Reboot is a Silly Word - Casino Royale (2006) || From Rewatch with Love Ep23

[@DM-kv9kj]

33:54 - Guys, he doesn't say "Listen to me", he's speaking in French - "Laisse tomber!", which means "Drop it!"

[@MaraK_dialmformara]

Historical note: “the bitch is dead” is how the book ends, when Bond discovers that that version of Vesper is a SMERSH agent, and that she killed herself over the conflict of interest between her love for Bond and her orders to kill? suborn? don’t really remember? him. For 99% of Casino Royale the Book, Bond is sympathetic, relatable, literally does not have the stomach for murder. This is where he dies inside and becomes, essentially, Sean Connery. The line doesn’t land as strongly in the movie, because M is determined to be his helpline (and good for her!), but it’s still a reasonable marker of “Bond has completed his emotional transformation into The Archetype Of Bond.”

[@skurge101]

But the whole process and arc is undermined imo by the insistance of connecting this as Bond's first mission (which it certainly wasn't in the book giving weight to his battle worn attitude)... The film gives the 30 something Bond the emotional sensibilites of a hapless teen (I'll literally murder for this job I immediately want to give up on my first real mission etc).

[@johnmorton6229]

@@skurge101 I’d agree to a point. It could be argued that not every mission has you partnered with a woman you fall madly in love with who then ultimately betrays you. It was like OHMSS. Bond had found something he’d been missing and was ready to be happy. He even told Vesper that whatever armor he had, she had stripped him of it. He’s just won over 150 million dollars and only had to give back 15 of it to the British government and probably however much Felix staked him in. He was set for life with the woman of his dreams, I’d give up whatever I had if that was an option. So I don’t think it was ever that he didn’t have the stomach for the job anymore, it’s just he thought he could move on to greener pastures.

[@skurge101]

@@johnmorton6229 "Her price is far above rubies, or even your million pounds." There is much evidence to support that Bond is not motivated in any way by Money (I suspect he ended up with none of it! ^^). The Book of CR has Bond jaded by his job even before Vesper enters the scene, so she ends up filling a role he effectively made up and that explains his professional blindness to her predicament....the film's determination to be 'Bond Begins' misses this vital aspect which fundamentally undermines both the character, his capabilities and the arc imo, this is compounded still further in QoS by the way Bond's words and actions are contradictory...he definitely left, he definitely was compromised and there is no credible way M could or should overlook that (at least not a competent M). Would that we were given such choices though normalizing the world of Bond too much causes it to cease to be that of Fleming and moves very much to the grey and dour world of Le Carre (RIP).

[@1Hadram1]

"For 99% of Casino Royale the Book, Bond is sympathetic, relatable, literally does not have the stomach for murder." Hell no. His exact thoughts of Vesper in the book "And now he knew that … the conquest of her body, because of the central privacy in her, would have the sweet tang of rape" James Bond in the books is a piece of shit.

[@FFKonoko]

@@1Hadram1 the worrying thing is that he'd still consider that "relateable"...

[@noahsark342]

Forget joking about the curse, now it's claimed the entire observatory from Goldeneye! It's growing more powerful!

[@duckrutt]

It's getting to be a real problem. First it was actors, then it was locations. All that's left is props and there are way to many Bond movies involving nuclear weapons to make me comfortable.

[@blofeld39]

@@duckrutt Don't worry; the Vulcan bomber and bomb sled props are confirmed to have rotted away in Kevin McClory's garden sometime in the 1980s.

[@nitehunter91]

​@@blofeld39 Maybe a bad spoof called "The Spy Who Hated Me".

[@blofeld39]

@@nitehunter91 I'm not even joking; there's photo evidence.

[@nitehunter91]

@@blofeld39 Gee...

[@wisconsinfirenerd]

ME AS THE TITLES BEGIN: I can't wait to see what cute little cartoon object is sitting on the table this week! ME A MOMENT LATER: Oh god I wasn't ready

[@thewonderdoc2999]

My thought when I opened this in the new tab was: "They would never put the CBT thing on the table right?"

[@karahughes7074]

CBT?

[@scottrichmond3333]

And now let's guess what the next object for Quantum will be! I'm going with the can of oil Bond gives to Greene

[@Winterpandacookies]

@@thewonderdoc2999 Oh right, that thing Alex mentioned in his 3rd playthrough of Receiver 2

[@pvthitch]

A douchebag?

[@Happymali10]

Best thing about the "My place is nearby"-Scene: Bond is told goodbye by the valet, whips around the tiny flowerbed or whatever, and the valet greets him.

