Recording Video Images on Audio Cassettes

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Janus Cycle

Janus Cycle

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@christoffermedc
@christoffermedc 4 жыл бұрын
Your sense of music is just amazing :'3 dark ambient and industrial, and here i thought I'd never see content creators with similar taste to me. oh awesome video btw :)
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this comment. Music is important to me. It's great to hear that someone else really appreciates this style as well.
@christoffermedc
@christoffermedc 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle yeah we're too few and far between. we're too underground for our own good.
@christoffermedc
@christoffermedc 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle i got rely inspired to explore the soundscape possibilities of this audio -> video method. Wondering if the is noticeable symmetry in music if find beautiful, or whether it differ from "normal/radio" music
@t0nito
@t0nito Жыл бұрын
This would be cool to have like a secondary "hidden" video on a VHS tape, if you record this signal on a hifi track of a VHS tape it should have more than enough bandwidth as it goes up to 20kHz, so essentially you have two simultaneous video signals on the same tape! Also Wow and flutter on VCRs are very low as speeds have to be very stable.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Really good idea, more experiments one day :)
@thomashenden71
@thomashenden71 Жыл бұрын
How about trying a reel to reel tape machine at 7.5/15/30" / sec? 🙂
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind Жыл бұрын
@@thomashenden71 I’d love to see one with two-inch-wide tape and a spinning head drum.
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind Жыл бұрын
Why is it everyone who comes to this video is thinking of the exact same stuff?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
@@AmaroqStarwind Great minds think alike :)
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 3 жыл бұрын
Omg they are perfect for a scary movie
@jessihawkins9116
@jessihawkins9116 Жыл бұрын
no
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 Жыл бұрын
@@jessihawkins9116 that was 2 years ago man
@jessihawkins9116
@jessihawkins9116 Жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 no
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 Жыл бұрын
@@jessihawkins9116 yes
@therealloganyt237
@therealloganyt237 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@in-tuition-fj9840
@in-tuition-fj9840 Жыл бұрын
Great experiment of making video from an audiocassette and playing it on an UMPC, the first scene was creepy and your music really added the effect to it. That Fisher Price retro toy was ahead of its time. I really like how you make your videos and your music. Thank you, Janus for sharing.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Your comments are very encouraging. I put a lot of effort into sharing how it feels to explore technology. I really appreciate when someone notices. Keep sharing your own experiences, that's what makes the world a better place.
@RainDownpours
@RainDownpours Жыл бұрын
I like many things in this video. It combines my fascinations of cassette tape and analog video, it introduces a software that I didn't know existed. Just, wow!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad this was an enjoyable experience for you :)
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
Haha, I recognised the Max Headroom hack of course. The TNG screen tests were a nice surprise, but I know they made the rounds as creepy videos a while ago. Recognised the latter mostly by the cadence of the actors' motion, and Patrick Stewart's bald head, than any visible details! And mostly just recognised the former by the background :)
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Well done, It's interesting that character movement was how you recognized them.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle the “mugshot” style turning, facing, and holding still is pretty distinctive for screen tests! Then it was just a matter of narrowing it down from there :) the fact this was the test with the finished costumes, rather than the one with civilian clothes with visor prototypes etc, helped too!
@jshacquille
@jshacquille Жыл бұрын
Came here from Hugh Jeffreys and have been binging your videos ever since! Keep up man
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Thanks, enjoy
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind Жыл бұрын
I immediately recognized Star Trek: The Next Generation and “The Max Headroom [Impersonator] Incident”, though it helps that I was recently thinking about both.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Well spotted, nice!
@EricGranata
@EricGranata 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the coolest channels I’ve stumbled upon. Got here searching for info on pagers.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's great you found my pager video first, that's really interesting.
@graealex
@graealex 4 жыл бұрын
2:40 Exactly what I needed before bed time. And I do hope the KZbin algorithm picks one of your videos up soon. This is way underrated.
@giraffebecky
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
3:26 - Picard looks like an alien! That was Picard right??? And Tasha Yar and Riker! and Geordi! This is awesome!!!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Yes, all TNG crew members! the video was production test shots of the crew, made before the first episode was filmed.
@giraffebecky
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Oh!!! That's interesting! That's why it seemed so different! Thanks for letting me know!
