Putting an Asterisk on NBA Dynasties!

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Rebound Rewind

Rebound Rewind

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@ReboundRewind
@ReboundRewind 5 ай бұрын
Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:43 Minneapolis Lakers 1:19 Boston Celtics 2:17 Showtime Lakers 5:25 Chicago Bulls 8:00 Kobe & Shaq Lakers 9:53 Spurs 13:15 Golden State Warriors 15:57 Outro
@Bluebirdfalling
@Bluebirdfalling 5 ай бұрын
2:56 wtf is a pace factor
@zackarypowell5333
@zackarypowell5333 5 ай бұрын
I almost agree with everything you say but that 2022 warriors rings legit. That Celtics team just won. And I truly think that was Steph’s best performance.
@miado192
@miado192 5 ай бұрын
2011 bobcats?
@seananthony7494
@seananthony7494 4 ай бұрын
The reason the Spurs are considered a dynasty from 1999-2014 isn’t just because they had Tim Duncan and Coach Pop but also because they never had a losing season through out that stretch. They never missed the playoffs and had 50 wins or above every season, so they were considered a title contender every year that Duncan played on the Spurs.
@zackarypowell5333
@zackarypowell5333 4 ай бұрын
@@seananthony7494 I would say into the 90s to they we’re pretty good with the admiral to.
@FroggyDoesStuf
@FroggyDoesStuf 5 ай бұрын
Where 2024 pistons
@Boxingbetter-iz4do
@Boxingbetter-iz4do 5 ай бұрын
In the garbage
@ashinyblockreal
@ashinyblockreal 5 ай бұрын
fr
@BlueiayYT
@BlueiayYT 5 ай бұрын
It is impossible to put an asterisk on them
@nightdonutstudio
@nightdonutstudio 5 ай бұрын
He means 2004? Or he is just joking?
@FroggyDoesStuf
@FroggyDoesStuf 5 ай бұрын
@@nightdonutstudio wdym 2024 pistons is the greatest team of all time
@Eniggma39
@Eniggma39 5 ай бұрын
_No Rizz_ when Tony Parker smashed his teammate wife is crazy
@nowbacktome
@nowbacktome 5 ай бұрын
he can enter the HoF but i will always remember him as Mr. Fuck-yo-wife bruh
@dereklouther9372
@dereklouther9372 4 ай бұрын
That’s not rizz that’s just fucked up
@EA-dweller
@EA-dweller 4 ай бұрын
Well, Lebron’s mom slept with his teammate. That’s even more fkd up.
@stargazer8g2
@stargazer8g2 4 ай бұрын
​@@dereklouther9372yea she was fucked up
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
What??????
@the_boss2194
@the_boss2194 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I think Larry Bird’s Celtics should be considered a dynasty. They won three chips in six years, while making the finals every year between 84-87 in a stacked East. To me that’s plenty of domination to be considered a dynasty. In fact that’s what made the Lakers and Celtics rivalry of the 1980s so unique, it was not just two teams, but two DYNASTIES going at each others throats fighting for legacy.
@Iamhungey
@Iamhungey 5 күн бұрын
Plus people counted the Spurs' era as such and they never repeated either.
@Orto4956
@Orto4956 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I mean if the Chiefs are a dynasty in todays world then the Celtics gotta be.
@Caspelwasnotavailable
@Caspelwasnotavailable 5 ай бұрын
I like how the 2010s Spurs is just "no rizz" in the thumbnail
@skibidiFC-n1i
@skibidiFC-n1i 5 ай бұрын
That was a good one😂
@blackestballer
@blackestballer 5 ай бұрын
That’s just not true, Manu has elite rizz
@haanaa9494
@haanaa9494 5 ай бұрын
tony parker
@Balloffamer
@Balloffamer 5 ай бұрын
​@@haanaa9494 lets not go that way😳
@skibidiFC-n1i
@skibidiFC-n1i 5 ай бұрын
@@Balloffamer what did he do?
@joshuapaes5914
@joshuapaes5914 5 ай бұрын
Not talking about Birds Celtics is crazy
@CAGAT25
@CAGAT25 5 ай бұрын
Because there are no asterisk. Except probably that they have fewer rings compared to the lakers
@briannguyen6055
@briannguyen6055 5 ай бұрын
Clearly the perfect dynasty
@bootleg6595
@bootleg6595 5 ай бұрын
because theres not much to talk about lol
@afropurgatory5422
@afropurgatory5422 5 ай бұрын
because it would defeat his later point of the spurs
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 5 ай бұрын
They kinda only won 3 in a 6 year span, never repeated, and lost 2 Finals
@jorgedavidcabezas4950
@jorgedavidcabezas4950 5 ай бұрын
Bro went to professional hater mode 😭
@Boxingbetter-iz4do
@Boxingbetter-iz4do 5 ай бұрын
He Became a hater equally
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 5 ай бұрын
Man he literally showed them all
@Carbun4732
@Carbun4732 5 ай бұрын
"The most obvious goaltend in NBA history" you can see how salty this man is when he said that 😂
@sylvanusblimpo154
@sylvanusblimpo154 5 ай бұрын
It was tho ngl
@IEmulateGames
@IEmulateGames 5 ай бұрын
As a Spurs fan, the whole 3 ring dynasty makes sense.