[@Endocrom]

"A valiant attempt, Mr. Bond, but it appears that your hippos have lost their appetite ."

[@parkerjohn188]

To describe this movie as probably a large reason I’m listening to this podcast. Would be an understatement.

[@CinHotlanta]

This is also the one I thought of when I watched the Dr No. episode. I thought "this franchise has been through so much, I can't wait to see how much they enjoy Casino Royale."

[@jvanyai]

My top 5 anticipated reactions on hearing they were doing this show: 5. The game in NSNA 4. Shitting on DAD 3. All of Goldeneye 2. The end of OHMSS 1. All of this. I’ve not been disappointed.

[@justinmeade2327]

“Oh yeah!!!” Kook-aid style like Bond through the wall

[@KirbytronicWouldLiketoBattle]

The "Financial Action Task Force" sounds like a Homestar joke for the Cheat Commandos. "Reynold in the Financial Action Task Force Playset! File your Taxes! Requisition money for approved spending! Comes with British envoy Vesper!"

[@BooMannFoo]

They want to blow up the ocean!

[@torstikinnunen3801]

It's where Seth McDebit used to serve.

[@EricChoiniere]

Graham: This movie is long. Matt: 2 hours and 25 minutes. Me: *looks at episode length* ... Huh.

[@Winterpandacookies]

The some ppl in LRRcord has been graphing the movie time to FRWL time difference. Current total time diff average is 5 minutes. The trajectory also shows that at some point, Graham will just released the uncut episode/s

[@Winterpandacookies]

@@GazzyW007 The sheet lists the movie as being 2:24:11, so it is the closest at 30 seconds

[@drew7308]

Remember that Graham said they cut 2 minutes talking about the DVD menu, soooooo

[@Nick-fi9dg]

@@drew7308 #releasethewigginscut

[@gnetkuji]

@@Winterpandacookies And cost us Editor Matt's awesome inserts? I hope not.

[@TheBlazingSilver]

I maintain that League of Extraordinary Gentleman is an excellent movie that drops the ball in the last 15 minutes, and is remembered with far more scorn than it deserves.

[@RekkinOnTheInternet]

Agreed. A perfectly fine, fun, mid-2000s action-fantasy thing that is ultimately an enjoyable watch with some weird decisions here and there. An absolutely terrible adaptation of the comic, though.

[@T4G0E]

Like Keanu Reeves' Constantine, it's a good movie in its own right, but it just so happens to also be a really bad adaptation. I read the LoEG comics back in the day, I totally get how a fan would hate the film. But just judging it on its own merits, it's a fantastic, unique action-adventure movie.

[@EricChoiniere]

FilmJoy featuring their friend Mikey Neumann did a "Deep Dive" episode on the movie!

[@ignisdeus1142]

"Matt is assuming Le Chiffre has friends" --- Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you Matt G. for being awesome with the visual commentary as usual!

[@LightOfZeon]

Fun fact about the Skyfleet plane. This was supposed to be Airbus' big reveal of the A 380's final design, but the project ran over and the full sized prototype wasn't ready for filming. The production team knocked the engines off a 747 and strapped the nacelles from a B-52 on instead to make it distinct.

[@rovercoupe7104]

That would have brilliant. I am an Airbus fan. M.

[@LeviRamsey]

"The bitch is dead now" is the famous closing line from Bond in the novel. Among a large portion of Bond fandom (at least that portion on the internet), when it was announced that EON was doing Casino Royale, the big question was, "will they have Bond say that?"

[@andrewburgemeister6684]

The book had an even worse line which was internal monologue about Bond’s encounters with Vesper. “And now he knew that she was profoundly, excitingly sensual, but that the conquest of her body, because of the central privacy in her, would each time have the sweet tang of r*pe.” I’m sorry, SWEET TANG OF WHAT?!?!

[@TheAndrewmcnelis]

These review make Mondays so much better. Thank you.

[@tylernilson7021]

"this movie slaps from beginning to end" the sack torture seen really slaps

[@blofeld39]

The ballsack really slaps

[@Reboundary]

You might even say it was nuts.

[@mrphlip]

Movie length: 2:24:33 Podcast length: 2:24:40 It's a close call, but it looks like this is going into the "longer than the movie" column...

[@stephans1990]

It's not the first time, all of these podcasts are about as long if not longer than the actual movie they are talking about.

[@mrphlip]

@@stephans1990 Yeah, I'm aware, I was just making a point about how _close_ this one is.

