Red Bull's SECRET Engine Upgrades to Beat Mercedes | Formula 1 Engineering

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@Driver61
@Driver61 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think it will be enough for Red Bull to hold off Mercedes? Who wins the title?? Thanks to Raycon for sponsoring the channel! Get 15% off here! - buyraycon.com/Driver61
@RS265cup
@RS265cup 3 жыл бұрын
Hamilton is my man but I think that RB will do better as a team
@jeffp2935
@jeffp2935 3 жыл бұрын
Merc was impressive laat race. They have clearly more speed. I think Verstappen’s lead isn’t big enough. If Hamilton won amd Verstappen got second he would have got a margin by now which I think he needs
@Diskord1982
@Diskord1982 3 жыл бұрын
Compact? Those cars may be lightweight but they are as long and as wide as a full size Ford F150 if I remember correctly.
@MagnumLoadedTractor
@MagnumLoadedTractor 3 жыл бұрын
Man your comments from fans are being raided by dating sites bots
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 3 жыл бұрын
Scott - as an 'engineering focused channel' why oh why did you clip the shots of the Honda ICE SO quickly? 2:12
@CDSAfghan
@CDSAfghan 3 жыл бұрын
No matter where you stand on which era was the best, you've gotta admit this season is pretty exciting.
@ZIA9421
@ZIA9421 3 жыл бұрын
Yup this season is one of the best
@ConnorH2111
@ConnorH2111 3 жыл бұрын
No its not, its dramatic but its had no actual racing.
@ZIA9421
@ZIA9421 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConnorH2111 it still is fun Yes there has been a bit too much of drama some times But this season is good
@Driver61
@Driver61 3 жыл бұрын
Perez and Hamilton last week?
@ConnorH2111
@ConnorH2111 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZIA9421 you only saying its good because Mercedes have been struggling, 2017-2019 were far more interesting we actually had some good battles. Max doesnt know how to race so we havnt seen any racing this season.
@Number-ju1nl
@Number-ju1nl 3 жыл бұрын
That Adrian newey is simply a genius! Take something you can't see and manipulated to your advantage is amazing!
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 3 жыл бұрын
Adrian will always build decent cars,he always had,but sometimes they have a limited operating window like the current red bulls,thats why they are the most difficult to drive,but they have a good relationship with honda,and build the car to the engine preference also
@ck867
@ck867 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Red Bull are as close as they are given Mercedes still have a better power unit is proof of Newey’s genius (and Max’s talent).
@afoxwithahat7846
@afoxwithahat7846 3 жыл бұрын
Adrian has quite some experience designing championship winning cars, I wonder what he will come up with in 2022
@mudtennis9842
@mudtennis9842 3 жыл бұрын
same as james allison
@letsseetofindout2560
@letsseetofindout2560 3 жыл бұрын
@@mudtennis9842 ope not even close
@travisgoode7242
@travisgoode7242 3 жыл бұрын
Great season this year, loving it, people need to stop hating so much and enjoy this battle, we’ve seen nothing like it since 2016 with Rosberg vs Hamilton.
@travisgoode7242
@travisgoode7242 3 жыл бұрын
@James I don’t feel those were as tense as 2016 tbh.
@leonardoluc6362
@leonardoluc6362 3 жыл бұрын
Sir lulu can’t handle the pressure, so many mistakes this year alone. Max is not the same as Nico and we know how that ended. Since Silverstone i lost respect for Scamilton.
@dan_t3702
@dan_t3702 2 жыл бұрын
@JJ remember singapore 2017, I turned off the tv after lap 1 but it's racing
@Filmesdecarros
@Filmesdecarros Жыл бұрын
Your opinion stay the same at this year?
@gamm8939
@gamm8939 3 жыл бұрын
I know you guys need to make money, but to anybody reading this: Do not buy Raycons! The products are cheap, have awful quality and really bad sound
@luisborges3645
@luisborges3645 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@gamm8939
@gamm8939 3 жыл бұрын
@@luisborges3645 Look I up, watch one of many videos about them, that aren’t sponsored I might add.
@alejandroquinones3636
@alejandroquinones3636 3 жыл бұрын
They’re terrible really. It’s just bass and that’s it.
