At Least It's Short - Quantum of Solace (2008) || From Rewatch with Love Ep24

[@futuremovieactor]

M’s monologue about “We have people everywhere” not intended to be so literal is priceless.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Right? I don't remember liking much about this movie, but I LOVED that scene!

[@awalton]

Only the second best line in the movie, but for Felix's one note "Sorry." (As if to say "I'm sorry James Bond is going to kill you," while simultaneously feigning ignorance of his existence.)

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Priceless in how embarrassing it was. How the head of the secret service shocked that there could be double agents in MI6 ? She wasn't shocked about Vesper and yet she was devastated that her bodyguard that you see for approximately five second was a double. Where is the capable head of intelligence from Die Another Day and Casino Royale ? Why is this ignoramus here ?

[@Taschenschieber]

@@ricardocantoral7672 Vesper wasn't a MI6 agent. She did not go through the same amount of vetting M's bodyguard did. As to why M is more affected bay a thing happening right next to her than by a thing happening to one of her employees like 1000 kilometers away should be pretty obvious.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@Taschenschieber There are always bound to be doubles in the spy business regardless of what position they hold. M ranting like a senile old woman over this revelation is embarrassing. Just one of the many dumb things about Quantum.

[@Paxford0502]

Just gotta say, Mondays will not be the same when this wonderful podcast comes to a close.

[@Bloodn0k]

Maybe they'll do a dune podcast?

[@kizikucalegon8673]

That's what the Rewatch Rewatch Podcast is for.

[@gmosphere]

Do you think, as a bonus, they could cover the Austin Powers movies?

[@zacharyantle7940]

And how have they been now? Lol

[@leijen208]

I started the whole thing over again 😂. I need them to do Star Wars

[@SirZapdos]

The hotel attendant who almost gets raped by the General is played by Oona Chaplin, Charlie's granddaughter, who is probably best known for her role as Talisa in Game of Thrones. She was also in an episode of Black Mirror, the one with Jon Hamm (fantastic episode). Also, I completely missed it the first time, but during the opera scene, one of the Quantum members mentions "the Canadian", which sets up the end of the movie with Corrine. Also, I really love one of M's lines back at the hotel: "I think you're so blinded by inconsolable rage that you don't care who you hurt. When you can't tell your friends from your enemies, it's time to go."

[@benjamindickel3868]

I love the part where Camille is like 'You are suspiciously musclebound for a geologist' because every other Bond blends in and uses convincing covers

[@VAB0L0]

"Two teachers on sabbatical... who won the lottery" was so good

[@dylanthomas2393]

Stranger than Fiction is one of my favorite movies of all time and I was not expecting to hear it get mentioned but I’m so glad to hear it get appreciated.

[@empath69]

I've been thinking about watching that film for several months, and this is the deciding vote I needed; watching it tonight!

[@futuremovieactor]

Dylan Thomas Stranger Than Fiction is great. I totally agree.

[@camerondomer]

I liked the villain's plans, with the organization having "control all the water" as it's evil scheme. They mention the "Canada Project" at the Opera, which makes sense along those lines. Access to fresh water is important and increasingly threatened, so cornering the market on it in the short (Bolivia) and long (Canada) term makes evil sense.

[@vegas_party_animal7737]

Stranger Than Fiction is such an underrated film! Not enough people talk about that damn good movie. Seeing Will Ferrell play a more dramatic role was such a nice change and I can’t believe how good he was acting that kind of role

[@TheHarrisonator]

I still giggle everytime drax the droopy dog is brought up. Thank you Matt G

[@CLY994]

I must say, this podcast has become one of my favorite moments of the week along with my own rewatch of the series. Thanks guys!

[@SamuelThomasFraser]

Thank you SO MUCH for giving context to the whole "Daniel Craig wants to slash his wrists" thing, Graham. I've been saying the same for YEARS, and it feels like I'm the only person who ever read past the headline. So frustrating.

[@futuremovieactor]

“The Americans are not going to be happy about this.” “I promised them Le Chifre and they got Le Chifre.” “They got his body.” “Wanted his soul they should’ve made a deal with a priest.”

[@Voidhawk42]

TBH, I had issues with that in Casino Royal. Bond wins the game, says to Felix "he's all yours", and goes to dinner with Vesper. Enough time then passes for them to have dinner, LeChifre to get to Mathis's phone and organise Vesper's kidnapping and Bond to chase after her and also get kidnapped. Where was Felix and the CIA during this time period? Shouldn't Felix be giving LeChifre the "offer he can't refuse", rather than let him keep roaming around doing villain stuff? Or at the very least have someone tailing him, so he doesn't just try and make a run for it? I always felt Felix fumbled the hand off something vicious there.