[@Matt-nt2lm]

The gun barrel sequence/ intro to titles is one of the best things ever in a Bond film. The eerie strings from the gun shot giving way to the blaring horns of the song is top tier.

[@pillinjer]

If you do a James Bond game podcast should it be called: Live and Let(s) Play?

[@pillinjer]

Also there are far more James Bond games than I realised (and that’s not including the upcoming game from ioi)

[@GAD00SH]

I was thinking they missed on "a review to a kill"

[@PlebNC]

This needs to be a thing LRR does. They can take as long as they want to do it but I'd love it.

[@rockyradical]

At least the ones with actual storylines. Agent Under Fire, Nightfire, Everything or Nothing, Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, and Blood Stone. Leading up to the release of IOI's next game, the untitled 007 origin story video game.

[@zyderman2050]

@@GAD00SH I applaud you, sir

[@DeltaDemon1]

I'm fairly certain the ambassador says "Laissez tomber" which is French for roughly "drop it' and not "Listen to me"

[@thresherGnat]

That makes a bit more sense, thanks.

[@2nd3rd1st]

1:00:00 The inventor of the Bodyworks/Körperwelten plastination technology, Gunther von Hagens, has a cameo during this sequence as another example of "let's get the guy who invented the thing to do the thing for us".

[@lordmanimani-]

I used to watch Unskippable episodes on regular loops, so when I saw the villa at the end, I knew what was coming. When Mr. White got shot I had to bellow, "NOOO, MY FAVORITE LEG!" First one of these I've watched before listening to the ep, loved it, looking forward to more

[@davidhanson8880]

It's not just the Bond actors who are dying. The Arecibo telescope from the end of Goldeneye collapsed about a week ago.

[@Targisvear]

The curse of the podcast man, the curse...

[@thumper8684]

That was solid concrete!

[@Winterpandacookies]

@@thumper8684 Concrete sucks to maintain and if not taken care of properly starts deteriorating.

[@jimbrown5091]

I think the reboot term applies. All prior Bonds were loosely based on post- WWII Cold War and it's immediate aftermath, whereas this movie has explicitly given us a post-Soviet Bond...who was a Gulf War vet, not a WWII Royal Navy vet.

[@AmandaGroe]

Graham's enduring love for MST3K and Rifftrax makes me happy every time he brings it up

[@DaerkciwLuxa]

I stopped about 15 mins in and just watched casino Royale. That is one dang good movie.

[@jim546]

The plane that is the target in the bombing scene is stored at Dunsfold aerodrome, which is the site of the Top Gear test track. The plane can be seen in the background of many TG episodes still with the weird engines on it, and was used in a TG challenge once.

[@YirbyBond00Y]

Tonight on Top Gear I ride a leaking fuel truck around airport tarmac Hammond attaches a bomb to a security guard without him noticing And Richard attempts the world record for most car flips in a stunt in an Aston Martin

[@anthyman1]

Surprised that you didn't mention that Chris Cornell is absolutely belting out the refrain "You know my name" as the opening credits show actual Daniel Craig. That's what sells the whole "celebration" of the new bond actor

[@SamnissArandeen]

And it has a closeup of the blue eyes, as if to rub it in the faces of the haters.

[@thecolortwelve3784]

I remember not catching this in theaters and then going straight into quantum of solace without having seen this. I thought "oh well Bond films don't have continuity so it will be fine." ...I was a bit lost

[@austinmitchell2053]

“He’s the snake to my mongoose. Or the mongoose to my snake. I don’t know animals.”

[@mattsurridge9129]

Such a brutal choice of table prop lol

[@adcon00]

It's a scratching instrument

[@ChinashopRodeo]

The party really gets going when the Testickler comes out.

[@Manae.L]

I was wondering if they'd go with the chair, but they took it a step further.

[@OzPearsall]

I saw that when the episode started and had that moment of "OH, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOIN WITH, HUH?"

[@darrin7632]

It was definitely a choice that was made

[@karfsma778]

Me, before the episode: "wonder what the table prop is gonna be" Me, upon starting the episode: "Ah. The Rope."

[@Chyeld]

Just as an FYI, the scene in the stairwell where Bond and the African Warlord are fighting and all the doors are locked from the stairwell side is actually realistic. Most hotels and many office buildings are setup so that the only door unlocked on the stairwell side is the bottom floor as a security precaution and what might seem paradoxical, fire safety. In the event of a fire, the idea is that any exit onto another floor would be dangerous and thus should be blocked. The only 'safe' floor would be the ground floor. This was unfortunately part of the cause of many of the deaths during the arson attack on the Kyoto Animation Studios building as people ran to the stairwells to try to escape the fire but as the ground floor was blocked by the arson, were thus trapped and couldn't get out.

