Recycle With 2 SHIELDS? Making Brellas Good Again

[@Unphased7]

I can’t wait for 8 shields to be launched at me by a team full of recycle

[@guillermocervisalmeron2209]

The recicle council has punish you with eeltail alley spawncamp

[@andrewle4989]

Why do I genuinely want to encounter that

[@SylvieYawn700]

New zones cheese just dropped

[@ProChara]

maybe itl break a single tent shield then

[@CountBLECK1]

That would be so funny

[@DVG7093]

'Making brellas good again' *sigh* *checks comments*

[@Platinum_XYZ]

huh?

[@takeshihada9689]

@@Platinum_XYZ People got mad last time he done this before iirc.

[@DamiaAnderson]

Is he?...... Nvm

[@yoursnatchedweave641]

@@DamiaAndersonno but i definitely am 🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@z_alexolotl]

the idea of two recycled brellas is really cool, its kind of like other games where some abilities have multiple uses and recharge on their own timers. its a type of cooldown management that doesnt really exist in as much in splatoon and adds something new and unique to a weapon that really needs it

[@gorshe74]

None...of the umbrellas...have rain...? The...umbrellas...oookay developers...

[@sharkhaos_probably]

Had the idea for a new main weapon, an "Inverse Brella." It's an inside-out brella that has bad shot spread, but it can "eat" bombs in front of it to restore shield HP. Would probably end up broken but I just wanted to share my stupid little idea. Have a nice day.

[@sorenmathieson]

People would just not through bombs at it then? They would just shoot it

[@dark_moth7]

I think it needs something else if it can only eat bombs but the idea is interesting to say the least. Maybe it could get a wide shot spread like Wellstring for good paint since the shield acts like a funnel going outward rather than a precise nozzle at the end of the shield.

[@-bemyvalentine-]

Being greeted with Dudley's theme is definitely a great way to start a video.

[@ashy3604]

Right i thought the same thing

[@DVG7093]

0:53 *chara jumpscare*

[@turtlefalcon5546]

2:16 I have no idea why I’m laughing so hard at this lol

[@FortyTwoBlades]

As a diehard Vunder main I VERY much agree that we need the shield bump combo. I'd be fine with them not giving us a max damage increase as long as we got a minimum damage increase for better consistency in damage output with grazing shots.

[@sylphroid]

I have been asking for the bump to be buffed since launch T-T

[@sushsushsushaushfrrrrro]

logi really did super well on the editing for this video, the camera angles and the smoothness is really nice

[@neptuneash4617]

can’t wait for the splatoon devs to completely gloss over this video and make absolutely zero changes Edit: it’s a joke. you can go now.

[@BrownCharlie1]

Cant wait for the Splatoon devs to completely watch this video and later make a statement saying "we changed every weapon the way we think our players would want" and make absolutely no changes to Brellas

[@Roxleton]

well their Japanese so I don’t see how they could understand this

[@Rootof-2]

Newsflash- the devs don’t care about charas opinion. Like they do care abt the playerbase as a whole, especially in Japan, and will do their best to try to make changes that players want in general, but nobody in their right mind will make decisions about changing a game with over 13 million players based off of one persons opinion, even if, like chara, their opinion is reasonable, because Nintendo are trying to cater to the maximum number of players. Also, extremely high chance nobody from Nintendo will even see this video, let alone take action on it. Sorry for the ramble, and just to be clear I think charas ideas for rebalancing the class are good ideas, from both casual and competitive standpoints, I just think Nintendo ‘glossing over the video’ is to be expected and we shouldn’t expect them to ever make changes based on one persons opinion.

[@tombadil64]

They don't watch KZbin videos.

[@BrownCharlie1]

@@Rootof-2 Wow! What a revolutionary concept!

[@squidkid419]

I love the idea of ink storm on a brella, like it’s ironic but also good at the same time. I think my dream undercover kit would be burst storm, but cooler would be fun too

[@zokemon69]

Hear me out: Splat brella doesn’t need it’s old damage back, it needs its damage multipliers turned down so the sheild - it’s whole identity - becomes a real strength. Outside of shooters, dualies, and splatlings, every other class either bypasses the sheild or breaks it EXTREMELY easily. There is no reason the shield should be breaking in 2 or 3 hits, it might as well not even be there. Splatanas have crazy multipliers, out range , out speed, out damage it, and the charged slash is extremely unreliable to block thanks to hit boxes. Blasters, rollers, and sloshers should be able to get around the sheild, but why can they brute force break the shield in 2-3 hits? It’s not fair.

