Reco Heat unboxing and fitting

[@MegaSweep1]

I tried one of these around 6 years ago and then again last winter on a few different stoves,as a pro sweep it will not be a problem for a sweep to clean through the unit,I found it produced loads of heat I even pumped it into the next room but it lost too much heat when you extend the outlet,all in all if the noise does not bother you it's great

[@TheTortoise]

Thanks for the comment, this was a new gadget to me so I’m glad to hear about your longer term experience.

[@GavinGoodman68]

We fitted one to the stove in our lounge. Have to leave the lounge door open now as the room gets too warm. Certainly keeps the chill off the rest of the house as a result.

[@TheTortoise]

If you use the stove more, you will find the heat pushes further (like an AGA cooker). You may find that running the stove at a lower heat assists with burn time and not over firing the room. But do bear in mind the stove will need running at full temperature regularly to keep things clean both on the glass and in the chimney (just like a car running at 30mph in 5th gear is going to end up clogging things up).

[@GavinGoodman68]

@@TheTortoise we never really planned the stove to be capable of warming the house (a U shaped bungalow) when we built it, as such its placement is such that it's simply too far away to warm all the house. The furthest away bedroom went from 13 degrees to 15 degrees so it will mean that the underfloor heating has less of a job to do.

[@TheTortoise]

@@GavinGoodman68 sounds good? I expect if you keep the stove on more you may find the difference is even bigger!

[@Lord-Brett-Sinclair]

We have had a Recoheat for 3 months, it really helps keep the heat evenly distributed around the room, before we used to get to volcano heat and keep fiddling with the fire. Our pump is in the loft (bungalow) and is 10 meters away mounted on a base on cushioning. Not much noise at all especially if your sat to one side of the airflow. Our log burner is 32 years old and we can’t decide if there is any point if fiddling around changing it . We can also now use the conservatory in winter without the heating on as the Recoheat is pointing directly into the conservatory. We think we are only using around 50% of logs that we would normally to heat the same space 😊. Any questions please ask.

[@TheTortoise]

That sounds brilliant. It certainly makes a difference for me too. A modern stove will improve things further, but also comes with a lot more red tape. In the plus side modern installations are safer, more efficient and make a house sale easy. But on the downside, a new stove is a lot of expense and it’s tricky for it to be financially viable when you’re already getting really good service.

[@leeyo5494]

what power is the pump drawing that has to be considered

[@crosseyxpoweruk]

​@leeyo5494 17 Watts

[@stevechelt1]

I'm having a stove installed in the next few weeks, to replace an open fire, and already have a Recoheat ready to be fitted!

[@TheTortoise]

You’ll have to let me know how you get on!

[@stevechelt1]

@@TheTortoise I will

[@rymoe6299]

Turn your air pump on and try and live with noise and vibration! Before you fit that RECO

[@stevechelt1]

@@rymoe6299 I've set up the pump in a waterproof and soundproof box outside, running the power line and air pipe through the wall, then tested the unit - could not hear the pump outside unless very near the box, the stove part made a slight hiss but not very noticeable. I realise it could be louder when hot, so will have to wait and see.

[@rymoe6299]

@@stevechelt1 good luck I got rid of a fish tank because of the air pump. Same brand as the one use in the video. Like you made a mdf enclosure along with dynamatting. 90% of stoves are too big for the rooms there installed in. So using electric to generate more heat via an air pump In my view is a complete waste of money time and effort.

[@kevinhaworth5935]

Fantastic video. Thank you, can't wait for your future reviews and hope you love it. Can I just say that when people put their hands in front of it for a feel that you warn them to start from a foot out and go in. I've had people try to feel at the outlet and it can be over 300 degrees. Also I have mine pointed towards the door and not directly where you sit. The hot air is annoying and it sends noise. Great for drying your washing as well..

[@TheTortoise]

Yea, I imagine it’s great for washing! I have played around with point it in different directions whilst testing it, definitely made a difference.

[@jimprior180762]

Thanks, you answered a question I had about the possibility of burning your hand if you put it too close to the outlet.

[@kevinhaworth5935]

Wow, we have the same name! I'm in the North of England. Where would you be in the world?

[@dd-yg3cx]

interesting . look forward to your findings.

[@TheTortoise]

I’m still using it, it’s working well 👍

[@marcusd2380]

Thanks for your play to a previous comment on a video. Thinking of putting one of the in but I have a gas pipe from a plant room to the fire place. Going to fit the fan in the plant room and then pipe to the stove. Thinking here is that it will pressurise the room a little and push more warm air around the house. Having the pump in side the room will recirculate a bit. Might be an interesting test for you.