[@gnfnrf]

It's a reboot. It's a reboot because everything about this movie serves as an introduction to, and an origin story for, James Bond. Down to the very end, where we finally get the theme song, which tells us "Now he is Bond for real." You can only do an origin story like that in a reboot. Sure, elements carry over, like M. But it's a reboot.

[@LeviRamsey]

Re: the airport, buying a refundable ticket (especially business/first class) to get airside (e.g. to meet someone or go to a lounge) is viable, since fully refundable tickets are changeable/refundable until the boarding pass is scanned (i.e. you can check in, go through security, and cancel the booking). Someone like Bond who's traveling all over the world on an expense account, whether a secret agent or not, probably has accumulated unused fully-changeable tickets with most airlines. It would not be good cinema, however, to have Bond in the taxi calling British Airways or whatever to change that old ticket to a new F/J ticket so he can get a boarding pass to get through security.

[@shobhitsingh6330]

It is my guilty pleasure to listen to discussing bond movies, in one month all bond movies will finish. You guys should do rewatch of other movies as well.

[@germanyjones2700]

That end scene.. when the theme plays after he kneecaps mr white while he’s holding that machine gun on his hip while wearing *that fucking suit*.. chef’s kiss. Goosebumps every time.

[@MrDalevich]

Kind of bangs? KIND OF BANGS?!? Oh, LRR....it does more than 'bangs'. It takes your face and shoves it back into your own face and then makes both faces scream into each other until they both melt away into a kind of well rocked froth.

[@germanyjones2700]

That moment in the podcast when Graham guesses Matt’s placement of the movie in the overall list was wonderful. These have been a ton of fun, thanks boys :)

[@nickr1818]

BEEN. WAITING. FOR. THIS. SINCE. THE. B E G I N N I N G!

[@Luvie1980]

Me too

[@Aiijuin]

Ditto.

[@N8Maple01]

Now for Skyfall

[@EllieODaire]

It's really quick but my favorite Bond moment in this film is when the bomb maker throws his gun at Bond on the crane and Bond catches it and throws it back.

[@paulcarmi8130]

It's one of the best openings for any action movie

[@Yora21]

I've never seen a single movie getting CPR right, and it's always infuriating. It's such a simple thing, and movies consistently teach people falsehoods. Most movies show people whose heart has stopped getting back up by themselves, which just doesn't happen. If the heart stops, chest compressions only keep the blood circulating until medical help can arrive. It does not restart the heart. (Though if the heart is still beating, breathing sometimes can resume by itself. But then you'd not be doing chest compressions.) The crime in this movie is that Bond just gives up for no reason. The overall chance for survival for one minute without breathing is 90%, and she only inhaled water without suffering from internal injuries or heart conditions, so her chance would be even better than that. And this is the middle of Venice, in the middle of the day, where a residential building just collapsed. Emergency responders should be there in two or three minutes. He'd just have to keep going for that long and she'd almost certainly have survived.

[@FFKonoko]

I think the trick is, there's supposed to be more time passing than literally happens. Both before he gets her out, and after.

[@ablotupontheearth7513]

I think he gave up. He knew the truth and let her have her death that she chose.

[@justinmeade2327]

“The bitch is dead”

[@conkshellthegeek7]

"With shotguns??????????" might be my favorite of the caption gags in this podcast, altough "GET LOST IN HIS EYES." also ranks highly. Y'know what, Matt G. just did a great job on this one in general I think. My compliments to the editor.

[@LightOfZeon]

They did it! They made an episode tye exact length of the movie. Achievement get.

[@GreatgoatonFire]

I can understand why some people call the Craig-era a reboot. It's pretty radically different in tone and Craig being a "new" James Bond adds to that feeling.

[@sodaaddict2225]

I think I need to rewatch this. I only saw it once in high school, and my memory of it is possibly soured by the subsequent movies.

[@Grizabeebles]

Here's a thought: Maybe Bond films form "cycles" like the Norse eddas or something. The Brosnan films, for example, are all explicitly about the past coming back to haunt the present. Even Tomorrow Never Dies is loaded with callbacks to previous films and Bond running into characters from his past. If anything, Bond is the embodiment of the status quo coming to squash anyone audacious enough to upset the delicate balance of world power.

