Reconciling Qadaa & Qadar with Free Will | Justin Parrott

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[@TheMuslimApologist]

🎯 *Key Takeaways* for quick navigation: 00:00 📚 In Islamic theology, contrasting terms like Islam, Iman, and Ihsan have nuanced meanings. Islam refers to outward deeds, Iman to beliefs, and Sam to mindfulness of Allah. 01:08 🌌 "Qadaa" is the general decree for the universe, while "Qadar" is the specific decree for individuals. This aligns with the concept of the Preserved Tablet, where everything is inscribed by God. 02:56 🤲 Free will is a firmly established concept in Islam, but it is subject to Allah's will. Allah can take it away or change our decrees based on our actions. 03:42 🤯 The challenge lies in rationalizing how everything is decreed while we still have some control. Allah operates outside of time and space, which makes it difficult for our limited minds to comprehend. 05:04 📖 Allah communicates complex concepts through imagery, parables, and stories in the Quran to make them accessible to people of all levels of education and languages. 06:14 🙏 Allah can change decrees based on His will. Hadith and Quranic verses indicate that actions like upholding family ties can lead to increased provision and lifespan through Allah's decree.

[@ramykhaleel3515]

Mr. Williams, what he said I think is correct. And I have a similar way of explaining this issue. The core principle here is that for Allah subhanahu wa taala there is no future. Because he created the time, everything for him is past. Now he subhanahu wa taala free will and he knows what we are going to do. So, he wrote what will be our choice, but doesn’t force or impose on us our actions. A good example would be if you have two sons and you promised who will get high grade in college that you will buy him a car. You know one of them is dedicated and responsible and the other is careless and bum. And you provide a good environment for both equally to study. Then, you go and buy one car and registered it with the name of the one you know will pass the test. At the end of the school year. The stupid careless one cannot tell you that it is you the reason for his failure. This example is definitely over simplification of Almighty power but it provides some clarifications. The core problem for humans is how Allah subhanahu wa taala knows the future and that is something beyond our comprehension.

[@sheriffsaliu9872]

Well explained. Even though my brain knows this, I have to constantly tell myself to not get into the rabbit hole of overanalyzing Qadr. It is a scary thing to know you are predestined to a certain future or fate and yet not know what it is which can cause paralysis.

[@ettaibabdelali6675]

MashaAllah brother Justine . Allah exalted creat every thing by the word BE .

[@I.wish.to.you.fine.]

لا اله الا الله وحده لا شريك له ومحمد رسول الله

[@lejenstudio]

Qadar is a ratio, balance or decision. Everything happens by calculation and God is the best Calculator. Qada' is a path. Every path has its own known end. A path provides an option to chose for and that creates a free will.

[@Alwadie07]

This is actually wrong my brother, you’ll never find this understanding in the Qura’an or sunnah or the teachings of sahabah. Actually, you’ll find the sahabah asking Mohammad “صلى الله عليه وسلم” in the sahih hadith: “Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: "We were attending a funeral at Baqī‘ aI-Gharqad (Muslim cemetery in Madīnah). The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) came to us and sat down, and we sat down around him. He had a small stick in his hand. He lowered his head and started scraping the ground with the stick, then said: "There is none among you, except that his seat in Paradise or in Hell is decreed." They said: "O Messenger of Allah, should we depend on what has been decreed for us?" The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Exert the effort, for everyone will find it easy to do such deeds that will lead him to what he was created for...”. In the same time, we have to believe that Allah is Just and no one will enter paradise without his mercy or hell without his Justice because we know that from the Qura’an and Sunnah. With that, it’s best to believe in all of this and not enter the philosophical world which one cannot be saved from after entering deep unless if it Allah helped him from it. May Allah grant us Jannat Al-firdous.

[@aiya5777]

god doesn't calculate what's going to happen, *he knows exactly* what's going to happen

[@lejenstudio]

@@aiya5777 In one word, destiny. In a simple English, we plan but God is the best planner. This universe has its Designer, it doesn't come out randomly or evolves from nothing. As a muslim, we've to believe there is a Creator and we are subjected to His decision.

[@aiya5777]

@@lejenstudio if you were ended up in hell is that also God's best plan for you?

[@aiya5777]

Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.” is that also God's best plan for the prophet muhammad's father?

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[@029Kabeer]

Thanks 👍👍

[@unauthorizeduser7596]

thank you!

[@ХикматллоЗакиров]

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[@Nurita_980]

What i love from Islam is if muslims follow what Rasulullah saw teches, we have same understanding.