[@TheTortoise]

That’s a good point, potentially if the pump was in a room to the side then you might cause a bit of through circulating heat more efficiently. I guess you would need a well sealed home for it to work well, my house is definitely not sealed, at all…

[@marcusd2380]

@@TheTortoise Well sealed could be a restriction. Pumping air in and lifting the pressure in side a room will push it out around the house more and it has to be brining in fresh air which is help full to stop damp. Im taking it could be acting potentially like a Dry Master. These pump air in to get rid of damp. Fresh heat air has to be benifical

[@TheTortoise]

@@marcusd2380 my house is so leaky you couldn’t have any affect on pressure. I’m sure like with all these things there’s a balance to be aimed for.

[@wendydevereux4375]

Your music is masking the noise😢

[@allanpelan1676]

Very helpful video thanks. Could I put the pump in a soundproof box?

[@TheTortoise]

That’s unlikely, because in order to be soundproof it probably needs to be air tight, which will obviously stop it from working. I would just use copper pipe and pipe it into the loft or another room.

[@victoryfirst2878]

What is the amount of heat the RECO heater put out and how much is the cost ????

[@andrewadam9544]

id like to know the wall thickness of the piping, if you forgot to turn the pump on is that metal coil going to burn out? and as the owner of a fish pond , that pump is nothing more than a pond pump with a diaphragm inside which will split within a year or two at most, does it come with spares ?

[@TheTortoise]

The tube is the same thickness as the actual stove pipe itself so it should last fine. They definitely have plenty of customers (and their own test machines that have lasted years). Mines only done a year so far, but water is far more work to pump, so I don’t think these will have those same issues to be fair.

[@MrJamieking123]

You are a legend! This video is more helpful than all the Recoheat videos combined! How have you been getting on with it? May I ask what type of log burner you have? I have the new 'eco' log burners and wondering whether it would work just as well as an older log burner? Thanks again!

[@TheTortoise]

Obviously I swap things all the time, but the stove used with the Reco-heat in the video was the new Hunter Herald 5 Slim-line Eco. So definitely one of the new style. Old stoves would work fine too though.

[@RATHER5KEPTICAL]

This would have been amazing if the airpressure was powered by a thermoelectric fan.

[@victorimmature]

That looks good , will watch to see how you get on with it, i Love the bit when you were unboxing 2:59 in , There is the wife with the wise suggestion , 😂, what is it with us men where we just digard the instruction manual then swear a lot when it takes longer than if we had just read the dam thing , my ex wife was allways pointing things out to me like "thats upside Down " or "thats round the wrong way " i bet there are Recoheats out there sucking heat out of the room , installed by single men of corse 😄.

[@TheTortoise]

😆 damn instructions!

[@EddRandomCrap]

👍

[@TheSoupdragon1968]

Seems like a good idea, but there must be a way of having a stove top fan producing the electric for the fan to blow air no electricity to worry about. Free to run continuously.....

[@theboycalledleaf]

Oooooh, perpetual motion. I've a feeling that anything mechanical like the pump will always draw more watts than the fan can put in, however I like the idea.

[@TheTortoise]

Yea it’s a good point, but it’s very cheap to run (literally pennies) and to generate enough electricity you’d need quite a bulky thing on top of the stove.

[@Zerobob26]

I thought of the same concept, but a stove fan wouldn't provide enough power to blast the hot air through the coil and around your house. There's got to be a way of harnessing the stove's energy somehow though, to drive the coil.

[@TheTortoise]

@@Zerobob26 you could, but it gives roughly an extra kw of heat and the cost of the pump as is, make it the cheapest kw any stove can produce.

[@kevinhaworth5935]

@@TheTortoise They are working on it but the problem is to generate the airflow. These pumps run 3,600 lph. I have 2 on mine and the top temp drops by about 20 degrees but there's twice as much hot air. Thanks always for thinking about how we can make it better

[@amoryblaine1102]

Coukdnt increasing the outlet diameter help with the noise?

[@TheTortoise]

Yea, but it would also make it less affective at driving the air out. It makes it quieter because the air would push out far slower, but this would also prevent it from driving heat around the house.

[@Zerobob26]

I wonder if there's a way you could redesign it to somehow utilise the heat of the stove itself to drive it, to push the air around the coil. I don't like the fact you need an electric pump, which itself will cost a bit of electric to run, so not particularly economical.

[@TheTortoise]

If you look at the figures the cost vs additional heat make it astoundingly cheap to be fair.

[@stevechelt1]

I think recoheat worked out it only draws about 17 watts, not much at all.

[@TheTortoise]

@@stevechelt1 I’ve forgotten the figures, but I know it wasn’t a big cost.

[@kevinhaworth5935]

37 Watts only. I think the calculation was for average burn over a week was £2.54 electrical cost but the generate the same amount of heat using electric (fan heater) would have cost £54

[@jlczk1337]

Can you run copper pipes to other rooms?

[@TheTortoise]

I definitely think that you can get creative with this, without a doubt.

[@ricardopelc-wesoly3483]

No on/off switch on the pump is annoying plus if you want to install the pump outside and want to connect to power inside you have to cut the sealed plug off and put a standard one on, not a problem though for some!