@jakejakedowntwo6613
@jakejakedowntwo6613 3 жыл бұрын
Sound curve isn’t balanced like other earphones, literally just all bass
@tomo9224
@tomo9224 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're terrible. Dankpods eviscerated them
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Honda and Red Bull got together, they've fitted each other like a glove. Now HRC are going to continue I'd expect this partnership to last a long time. Here's hoping. Also, this may be your best work yet, 👍👍
@Pete292323
@Pete292323 3 жыл бұрын
Honda is going to leave F1 next year, I am so sorry.
@brandonb.288
@brandonb.288 3 жыл бұрын
Honda is leaving and only supporting the engine for a short time. In 2023 Red Bull is taking over the Honda engines (Red Bull gets the I.P. of the engines in the 'divorce' lol). "Red Bull Powertrains" will take over manufacturing and servicing starting in 2023. So, from 2023 on, we will see if Red Bull can actually compete with Mercedes since they will start doing their own engines as well.
@GB-vn1tf
@GB-vn1tf 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonb.288 you're missing that HRC, the guys that do bike, are getting involved with Red Bull to develop the engines, so Honda aren't really dropping out. That is factual, its been announced. HRC might not be Honda fully but ask the MotoGP guys about that.
@ArtJorgeCom
@ArtJorgeCom 3 жыл бұрын
@@GB-vn1tf you are right. it will be still a Honda!
@crxdelsolsir
@crxdelsolsir 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pete292323 Only leaving financially and only partially. The personnel and engine construction is still Honda.
@steyer-crmg
@steyer-crmg 3 жыл бұрын
Great shot at 10:03 the wheel looks like it is moving in and out on the axle, but it’s the tyre wall shifting as the corner force changes.
@lesblase3667
@lesblase3667 3 жыл бұрын
Either way, either one would make for an exciting win. Lewis for his 8th. Historic. Max for his 1st against arguably the Greatest to ever do it. Mate.. what a season. May the best man win. Fan of both gentlemen.
@FarelfarrasH
@FarelfarrasH 3 жыл бұрын
This is some 2005 shit
@Bearical
@Bearical 3 жыл бұрын
​@@FarelfarrasH so the new generation wins?
@ptbot3294
@ptbot3294 3 жыл бұрын
And then bottas swoop in to take it all....nah...
@FarelfarrasH
@FarelfarrasH 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bearical 👀
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 3 жыл бұрын
Hamilton is not even top 3, let alone GOAT
@ralphaverill2001
@ralphaverill2001 3 жыл бұрын
To a relative neophyte like me, or to someone new to F1, this video is an excellent demonstration of the astounding technical complexity of F1 cars and the teams' remarkable ability to manufacture newly designed engines, engine parts, bodypanels etc. seemingly on the fly. It also illustrates the lengths teams go to gain a few tiny fractions of a second a lap, in a sport where a full second a lap and eternity are almost the same thing.
@quintonworden6318
@quintonworden6318 3 жыл бұрын
The engineering that goes into getting even the slightest advantage in F1 is really incredible. When you consider just how advanced all the teams are being at the end of a long era of regulations the margins for improvement have to be so slim but teams still find clever ways to get an advantage. After the Austria doubleheader it seemed like RedBull had the clear upper hand but Merc has been out developing them since, I am also impressed with how competitive Ferrari looks after their power upgrades too even though they are not in the title fight.
@TheLpd1
@TheLpd1 3 жыл бұрын
This is the type of video I love the most, keep it up please!!!! It's amazing
@kl9518
@kl9518 3 жыл бұрын
Learn so much in 12 minutes. Just proves that designer and engineers play a big part in winning not the drivers. Change points system, wins for manufacturers = deduction for drivers.
@junsengjs
@junsengjs 3 жыл бұрын
The WCC holds the prize money. The only thing that the WDC brings is just a title. Its really because of how the media and all portrays the WDC that the WDC looks more important, but the WCC is where the prize money is. Hungary GP was a pretty good point in illustrating that, the teams that aren't fighting for WDC are purely fighting for WCC, Alpine's Alonso defending against Hamilton, Williams' Russell told his team to prioritize his teammate who was ahead, all of that was because they are fighting for WCC.
