham493]

@@AdmiralStoicRum That's just absolute ludicrously stupid and inefficient as they can have nutrients grown in a vat using fusion generators to produce artificial sunlight. Many algae grows perfectly well under these conditions and then amino acids can be extracted and sequenced into any protein they wish or they can even make it into an amino paste and add some artificial flavors. This would limit the amount of food stores they would have to continually ship in and wouldn't have to waste time sucking a planet dry.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Speaking as a Rogue Squadron fan, a good squad of B, Y, or X-Wings can easily sink that ship, pal.

[@janwitts2688]

And it's escort of 37 lancer.. ooops

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@janwitts2688 Not a problem for a Mon Calamari cruiser or several Nebulon-B frigates.

[@NayuzAqua]

Proper escort with actually good AA focused ships, actually good layered defense and good fighters and good commanders (tho this would be hella rare for the empire to have lmao): wait it's tem Empire. They wouldn't do and have soke of these things lmao

[@Fenrir152]

​@@NayuzAquaI mean if you deploy one of these with a healthy fighter screen in Armada, it's a hella bad day for the Rebels.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@NayuzAqua 99 percent of the Imperial fleet are escort ships. The ISDs only show up when things have gone sour or an elite member of the Emperor's court is involved.

[@johannesbowers7467]

"Throw big rock" remains a most effective use of resources. Upgrade accessories like stealth coating or a hyperdrive is just gravy at that point.

[@Bluetheknight21]

It is absolutely wild that alderaan had a planetary shield and I just found out about this now. I didn't realize the death Star was that powerful!

[@raptordoesyoutube107]

Forgive me if someone has mentioned this or it wouldn’t work the way I think. Wouldn’t Ion weapons be more effective at disabling a planetary shield than just brute force with a super laser? Couldn’t the empire make an ion cannon weapon that specifically attacks these planetary shields without destroying valuable resources or being so expensive to create or maintain?

[@thekaxmax]

Cos an ion shot disrupts one shield generator, but a planetary shield is hundreds of generators or more. Could be done, but you end up with a more specialised ship than this thing.

[@vexile1239]

Ion cannons are also electromagnetic in nature, meaning that the planet's electromagnetic field would interfere with the ion cannons shots

[@thieupham493]

Planetary shields are not the problem, all you need is one droid pilot and a hyperdrive to overcome any shields. Superlasers were about projecting fear as it's the most cost effective weapon in the galaxy. You fire it once and the fear spreads so quickly you'll never have to fire it again unless you need to remind them to pay their taxes. There's only a few substances in the galaxy that are considered valuable, everything else can be found all throughout the galaxy. Beskar can only be found on one planet and moon, Kyber crystals are found all over the place and they grow, just like any crystal. The rarest thing in the Star Wars galaxy is an LGTBQ Sith Lord.

[@thekaxmax]

@@thieupham493 Considering almost all of them are so self-centred and monomaniacal that they are effectively sexless, that's the 'A' in LGTBQA+.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

If the Death Stars are the Schwerer Gustav and Little Dora guns, then these would be the Karl-Gerat guns. Smaller, but a bit more practical (relatively speaking).

[@christiankrueger8048]

Thank you!

[@Wastelandman7000]

Fun fact: Onager (I believe) is "wild ass" in Latin. It was also named for a Roman catapult. Mostly because of the way the catapult bucked when it fired. Like a wild ass kicking. (as in donkey, but make your own jokes)

[@MatthewSobotka]

Onager The finest Trolling ship in all of Star Wars Armada. I remember when they first came out. We were playing a campaign, My buddy had bought a star hawk As we had stupidly allowed people to use large base ships for the campaign. Well I decided to go ahead and meet him With an Onager. Brother, it was glorious 3 x 3 map Close quarters with OSD and isd 2 Versus the Starhawk and I think some CR 90s. It ended up with us Rochambeau in each other to glory with the Onager coming out on top!

[@GlitchSystem-xf7jb]

4:23 I think it's pretty cool to see that the Death Star could do low yeld blast in the movie Rogue One

[@victormarquez603]

Gen tech for head writer of all Star Wars.

[@crysisrevelation6132]

Building thousands of Onagers would have been the logical choice for the Empire. But as history has proven over and over again, that when it comes to authoritarian regimes, logic requires thinking for oneself. Thinking for oneself is wrong think, and wrong think is a capital offense punishable by death.

[@thieupham493]

Building that many ships was stupid, they should have just bribed Han Solo to destroy any planetary shields they needed to go down.

