This is such an eye-opening series, seriously underrated. As a guitarist, there's such a fixation around "tone" and gear online, but those conversations rarely address the recording and mixing techniques that transformed the tone in the room into the tone on the record.
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
Thats the hardest part about recording, drums are a pain and a joy at the same time. Guitar you just stick a mic right up to the amp and itll almost always sound good, maybe supplement it with a room mic if you’re getting adventurous. Bass you can fall back on a di. Vocals are tricky but if the singers good and you have a good compressor and a diy booth theyre not too bad. But drums are a different level
@stevendrozd4564 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to be a buzz kill. There were no live drums on that song. All programmed samples by Dave and me.
@nwallenberg Жыл бұрын
Oh no!!! Oh well, I had to try. Always loved you guys and that record, thanks for all the inspiration man🙏
@stevendrozd4564 Жыл бұрын
Can you try “When You Smile”?
@nwallenberg Жыл бұрын
Done! It’s going on the list
@katielowen11 ай бұрын
Big if true
@angeloboltini10 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's actually extra cool they managed to get the sound with acoustic drums.
@deputyrock3489 Жыл бұрын
It's 3AM. I've just finished a 14-hour session. My ears are shot. The band already left. I've tossed out all the beer bottles. I've emptied all the ashtrays. I've wrapped the cables and put all the mics away. I've shut down all the outboard gear. I've latched the loading dock door. All I want to do is go home and get 4 hours of sleep before I have to come back and do it again. Yet 30 minutes later I'm still at the studio-frantic, desperate, and on the verge of tears because I CAN'T FIND MY F***ING KEYS!!!
@chinmeysway Жыл бұрын
reberv definitely has em
@nebstaism Жыл бұрын
Check in the high hats 😂
@AndySalinger33 Жыл бұрын
😂🤭🤣
@Dep_nyc Жыл бұрын
Mixerman is that you?
@huwvwilliams Жыл бұрын
My friend Kliph used to play with them, he's telling me a load of great stories about Dave Fridmann recording techniques. A lot of it from what he said was to do mostly where the drums were set up in the room, sometimes with unconventional micing techniques but as he knew the room so well, he'd get the best results.
@predeterminedmeat5024 Жыл бұрын
Kliph Scurlock??? That's guy's a drumming god
@rileybowers203 ай бұрын
I miss kliph he was the man
@IndustryLeech Жыл бұрын
Please try to re-create the drum sounds from Elvis Costello's "Watching the Detectives". The drums in that track have always sounded incredible to my ear.
@Jacobcfuller Жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@ChristopherT1 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna check that out and listen more carefully. Thanks for the tip.
@spiritparty Жыл бұрын
would love to see that, great record
@devinwahl1274 Жыл бұрын
“Well - those drums are samples! I didn’t play kit on it. “ Stephen Drozd. Hahaha
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@adrianbarrientes Жыл бұрын
lol is this true
@devinwahl1274 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianbarrientessaid by the man himself
@joshuareid3778 Жыл бұрын
Love the low end character of this sound!
@Rompler_Rocco Жыл бұрын
The Lips are crazy, is my understanding. There does seem to be mystery around their studio techniques. I remember them saying that to have 6 mics in a kick drum would not be weird for them. Yet the huge drum sound on "Race for the Prize" is 1 mic for the whole kit. Steven Drozd is definitely one my favorites of all time. But there was a difference on Yoshimi, like the drums were being digitally manipulated after tracking, when compared to their 1993-99 stuff. Jessica did an amazing job of duplicating his feel! I've never been able to do it. This whole thing is 🔥💋💯
@booneh Жыл бұрын
Much needed Dave Fridmann discussion. Hopefully you guys tackle something from Pinkerton someday. Perhaps “Across The Sea.”
@heavymachete6235 Жыл бұрын
"tired of sex" has the best drum sound on that album in my opinion
@booneh Жыл бұрын
@@heavymachete6235 Can’t complain about that. I think it was engineered by Joe Baressi though.
@booneh Жыл бұрын
@luke5100 They produced it themselves, but employed a series of engineers trying to get the raw, live sound they wanted. The tracks that made the album were mainly engineered by Joe Barresi and Dave Fridman, who (I think) Baressi suggested to them after they played him The Flaming Lips’ Clouds Taste Metallic.
@jakerslucky24 Жыл бұрын
I love the drum sounds all over this album.
@oqsy Жыл бұрын
The trick to this sound was two sm57s, opposed 180°, suspended in lime jello along with a pocket’s worth of loose change, and input gain on preamps maxed. I assume there was THC in the jello.
@masonianbund Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t hit LIKE fast enough. I love this series. You two are doing the Lord’s work.