[@tgva8889]

Yeah wait hold on why didn't they actually GET Le Chifre? Why did he have the opportunity to capture Bond at all?

[@mikeoliver6742]

@@tgva8889 and @Voidhawk42 I do believe that is what Hitchcock would call "refrigerator logic".

[@ricardocantoral7672]

I guess that's clever dialogue in some alternate universe.

[@nevaehphobia2263]

@@tgva8889 Because Casino Royale is not a very well written or paced film.

[@andrewsenseigames]

Mistook the Q on the table as the oil can’s rip tab. Thought “Uh-oh. They disliked the movie so much they drank the oil.”

[@0lderSch00l]

OMG! I almost choked when I read this!

[@rockyradical]

I like your interpretation better.

[@nerothewizard]

Horse = Metaphor. Metaphorse.

[@LateToThaParty]

I've started rewatching the Rewatch series from the start while trying to keep up with the latest Rewatch.

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

Then your posting name is amazingly apt?

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

I remember with the opening car chase, I decided to play a game to see how long the cuts were on average. You know how you can measure seconds by going "1 one thousand, 2 one thousand, 3 one thousand, ect?" In my head I kept going "1 one- 1 one thous- 1- 1 one tho-1- 1- 1- 1 one-" After getting through the entire opening scene without being able to finish even a single second count in my head, and getting a mild headache, I determined that I was probably not going to like this movie but maybe I would be pleasantly surprised if I stuck it out. *sigh* Well, at least I was right the first time. But who knows, maybe it'd be different if I watched it again? Eh.

[@nmo6460]

I'm rewatching Quantum and just noticed that one of the Members at the opera is Martin the dad from Friday night dinner!

[@TheMrolio22]

If Daniel Craig has a steely demeanor in this movie playing Bond, does that make him....... Steely Dan?

[@mhutt333]

I was sad you didn't mention some of the best parts with Camile. I liked that in the water cave with Bond, when Bond realises Camile's revenge intention, he unreservedly apologises for 'saving' her when it wasn't wanted. And there is no comment backfrom her undercutting that. Then when Camile gets her revenge, I also think the implication is not just she's trapped physically in a childhood nightmare, but as she's probably spend her whole adult life working towards this revenge, once she gets it, she's also mentally reverted back to childhood. She's got nothing left to live for. Which makes the hand over scene about helping the people later a nice arc. There's the nice if grim scene then when Bond is comforting her just before they escape, but you have to wonder if seeing someone he admired as an equal basically reverting like that once thy got their revenge was the final push for him to not just got for his own revenge? Also, you didn't mention that with the final kiss, Camile has the 'what are you doing' reaction, and Bond is left with the 'wait, isn't this what always happens' reaction when she then pulls away and leaves She's like the first woman aside from M that Bond has had any sort of adult platonic relationship with, and I wish she had been able to come back in that light - as a woman he actually respects as a fellow agent and person who he can't flirt with. A shame for both her and Felix in fact! They both were interesting characters for the Craig Bond.

[@MickeyLeeBukowski]

Yes! Their "relationship" is the thing I like about this movie the most.

[@josephcharpak4533]

Interesting. So she should have been Moneypenny in the next film?

[@mhutt333]

@@josephcharpak4533 Bond and Moneypenny have a different energy, there is the flirtation (still with the new one in the next film) so I don't think Camile appearing another time would have intruded on that dynamic.

[@Veelofar]

Is it weird of me that I've always dreamed of being one of the women in the opening titles of a Bond movie? I think it would be really cool.

[@GrazyX13]

I think it would be funny if Daniel Craig was dancing in silhouette in a bond movie

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@GrazyX13 Craig was a golden statue surrounded by tentacles in SPECTRE so a dancing silhouette isn't a stretch.

[@TWilko234]

Regarding the different chases in the film apparently the director wanted to have chase/fight scenes that represented 'the four elements'. So Earth is the car/foot chase at the start. Water is the boat chase. Wind is the plane chase. Fire is the final fight. NO clue AT ALL why he wanted this but...it's a thing that he did...

[@Targisvear]

Because as Matt Griffith jokes in the edits, IT IS A METAPHOR. This film has too many metaphors. Too much just done for metaphors.