@samconn7276
@samconn7276 5 ай бұрын
Another analogy to the DWade Heat “dynasty” would be that Kobe (and DFish) were on the 00-02 Championship teams as well as 09-10, so it would be like saying the Lakers were a Dynasty from 2000-2010. Which is beyond just a stretch.
@samconn7276
@samconn7276 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, a Dynasty should probably at least have a Back-to-Back in their run. Also, one could argue that Lebron James was a one-man Dynasty even though he was on 3 different teams: -Back-to-Back Chips (12,13) -3 Chips in 5 years (12,13,16) - same as Spurs -4 Chips in 9 years (12,13,16,20) -8 Straight Finals (11-18) -9 Finals in 10 years (11-18,20) -10 Finals in 14 years (07,11-18,20)
@jahimuddin2306
@jahimuddin2306 5 ай бұрын
@@samconn7276, That is why they call him The King.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 5 ай бұрын
@@samconn7276 They also had Phil with them
@the_boss2194
@the_boss2194 5 ай бұрын
@@samconn7276I disagree. I feel that if you win at least 3 rings in 5 years, no matter how it’s done, that’s a dynasty. That level of dominance is so hard to reach and maintain
@Hawka23
@Hawka23 4 ай бұрын
Jordan didn't suffer 'Too much rest' in '95. He trained his body for a completely different sport. He wasn't resting, he was working his ass off-just not at basketball. So yes, he came back unprepared for basketball, and became fatigued. If fatigue and fitness was a factor, we would expect this to be rectified after a pre-season of proper basketball preparation. So what happened the year after? Oh, 96 Bulls. That's right... And your next argument is even worse.... 'The Chicago bulls claim to the best team ever in 96 is crap, because the Chicago bulls were the best team ever in 92'. What a weird argument...
@robharrison8139
@robharrison8139 Күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely poor arguments when discounting the Bulls.
@everia_games
@everia_games 5 ай бұрын
Where is the Qing Dynasty?
@LeBron_squad23
@LeBron_squad23 12 күн бұрын
Omg😊
@nakumininja
@nakumininja 5 күн бұрын
gengis
@micshaz
@micshaz 5 күн бұрын
Song and Han need a deep dive too
@vicedm1145
@vicedm1145 5 ай бұрын
I feel if the Spurs are counted, the 80s Celtics should be
@daviddemarchi9110
@daviddemarchi9110 5 ай бұрын
Excellent, thoughtful, analysis and humour to boot
@Destryder1
@Destryder1 5 ай бұрын
Warriors win Championship: ''IT'S NOT FAIR, SUPER TEAM!!!!' Raptors beat Warriors to win Championship: ''IT'S NOT FAIR, SUPER TEAM INJURED!!!!
@colinmagaming
@colinmagaming 5 ай бұрын
lol
@rollanromeo7585
@rollanromeo7585 3 ай бұрын
It’s true tho their 2nd and 3rd best players had season ending injuries, as good as Steph was he’s not carrying that team to another ring
@AnasShaikh-c2f
@AnasShaikh-c2f Ай бұрын
@@rollanromeo7585 1st and 3rd best player*
@BloodReaper95
@BloodReaper95 4 күн бұрын
@@AnasShaikh-c2f In terms of the team, 2nd and 3rd, Steph has a better record then KD when comparing their win loss when one of them are injured.
@RowanZaise
@RowanZaise Күн бұрын
This video, did not consider the lbj-led Miami to be a dynasty, since that 2011 was indeed more of reverberating than that of 2016...and that 2014 blow out by a stacked old spurs players
@jtbucketsshorts2213
@jtbucketsshorts2213 5 ай бұрын
2022 Celtics inexperienced ? That core had been to the ECF 3 times already
@lilbepsi3193
@lilbepsi3193 5 ай бұрын
The ECF and Finals are wayyyy different
@jtbucketsshorts2213
@jtbucketsshorts2213 5 ай бұрын
@@lilbepsi3193 they were still together for years, built chemistry and made multiple deep playoff runs .
@JaimesRemandsyons
@JaimesRemandsyons 5 ай бұрын
​@@jtbucketsshorts2213 The finals is just a whole different level dude
@freeddawg2882
@freeddawg2882 5 ай бұрын
but no finals until that moment
@jtbucketsshorts2213
@jtbucketsshorts2213 5 ай бұрын
@@freeddawg2882 they still weren’t inexperienced though . They’d been battle tested, won multiple playoff series across multiple years it’s not like they were just put together in the offseason
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 5 ай бұрын
7:05: that’s really looking for something negative to say. He didn’t rest for two years, he was playing a totally different sport for 2 years… They still lost fair and square to Orlando ( H Grant was a huge loss for them and a massive win for Orlando), but it’s obvious that MJ wasn’t back to shape yet. Just look at the next season and how much better he was after a few months of training.
@mrmacho41
@mrmacho41 Күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 for each team, this man said anything. No real thought went into this.
@brucewayne1662
@brucewayne1662 3 күн бұрын
The problem with the Spurs "dynasty" is that none of their championships were consecutive. And each of the years they were defending their title, they lost in choking, humiliating fashion that is not befitting of a champion.
@RavinManiac
@RavinManiac 2 күн бұрын
What about the 2008 Celtics, the most famous 1-title dynasty in NBA history?
