Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Testing Elite Naval

[@dvdmethod2]

Glad you made the point of how impossible it is to keep an elite aircraft carrier.

[@alexanderstoyanov7464]

Having an elite dreadnought is still one of the best feelings in the game :))

[@stevengreen9536]

So long as their is not an elite Aegis cruiser shooting down you missiles.Or elite destroyers,submarines,& dolphins sinking your elite dreadnoughts.Or an elite squid tearing them apart. :P

[@harunkamaruddin1856]

elite kiroz

[@Izzyeet]

Until 6 Robot Tanks approaching your Elite Dreadnought

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

@@Izzyeet Christ, I hate those drones...! xD

[@danny_cookie]

One SEAL: allow me to introduce myself

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

tg: Testing Aircraft Carrier, Dreadnought and Boomer Submarine on destroying series of building... Aircraft Carrier: That building is destroyed...! Swarm, move out to bombards another targets...! Boomer Submarine: That building is destroyed...! Enters another coordinate for the next target...! Dreadnought spotter: Target has been destroyed, Comrade Kapitan...! Dreadnought Captain: No, ready the missiles, same coordinate...! Dreadnought spotter: But, Comrade Kapitan... Dreadnought Captain: Fire again...! 07:47 tg: You see, Comrade... "When it came to siege, Dreadnought has no equal..."

[@BVasquezp]

Cant be sure capitalism is completely erradicated without a 150% destruction rate.

[@m-w-y7325]

Missile operator:Comrade Captain target is destroyed. Dreadnought Captain: FIRE! Missile operator: but Captain there is no more target... Dreadnought Captain: FIRE! Missile operator: Acknowledged, Firing Salvo. Dreadnought Captain: YES!

[@Desolator84]

With a bit of micro and good timing, you can destroy two separate targets with each missile.

[@wangguanallen]

actually it is not true. The missiles are fired before the target being damaged, though the missiles are just on the deck of dreadnought.

[@HeWhoHungers]

It's great that the Dreadnought fires an extra volley at every target after it's already destroyed and is still twice as fast as the aircraft carrier.

[@Hamentsios10]

When Red Alert 2 becomes science, is when i get a smile on my face.

[@TrizzlyYT]

Keep up the vids my man

[@Hamentsios10]

Me or tg?

[@TrizzlyYT]

@@Hamentsios10 u

[@Hamentsios10]

@@TrizzlyYT Ahh I assume you know me?

[@TrizzlyYT]

@@Hamentsios10 from mw2, yes

[@MrPathorn]

Aircraft Carrier is best on engaging moving units and has no minimum range. Dreadnought has the highest damage output. Boomer is the most versatile.

[@mayshiratoshi6390]

I think boomer is a bit op cuz it so versatile (even itself is submarine). Plus with some reason squid did't parasite to lock down it....

[@SorakaOTP462]

Boomer is the most versatile is an overstatement. Boomer is the only ship a yuri can build. It's just a combination of all the game ships put together and divided by 2.

[@koss6149]

@@SorakaOTP462 yea yuri doesnt have an animal like a squid or dolphin so it could maybe have a kraken and neither an air-support ship so maybe something like the gattle gun thingy but two of em and put on a ship?

[@NICSU667]

@@koss6149 for yuri a parasite that can take over the mind of a dolphin and squid would be great but also very squishy compared to those two

[@endtimeguitarist]

This video at first sorta grabbed my attention but as it went on it was just so detailed, informative, entertaining, and well done that I just wanted to keep watching.

[@bormisha]

In the Soviet Mission 5 ("Escape velocity"), there is a menace of Yuri's miners entering your base and mining your ore fields. I used to destroy the miners with the starting Dreadnoughts, which easily get promoted this way.

[@iamshadowbanned699]

I love you added your thoughts to the experiment.

[@animeman6563]

so... precision,damage = Aircraft carrier damage,damage = Dreadnought damage,ambush = Boomer #BeonewithYURI

[@TheFurious74]

Elite Dreadnought = DAMAGE!!! DAMAGE!!! DAMAGE!!!

[@lachezarvalentinov8751]

BE ONE WITH YURI!

[@Waltuh_White420]

Elite dreadnought is basically a mini nuke silo

[@wei06zhen18]

@@Waltuh_White420 portable rapid reload nuke silo

[@krypanzer3620]

Ok Boomer

[@GundamFireStorm]

Poor Red Alert 2 doesnt even work on my computer anymore but I still get excited when I see thses videos

[@liev535]

disabling multithreading works for me, sometimes strange bugs happen but still very playable.