@Marcushalberstram749
@Marcushalberstram749 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott! I love your analysis of F1 driving styles and I was wondering if you could cover one on ricciardo’s driving style and why he’s struggling at mclaren - I’m sure lots of other fans would love to hear your insights on this!
@tomasbucek8922
@tomasbucek8922 3 жыл бұрын
I think The Race has covered this topic a while ago. Another great channel for F1 content imho
@raceyrache8463
@raceyrache8463 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the best of autoaction became the race. The four best channels are The Race, Formula World, Aidan Millward and of course Driver61. This is where I get breaking news, facts and rumours of all F1 shenanigans
@MposhaOfficial
@MposhaOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Pressurise a liquid, and it's freezing temp reduces that's how (I Presume) mec cools a coolant below its freezing point .
@st3althyone
@st3althyone 3 жыл бұрын
“Verstappen parking his car on top of Hamilton’s…” That was priceless Scott! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@blobers8566
@blobers8566 3 жыл бұрын
Time?
@LocPH.
@LocPH. 3 жыл бұрын
@@blobers8566 in the beginning but he said Max and Lewis
@pmvdmeulen
@pmvdmeulen 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Completely wrong. Lulu pushed Max again, this time on top of him.
@acambo89
@acambo89 3 жыл бұрын
Was it tho? British comedy smh
@leonardoluc6362
@leonardoluc6362 3 жыл бұрын
Sir Scamilton is innocent ha ha in the Silverstone accident hitting Max right rear sending Max into the hospital and than celebrating as it worked out briljant. Now kneel fan boy.
@jhiawei
@jhiawei 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just VTEC power
@mgustafson2010
@mgustafson2010 3 жыл бұрын
Honda smelled blood in the air and are fighting to beat Mercedes in their last season. That's pretty exciting even if you're a merc fan
@mariamalgorzata4974
@mariamalgorzata4974 3 жыл бұрын
they arent fully leaving yet they will fully leavein 2023
@mgustafson2010
@mgustafson2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariamalgorzata4974 I know but if I remember aren't they acting more as advisors to Red Bull more than an actual manufacturer partner?
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgustafson2010 i mean honda F1 does not want to stop.. its some bigwigs in japan that made the decision because so many countries are banning combustion engines after 2030
@Slapsamillion
@Slapsamillion 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how hard Honda are going when they're laving F1 at the end of the year.
@jondonnelly3
@jondonnelly3 3 жыл бұрын
Honda going all electric, F1 dosn't showcase that so has to go but they transferring all the tech and many engineers are moving from Honda to Red Bull. So it's ok.
@MrShadowofthewind
@MrShadowofthewind 3 жыл бұрын
They're not entirely going, they will still supervise and build the engines for the next 4 years.
@Slapsamillion
@Slapsamillion 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrShadowofthewind yea aren't they just selling the entire department? The building, IP, and probably most of the staff too? I think I read that VW/Porsche was a frontrunner?
@sp8ed
@sp8ed 2 жыл бұрын
And now they are not leaving until 2026..
@SpoonerTV
@SpoonerTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great segue to the sponsor bit. I could tell you enjoyed it as well.
@troeteimarsch
@troeteimarsch 3 жыл бұрын
RB: keep it simple Mercedes: let's over-engineer german style :D
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 3 жыл бұрын
and make sure we need special tools to service it.. the german way
@redlinearroyo847
@redlinearroyo847 3 жыл бұрын
@@notastone4832 I like to think that Honda is so efficient that they even use factory Honda oil filters as well. Just standard 10 mm bolts everywhere and basic factory air filters hidden in there
@petet968
@petet968 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. You don't hear about the engineering on Sky. They dumb it down.
@nm-1-m159
@nm-1-m159 3 жыл бұрын
Got people like PDR who don't know about f1 commentating and doing race analysis 🤣
@andre.1984
@andre.1984 3 жыл бұрын
F1 TV has tech talk show with Craig Scarborough.
@mulgerbill
@mulgerbill 3 жыл бұрын
Sly dumbs EVERYTHING down
@petet968
@petet968 3 жыл бұрын
@@mulgerbill I stopped watching everything but the race when they had the drivers racing remote control cars. Who's stupid idea was that? Jeez.
@petet968
@petet968 3 жыл бұрын
@@nm-1-m159 Who's PDR?
