Hazbin Hotel: What Works & What Doesn't (@RebelTaxi)

[@RebelTaxi]

Head to squarespace.com/rebeltaxi to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code REBELTAXI Glad I saw this early. I want that damn Spider.

[@Atomo_the_otherworldy]

Bruh make your audio quality better. It sounds awful

[@viejodamis09]

"I want that damn Spider", we found you Miguel, you're not fooling anyone with that accent, I can recognize a latino when I hear one.

[@taddad2641]

Hoenstly man, i think that is the piont with Lucifer. He isn't some grand dark king here, not at all. He's a doofus that made a mistake and is being punished for it. He may be hell's king, but that doesn't mean shit when hell is being treated like a prison. He is just running the asylum he was throw into.

[@NJ-tm1vn]

Hey can you describe what happens in episode 5?

[@ActuallyNickV]

You see, Pan is really smart. By criticizing Lucifer's design, the hoards of obsessed fans will defend the hell out of it, driving up comments and interactions lmao

[@molanohouse]

Huh?

[@genetlair5999]

No amount of fan anger will generate the amount of sadness that he does when he desires this sort of attention over literally anything else.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

Damn​@@genetlair5999

[@dishsoap446]

​@@genetlair5999 it's a joke dude

[@supermarioplushes2517]

Pun intended?

[@BugsyFoga]

Fun story, I got to meet Vivzi when she went to TooManyGames back in 2022, and not only did she give me a little doodle of Moxxie in my sketchbook, but also recognized my Rebeltaxi cosplay, so that was pretty nice.

[@Solaris_Paradox]

Lucky! I've been a fan of Vivziepop since the Die Young fan animation.

[@mirage999]

That's cool!!!

[@danotaku5241]

Did she threatened to beat you up?

[@BugsyFoga]

@@danotaku5241 nope

[@athena_ivory9142]

​@@danotaku5241uh what?😂

[@CrayolaSniffer8008135]

kid named Verbalase:

[@RebelTaxi]

NO

[@Mind_Crimes]

@ReblTaxi Only 76 to go we can do this ratio baybee

[@hungryburger1170]

$50k down the drain! HERE I COME!

[@sketchycat6223]

I know everyone’s already talked about it, but the story of this show going from a popular KZbin pilot to an getting picked up by a major studio is still just so impressive. Hopefully it does well enough to open a door for other online independent animations to be supported and financed.

[@TheDude8008]

Hopefully they won't experience what Final Space had to go through

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

​@@TheDude8008At this point it's on you if you wanna work with big studios on animation, the abuses to workers and mistreatment of creators and show is very well-known.

[@wisconsinking323]

What do you mean?​@@TheDude8008

[@TheDude8008]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 What does that have to do with Final Space? Final Space couldn't have a proper final season because of company merges and copyright hell.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@TheDude8008 Yeah, exactly my point. If you wanna go in animation don't be a chump and work with big companies

[@BranFlaixx]

0:18 Ayyyy I animated that shot, lmao

[@Microfoot]

It is always nice to see an adult cartoon that doesn't look like Family Guy or Rick and Morty.

[@mrscruffles801]

Right?!

[@JLMetak]

Too bad it's about as well written as those

[@Off-with-a-bang]

Don't forget Big Mouth" idk why they keep giving that atrocious show more seasons? I watched two season and I couldn't take it anymore.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

​@@Off-with-a-bangI think it's supposed to be gross no? Ironically Big Mouth treats their animators better than Viv and most other animation companies

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

​@@JLMetakPeople who only watch kid's cartoons when they learn adults swear and make vulgar jokes

[@Mind_Crimes]

If its one thing I can commend Hazbin Hotel for since the pilot, its that its an adult cartoon that isn't afraid to act like a cartoon. The way the characters look and move, the whimsicality of the musical numbers, the characters don't devolve into stereotypes who's only trait is being offensive - its energy moment to moment harnesses the spirit of animation arguably more than even most kids cartoons. It really shouldn't have taken this long to get here.

[@BeyondBaito]

Pan Pizza mentioning Evil Dead the Musical is the best part of this whole video.

[@RebelTaxi]

Never watched much horror but Evil Dead is my fav horror franchise

[@BeyondBaito]

@@RebelTaxi I discovered Evil Dead the Musical when I was 10 watching a Sonic Underground review. Someone posted a bootleg of the off broadway show on KZbin. It introduced me to Evil Dead. Its one of the best horror movies ever made next to The Thing and Im a hyperfan of the musical.

[@piercingblue3657]

Gonna watch season 4 of ash vs evil dead pan? It's confirmed it's gonna be animated. @@RebelTaxi

[@Birdyboys]

Vivziepop actually stated in a few articles that she always planned to get celebrity VAs.