@youngtsa6164
@youngtsa6164 5 ай бұрын
Thanks rebound for a new great video hope u have a good day 👍🏿
@HyperHeatWave
@HyperHeatWave 5 ай бұрын
Out of these imo the smallest astericks is the warriors, bro just called them bad cuz they made a good team Also the first finals I think of when I here warriors finals is 2022
@JD-iu6rv
@JD-iu6rv 5 ай бұрын
2:33 is that an 8 bit version of the Justice League unlimited theme song in the background?
@fernandocarrazzoni
@fernandocarrazzoni 5 ай бұрын
I am astounded by the fact that you did not mention those two miscalls in G6 of the '98 Finals.
@wpriddy
@wpriddy 4 ай бұрын
Which ones? The ones you wish happened where both the players involved said it wasn't a foul?
@fernandocarrazzoni
@fernandocarrazzoni 4 ай бұрын
@@wpriddy No, I meant Eisley's shot clock violation that should have been a three pointer and Harper's basket that should have been a shot clock violation.
@RowanZaise
@RowanZaise Күн бұрын
Missed calls do happened even in modern NBA, how much more during the 90s...
@peripheralballbuster2720
@peripheralballbuster2720 5 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s also important to point out the Lakers game 6 vs the kings, where kings were up 3-2. The refs proceeded to send lakers to the line 27 times to Kings 9 in the 4th quarter alone, with Tim Donaghy admitting that they were rigging it. Lakers eventually beat them in 7 but if it weren’t for the officiating they wouldn’t have gotten there in the first place
@finalfist2
@finalfist2 5 ай бұрын
Playing justice league unlimited intro is very fitting for bird and magic
@karenwerner615
@karenwerner615 5 ай бұрын
The jla unlimited theme at 2:18 was so nostalgic
@kennylynch8575
@kennylynch8575 5 ай бұрын
LBJ played N the weakest conference threw out his whole career
@MikeBeltMikeBelt
@MikeBeltMikeBelt 5 ай бұрын
You hate for a career.
@kennylynch8575
@kennylynch8575 5 ай бұрын
@@MikeBeltMikeBelt no just telling the truth
@bread1423
@bread1423 5 ай бұрын
He is right
@bread1423
@bread1423 5 ай бұрын
@@kennylynch8575 he is right
@LKS69
@LKS69 4 ай бұрын
​@kennylynch8575 90's was the weakest time son mj is a fraud
@BUGGANG
@BUGGANG 5 ай бұрын
Damn lebron never had a dynasty 🤣🤣
@stump4522
@stump4522 5 ай бұрын
Ofc because he keeps changing team.
@DaniL-ph5ks
@DaniL-ph5ks 5 ай бұрын
​@@stump4522well if he hadn't choked in 2011 then the heatles could've been considered a dynasty
@EA-dweller
@EA-dweller 4 ай бұрын
@@DaniL-ph5ks damn I just realize Ray Allen saved them from chocking again and it was Kyrie who made that 3 points shot in 2016. Now this got me thinking!
@callumbronn
@callumbronn 4 ай бұрын
​@EA-dweller Ray Allen and Ky hit clutch shots, but didn't "save" anyone. Context is key.
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
​@@callumbronn if Ray Allen misses that 3,SEVERE,CRIPPLING damage would have immediately happened to lebrons legacy. In 2016,i dont see anyone on the cavs roster,icluding lebron with the skills and mettle to make that shot other than kyrie irving.
@deshawnthomas
@deshawnthomas 5 ай бұрын
2:47 it will never be lost on me you use this obscure song from Mario Strikers Charged here. I notice this every time and it makes me laugh to hear it again after all this time haha
@robharrison8139
@robharrison8139 Күн бұрын
I'm aware that 1957 to 1969 was long ago and the skill sets were different and there were a lot fewer teams, but it amazes me how many people discount the Celtics winning 11 titles in 13 years. People debate MJ and Kobe, but Bill Russell has as many rings as they do combined! People criticize greats for not winning (took MJ 7 years, Kobe has some bad seasons, James lost a lot of finals, Duncan didn't go back-to-back) as if it's fair to expect a great player to win every single year. However, there was in fact a great player who did win damn near every year, and yet he's not praised at all but completely disrespected as a plumber. It's so strange to me.
@Linmus
@Linmus 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the Spurs dynasty be for 4 rings, you know, considering that their core (Parker, Ginobili, Duncan, Pop) was there for all four. With that being said, you can't compare them to the Heat dynasty because that core was completely different by the time LeBron got there.
@highway2heaven91
@highway2heaven91 5 ай бұрын
I think Kawhi being there in 2014 had something to do with it.
@Mrdonjuliothewicked
@Mrdonjuliothewicked 5 ай бұрын
Bro fell for the bait
@the_boss2194
@the_boss2194 5 ай бұрын
I agree with your take. I believe that the Spurs were a dynasty for that long because, like you said, they had the same fundamental CORE of players and coaching personell. The heat’s core and personell were completely different, outside of Wade, by the time Lebron got there
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
What heat dynasty????😂😅😂😅
@NickAlex08
@NickAlex08 4 ай бұрын
The Heat Dynasty? What's that?