@jackimo22
@jackimo22 3 жыл бұрын
Supercooling is done by pressurising the fluid and chemical additives that prevent the water molecules binding. The plenum would have to be a 3D printed lattice structure to take the high pressure of up to 10bar (10x atmospheric pressure)
@letsseetofindout2560
@letsseetofindout2560 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a chemistry genius 👍
@davidtube79
@davidtube79 3 жыл бұрын
10 bar is not that high a public avalible to by presure washer is 25 bar
@jackimo22
@jackimo22 3 жыл бұрын
@@letsseetofindout2560Process/Chem engineer. Began my working life completing a four year apprenticeship as a fitter/machinist and worked as a tradesman for 10 years specialising in Fluidpower before going to university.
@jackimo22
@jackimo22 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidtube79 you’re right, though 10bar over such a large surface area is a big task to keep contained without rupture and keeping it all lightweight still. The surface area of the tubing and hoses of a pressure washer is tiny in comparison to a plenum. Domestic pressure washers are available up to 250-300bar. Commercial pressure washers go upwards of 2500bar for large industrial application, like removing linings of process equipment.
@pawelsobczak4015
@pawelsobczak4015 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is going with the fluid to the supercooled state. There is huge disadvantage of this solution that fluid can solidify just by acceleration or shake that f1 car produce on track. I would go with chemical additives to point where fluid stays fluid. Maybe my knowledge is to small in this area. Another question is if liquid is cooled under pressure is it supercooled? Whats the point of another pomp in the system that consumes energy?
@ham-handeddesigns5252
@ham-handeddesigns5252 3 жыл бұрын
That was the very best explanation of the MGU-H I’ve ever seen. Thank you!
@Flamingpangolin
@Flamingpangolin 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested, you can experience a super cooled liquid at home. Take bottled water and put it in the freezer for a few hours. Take it out before it starts freezing. Hit the bottle and the water will instantly crystallise in the bottle. I've found that sparklink water works bets as you can pour it into a glass ten drop an ice cube in to watch it turn into slush. The fact that Mercedes can cool the coolant enough to achieve this is a feat. Especially that close to a very hot engine.
@stefanmayer444
@stefanmayer444 3 жыл бұрын
Those Sodium Acetate hand wormers work by the same principle. The solution is supercooled too and needs a "seed" for crystallisation to occur. By bending the metal inside the wormer, small crystals are released and start the crystallisation.
@DaveKill3R27
@DaveKill3R27 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t understand a single thing but I still enjoyed very much 😂😂 Great channel, subscribed!
@PannenTheKoek
@PannenTheKoek 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he sounds drunk or high. Bad articulating and really inconsistent speaking. Other videos he's speaking really clear and relaxed, and here he's all over the place.. or do you mean the words he uses?
@Bahamuttiamat
@Bahamuttiamat 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave TheBrave Don't waste your time, he's wrong about many things. You're better off subbing to @chainbear
@st3althyone
@st3althyone 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bahamuttiamat WTF are you on about, Scott does an excellent job breaking down the complicated world of Formula 1.
@mudtennis9842
@mudtennis9842 3 жыл бұрын
@@PannenTheKoek i could understand him completely fine
@PannenTheKoek
@PannenTheKoek 3 жыл бұрын
@@mudtennis9842 I can understand him even though English isn't my first language, but he sounds off compared to the other videos. As I said, he articulates and speaks overall differently.
@jankempynck3745
@jankempynck3745 3 жыл бұрын
Honda will have to come with another upgrade because the Mercedes last Brasil upgrade was huge, so huge that is very suspected.
@jzxtrd337
@jzxtrd337 3 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how much Honda has improved with RedBull money behind them. Variable intake runners, how innovative, its not like they were used on a early 1990's Mazda 787B. Im a bit puzzled as to how Mercedes is keeping this "Super Cooled" coolant at this super cooled temperature during a full race, it will require a lot of energy to keep it so cold.
@kirisaki.777
@kirisaki.777 3 жыл бұрын
bruh the sponsor transition is smoother that sliding in for the first time
@xaf0163
@xaf0163 3 жыл бұрын
i’m assuming by sliding in you mean intercourse, which, really is not smooth at all, especially if you’re with a virgin.