@sir_kafka Жыл бұрын
I mean I would love to hear you recreate the drum sound on the Manipulator Ablum (The Connection Man for example) by Ty Segall. Love the series!
@henryhayth3303 Жыл бұрын
It's about time you guys talked about The Flaming Lips.
@xHowieHoward Жыл бұрын
Yo, I have never seen that keys/hat trick before! Cool
@germangillig Жыл бұрын
great job guys! I like to now how was record the drums for "see change" of beck in 2000s. the sound of thats drums are amazing. Keep on rocking and recording. cheers from argentina
@maxgrymonprez77 Жыл бұрын
Do melody Nelson instead... sea change whole sound is based on that record.
@darwinsaye Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest factor that makes the drum sounds unique on that album is the cut and paste technique. I read Steve say somewhere that since he became the bands main arranger, playing most of the instruments in the studio himself instead of just the drums, he started using his previously recorded drum parts, chopping them and rearranging them to fit new songs. Which is why a lot of the time you hear that unique gated sound where cymbals will just abruptly cut off instead of sustaining.
@localgems Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another banger! That snare is so snappy and keys in the hi-hat...you guys are the champs.
@gustavoberocan Жыл бұрын
Flaming Lips published some videos about the production of this album for it’s 20th year anyversary. I guess the distortion might come from a tascam multitrack recorder they used. Why don’t you ask them? :)
@essmunson Жыл бұрын
they only used the tascam for demos -- recorded the final stuff with fridmann
@Shrimpy08 Жыл бұрын
@@essmunson not exactly on some songs the 4 track stuff was used like the race for the prize melody
@BULLY_FINGER Жыл бұрын
NOAM IS KILLING IT
@snails9505 Жыл бұрын
Great series, pls can you start showing your actual eq curves in the DAW.. would be interesting, thanks.
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@eameshigh2245 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video series on the KZbin platform
@grantwalkersound Жыл бұрын
Great job on this one, big Flaming Lips fan and you nailed it... I've got a sound I've always wanted broken down... The vocal sound on "National Anthem" by Radiohead.
@brettdevlin3441 Жыл бұрын
yesss weird tinny resonance on thom- national anthem sounds crazy
@WyattBrown377 Жыл бұрын
I love the mix of gear in this series. $5k in mics? I saw that coming. $100 beater eq unit for distortion? Didn't expect that!
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
The snare is about $200 dollars too, being miced with 2 $2000 mics 😂
@philipbard2333 Жыл бұрын
This sounds so good! Love this series.
@brucethomson168 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I love hearing about how to get unique sounds from the kit, Cheers.
@brutalbasspro Жыл бұрын
My daughter and I love this song! We sing it at full tilt in my car!
@reisakakibara Жыл бұрын
This is really great but damn I wish it was for race for the prize 😩
@BillyRubensElevatedEnzymes Жыл бұрын
I agree about Elvis Costellos drum sound. I've always loved it. Another good one would be that Pinkerton drum sound.
@tomiansek2873 Жыл бұрын
These are such great videos, thank you!
@ghostdog_ninja Жыл бұрын
oh yes! soooooo dope! and she nails it oh my gosh!!! great playing, great feeling,
@_OopsieDaisies Жыл бұрын
god this album is a masterpiece and the drums are one of the highest points
@heavymachete6235 Жыл бұрын
i just wanna contribute my suggestion to the next sound yall should do. "tired of sex" by WEEZER. its such a room-y dirty drum sound im so curious about it
@mmonks Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Sounds awesome and only 2 mikes, wow, great job guys! Love this series!
@michealcarney853 Жыл бұрын
Please do the feels like we only go backwards drum sound or any sound of the first two tame impala records, would love to see you revisit his drum sounds in a more in depth video like these
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
Low fi and crushed to fuck drums. Kevin actually goes through them in his own video
@WeraroaWizard2 ай бұрын
@@DanielS10291what video?
@handssmelloh9173 Жыл бұрын
The Strokes drum sound on either Hard to Explain or Reptilia would be cool. Both are different but interesting.
@felixm1716 Жыл бұрын
have forgotten my Keys in the HH several times.. and I always new that I will search for them before I put them in. Sounds really great!
@bryancahill2949 Жыл бұрын
YOOOOO ive been trying so long to get figging 2 mics on a kit sound good and this both reaffirmed i was on the right path and aired out some problems i had on it. Thank you for answering the questions i didnt know how to ask!
@aeproductions701 Жыл бұрын
Love the clean sound as well as the dirty - great job!
@cjbcarr1 Жыл бұрын
hell yeah. one of my favorites. also, steve's playing is so fucking cool......that's a majoer ingredient. are you a hypnotist? is probably my favorite drumming on that album. there's some cool stuff happening with the cymbals. there's also some interesting layering of what sounds like sampled bass drums layered in that album, which i love. another fridmann favorite of mine is sparklehorse - king of nails :) good job!