[@bet0v966]

Hell yea Onager gettin some respect. Shoot if the Empire made more of these, plus Doomgiver ships, they mighta won

[@lerneanlion]

After the destruction of the first Death Star, what stopped the Empire from producing more of the Onager-class Star Destroyers, the Interdictors and the TIE-Defenders? Going back for the another Death Star makes little to no sense at all.

[@daniels7907]

Palpatine's ego. Also, his love of centralized control meant that he probably preferred a single giant superweapon rather than a lot of smaller ones which would mean more commanding officers whose loyalty needed to be kept track of.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

arrogance. pure arrogance by a certain former senator from Naboo

[@thieupham493]

Darth Trump already lost one election and has even fewer supporters this time, yet Dark MAGA thinks Darth Trump can rule the Empire again if he buys a big portion of the Galactic Holonet to spread the right wing Propaganda. Do they need to spend a billion galactic bucks for a job that makes just a few million a year because they need more money or is it ego and the ability to steal even more?

[@short72hp1]

Great video💯👍

[@bendavis3778]

I wonder is something like ODSTs of Helldivers would work against planetary shields. Go right through and drop right next to the generators so they can take it out

[@connorthemerc8043]

Bit late but no it wouldnt, planetary shields are shown being able to stop physical object, as seen with the Rebel fleet having to pull away so they wouldnt hit the DS2s shield, or a better example being the X wings hitting and splashing against the planetary shield in Rogue one

[@bendavis3778]

@connorthemerc8043 Thats because they had repulser engines. We see plenty of examples where non repulser tech is able to bypass shields, such as Hoth and Attolon

[@GGBlaster]

The Onager goes against the Tarkin doctrine by virtue alone of its range. You wouldn’t see an Onager looming over you if it was on the edge of your star system. They’re deadly, to be sure, but when the Tarkin Doctrine is founded on people being pacified by the shadow of a Star Destroyer, the Onager casts no shadow for people to fear.

[@Castor586]

Let's fix this then. Step 1) Make it impractically large, but let's refuse to add more TIE fighters, point defense weapons, and multiple munitions launchers. Those are way too expensive... Step 2) Reduce the overall damage output of the main weapons. That way we need to double production in order to achieve the same results. Step 3) Bask in the glory of the latest and greatest Onager! With it's reduced range and firepower, nobody can mistake that imposing silhouette as it spends hours hammering away at your pathetic regional shield generators! All shall tremble before the might of the Empire! ... Step 4) Send the design back to the drawing board... That command tower is still way too close to the hull. Make it taller! Step 5) Those hyperdrive engines are way too expensive. Let's install the more reliable Class 4 hyperdrives. That'll learn those Rebel Scum! Step 5) This R&D is becoming way too expensive. Reduce the armor thickness on the hull, and begin a sustained supply of shield generators from Temu. Also remove one of those sublight engines for good measure. We need these things to be much more cost effective! Step 6) Uh oh... Rebel squadrons are bombing our manufacturing facilities... Release the Onagers!! Step 7) Well, all of the Onagers are gone, and the one factory that was producing them is severely damaged. Better write that design off as a failure. We tried, boss.

[@GGBlaster]

@@Castor586 I think you’re joking 😅, but just to be clear, I wasn’t saying the Onager was bad. Imo, it is the better strategic option, but if Tarkin or Palpatine are rating it, they’d prefer the flashiness of an ISD or the Death Star.

[@Castor586]

@@GGBlaster haha that's the whole point of the joke! Strategic effectiveness and overall results are lower on the list vs big and flashy, so I listed out how to make it fit the Tarkin Doctrine. It's all satire, but it demonstrates just how ludicrous the doctrine really is

[@ThePartisan13]

Tarkin sounds like he's straight out of a comic book, lmfao.

[@GGBlaster]

@ He honestly is lol. George Lucas designed most his Star Wars villains to be very unambiguously bad

[@barbiquearea]

The Onager is very similar to the Aggressor Class Star Destroyers. These were a unique type of warship that was featured in the Star Wars Empire At War: Forces of Corruption video game, and they were the premier capital ship of the Zann Consortium. Like the Onager, this type of ship also had a main forward facing rail gun that fired an enormous plasma shot, which was very devastating when it fired at enemy warships and planetary ground targets. This ship was a Imperial design and was found by Tyber Zann, the leader of the Zann Consortium criminal syndicate from the wreckage of the first Death Star. Unlike the Onager, the Aggressor had two powerful fire-linked guns fixed to the forward hull which fired a large ion pulse followed by an enormous, spiraling plasma shot. The ion shot disabled the shields so the plasma shot could do maximum damage. Its not known if their cannons were powered by Kyber crystals, but they were extremely powerful nonetheless and could make short work of enemy capital ships and space stations. Although the Aggressor was from Legends, I like to think that whoever designed the Onager also came up with the Aggressor. Either that or one of the designs inspired the creation of the other.