[@HydratedBeans]

Download cncnet or a prepatched game from the Pirate Bay. I play on windows 10 with a 1440p monitor.

[@skinwalker69420]

Watch a Zoom3000 video, he has it linked on his channel and set compatibility to Windows XP service pack 3, 16 bit color and run as administrator.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@HydratedBeans do NOT get it from pirate Bay.

[@cdcdrr]

Aircraft Carrier: Pride of the Allied navy. Cruiser: Hahahaha! Heh, that's a good one! Oh, that wasn't a joke?

[@LBL_Edzer]

No real units were harmed in the making of this video.

[@m-w-y7325]

You also forgot to show that Elite Dreadnought missiles if destroyed in Air can badly damage any Structures and Aircrafts nearby, their missiles are literal flying bomb trucks.

[@tg.Sacred]

I tried but failed to get a good recording on that.

[@m-w-y7325]

@@tg.Sacred Yeah, its hard to make it happen but when it does, boy is it satisfying! : D

[@tg.Sacred]

@@m-w-y7325 I tried to bombard a kirov down. -.-

[@m-w-y7325]

@@tg.Sacred hahaha, try group of Rocketeers/Siege Choppers and make them target the Missiles as they can destroy them mid air when the missile is near them, it will explode and kill them.

[@hesha3000]

For a base well defended with antiair...best thing would be aircraft carrier...bombers will crash into the base

[@hector_campus]

Nice video man.Another point carriers have advantages againts dread-boomer is fallen hornet always do damage when crashed, few are no problem, but when you have a hornet rain, even best anti-air well defendended bases have a problem, carriers are good to air defenses. Another problem of boomer-dread is the missile distance, missiles are more hard to break when are almost landing,so it is better atack always in fire maximum range.

[@60beat23]

Thanks for still playing this legendary game!

[@ME262MKI]

I knew it Dreadnought has heavier damage than those 3, those who tought it was Kirov had no idea or never played this game

[@JerryLiuXiMan]

ME262MKI same

[@joshuagabrielcatindig7607]

Or maybe played too much Allies lol.

[@unowcehn]

Kirov has advantage of mobility, apocalypse is landed, and dreadnought is marine or water side advantage. If the fog of war is there you can't hit anything. Same goes to apocalypse. If there is obstacles in front, apocalypse need to blast through it first before reaching it target. But in this question, damage was ask then sure is dreadnought

[@hesha3000]

What is wrong with you?

[@kedarunzi9139]

@@hesha3000 what's wrong with who

[@Whatever-kk4cm]

I really love how they changed the carrier in RA3. Made it feel so much stronger.

[@stylesrj]

2:50 Not quite helpless on their own. You can force-fire where the torpedoes are coming from and easily sink the submarine. It's only when you have detection units around the Carrier is like "Nope, can't hit that all of a sudden" Also, notice how when the Dreadnaught fires, if you cancel the attack after one missile is deployed, the ship model shows it with two on the deck... it's only when both are deployed that it goes to the empty ship model.

[@jeffreypolliscoyth0ugh975]

Notif squad checking in. Haven't finished video yet but lots of interesting tidbits learned halfway into the video. Edit: Finished the video and the gods have spoken. Elite Dreadnought deals the highest damage while Kirov is the least but little difference with Apocalypse. Dread vs. Apoc has a large damage gap.

[@AceNeyros]

Okay, let's "sea": - Alies, again, are weak - Dreadnought deserves its name - Boomer is a Jack-of-all-Trade(?) which means "YURI OP! PLZ NERF!". - I've won the pool(voted for Dreadnought) Great job, pal. Your business is appreciated. P. S.: Was I the only one that heard "Missle ready" instead of "Vessel ready"? P. P. S.: I'm trash at English.

[@OverseerMoti]

Nope, me too. Always heard it as "missile ready" before I knew how to say "vessel".

[@nohope7080]

alies 1 aircraft carrier = weak, but 10-20-30 aircraft carrier is another story.

[@JerryLiuXiMan]

no hope I agree. When there are more units air craft carriers destroys a base much faster since their planes can go on to attack another structure without wasting rounds.

[@Covolsky]

@@nohope7080 that's 20k 40k and 60k funds... It better darn be worth it...