@htaylor Жыл бұрын
I’m probably demonstrating my ignorance here but I’ve been listening to a lot of Glenn Branca recently and the drums on ‘The spectacular commodity’ sound especially good. It could be to do with the guitars being so treble-ly but the toms and kick are seemingly just resonating along in a really nice way. It could be that the entire drum set has been eq’d to minimise high end and it’s just a standard acoustic drum sound. Either way that’s what I’d like to be done next!
@squee-z6442 Жыл бұрын
I want a king gizzard engineering video so badly!
@matthewleger5605 Жыл бұрын
so sick. love these! thanks
@notEggsLamar Жыл бұрын
IMO this is the best sounding drum tone in this whole series, I know its not everybodies cup of tea but holy crap do they snap crackle and pop
@5dteatree Жыл бұрын
great breakdown! would love to see the drum deconstruction on This Heat's 24 track loop
@HUSHMONEYBAND Жыл бұрын
9:37 “best of every world” 😂
@jamesd.6979 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this series, and I usually think these guys pretty much nail it. I've learned a lot from this series that I have 100% stolen and used on my own projects. But am I the only one that thinks they completely missed the boat on this one? I got so excited when I saw the video title, Yoshimi is easily one of my top 15 favorite LPs ever (right there w/ The Soft Bulletin).. I'm just not even remotely hearing the Yoshimi sound on this. Am I seriously the only one who just isn't hearing it??
@danielwetzel777710 ай бұрын
Y'all are awesome. I love these videos even if I don't know the song and in a few cases dislike the song
@chinmeysway Жыл бұрын
that kick sounds quite great
@JakobAmr Жыл бұрын
Awesome like always. ❤
@GM-cd5rt Жыл бұрын
me explota el corazon!!!!
@jamiegustkey2573 Жыл бұрын
Steven DR(long O)ZD… Which is close enough I spose… 🤷🏻♂️😁 He’s a beat wizard… Thank you for this * 👏🏻
@freakingethan Жыл бұрын
When are y’all gonna do “Funky Drummer”?
@terrorbirds9835 Жыл бұрын
Did you need to account for any phase issues between your parallel signals? Sounds great 👍
@MantasticHams Жыл бұрын
its almost always a consideration with drums unless you track each drum totally isolated. if the tracks are effected differently it might not be too noticable, and sometimes it can even do something nice, but it will always have an effect on the transients, either exaggerating or muffling them. But usually muffling, in my limited experience. And you will get certain frequencies resonating or cancelled out, as usual with phase issues, but that can often be more a matter of taste if you are adding it subtly.
@cookingwithashfaqahmad Жыл бұрын
lovey muic my dear stay connect👍
@rupellovonmatterhorn4273 Жыл бұрын
Nice sound, but this clean bass drum is killer! What's that beater? Is fiberskin also on the beater side?
@danielburns4483 Жыл бұрын
suuuper helpful vid. huge, clear and nasty sound with two mics. will be using!
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
Would have been great to hear the difference with the baffles soft side or hard side facing the drumset!
@Merlincat007 Жыл бұрын
In general, I'd love to hear more direct back-to-back sound comparisons in this series. Talking in between examples makes differences hard to discern.
@WyattBrown377 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! The room has such a big impact, especially on these minimal mic setups. Don't expect to get these same results in your dry with disastrous low end bedroom or your flutter echo chamber cement garage.
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
You need a large, oddly shaped room for good bass response. I have a very small but treated room and the bass isnt a problem as such, but that’s because there isnt much and the room is harsh sounding and trebly
@tdrum21 Жыл бұрын
Dope sounds fo sho
@ReeseChown Жыл бұрын
Very important album to me.
@katielowen Жыл бұрын
Lightning Bolt - Blow to the Head next 🤩💪
@matthewcloutier493 Жыл бұрын
Please do “Shelter Song” by the band Temples! PLEEASE?!!!
@kowloonbroadcast Жыл бұрын
really great work, guys. i loved everything about your approach here - from the mindset to a dog-shit kind of equipment that’s been used. it’s almost literally carving art from a pile of shit loool, which I enjoy doing myself. it’s often amazing how cohesive and stylish the result may sound in the end. the final sound also reminded me of what Black Keys do with their drum sound production, something out of “Brothers” LP period with a slight difference that BK’s sound of that album often had more elongated kick with massive low-mid freq boost. at that time they also used the same kind of obscure gear to add a similar kind of distorted lo-fi vibe to the whole record. -- as for suggestion for future break downs: it would be cool to see you figuring out some of *Spoon’s* drum productions. In this case my vote would go to *“The Hardest Cut”* , they did a great job on kit there.