@AlanAasmaa
@AlanAasmaa 4 жыл бұрын
Simple, Clean, Scary, Techy great video !
@johnnyfed9102
@johnnyfed9102 3 жыл бұрын
realizing I was seeing the Max Headroom broadcast while scary music played was one of the funniest things I've watched in a minute. Also very informative video very useful thank
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
It can really make my day to hear about the sort of experiences people have watching my weird videos. I really enjoyed your comment. Thank you for letting me know.
@troysvisualarts
@troysvisualarts 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I find old video tech and curiosities like video on audiotape very fascinating and I so happen to be a member of the NBTV group! I instantly recognized Max Headroom impersonator and Star Trek Next Generation guy. Anyhow might think of experimenting with video to audiotape myself.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad to hear you enjoyed this. The NBTV standards are really interesting. I'm so glad I found the group and started messing around with it. Cassette decks can really degrade this sort of precise signal, so I was stoked to actually get a working image.
@thanthanasiszamp4707
@thanthanasiszamp4707 Жыл бұрын
The Star Trek guy, is Jean-Luc Picard btw.
@MylesSmith-q4y
@MylesSmith-q4y 9 ай бұрын
Regardless of the quality it's still an image.
@themeantuber
@themeantuber Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to do this when I was a kid. Now I now what the result would have been more or less 🙂 Thank you for sharing this.
@natethefighter
@natethefighter 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I wonder if a reel-to-reel, playing at a faster speed, would have better picture stabilization? I might have to experiment with this myself.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think a quality real-to-real would produce a somewhat better, more stable image. If you do try, I'd like to know how it goes.
@charlesloukas1946
@charlesloukas1946 Жыл бұрын
Maybe use a hi-fi VHS but use the audio track?
@derpmansderpyskin
@derpmansderpyskin 2 жыл бұрын
how could I have possibly known that this would _not_ be a safe video to watch while high? this is the last thing I expected to spook me!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Life can be uncertain. This one is much more chill, like sitting in a comfy chair. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH6xiaOAicmJq80
@lizichell2
@lizichell2 Жыл бұрын
This is the set up used to capture every existing footage of big foot
@Irongrip62
@Irongrip62 Жыл бұрын
What would be the effect of applying various audio EQ to the tape before playback? Would it completely blow the signal to shreds? Maybe some "interesting" effects could be achieved.
@Rivenworld
@Rivenworld Жыл бұрын
It's like watching beings from another world trying to communicate back in the 50's lol
@j377yb33n
@j377yb33n 4 ай бұрын
This kind of opens a lot of possible experiments to see what other recording mediums or audio compression standards will do to the signal
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 ай бұрын
Yes! I want to revisit this experiment with more devices in the future.
@j377yb33n
@j377yb33n 4 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle I'd actually love to see his with varying levels of mp3 compression, just to see what the data loss does
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 ай бұрын
@@j377yb33n Ooh, that is a good idea. I have a voice recorder that can record in 192, 128, 48 and 8 kbps. I will try this. Could make a good video.
@yorgle
@yorgle 2 ай бұрын
This would be neat to run through audio filters. Like an EQ, echo, flanger etc…
@potassiumchloride6968
@potassiumchloride6968 2 ай бұрын
the ambience of your video is😘🤍🤍🤍
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@claudiosalib774
@claudiosalib774 Жыл бұрын
The video quality of recording footage onto a standard compact cassette tape results in what one could imagine if recording of a live video stream across the barrier of time or dimensions were possible. It would create a frighteningly and chilling account of the bizarre possibilities of what the Universe could present to us. Perhaps it is best not to temper with things that we were never meant to know. 🙄
@Kennephone
@Kennephone Жыл бұрын
In 1927 John Logie Baird, the father of TV, recorded video signals onto a 78.
@deeiks12
@deeiks12 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to use the tape mechanism of the pixelvision camera to record and playback the 'modern' compressed narrow band tv signal.
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 14 күн бұрын
The video playing was from an episode, or clips from multiple episodes from Star Trek TNG. Awesome soundtrack together with playing the spooky looking video. 16.875 inches of tape passing the head every second, from this you could work out how much video you could fit on 1 side of a tape, then double that number, but I'm too tired to equate, I'll let someone else do the mathematics for a change 😅
@andreacaredduofficial
@andreacaredduofficial Жыл бұрын
what is the name of the software to change the output quality and record the tape?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
It's called NBSCPlayer, make sure you check the NBTV forums for the latest info.
