What if These NBA GOATs had a PERFECT Finals Record?

[@ringsiderewindofficial]

Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:20 LeBron James 2:58 Kevin Durant 4:20 Steph Curry 5:35 Magic Johnson 5:58 Shaquille O'Neal 6:38 Kobe Bryant 7:30 Bill Russell 8:07 Tim Duncan 9:05 Outro Latest UFC Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIGan4qwhLJpgbs

[@HorizonOfHope]

Bill Russell could have had 12 rings rather than the measly 11 he ended up with.

[@Cyantist13]

Wow, thats super unfortunate 😂

[@hausiana80]

Actually 13 little boy

[@jxkuzure]

@@hausiana80actually 12 “little boy”

[@Psiros]

Only 11? What a loser!

[@MrE_]

@@hausiana80 dumb

[@JasonZhao4711]

I think the 2013 Championship is very significant for LeBron, almost on par with the 2016 chip. If Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3 and TimmyD went 6-0, you'd have to put Duncan over Lebron on the GOAT list because not only # of rings (6>3), Duncan will be seen as LeBron's Kryptonite since he would've won all 3 meetings in the final

[@TFFProd]

Not to discredit, but lebron helped them get into a situation where it was close, plus ray allen was scoreless in game 7. Ik that is ray didnt hit that shot then his legacy will be kinda ruined but lebron showed up way more than ray allen. I agree with ur Tim Duncan > Lebron if they dont win those finals though

[@ngu_kunalt2]

If popivich didn't sub Tim out he would be talked about liked this also quick reminder that if doc rivers allowed Tim Duncan's wife on the game planes and rooms

[@unkown981]

Idk about Timmy being above lebron in goat ranking even with the perfect finals record I Timmy lacks the stats and the cultural impact to rise above his position here’s my ranking 1.MJ 2.LBJ 3. KAJ 1-3 interchangeable 4. Wilt 5. Bill 6. Bird 7. Magic 4-7 interchangeable 8. Tim Ducan 9. Kobe 10. Shaq 8-10 interchangeable 11. Steph 12. Hakeem 13. KD All 3 of these guys have asterisks that remove em from top 10 but Steph and KD still active they can break through to the top

[@raidiscool9144]

Swap kd and Steph

[@ClayHales]

I love how happy Kawhi and sad Kawhi is the same face.

[@jpb620]

came down just for this comment

[@cypher787]

Lebron would gain the most and lose the most in this scenario. 10-0 with at least 9 finals mvps (wade was better in the finals in 2011) makes him the undisputed GOAT while losing his 2016 ring or 1 for 4 with Miami drops him probably out of the top 5

[@danielgloyd4529]

Totally agree. Except I think Bron falls to KD levels of disrespect. If he loses that much. He is just a ring chaser creating failed super teams. In a weak conference, he just got lucky 1 time.

[@footballthoughts8577]

only thing about this is every other player was close to going undefeated except for Lebron which makes his scenario wayyy less possible then Currys cuz he could realistically have 6 rings Lebron has no scenario is undefeated

[@metallicarequiem2936]

The only way the Heat win the 2011 Finals if LeBron balls out, which automatically gives LeBron the FMVP because a hypothetically good performance LeBron is 99% certain to preform better than Wade

[@footballthoughts8577]

@@metallicarequiem2936 the wrong 🤣😭🤣 “ the only way” WRONGGGG

[@gienia449]

I wish you talked about Elgin Baylor and Jerry West

[@RnDm_got]

1-9 💀💀💀

[@travismcnamara8919]

Same here. A part 2 will probably come fairly soon.

[@vernonherb]

I was abt to say the same as Jerry west is in the opening but he said nothing abt him in the video

[@donquixoterosinante7672]

If will affect Bill Russell’s rings

[@bandofbauers6779]

Let, me break it down. Jerry west wins 10 rings I don't know if that makes him the goat. But, one thing for sure. Is, that he would probably be the best point guard ever. Bill russell, only gets 4 rings. While, he would still be a top 10 center of all time. He, wouldn't be as big of an icon. He, dosent get his wouldn't have the finals MVP named after him. Which, would likely be Jerry West. Likely, wouldn't have gotten his Jersey retired after his death. Also, the celtics wouldn't have had there dynasty. Would, not be the historical franchise they ate today. Also, Wilt would end up with 5 rings, would be in the debate for the greatest center of all-time. There, you have it. What do you think

[@滋榎本]

If Kevin Durant hadn't moved to the Warriors, LeBron might have won a few championships with the Cavaliers. Many star players have been expected to be the next Jordan in their youth, including Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, and the younger generation Kevin Durant and Dwyane Wade. But no other player has been compared to Michael Jordan as harshly as LeBron James throughout his career.