[@nohope7080]

You can atk moving enemy, soviet cant. change the target fastly, While the plane is out of the ship, you can moving but the plane is still continue atk

[@SoldierOfFate]

Aircraft Carriers were easily my favourite naval siege unit since they could overwhelm any kind of AA defenses with enough Hornets. It was basically impossible to break through AA lines with Dreadnoughts and Boomers....but the real fun begins when you get them to elite. The elite Dreadnought can destroy ANY structure in the game with just two missiles short of superweapons.

[@redeagle-fi4rr]

Not if you're attacking a soviet base. Flaks with their AoE damage would chew through those Hornet squadrons.

[@АртёмКорольков-м7ь]

I love slaves screams on the background, so relaxing...

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

TIL Desolators are a surprisingly good defence against naval units.

[@phillipmele8533]

The Aircraft Carrier seems to trade AOE and sustain for extreme burst alpha. Interesting.

[@SantomPh]

Allied units all have precision, only the Prism Tank has splash damage, and that is random targeting. The Soviets all have AOE apart from the Conscript, Typhoon and Boris.

[@MrCh0o]

Also looks like it might be capable of getting through thicker anti-air to deal at least some damage to a target. At a cost of a large downtime of rebuilding the Hornets, of course

[@LunaCelyn]

@@SantomPh Even Weather Machine and Nuke Silo are.

[@deantan4080]

Just wanted to come by and say. "OK BOOMER"

[@bonanlin4972]

I've been searching for this comment

[@BVasquezp]

Even being giant sea vessels the carriers fulfill the role of assassins... damn this game is so well made

[@Iamthedudeman00]

Finally! Thanks so much man!

[@raymundhuiso7297]

Who needs a nuke silo When you have a ton of dreadnought destroying buildings and units

[@waltermarine3248]

@@Buffalo_Soldier fuck cannons

[@LNgKhoi]

I'm a sucker for Aircraft Carrier so it's okay.

[@dragonstormx]

The Boomer has another advantage over the carrier and dreadnought by being lower on the tech tree. You can get it early enough to rush the enemy base before they even have any naval structures, and all they can do is try to move their base further inland.

[@deko3423]

A large ship in the fleet

[@allanwong3447]

As you pointed out that aircraft carriers have the attack and move advantage against the dreadnoughts, I think there something you forgot to mention in the last video. When using destroyers against submarines, you don’t simply let them wait for the anti-sub plane strike again. There’s a great interval between each strike from the plane, the destroyer could just run away instead of taking damage. I think the destroyers are a little faster than the subs, maybe I’m wrong here but what I’m sure of is that subs cannot attack while moving, thus kiting the subs is possible.

[@SantomPh]

Destroyers should work in threes at least to immediately take down subs. Subs cannot attack while moving but are faster than Destroyers, plus when not attacking they are invisible.

[@Kiwijr2579]

Looks like the people who voted for the Kirovs at the end didn't watch the Kirov testing video :) Yeah, it's always annoying how the Allies Aircraft Carrier's promotion goes on the aircrafts instead of the carrier itself :/

[@zdlax]

You can make dreads fire each missile at a separate target if you time it just right. Very satisfying to take out 2 important buildings in one salvo from an elite dread.

[@furtivetef805]

I assume the Aircraft Carrier is the only one who can easily defend itself from Navy Seal/Tanya, Yuri Prime and Robot Tank.

[@Ivanical]

One funny thing I saw was when I had floating discs and rocketeers get shot down (indirectly by dreadnoughts) when they fired at the missiles of an elite dreadnought. that splash damage isn't just for ground units.

[@Night4ce]

I could a swore you could obtain a promoted aircraft carrier. Just have it sit next to a crate when you have another unit pick it up. If it's a promotion crate, it'll apply to the carrier since it was in crate range. Only thing notable is the faster jet release.

[@samh5550]

Good day tg, and thank you very much for these videos :D if you would accept, I would like to request video from you showing how units get promoted by killing or crashing different enemy units, and how many enemy units is required to get the promotion, like prism tanks, apocalypse and the others tank units. You may want to test the navy and troops units too :D. thanks in advance :D

[@tg.Sacred]

sam shot I will yes but it’s very simple!

[@samh5550]

@@tg.Sacred yes, but i mean it sometimes differ from one units to another. For example when a conscript kill apocalypse, he got elite not veteran, and so the others units may differ.

[@JimmyTTThanh]

Could you please make the comparison between MENTAL OMEGA units? This new mod is much more balance than the old Yuri revenge...