[@akamikeym]

A metaphor for what the band Earth Wind and Fire?

[@Treblaine]

So many different chases, I forgot all of them. This director's vision for action scenes is just so wrong.

[@FFKonoko]

@@Targisvear that's not a metaphor though...

[@superkeaton9912]

Absolutely baffled that Another Way to Die gets praised but You Know My Name gets a meh response. Can't stand AWtD but I listen to YKMN all the time.

[@jimhawking11]

Same, different tastes I guess.

[@mischaaravena150]

Couldn't agree more, AWTD is at the bottom end of bond songs

[@SGrahamArt]

I was looking forward for them to rip this song to shreds. Very confused it's so popular!

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Both are pretty damn bad but Another Way To Die out stinks You Know My Name.

[@Manae.L]

As I understood it, they both like "You Know My Name" in concept, but they also both just don't like Chris Cornell's singing.

[@Bojack727]

Re-watching this for the first time since seeing it in the theater in 2006, the benefit of hindsight has helped me to understand what this film was trying to accomplish. It's very different from what we expect from these films, and I get the feeling that Marc Forster's intent. Everything, from the soundtrack to the story and tone, are aiming for something far more emotional and grounded. I personally like the idea that the master plan of the villain is to exploit a suffering people in a single country for financial gain. Green is memorable, because he shows that *anyone* can be the bad guy of someone's story.

[@karlstone297]

Idk why I didn't start watching these until the Casino Royale episode but now I've gone through all of them and have started watching the movies I hadn't see and am having a blast. Watched OHMSS with my father and we had a good time.

[@Happymali10]

The opening chase got unintentionally expensive, because a production assistant supposed to move one of the Hero-Cars (the "good" Aston Martins) between locations in the tunnel lost control and drove it into the lake.

[@drew7308]

I would wager the reason the “Hotel” exists in the storyline would be one of those expensive destinations things. “You can say you spent the night in the driest place on earth” or an “all inclusive get away from civilization package”. I dunno, some people pay big money for that. I’d be down just to see the stars.

[@judyhopps9380]

no tourist sites nearby, and no sleep from the hum of nuclear reactors in your bedroom. Not going to lie, it'll be a tough sell.

[@kristerkowalski5125]

Its not actually a Hotel. Its were the people, who work at the nearby observertory live. Which seems pretty nice actually.

[@judyhopps9380]

@@kristerkowalski5125 but in the movie I mean

[@HS_Gomikubi]

I can definitely see the starscape being a selling point that manages to land for the typical snobby image associated with obscenely wealthy people, it gets to be expensive af because it's exclusive. There are probably folks who pay out the nose to travel to Antarctica just to be able to say they're been there, and a location like this essentially has the same appeal. Completely impractical, but an aesthetically pleasing milestone for some.

[@LieutenantAmerica]

There's a hotel made of salt in a salt flat in the real world. so that kind of clientele definitely exists.

[@struanrobertson7128]

21 seconds ago, i live for this podcast

[@damianstellabott3613]

I'm sad that we're running out of movies cause I'm really looking forward to hearing you guys every week.

[@Firestar4041]

Like just the back to back quips of; "Well i think sombody wants me to kill you." "You were suppose to shoot her." "Well i MISSED!" "Ah no Slate was a dead end." "Oh my god he killed him." Is so perfect, thats what Bond is to me. Casual badass with snarky remarks

[@nikolaiquack8548]

Oh, boy. I know a looooot of people who hate the opening title song for this film. I think it's ok, but damn you guys put it high, haha.

[@cowmark67]

I love it Graham for the shoutout to one of my favorite movies Stranger than Fiction. Anyone who hasn't seen it should.

[@thecolortwelve3784]

This movie is one of the few that I enjoyed more later, outside of the theater. I had made the mistake of going to this without seeing casino royale as I incorrectly assumed there wasn't ever sequels in the franchise... Re watching this after having seen casino I was much less confused.

[@THESP-rz3hg]

18:00 Matt G is the secret sauce of this whole series and this joke is the A-1 Prime example

[@superkeaton9912]

He is a treasure

[@Ethan-dk9ik]

I am SURPISED BEYOND BELIEF that you guys loved the title song. Ive rarely ever seen love for "Another Way to Die" and its actually really refreshing to hear a new take on that!