[@AtomicF0x]

I'd say getting Richard Horvitz for Helluva Boss was proof enough of that.

[@the_squad1565]

and kesha in helluva boss @@AtomicF0x

[@gearguts7259]

I dont even know if they count as "celebrities" on the big sense besides Keith, Broadway actors aint the same as hollywood superstars, and it makes sense to hire them for a musical, yknow? Im glad the original VAs have work tho and I understand why for fans the change was weird, I just dont like how its being framed as the same as them getting Chris Patt for Sir Pent or something. Broadway actors doin VA work is actually common in animation, SU had a bunch of them!

[@gearguts7259]

@@7elevenhomelessman310 Literally in the video is stated that this is wrong, multiple crew members AND people who work on the industry have explained that she pays ABOVE AVERAGE on both Hazbin and Helluva. Btw the person who spread the "pocket change" rumor is a stalker, and ghe screenshot is a discord talk with a random with no proof. You can google the average pay for different animation jobs and compare it yourself btw, all the info is public.

[@Huppa3333]

The plan was to get Broadway singers who could Voice Act, not Voice Actors who could sing. She liked broadway shows, and wanted to bridge the gap between animation and broadway.

[@Solaris_Paradox]

"Episode 6 Verbalase checks in" Pan-Pizza I freakin' love you! Lmfao

[@blackday1013]

Whenever someone designs Lucifer, I actually like bright, happy designs like this. It makes sense since he is a former angel. It's fun having these angelic designs turn sinister when they get upset.

[@Comet346]

Yeah especially since he has an obsession with ducks makes it even better

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

The bigger issue is he doesn't look either angelic OR demonic. I get the circus ringleader aesthetic but it just seems like your standard Tumblr sexyman designs that she does. A lot of the characters have a sorta inconsistent design plan too, feels like too many random elements on everyone.

[@honaleri]

Like. I feel both charlie and Lucifer are like... clowns. The remind me of Ronald McDonald.

[@blackday1013]

@@honaleri They're kind of supposed to be. All the sins are meant to be part of a circus act. Lucifer is designed as a ringmaster

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@blackday1013 Feels like she just likes the clown boy aesthetic every girl simps over nowadays. At least it seems that way.

[@EK24z]

For your notes about Lucifer's design, Vivzie actually noted that all of the Sins (including Lucifer, who is the Sin of pride) are meant to evoke circus acts, such as Mammon's clown theme being self evident, Bee's connection with Hellhounds being evocative of an Animal Tamer, and Satan's associated phone app being a workout app suggests he'll be a Strongman. Lucifer, also being the overall King of Hell, then resembles a Circus Ringleader.

[@nmellis6795]

Well the issue is that...he probably didn't notice because it's not very well implemented. I don't think anyone would realize that unless they were explicitly told which is a problem. Other than Mammon being a straight-up jester obsessed with clowns and clowning, nothing about the other designs really portrays the other roles or any explicit circus themes (especially Bee, she's a dog/bee hybrid that wears casual, more modern-day party clothes). Lucifer specifically doesn't quite have any unique design features to make him the very obvious ringleader except for the imposed title of being the ruler of Hell. Asmodeus also wears a suit with a near-identical build, his only difference is just looking like a different type of demon; and Lucifer's falling flat solely when looking at only the Sins, this is without me pointing out all the Overlords and other various demons of varying ranks and importance that also, ALSO wear suits.

[@gallacta]

what nmellis above said, it's not very well presented. like. at all. hell even mammon whose design is the least offensive in this regard completely misses the mark by being a JESTER! jesters and clowns aren't the same thing! as someone who only has surface knowledge on the show and its worldbuilding this connection completely flew over my head because it's so poorly executed (which i think is criticism worth applying to the entire show and how it expects the audience to be familiar with the cast before diving in but that's another topic entirely) and honestly i feel like it's a huge issue when it comes to hazbin's designs. it's hard to tell *what* each character is supposed to be based off of because it rarely translates into their design (i had to be told vaggie was supposed to be a moth and that charlie was inspired by dolls. this is a problem). my hot take? hazbin hotel designs aren't good. they're visually appealing. but are objectively bad designs that are hard to look at when they're moving on the screen

[@nmellis6795]

@@gallacta Right! Plus the significance of a lot of these design elements boils down to aesthetic and nothing else, and in doing so actually muddles them; Like how not only Vaggie is a moth, but Valentino ALSO is. Do they have any significant similarities or connections to each other? Not really. Do either of them have any thematic reasons for being a moth? Nope. And when the themes are heavily pushed to the extreme, it makes the world feel WEIRD, like going back to Mammon. You're gonna sit here and tell me that THAT many people absolutely LOVE clowns to the point of a clown-specific America's Got Talent-like show to not only have that many contestants but a packed mega stadium? What would've been the harm of making it a regular talent show? Fiz could still be a clown and win it, why do you have to push that it's specifically clowns? Is it purely to go along with the poorly established circus theming for the Deadly Sins???