@nippyseven
@nippyseven 3 жыл бұрын
@@xaf0163 it should be. maybe invest in some lube :/
@ilovehappyemos
@ilovehappyemos Жыл бұрын
Variable length trumpets were used on the Mazda 787B as well. Helped to give the already efficient at high rpm rotary, a big boost in torque. Made the powerband much wider.
@ashclub1
@ashclub1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Immensely helpful and insightful content. Two thumbs up for Driver 61. I was scratching my head after the Turkish gp, about Mercs speed.
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that always surprises me is that we constantly hear about designers going to absolute extremes to keep the centre of gravity low in order to maximise mechanical grip, which is particularly important in the low speed corners, because there's minimal downforce at low speed. And since the Red Bull seems to be quick in low speed corners, you would imagine it has a particularly low centre of gravity. But given that the high rake design lifts the whole engine, gearbox, fuel tank, rear suspension etc several inches higher than a low rake car, the Red Bull centre of gravity must be massively higher than the Mercedes in low speed corners. It just doesn't make any sense.
@cdb420
@cdb420 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the super cooling goes, if the pressure of the liquid is increased it can also reach below its freezing temperature.
@deegan463
@deegan463 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to hear more confirmed/semi confirmed nuances about the power units, as well as how this "super cooling" system works as a whole!
@ThatCrazyKid0007
@ThatCrazyKid0007 3 жыл бұрын
That was really informative, I love deep dives into the engineering behid the cars without going too heavy on the physics that make it happen. Great video mate.
@marcelL1605
@marcelL1605 3 жыл бұрын
As you say in the end, both are ahead of the pack because of genius engineering, but both philosophies are legit, and it only comes down to how the high performance is put on the street in given circumstances. I think the one, who can push itself as a team and their car to 100% each race weekend, will win the championship. It might be decided by little errors as Hamilton and Mercedes did in Turkey (good idea to take only the 10 place grid penalty but then not to box in the right window, which was a delicate decision).
@Max-pi7ri
@Max-pi7ri 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this video really goes to show How much the Honda Power Unit has been improved It's sad that they are pulling out of the sport after becoming more competitive again
@HocusPocus7474
@HocusPocus7474 3 жыл бұрын
So, this is aging very well...
@harrysweeting1435
@harrysweeting1435 3 жыл бұрын
*Hass furiously taking notes*+
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting. All that talk from 2015 about how McLaren’s stubborn “size zero” chassis was incompatible with Honda’s engine, and now Red Bull is fighting at the top of field with the most efficient engines on the grid with Honda
@amandioamaral
@amandioamaral 3 жыл бұрын
I’d consider 3D print engine parts to optimize the weigh reduction as well the design for better aerodynamics.
@axel3895
@axel3895 3 жыл бұрын
Not strong enough
@amandioamaral
@amandioamaral 3 жыл бұрын
​@@axel3895It depends I guess. If the correct alloy is used and the is model structurally verified should work. Czinger is a supercar brand using this kind of technology.
@samuelg9115
@samuelg9115 3 жыл бұрын
Oh. My. God. I thought these cars were complicated but now I think they are total rocketships!
@beast667
@beast667 3 жыл бұрын
Check out his video about the time they actually ran on rocket fuel then 😂
@GranDaddo
@GranDaddo 3 жыл бұрын
Covid done more for F1 than FIA last 20 years. Last year was incredible with midfield battles and this year one of best title fights. It would not be the same if some decisions were not made because of covid. Aaaaaand 2022. is ahead with new rules!
@8power0
@8power0 3 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS THE MOST INFORMATION ON F1 ENGINES ,,, I HAVE EVER HEARD OR SEEN . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE I TRULY HOPE THERE WILL BE MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@cocosloan3748
@cocosloan3748 3 жыл бұрын
Next episode idea : "Why not make cylinders oval shape ?"
@gamesofpain2920
@gamesofpain2920 3 жыл бұрын
my guess is longer strokes cause you would need more fuel and air mixture, i have a question though what would be the benefits of it?