[@rockyradical]

I was going to knock points off for generic lyrics, but it's rare to get a Bond song that actually relates to the plot of that specific movie. The best we usually get is the typical spy fantasy cliche storm, and at least this is a smooth and energetic one. "Another ringer with the slick trigger finger For Her Majesty Another one with the golden tongue Poisoning your fantasy Another bill from a killer turned a thriller To a tragedy" That's just poetic.

[@Ethan-dk9ik]

I do give the song points for its lyrics because I agree, it fits the story quite well, and also for the instrumentals. This was the last, truly upbeat Bond theme we got and the slow ballads are starting to sound dull and uninteresting. The only problems i have with the song is Jack and Alicias vocals. To my ears, they absolutely DO NOT match or harmonize well at all.

[@nitehunter91]

@@Ethan-dk9ik I actually enjoy their voices in sync, often lacking in contrast. It's as if either voices are dripping into each other like the blood in the gunbarrels. I heard Alicia Keys-only version and it just didn't sound right.

[@TimeisReel]

That Song was...Bad

[@calebmarmon1310]

I didn’t like it the first time I watched it, but after hearing them praise it, I watched it on KZbin and found that it’s one of my favorite Bond songs. It just the bad movie that didn’t work for me.

[@TheBeird]

I'm a big advocate for this flick. I understand it turned out the way it did due to production troubles, and the writers strike, and I'd like my action to be less shaky. But what balls they had to follow-up a reinvention with another stylistically different flick. It's unique in the series, and has an energy unmatched by any other Bond. I know its not what series fans wanted, but I'm more into Bond the character, not Bond the fantasy. Just wish that the opera scene had been the film's equivalent of the card game. You know, something like what we got in Mission Impossible Rogue Nation.

[@camerondomer]

Agreed, a lot of the issues that got brought up are with transitions, secondary characters, and Bond's lack of depth can be put on trying to ram this through during the strike. Better writing could have smoothed the transitions out, given Matthis better, quips, made Ms. Fields more three dimensional, and given Craig more time to work on the motivations for what he's doing rather than the scenes dialogue. Or they could have written a CIA based C plot line that fleshed out a power struggle there.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

That's not a matter of balls. That's a matter of giving into hot trends. The producers have been doing this for decades.

[@TheBeird]

@@ricardocantoral7672 A Matter of Balls. Should be the name of a farcical comedy

[@lehrdircks4470]

I struggle with motion sickness. Its nice to hear you guys talking about not liking the "chaotic fight scenes".

[@DarkAkaros]

47:22 Matt G knows where to look for the memorable villains, and remains on point with excellent visual editing.

[@sgommerable]

"From Hell to breakfast." Interesting term

[@jarrettjoy8531]

this is the earliest ive caught the podcast!! i live for this shit.

[@tineye5100]

I’m so glad you loved the song too. It gets hate but IMO it absolutely *slaps*.

[@DuncanEllis]

"stunt roof tiles" Amazing.

[@futuremovieactor]

“Well I missed!” which follows “That wasn’t very nice.” Haha.

[@PhoenixMelior]

Thanks Editor Matt, I also don't vibe with any of the title sequence. I guess I differ in musical (and stylistic) opinion from the hosts.

[@ps-fun1000]

I kinda like the movie, but it's definitely one that feels like it was shot during a writer's strike. So much of it feels like it's close to working but not quite there, like the script needed a few passes before it was ready. Also I was surprised to hear you dig the song. It's one I straight up don't like, thought the game had a better one.

[@RedBairnMedia]

A wall, at the bottom of a ramp, which is the only way into the car park, which is particularly weak to being nudged into by a car, which houses somewhat unstable fuel cells right behind it. WHO COULD HAVE FORESEEN SPLOSIONS?

[@Bloodn0k]

Thank you Griffiths for making the font smaller so we can read the full lists during the rankings. Also, less quips this time?

[@Parmenter1983]

Graham, you know that British Official from V for Vendetta. He's Mr. Creedy.

[@fwg1994]

"Get into it in the comments, I don't care" That is a profound level of done-with-it there.

[@EivindHillesund]

I have only seen one of the Jason Bourne movies, but boy were the action scenes impossible to comprehend in theatres.

[@shobhitsingh6330]

Notice how much this movie is related to License to kill 1. A corrupt businessman is trying to control a latin american country via a military dictator. 2. Villain's girlfriend becomes an ally of Bond. 3. Bond gets suspended, but is secretly allowed by M to pursue his mission. 4. Bond wants to get a personal revenge.