@awjaaa
@awjaaa Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Already no longer available... broken download link on their site.
@CryptToneMusic
@CryptToneMusic 4 ай бұрын
Gonna have to use this for some Analog horror or a music video!
@abaneyone
@abaneyone Жыл бұрын
Star Trek The Next Generation first season.
@lutello3012
@lutello3012 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I converted that same Max Headroom to NBTV! I was excited to see if that software did a better job at displaying the videos I had previously recorded to audio cassette, but for some reason it was WAY worse, couldn't sync at all. Is there a way to make NBSC videos from a video file with this software or is screen capture the only input method?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
The only way to convert video with NBSC is screen capture. It's more flexible that way but must be done real time.
@Dane-dv1ik
@Dane-dv1ik Жыл бұрын
I always like your background music
@zsewqthewolf1194
@zsewqthewolf1194 2 жыл бұрын
i always wonder with that PXL-2000, would it have worked better if it just use more then one tape like 2 3 4 maybe 6? of them in a plastic housing uniting and you put the timer on the cam unit of how many mins you have to record or to play and it just use all the tapes at once to make a good video image?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean several tapes at the same time with the signal split across them? That's interesting. The PXL-2000 records the video information on the left audio channel of the cassette, and the audio on the right channel. If the PXL-2000 had used both sides of the tape at the same time that would have really helped. You would still have one channel for audio. But now three for video, triple the amount of information for the video signal. Add a second cassette and you can get stereo audio and six times the bandwidth for much better video. But this does make it much more complex and expensive for what was sold as a toy. It was just such an amazing toy for it's time that we still talk about it today.
@zsewqthewolf1194
@zsewqthewolf1194 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle becasue its a shame i don't have the money or know how to do a project like this to make it possible, would have been cool if that was done
@zsewqthewolf1194
@zsewqthewolf1194 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle also to be fair toys in the past have indeed push computers to become faster and better in odd ways, I mean just look at the Z80 alone powered 70% of toys of the 80s lot alone the 90s
@giraffebecky
@giraffebecky Жыл бұрын
This was so cool! hanks for making this video! I enjoyed it!
@ottob9804
@ottob9804 7 ай бұрын
This is so cool. Although I'm unsure of how to add audio as well. The drop down for input has no options
@ottob9804
@ottob9804 7 ай бұрын
im getting error 0xE000020B and am not able to usa an input audio channel
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 7 ай бұрын
I didn't include audio in my experiment unfortunately. Have you been to the Narrow-Bandwidth Television Association forums?
@ottob9804
@ottob9804 7 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle I'll try that. Thanks
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 Жыл бұрын
It produces picture from sound waves like a type of bat sonar vision, fascinating!😃
@tucker934
@tucker934 Жыл бұрын
Hmm that fist video looks very familiar, and I think there’s a pun intended there, and it’s amazing!
@jacobh1995
@jacobh1995 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I can't find the software to encode the video.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a copy drive.google.com/file/d/1cKpAB8NhAKB8MjSZLiFrufjYHCQy5Ts_/view
@awjaaa
@awjaaa Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Thank you for this!
@Nathan_7318
@Nathan_7318 3 жыл бұрын
I recorded on a tape with NBSC audio feeding into my cassette recorder then I rewound the tape and fed the video output in the computer. IT WORKS!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome and Well Done! Thanks for letting me know.
@iggytse
@iggytse Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that toy video recorder on the Beyond 2000 tv show if memory serves correct. Never saw one in real life.
@OnnieKoski
@OnnieKoski 4 ай бұрын
These are very cool. I’ve always wondered what would happen if I hooked up my H4n to a pixle2000
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 ай бұрын
Nice idea! This makes me want to experiment again.
@tourist6290
@tourist6290 4 ай бұрын
Hey, that were Picard and Riker on that tape! And, Tasha Yar i think.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 ай бұрын
Yes! very nice spotting there :) well done.
@CONCERTMANchicago
@CONCERTMANchicago Жыл бұрын
I still have my 1980 Apple II programs saved on audio cassettes. Poke Poke!
@yumiwatanabe440
@yumiwatanabe440 4 жыл бұрын
what if instead of encode raw video directly first use digital video compression and then record compressed video as analog signal ? with DVB they managed to fit about 10 channels in bandwidth of one regular analog channel. here we would probably get 10 times better quality.