[@Alwadie07]

May Allah bless you

[@yazidyusop]

Very good explanation

[@youteubakount4449]

Can we understand that what is written in the preserved tablet is the entirety of the available options to us and what will happen between the points where we have to exert free will, and Allah allows us to make choices at those moments? Then Allah confirms or denies what he wills among the options according to what we pick. Does this understanding contradict the Quran and Sunnah ?

[@zarahm43]

Masha Allah Brother Justine! What a beautiful, wholesome and easy to understand answer to the biggest question of humanity which is free will call Qadar! May Allah SWT Almighty increase your in deen and dunya. Same to you brother Paul. Ameen

[@aacc5984]

MashaALLAH wise talk

[@sultanhussain9725]

More rational and logical explanation. Jazakallah

[@ozeripek507]

I highly recommend you to read about Qadar in 26th word of book of the words of Risale-i Nur Collection by Said Nursi

[@yahiiiaplays1252]

So it's somewhat like this: ALLAH has no time scale. You are in Hell or Heaven already at the same time as you are on earth, since ALLAH is not bound by time at all. Anything that isn't ALLAH will perceive free will, but ALLAH Himself simply sees your decree. To that extent, if you insult ALLAH, it's an eternal insult, perceived before time and space existed. In ALLAH's perception, everything happens all at once, no delay through neural pathways or light bouncing off of objects, it is one infnite point where all information exists without time constraints. We have the free will, because we don't know our decree. The fact that we do not have future knowledge and are limited in perception, which allows us to even register time to begin with, is why we can have free will at the same time as divine decree existing. The timeline is created by perception itself. Infinite perception = no time. limited perception = time. If a human saw everything, there would be no perception of time for it. If you don't know what will happen next, you still have a choice, simply because you don't know what happens next. ALLAH knowing that something will happen doesn't change YOUR perception of it. We don't even have to involve ALLAH in any of this. It's literally the idea of Schrödingers cat. Divine decree only exists after it has been observed and free will can only exist before the observation has taken place. It's just that ALLAH is ahead of the curve and already observed it, whereas you're about to observe it, but the very fact that you didn't observe it makes it free will. We should start using rigorous scientific/logical methodology when we talk about Islam and God. Just because something happened doesn't mean I didn't have a choice. I have a choice until it happens. God can't operate with time constraints, so there is no, "he decreed this for then and this for that time", God decrees. That's it. God grants free will. There is no time period in which He could have decreed it, it always exists in His perception. It's perpetual. He is literally feeding you for all eternity the second you make contact with your sandwich and every moment where you are chewing the sandwich is also infinitely perceived. If you have mental illness, you can't be called an observer, so that's how free will vanishes and ALLAH forgives them automatically. I also must say, no, it's not a difficult rational problem. Rationality means you are aligning yourself to reality. Humans just can't be fully rational, since they are so limited and weak. So it's more of a irrationality problem. When ALLAH confirms something, He's confiming it only to us, whereas if He erases something He only erases it from our perception or the from the perception of all of creation.

[@wanhas4534]

During discussion of qadaa and qadar, confusion arises when the dicussion goes out to discuss free will and what being enforced. Free will is limited to what we as human decide to act. Eg free speech. But we are not free to do things against other non human designed to do. For example when we walk to a wall, it is free will to just go around the wall, or hit against the wall. By hitting the wall you cannot take excuse for hurting your self. That is the will given to the wall, you cannot blame the wall. The wall will hurt you by doing so. That is the qadaa. How bad you will be hurt depends on how hard you crash on. We (God) will punish according to what you had done. Won't that fit the qadar? We can only discuss what is within our realm. It will be terribly confusing when discussion fall into the realm of God, what God intend, do, or enforce in detail.

[@AscnetAgent]

Allah knows the past, the present, the future, and he knows what will never happen and how it will happen if it really happens.

[@tomasino3572]

If you ask the AI chatbot (sorry that's the last pastime at the workplace those days) it is possible to get a very gentle introduction to Alain Connes theory on time, in particular a thing the mathematician proves in its framework (Connes is a mathematician indeed) that a person with infinite knowledge feels not the passing of time. In short, Connes explains, and you can get the lengthy version with the bot, that time arises from the processing of information. Everyone is more or less slowly processing information all the time so to say, thus the boundaries of time. For Allah (swt,) so, we have here a mathematical statement deriving His non dependency on time from His well known All-knowingness. I've found it interesting that recent frameworks of rigourous mathematics is contributing to this topic.

[@thegent2716]

I believe that surah 9, verse 106 settles the whole discussion about Qada and Qadar.