[@chefdean7257]

This line, two weeks prior to US elections, will echo into eternity . . . 1:25

[@zogar8526]

I like the the only weapons ble to punch through planetary shields are cyber crystal powered ones. It just makes sense. No ship would be able to carry enough power to punch through with normal weapons. As no mater how much power a ship could produce, a planet will produce several orders of magnitude more, at least.

[@thieupham493]

You must be one of those people who rely on science as the Kyber Crystals didn't generate the power needed, it was the magical hyper matter that generated the needed electrical power that then were sent through the crystals to focus and amplify to levels high enough to overcome the gravity holding a planet together.

[@Jurassiccanonking]

I really really want to see Thrawn do a Base Delta Zero in the movie.

[@echosdatacore2056]

What's actually unique about the Onager was it has different types of weaponry on the main cannon design.

[@amyneith]

And thus, plot armor wins again. It affects even the galactic economy. Honestly this might be my new favorite star destroyer.

[@NetherCrafterSMC]

Man I love the Onager, if I was an Admiral this would be my flagship

[@philipmetts8831]

I thought of a thing called a torque load power generator that minimally slowed a rotating body to extract massive energy output. There is a huge amount of power in a rotating planet and it works for thousands of years before making any noticeable effect. A shield powered by it will be exceedingly effective.

[@thieupham493]

I heard some dumb scientists suggest the same thing, but I think they are mostly stupid as that wouldn't be able to extra enough actual energy to compensate for the amount of energy that hypermatter could focus on a small area. I mean Hypermatter contains so much energy that a single drop of it added to a fusion engine could allow a ship to break the hold of a group of large black holes. I doubt a rotating planet generates even a fraction of that amount of energy.

[@opraiderman904]

Affordable energy is always the answer to kindle prosperity.

[@sonicguyver7445]

So the Base Delta Zero sounds like the Star Wars equivalent to General Order 24 in Star Trek.

[@acevanguard6498]

Love this ship in Armada!

[@kamerondonaldson5976]

running out of planets to govern isnt necessarily an issue. space pirates regularly construct space stations inside asteroid fields. the issue is what happens when all your ships and space stations are destroyed and there's no habitable planets..

[@thieupham493]

Move to another galaxy on space whales.

[@nighthawk3045]

That ship is one of my top 10 favorite star wars ships.

[@generalveers9544]

This thing is easily the number one Star Wars vehicle I wish we could get LEGO sets and other models of

[@reidveryan9414]

Base-Delta-0 is just aggressive re-landscaping.

[@sundragon7703]

Rivals often shape a state's military as rivals attempt to counter each other's innovations. Since there was no near-peer state to rival the Galactic Empire in the beginning, the Empire's military expanded like an unpruned bush. Like all large organizations, once programs get started, it is hard to pivot (for a variety of reasons). So the "bush" continues to expand uncontrollably. Note: The RMS Titanic provides a good comparison/metaphor.

[@LiliaArmoury]

anyone who thinks the seige ship at the start of the last jedi was lore breaking clearly weren't star wars armada players because this ship came from that game

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Well, it's there to fix the FO lore because it came out after the movie

[@LiliaArmoury]

@@Hello-bi1pm it came out before that movie

[@LiliaArmoury]

@@Hello-bi1pm as for fixing the lore, starkiller base is a logical leap in tech from the deathstar that levels up the scale of the threat

[@TerryCheever]

Top shelf geek. Get into it

[@Uberdude6666]

I imagine Allen being present in one of Palpatine's council-meetings, where they discuss how to best use the Kyber crystal-technology to subjugate the galaxy, and Allen is like "Why don't we just use the kyber crystals to make infinite energy for the people, so that they will want to remain loyal to the Empire by their own choise?"

[@thieupham493]

He's an idiot and would be force choked for offering to control morons through love instead of fear. The last time a guy offered humanity love, they put him on a cross.