[@josephcharpak4533]

5 The ending has explosions. Lots and lots of explosions. 😀

[@womble1981]

LTK is a much better film though.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Every Craig film features Bond quitting, on suspension, or fired.

[@SgtDax]

The thing i love the most about lrr podcasts is how the editor/tech person is basically a tertiary host. Matt G. here, Ben and Beej on Sidewalk slam, it's so good.

[@Tesseract_King]

Adam on Agatha Fisty is another great example. It's just kind of a lrr trademark at this point and I love it.

[@wesjackson7437]

The only thing I look forward to on Mondays. Thank you guys for this great content.

[@jomo999]

i got here so early because my arrival was quick cut edited.

[@futuremovieactor]

They tested a lock of his hair found in Vesper’s apartment. “I wouldn’t have thought Vesper the sentimental type.”

[@roboninja565]

As much as I wanted Dominic Greene to have some classic bond villain quirk, he just has this entire demeanor and appearance of being sleazy and greasy that I like the portrayal of the character. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but Greene always has this bug-eyed look on his face in every scene he's in. It just makes him look even more 'megalomaniac'.

[@benjones1999]

So happy that somebody else LOVES the title sequence for this film. Even if you remove the fact that this was the first Bond film I ever saw so my notalgia for it is HUGE, the visuals are gorgeous and the song (at least, this version of it) is nowhere near as bad as people make out. Knew I liked you guys for a reason! :)

[@zhoufang996]

Looking forwards to next week. Skyfall is my favourite Bond film. As for this film, I feel like they should have done a lot more with Mathis. He's significantly my favourite part of the movie.

[@Happymali10]

59:39 Look at the screen on the left, with the aircraft-indicator. How fast did they get from South America to almost-Switzerland?

[@johnalogue9832]

"The case is full of euro, since dollar has been dropping..." *Checks year* *2008.*

[@BlueLoneWolf54]

I find it funny that you guys loved this song when I can only really vaguely remember it as a string of semi-coherent mumbles; and yet hated Chris Cornell's song because you dislike his voice. Just different tastes, I guess. And I'd actually put Die Another Day ahead of this movie because while this movie isn't actively not good like Die Another Day is, at least DAD's badness is somewhat charming. I just remember feeling bored during this film. It was a film that relied too much on being a sequel and a setup at the same time, and it really suffered as not being a great bridge to either. But as always, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I'm glad for the podcast and the entertaining take and memories of one of my favorite movie series. Great listen during work fodder :)

[@HS_Gomikubi]

Hard agree on both points. DAD (best acronym) basically is _so_ stupid that it wraps back around to being endearing in a "okay yeah they're trying too hard, but camp has it's own appeal" sort of way. Also as I was listening to You Know My Name I just had that thought like, "I think can see why there are people who don't like this... but I'm not one of them." Meanwhile as I was hearing Another Way to Die: "Did he just namedrop View to a Kill? I have to look up a transcription of these lyrics... okay he didn't, but it's still annoying that I can barely understand most of what's being said here over the bass and we're doing that thing in general with the rhythm of the delivery, I don't know how to describe it but I know when I see it and I don't really like it."

[@PurushaDesa]

I genuinely like DAD both on its own silly X games terms but also way more than this film. The key difference is that film is like a sugar-rush kid giddy to be a super duper huge Bond film and constantly trips over itself being as enthusiastic as possible, versus this mopey, sullen, boring crap which is almost ashamed to be a Bond film. And as cringe inducing as speed ramping is as an editing technique at least I can make out some coherent geography in the action, whereas this is the absolute ugliest of the Paul Greengrass bastardisations from this time. Quantum makes my Bottom 6 in the Bond rankings - the ones I actually don’t rewatch with any love at all.

[@votekyle3000]

This movie reminds me of Tomorrow Never Dies in all the worst ways, they amp up the action but lose focus from the previous film. Add to that, a white collar villain with meh amounts of evil scheme. Further, I actually find the theme forgettable like you do with Sheryl Crow’s song. But you know what TND has? That brilliant parking garage chase, which is in every way better at selling a story and character.

[@SerifinaPhnx]

Do not malign the mighty Ford Fiesta! I drove a Fiesta when I last had a car. It's a great little car. Sure, it's small, but it's way better than it looks. Also surprisingly comfortable.