[@xtracelestial6665]

​@@nmellis6795I see what you mention about the moth connection. However, from what I've heard (which may be incorrect feel free to correct me if im wrong) is that Vivzipop dropped the Moth motif for Vaggie but kept it for Valentino. Apparently Valetino's connection to the moth is that moth's are "creatures of the night" akin to prostitutes who probably star in adult movies. Nevertheless, this talk about designs interests me as someone who typically enjoys designs from an aesthetic pov (well, humanoid designs at least).

[@nmellis6795]

@@xtracelestial6665 I'm actually not sure if she did or didn't I'll have to look into that. But what's weird is that Vaggie's new design has MORE moth elements than her previous one to the point where both her bow and hair directly resembles moth wings. It's weird to have a design like this if she didn't want that connection so like...if it's true, she either decided this WAY too late into production or it was an off handed statement said in response to criticism. I dunno which at the moment, I still gotta look that up. If you could find when she said that if she ever did, that'd help a ton. And that's not the only time where multiple characters share the same animal motifs. Angel Dust, that one overlord and (maybe) Niffty all have spider themes to them without having any real strong, obvious connections.

[@joseph2000117]

I know this is random but seeing demons and monsters in an adult cartoon setting just makes me wish Ugly Americans was more popular

[@CircularMirror7]

🔥

[@raidencola]

Ugly Americans was so fucking good, super underrated show

[@BetamaxFlippy]

I didn't know what Ugly Americans was but as soon as I saw the same "high value GoAnimate" style I immediately checked out...

[@caranostalgico9249]

Funny thing, the first time I watched the Pilot episode of Hazbin Hotel, I left a comment stating that it looked like a combination of Ugly Americans and something else I can't remember, lol

[@A.M.intheAM]

@BetamaxFlippy how flippant and cool of you. Thanks for letting us know

[@kaibobes1997]

8:22 if you zoom in on the background you can see a picture of Charlie in a goth phase. I hope I'm not the only one who saw that

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

That could be Lilith. It’s hard to tell

[@lizzeyflower]

Yep that is her our princess use to be a 😂 goth from 2010's

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

I think you were, but thanks for pointing it out!

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

This show coming out sometimes felt like a pipe dream because of how long it took.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Cuz she focused on a spin-off first for some fucking reason

[@carnage0685]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 she was waiting for it to get picked up

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@carnage0685 It still kinda damaged her brand a bit

[@carnage0685]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 fair enough, yeah

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@carnage0685 Not even just the negative reception to Helluva, but the fact it seemed like she cared more about the spin-off than the main show

[@Chineseisntalanguageapparently]

Ngl if you get your show made I’ll actually make a streaming account instead of pirating it just for you pan

[@JeffreyThrash]

How sweet.

[@Chineseisntalanguageapparently]

@@JeffreyThrash yea I like supporting small creators and businesses

[@ivygracesplace]

My jaw dropped when I saw Lucifer next to Charlie. The epitome of Short King

[@aeonstrife147]

Helluva Boss' Stolas has a more imposing design for a high ruler of hell

[@Pamela-dv7gb]

Lucifer isn’t supposed to be menacing because he isn’t even an demon. And a angel isn’t supposed being scary, menacing or looking powerfull 😊

[@blakchristianbale]

@@Pamela-dv7gbbut he also doesn’t look any different from the other demon characters

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

I think Lucifers appearance fits him perfectly. He seems small and unassuming no one will think he is a threat so when he actually uses his powers he will be terrafying. Having a small and harmless character suddenly being bad ass is a common trope after all. Plus as for him not having guards if he is the strongest in hell then he will not need guards. I feel like we will get some scenes where he shows his power either in this season or the next one. Edit: after watching the finale looks like I was right.

[@Ctate2008]

Exactly! And to add to what you said about the guards, he literally can’t die. He can only be smited by an Angel of a higher ranking than him. I would say the only people that can smite him is God and most likely that Sera person that we saw in the trailer, but we don’t know enough about her yet, so that’s just a guess.

[@syrusangi8743]

I agree. Also worth noting he's the king of Hell, especially the Pride Ring. What better way to flaunt ur pride by saying 'who needs bodyguards? Fuck around n find out.'