[@ukimenustah26]

elaborate please

[@sacredrider]

I think you are confusing with 105

[@thegent2716]

​@@ukimenustah26 Just read the verse and you will understand, I really don't have to elaborate

[@thegent2716]

​@@sacredriderNope, I am absolutely not.

[@sacredrider]

@@thegent2716 the verse has nothing to do with Qada and Qadar. It is talking about the exception a few sahaba from verse 105. You are either absolutely confused or absolutely trying to make confusion.

[@ziauddin7948]

this Qada wa Qadar issue is extremely important & complicated # there is a hadith ( i have to confirm who has narrated it ) that Prophet said " the 1st thing or object Allah had created was pen & ordered pen to write . Pen said O my Lord what should i write ???? Allah said write every thing which will happen or which will occur " ( that is Qada wa Qadar ) # but there is a issue # since this Hadith clearly declares that before creating any thing Allah had written every thing which will occur # it clearly means before creating Adam & Eve Allah had written that they will be expelled from heaven ( Jannah ) # but even after Allah had written it Allah said to Adam " فلا یخرجنکما من الجنت فتشقی " be careful the Satan should not expel U ( Adam & Eve ) from heaven " #

[@madyasiwi]

Had Allah not said that, Adam would not have learned that the outcome of their action was the result of neglecting the warning. This ayah is a lesson related to "وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَنزَلْنَـٰهُ قُرْءَانًا عَرَبِيًّۭا وَصَرَّفْنَا فِيهِ مِنَ ٱلْوَعِيدِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَّقُونَ أَوْ يُحْدِثُ لَهُمْ ذِكْرًۭا"

[@ziauddin7948]

@@madyasiwi the issue is if Adam & Eve had asked Allah ok we understand the warning but what decision , Qada wa Qadar , U ( Allah ) have already decided Allah would have said expulsion from heaven #

[@nl.dauhoo]

This is the Wahabbi version of the first creation. There are Orthodox versions that state water was created first and then everything from it or others that state the Ruh of Hadhrat Muhammad Swalalahu Alayhi Was Salaam Was created first and then everything from it. Whatever these are topics for SCHOLARS to grapple with not laymen or lay women like me. This is not a question that I will be asked in my grave. I love ❤ that the speaker, here, is referencing from Hajar Asqalani Rahmatullahi Alayhi, who is famous Orthodox scholar, who was well respected for his knowledge by his peers in his era. What I've learned though it's that destiny as written in the book on the table cannot be changed. The changes only happen in our personal books through du'as, but Allah knows through His eternal Knowledge that we were going to choose to repent or ask du'a for something and that it would be granted. As for your asking about Hadhrat Adam Alayhis Salaam, there is no confusion. The same principle applies. Through his eternal knowledge, Allah Azza Wajjal knows that Hazrat Adam Alayhis Salaam was going to sin and then regret and repent. He would also accept his punishment

[@nl.dauhoo]

​@@ziauddin7948Apparently there is an ayah of the Qur'an or a hadith about a conversation between hazrat Adam Alayhis Salaam and Allah Azza Wajjal. But, instead of revolting like Ibliss, hw showed regret and asked forgiveness for his mistake.

[@ziauddin7948]

@@nl.dauhoo i will check the Hadith " 1st thing Allah created was pen " # if this Hadith is reliable & authentic then all others will be rejected #

[@tsurumikutaro7642]

العبد في الظاهر ذو اختيارِ والجبر باطنًا عليه جاري فكان من عجائب الجبارِ أن يجبر العبد بالاختيارِ. The servant outwardly has a choice, but inwardly coercion is imposed on him, so it was one of the wonders of the Almighty that he forced the servant by choice.