[@randikochaak]

It is because of his actions when u come to the league and write chosen one at ur back and declare u are the greatest which even mj doesn’t do then such comparision is going to come from the media harsely.

[@Kujobcs]

@@randikochaak the media gave him the nickname "chosen one" not himself.

[@christiansoldier77]

@user-jw5qj8kv2y Only Penny , Grant Hill, Kobe, Vince and Lebron were considered the "Next Jordan"

[@d3va383]

@@randikochaakthe media called himself that. Lebron just said he believes he’s the GOAT. Kobe has said that he believes he’s the GOAT and MJ has strongly implied that. Lebron has a stronger GOAT case then Kobe, but no one criticizes him for saying he’s the GOAT, I wonder why.

[@ElliotScottDating]

​@d3va383 kobe 9 out of 10 times is humble about it. Says he's not in a league with Jordan, says he's not a goat, says he's not top 5, says others are better. Lebron 9 times out 10 runs with he's the goat narrative.

[@starwarsnewsandmemes8289]

If you do more of these I would like to see: Elgin Baylor & Jerry West Kareem Bird Olajuwon Wilt Dr. J Stockton & Malone Jimmy Butler

[@CrestlineIceberg]

I think a few greats that would've benefitted tremendously with a perfect finals record is Wes Unseld, Dennis Johnson and most importantly, Dr. J and Wilt.

[@darkmatter8890]

Jerry West too, he would've had 9 rings, taking away most of Bill Russell's while putting up insane stats the whole time

[@Kurraga]

Jerry west going undefeated in the finals would rocket him from his current top 25ish all time status to probably top 5 so I think he'd have the most to gain at least out of anyone with at least 1 ring.

[@stringfalafel7692]

3:26 wth is going on with James leg lol

[@BrockMak]

Kareem: 71 AND 74 with the Bucks on top of the 8 he had with Magic, unless, against all odds, he came back to play in 1991 as well.

[@lifebybill1326]

It's not even a question.....in these hypothetical situations, clearly, LeBron would benefit the most. 10-0 with an 8peat, and most likely 8-10 finals MVPS....that scenario would make him the undisputed GOAT of basketball, and possibly of professional American sports....10-0 NBA champ vs 7-3 Tom Brady, vs 7 WS titles for Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky with 4 Stanley Cups.....a case could be made

[@Anthony-df2ez]

Nah you underestimate MJ meat riders 😂

[@markula_4040]

The thing about this is, if LeBron in Miami won 4 straight, do you think he would go back to Cleveland or stay in Miami to try and win more? It really felt he ditched the Heat because he thought their window closed due to Wade's injuries & decline.

[@EndietheEnderman]

6:23 Shaq beat MJ bulls in 95 when Jordan was playing tho, en route to the finals

[@lifebybill1326]

Greatest winner in NBA history: Bill Russell Greatest career in NBA history: LeBron James Greatest shooter in NBA history: Steph Curry Greatest defender in NBA history: Hakeem Olajuwon Greatest scorer in NBA history: MJ Greatest two way player in NBA history: MJ Most dominant NBA player: Shaq The most versatile NBA player: LeBron Most unstoppable shot: Kareem skyhook Most statistically dominant: Wilt GOAT: MJ Top 10: 1. MJ 2. LeBron 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Tim Duncan 6. Shaq 7. Kobe 8. Bird 9. Bill Russell 10. Steph Curry

[@NarutoUzumaki-og1ge]

W take

[@mr.marvel_9084]

magic land into a superteam as rookie, and steph built hi owm. ass list

[@valleyshrew]

Im just curious what makes LBJ so great/versatile? The 10 finals is nice, but I never saw any of them. Checking the stats, he doesnt look that great compared to other MVP players. 1 scoring title. Advanced stats like PER and WS put him ~5th in a lot of those finals years, but there's a big gap between 5th and 1st. But that's regular season, was he more of a big game player or something?