[@platinumdragon3007]

I think that it's also possible that this version of Lucifer isn't actually as involved in running Hell as we might expect. The Pride Ring seems to be a pretty anarchic place divvied up between the various Overlords and Overlord wannabes like Sir Pentious, while the other rings seem to be overseen more directly by their specific Sins. The story that Charlie relates at the start of the first episode (which might be unreliable, a lot of people are predicting that there's another side to the story that's far more morally gray than what Charlie would like to believe) also says that Lucifer felt defeated and "lost his will to dream" after his actions created Hell and led to him being cast out by the rest of the angels, preventing him from ever seeing the good side of humanity again, only their evil. So it's possible that he doesn't really involve himself with Hell's affairs and doesn't command much structural power, although he is almost certainly well-known and respected. This is all speculation though, based off what I've seen (the pilot and the first two episodes), and it remains to be seen how exactly the power structures of Hell operate in this universe.

[@Doritoschiplivingthebestlife]

Like father like daughter (I hopefully wrote this phrase correctly)

[@hp8167]

I think the ending line should seal it for most people. "If you don't like Helluva Boss, don't watch it." No need to hate watch or force yourself to watch something you don't enjoy. Anyway, I hope Loki IRL does great. There has been a lot of lean towards indie projects nowadays due to companies deleting media from streaming or not releasing it entirely for tax write offs and I'm always glad to see more animation, especially from something as unique as the show looks.

[@CMYKITSUNE]

is it valid to not watch helluva bc hazbin's premise interests me more and i dont want to be spoiled?

[@rachelmayes3064]

I couldn't stand Hellavu Boss because of Blitzo and that awful gay owl romance plot.

[@Doritoschiplivingthebestlife]

@@CMYKITSUNEit is valid, but you wouldn’t get spoiled if you’d watch helluva

[@Doritoschiplivingthebestlife]

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[@JLCL01]

I would recommend people watch at least S1 of Helluva Boss; I actually liked most episodes of that. With Hazbin the first 6 out of 8 eps are not really jelling well with me. Alot of it comes down to blowing it's load too early with certain plot elements. Something that should have been teased or revealed in the later episodes, if not the last, IMMEDIATELY gets revealed in Ep1. There's more but it's a lot to get into.

[@KhumoFiveTen]

Tbf, they showed Charlie’s parents in the Pilot with a picture. But not everyone would notice that or watch the pilot, so still, it could still maybe be clearer.

[@seangiglio]

I love that this shows up when you search for Verbalase

[@bloosfx0]

look at the description 😭😭

[@VampyKitsune]

The formula of Vivzi's shows are okay. Though its mainly just character development and lore dumps/flashbacks. I get that most content creators focus on the main product now. But I feel like the show going for a quasi-episodic/serialized angle bogs it down. Like I'd prefer either having a mainline story and take a multimedia approach explaining characters through supplental shorts or books, leaving the main plot as the main focus of the show. That or take the foster house's route and make the show episodic and let individual episodes showcase a character but allow enough leeway to watch out of order for newcomers to not get daunted by being dropped in the middle. All in all Vivzi's shows do a lot of tell and showing why characters are the way they are. However, characters aren't given the room to live life without triggering some issue from their past that insights another lore dump.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

You can develop characters in a serialized show lol

[@VampyKitsune]

@LJK401 Yeah, it's possible, but it's the plot that takes center stage. Im not against character development. it's just when that's all a show is and plot is relegated to a few callbacks to previous episodes. It's not really all that engaging to those interested in the story. I want to clarify I love the characters in HuB and HBH but I want to see more beyond their past. Having the characters make strides towards a goal as the center focus would help it feel more engaging.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@VampyKitsune I mean you'd think with the show's premise it'd be more episodic

[@denysvision]

​@@VampyKitsune just say you love episodic shows more

[@excruciatingpaingaming93]

This is what kind of pulled me out of Helluva Boss. Season 1 was great because there wasn’t much backstory and tangents to bog it down, mostly comedy and some comedic numbers. S2 is all backstory, drama, and bad musicals. Not at all what I signed up for

[@lilo19951995]

"husk who's an asshole and nobody's favorite character" bites you bites you bites you bites you

[@boshwa20]

As long as it doesn't sound like a 5 year old just discovered all the swear words, I'll give it a shot

[@minigmaenigma]

got bad news about the first two episodes lol

[@jonahyoungkin2430]

There's a scene in episode one where Adam talks about his dick for 15 seconds straight

[@ScootyPuffJrSux]

It's more like a 13 year old redditor that learned about biblically accurate angels a week ago

[@boshwa20]

@@minigmaenigma Weird how children shows can be more mature than shows made for adults

[@BirbBeeps]

Yeah the Angel Dust character can't speak without sounding like baby's first sex rp

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

Was not expecting Pan to show him having a pet axolotl. Almost as crazy as knowing GiancarloParimango has had kids over 5 years.