@rommix0
@rommix0 3 жыл бұрын
You would need a lot of error correction, and I'm not too sure audio cassettes have enough bandwidth to do so. DAT tapes can certainly stored all of that as DATs are of course digital.
@diegolastra
@diegolastra Жыл бұрын
@@rommix0 DAT also used helical scan heads to maximize the bandwidth and speed available. In theory the bit rate from a DAT tape is about the same as a CD since the sample rate is the same, so you could encode MPEG1 video on a DAT with no problem, just like VideoCD.
@thanthanasiszamp4707
@thanthanasiszamp4707 Жыл бұрын
Isn't there a way to archive better quality in this type II tape? Like, moving the the frequency domain of the 32 kilo hertz and above to the other audio channel, frequency-multiplexing it with the low frequency sound (containing dialogues, music and audio effects). That way, a computer program can still reproduce the contents of the cassette into higher quality video while the cassette itself can be backward combatible with standard NBTV receivers.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree that using both the stereo tracks like this would greatly increase the available bandwidth. Your backwards compatibility is very interesting, thanks for mentioning it.
@thanthanasiszamp4707
@thanthanasiszamp4707 10 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle You are welcome :) If you are a computer programmer, you may try to make a program similar to NBSC scrape, using my suggested ideas. I believe it woths the try.
@tr3sCarajos
@tr3sCarajos Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this was possible, it's kinda cool, star trek looks freeky but blade runner is a vibe.
@Whyamihere-fy6dj
@Whyamihere-fy6dj 4 ай бұрын
VHS isn’t that bad it’s really cool actually
@linsqopiring6816
@linsqopiring6816 11 ай бұрын
In megabytes how much total data could a cassette tape hold?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 11 ай бұрын
It's important to consider that this is analog video I'm recording on this tape. But to answer your question you could record up to 100 - 200 kilobytes on a 60 minute tape. I tried this once in a very old video called 'Microcassette data backup using acoustic coupling' :)
@linsqopiring6816
@linsqopiring6816 11 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycle Wow that's incredibly smaller than I thought. Like a 2 minute song mp3 can be 2 mb. So if a tape can hold 60 minutes that's 30 songs. And mp3 is compressed so the tape should be holding much more than that in uncompressed data. Blows my mind. But thank you so much for the response!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 11 ай бұрын
@@linsqopiring6816 You make an interesting comparison with mp3. Because mp3 discards a huge amount of sounds that we don't normally hear, like up to 80% of the music frequencies are discarded by the mp3 format, yet they still need lots of digital bits to do that. Whereas cassette tapes record all of those music frequencies on them, at least up to 16kHz or so. So you could say they hold a lot more information than mp3 holds. But they are limited instead by analogue distortion, hiss and wow and flutter that humans don't pay much attention to when we are getting into the music from a cassette. These extreme analogue limitations are what make it really hard for cassettes to hold digital information or you will get errors trying to fit too many digital bits on them. I'm sure there is a lesson here somewhere. Such as how extremely precise hard drives have been engineered to hold all that data on magnetic spinning discs. I't's kinda miraculous really.
@linsqopiring6816
@linsqopiring6816 11 ай бұрын
@@JanusCycleOh yes I see your point now. That was a good lesson indeed 😊
@yakadoodledongywongy8718
@yakadoodledongywongy8718 Ай бұрын
Fantastic. I wonder if equivalent softwares exist on android?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Ай бұрын
I've been looking for a while but never found any.
@AB-Prince
@AB-Prince Жыл бұрын
Do you know of an encoder software that can convert from a video file, I find the screen record method to be quite inconvenient, and the fact that it doesn't need to convert it in real time should mean that the conversion process should be quicker. even if it only supports one format, as long as it's monochrome video and one audio channel, that'd be fine.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
I would love to find more software, especially an Android based encoder and decoder. The NBTV forums are really the only place I know that has anything.
@AB-Prince
@AB-Prince Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I found an encoder called video2NBTV, that can encode a color video signal onto a single audio track, the color itself doesn't translate well to cassette, but monochrome video is just about possible. I think it may be an issue with the DC offset filter on the sound card. also are you having issues with the NBSC player not passing through sound on the other channel.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
@@AB-Prince Great looking software, thank you! Can't wait to try it. I was not having any audio problems. I'm not sure what is happening with yours.