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الإسلام هو الإستسلام لله تعالى بالتوحيد والإنقياد له بالطاعة والبراءة من الشرك وأهله، قال الله تعالى: {بلى من أسلم وجهه لله وهو محسن فله أجره عند ربه ولا خوف عليهم ولاهم يحزنون}. قال الطبري رحمه الله: (أما قوله: {من أسلم وجهه لله}، قال: يعني بإسلام الوجه التذلل لطاعته والإذعان لأمره، وأصل الإسلام: الإستسلام، لأنه من استسلمت لأمره، وهو الخضوع لأمره، وإنما سُمّيَ المسلم مسلما؛ ًبخضوع جوارحه لطاعة ربه)بعدما علم النبي ﷺ بمقتل "أبوجهل" وهو في ساحة (بدر) ، كبّر ، ثم نادى على أصحابه قائلًا لهم : «ائتوني بعمار بن ياسر» ، فلما جاؤوا ب "عمار" ضمه النبي ﷺ وقال له : «أبشر ياعمار لقد ثار الله لأمك وأبيك». على الرغم من أن غالب الصحابة قد تجرعو كل صنوف العذاب على يد صناديد قريش ، إلا أن "آل ياسر" قد تفردوا بحالة خاصة ، حالة جعلت النبي ﷺ يمر من أمامهم وهم بين يدي الظلمة فلا يستطيع أن يقدم لهم شئ فيبشرهم : «صبرًا آل ياسر فإن الموعد الجنة» "عمار" الذي قُتلت أمه "سمية" أمام عينيه أبشع قتلة وهو ينظر إليها قهراً ولا يملك إلا الصبر والإحتساب ، ثم يموت أبوه بعد أيام قهراً وكمداً عليها . هكذا تمضي سُنة الله في إصطفاء عباده ، وكما أن للنعيم درجات فللإبتلاء درجات ، وكلما عظم بلاء الرجل عظم قدره عند ربه ✋لا تترك الحق ولو قلّ مناصروه، واسلك طريقه ولو قل سالكوه،🖐 ولا تأخذ بالباطل ولو كثر مؤيدوه... فكثرة الأتباع وقلتهم ليست معياراً لشوكة الحق والباطل...😑 فدين نوح ﷺ هو دين محمد ﷺ ، وقد دعا نوح ٩٥٠ سنة فتبعته قلة قليلة ؛🤲 ودعا محمد ٢٣ سنة فتبعته خير أمة أخرجت للناس .🤲 فالأتباع بيد الله ﷻ يزيدون وينقصون لحكمة هو يعلمها، وما على الرسول إلا البلاغ..👇 ✋ولو بحثت عن كلمة " أكثر الناس " ⛔في القرآن لوجدت بعدها .. !!! ( لا يعلمون - لا يشكرون - لا يؤمنون )🚫 ولو بحثت عن كلمة " أكثرهم " لوجدت بعدها ... !!! ( فاسقون - يجهلون - معرضون - لا يعقلون - لا يسمعون )❎ فكن انت من القليل الذين قال الله تعالى فيهم :✔✅ { وقليل من عبادي الشكور } { وما آمن معه إلا قليل }🌹 { ثلة من الأولين وقليل من الآخرين }🌹 قال ابن القيم - رحمه الله : عليك بطريق الحق ولا تستوحش لقلة السالكين⚪ .. وإياك وطريق الباطل ولا تغتر بكثرة الهالكين ..🤯 جعلنا الله وإياكم من أهل الصلاح والفلاح .. اللهم إجعلنا من عبادك القليل كن دوماً خارج السرب.. غرِّد و حلِّق عكس اتجاه القطيع لا تسمح لاتباع الظلام ان يملئوا رأسك بالأكاذيب دافع عن توحيدك و ادفع افكارهم الالحادية الشركية الشاذة المنحرفة ضد الفطرة والإيمان التى يفرضونها فرضا على الجميع منذ بدا التلفزيون في اختراق عقول البشر وتوجيه الوعي إلى الاوعي هو فخّ اللعين نفسه قد أقسم بعزة الله.. انتبه ..تــيــقَّــظ ...لا تنزلق في الوهم ✊🏻وَكَذَلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبِّ النَّاسِ * مَلِكِ النَّاسِ * إِلَهِ النَّاسِ * مِن شَرِّ الْوَسْوَاسِ الْخَنَّاسِ * الَّذِي يُوَسْوِسُ فِي صُدُورِ النَّاسِ * مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ صدق الله العظيم

[@Tarzanjesusisdead]

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[@msdietitian5353]

Our free will is not something that we own but rather something that is given to us by ALLAH. So, yes, no one can take free will from us except the one who gave it to us which is ALLAH. In a sense, its free will subject to ALLAH’s control. Meaning, we have free will because ALLAH allowed us to have it. So, think of free will as a circle inside a bigger circle. This bigger circle is ALLAH’s power and control over our free will. So, our free will is contained within ALLAH’s control because he can take this free will from us any minute. For example, you lose free will when you die, when you lose your mind, etc. With that in mind, Our decisions are made with total free will, but we couldn’t have made them freely if it was not for ALLAH given us the freedom to make these decisions. For example, you give you son $20 and tell him you can buy anything from the store. Your son has total freedom to pick whatever he wants, and you are not influencing his decision what to pick form the store, but his freedom to buy anything is controlled by you, the father. So, the fact is the son can’t buy anything without you allowing him to do it and yet you are not controlling his decision to buy anything because you gave him the freedom to chose that you know you could take away from him if you decided to do so. So, we do have free will to believe in whatever we want but we couldn’t be able to do so without ALLAH allowing us to do that. So, people couldn’t have chosen (having free will) to be become Muslims without His permission to do so (ALLAH given us free will to do so). So, people couldn’t have chosen to be become Christians without ALLAH’s permission to do so. ALLAH will guide to the truth those who wants to be guided to the truth and ALLAH guide to falsehood those who do not want to be guided to the truth. For example, someone who can clearly see contradictions in the Bible but still insist it’s the truth, ALLAH will guide him to that belief because he freely chose to follow that path of false belief. Another example, someone who is not reading the Quran to sincerely see if it is the truth or not, but rather he wants to show the Quran is false, ALLAH will guide him to that end and you see that person talking about all sorts of contradictions in the Quran and will never listen to any rational responses. And so on