[@woodman3926]

Great job on the video Pan! I do want to address some of the things you said though, just to help people better understand: 1. Yes! Alex is the voice of Adam, as well as Pentious 2. For Lucifer, I get the criticism, but if anyone has seen Helluva Boss the Sins in general don’t really come across as the powerful ring rulers they’re meant to be and are just some guys. They aren’t shown to have people terrified of them, and only have a presence when they go into their true forms. For newcomers though, yeah they might feel disappointed by him not being this uber scary guy 3. I also completely understand the camera switching thing too. I do think that this is just how Viv directs. I do think she has learned to tone it down, as the latest Helluva Boss episode (at the time of this comment) is great with the camera. I think season 1 of Hazbin just has this direction before she learned how to tone it down. Probably by season 2 it should be lessened or gone completely. 4. Lastly, yeah definitely think the first episode being the way you described it as might be due to Amazon wanting new viewers who have never seen the pilot before a chance to get caught up. To fans, this might be annoying, but I think it’s a necessary sacrifice so newcomers can get a chance to understand what’s going on. Still cannot wait for the show to drop the 19th I am dying over here!

[@Ty-v6v-c4r]

Idk, all the ring rulers are extremely powerful.

[@EasilyBoredGamer]

Disgaea songs in the background got me grooving Edit: ah shit and then a direct mention, this is the best news ive gotten since d7 was actually good

[@freakcircus6109]

'Husk is nobody's favorite' you underestimate the internet's love for alcoholic assholes, Pan. His design is really complicated, but eh, I dig it. I personally have always loved Lucifer's design ever since we saw him in that painting in the Pilot, and I still very much do. He's styled after a ringmaster, with all of the Hellaverse being circus-themed and all. Maybe the thought process was that the lines in his face would undermine Lucifer being considered 'the most beautiful of angels'. Obviously signs of aging don't make you ugly, but I understand why they felt he has to look like he's been in his 20s for thousands of years. I think it also contributes to the contrast between him and Charlie - she ages and matures, he stays the same. Lucifer looking a tad unassuming compared to other Ring leaders also works as a nice juxtaposition, because you just know in terms of sheer power he easily dwarfs the other 6. Plus, him being short is fun in itself because literal short king lol.

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

His design isn’t complicated, it’s cluttered and there’s a difference.

[@freakcircus6109]

@@aR0ttenBANANA No, I'm pretty sure it's complicated. And maybe cluttered to some.

[@umamifan]

I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

[@dunkev4152]

I just hope to GOD that the writing for Hazbin won't disappoint. Helluva has downgraded tremendously in that aspect since Season 2 and I'd hate to be met with underwhelming plots, chaotic pacing and juvenile humor, especially after waiting nearly 5 years for this.

[@tinybrownbird]

I'm feeling the same way. A show can be beautiful, but if the writing sucks it can snap you right out of it. Did you watch the last two episodes of Helluva Boss (the ones around Fizz and Oz's relationship)? I thought they were the best written episodes of the series so far, which was a big contrast from the episodes preceding them. Hoping the following episodes follow this trend!

[@bored_person]

Can you please form your own opinion instead of copying others? Also, those things you complain about are part of the style of the show and have always been there.

[@TransMascTrump]

@bored_person it is an opinion m0r0n

[@denysvision]

​@@TransMascTrump how is copying others an opinion?

[@Killer_Dynamo]

@@bored_person What if my own opinion *is* the same as most others? I don't find Helluva Boss funny, not because I've heard that other people also don't, but because I just don't find it funny. That doesn't matter anyway, it's just my opinion, I'm not gonna get annoyed at someone for thinking differently to me.

[@user-1dkWhYuc5R3-ab0ut_m3]

I thought that everyone got recasted because vivsi wanted people who did broadway musicals because that’s the atmosphere she wanted for her show

[@michikip45]

Just gotta say I can’t wait for your pilot, the snips you show are really interesting to me I love the art style and I’m curious about the humor!! Cant wait to see Loki IRL man 👌🏻

[@AnikiChad]

21 seconds in and my jaw dropped. glad to see you’re still the same ol pan i love

[@nellynels1410]

Been a big fan for many years, awesome video Pan! Please keep doing what you’re doing cause I love your content. I also love being informed on current animation news. I pray that your pilot gets green lit one day. You deserve to be in the field and I would love to see it ❤

[@Kodeb8]

If only this video came out two weeks later, Pan could've made a joke about Verbalase.

[@pristina4628]

Actually,Lucifer design represent best Lucifer itself.He supposed to be the shortest of all.After all,the most evil one are people who looks harmless in first look.Most serial killers looked like normal-regular guy who you would nobody guess that he would do terrible things.