[@_Just_Another_Guy]

All I want from Brellas are 2 things: - more base ink efficiency without needing more than 1 main of it or 4 subs of it - reduced shot spread so more of the bullets can hit the target

[@Typi]

Something I had in mind for Bambrella: Have its base shot be 85 damage normally, but when your shield goes up, you are still able to shoot, but max damage is reduced to 45 for a single shot, which is fired as soon as your shield is brought up. When the shield is launched damage is returned to 85. The 45 shot is only fired once, but you still have some protection from your shield. Basically it gives the Bamboozler Pewpew to Bambrella.

[@placeholder2937]

The brella class is maybe the coolest, most interesting of all the weapon classes in my opinion, I really hope they get buffed enough to see plenty of use, and we get to see even more fun and unique brella kits and main weapons in the future. I thought of a cool idea for a new brella. What about one that also has multiple shields, similar to Chara’s proposed version of recycled, but the shields it launches out quickly stop moving and remain on the battlefield stationary for a little while, sort of like a mini splashwall dispenser. They might have to make it bad at fighting in order to lean into the gimmick while keeping it balanced, but I think an idea like that, well executed, could be really fun and tactically interesting

[@TheOriginalFoxManDan]

Hearing the words "Tent is perfect" from Chara as I'm ≈100k points away form getting 5 stars on it is literally one of the best things I've heard on this channel :3

[@Zoe95591]

Tenta Brella is amazing in the right hands, but perfect? Oh no... I can think of a few reasonable improvements that it would in fact, make it perfect Mr FoxManDan.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

This class is awesome, and I find Undercover to be a ton of fun. I just wish that it had more Specials than “Suicide Ride” and “IRL Psychic Damage.” I also wish Recycled had a better name. Recycla? Paperella? Parashot? Bambrella sounds good.

[@SunburstSenshi]

I’m just now realizing, is there even a single brella with ink storm? Why do the umbrellas not have rain as a special, it would be so perfect 😭

[@jarotaro]

This was so well editted, Logi is def a keeper 🔥🔥🔥

[@Nicolas-Gonzalez-ReefRider]

I love the changes!!! This video series is one of my favorite so please keep making them!! I think shooters should be next. Keep up the great work prochara team!!!

[@placeholder2937]

Splat brella used to be my favorite weapon/class. But it feels so much worse to play in 3 I don’t really touch it anymore. *sniff* you’re still number one in my heart

[@MeloniestNeon]

I feel like the only real thing holding brellas back shield-wise is the terrible netcode, Recycle aside, and the main thing that's bad about them right now is their damage. It feels terrible trying to fight anything and missing a single shot, because 90% of the time it means you just die before you can get your shield up or fire another, especially on Tent and Recycled right now. I'd love to see UCB become 15-45 and Vbrella be more consistent with its damage (maybe not 90, but at least 84-85 max damage so it can combo with just a single pellet), and as for Tent and Bambrella, I think Tent could use a small 1-shot range increase (or just better white ink frames, I'd take that too) and Bambrella could just use better paint so it doesn't need to launch its shield to move.

[@aperson7011]

333x this. Brellas could get god-tier kits and overwhelming buffs, but if the actual gimmick of the weapon doesn't work because of a little lag, then it's all for naught. Imagine if blaster indirects didn't hit cause your opponent didn't see it on their screen. What if chargers didn't one-shot because it was only 99% charged for the enemy? If brella canopies functioned as they should, then they'd be a solid weapon class. That, and maybe reduce the damage Splatanas and Stringers do to the canopy. It's SO much.