@BanazirGalpsi1968
@BanazirGalpsi1968 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would work with minidisc....
@Tumbauer
@Tumbauer 3 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to install Windows 10 on the U810? I have a P1610, and i couldn't install Windows 10 on it.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
I was only able to install the very first version of Windows 10 version 1507, build 10240. Later versions didn't want to install at all. I haven't tried using Windows Update to see if it can be updated that way. Because I only needed Windows 10 for this one project.
@Tumbauer
@Tumbauer 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I only tried 20H2, it didn't work, then i installed XP SP3, i didn't found driver for the touchscreen. I installed Windows Vista Business (which is the OS it vas shipped with), it runs great, ind i have all the drivers.
@BThings
@BThings 9 ай бұрын
It's probably sad how quickly I recognized the Star Trek TNG Season 1 cast's screen tests from such low-resolution pictures. I had suspicions that I saw Patrick Stewart, but then it cut to Denise Crosby and I knew. 🖖
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 9 ай бұрын
Excellent! these characters and stories matter so much :)
@FirstLast-bi8xi
@FirstLast-bi8xi 3 жыл бұрын
I expected some heavy bass at the end..and some smokey Proscenium footage. Great Video.
@Budgiebrain994
@Budgiebrain994 3 жыл бұрын
This was an outstanding video
@danielfaradey7629
@danielfaradey7629 4 жыл бұрын
Look into the SDI Project, guess you'll like it))
@danieldemayo6209
@danieldemayo6209 Жыл бұрын
Damn. Looks the the download link is dead.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
Do you mean this link? It can be temperamental, currently works for me though. authorityfile.co.uk/NBSC/
@danieldemayo6209
@danieldemayo6209 Жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I see, thank you sir.
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 Жыл бұрын
Funny. Next: Digital audio on analog tape. In 1982 some brands like JVC, Sharp and some other Japanese brands made some PCM prototypes with use of 2 (or 4?) digital encoded tracks. Ten years later, Philips introduced DCC, using 8 digital encoded tracks however not all of the tracks is used for digital audio. I always wonder what will happen when you play a wavefile its bytes as sound and record it on an analog tape. After this, play it back and record on PC the sound as raw bytes and after this convert it to a wav file. I wonder what is left and how it sounds, if you can still hear anything of the music.
@Takneeki
@Takneeki 3 жыл бұрын
PERMISSION: Wow! Thanks, man. May I please use a small part of this video in my project on KZbin?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I firmly support fair use in copyright. Beyond that minimum, please keep talking to me. I enjoy discussing interesting projects.
@Takneeki
@Takneeki 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I assure you it would be a "fair use" case. I will only need a small portion. Thanks a ton already. Please let me know if you meant something differently (or I didn't get you properly) in your last comment. 🙂
@Euskera___
@Euskera___ 2 жыл бұрын
what music did you used?
@Raptor50aus
@Raptor50aus 4 жыл бұрын
One of the videos looks like Star Trek Next Gen :) Might have to try this with my D6C too :)
@9852323
@9852323 2 жыл бұрын
Is the tape playing at normal speed?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes normal speed. But for best results you do need a high quality tape deck.
@SAckTheGoof
@SAckTheGoof 3 жыл бұрын
hey where i can get the software to do this?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
I used this software for both encoding and decoding. authorityfile.co.uk/NBSC/
@SAckTheGoof
@SAckTheGoof 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle k thanks
@YoMamazYT
@YoMamazYT 2 жыл бұрын
i tried to record video to Cassettes beacuse i was bored one day and had a couple blank tapes. i plugged my dvd players yelllow composite jack into audio input of a tape recorder. then i took the audio output and plugged it into the yellow composite input on a black and white tv i have and there was no video i tried turning up the sound to see if that could work but it didnt it made black blurry lines appear on screen and thats about it.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to experiment and try thing out.
@tiberiu_nicolae
@tiberiu_nicolae 4 жыл бұрын
how about recording a low bitrate digital video codec? would that give a better image?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 жыл бұрын
Tape can handle 2400 bits per second, possibly up to 9600 bits per second. At this speed video would not look much better. With lots of motion it will look much worse. Nice idea though.