[@Shadowghost36]

I feel like part of it was that Palpatine couldn't risk placing that much power in THAT many people's hands. One Death Star, sure you can give control of that to a trusted subordinate who wouldn't stab you in the back or go rouge. 1000 planet cracking ships? No way, there's no way that he could trust THAT many people with the power to snipe the Imperial Palace on Corusant.

[@architectrealities7693]

wasn't the whole 'secret' reason for the deathstar project was so palpatine could 'oneshot' the vong when they came to show off the might of the empire to 'protect' people from hostile aliens and smoother rebellions.

[@thekaxmax]

According to apologists, certainly. His methods are still as evil as hell, of course

[@ThePartisan13]

And yet Thrawn being from the same region as them still saw the death star as an absolute waste.

[@Fluffernutter48_]

14:21 do you also play project stardust?

[@SirRGijsbers]

i think its funny how i like stardestroyers with obious purpuse middlesections. the venator with its hangar bay the onager with its cannons the executer with its cityscape ''what does it do? well look at it!"

[@johnquach8821]

Onager Class is an underrated ship.

[@jamoecw]

Did they change the scaling of hyperdrives? It used to be that larger number was slower, so a 5 was much slower than a 2.

[@stefaneer9120]

I think we did actually research for orbital bombardment. That's really interesting for NASA, ESA and the Russians, or the Chinese Space agency.

[@GAJake]

Tarkin: We need 2 death stars! Thrawn: Why not cheaper droid tie interceptors, a handful of tie defenders, smaller more efficient star destroyers and carriers with proper escort ships, and a handful of interdictors and onagers, all for a fraction of the cost of 2 death stars.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

The problem is we never see Thrawn follow his own advice because writers are dumb

[@thieupham493]

Tarkin had a friend in construction so he was getting a piece of the action. What kind of politician wants less spending when it's going to his friends?

[@arceus4410]

14:21 wow you play stardust?

[@PrinceofPwnage]

Just hit the two shield generators at the top and the bottom one too, then hit the bridge Rogue Squadron 2 showed me that

[@florians9949]

10:55, yeah but as always the Empire thanks to Tarkin seems to be allergic to treating their population nicely.

[@thekaxmax]

Palpy, with Tarkin as a tool, wanted fear and uncertainty and oppression

[@florians9949]

@@thekaxmax sure, but Tarkin achived this in the most in eficient way possible. Thrawn and Vader where also pupets of Palpatine and yet they were vastly better at there job than Tarkin ever was, and if they had there ways the Empire would still be standing.

[@free2befree]

Hubris.. no matter the setting. Evils eventual downfall, thinking it's too big to fail.

[@edison6359]

I think thrawn will prefer palpatine build more onager then death star since the onager is actually viable for some situation unlike the death star is overkill and unnecessary

[@cynthiaherbst3909]

I think it was a Thrawn quote that the Tarkin Doctrine was as wasteful as it was stupid.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Man, this looks like the FO Dreadnaugh.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

it’s the inspiration for it

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

@@bostonrailfan2427 nice, that is great to know.

[@nerdwatch1017]

I feel that instead of ever making it a movie instead a Rogue Squadron series would be amazing especially for a 8 episode season. Making each episode like a Band of Brothers like story. Spend much time getting to know the teams of pilots. With each episode a different mission leading up to an epic battle. Also each season you could spend in a different era.

[@thieupham493]

They're all going to be LGBTQ characters right? No Star Wars is right without lots of LGBTQ characters.

[@mattheweaton9111]

Imp pretty sure they had at least a few hundred of these. they would have put them to good use of course. just cause we only know of 4 doesn't mean there were only 4. For all we know there could have been at least 400 or as many at 700 to 800

[@nomemories130]

There's the ISD, the SSD, and this the IUDSD

[@keirfarnum6811]

You forgot the SSDI and SSI.

[@baystated]

Did the shot to Scarif go thru the shield? Was the Sheild down or up at that moment?

[@indigoTwilight1967]

Have you ever watched the TV show Babylon 5? I think you might like the space ships in the tv show. One the ship's designs was so good and practical that it was bought by NASA.

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

The onager didn't fire solid shots, it used charged particles,

[@CrashCraftLabs]

the weapon of this is what i imagine the republics venator star destroyer should have had, a small version sure, and it should take the place of the dual bridge while still lookng like a bridge lol

[@baronjutter]

Are those guinea pig squeaks at 7:00 ?

[@alluringming]

What if Generation tech designed the imperial navy and army?