[@guillermocervisalmeron2209]

Me playing: Big swing, rapid blaster pro, snipers, brellas, splatana wiper, sblast and stringers... Yeah its sucks

[@guillermocervisalmeron2209]

​@@aperson7011also the shield can kill you because of a bomb

[@WaveAqualei]

Absolutely

[@kala3607]

2 SHEILDS?! 😱😱🤯

[@wolfyspl]

Yes 2 sheilds

[@doctor_5802]

What in the pfp

[@greensnicksalt]

@@doctor_5802peak pfp tbh

[@doctor_5802]

@@greensnicksalt yeah

[@kala3607]

I just really like super mario

[@Bonbonika]

I do like the possible comedy of breaking a brella's shield only for them to reduce, reuse, recycle another shield.

[@BlueVacktor]

been loving your intros lately chara! totally agree about these changes, hopefully they do SOMETHING to brellas before S4!

[@ruccsacc]

I LOVE THE EDITING IN THIS VIDEO SO MUCH THE STREET FIGHTER MUSIC THE KINGDOM HEARTS 2 REFERENCE 🔥🔥🔥

[@minimoose7772]

I think a brella that charges up a canopy depending on how long you hold it would kick a lot of trash. The brella would begin to spin the canopy, and then when you let go it launches with speed and damage based on how much ink it consumed. Essentially a secondary projectile mode. But all of it's moot when the netcode lets you die through shield on top of never reverting the S2 nerfs.

[@masonmclain3780]

Sidenote Chara I’ve loved the intros of your recent videos! They feel so cinematic and so well done!

[@Cuttlefishyt]

We were here before it was edited from sheild

[@G00dra292]

Everybody in the comments talking about stuff like double shield for recycled brella and allat: My brain at 2:15:

[@darrinfix199]

a crazy add-on, what if storm's healing did the same for the shields? how much it matters and would actually do anything is questionable but could be fun and interesting. also wonder on thoughts of the others being able to shoot while the canopy is open but you pay a bonus ink charge(an extra half of or full normal amount) for every shot.

[@Camphreneas]

That double shield concept for recycle is NUTS, but in a pretty cool, and unique way! If there were to be a Splatoon 4, this would be a GREAT concept to be put into use for the brella class, even taking into consideration that the next game will be even more hectic than Splatoon 3, and you have to stay on your toes the whole time!

[@FuzzyMH]

There is many things I wish to say about Chara saying “Tenta Brella is perfect as is”, but I think I’ll leave that for the video Thire is planning on making.

[@supershadow125]

Hearing the Dudley theme had me bopping right away.

[@_nero630]

love the kh reference haha, great video!

[@sendhelp3012]

tenta should have either more pellet or more damage per pellet,or Just make the shot tighter

[@The_Artist_Official]

Now here’s a crazy idea: undercover brella, but the shield has tenta brella durability

[@spaceace9103]

How would you beat it?

[@The_Artist_Official]

@@spaceace9103 sneak attack, maybe? Dualies and brushes would be good at that

[@sonicrunn3r895]

This should've been the Grizzco Brella

[@VillainyScum]

no

[@jocabulous]

tenta brella but you can launch 3 shields

[@ashy3604]

Chara doing good with that third strike music

[@tiredhouseplant]

i honestly think that the recycled brella rework idea could be genuinely super interesting, and allow for a playstyle i dont think we've seen in the splatoon series before, that being a parry playstyle. the combo of two shields and no stun when getting the brella broken would allow it to be a more aggressive, high risk brella that can give high reward if you can have the game knowledge to know when to flare the shield and shoot and when to dodge/manage brella cooldown. a part of me wants to give it some unique mechanic that completely reworks it; i.e. have it so the shield flares IMMEDIATELY, and putting it back down/launching it puts it through a bit more lag than usual, but if it is destroyed you can immediately act again, meaning that if you can guess correctly and parry shots you get rewarded with some INSANE burst damage, but if the shield is baited out, then you could be in danger. i think it would be a super cool high-risk-high-reward weapon, but thats more like an insane idea i had rather than just a normal rework lol (also please keep in mind im not a competitive player, so i wouldnt know how to balance this or even if the concept would be balanced. i just think its neat.)