@brieucvand
@brieucvand 3 жыл бұрын
Star shape would be better imo
@matiasfpm
@matiasfpm 3 жыл бұрын
Honda NS500 intensifies
@hunterreeves6525
@hunterreeves6525 3 жыл бұрын
Same reason why pressurized tanks aren’t ovals, a circle is the best shape to handle pressure. Same for planes too actually
@Flamingpangolin
@Flamingpangolin 3 жыл бұрын
Because ovals would not distribute the stress equally like spheres. The stresses would be "concentrated" in the narower portions of the oval
@ar5000
@ar5000 3 жыл бұрын
3:59-re: ice water radiator, ice oil cooler, etc... You have an engine putting out 1000 HP (ie, 735kW) but at least that much is generated in the form of heat. Given that you effectively have a 700kW heater, the ice isn't going to last very long.
@Jasontvnd9
@Jasontvnd9 2 жыл бұрын
700kw heater being cooled by driving around a track at 150mph+ Wind chill is very high at that kindoff speed.
@Adam_Marshall
@Adam_Marshall 2 жыл бұрын
Pushing an engine past its limit could be 10 to 20 degrees in temp not that much any extra cooling could give u a big edge (imagine the temp of the turbo alone)
@feeadftth
@feeadftth 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah "secret updates" while Merc's upgrades at Silverstone make it fucking fly and no one bats an eye...
@tilted2749
@tilted2749 3 жыл бұрын
The upgrades red bull are doing is not much for performance but for the reliability
@travdripdrip382
@travdripdrip382 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is very good at explaining complex stuff in a way even i can understand it.
@AnotherMartinez
@AnotherMartinez 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best F1 channel - thank you!
@ravener96
@ravener96 2 жыл бұрын
Super cooled could imply a partially solid liquid mix, like a slush. Spacex uses super cooled propellants, and this is what is ment in that case. The liquid oxygen is delivered to the vehicle as a slush, and the engines are tuned to run with fuel in that state.
@iscrubsoapmctavish9311
@iscrubsoapmctavish9311 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he’s like “in simple terms” then explains something very complex
@d1pz9
@d1pz9 3 жыл бұрын
Could you perhaps touch on the reasons these two engines sound different? Hearing them in person its quite noticable, the different flutter sounds of the RB and intake sounds from the Mercedes. They are the best sounding engines on the grid!
@rhyswilliams4893
@rhyswilliams4893 2 жыл бұрын
The noise of the red bull off the throttle(over run) is the exhaust gases working on the mgu h like he explained
@rhyswilliams4893
@rhyswilliams4893 2 жыл бұрын
The Honda sounds brutal when it's off throttle going into a corner. Similar to the blown diffuser days
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 I'm not sure what type of coolant Mercedes is using, but I find it hard to believe they are using coolant that is being cooled to below it's freezing point. Water freezes at 0 C/32 F, so unless their car has some sort of refrigerator on board, there's no way they're supercooling coolant using just ambient airflow (and F1 races don't usually occur when it's below freezing outside). If I had to guess, "supercooled" in this context does not mean the coolant is being cooled below its freezing point, but rather it means that the coolant is being cooled below its boiling point. When referring to systems that use a combination of vapor and liquid (more believable in this context), supercooled means the vapor-liquid mixture is being cooled below the temperature that all of the vapor condenses into liquid. That being said, I am making the assumption that their coolant is primarily water. This makes sense as most cars use water-based coolant, and water has an extremely high specific heat capacity, so it transfers heat very effectively for it's weight. But if they're using some exotic chemical for their coolant, my argument is null.
@alesksander
@alesksander 3 жыл бұрын
Also tech rules forbit any phase change coolands. So yeah hard to said if that is true. Plus intake plenum temperature is monitored by FIA ECU.
@dandewar8403
@dandewar8403 3 жыл бұрын
@@alesksander yes FIA monitor intake temperature, it can only be from memory 10c lower than ambient temperature, that’s why Redbull questioned where the temperature sensor has to be fitted because it’s thought Mercedes are running coolant through the intake manifold AFTER the sensor reducing intake temps.