[@tg.Sacred]

Once I finish with RA2 I may give it a try.

[@bormisha]

Balance in Mental Omega? To me this mod seems like a mess of crazy ideas, making a multitude of units obsolete.

[@waltermarine3248]

"let us send them..... a message." -boidmachine

[@petarpetrov777]

EPIC VIDEO MUSIC MONTAGE Great WORK

[@markhalden3922]

What about an elite Dreadnought vs equal value of elite V3's on time to destroy a base? Still reckon the Dreadnought would win.

[@Zelinkokitsune]

A thing with the Carrier that might not be obvious with your testing that it's able to more easily penetrate bases with air defenses. Consider the following. A Patriot Battery or Flak Gun fires at a fixed rate and can often shoot down one or both of the missiles launched by a single Boomer or Dreadnought. The Carrier's third fighter has the ability to more often get past air defenses as it requires a third shot to hit them. Sure the plane will probably be shot down but there's a better chance that that plane will get through and with the Carrier's high damage per plane it means that one plane that gets through deal damage to a target while the Boomer and Dreadnought are giving the defenders a fireworks show!

[@DreadGrimReaper]

"Group of carriers." Not just one."

[@Zelinkokitsune]

Yea Carriers scale insanely in groups since the swarm just becomes unstoppable.

[@DreadGrimReaper]

@@Zelinkokitsune "Agree."

[@tg.Sacred]

The Aircraft Carrier is mostly likely to deal damage to it's target in its first attack. Once the planes are down, it becomes really bad since you either have to wait or keep trying to attack while the hornets are available one by one.

[@waltermarine3248]

@@tg.Sacred well yes they mostly get fucked by flak cannons and gatlings it is best to gather carriers in numbers and send them all at once but make sure to have destroyers and dolphins protecting them aswell AEGIS cruisers too

[@chosen281991]

9:42 you should insert sad meme song here

[@jeanmichel8919]

Ah the good old boomer aka op submarine 😀👌

[@codenamePori]

Can you test construction? Like when you have no power how many construction yard is enough to have the same building speed when power is on? And test with barracks , war factory , ship yard ect.

[@OverseerMoti]

If I recall correctly there are differences in speed between low power with little gap and no power at all.

[@tg.Sacred]

codenamePori yes it’s in my to do list!

[@havoc3742]

that answers easy, since production speed is halfed when you have low power, the answer should simply be how many Production things to double build speed, or 150% buildspeed if they're using a flat 50% reduction

[@Yellow13Firestorm]

another thing about elite dreadnaughts and boomers is that if their missiles are shot down, they still explode in the air. i can't tell you how many Yuri bases i saw where floating disks or soviet bases had their discs and kirovs blasted out of the skies because my dreadnaught's missiels blew up in the air.

[@shironee_2384]

Aircraft Carrier hornets can also hit buildings when shot down, sometimes it help a lot to finish it targets Note that in RA 3 aircraft carrier get proper promotion system, so they can get promotion when destroy an enemy

[@izakireemsi2783]

Red Alert 2 will never die.

[@LNgKhoi]

Are Carrier's aircraft harder to shoot down or Dreadnought's missiles?

[@tg.Sacred]

Aircraft Carrier are harder since there are three Hornets and have more health.

[@LNgKhoi]

That explain why those Hornet spams were terrifying in the right hand.

[@SantomPh]

a Squid will disable the carrier and the Hornets will crash into the sea when they return

[@disd00d42]

nice video! what gamespeed do you use when making these comparison videos?

[@tg.Sacred]

DIS D00D thanks ! Game speed is 5

[@SkyWKing]

The carrier is so underpowered it seems the QA never bothered playtesting it (if there's such thing as QA during that era at all). It has zero redeeming feature.

[@aouerfelli]

The elite Kirov airship seems to deal the least damage per second even though it got the most votes.

[@Rebellion90s]

I have a question. What deals higher burst damage between 1 Dread and 3 V3s? Lets make this clear, 'burst' referred to one of the parameter found in "rules.ini" file, it dictate how many shot a unit fire in a single attack (i.e. Elite Apoc: Burst=4 thus it fire 4 shots). In case of Carrier, Dread, V3, it called 'spawn' which dictate how many Hornet, Dread Missile or V3 Rocket can be launched in a single attack). You might ask "why 3 V3s against 1 Dread?". I'll give you a straight forward answer so you wouldn't have to test it yourself. Dread Missile deal more damage than V3 Rocket (both are basic).