[@NorthWestWind]

One of my biggest complaints about Recycled Brella is that it barely even feels like a Brella due to the shield being basically non-existent in fights. Having 2 shields not only gives it extra HP, but they can be used as extra distraction as well. I'd argue this is still balanced, as the extra shield will increase the risk of damage from bombs for teammates unaware of it. I still really want a Folding Brella that works like Squeezer or Flinza.

[@SirPhoton]

I laughed five times when Chara said, "Should Brella get its old damage back? The answer is yes!"

[@bx1943]

in an ink storm brellas should get extra buffs and be immune to enemy ink storms

[@EverythingInMyBrain]

Dynamo roller should be able to delete bombs on contact. That way it wouldn’t be completely helpless if someone throws a bomb at its feet mid swing, and instead can delete the bomb even if it means wasting the swing to target the bomb.

[@strp-ow9ci]

Brother... I saw this and thought is was the mid-season patch and was about to cry of hapiness😭

[@addyraid]

peak editing for this channel very silly funny

[@loadingname4947]

I still think the most important thing for brellas is making sure the shield actually works. It still feels awful to play when everything can still kill you while just completely ignoring the shield. Chargers, blasters, and bombs killing you because it lagged and the shield didn't protect you. Splatanas and sloshers completely disregarding the shield. Stringers and splatanas at range obliterating the shield. It's just not balanced when the central mechanic nearly always fails.

[@gabrielshields198]

Feel like the Bella class just need to remove the damage multiplier on the shield to even the play field .

[@OpticalDrop]

Burst cooler on undercover? I can only DREAM

[@Yorgral]

i think undercover should, when the shield is down, do 60 damage and when it is up do 40. you could be risky and try and get two 60 damage attacks without the shield for more reliable damage or you can try and get the perfect 100 damage with the 60 + 40 consecutive shots. that way the weapon would incentivize fighting without spamming the shield whilst give it a little bit of actual slaying power.

[@FortyTwoBlades]

As a Vunder main I wouldn't be opposed to that. It would definitely give more reason to use shield flaring on it instead of just always having the shield up, namely for your first shot out of the ink. The first shot does always fire before the canopy is up so if that was just always the 60 damage shot it'd mean you could ambush folks a little easier but if you were caught while in the middle of inking you'd have to make the call of dropping your shield for the improved damage and possibly get taken down in the process or go for the slower TTK with your shield still active.

[@earthyemeraldy]

Considering Recycle is my favorite salmon run brella, I think it being able to launch 2 shields would be extremely strong and fun since the shield deals 100 damage and it's already good at clearing crowds. Plus, the main gun still has amazing damage for boss killing, so it would be an even better multitasker.

[@FrankD1396]

Super appreciate the Kingdom Hearts reference 🤣

[@mera450]

I wish the "when shield launched a weight class is dropped" made it into this video but still amazing changes

[@fleromor]

Given the reveal in the trailer and how it plays in salmon run i definitely think the launching the shield is the point of recycled brella, meant to create openings to close the gap to get a kill. You could rebalance it into a brawler with a fast moving shield that can be used more as cover for movement to flank rather than strictly to wall out opponents. You could also decrease the time between shots to help with this to make it a threat if you ever let it get close.

[@Clepto_and_Co]

I feel like most of the brella's issues come from poor ink efficiency so that could be a simple fix. But here's some kits I want to see for the brellas: Splat brella - Burst Bomb/Inkstorm Burst Bomb is op, sure, but its decrease in damage would probably be irrelevant with that sub, and Inkstorm for obvious reasons Undercover - Dart/Zipcaster Dart is underrated and would help its inability to deal with longer ranged enemies and Zipcaster with a shield could allow for some crazy shenanigans while also helping the undercover close some gaps Tenta brella - Toxic mist/Cooler While not great, toxic mist would not only double down on the tent's area denial, it's also a fun concept of debuffing enemies in addition to cooler. And it's not like tent needs a sub weapon when it has that shield Recycled - Fizzy bomb/Kraken Recycled brella has a bad kit but with the new kit I'm really coming around to it, and Fizzy bomb's versatility works well with recycled's flexibility, and kraken would be a good fit, and the shield could buy enough time to cover kraken's start up. At this point I doubt we're getting 3rd kits but I hope we see these at some point

[@SomeGalNamedEve]

Logi's editing is so good

[@ashtongiertz8728]

I was thinking for the recycled brella to lean more heavily into the DPS niche. Such as making the launched brella be faster, and allowing for oneshota at close range in exchange for a wider spread.