@joely7798
@joely7798 5 ай бұрын
Hi Rebound i think it’s always a good day when you upload
@Boxingbetter-iz4do
@Boxingbetter-iz4do 5 ай бұрын
Joey we don't care
@Zazamiddleton
@Zazamiddleton 5 ай бұрын
@@Boxingbetter-iz4doabout you
@benjaminglazer7217
@benjaminglazer7217 5 ай бұрын
The Knicks were also beasts in the 80s. Bernard King took the Celtics to 7 where each team won their home games
@tsa_entity8658
@tsa_entity8658 5 ай бұрын
Most underrated nba channel swear you and the flight Mike
@HoopsAlert
@HoopsAlert 5 ай бұрын
The I love mom tat on LeBron 😂
@ferdinandrowe2916
@ferdinandrowe2916 5 ай бұрын
You mentioned the expansion era, and showed the “cannon fodder” you’re talking made the playoffs. lol, on one hand he lost to fodder (Orlando) but when they swept them, they went back to fodder? Amazing two of 4 teams made the playoffs, and all of them came in the league the Pistons was the champions. So why don’t they get tagged for the thing as the Bulls? You literally make a mockery of by belittling competition, and it sounds like you’re mad because Lebron wasn’t a part of a “dynasty”.
@420survivorstudios4
@420survivorstudios4 4 ай бұрын
I think in the end we can all agree that the best goat is not Michael Jordan or LeBron James or even magic Johnson but it's none other than Ben Simmons........ *Cough cough* I just joking though I would say that I actually like watching Marvin Johnson who was a part of the bulls in the 70s and 80s as he was a great player when was my coach for basketball for highschool and middle school though I digress, I just want the NBA to add four more teams to its entire league so that way we can have more competition and playoffs can be more impactful
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 5 ай бұрын
12:11 "Burnt out" from playing... a year ago?
@KaedenRukawa
@KaedenRukawa 3 күн бұрын
2016 Championship was undoubtedly historical but the real asterisk to it are: Key players and I repeat, key players were absent on the Warriors to favor the come back. Not denying it's significance but to say all the odds were against them was ironic and on the contrary greatly helped them for easier consecutive wins.
@viperstrike0
@viperstrike0 4 ай бұрын
I think the first Lakers and Celtics biggest asterisk is simply there where half the teams. Basketball is a competition and if less teams are playing thats less competition.
@ElectricAlect
@ElectricAlect 4 ай бұрын
wait did you just say charles barkley did not deserve to be in the olympics because he was not "good"? Bro was an absolute beast during his time in the 76ers, Suns and Rockets but had no help from his teammates. There was a saying when shaq tries to brag about his rings, give him a Dwayne wade or Kobe and he would have had a least a ring or two.
@Jason-sp8xz
@Jason-sp8xz 5 ай бұрын
Bruh, in 2022 the excuse is Warriors beat the Celtics because the Celtics are inexperienced but in 2015 Warriors are inexperienced also but the excuse is that the Cavs were injured and LeBron have no help
@zacharystiff1531
@zacharystiff1531 5 ай бұрын
the thing about the 2016 finals was that draymond got suspended and steph curry slightly tore his mcl so he wasnt running around like he usually does
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
And andrew bogut their only rim protector went down and iggy had a bad back.
@HaikyuuCrow
@HaikyuuCrow 4 ай бұрын
Typical Draymond... not the Cavs fault.
@genaropuido9175
@genaropuido9175 4 ай бұрын
For the Bill Russell Celtics there was also only 8 or 9 teams total in the league. Also there wasn't a free agency like there is today, teams would have to trade you away, so it was easier for good teams to stay good.
@gmwdim
@gmwdim 5 ай бұрын
Also don't forget the Robert Horry / Steve Nash incident in game 4 of the 2007 WCF.
@CiabanItReal
@CiabanItReal 5 ай бұрын
Kobe/Shaq embarrassing their competition isn't an * on them, because what's the appropriate number of wins for an all-time great team to get in a series? Them losing to the Pistons however, is an *
@fica1137
@fica1137 5 ай бұрын
They faced fodder teams
@headforcosby
@headforcosby 5 ай бұрын
No rizz might be the craziest thumbnail in history ngl
@caydenturner1933
@caydenturner1933 5 ай бұрын
Guys I just want to point out that this man is saying the problem with the warriors dynasty was they were too good and talented
@F1nalB0zz
@F1nalB0zz 5 ай бұрын
i like how Kobes second dynasty isnt mentioned considering the fact he went to finals 3 times, won 2 back to back, and as a direct result led to the creation of the big 3 dwade led miami heat.
@KadenWilliamson-c1j
@KadenWilliamson-c1j 5 ай бұрын
Definitely wasn’t the direct result of that team and to say dwade LED Miami heat team is funny😂
@Vennnnnnnnnn
@Vennnnnnnnnn 5 ай бұрын
@@KadenWilliamson-c1j D Wade on record saying it was and you're right Dwade took a step back for Lebron to shine but that speaks to Dwade's versatility to quickly get accustom to being a role player that also took games over when needed.