[@bbglas007]

I really do wish the aircraft carrier was buffed a little bit... Maybe faster aircraft? or even if they are shot down, new ones keep promotions... after all, the aircraft are actually drones, the pilots would be remote operators and their skill should be transferable to the next drone

[@cyberneticdex69]

desolators hmmm now that ... i didn't knew

[@PinkSpiderFan10]

Back in the days when there were no outros. Time flew so fast. It’s more fun to watch when there is outros though because it’s so entertaining. Always lots of support for tgsacred all the way 😇

[@TheChrisD]

tbf the vote was a bit ambiguous, since it just said "highest damage". Didn't specify whether it was single salvo, or DPS; nor the type of target being attacked, and what sort of resistance said shots would encounter (if any).

[@tg.Sacred]

All I meant was highest damage per shot but didn't expect to confuse so many.

[@xwyl]

Elite dread missile deals damage to air units when explodes mid air

[@TheFurious74]

It brings damage to any units around!!!

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

The veteran's did too...

[@grostavious]

4:26 the dying slaves lmao

[@brendanhinderliter6627]

I forgot how ridiculously OP Boomers were. Available once you have a Naval Pen and Radar, attacks both naval units and sieges enemy bases, easy to promote, more powerful when promoted... If you ever play a Yuri player in a water filled map, you are finished unless you do a early rush or mass your own ships.

[@hemandy94]

The desolator is a nice touch

[@OleksandrSlepnov]

Should've showcased how missiles can be shot down by AA and still deal damage

[@emzzz8180]

It was shown when he attacked enemy nuke powerplant.. First missile was destroyed but still damaged it

[@OleksandrSlepnov]

@@emzzz8180 He hasn't emphasized on it unlike how he did with every other aspect

[@Nguyen2-t9p]

Can missile kill rocketeer?

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

@@Nguyen2-t9p yep, I seen that, at least veteran's missiles did... With the elite Dreadnought's missiles...? That's definitely...

[@0xVENx0]

1 thing i know is that DN like to make sure the target is demolished

[@NeilRoy]

Alas, allies get screwed yet again. I still like aircraft carriers and you don't normally send one carrier, send a few and that's a lot of damage in one strike.

[@SleepyGunNamedG11]

Dreadnought: P i r a t e W i n s !

[@enduringwave87]

Bro, what software did you use to make that Animation for your channel at 13:02

[@monolith9613]

Dreadnaught launchs nukes when its promoted elite

[@lamdelmundo8492]

Yuri submarine: "Let the missiles fly!" Me: "ok, boomer." 😅🤪

[@enzoluisasuncion3621]

No matter what happens Dreadnought is my favorite naval unit in this game especially when it's Elite :D

[@ulughanergin305]

Looks like the best efficient way to destroy an opponent is to build 20 boomers and just fuck up their base.

[@diobrando6245]

2:29 Dreadnought sinking Captain: fire the last missiles

[@Sammysnows]

the only downside of dreadnought long range attack with AA unit especially gattling tank with tank bunker and non elite nor veteran aegis missile can;t even hit the target useless on map with a very few water.

[@SystemShock1111]

yep if you attack aa-defended base, dreadnought is almost useless

[@darykeng]

@@SystemShock1111 1 dreadnought.

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Than again all 3 of these are useless if the enemy base has too much AA.

[@SystemShock1111]

@@darykeng it may be an interesting test how many dreadnouts can be stopped by 1 elite aegis cruiser. IMHO at least 5

[@DreadGrimReaper]

@@SystemShock1111 "All 3 navy units."

[@ilyachaplygin8573]

It would be interesting to compare units such as Apocalypse, Prism tank, V3, Boomer or Dreadnought with the Soviet nuclear superweapon in terms of one shot damage to structures. P. S. Btw, is it possible somehow to attack naval units with terror drone?

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Ohh cool I knew elite Dreadnought is the best. :P Ohh and....."cornet"? What is a "cornet"? Not the little planes for sure. (description)

[@deko3423]

Hornets*

[@tg.Sacred]

Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly :D

[@OverseerMoti]

RA2 equivalent of Hornets apparently are VTOLs.

[@geofer.o.13.888]

Do crates that spawn on water have promotion on them? If yes, then it is possible for the Aircraft Carrier itself to get promoted. However, if they don't have promotion or it is the Hornets that get promoted, then, it is just the same as the video. Poor Aircraft Carrier.