[@DanCaliburV]

Can’t we also give tent its old damage back to make it more reliable at range again?

[@PenguinXD4]

i'd also add 11% Bigger shield to Undercover

[@SolarSpinner]

I've thought that recycled having an uncapped turning speed while flaring the shield would also be pretty cool, it'd be an overall small change like undercover jumping, but with how much it uses shield launch in general and as a movement tool I think it'd be cool if it could flare the shield then flick directions quickly to choose exactly what direction to launch it

[@lazarus3100]

I was so excited for the recycled brella on its announcement and was let down so hard. I was absolutely thinking it should've gotten rain for its second kit and was let down again. These changes would actually make me intrigued again.

[@terretro3623]

Cycle is very interesting in that I was never that sure on how to buff it. I thought of cycling the shield faster (2.5s to 1.5s) and lightweight but I was never too sure. Two shields is a really cool idea that I sadly don’t think it’s possible with my current abilities (or lack there of) with modding :(. Would be awesome in execution tho. Great video, and thank you for the kit ideas!

[@jarvis5552]

This is EXACTLY what I want from Brellas! I miss S2's vanilla Brella so much, and these would not only be viable, but more fun to play! I hope the devs do this, honestly.

[@dynamorolleruser]

0:18 What is chara cooking up? We don’t need brella miniguns, now.

[@LumeanTV]

*BURST BOMB UNDERCOVER I LIVE* [crying because this is what i want so badly... damn torp..]

[@FortyTwoBlades]

Torp uses SO MUCH ink and has such bad white frames that it always means full commitment any time you throw it or you're gonna' get caught without any ink left. While five-starring Sunder I found myself getting #1 Ink Consumer a lot and it was really a downer.

[@LumeanTV]

@@FortyTwoBlades That's exactly why I don't use it. A lot of my friends, one in particular that does comp stuff in their off-time, are always surprised when I tell them I've found way more success in setting up traps and stuff with just one ink mine, as opposed to one torp. Because there's no ink left to throw down another torp, _normally._ Even with ink saver sub chunks. Being able to have burst bomb, something that would help with immediate damage to follow up with, is incredibly important imo for this weapon. I've five-starred the Vunder, but have strayed away from Sunder for that reason. It just feels so awful to use.

[@FortyTwoBlades]

@@LumeanTV yeah I five-starred both and going back to Vunder was a breath of fresh air. It really is a MUCH more aggressive kit if you aren't careless with your 'sliders and learn how to use mines offensively. I often get top splatter on Vunder and am able to hunt so actively with it that I like to run Opening Gambit on my main gear set. I think people who were claiming that Sunder had a kit that would let it "fight better" never learned to use their mines properly or how to look for advantageous opportunities for 'slider where they wouldn't just die in endlag. On Vunder I really like running two subs of Ink Saver (Sub) so I can drop two mines immediately with a full tank and still have some shots left over.

[@LumeanTV]

@@FortyTwoBlades it really is. I'm so disappointed they didn't give back splashdown to Vunder. I'm okay with reef though. It's not... Terrible. I would just rather have an immediate jump rather than a startup kind of special and it was something I ran well in splatoon two, I think. Sunder is definitely the passive kit, fitting into a more passive and "hanging back" kind of play style. You'd think I'd probably get the hang of it since I play mid/backlines a good aamount, but I just can't wrap my head around this thing. Even after watching what to could to try and get better with it. My friend did share that they didn't really know how to use ink mines, but it's not super hard. Using them in choke points or to try and predict where enemies might drop for a flank is super important. Even if you don't splat them, you'll know where they're going at least. I do wish we had three though, ngl. Like how beakons have a three beacon limit.