[@foxmcleod64]

No one: Absolutely no one: Graham and Matt: We love 'Another Way to Die'

[@unlimitedblack]

Dude, I'm with Graham and Wiggins on this, this track is fantastic. And I disagreed with them both on "You Know My Name" from Casino Royale, so this isn't a "the hosts are always right" scenario.

[@GreatgoatonFire]

1:29:30 Green is just a secret Fremen trying to build up his water supply.

[@futuremovieactor]

OPENS TRUNK AND MR. WHITE IS INSIDE. “It’s time to get out.”

[@SigmaMorrigan]

This movie is so damn forgettable that I literally had forgotten EVERYTHING that happened. So thanks to Graham and Matt for reminding me of what the heck happened here!

[@CydoniaPhysGeekGirl]

The only thing I remember about this movie is that it made me fall asleep in the cinema for most of it... I think maybe Bond is on a train around the beginning of it? Or I might be thinking of Skyfall, I'm not sure... I've never gone back and re-watched it. Oh and Bond ends up in a fancy hotel in some kind of desert for some reason? I can't recall...

[@YirbyBond00Y]

@@CydoniaPhysGeekGirl I think you're probably thinking of Spectre

[@Felix_Macho]

This was my very first bond movie, and I saw it in theaters. I enjoyed it and felt like I got the james bond vibe but I wasn't driven to check out any of the older movies. It wasn't until seeing casino royale on tv some years later that I was like, "oh! Now I get why people are so into James Bond" and went back to watch From Russia and the classics

[@andygrams6344]

Graham & Matt - I think it would be great for you to make - in addition to a numbered list - an Aristotelian “moderation” chart - far to the right of the spectrum is extreme goofy (this gets too silly) far to the left is taking itself too serious (this is not escapist, not fun, and now depressing) while the middle is the perfect balance (whether one prefers that or not) and the higher the movies sit vertically in that spectrum the better they succeed in their apparent goal of style, the lower ones failing more so. I think that might go a long way in relaying where these movies sit, and explain why a chunk of people don’t enjoy the Craig films so much - because they would be much farther left of the spectrum, farther left than License to Kill etc. Always enjoy watching these, thanks!

[@Laihoistheman]

Man I was ready for you guys to year the title song a new one, boy was I disappointed, it's definitely second place alright, second to last. Don't be surprised to get a lot of hustling for that choice lol

[@keab42]

I stopped my original watch of this series because I hadn't watched Quantum of Solace and wanted to before listening to this episode. Finally on my rewatch of From Rewatch With Love I got to this point again and actually sat down and watched this film for the very first time. I agree with a lot of what Graham and Matt said. I think I need to go and give the theme song a proper listen because it really didn't wow me.

[@KiroWhitefin]

Damn I forgot Rory Kinnear was in this. Fun trivia then; A chunk of the main cast of Penny Dreadful have also played major roles in Bond. Timothy Dalton, Eva Green, Rory Kinnear and Helen McCrory have appeared in both franchises.

[@insane0042]

@ 1:50:36 Yeah the building was in the wrong place, storing munitions with in 500 yards of the barracks.

[@doorsfan48]

This movie seems so much longer than it actually is. I was actually under the impression that it was one of the longer Bond films until watching a different video on it saying it was one of the shortest.

[@Nuclearstulle]

This is the only Bond movie I've watched in the theatre and I don't remember a whole lot of it. Havn't watched it since, so I'm really excited for your breakdown.

[@youarethedemons]

49:28 Matt's editing joke here got me.

[@menkomonty]

Quantum of Solace was the first Bond film that I ever saw in cinema and I was very middling about it. Though I laughed my ass off when they did the gunbarrel at the end because it felt like it was rushing to get to the credits. It was like they were saying "Alright films over, now piss off!"

[@forge23]

"At least its short" says the title - *looks at podcast running time* - hmmm...

[@kyleguebert5526]

"From Hell to breakfast." Thank you, Graham. I have a new quip in my lexicon.

[@CmdrUD87]

1:13:47 this statement pretty much sums up my feeling on this entire movie. It's just a bit joyless (as the Craig-movies are in general). This also seeps into the title song imo, which lacks energy or the build up of tension. Both artists just feel like they put together something for a paycheck and have done much, much better things individually. Further, a Ford Fiesta isn't even that small of a car and quite common in Europe (where municipal parking spaces are often somewhat smaller).