[@landiahillfarm6590]

Eva Green - The witch in Dark Shadows with Johnny Depp, a part that she absolutely OWNED!

[@shobhitsingh6330]

They did not mentioned that the way he puts Demetrios onto a seat after killing him at 1:00:15, is reminiscent of Bond killing the villainous bond girl in Thunderball where he keeps her body on a chair and tells the people that 'she's just dead'

[@kato1kalin]

Probably where commando got it from the plane scene in the beginning.

[@MonsterTeegs]

"this movie is long!" *Looks over at Lord of the Rings Extended edition beside me* Hmm yes

[@TrainerCTZ]

I always had issue with 50 ft Venice villa sinking to roof in essentially a canal which is max 15 ft deep.

[@Paxford0502]

This one is my favourite. This is the movie that took a long hard look at Bond and said "you know, that's gotta mess a guy up." It's right there from the opening sequence and song: "if you take a life, do you know what you give?" Some people aren't here for that kind of navel-gazing. But to me, this is the movie that looked at Bond as a person who sacrifices a lot for his country. And it's the movie that really, utterly gutted me. OHMSS may have been the opening salvo of sadness, but the scene where Vesper kisses Bond's hands underwater, trying to calm him down so their last moment together is not filled with anger and sadness...ugh. I adore this movie.

[@AnInnocuousBlueCube]

He's not just 'First German', he's one of the Nazis that Magneto murders. to. death. in the bar during the Tarantino film stuck inside the Marvel film.

[@jessie-buns839]

I'm guessing the reason Bond and Vesper go up to Le Chiffre's room is that he was being threatened and Bond was under orders to bring him in alive

[@DarkAkaros]

As soon as they got to the point where Bond shoots Mr. White's leg (2:09:08), all I could think about was Graham and Paul back on Unskippable shouting "Owwwhhhh, my favorite leg! How did they know?!" God I miss Unskippable. Link for the nostalgic: v1.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/690-Quantum-of-Solace EDIT: God. This was 11 years ago. LRR has been with me for at least 11 years.

[@alexashton6501]

Hearing Graham very eloquently say "bitch better have my money" was significantly funnier to me than it had any right to be...

[@SirZapdos]

I always thought the "that slimy bugger" was M talking about Bond, pretending he was on vacation with no leads but in fact on the job and picking up a good trail.

[@BigDaddyBland87]

I also had that reaction to "the bitch is dead" when I first saw this but...fun fact...that was most likely an homage to the Casino Royale novel. Much like the movie, Bond is tortured by La Chiffre, saved by enemy agents, recovers in a hospital where he and Vesper fall in love. She commits suicide and leaves a note to Bond explaining everything (pretty much like M does in the movie). However, in the book, once he finds her and reads the note, he calls his boss and the novel ends with "The bitch is dead now". Once I read the novel, that line made a lot more sense.

[@blofeld39]

It's literally the final line of the novel. There is no moment after that where Bond realizes Vesper has sent him a posthumous trail to follow -- because there IS no posthumous trail. She just flat-out lied to him the whole time.

[@stephans1990]

A note to the Ford Fusion scene; this was not supposed to be Ironic. It was just product placement. If I recall correctly, Ford paid like 20 MLN Dollars to have James Bond drive a Ford Fusion in that scene.

[@MAMoreno]

Even beyond the prequel-y pre-credits sequence, we have James Bond meeting Felix Leiter for the first time, when he had already done so in the very first Bond film. Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton didn't have to be introduced to Felix Leiter. The assumption was that they had already met him . . . in Dr. No. (In fact, Moore even knew Quarrel's son!) So too, General Gogol appeared in The Living Daylights, implying that The Spy Who Loved Me was still very much in continuity despite the recasting. Casino Royale is a reboot in a way that no other Bond's first film was. Not even Goldeneye, which shared almost no overt continuity with previous films beyond the Bond-Q dynamic, actively contradicted or replaced the events of its predecessors.

[@spenser9908]

GoldenEye specifically mentions there’s a new M, plus we have to get Felix’s replacement with Jack Wade. So it’s not a reboot, it’s a definite continuation. Brosnan is the same Bond who fought Dr. No. It’s all there.

[@JackRabbit9181996]

Yes! I've been waiting to dip into the current era of Bond films. Casino Royale (this one) was the first Bond movie I remember loving, and Daniel Craig has been one of if not my favorite Bond's ever since.

[@MrDalevich]

It sort of is the same location as Naboo. They were both shot on Lake Como in Italy. Good spot.