[@andyruecking4926]

4:05 Kevin Durant and Lebron are making wierd faces while Kawhi is just staring into my soul😢

[@jimgeary]

MJ >> Curry on Defense but Curry >> MJ @ Golf, which must sting much more.

[@yoshimotono]

I hate KD for joining an already stacked warriors team, he could've done his rings with OKC but he just had to join 4 future HOF just to beat LeBron. If Lebron won 2 of those rings + a ring with the dallas, he'd be totally the no-brainer GOAT.

[@TheBlankNoName]

Bron would have been Chasing Bill instead of Chasing Mike 😂😂😂

[@metallicarequiem2936]

In terms of rings yes, but LeBron is still the GOAT

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@metallicarequiem2936debatable.

[@celtics_fan]

now i would like to see what if the legends had not won a single finals series

[@JustAMessenger-o7g]

If magic went 9-0, kareem would have 10 rings. Would be a hard case to make for magic to be the goat. This is a very cool video. 😂

[@hannibalwolf1205]

The fact that they didn't make a what if scenario for Michael Jordan illustrates why he's the GOAT.

[@tensaprston]

no bro, jordan is already perfect in the finals 6/6.bro u a casual

[@miguelmoralesrodriguez7258]

When he said the timmy rebound away or sub i felt it, as a big wade fan and liked the style of shooters like allen, and still my mind could not understand why tim was sat down for that play

[@deshawnthomas]

0:30 tell me why immediately clocked this as the Luigi goal theme from Mario Strikers Charged on the Wii haha

[@FOWBOWZ]

The little Dance that your characters do makes every video for me

[@Fixundfertig1]

Fun fact, Bill Russell lost those final series because he got injured

[@BrockMak]

6:46 Darko Milicic would be ringless.

[@BrockMak]

3:26 6:44 Derek Fisher would had got 1 more ring than Kobe anyway. They have the same number of rings despite Fisher leaving the Lakers twice.

[@randyrandycontent]

Great what if vid

[@DonSMDT]

frankly i'd have duncan as the goat if he won 2013 and 2014 but 2014 was the team getting together and working harder *because* of that loss

[@Samuel31nation]

Don't forget about the ringless players who made it to the finals but lost

[@dannyhernandez265]

Barkley, CP3, Westbrook, Harden, Reggie Miller, etc…

[@BrockMak]

But if Bob Petit and the Hawks lost to the Celtics in 1958, Russell and the Celtics would had a 9-peat!

[@celtics_fan]

actually, no because bill russell won 9 chips in 10 years and that win would have give him that 10th chip

[@JasonZhao4711]

actually, 10-peat from '57 to '66

[@davitjaniashvili]

I think if Duncan would go 6-0 he would be easily top 5 player maybe even top 3 all time. He would beat Lebron 3 time which would be the great argument against Lebron who is second greatest player off all time, so i think he would be number 2. Also we need Larry Bird, Kareem, Jerry west and Hakeems episode

[@xArkseyx]

Duncan is already top 5; 1. MJ, 2. LeBron, 3. Kobe, 4. Duncan, 5. Kareem.

[@davitjaniashvili]

@@xArkseyx No i don't think so. I think Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Kareem are still better. But I respect if someone say he is top 5 because he is so underrated 2 way player and have winner mentality

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@xArkseyxLebron at 2 is kind of an exaggeration.

[@mymom9741]

Kareem is underrated no mater what. 2nd All Time leading scorer and 6 rings

[@Vortexbrawll]

When Lebron is crying because he lost to KD Kaw hi is just staring with no face at all

[@yah2451]

what was the bg music during kobe's part

[@BrockMak]

James Jones AND LeBron would had both won 7 rings, and Jones may sign an extra year for ring no.8 just for sitting on the bench.

[@billmilligan7272]

If LeBron won three in a row in his early career, he would never have left Cleveland.

[@ayubart5015]

Maybe he would've gotten in beef with the franchise or something

[@benjaminglazer7217]

I wish Lebron and magic had perfect record personally

[@scarnFPS]

Aint no way i thought that was sushi on the thumbnail 😭😭😭😭

[@flozirkus7618]

Where is MJ? Oh.

[@beefpares810]

Waiting for his Pippen just to make to finals

[@Waino50iscool]

He already got perfect finals record

[@sir_sack]

Where's John Havlichek? Oh.