[@FortyTwoBlades]

@@LumeanTV 110% agreed. I loved Splashdown on Vunder in 2, but do genuinely love Reefslider for the mobility applications it has. It's especially nice for zipping across mid when there's a charger pinning down movement because you can move from cover to cover fast enough to reasonably get to them and harass them from behind even if they see you coming. One of the things I love about Undercover is a lot of the strats are a lot like in sport fencing where it's about managing your footwork, timing, and distance, and doing things like deliberately setting or breaking rhythms can make or break the outcome of an engagement. The Reefslider ends up being like a "fleche" in fencing where you're able to pull a sudden maneuver at a pace that was unexpected, but is similarly high-commitment. I could see a burst/splashdown combo working well. I'd personally like to see autobomb + cooler and/or line marker + ink storm. Autobomb would have been the better match than torp for Undercover I think, since it's not as ink-hungry and still provides the benefits of scouting and having lethal potential.

[@Djiimon]

I personally would like to see Undercover Brella get to keep their full run speed when strafing and the ability to constantly paint its feet while the Brella is open to make hard to lock down, like a spy movie hero.

[@FortyTwoBlades]

The jumping buff helps with that somewhat! I often jump-strafe through enemy ink and it was a much bigger buff for the weapon than a lot of folks reckoned it would be. It makes it much easier to move and get to safety while under fire now.

[@garden9949]

Brella original damage? Yes absolutely thank you. Undercover definitely needs a better kit I agree. Tenta is pretty much fine as is, just maybe a few tweaks like you said. Just one question about recycle, how would it show both brellas visually?

[@Prismark]

I was hoping that the brella added to S3 was canopy focused in terms of being able to produce up to 3 canopies with less HP and quick detaching. It would have been an interesting weapon to cover turf, yourself or team-mates. Recycle is similarly canopy based playstyle if done right, but a multi-canopy based brella was a promising addition to the brellas. And honestly speaking I would fully support your ideas for Recycle.

[@samwich8848]

I know new concepts for brellas aren’t in the reworking realm, but a brella that can deflect shots and maybe bombs back at opponents could be a cool idea or could possibly carry over to the recycle brella, giving it a unique fighting style.

[@starshade7078]

I heard Dudley's theme and started jamming out, Logi doesn't miss when it comes to music selection 🤌🏾

[@noahthecrazy1632]

I think the limitation of firing and opening the shield with only one button makes it hard to work with, but at the same time very interesting

[@cousinparty7266]

Once thing you didn’t point out with the 85 damage and range buff is that now it’s a lot more like a bamboo brella

[@BlueComet229]

Good idea. The one problem I would have with Splatoon's balance is the lack of stronger changes for weaker weapons. It a particular shame with the new brella because although it does more damage in practice this is due to the tighter spread which makes it in turn harder to paint and hit shots. A range buff is an interesting idea and separates it out from standard Brella more. I do find the weapon to be slightly less interesting than the other new weapons. If it was good at launching shields quickly then this would be more fun and still be unique. The most obvious point is that Splat Brella and Undercover Brella need a damage buff. They should be better at fights than they are now and this is fair in a game that is far faster with more powerful specials than before.

[@tiqosc1809]

I actually think the coolest way to fix it is to make the brella launch out in insane speed, like a giant projectile, it would be funny

[@koalababy101]

I think if undercover gets something like a gimmick where it will slowly gain hp overtime but the ink efficiency gets worse

[@justanoreo2.0]

I've always thought that undercover could at least be fun with zipcaster, it helps it's mobility allowing it to be more aggressive and it can protect the landing with the canopy

[@FortyTwoBlades]

I don't think mobility has really ever been an issue for it. It cuts paths nicely enough that I'm often frontlining in Rainmaker to clear the way for the carrier.