@nonamehere4195
@nonamehere4195 4 жыл бұрын
AV1 can get us tantalizingly close www.draketo.de/software/ffmpeg-compression-vp9-av1.html
@yumiwatanabe440
@yumiwatanabe440 4 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle only if you do it "dumb" way as zx-spectrum and others did. think about phone line has waaaay worse quality than audio tape and still can give 33600 bps
@lutello3012
@lutello3012 3 жыл бұрын
@@yumiwatanabe440 That's what I thought, but tape has problems that phone lines don't, such as the wow/flutter problem he mentioned. I've heard that people achieved done similar speeds on tape, but it's not nearly as easy as I thought.
@detectivedreams
@detectivedreams 3 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting video, thanks for your knowledge. Could be possible to "recreate" the PXL-2000 with a normal camcorder plugged into a walkman? Or do you need an encoder first to write video on the cassette tape? Thank you!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely need an encoder/decoder. It would be possible to build a small circuit to convert the 6MHz camcorder composite video out signal to a 16kHz video signal for the Walkman. That's a bit beyond my knowledge though. And if you speed up the tape, you may be able to record better images with colour. But you might have to modify the Walkman's internal circuity as well for that to work.
@detectivedreams
@detectivedreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle That's interesting for an experiment. Could be possible to do something in the main cable to reduce and adjust the signal bandwidth? Or maybe programming an encoder/decoder into a raspberry as an interface between camcorder and walkman? Thank you
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
@@detectivedreams Yes, a Raspberry Pi would be able to convert the signal. Here is an interesting thread discussing the ability of the RPi to process video. www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=96871
@detectivedreams
@detectivedreams 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Oh, thank you so much!!
@crazyivan030983
@crazyivan030983 25 күн бұрын
Cool video :) Technoan reviewed something similar with video on vinyl (not CED) :)
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 23 күн бұрын
I remember, that was cool.
@Polyruidoso
@Polyruidoso Ай бұрын
Blade runner, smart option for a casette video
@morsine
@morsine Жыл бұрын
Why I've never seen a horror movie that utilized this camera :(
@Neovo.Geesink
@Neovo.Geesink Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, at that low resoluttion, I do regognise the movies Star Trek TNG, and Blade Runner. Indeed, by rampig the tape speed up one can gain a qualety boost. Look as how VERA recorded only Black and White TV at about 30 FPS... 5 Metres of tape per second... Wat would that be at color... 😀
@amarnadhgunakala2901
@amarnadhgunakala2901 4 жыл бұрын
So cool contents , it makes me happy
@RC-nq7mg
@RC-nq7mg Жыл бұрын
Try it on 1/4" tape at 15ips
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
I would love to do this when I get some more high end gear.
@fabricio4794
@fabricio4794 2 ай бұрын
this is a camera made by harkonnens from Dune 2 movie...who needs shigawire now...
@tankerock
@tankerock 4 жыл бұрын
quality channel. subbed
@roymcroberts8683
@roymcroberts8683 Жыл бұрын
Okay that's terrifying
@Seacat17
@Seacat17 3 жыл бұрын
The website download page is dead. Did you saved it?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
If you mean NBSC, it's working for me. authorityfile.co.uk/NBSC/Home/Downloads
@Seacat17
@Seacat17 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle Oh... It was unavailable for me. I had 404 error. Thanks.
@samwilliamson4715
@samwilliamson4715 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh.. watching the image quality playback reminded me of trying to sneak in an episode of something on my Casio tv-200 back in the day! - nice upload! Max headroom and stng definitely part of the montage
@Seth-hc2bj
@Seth-hc2bj 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Janus! Going to implement this into a live set with my music project yelll_ I'll let you know how it goes!
@Seth-hc2bj
@Seth-hc2bj 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing such a valuable resource
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds really interesting. Please do let me know how it goes. If you have any questions or need any help then please ask. Making videos has taught me how difficult, and also how rewarding it is to be creative. Despite the constant struggle, it's worth every moment. I really appreciate hearing about people's creative journey and it's an honour to think I may have helped provide a bit of inspiration along the way, thank you so much for sharing. Thanks for watching and your comments. Looking forward to hearing/seeing your work.
@Seth-hc2bj
@Seth-hc2bj 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle what a nice thing to say thanks Janus!!