[@TheTortoise]

Yea. I guess the idea is the pump gets tucked away somewhere and you flick it on and off from the plug. That’s what i do.

[@crosseyxpoweruk]

Just buy a smart plug.

[@ricardopelc-wesoly3483]

Can you incorporate a recoheat kit that will will fit within a 45 degree bend, in theory it can actually be done, it's just a way of modifying the coil with a bend!

[@TheTortoise]

I’m sure you could. I guess it would be a bit more costly due to the design and also the fact that it would be a much rarer sale. Have you not got the space to simply put a bend on top?

[@ricardopelc-wesoly3483]

Unfortunately there is no space other than the 45 degree flue that is on show as the rest of the flue is behind the wall. There is a local blacksmith down the road who says he could fabricate the recoheat coil to fit within the elbow.@@TheTortoise

[@A2J_Tim]

I dont know if you guys are Christians or not, but that is a Christian song you are playing in the back ground and its beautiful.

[@TheTortoise]

That I didn’t know. As far as I was a aware it was a backing track on MusicBed 😆. Either way I trust in Jesus. Not sure I’m Christian though 🤷‍♂️

[@A2J_Tim]

@@TheTortoise if you believe he died for your sin, rose again and repented of your sin asking his forgiveness, you would fall into the category of christian, I prefer to call it adopted child of God. I know the tune you have in the back ground I have heard it many times but the name escapes me.

[@A2J_Tim]

@@TheTortoise I dont know for sure but it could be this song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXTZp4GsgdCKkKcsi=hq5RX9AO9SKVkylY

[@TheTortoise]

That’s the bit that gets me. I’m not sure that what we believe is relevant at all. Beliefs, politics and opinions are like ass holes 😆. We’ve all got them and they seem to be of less use than the proverbial? I quite like the stories, and Jesus (whoever he was) seemed to me to be someone worth copying or perhaps identifying with. I definitely haven’t got it all worked out 😬

[@nickb7040]

My concerns with this are if the coil was ever in any way damaged you could be blowing dangerous fumes into the house or worse. And or would or could the extra air as a result of a potentially damaged or defective coil increase the risk of or cause a chimney fire? I understand the importance of a clean flu but my thoughts on this come from the after burn that takes place in modern stoves where its the actual gases that are on fire and not necessarily the wood. I do wonder on what the impact of this leaking compressed air would be. It would be nieve to think that these coils would never become damaged given the new age of the product, the environment they are in and also the sheer force it takes for the brush to go through it. Brush heads coming off also give me concerns as well as the noise and the fact that it does use electricity albeit not much. Putting pumps in cuboards is also another concern in terms of potential electrical failures and you would always have to remember to switch the thing off. I think its a good idea otherwise! I myself put 600mm of rockwool (made from rocks not glass) above my register plate to stop any heat escaping from there and placed 3 large stove fans. Heats my entire detached house without issues if doors are left open. Most installers wont insulate above the register plate some how thinking a waffer thin peace of metal will do lol! Admitted its not the same as capturing the heat from within the flue but thats my 2 cents.

[@TheTortoise]

I have had all these thoughts, but to be fair my fears were explained away quite well by Reco-Heat. The pressure from the air would not allow any smoke into the coil, it would only blow out, so this smoke issue is not a problem. Further the air in the chimney may increase cooling, but it would introduce any fire hazards. So far they haven’t had any failures that I’m aware of, but they have just been told that it doesn’t require installation by HETAS installers. This gives some confidence as they feel it is safe enough to be installed by a “competent person”, rather than requiring any qualifications. Hope that is useful.

[@jonathanhall8656]

Have seen these before, and an ugly clumsy solution re the air pump, surely some smart flue or stove manufacturer could build a built in flue that did the same?

[@TheTortoise]

It would be cool if recoheat started making flue systems, as you say they could potentially do something quite tidy. But to be fair these are designed to allow you to pipe copper down the chimney so that you could keep the pump in the loft.

[@MegaSweep1]

@@TheTortoise I believe a telescopic unit will shortly be avaliable to ease installation

[@TheTortoise]

@@MegaSweep1 yea, they did say one was on the way.

[@kevinhaworth5935]

@@TheTortoise They have it now

[@kevinhaworth5935]

@@MegaSweep1 They have it now. We are always trying to find ways to make it easier to install both for new and retrofit. Will is an amazing bloke and always up for a chat about how we can do things better. Always feel free to give him a call. There is lots of weird science going on in there

[@A2J_Tim]

I did something similar but different, that does 3 things at once. Its a fresh air inlet that pre heats incoming air from out side and it heats up the room faster and produces more heat and it slows down the burn rate by not letting the fire get direct ice cold dense air which does make alot of heat but also decreases your burn time. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5iUqIWgipmor7Msi=_FN2kUVIfjWesmqW

[@TheTortoise]

Sounds interesting.