[@josephnewman6148]

Should get a bit of the undercover treatment ( one shield launches the next stays )

[@mythlessrwf]

Ok hot take: Recycled Brella’s flimsy shield in exchange for the fast recharge time can believe-it-of-not survive a lot more than a regular Brella. Think of its shield not as a conventional shot-blocking tool, but an anti-one-shot tool. You get basically an extra life if you shield it just right, allowing you to tank a charger shot, trizooka shot, any variety of bombs, etc, you get the picture. Sure normal Brella can do that too, but Recycled’s fast recharge makes this type of survival much more reliable. Chargers in particular *really* struggle trying to kill this thing because their whole class’s identity is one-shotting. And hell-with the sub bombs in particular, you can “defuse” a bomb for practically free since you get your shield back so fast. On top of that you get a free mobility tool. This might’ve been a factor as to why Recycled Brella is the way it is, and you know what, I now believe this weapon doesn’t need a lot of reworks. And I say this as someone who‘s on their way to 5*ing the MkII Recycled

[@P3aRthepear]

Chara is goated

[@Z4RZT0M4S]

I was watching SF3 related content and then i click in this video and the intro is also SF3😂😂😂 i love it❤

[@RoseFielden]

Yes Give Brela Damage back. (Side Note: Dudley theme had me grooving)

[@Cool-Vest]

I think if I was going to rework Recycled, I would give it a 3% range buff and a kit of Booyah Bomb + Burst Bomb. It generally is decent at holding ground, but doesn't exert enough offensive pressure to take space. A quick, cheap sub to combo off of and a way to create new space while giving yourself armor is exactly what the weapon needs. Ideally I would give it Angle Shooter + Inkjet, but those are already taken by other brellas. This kit would play close to its team, relying on its teammates to combo it frequently before going off on an aggressive flying rampage.

[@hahani17]

One idea I had for Recycled would be to make the shield actually deal considerable damage (like maybe 50 or something) Think about it: It launches, moves and also regenerates extremely quickly What good are all these attributes if you can't use them for defense? They WOULD however be extremely useful for offense With actual damage, opponents would have to either move around or focus on and shoot down the shield, which would give you an opportunity to catch them off-guard And really, with just 200 HP on a pretty big target, I don't think many weapons would have a hard time getting rid of the launched shield if they didn't wanna eat 50 damage

[@FortyTwoBlades]

I had honestly thought that was the angle they were going to go with it when it was first unveiled. Making the launched canopy an actual weapon you had to avoid.

[@lemonquacklol]

I think it would be cool for a new Brella to have it be one of those water balloon fillers. The shield is 8 balloons that, when shot, explode and deal damage and paint. If the shield is big then that means it’ll create a risk factor when fighting it once the player launches it

[@agentblackbird9435]

You mentioning how Armor in 2 lowered Blaster and Charger useage and allowed Brella to eat my damage made my realize something else: I think part of the reason Stamp sucks is because without armor it really sucks at stomaching hits. This isn’t the only problem with Stamp (there are a lot), but if Zip can have armor I don’t see why Stamp couldn’t

[@yorkish]

hardcore brella main till i die but i refuse to even touch undercover

[@yeahmansoul]

Awsome, i never thought about a double shield gimmick

[@Yorgral]

recycled doesn’t have a stun. it was a glitch with the weapon when it was released and it was fixed in 7.2

[@mouw7645]

My idea for brella is to bring its old dmg back, make it block tri strikes and booyah bombs considering booyah just got buffed and tri strikes are overtuned, and make run speed up more effective on it. With also a couple nerfs being its less ink efficient (maybe like 2-4% more ink per shot) and make the sorella kit 200p. Also fix the bug that happens when you flare the brella sheild and you still take dmg even if the sheild is up

[@P0TAT0_828]

PLEASE DO ONE OF THESE FOR STRINGERS

[@LimeAnura]

If vBrella gets even a BIT of its old damage back (81->85) Ill cry tears of joy

[@foxingame6644]

I was wondering about maybe giving some brellas a counter function which still damages the shield but it pushes back anyone too close to it by a significate margin allowing for you to maybe be able to push a decav back and run away but I feel like that would be too overpowered for certain situations and matchups

[@meecal]

Damn this recycled brella would go crazy in salmon run

[@TorayNix]

If 2 shields is not realistic, tbh, just buff its HP and give it the Undercover trait (getting your shield back every time you get a kill/assist) Now hot take of mine, but I’d buff its HP not to 150, but to 240 (reference to the "24" in its full name)

[@Blyeth-go4wr]

THE KINGDOM HEARTS BRUH IM DYING

[@pikamatt6683]

KINGDOM HEARTS MEME KINGDOM HEARTS MEME

[@allenparker2113]

Hey chara I saw fyrenthuist’s video I just want to say you’re also forgiven heck you didn’t even have to apologize you didn’t know what that word ment and since then you’ve realized it was wrong and have learned from your mistakes and never it said again. Again you’re forgiven. You’re my favorite splatuber keep up the fresh work.