[@kolovikon2118]

@@beefpares810 so you are telling there is someone in this video who won a ring without another strong teammate on his team? At least Pippen was drafted AND he was far from being great at the beginning of his career.

[@beefpares810]

@@kolovikon2118 SO YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S NOT A FACT THAT MJ DIDN'T WENT TO THE FINALS WITHOUT PIPPEN? THE FACT THAT MJ ALWAYS GOT SEND HOME ON 1ST OR 2ND ROUND? EVEN POST CHICAGO MJ. HE COULDN'T WIN SHIT

[@chrismorris6865]

That was an unnecessary diss to 2020 lol. It's not a fake ring.

[@mrmacho41]

Jerry West and Elgin Baylor. 8 in a row.

[@BrockMak]

If Jerry West went 9-0, Phil Jackson would have had 0 rings as a player.

[@averyce2]

Good video. But how can you completely dismiss Kareem Abdul Jabbar?!?

[@johnnyjoey]

Sorry, but this is a dumb discussion. Succeeding in the playoffs IS part of your legacy! Asking “what if” is odd. These players all had their chances and didn’t win when the opportunity came. If you can’t perform in the playoffs, that is a reflection of you as a player. There are too many rabbit holes here.

[@dgtallgamer]

I hate that people underrate bill Russel. 11-1 should have him in the goat debate IMO and 12-0 with a decade-peat would seal the discussion to me. If the point is to win, why not call the winningest player ever by a large margin the GOAT? It's the opposite phenomenon that happens between McHale and Horry. Both were role players but Horry has more rings. Why is McHale a top 75 player but Horry isn't? NBA discussions are strange

[@TaQa04]

Russel's rings are such a hard debate because he played when there were only 8 teams in the league. If you were on the best team, you didn't have to fight through quality competition to get to the finals, and even in the finals, you might not be playing a team that's all that great. He is a great, for sure, but he is absolutely the poster of "Rings don't mean everything," and why he's constantly out of top-10 all-time debates.

[@JasonZhao4711]

@@TaQa04 Russell is not the GOAT but I have yet to see people who don't have him in the top 10. That is plain stupidity

[@imvinnyq]

7 time champion, Andre Iguodala

[@theophilusjones6024]

It’s hard to watch your videos man when you’re always throwing subs at players like Bron. Mickey Mouse ring and Baby thunder really? Do u watch the league man? That thunder team was READY. They were favorites and all. People keep trying to rewrite history though. And that 2020 ring was the hardest ring of all time after the 1995 rockets and MAYBE 2011 Mavs

[@supershadowan]

LeBron has the most benefit from it in my honest opinion He'll be a true king with a 10-0 record

[@HooperPremium]

Unfortunately the real GOAT doesn’t have to question this

[@jimbobfisher8904]

2:00 what are you talking about KD does have 0 rings.

[@asherc7090]

In this he does

[@ElliotScottDating]

This why mj the best. No hypotheticals. No what ifs like the title suggest. Dude 6-0

[@agoodfamily4463]

Mj goat

[@Schuykill]

Jimmy butler, 8th seed finals people will say jokic is a playoff choker and lebrom will only get 3 rings which is less than curry making him the 2nd best in his own era

[@arcticfoxaxel1589]

3:23 harden's leg injury

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

1:20 don’t you mean 2?

[@sir_sack]

No, because in those 3 times they faced, Duncan won 2 of them. So he'd have 2 less

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

@@sir_sack Oh yeah, I completely forgot about 2005

[@BasketCrafter6059]

No they met 3 times but LeBron won in 2013 and Tim Duncan won in 07 and 14

[@breadofloaf5349]

aye real question tho who is better? MJ or Lebron

[@king-ghost1027]

Mj boy

[@JustinGoodwinGaming]

Lebron

[@travismcnamara8919]

LBJ, KD, Magic, and Steph all would benefit so much I can't call a clear winner.

[@Di11boi]

Buffalo bills just became insane

[@codyeble0713]

What about jae crowder??

[@orcamasterz]

Not to mention, KD Would have probably stayed with golden state if they had won that 2019 finals.

[@robson1012]

Jerry West :)

[@YamiRiku]

if that was the case with curry only getting the 1 ring he would still be above dame because he went to the finals all those years prior to finally winning 1

[@BKrystall]

Also if MJ didn’t retire after the 1993 season. MJ would have had an 8-peat.