[@abdulvahid9043]

Who ever claims that Allah oppresses people and then punishes them has forged a lie and kufr against Allah teala because He is just Adl Who ever claims that somethings will can prevail the will of Allah teala has also ascribed inability to Allah which is also kufr Qadr predestination is all trough knowledge and not trough forse Glory be to Allah teala nothing resembles Him

[@rakibahsan004]

Assalamualaikum i am a Muslim.I have a question and it is that quran has mentioned that allah has 2 hands,shin,eyes. But we know that allah is nothing like humans.Then why did allah say this?

[@truewassabian2491]

W/salaam sister this has been discussed by many Muslim scholars/people studying the deen. If I can remember correctly, Mohammed Hijab and the group at Caliph have elaborated on this. There are also plenty of trusted videos on KZbin you can consult regarding this.

[@mahmoodrahmat6207]

Please let me know which ayat and surah it's in.

[@mt000mp]

hands [yad] = possessor , owner , controller face [Wajh] = outlook , sight its not literal , its about the characteristic of a function that is attributed to an action being perceived.

[@rakibahsan004]

@@mt000mp thank you for your responding but i have seen many scholars say that this is literal idk why

[@rakibahsan004]

@@mahmoodrahmat6207 In a Hadith it is mentioned that Allah has two hands and both of His hands are right

[@intannera30]

Better late than never

[@beehivepattern5695]

Our will is depended and caused by a complex things in Universe, as if that our will is like only self controlled. In the smallest scale its is too much to comprehend, Atoms in our body, wave, gravity,etc is part of the causations. In our level of existance also intervene the destiny such as social-politics. In higher level also contributes to the destiny, such as weather and cosmic events. When the entire universe fit into one human logic brain🤯 There is no hadith explain this only some of scholar opinions, which is dont take it seriously but its kind of correlated into contradictive and pair, like some of God Attributes. Most people through history would simply ignorance then say Wallahu a'lam that is beyond our comprehension. In my opinions whenever the pair attributes were established, then there is a God 😎

[@madyasiwi]

Maybe there are easier way to help laymen understand compatibilism. Consider the following thought experiment: I ask you to play a computer game on a machine I provide. While you're immersed in the game, I secretly record your game from start to finish. Next, imagine I have the time travel ability. I go back in time, taking the recorded gameplay with me to the past. Upon my return to the past, I ask you once more to play the same game. However, this time, unbeknownst to you, I disconnect the keyboard and mouse. And instead of launching the game for you to play, I just replay the recorded game. From your perspective, you feel as though you're actively engaged in the game just as you did the first time. You are unaware that what you're seeing is pre-recorded, and that you don't actually have any control due to the disconnected peripherals. In a nutshell, you're "playing" a pre-recorded game (predetermination) with a sense of freedom (freewill), thus compatibilism.

[@nl.dauhoo]

Sorry! But your explanation is confusing.

[@hermontarmand2404]

As a gamer my self I understand what you mean.

[@Alwadie07]

This is 100% the teachings of sunni scholars for Qadar, but philosophers just wanna set down and think and talk instead of surrender “Islam!” to Allah swt.

[@Monolith1616]

Compatibilism - Neat circumscription of philosophers throwing their hands up and just ignoring blatant contradictions.

[@conjugatemethod]

No it isn’t

[@Yazan8565]

There really isn't a coherent worldview in theism/non-theism that can adequately reconcile free will or determinism with the reliability of epistemology and agency (Of God and of Humans).

[@KumailAhmed]

For a moment I thought he had an answer. In reality, it is just empty talk.

[@snf321gotti6]

The answer you're looking for does not exist in any way possible in your reality but the question is present in your reality.

[@HussainFahmy]