@jerrytee4239
@jerrytee4239 5 ай бұрын
Took a step back? The man knees disintegrated. By the second season it was very very clear lebron was the number 1. Yall be on one fr.​@Vennnnnnnnnn
@F1nalB0zz
@F1nalB0zz 5 ай бұрын
@@KadenWilliamson-c1j Dwade said it himself that the big 3 was formed because kobe got his 5th title and yes Dwade was the leader all 4 years, he just LET lebron get his stats
@jerrytee4239
@jerrytee4239 5 ай бұрын
@F1nalB0zz super cap. D wade out his own mouth said in order for the team to be successful he had to give the keys to bron he said that before they second season. It also wasent just for kobe several other teams were gearing up to make title pushes while both wade and brons teams were in limbo making no real moves even after lebron two 60+ win seasons they agents called each other and the rest is history
@E9neTheRant
@E9neTheRant 4 ай бұрын
It’s like watching that decoy episode when he says “dynasty”
@pseudo2898
@pseudo2898 4 ай бұрын
Warriors finals makes me think of the 2018 JR Smith THROW
@renzonogueiramargotto3141
@renzonogueiramargotto3141 4 ай бұрын
The 73-9 with unanimous MVP Warriors Team wasn't the KD one, but the Harrison Barnes, Green, Curry and KT. Four drafted players. After Barnes leaves and KD arrives, Warriors wasn't able to even get closer to finish with 73-9 or better. And still with four drafted players, as Bogut leaves and Looney take his place. So, I dont think this situation is similar to USA Team in any aspect, as the USA Team coach have 30 NBA teams to pick any player he want to pick.
@ballthemblack
@ballthemblack 5 ай бұрын
put it this way. If a team wins 3 rings or more in a certain decade then they are a dynasty. That's how it should be. But everyone has their own subjective idea of what it is but that's how me and other people look at it. IJS
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
3 in a 5 year span with a back 2 back.
@ballthemblack
@ballthemblack 4 ай бұрын
You can add back to back but not really because the Celtics didn't win back to back championships in the 80s and they're considered as a dynasty
@michaeloeser9187
@michaeloeser9187 5 ай бұрын
The GOAT and the Dynasty debate are both subjective. That's what makes them fun.
@samconn7276
@samconn7276 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, a Dynasty should probably at least have a Back-to-Back in their run. Also, one could argue that Lebron James was a one-man Dynasty even though he was on 3 different teams: -Back-to-Back Chips (12,13) -3 Chips in 5 years (12,13,16) - same as Spurs -4 Chips in 9 years (12,13,16,20) -8 Straight Finals (11-18) -9 Finals in 10 years (11-18,20) -10 Finals in 14 years (07,11-18,20)
@dredey1971
@dredey1971 5 ай бұрын
No 1 man dynasty. Just greatness personified. He put every team he was on, into contention. He is the guy that shows up at the gym, and if you got next, you know you are winning a couple with him on your team.
@wpriddy
@wpriddy 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. A one man dynasty that has played with more all stars and future hall of famers than anyone in league history. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do it all by yourself. By surrounding yourself with the best talent in the league and still going 4-10.
@dredey1971
@dredey1971 4 ай бұрын
@wpriddy not his fault that other people/team wanted to win championships also. The league is competitive like that. He just put himself in the best position to be successful. He is loyal to himself and his circle. Who are you loyal to?
@arby2726
@arby2726 5 ай бұрын
Boy tiktok is about to have a field trip with this one😂😂😂
@KiloCreations
@KiloCreations 5 ай бұрын
For the spurs if you remove 1999 Tim, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili were on all those teams so i think you can say 2003-14
@alto5052
@alto5052 5 ай бұрын
What is a dynasty would the late 80’s pistons count as a mini-dynasty? Would the cavs also count as a dynasty with the warriors because they consistently went to the finals even if they didn’t win.
@ShaughnTorres
@ShaughnTorres 5 ай бұрын
NBA dynasty is all about winning 3 or more rings
@alto5052
@alto5052 5 ай бұрын
@@ShaughnTorres I see your point but I still think the term dynasty doesn’t have a concrete definition and doesn’t have much of a meaning.
@reubengray6026
@reubengray6026 5 ай бұрын
Gotta win back to back to be a dynasty.
@alto5052
@alto5052 5 ай бұрын
@@reubengray6026 They won back to back though
@tommyzhang8540
@tommyzhang8540 5 ай бұрын
How the hell does this dude make such good points to hate and you cant even be mad?
@arguseyed9982
@arguseyed9982 4 ай бұрын
He doesn`t
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 4 ай бұрын
No rizz is crazy
@gold-man9
@gold-man9 5 ай бұрын
That last Warriors asterisk can be used for every bulls ring except the last one
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
Say what you want,but the Jordan Bulls were the greatest dynasty of modern sports. Cope......and cry if you need to,Lebron Fan,and NO,this gold medal wont help him.😅😂😅😂
@gold-man9
@gold-man9 4 ай бұрын
@@jonthomson9262 the only person coping and crying is you
@jonthomson9262
@jonthomson9262 4 ай бұрын
@@gold-man9 what do i need to cry for.......i see you trying to tear Jordan down to lebrons level.🤣🤣
@gold-man9
@gold-man9 4 ай бұрын
@@jonthomson9262 You’re words speak volumes bud
@localneo-graphic4647
@localneo-graphic4647 5 ай бұрын
rly, the Kobe Shaq dynasty gets a segment for 3 rings, but no 80s Celtics for 4? Or did you ignore it because the double-dynasty narrative would've conflicted with the Spurs critique?
@brianpineda9982
@brianpineda9982 4 ай бұрын
I now understand why KD don’t pass the ball
@EK_Ragz
@EK_Ragz Ай бұрын
Honestly Kobe’s Dynasty should be from 2000-2010! 5 Titles in 11 Seasons is crazy. I really don’t care whether he did it with Shaq or Pau. Phil, Fisher, and Kobe were on all 5 Teams! That’s a Dynasty!