[@MrDROC55]

How if some went up against each other

[@kaboomkp]

Lebron Jumpscare 3:54 lmao

[@LeonidasChronis]

There is no point on making this video. What are we talking about? Imaginary scenarios

[@theophilusjones6024]

What separates Lillard and Curry is NOT just a trophy case, this has been proven multiple times when they faced off in the playoffs… Curry is better by far and I’m a heat fan. I want Lillard badly, but they’re not close. That was a false narrative people we’re trying to create

[@ArisTalion]

3/4ts of lebrons opponents in the east would not even make it to the playoffs if u put them in the west standing

[@Skibiditoiletsigma123]

Where is Kevon looney? He is better than all these player!!!!!

[@sup2261]

But they didn't, you know who did tho, MJ

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

Meat rider

[@rhenspaulpaguia57]

But that doesn't mean that hes greater

[@beefpares810]

With Pippen. Without he got 0

[@VITOG17]

@@beefpares810lebron with wade bosh and allen, love and irving, davis and howard

[@Joshie0212]

@@VITOG17howard was kinda washed when he played with Lebron though

[@everia_games]

The bronze jade's

[@lordmegatron8444]

You can't have GOATS, it defeats the purpose.

[@TheFluffierTheBetter]

doing this more

[@gershonmeisel9860]

cuury can shoot free throws and 3point shots steal play off the ball

[@lebronisthegoatla]

Lebron is the goat

[@tristanharris8440]

You forgot Kareem

[@spaceherobney]

Man you forgot to talk about Jordan

[@metallicarequiem2936]

When you get swept in the first round instead, you get to keep a overhyped “perfect finals record”

[@adityarajgwalani4215]

Where is Larry Bird?

[@anthonysloan2620]

Uhhh yeah. It's easy to be a goat in an eastern conference that was the weak Conference til just a few year ,s ago.

[@justinholland6132]

Its easy to be the greatest of something that has existed since the 1890s?

[@anthonysloan2620]

@@justinholland6132 Huh?? Bruh greatest of what. Make a point don't just say dumb sh*t.

[@jcdagoat14]

If LeBron was undefeated he’d be the goat and d-wade would be 4th to bron, Kobe, and mj If kd was undefeated he’d be the goat and Steph would be 3rd to kd and Kobe, Russ would be top 10 If Steph was undefeated he’d be second to Kobe, kd would be 4th, and LeBron would be 6th If Magic was undefeated he’d be the goat and Kareem would be 2nd. The top 3 would all be lakers. If Shaq was undefeated he’d be second to Kobe who would be even better. If Kobe was undefeated nothing would change in the goat race If Tim Duncan was undefeated he’d be better than LeBron, and maybe top 3 If bill Russell was undefeated his legacy would’nt change If mj was undefeated he’d still be second to kobe

[@gusgoudelocke793]

if jordan was undefeated in the finals he’d be the goat

[@kacy9699]

You're the goat if you're reading this

[@raheemingram8341]

You guys forgetting Robert Horry. 7 rings more than Jordan,lebron and kobe. 😂😂😂😂he also have more rings than Kareem Abdul jabber. 😂😂😂😊

[@JaMorantfan420]

What if Kareem went 10-0

[@thepoisonouspotato3631]

Olajuwon would have 3 rings

[@Johndoedoe1999]

What about wilt

[@kennylynch8575]

Jordan already has

[@samuelwright6691]

Where’s wilt and larry

[@TheFluffierTheBetter]

you shouldve did wilt

[@gershonmeisel9860]

i would be happy if my favorite player derrick rose won a championship

[@XavierSchwartzTheOriginal]

4:31

[@gergokiss2086]

What if Jordan had a Perfect Finals Record? Sorry we dont have to imagine that cause he has.

[@corvusmonedulas4895]

I don't think this is a good video topic. Seems like you've covered everything now 😂

[@swankwms]

Why not wilt he lost in the finals in a lot

[@part6133]

On the subject of Curry vs Lebron, most of us know that the series was rigged to give LeBron the 🏀🏀

[@CrazyLamaKing]

But the thing is why Kobe is the goat cuz my wend 6 and 0 in the finals which means no one was good Kobe vied him and lebron

[@BaithNa]

This is why Jordan is the GOAT of GOATs

[@metallicarequiem2936]

11-1 >>> 6-0 Bill Russel is the GOAT according to MJ fan logic 😂