[@rexxraul]

"Tasteful Zebra Art" cracked me up, this series is constantly great with it's editing, kudos folks!

[@Wreckonning]

The first time I watched Casino Royal, I caught it on TV. I only flipped over to it when the venice part started, and thought I was watching the beginning. I thought "Oh, this is actually pretty good", right up until the credits started rolling.

[@thesoundofwhitenoise2122]

Since the Brosnan era, it really feels like the innovation has left the Bond franchise. With Connery and Moore, they were the trendsetters with physical stunts and movie technology. Always going after the latest thing they could get their hands on. And with the Brosnan era, it just really feels like they were chasing trends in film making, never really pushing the envelope. This is in stark contrast with Lucasfilm, who were (and still are) constantly innovating, for better or worse. Constantly pushing the limits of technology. From massive models to green screen and CGI. Always seeing how far they can push technology, and seeing what works and what doesn't. Fully CG characters, movies practically entirely filmed in green screen environments (even if in Episode 2, you can very clearly see shades of green in character's hair) and now with The Mandalorian, practically entirely eliminating green screen with The Volume (There is an amazing behind the scenes documentary on Disney+ where they explain The Volume, Disney Gallery; Star Wars: The Mandalorian), which is basically a set with a massive monitor around it, where background graphics are rendered onto in real time using a game engine, and setting the camera as 1st person perspective. It is truly amazing. But back on topic, since Brosnan, Bond has just felt as something from the past. A studio where the spark went out and no longer does anything new, just reuses things other people have done and chasing trends several years after the fact. It is a shame.

[@kato1kalin]

Bodies is one of the most fascinating exhibitions I've ever been to. Seeing an actual circulatory system was mind blowing.

[@leijen208]

I am going to miss this when they finish them all. The banter, the behind the scenes stuff, the graphics, etc. This has been such a fun ride for one of my favorite franchises. Can we do this for Marvel and Star Wars?

[@9brightshiners]

Bless the editor - the comments over the lingering shot of Daniel Craig's eyes at the end of the title sequence made me cackle remembering how flustered everyone was over how pretty DC's eyes are, when this movie first came out.

[@Kameth]

"You can't have Daniel Craig as Bond! He is blonde, no Bond!" *Daniel Craig intensely smoulders into camera* "I hearby withdraw all my objections as I need to self reflect on some... internal questions."

[@MrPooleish]

This was the first Bond film I saw in theaters. I love it to pieces.

[@scotthix2926]

52:37. Craig cut his foot on a shell or rock. So he was mad and walked back to shore. The cameraman kept rolling. It was supposed to be the girls scene but with Craig walking out he stole the scene.

[@TehFrenchy29]

There was also a sudden sandbar there which made the water significantly more shallow than expected. So he comes up out of the water and we get "the reveal" in a way that was further totally unintentional.

[@grahamrichardson9620]

God, this movie is so great. You guys make make me look forward to Mondays, bless you.

[@Derek_Smallshorts]

Le Chiffre doesn't have asthma; the inhaler is a hang-up from the book; it's a benzedrine inhaler. Oh, and that Skyfleet plane WAS a miniature with people composited in.

[@emkerr90]

The simultaneous Frozen reference made me very happy, thank you 😆

[@Dark3y3]

On how crazy that last hand of the poker game was, I personally have had a crazy hand that local people talked about for years. First table of the tournament, I had pocket queens and I'm first bet after big blind. I raised pre flop to get all the trash hands out. The flop comes out, 6 6 6. I'm first bet, and I bet like I have the 4th six. Everyone drops till the last bet on the table, who raises. I expect he is wanting to call my buff so I go all in. He goes all in, which makes me think "rut roh raggy". I show my pocket queens. He flips an Ace 6 and quips, "I think my kicker wins it". We all think it's over, but go through the motions of the turn and river. Burn, Queen, Burn Queen. I won with 4 queens against 4 sixes.

[@Happymali10]

The Boeing used for filming is parked at an airfield in england (where top gear used to be made), with the dual dummy engines still attached. There are actually real aircraft with 2 engines per pod, but these are mockups. Also, the stunt-sequence was filmed like 4 weeks apart because they couldn't get one stunt (with the bus) to work right. Also note at 1:07:15 the aircraft in the background. That's why Branson was in the movie.

[@Jabrwock]

1:28:00 it could also be a boss move, like "I know you have a bottle of this stuff that isn't made anymore". Like insisting on a specific year of wine.