@alessandrosignorini9556
@alessandrosignorini9556 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@thenewbgamer6416
@thenewbgamer6416 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be connected to an analog TV through the AV connection and get an image?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
You would need to convert the NBTV signal to composite video with hardware. www.taswegian.com/NBTV/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2192 Or use your computer as both an NBTV decoder and also a converter by using a VGA or HDMI to composite video adapter.
@thenewbgamer6416
@thenewbgamer6416 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle quick question. Can you do a video on how to setup NBSC? I'm having trouble recording, Value can not be null. What does this mean? Actually never mind I just found out why it won't work, because I did not set a save folder. Me dumb.
@thenewbgamer6416
@thenewbgamer6416 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle ok so I got an image from the digital file, but the analog is not doing anything but playback the audio, not the video. What I mean is I can hear the video signal, but it just shows grey. Actually I found out it was because the audio channel were flipped.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenewbgamer6416 OK, sounds you were able to record the output wav file onto a tape ok? Moving on to NBSCplayer, when you load that wav file directly using 'open file' it should play clearly. Now, how are you plugging the audio deck output into your computer. Line in or microphone in? Line in can be with a direct audio cable. When using mic in you have to add attenuation the signal to match levels. I did this using 4 resistors and 2 capacitors. With NBSCplayer choose 'open device' from the file menu and images should start to appear. Even music played from the tape will decode as random pixelated video. Let me know more about how all this is going, so I know which step you are at. Thanks.
@thenewbgamer6416
@thenewbgamer6416 3 жыл бұрын
@@JanusCycle I am plugging it into an analog video capture device, connecting the audio, and I'm using audacity to capture the audio, then I play it back. I got video now, but it is highly unstable, so I have to manually Sync it. And even when I do that, it slowly strafes side to side. I also have to set the brightness down a little. My computer's mic input is difficult to get working.
@costaricafamily
@costaricafamily 11 ай бұрын
VIDEO TYPE IV ! , GENIAL !
@davidgjam7600
@davidgjam7600 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a software toy to play with narrowband TV for years and years, ever since I got my ham license. I wanna say thanks for pointing me in the right direction to that forum
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad I was able to help. I'm very keen to see an NBTV encoder and decoder made for Android devices. But I understand that finding someone with the ability and time to make that software would be challenging. Let me know how you go with your NBTV experimentation if you wish. I'm also keen to make another video on the subject one day.
@tmaxgo6696
@tmaxgo6696 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to make a cassette tape output to composite? To play on a video
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын
The Fisher-Price PXL2000 can be modded for composite output. It would be possible with a Walkman but that would need lots more modding.
@gooddayhuman
@gooddayhuman Жыл бұрын
Sloot Digital Coding System had a better method using entirely digital "encoding" if you want to call it that
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын
One of the best
@oppok5657
@oppok5657 2 жыл бұрын
A poor man's vcr
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to artists to take an interesting technical footnote made in the interest of reducing cost and act like it means anything
@normandothegreat
@normandothegreat 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! 🙂👍
@gbkEmilgbk
@gbkEmilgbk 3 жыл бұрын
super cool love it omg it is possible
@graealex
@graealex 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, just a reminder that you should make another video!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really enjoy making videos. I've been working on developing a routine for producing on a more regular schedule. Stay Tuned!
@danielfaradey7629
@danielfaradey7629 4 жыл бұрын
can't download: "page not found 404"((
@oliwier000b
@oliwier000b 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i wanted to test it and it doesn't work.
@Seth-hc2bj
@Seth-hc2bj 2 жыл бұрын
So so cool
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's fake Max Headroom, but it's still super creepy...
@AIBO_HUB
@AIBO_HUB 3 ай бұрын
I cant look at a cassette anymore without thinking about teddy ruxpin lol
@Noname_2014
@Noname_2014 Жыл бұрын
Indeed the video is scary
@Raw774
@Raw774 4 жыл бұрын
HELL YES
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel Жыл бұрын
NBSC is 100 times better than Pixelvision. You know why? It's in Color!
@FezTheSpaceBiker
@FezTheSpaceBiker Жыл бұрын
Can't hide Blade Runner footage from me.
@LaurentiuFrunza-bg1it
@LaurentiuFrunza-bg1it Ай бұрын
Very good for earth disaster movie...
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
That's a scary looking toy.
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