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 5 ай бұрын
It's not about rest for 94-95 Jordan. It's about the fact that his body was literally trained for baseball, which is a completely different type of sport with completely different needs. The 96 bulls were so clearly the best iteration that it doesn't even need to be mentioned. Stop the fucking cap. Damn near everyone on that team, won some type of award or made some type of all nba team. 3 all defensive first team players, 6th man of the year, rebounding and scoring champs, most accurate shooter in the league, the MVP, the coach of the year, the exactive of the year and the most hungry the Bulls have ever been.
@justyouraverageyoutuber5218
@justyouraverageyoutuber5218 2 ай бұрын
5:40 notice how Mikan is by himself. Shows how he doesn’t need a whole super team to 3 peat. I know who my goat is 😤
@2020sTheCashMirt
@2020sTheCashMirt 5 ай бұрын
6:19 this is not goaltending for pippen because they didn't touch the ball or try to block in the goaltending area
@Carbun4732
@Carbun4732 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was more of Shandon Anderson's fault for missing a point blank layup, but he was a rookie during that time so you really can't blame him for missing a clutch shot
@Bluebirdfalling
@Bluebirdfalling 5 ай бұрын
2:56 wtf is a pace factor
@myrusEW
@myrusEW 5 ай бұрын
what’s the asterisk on dillon brooks grizzlies? how is that dynasty not on here
@Prich1010
@Prich1010 5 ай бұрын
While there were some players who needed a job in the off season. This idea that Bill Russell and Wilt played against plumbers is just not really true. There were some players who retired early to make more money, and off season jobs, but no. I think the only person who had a second job in season was a dude in active duty military. Average height was almost the same back then, Russell had to earn it.
@DanielGonzalez-hf6ql
@DanielGonzalez-hf6ql 16 сағат бұрын
This guys MJ analysis was terrible. He doesnt believe MJ was rusty when he came back from baseball. I remember watching back then, he didnt play the same. He clearly looked like he wasnt in basketball shape. This guy clearly wasnt old enough or alive to watch the 90s.
@DKtrek21
@DKtrek21 2 күн бұрын
Argument for the Warriors is applicable to all dynasties. Are we just going to ignore that the Celtics dynasty was a walking Hall of Fame? The Showtime Lakers with Magic basically having his personal dream team? The Bulls having the best player and arguably the second best player along with the best role players in that era? So was the Kobe-Shaq, are we gonna ignore that Kobe and Shaq was the highest scoring duo in playoff history and their supporting cast is made up of the best defensive players in that era? Lastly the Spurs, their core were all stars at some point in their career plus they got a solid young kid in their last chip that went to be a DPOY and FMVP in two separate teams. You can't be a dynasty if you don't stack the best players available. That's a prerequisite. The only bad thing the Warriors did was to trade for the second best player in the league while they had the best record of all time the previous year.
@trixiejanobas1955
@trixiejanobas1955 5 ай бұрын
@9:46 who that old guy
@localneo-graphic4647
@localneo-graphic4647 5 ай бұрын
14:34 ngl, I thought of 1975, when the GOAT won his first and only ring, finally overcoming his absolutely garbage teammates. I might be a bit biased though.
@MrGrekone
@MrGrekone 5 ай бұрын
The NBA is the only sport i know of where choking seems to be regarded worse than just straight up getting dominated. IMO the Lakers losing to the Pistons while not getting close is worse than the Warriors losing out by one game to LEBRON.
@Zamppa86
@Zamppa86 5 ай бұрын
LeBron is the pretty much the only 'GOAT candidate' who has not been a part of a dynasty :D That's why I say he really can't even be a part of the said debate... Jordan had his dynasty, actually two dynasties. Magic had one, Bird had one, Kareem had one like Magic, Kobe had one. Shaq had one. I would also say Hakeem had one. Duncan had one. Russell definitely had one...But LeBron has never had one and most probably will never have one.
@alialissa4688
@alialissa4688 5 ай бұрын
How did Hakeem have a dynasty but not Lebron? And doesn’t him not having a dynasty literally work in his favour in the goat debate??? All these other players had insanely good teammates besides maybe Hakeem, and he only has 2 rings
@ethanmcnaughton9262
@ethanmcnaughton9262 5 ай бұрын
​@alialissa4688 no, it really doesn't help him at all, considering how much help he had and how much less he accomplished than other goat candidates. It makes his case weaker, not stronger.