[@benjamindickel3868]

I never thought of the relationship between M and Bond in this as maternal. Seems like a big inspiration for Archer.

[@Indef_K]

I had always took the 'Bond coming out of the sea' shot as a response to Halle Berry's from the previous film.

[@The_FlyingDutchman]

1:39:50 I always read that differently. That Le Chiffre explicitly fabricated the tell to throw bond off, and that the the expression was more general annoyance that bond was still in.

[@user-oh8vh3yi1p]

TheFlyingDutchman been a long time since I’ve seen it, but I recall rationalizing that it was his actual tell, but he was faking it throughout the game until Bond actually rattled him and he caught himself doing it unconsciously

[@skuddstevens]

So, the Bond theme never plays in its entirety prior to the final scene of the film, but there IS a subtle musical cue during the car defibrillator scene. Just after Vesper presses the button, as James starts to regain consciousness, the first four notes of the Bond theme play.

[@Blackadder125]

Is Seth McDebit on the Financial Action Task Force?

[@lysanderbluestone9600]

Great episode! At the time I didn't quite like the movie but I have started to like it more after revisiting for this show. I feel like Le Chiffre had manufactured the tell as a second-level bluff, just so he can trick people to think he's bluffing. And then he accidentally does it after the I-Know-You-Know scene, to show how out of sorts he is with losing.

[@ablotupontheearth7513]

I started with this one and watched the Craig ones. Went back and watched all the old ones with you guys, came back to this and this film and this Bond is still my favorite. I don't get how people don't like Craig as Bond. Maybe I'm a sociopath, but this is my Bond.

[@DM-kv9kj]

I liked him in Casino Royale, but ever since then he's become more and more robotic, constantly miserable and just feels more like some Russian henchman than 007. His movies just became more boring and full of annoying characters. Even the new Q is an over-acted twerp of a character, and I like Ben Wishaw. Craig's had his moments for me, but honestly I can't wait to see someone new in the role.

[@duckrutt]

I think that's normal. The first version you experience sets the expectations for whatever media you are consuming. Maybe expectations is the wrong word but I'm very tired and probably shouldn't be typing this right now. Anyway as a couple examples Roger is my bond and Tom Baker is my Dr. Who. It doesn't always work like that so a counter example is Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt is now my definitive version of that song.

[@futuremovieactor]

The ambassador didn’t actually say “Listen to me”. He said a word that sounds like that that I believe actually means: “Drop it”, “Put it down” or “Let him go”. Can’t remember which right now.

[@blofeld39]

"Laissez tomber." Let go of your weapon, in French.

[@EricChoiniere]

@@blofeld39 More literally "Drop it", but to the same effect.

[@blofeld39]

@@EricChoiniere Merci. :-)

[@SupremeFenix274]

I believe in the scene with the Nambutu ambassador outside the embassy, he doesn't say "listen to me", he says "Laissez tombez", which is french for "drop it", referring to Bond's gun.

[@judyhopps9380]

The Daily Express had an article on the Graves actor being the most frequent bond actor after your last podcast. Good to know journalists are padding out their resume by pilfering your hard work.

[@Taschenschieber]

Ah yes, the "hard work" of looking up a thing on IMDB. (Also, they didn't even bring up that the guy was the "most frequent" Bond actor, they just talked about the duration of his tenure.)

[@judyhopps9380]

@@Taschenschieber are you the lazy daily express journalist?

[@futuremovieactor]

This is clearly a James Bond starting out fresh though and an M who’s been at this for much longer than she was when introduced in GoldenEye. Also, the Daniel Craig films definitely have their own stable and clear storyline throughout too.

[@calumcameron6355]

Man, I kinda hate myself for being this guy, but - "A Doctor Who character" is really NOT the reference you're looking for when trying to describe how pre-Craig Bond continuity works. The point of Doctor Who's regeneration gimmick is precisely to let them maintain that the Doctor is still the same person even though they've been around since the 60s and gone through multiple actors. Up until the start of Casino Royale, Bond is/was more like a Marvel Comics character - you're more or less supposed to assume that the events of previous stories broadly happened at some point, BUT deliberately not think about the discrepancies in time period. When Pierce Brosnan's Bond recognises the jetpack from Thunderball, the audience is more-or-less supposed to assume the jetpack scene from Thunderball happened to him, at some point, like, presumably several years ago, and just not worry about the question of when exactly that was and how old that makes him - much like how Iron Man comics still depict him as being maybe pushing 40 at most but the reader is still expected to assume that the famous "building the suit to escape a warzone" plot happened to him more-or-less as shown, and just deliberately not think about the fact that, as originally published, the warzone in question was 1960s Vietnam. The reason people call Casino Royale a reboot is because it - for the first time - explicitly CHANGES how the continuity is meant to work, declaring this to be Bond's first adventure (meaning none of the previous ones happened in ANY form) and setting up a system going forward where every film is supposed to be following on directly from the events of the previous one, exactly as shown (mostly to the series's detriment, so far, so it remains to be seen how long they'll keep trying to make that system work before going back to Comic Book Time Logic).