[@tg.Sacred]

Promotion Crates spawn on water and it only promotes the Aircraft Carrier which pretty much is useless.

[@khazix4833]

So that's the reason why in Red Alert 3, is the Aircraft Carrier that got promoted instead of the hornets

[@mr.goodvibes4126]

*OMG that Soviet made dreadnought*

[@wwn4573]

have you tried to attack dreadnought's missile with giant squid before it launched?

[@ami2evil]

The squid eats it...

[@TopShortsAndReels]

Plz tell me where can i download it? I try many links but all were spam

[@tg.Sacred]

Islamic Tube follow the link of the forums I have in the description !

[@kedarunzi9139]

Many slaves died at around 5:50

[@nonidtuhnow4924]

Correct me but kirov has the ability to instakill any building it is already over. So formally it has the greatest per hit damage )))

[@kirra9152]

Are you sure about aircraft carrier and dreadnough have the same firing range?. I've tested mine and it seems that carrier have slight more firing range.

[@tg.Sacred]

I tested myself and I didn't notice any difference. Can't be 100% sure but I believe they do have the same range.

[@ShadowHunter120]

Carrier seems better for hit and run harassment perhaps than full on siege.

[@excrist1274]

dreadnought elite kill construction base just **one** missile both dreadnought and Aircraft carriers are give most giving promotions exps very much otherwise boomer not LOL

[@SantomPh]

the Boomer is supposed to be deployed in swarms plus it can attack other naval units as well as a Typhoon can.

[@petarpetrov777]

HEY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE ALITE CARIER from crates (I MEAN ELITE SHIP NOT horrnets)

[@reylionelsun4408]

So in summary; In terms of versatility: aircraft carrier In terms of stealth: bombers In terms of damage: dreadnought

[@benmhark]

Can tou test grand cannon damage on everything?

[@tg.Sacred]

Hmm I'll see what I can do.

[@hexaquras9374]

I used to play this game without micro, now everything becomes simpler

[@mastermirror3888]

So the damages dealt by normal dreadnought and veteran dreadnought are simply the same?

[@T.F.BlackStar]

Lauch missiles behind their target... Seems legit.

[@ghostsonic97]

1 missile from dreadnought is stronger than a nuke 😂😂😂

[@KILAH4716]

Which is stronger against submerged units, 3 Ospreys, or 3 Hornets?

[@tg.Sacred]

3 Ospreys are slightly stronger

[@millitron3666]

In the test with boomers shooting slave miners, why did two of the miners survive one extra volley?

[@i-masonicss6721]

👍👍 U really love this game

[@Kohchu]

The obvious takeaway from this is as follows: Aircraft Carrier - Pros: Can target enemy units very easily, the hornets don't miss much, can reach veteran very easily, can deal the most single target damage in one attack of the bunch. Cons: Extremely long intervals between attacks make their attacks slow, very vulnerable to subs, every time the hornets die; you basically revert back to non-veteran status. Soviet Dreadnought - Pros: No equal for base demolition, Veteran status is awe-inspiring and devastating. Cons: Extremely vulnerable to enemy attacks, has no answer for close range, Can miss if the target is mobile. Yuri Boomer Submarines - Pros: Basically the cross of 2 Typhoon Subs and a Dreadnought, the most tanky of the Naval Siege units, Doubles as a general attack/siege unit. Cons: Can't do both things at once, not very mobile, has no anti-air support out at sea, can miss if the target is mobile

[@stevengreen9536]

The dreadnought is stronger.But i kinda like the Boomer Sub better.It was like an improved version of the missile sub from Red Alert.Plus the Boomer is better at engaging hostile naval units.If dreadnoughts run into a pack of allied destroyers all they can do is try to keep their distance or run away if they do not have an escort of submarines or squids. (or both)

[@mhafiz8803]

Told ya dreads da best

[@kindasimpson9704]

Carrier is not really for land attack, in land attack AAs are everywhere, it takes too long to respawn a new aircraft. Instead, it's perfect for land support and navy dominance(as in real life), with destroyer presence it can take out subs too. Dreadnought is pure land attack like V3, that's why it's so powerful. Boomer can't be too good in land attack, it got two jobs to do, can't make it too OP.

[@syrupee09]

Notice Meeeeee Dreadnought-kuun >////////

[@wuorson5111]

If your enemy(s) are yuri or Soviet, and you happens to be an allied faction, an aegis will make dreadnoughts and boomers useless