@Carbun4732
@Carbun4732 5 ай бұрын
Actually, yes, it is partly Pippen's fault for shaking the rim, but c'mon, if I was Shandon Anderson in that moment, I would easily make the layup even with Pippen shaking the rim
@Gedaxy_
@Gedaxy_ 4 ай бұрын
you are not him
@Carbun4732
@Carbun4732 4 ай бұрын
@@Gedaxy_ It's just a layup all I have to do is spin the ball
@georgewood9385
@georgewood9385 5 ай бұрын
My Opinion on the NBA Dynasties: 1950-1954 Lakers (Mikan Era) Mega Dynasty 1957-1969 Celtics (Russel Era) Mega Dynasty 1970-1973 Knicks (Reed Era) 1977-1983 76ers ( Dr.J Era) 1980-1988 Lakers (Magic Era) Mega Dynasty 1981-1987 Celtics (Bird Era) 1988-1990 Pistons (Thomas Era) 1991-1998 Bulls (Jordan Era) Mega Dynasty 1994-1995 Rockets (Hakeem Era) 1999-2014 Spurs (Duncan Era) Mega Dynasty 2000-2010 Lakers (Kobe Era) Mega Dynasty 2011-2014 Heat (LeBron Era) 2015-2022 Warriors (Curry Era) Mega Dynasty
@aarontrainor9918
@aarontrainor9918 5 ай бұрын
Wilts numbers are more 1960s
@CastleNoble
@CastleNoble 4 ай бұрын
MJ and Bulls literally got back to back swept in the same 1st round against the non athletic Celtics ✨✨✨🏀
@Justhim-18
@Justhim-18 2 ай бұрын
And then dominated in the 90s
@tsk50001
@tsk50001 5 ай бұрын
To address the intro, I believe the problem with the goat debate is that they compare their team accomplishments when their individual accomplishment don't back them up as much. Dont get me wrong, I think jordan is the goat over LeBron, but to think 6-0 in the finals counts more than lebrons 10 finals appearances is a little absurd to me. I don't think you guys realize jordans finals runs were absolutely stacked, same with the Russell's Celtics but we don't make Russell the goat with 11-1 finals. Just some double standards to boost jordan in my opinion.
@F1nalB0zz
@F1nalB0zz 5 ай бұрын
@@tsk50001 the only absurd thing is that you equivalate winning it all to just getting there, if you consider the fact he was playing mostly 40 win teams to get to those finals its actually meaningless the fact he got there so many times, ofcourse he got to the finals there was absolutely ZERO competition getting there
@tsk50001
@tsk50001 5 ай бұрын
@F1nalB0zz but all those times jordan couldn't make it either to the playoffs or past the first round are better than making it to the finals? Stay consistent now
@F1nalB0zz
@F1nalB0zz 5 ай бұрын
@@tsk50001 its the same as all the time lebron couldnt make it to the finals. if you dont get there it doesnt matter, when you get there and win is when it matters. besides domt ignore the fact lebron been stacking teams his whole career. and he stil only has 4?? pathetic
@tsk50001
@tsk50001 5 ай бұрын
@F1nalB0zz compared to the bulls, LeBron hasn't had a team like that and lebrons all star teammates get injured before the finals making the team handicapped. Plus LeBron is able to take teams of nobodies to the finals. Jordans couldn't. Take LeBron out of those teams and those teams don't make the playoffs, take jordan out and they make the second round both times
@F1nalB0zz
@F1nalB0zz 5 ай бұрын
@@tsk50001 bullshit. youre full of it but its ok cause will never touch Jordan. was never even able to catch up to Kobe
@SomeDude998
@SomeDude998 3 ай бұрын
That’s a horrible take on MJ. He was conditioned to play baseball. You’re making it sound like he had an advantage of sorts. It’s the complete opposite. 45 wasn’t 23. Still damn good but not 23.
@jamisonweaver3711
@jamisonweaver3711 3 күн бұрын
How you gonna say LBJ better? How many rings does he have? Y'all gotta remember, MJ probably would've had 8 straight had his father not been murdered after #3. RIP, Mr. Jeffery Jordan.
@obinnavictor3458
@obinnavictor3458 2 ай бұрын
People always talk about how the east is weak....forgetting that the warriors went to 5 straight finals in a suppose "strong" west
@DK-oc6sf
@DK-oc6sf 5 ай бұрын
Good video, bro
@bobbyatkins6435
@bobbyatkins6435 2 сағат бұрын
That's why in my opinion there's only 2 dynasties in the NBA and that's the Celtics and Lakers because they have been winning Championships ever since the NBA formed. 17 and 18 Championships those so called other dynasties aren't even close.
@SuperCoreyBlack
@SuperCoreyBlack 4 ай бұрын
Therefore, for me, LeBron is the best basketball player in history. He had success on three different teams and in different situations. All great players have been part of a system, part of strong teams... but what if you were unlucky enough to play with a great coach in a well-coordinated organization? Or was luck not always on your side? The fact that he even appears in discussions about the best players is actually a miracle when you think about it.
@diegochavez6203
@diegochavez6203 4 ай бұрын
😂 he's overrated AF Kobe is the goat
@diegochavez6203
@diegochavez6203 4 ай бұрын
He had to team hopp to get stacked that's a bad thing if anything Gianni's and jokic already did what he couldn't 😂lmfao
@jehuthegreat1291
@jehuthegreat1291 4 ай бұрын
if you go on with what ifs, what if MJ has also the mind like lechoke, inviting great players and not retiring the 94 and 95 season. what if jerry krause did not became a lousy GM that phil will stay and scottie, that leaves MJ ans scottie the only duo never lost in the Finals with recruting star just like lechoke did until 99. a total of 9 rings hard to beat. so hows that as what ifs?
@Justhim-18
@Justhim-18 2 ай бұрын
He would have been if he didn't hang out with the diddler
@Justhim-18
@Justhim-18 2 ай бұрын
​@@diegochavez6203but giannis and jokic had a good supporting cast just compare the players bron took to the finals mo and big z were good but the rest
@kennylynch8575
@kennylynch8575 5 ай бұрын
Warriors championship wasn't rigged the Heat Thunder series was the 1 that was rigged
@austinwang1484
@austinwang1484 5 ай бұрын
Actually
@ajye8935
@ajye8935 5 ай бұрын
2018 WCF game 7
@diegochavez6203
@diegochavez6203 4 ай бұрын
The fianks isnt all that matters kobe beat the moat 50 pkus win teams in history to get to the finals
@v12val
@v12val 4 ай бұрын
You lost me at the Warriors one. “The dynasty doesn’t count because they did it with a good team” 😭??