[@celebalert5616]

Exactly, this is such a good way of explaining it! Also kind of similar to the logic of the Simpsons which has a similar kind of floating timeline.

[@mikemoritzgamer]

Also M is EXPLICITLY different. Craig Era M is a cold war spymistress who was section chief in Hong Kong in 97. Brosnan Era M is an analyst who has to learn to appreciate Bonds cold war relic way of spying

[@chifii]

1:26:00 You gotta love Graham's "Swiss" (by way of New Dehli) accent.

[@Taschenschieber]

Baccarat is apparently not a very skill-based game, so the entire plot makes a lot more sense when changing the game to Poker.

[@MrJay-be9wh]

Baccarat is very much just a more sophistocated Blackjack. That said, the movie does a horrible job with Poker and the entire resolution is basically Bond making an absurdly stupid bet that he gets astronomically lucky with. Baccarat would also be simpler for the audience.

[@futuremovieactor]

What I’m trying to say is that the argument for every EON film from Dr. No to Die Another Day being its own continuous universe can be made even though it gets pretty messy at times.

[@MAMoreno]

It certainly grows weaker during the Brosnan era (where the nods to previous Bond eras are typically homages rather than narrative links), but before that point, the continuity is certainly present. * FRWL explcitly references Dr. No, Goldfinger explicitly references FRWL, and Thunderball explicitly references Goldfinger. * TSWLM, FYEO, and Licence to Kill all reference OHMSS quite directly. * LALD features Quarrel Jr. instead of Quarrel to retain continuity with Dr. No. * TMWTGG and Moonraker both bring back a notable supporting character from the previous movie. * General Gogol's behavior in FYEO, Octopussy, AVTAK, and TLD is informed by the events of TSWLM. There are only two places where it gets fuzzy: 1. The relationship between YOLT, OHMSS, and DAF. 2. Dalton's de-aged 007. The first one is largely solved by moving DAF before OHMSS (if that's even necessary) and by assuming that Bond's and Blofeld's disguises in OHMSS are more convincing to everyone in the movie than they are to the audience. The second one is explainable with the old sliding timescale (which also makes room for Brosnan's Bond).

[@Gamingnstuff131]

Such a massive improvement over the dire Die Another Day. To think it came out 4 years after and turn out as excellently as it did really shows the way the series can bounce back in such a huge way after hitting rock bottom.

[@brockenglish7602]

I think people say the Craig films are a reboot mostly due to Skyfall where classic Bond elements that are always there are put into place. It's not until that movie that you finally get Q and Moneypenny and Bond is meeting them for the first time.

[@Bucketroo]

I was working at a mobile game studio when this movie came out, and had been testing a Texas Hold'Em game extensively. So I was ready when I went to see Casino Royale with my brother in theaters, and wound up explaining the game to him (quietly) during the movie. This is an awesome movie. Even the trailer for this movie is awesome.

[@gary6514]

Casino Royale is the greatest ever Bond movie. Nothing compares with the sheer excitement and scope of this superb film. A masterpiece pure and simple.

[@MrDalevich]

Not long before this Craig was in Layer Cake and there's a scene in that with Colm Meaney which is pretty much his Bond audition tape. It's brilliant.

[@scottrader7498]

Casino Royal is my #1 favorite Bond film. I absolutely love it.

[@Kameth]

Fun fact: the car flipping was not the DBS. Aston Martin were not keen on having the brand new DBS being utterly wrecked, so they agreed to sub in a Vanquish instead.

[@vegas_party_animal7737]

Anyone else wonder if all cinema dialog goes down in quality when at the Attack of the Clones villa? It’s because of all that damn sand

[@Billis75]

We had Bodies: The Exhibition here in Las Vegas (at the Luxor) for quite a long time.

[@Targisvear]

Matt "the ferret" Wiggins: "Hello!" Oh Matt G. you are SAVAGE. Edit: Mongoose but point stands.