[@nmo6460]

The little Ford in the film is a Ka. it's a bit smaller than a Fiesta. Anything bigger than Slates case and you would need a Fiesta 😂

[@OwenWilkins]

Yes. It's a hydrogen fuel cell version (as are the SUVs later) hence the unusual electric engine sound and rapid acceleration. Ford were providing most if not all of the vehicles in Bond films at the time. Aston Martin and Jaguar Land Rover were Ford brands at the time and these films are full of them. I wonder if the starring role of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles (also Ford here) was a bit of an own-goal in view of the plot-critical perceived volatility of hydrogen fuel cells in the 'hotel'. Surely Ford were not aware of the negative portrayal of the technology before agreeing to provide vehicles.

[@nmo6460]

I hadn't noticed that till now. It does fire off quickly without sounding like it was shot out of a cannon

[@actioncom2748]

But...but...it had Earth, Water, Air, and Fire. Or so the director said...repeatedly.

[@SirZapdos]

Long ago, the four action sequences lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the hotel fuel cells attacked.

[@actioncom2748]

@@SirZapdos Quick! We need The Fifth Element!

[@actioncom2748]

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[@ricardocantoral7672]

It's a film with artistic merit, really ! The shitty editing is an artistic choice !

[@Voidhawk42]

@@actioncom2748 The Fifth Element is Horse-Metaphors.

[@Bojack727]

@24:41. With all due respect to both of you, I have to agree with "Editor Matt" on the title sequence. I saw this in theaters, and I couldn't remember a single thing about it. I mean, it's right at the bottom of my listing for the Bond title themes. I'm not the only one, because in the lead-up to Skyfall being released, I remember listening to a panel on BBC world radio discussing the history of the title themes, and the general sentiment was that this song was the most forgettable one ever.

[@2nd3rd1st]

1:44:44 Notable staff member, played by none other than Oona Chaplin (exactly). Known from playing Rob Stark's ill fated lover on GoT.

[@chrisdewgong]

Wow. After watching/listening to every episode multiple times, I still can't get over how much you guys like Another Way to Die. It's two people shouting at each other with the occasional (admittedly decent) horn riff, genre-switching seemingly at a whim, and ending with a minute of vocal gymnastics. To me, it's literally only better than Die Another Day. To each their own I guess, it's just strange to see two people like it in the same place!

[@Sientir]

I'm with Editor Matt: I didn't vibe with this title sequence. I think the visuals are interesting, but I have a hard time forming an opinion on them divorced from a song which I do NOT like at all. And as they talk about the song at the end, I'm wondering if I heard the same song as Matt and Graham... I personally didn't like this movie because there was nothing for me to invest in. Afterwards, my feelings were, "Whelp, that happened, I guess?" It felt very unsatisfying. A lot of that is that the plot just kinda...skitters along and the action sequences are mostly unfollowable to me due to a combination of ALWAYS CUTTING TO SOME OTHER THING, WHY?!, shaky cam, the camera being SO CLOSE to its subject that in the brief second the shot lasts I'm just trying to figure out what I am even looking at before it cuts away, and everyone almost always looking too similar to differentiate with those other things going on. This film would've been helped a lot if combatants/chase participants weren't almost always identical looking. Like, maybe try some color or something? I enjoyed this podcast episode, though. :)

[@nitehunter91]

I like the plot, I like the title song, I like the op credits, I like the cinematography, but the editing kills this movie for me. It gives me headaches.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

The title sequence looks like a screen saver animation.

[@christhornycroft3686]

This is history repeating itself. Timothy Dalton went through the same thing with License to Kill after the excellent Living Daylights. The difference is that Craig was actually allowed to come back and redeem himself. I don't think he ever quite reached the heights of what Casino Royale was as a complete package, but Skyfall was another excellent Bond film. At least Daylights and License had the same director. The 2 big problems with Quantum are the writing and that there's zero continuity in director. Martin Campbell at least needed to come back and direct this if it's a direct sequel. Bringing in someone else was bad all around. But as 007 has always been a man of his time, I guess a Jason Bourne style movie should have been expected because that was in vogue at the time.

[@Bojack727]

@1:31:40. Okay, I have to be upfront and say this... I don't think that it should really matter that much in the larger picture even if the message is ham-fisted, because it still speaks to a larger issue of suffering. It's the same kind of frustration I feel whenever I hear modern takes on Star Trek 4- this idea that there has to be some proviso about saving the whales, as if we have to quantify the fact that we can just care and empathize with others. To anyone reading this, get out there- make a donation, volunteer a few hours in your local homeless shelter, spend time planting trees, just do something!