[@fullmetalalcoholic6624]

Your grammar is atrocious and your opinion is stupid and wrong

[@bella_daze3092]

Huh. This makes sense😮

[@Ty-v6v-c4r]

What

[@Virolaxion]

four broken sentences = 120 likes

[@pristina4628]

@@Virolaxion sorry,not sorry but not all people are english speaker.wake up

[@Hitpoljo]

I'm glad you're still moving up, pan

[@vanveleca]

WHEN'S THE PILOT COMING OUT, PAN????

[@RebelTaxi]

Hopefully in a few months. It's the final stretch of animation. Hiring more people now. It's like 75% complete

[@sailoritaly]

@@RebelTaxiGood luck! Can’t wait to watch it!

[@561inurface]

I died at episode 6s title in the description XD

[@wisconsinking323]

I'm surprised Pan mentioned quibi when talking about his pilot because it shut down, unless Pan made a joke.

[@MinaNormato]

Thank you so much for doing a nonspoiler review. It means a lot and I can’t wait to see it. Also just to say, don’t know why, but Husk is my favorite character. I’ve always liked his design and he’s been my favorite since I saw the premiere all those years ago. No problem if he’s not everyone’s but I love the adorable cat, not to mention he’s voiced by one of my all time favorite actors, Keith David 🎉, but I love him and can’t wait to see his character in the show. But I can’t wait and again thank you for a spoiler free review. It’s nice 😊

[@YujiUedaFan]

He's a cat!? I thought he was a dog.

[@shawnlambides3898]

Your pilot is looking really good I can’t wait to watch your pilot

[@thebiggerfish8976]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who'd enjoy a Disgaea-style tactics RPG based off of this show....

[@googleitlol6590]

In concern about the new VAs, I believe that the creator has always had several broadway voices in mind, Alastor's new voice, for example, was actually what the creator had in mind while creating his character.

[@PeasRYummy]

Alex brightman voices sir pentious so don’t worry, he is there

[@nickbecerra9580]

I can tell from that one second clip, yup, that is Alex Brightman in all his greatness

[@SpookieSadie]

Why has it been so long since I got a videos of your suggested to me!! 😭 I’m happy to see a video of yours again.

[@Vibin_jellies]

“GET YOUR AGGRESSIVELY AVERAGE BODY OFF OF MEH” oh man I’m gonna love this when it comes out 💀

[@Artenesama]

Thanks!

[@RebelTaxi]

A yea thanksss

[@bella_daze3092]

1:57 I LAUGHED SO HARD HERE HELP😭😭😭 I don’t know why it’s so funny to me

[@RigbyIsTheMan]

Did anyone hear about the verbalase situation?

[@VeeMarcinistAlt]

???

[@VeeMarcinistAlt]

???

[@rubyrue702]

@@VeeMarcinistAlt verbalase paid 50k for someone to animate him getting chased down and fucked by charlie from hazbin hotel

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

"Due the credits not specifying who voices who" *ahem* Amazon's X-ray?

[@atomic3053]

12:58 I'm surprised there was no mention of Stamper here, dude was the OG voice of that snake dude wayy back when the pilot came out. The rabbit hole/drama with him is actually insane so it's the only voice I fully expected Vivzie to cut.

[@ivygirl9119]

Didn't Invader Zim influence the art style?

[@nicolasnamed]

As someone who was obsessed with Invader Zim to an unhealthy degree as a teen: Yes, Definitely, Absolutely Several characters in both HB and HH feel very "Invader Zim Shaped" to me

[@maximillianlylat1589]

Horvittz even voices a character in the sister show helleva boss

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

11:04 That art remind me art from a sega gane that i don't remember right now ....

[@ArekusaSan]

Ngl, I’m kinda a massive hater of Hazbin Hotel and Vivzie’s works for multiple reasons, but I respect your opinion as a fan of your stuff for almost a decade now. I appreciate the insight onto what’s released so far and can see the positives of this show I would’ve otherwise missed. I’m especially glad to hear about the pay dispute info from an actual industry animator, because I was struggling to find any credible opinions while searching on my own. One thing I feel like they could benefit from is better contrast between the characters, foreground objects, and backgrounds, since I have trouble processing what’s happening when they move; I’m reminded of the storyboard silhouetting you pointed out in your Breadwinners video. Great vid as usual!

[@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva]

Wait, why are you a hater of her and her work?

[@Sappysappster]

7:43 YOU KNOW BALL🤝🤝🤝 Also your artwork is genuinely really cool and stylish kyaaaa (I love how sharp it is!)