@za4310 Жыл бұрын
Its nice to see room mics. The sound of music made with only near field mics, DI, midi, sounds like butt. I have plenty of mics and lately ive been using only ONE ribbon mic for everything. I place it where i want someone to be sitting if they were listening to me play.
@churricardo1457 Жыл бұрын
Now that I hear the drum pattern on its own it reminds me a lot of where is my mind lol
@PrimalNote Жыл бұрын
Could you try something from Glassjaw - Worship and Tribute, or Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium?
@music-ti7fu Жыл бұрын
Can you do the White Stripes’ Elephant drum sound?????
@TheKirby366 Жыл бұрын
Just heard Steve Albini talking about the keys in the hi hat trick yesterday
@morioh6505 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO JOY DIVISION DISORDER INTERZONE WHATEVER
@BillyRubensElevatedEnzymes Жыл бұрын
Dave Fridmann and Steven Drozd forever!!
@betojmd Жыл бұрын
dave fridmann is an underrated genius
@isfahani Жыл бұрын
I used to put my knit hat in my hi hat to dumb it down on gigs where I was stuck in the corner and setting up on concrete floors...
@axelb.o.7963 Жыл бұрын
Any chance you'd recreate the techniques behind drum sounds à la Beastie Boys or JSBX ? Thanks !!!
@andywildrick Жыл бұрын
How did yall know to go get that Ashley graphic EQ for this?
@OB-LA Жыл бұрын
I kind of like the dirty track, would be cool on the right song
@theparttimepunk Жыл бұрын
Could you try to recreate the drum sound on open water by king gizzard?
@roflol65 Жыл бұрын
They actually show a lot of it in a video they made themselves called Peeling the Microtonal Banana
@theparttimepunk Жыл бұрын
@@roflol65 I now and have watched it many times but it would be cool to hear some more expert opinions and explanations of the techniques and mixing.
@roflol65 Жыл бұрын
@@theparttimepunk tape saturation and a lot of compression is key here i think
@huldraslaat2252 ай бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE could you do the an explanation of the drum sound from System of a Down’s Toxicity
@levekonline Жыл бұрын
would love to see kendrick lamar - wesley’s theory or herbie hancock - actual proof bill withers - lovely day
@parallellmusic1552 Жыл бұрын
U gos to do Pink + White by Frank Ocean. Kind of my ideal drum sound. (or Lost)
@thebeerheart8 ай бұрын
Love Dave Fridmann
@orlandofdz Жыл бұрын
Try The Strokes - Hard To Explain Interesting Sound!
@Floppa-oz1kp Жыл бұрын
Lmao I thought that was Yung Gravy in the thumbnail 😂😂
@NTD2827 Жыл бұрын
Do the drum sound for "dead cowboy" by Lightning Bolt
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
Whats that muffling thing on the snare?
@kirklandwhatley Жыл бұрын
If anyone really likes the snare in this video, I have a live listing on Reverb of this exact model! Cheapest one available too
@rocksully Жыл бұрын
Id love to find out how this drum sound was originally created
@DanielS10291 Жыл бұрын
My guess, gated bottom snare mic???
@AL_KING777 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect he’s hitting the drums twice as hard, inevitably going to change some dynamics. Old maple, oversized drums will also change some dynamic
@1BigBucks1 Жыл бұрын
🔑🔥
@cobb_thedrummer Жыл бұрын
She’s a black belt in karate
@ltandrepants Жыл бұрын
the e.q.-ed kick has a slight delay
@adamhenaghan4417 Жыл бұрын
anything from Grizzly Bear's Veckatimest
@nunopedrosantos8790 Жыл бұрын
You picked the wrong song!! Please do Race for the Prize instead! One of the most bombastic drum sounds ever recorded! Ultimate proof that Fridmann and Drozd are Gods!!
@nazfrde Жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of these now, and I find that quite a lot of the time, your recreations don't really sound all that much like the originals. This one REALLY does not at all sound like the original.
@ltandrepants Жыл бұрын
i see she left her keys clipped to her waist! i did that a on a few recordings and left it in on some!
@joermnyc Жыл бұрын
How about some Modest Mouse in memory of Jeremiah Green? RIP
@UncleBillyBob732 Жыл бұрын
My girl can thump.
@rogerl6220 Жыл бұрын
Cool but wouldn’t it be more helpful to the average Reverb customer to show how to approximate the sound using more shall we say affordable equipment? 5 grand for the mics alone
@martenthielges1179 Жыл бұрын
oh how I wished all the drummer that came to the studio weren't cymbal bashers