[@ILikePi31415926535]

This has the dubious honor of being the only movie I have fallen asleep while watching at the theater. Granted I found out the next day I had been coming down with the flu that day, but I remember the car chase being very confusing, being lost as to who Mathis was and confusing him with Mr. White, and then waking up for the EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE glass building and the villain left with a bottle of oil. No idea what happened in between.

[@ablotupontheearth7513]

The sweeping guy joke from Matt G. Is hilarious.

[@codybergman5991]

Shout out to Matt G (video editor) for (very respectfully and politely) disagreeing with Graham and Matt, as I also share his opinion here about the credits and song, and several other times when watching when he has done this in other videos. No shit on Graham and Matt, but sometimes I feel that they have their own little bubble of opinions (they're long-standing friends who likely share similar tastes and biases) which they (to me) state as if they were absolutes which are not necessarily as strongly held by others. I also stress that they are by no means bad about this compared to others, but they are human and it happens as we all have our own biases, but I find it refreshing to get the additional voice time and again. I have a similar opinion to the Ben/Beej dynamic in the Sidewalk Slam podcasts. Also, I miss the great suit debates of the Moore Era :P

[@themadoneplays7842]

I will always have a soft spot for QOS as knowing about all the production issues makes me feel for it the same way I do Alien 3 or Batman Forever. Yes as a sequel to Casino Royale this fails... hard but as a Bond movie it's serviceable.

[@womble1981]

I had completely forgotten the song “Another Way To Die”, which seemed odd because I am a Bond music aficionado. Having just found it on KZbin and listened, I have forgotten it again. It’s so forgettable that it makes me reconsider my ownership of a White Stripes album. I guess there were some songs I liked on Get Behind Me Satan but the style is horribly mismatched to a Bond film: cheap-sounding and chaotic, the opposite of what we have come to expect from Bond opening titles.

[@tropicalcatdetective]

Somewhere between the film coming out and now, I learnt that the song was done in a rush and was a late addition. Originally it was going to be a song by Amy Winehouse in collaboration with the score composer, David Arnold.

[@johnpotts8308]

This has the "distinction" (for me) of being the Bond film I have the most trouble remembering anything about. The only thing I do remember is the homage(?) to Goldfinger of Strawberry Fields' death, and it's almost completely incidental to the movie.

[@wilcoxchar]

I was waiting for this one to see what you thought of the Siena scene. I have a soft spot for it because I was on a family trip to Europe in 2004 and the day we visited Siena happened to be the day of the Palio (we didn't stay for the race, but we saw a lot of the preparation) and that's always stuck with me, so I was just glad to see the Palio in a film. I also like how the church they end the scene in is clearly inspired by the Siena cathedral with the black and white striping. I don't mind the quick cuts as much at the beginning in the sewer because it's in such a tight space, but once they get above ground I find the cuts annoying. I also keep thinking the Siena scene is the pre-title sequence because I apparently just wiped the actual one from my memory it's so bad. That said, the Siena scene and the title sequence are basically the only bits from the movie I'll go back and watch.

[@SnowmanTF2]

That hotel also seems like other than unstable fuel cells, is constructed entirely of concrete, steel, brick and glass. All of which are difficult to catch fire (at least in normal atmosphere)

[@ConnallTara]

so... can we please have "the horse is a metaphor" T-shirts at some point? :>

[@mowdownjoe]

I saw that, and my mind went to Bojack Horseman and the ridiculous motivational tapes he started listening to in the first episode of season 2. "You are a metaphor. Everything is a metaphor!"

[@sashaburrow6186]

When I first watched it in theaters, I though Mitchell was going to get run down by the horses...

[@jordanfalk236]

One comment about opening title and another about movie generally: 1. I was so hoping you would like this title song and i was so happy that you did. I went to this movie in theaters to hear the song! 2. Would your opinion of the movie be different if it were marketed as “Casino Royale part two” a la Avengers end game/infinity war?

[@AnotherStatsGuy]

@14:23 --- Sonic the Hedgehog reference. 10/10

[@sephirothii13]

Ok Matt I forgive you from last week about Chris Cornell, because finally someone agrees that this theme rules and I love it so much I feel that Jack White nails this theme...

[@awalton]

I thought their comments about the song were pretty spot on - it's great except for the wailing Alicia Keys bit which is just so unwarranted for such a banger. White could have written a real bridge there.