@MihelessPlayz
@MihelessPlayz 4 ай бұрын
Damn didn’t have to do the spurs like that😢
@jareq1
@jareq1 5 ай бұрын
Can't say that 2019 finals is a stain od GSW dynasty, because Klay and KD were injured. Otherwise 2019 chip would propably stay in bay area.
@Bluebirdfalling
@Bluebirdfalling 2 ай бұрын
tf is no rizz besides another goofy made up phrase for kids
@michaelhenderson7647
@michaelhenderson7647 5 ай бұрын
The maverick sweep the Lakers in 2011 to Kobe Lakers
@dterriousgilmore9151
@dterriousgilmore9151 5 ай бұрын
What about the 2017 & 2018 Western Conference Finals? The Warriors had it made with a Zaza Pachullia-led injury to Kawhi Leonard (Spurs were leading by 21) and an injured Chris Paul (Rockets were up 3-2 in the series).
@therealking69
@therealking69 2 күн бұрын
One game doesn't determine anything. 2017 Warriors were way better than the Spurs on paper. In game one Kawhi was playing out of his mind and Steph Klay Kd etc were all playing worse. Even if the Spurs win that game with Kawhi healthy, the Warriors have positive regression and Spurs negative, Warriors in 5 or 6.
@codg3484
@codg3484 4 ай бұрын
Fire video. Only legit, truly respected dynasty is the Bulls. MJ is the goat forever.
@ItsGili66
@ItsGili66 5 ай бұрын
Where is bird's 80s celtics???
@wayneenglish17
@wayneenglish17 5 ай бұрын
The Celtics only won 3 rings in the 80s and none of them were consecutive, they won in 81 then 84 then 86. So I think he didn’t count them as a dynasty
@reubengray6026
@reubengray6026 5 ай бұрын
Gotta win back to back to be a dynasty.
@BeerAndJointsAllDay
@BeerAndJointsAllDay 5 ай бұрын
@@reubengray6026 When did the Spurs won back to back????
@ididntaskverified3663
@ididntaskverified3663 5 ай бұрын
Spurs went to the finals 6 times as many as the bulls and they won 5
@reubengray6026
@reubengray6026 5 ай бұрын
@BeerAndJointsAllDay I think the Spurs are the only exception. They didn't win back to back, but all of their championships have the same core and same coach and they have 5 of them. It's hard not to consider them a dynasty.
@Sinvincible
@Sinvincible 5 ай бұрын
Man those Bulls criticisms were the “all time” weakest. A missed goaltending call that didn’t guarantee they lost the series, it didn’t even guarantee they lose the game. Might have only ruined “never went to game 7” even tho they’re also the only dynasty to never lose a series at all. Then the “fatigue is more valid then rust” which he kind just made up. But doesn’t that just make it MORE impressive that twice they won after the fatigue of winning back2back? But my favorite was “The ‘92 Bulls were probably better than the 72 win ‘96 team sooooo” sooo the ‘92 team wasn’t ALSO part of the dynasty?
@22airjordan1
@22airjordan1 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I think he just had to make up something for the theme of the video but the Bulls Dynasty is just special. And as time goes on I become more and more thankful I lived through it. Literally there was nothing like it. No game 7 finals, never lost a finals, 72 win team, 2 3peats, denied so many greats rings, had a TEN TIME all scoring champ on the squad, let me repeat TEN SCORING TITLES! Can make all the weak woulda coulda shoulda's but hey...Noone beat them.
@arguseyed9982
@arguseyed9982 4 ай бұрын
Gotta ask yourself, what if they lose those finals? A 5-1 record is gonna ruin their reputation?
@22airjordan1
@22airjordan1 4 ай бұрын
@arguseyed9982 What if? There are no what if's. The Chicago Bulls have never lost an NBA finals. No dynasty can say that.
@emilrwolanski
@emilrwolanski 5 ай бұрын
Mikan wore #99.
@lorde.t
@lorde.t 4 ай бұрын
Saying MJ was coming off of rest is cap. He was still in the minors playing an entirely different sport
@travisbartlett7385
@travisbartlett7385 4 ай бұрын
How in the hell are the 80's Celtics left off? They were the team to beat in the East until 1992
@JamesAllen-c7j
@JamesAllen-c7j 23 сағат бұрын
It can't be 2 dynasties at the same time hu, Niners and cowboys, Lakers & Celtics, Pistons, Celtics & Lakers,Lakers & Spur's, want more
@nichodemus10
@nichodemus10 4 ай бұрын
Leaving off the Bird Celtics is wrong. I would add any team that won 50% of championships over a time span that includes some essential core. That does mean the badboy pistons and dream rockets get in, but you do have to make clear that all dynasties are not the same. It also paints a picture of what the bulls had to overcome to become 'the dynasty' I also would add the LeBron dynasty of just his teams to compare his reign over the eastern conference, but dont think i would extend it to his lakers time as that is too different in concept from his heat cavs days.
@arguseyed9982
@arguseyed9982 4 ай бұрын
Not being mentioned in a diss sound like a win to me
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