[@VixenSTRIKEfront]

0:33 quibi got disconnected after ten months of service

[@rattlethatanimation]

8:12 I love him so much 🥺 we need more footage

[@AnomalySource]

First side mission in 5 years

[@KhumoFiveTen]

Naur

[@muffinland8660]

I just want to point out that... 1. The problem is that these animators were offered $35 with the understanding that the animation would be very limited, only to be given complex shots. This was their reason for leaking the screenshot. 2. There's a difference between the budget of an indie cartoon and a large production like Hazbin, backed by a studio and full of expensive voice talent. 3. Frank Molier and Michael Kovach, the original voice of Angel Dust, have come out as agreeing that that's very low.

[@FatoRato6881]

ahhh~ u have a pet Axolotl ^_^ im happy 4 u

[@Pamela-dv7gb]

For lucifer if he isn’t look old it’s because he is an angel and angels are immortal

[@astarstargirl]

The fact that he even mentioned the voodoo thing solidifies pan as the realist cartoon reviewer on KZbin. been watching him for years and he only gets better with Time

[@Chefeluaniscolina]

There are a few scenes and dialogues that can be a bit problematic. While it doesn’t happen too often, some of the musical numbers and scenes tend to be overly busy, which can be distracting. This was actually a concern raised by some people when the trailer was released. Additionally, there are moments where the dialogue includes excessive swearing and sex jokes, which may feel unnecessary and added solely for shock value. It can detract from the overall enjoyment of the show.

[@murderman8578]

If they're only those scenes and not the entirely of the show than it'll be fine

[@Yasviele]

Giving the whole Hell thing, I don't mind at all, they shouldn't hold back, not with this series or to anyone

[@boshwa20]

@@Yasviele Yeah, except if they go too far, it will like a child who just learned how to swear

[@what3954]

@@Yasviele I 100% agree, but from a comedy-in-show-writing perspective you kind of have to have jokes with substance. Even with the crude humor of the show (and how funny it can be at times), if it was just swears and sex jokes the whole time it will get old VERY quick. Not saying they can't be funny without much substance, it just needs to be balanced with other jokes too.

[@Yasviele]

@@what3954 Yeah, I think it will depend on the characters, some of them are simply beyond saving (ironic considering the theme) and will always sound too offensive but the writes are capable of incredibly emotional and serious characters/themes too, as demonstrated by Hell of A Boss with Stolas for example

[@violetamet]

I'm hesitantly excited for this, because yay, indie animation has become official! But, I want the main character, Charlie, and her girlfiend Vaggie, have more love, in a sense, that the others, like Alastor and Dust get, character wise. I want to see her grow with potential. I love the idea and concept, it has a lot of potential, but sometimes I'm worried it may fall flat in some areas... Thanks for the review!

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Viv has a very well-known issue of focusing too much on male characters over female ones so who knows if you get your wish

[@violetamet]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 That's exactly why I'm so hesitant. It's great that this is actually happening, but I'm unsure if the female cast will be treated the same way as the male cast, and the male cast is extremely popular. Ah well, I hope some of my assumptions and thoughts are wrong. :s

[@frogglen6350]

indie animation has *always* been official. Every cartoon that you like started as an indie/experiment project

[@violetamet]

@@frogglen6350 You're right about that, I wasn't sure how to properly explain myself to be honest. Still cool though, to see something that started off from KZbin is now shown on a big company site. It will be good to see more of these sorts of things in the future.

[@STKHub]

You probably mean either mainstream/commercial, which are normally distinguished from indie projects (at least in film!). The main difference lies in what part of the industry produces some content, whether that be the extremely popular, influential, and tiny part, or the far less popular, much less financed, but majority share (World Film Communities Network). I think your initial comment made sense, though I hope maybe the "mainstream" label helps communicate your point more easily.

[@notAshildr]

I think we know who wrote the banner at 12:12... That banner's got Angel Dust written all over it.

[@-Rika]

Nice to see RebelTaxi have a cameo in this video

[@MistressMeloetta]

Does Amazon prime have the first five episodes up already?

[@STKHub]

19th, I think.

[@MistressMeloetta]

@@STKHub Then how did this person was able to watch the first five episodes already?

[@STKHub]

​@@MistressMeloetta Certain content creatots got early access.

[@alexbryda]

absolutely love the characters ever since the pilot, the new episodes feel a little rushed since amazon only gave them 8 episode seasons, it feels they are trying to rush tell a story that was meant to be a little more developed and longer, even just not having those last 2 episodes to make a full 10 episode season can take a hit on the pacing dramatically, especially in serialized media also we haven't yet met Satan in this universe which Viv said will show up eventually, and the recast was because they needed VA that could do the voice AND also sing, in the pilot each character had an acting and singing voice which is less streamline and probably way harder to get recordings done faster

[@ianbc4600]

Bruh when he mentioned tumblr I was like “I’m freaking dying”

[@kingj9664]

Great review man can't wait to watch the show and can't wait for your pilot series too

[@gosha-kun]

always appreciated ur content rebel

[@AtomicF0x]

9:42 First edition, original symbols? Yep, _those_ are gonna' be the expensive ones later down the line.