[@lunarkomet]

What are you on about?

[@allenparker2113]

⁠​⁠@@lunarkometwatch fyrenthusiasts video to understand

[@allenparker2113]

@@lunarkometit seams my comments aren’t being posted so just watch the video called this prochara situation is so sad

[@dani8361]

i think rebrella should just get a bigger health boost when deployed

[@GamerGioYT]

Unpopular opinion: OG Undercover brella is goat😂

[@notimportant1659]

Torpedo makes Sorrella better though

[@FortyTwoBlades]

@@notimportant1659 absolutely false. If you know how to use the Vunder kit it's actually MUCH more aggressive than the Sunder kit. It just requires frequent aggressive use of your mines and being mindful of your reefslider end positions so you don't leave yourself exposed during endlag.

[@hudberwafdog]

@@FortyTwoBlades for a weapon that kills in 3 slow shots, aggression doesn’t mean much. Torpedo is already a better sub than mine in general. Obviously better on a tier list doesn’t mean it’s good for every weapon ,but with underBella, t’s combo synergy is better, its location uses are still intact, and it’s still good for assist. Which in undercover’s case that location and assist power are especially good because it’s going to be playing more of an assist role in general.

[@TheLaXandro]

@@FortyTwoBlades mines do it no favours. It's not a weapon that can open opponents up by itself, it is by design defensive, so it needs something to engage with. If opponents can just ignore it until a big gun or a spontaneous tag-team can clean it up, UC achieves nothing. And Reefslider is just about the least synergetic special there can be with it, overextending with a weapon that is undisputed worst at handling multiple opponents at once.

[@FortyTwoBlades]

@@TheLaXandro Mines are an important part of its kit and are essential for reducing its TTK. Running forward to draw aggro and dropping a mine or two that they get kited into means you drop to a 2-shot or 1-shot. Reefslider simply requires you to look for opportunities that WON'T leave you exposed and not make bad plays with it. If you're constantly getting killed in the end lag, you're using it poorly. Don't just think about what the explosion is going to do, but what the POSITION is going to do. If you can't land in a safe spot, don't pop it. Undercover takes fights best from angles off the objective line and reefslider is a good mobility aid for getting you there safely. Your job isn't to be a brawler or assassin so much as a saboteur, and you should be trying to get the enemy to waste as many resources (including specials, ink, health, time, positioning, or attention) as possible. It can absolutely take on multiple opponents at once under certain circumstances, most especially staggered 2v1s where a second player comes in to help the first you engaged with. The splat/assist shield healing dynamic gives you the boost needed to handle those kinds of engagements, and even in some simultaneous 2v1s you're able to drop a mine to hit both and then take them both out before they can drag you down. The reduction in TTK mines give are a tremendous boon to the weapon and I honestly don't like being without them despite the lack of a poking sub. All this said and while I don't consider myself a remarkable player I do run Opening Gambit on my main Vunder gear set and often get top splatter up in S+ and X rank matches. It's a fine weapon and it's just that most people don't get along with its best playstyle.

[@Pixelite_]

There should be a high mobility brella without a shield that does very high damage and has a potential one shot up close, but its overall range is fairly lackluster Brellas are basically Splatoon’s shotguns and I think it would be fun to have one that really leans into it!

[@Mason..Thane.]

Undercover has truthfully been my favorite weapon, even during launch day with pre-buff splashdown and ink mine and before it got the shield regen. I have a really weird opinion where I'd want Undercover to be more of a skirmisher than a flat out support. Personally, the only two changes I'd make for the main weapon is for it to do 45 damage a shot, but increase its fire rate by 2 frames, so it can finally kill just under a second. I wouldn't touch the shield as the undercover is better at combat already. As for a third kit, either burst bomb/splat bomb and Ink Storm, that way it can tank super well with the healing effect of Ink Storm, and promotes the flaring of its shield.