[@KevekGaming]

Hard disagree. The Onager class is a specialized weapon using expensive and rare materials. When used in a theoretical fleet of 1,000 Onagers would use a lot of personnel, maintenance time, and be resource intensive. Crewing 1,000 Onagers would take more than ten times the personnel used the crew the Death Star and be even more expensive in all costs associated. The Empire's crews and captains are a finite number, albeit a big one, but finite regardless. Crew and captains used in the Onager's, a weapon tat is limited in scope and purpose takes away crew and captains from more general purpose vessels. The Onager is a good ship design for its purpose, and a few at the sector fleet level would have been a much better use of the Death Star's budget honestly. What was Alliance Intelligence smoking?

[@thieupham493]

The Empire has so many people they don't even bother to protect them from solar radiation when they send them into space to fight. You can grow more people quickly, but it takes a long time for Kyber Crystals to grow, but you can definitely reuse crystals whenever you upgrade to a new ship class. The materials in these Starships can always be recycled. You will never run out of stupid people willing to serve a Dark Lord of the Sith, just ask Donald Trump and his apprentice Dark MAGA.

[@build4timetfisakilometer]

hey bro idea: what if the empire stopped the resistance from becoming as organized as it eventually became

[@thieupham493]

The Empire should have sent in infiltrators to start their own factions in the rebellion. If you get enough factions going, they end up tripping over one another and every setback can always be pinned on another faction. Keep them fighting each other and give your plants extra resources and successes and they will eventually be in charge and can serve the rebellion up one small faction at a time.

[@sean_before8807]

Communication/comscan network video?

[@ThePartisan13]

0:46 If your Sabine and friends you can just ride a wild animal straight through this bombardment without taking any injury 🙄

[@tim2024-df5fu]

I don't think you realize how many inhabited worlds there are in Star Wars. They could destroy dozens of planets a year without causing even a blip on the radar. In Legends, the galaxy had 3.2 billion inhabited systems, canon recognizes the number as 3.2 million, and the Galactic Republic represented 1.3 million planets during the prequel era.

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

Yeah that number of 3.2 bilion is stiupid if Republic had only 1.3 milion worlds

[@Comicsluvr]

Palpatine had the same issues with understanding people and technology that Hitler had. I'm sure the comparison wasn't accidental. Instead of trying to rule through fear, all Palpatine had to do was provide food, comfort, and security to the masses. After a decade or less, they would have grown so used to the Empire's helping hand that they would have turned a blind eye to any shenanigans they got up to.

[@thieupham493]

You're delusional, give them enough comfort and they will start demanding representation, fewer taxes and more LGBTQ rights, more female Storm Troopers and Admirals and transgender bathrooms on Star Destroyers, free gender reassignment surgeries.

[@surters]

Somehow those kind of regimes always thinks bigger is better.

[@Caladon]

Love this ship

[@Darth-vade123]

That requested one for hoth sfter ozzel fucked up but none would arrive in time

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Makes sense

[@thesharpercoder]

I watched this entire video and now I am terrified. Good think I am Generation Tech and believe in democracy.

[@Scianta]

Onager seems to have replaced the Torpedo sphere

[@ZombieEater73]

I've been meaning to ask "what the hell are you using as a pop filter?"

[@Wyrm1701]

One thing that puzzles me about the Star Wars universe is that you do not seem to have any uploaded cultures, or any heavily cyborg cultures of any note. This would seem the obvious route to go since as soon as you and your species don't depend on oxygen worlds, you effectively stop competing with the Empire and can co-exist with them fairly happily. A cybernetic species would also be able to travel to places where hyperdrives cannot or do not go, and exploit resources and planets that oxygen-requiring life cannot use. It would finally be much more flexible in habitat and would be able to spend the bulk of its time in virtual environments, needing only a ship and an energy source to keep the computers functional.

[@vexile1239]

Such things have apparently been mentioned in legends and expanded universe on more then one occasion, however disney fan-fic writers declared all legends and eu as more or less bs, while also ripping off some legends and eu materials

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

*laughs in Y-Wing* That's right, I'm a Y-Wing fan 😐

[@enoughothis]

The best bomber in the franchise, fight me. What other bomber fought in every fight from the Clone Wars to the Resistance/Final Order war?

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

I look at them as a fighter bomber, they're not quite as unmaneuverable as people say and tough as old boots....which fits cause they're old as hell lol.

[@Wolfen443]

I fear that our primitive lasers will one day might come close to all this destruction.

[@thieupham493]

Yeah, we just have to figure out how to make lasers combine into one beam like Lucas.

[@williamsederberg1752]

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