[@NJ-tm1vn]

Wow viv said Charlie was only an inch taller than Lucifer that is NOT an inch taller. And is Lucifer not knowing where Lilith is either?

[@ribottostudio]

I'm betting it had to do with this EVENT that happened 7 years prior. Charlie hasn't talked to her mom in that time. In the Status Quo song sung by Vox and Alastor, Vox mentioned Al hadn't been seen in 7 years. And this is an overlord who doesn't HAVE his own territory just wanders. So something huge must've happened.

[@NJ-tm1vn]

@@ribottostudio Yeah I know its weird both characters were gone for seven years and they are some of the strongest demons in hell.

[@RealSlendyBoi]

WAIT HOLD THE FUCK UP, WHEN DID THE FIRST 5 EPISODES DROP?! I thought they weren't dropping till the 19th?!

[@Just_a_gay_man.]

Some people get to watch it on the 18th base on the timeline. And early access people

[@OoMoo854]

So how many episodes are in season 1? It feels like itll be a short window to watch the show and probably a long wait for season 2

[@PapaJohnsPie]

He’ll yeaaaa pan pizza finally uploaded

[@MidnightDubstep]

I think i might be at the wrong channel I am lookin for Faketaxi

[@Elvusmiw]

It's a ok series so far. Alot of great cartoons started off ok to awesome. Let the artists cook

[@samuraiforever9120]

what's weird is I got into the show Fight Krewe it help me change my view on voodoo, what's weird is there is catholic voodoo which makes me ask why media makes it demonized or get simplified.

[@rosarolli]

Cause anti black racism

[@idiotsland242]

5:01 I didn’t know there was a evil dead musical

[@Whackeddude]

I kind of find it fitting that music from the game WHACKED was used in this video

[@Chibilisous]

I think for the argument about payrate, we tend to forget that this itteration of Hazbin Hotel was made for Amazon Prime. Those prices are alright for indie animation standards, but for a show being put on a major network? I would absolutely expect them to be paid more. Also the fact that they were paid less than working on Helluva Boss, a series actually still indie/on youtube, is completely backwards to me.

[@Smieska_13]

I tried so hard to like it, her style is the exact shit i loved and drew when i was a teen too, i was there in the 2000s on dA, i wanted so hard to like it. I cant fucking stand the character designs. It sucks because its making me hate the style of big eyes with the sharp evil smiling mouth, something i *loved* as a teen/young 20 something. They all have the same look to them, and its an eye sore to see the overly detailed characters against the overly detailed backgrounds. I get the whole 'thats the point' or whatever but fuck me its awful. Its like looking at my teen self who never grew up and learned about art and composition and just stayed stuck in her ways. Im glad an indie project got this far but its not excempt from the usual criticism for other animated shows. Its an eyesore.

[@firehound64]

been around here for years and i gotta say that pan has always beena funny guy but he's only gotten better with his many zingers over time, never change pan and i hope that show you're working on takes off.

[@nandotnt5678]

The length is the only problem I have, as nothing has the chance to breathe

[@tonyjim8053]

Of course rebel got early access same vibe haha

[@RebelTaxi]

Deviant Art Core

[@Cyburim]

9:09 😂 Needed that honestly you got more of a wheeze out of me then the first 2 episodes heh.... Also voodoo vince soundtrack yes!!!!!

[@neildematt4564]

Husk actually is my favorite character lol

[@Zebra_fandomfella03]

Sir Pentious 's new voice gave me Blackhat vibes

[@Wortwort-Spooderbat]

It's a official show now holy moly

[@Jordanhumanhedgehog]

14:46 Soon we all will see them before it officially goes public, because no doubt some "fans" will posts bits of it, if not the whole thing, online, ehehehe. Fun.

[@TheFormidibleDan]

I am here for Pan becoming a sudden Disgaea enjoyer!

[@SHINYA_CORE]

Husk at 10:42 had me dying for absolutely no reason it was so random & unexpected LMFAO

[@benistown4836]

THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING HONEST!!! thank you for staying true to you😭!! Thank you!! Amazing as always!!

[@ARandomPersonDoesArt]

I absolutely love how Lucifer is just obsessed with rubber duckies lol

[@abdelali9279]

hmm, what nice timing to release a review of hazbin hotel

[@scrambles7045]

Husk is my favorite character