@alesksander
@alesksander 3 жыл бұрын
@@dandewar8403 Yeah maybe. But FIA tech officers are not dumb or are they? If there is something on this i imagine this is almost carbon copy situation of Ferrari. Maybe they really use "cavity" inside carbon plenum to provide that advantage. Technically is possible yes. But huge red flag against that is how Mercedes out willingly spoken about revolutionary" plenum design before and even during this season. Normally Merc operates under smoke and mirrors tactics. Whole 2013 season was meme, 2014-2016 hiding aero dominance, 2017 diva car with Pirelli understandings - those pesky wheel rims and lobby for oil burning etc. I guess there advantage is on other place or there are none. Maybe they just perfected combustion of this hybrid are to perfection. Nowadays they just squeezing as much performance they can .So they got perf issues. naturally. And luckily for them in next seasons you can resolve any anomaly's even under freezing rules. So is worth it to push harder and fix thingies later. Overall design seems just solid for them. Same for Honda witch impressive resurgence and catch up gets them high praise and any magic bullets are very unlikely at this stage.
@sangitachavan6227
@sangitachavan6227 3 жыл бұрын
Your right. They area managing to cooling liquid its boiling temp not freeze. And also air in intercooler cant be cooled below anbient temp.
@tom_forsyth
@tom_forsyth 2 жыл бұрын
7:36 - variable-length intakes are not common in road cars, but they do exist. My Caterham has a Zetec with variable-length inlets (it's the fancy Zetec from the Ford Focus SVT), and it does indeed work really well with a much flatter torque curve than the standard Zetec.
@rickrepresentacoesehistori6471
@rickrepresentacoesehistori6471 3 жыл бұрын
Max you had a brilliant race in Brazil, great job, you are an example of professional and education, I'm Brazilian and you're already a champion, I'm rooting for you.
@stepladder3257
@stepladder3257 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Outofcontrol39
@Outofcontrol39 3 жыл бұрын
That's sarcasm, for those of you who didn't get it?
@SnugMoney
@SnugMoney 3 жыл бұрын
Pressurizing a liquid will reduce it’s freezing point, if I am not entirely mistaken. This could be what they are doing to supercool it - just pressurize it.
@michallach1
@michallach1 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was clear just by looking at the graph.
@threepe0
@threepe0 2 жыл бұрын
The coolant is cooled below it's freezing temperature (at atmospheric pressure) it's nothing to do with how fast it's cooled, it's pressure that is used to alter the freezing temperature.
@charlesm.9858
@charlesm.9858 3 жыл бұрын
This season will ONLY BE EPIC IF Redbull Honda wins!!
@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater
@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater Жыл бұрын
Well this video certainly proved prophetic!
@sandalphoncpu
@sandalphoncpu 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a team that can properly develop their car at the same level as Mercedes, unlike a certain team whom has got outdeveloped at the 2nd half of the season twice
@TheTororist
@TheTororist 3 жыл бұрын
Horners been saying this week that merc have made a leap
@pi_za8214
@pi_za8214 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTororist with the new engines theyve turned up the power i believe
@jayb2705
@jayb2705 3 жыл бұрын
2017 and 2018 had so much potential, Ferrari vs Mercedes, Vettel vs Hamilton. How the hell does Ferrari not check spark plugs properly?
@vandansonkar7819
@vandansonkar7819 2 жыл бұрын
Seb was phenomenal thought. Drove like a champ but Ferrari fucked up and Vettel fucked up at Singapore 2017 and Germany 2018
@oncameramastery
@oncameramastery 3 жыл бұрын
How they get that kind of power out of a 1.6 is amazing!
@fsnnetwork2918
@fsnnetwork2918 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first season we saw a title fight that might go down to the wire aka Abu Dhabi since 2016 and 2011 I think but I could be wrong with 2011
@BananJumper
@BananJumper 3 жыл бұрын
2:48 daaaaamn, those shots are marvelous
@joswa5251
@joswa5251 3 жыл бұрын
any idea how we can get those pictures and motion pictures ?
@BananJumper
@BananJumper 3 жыл бұрын
I would guess that its 4-8k, high fps camera with quality lenses or some AI editing magic, dunno.
@alibaba1881
@alibaba1881 3 жыл бұрын
this didnt age well after todays race
@finlaycarson1349
@finlaycarson1349 3 жыл бұрын
0:50 look how proud he is of that sugué
@rohanjose4967
@rohanjose4967 3 жыл бұрын
Best season in forever
@thbabni
@thbabni 3 жыл бұрын
All because rule changes screwed over a team to benefit another...
@givemeabreak8784
@givemeabreak8784 3 жыл бұрын
Very detailed and informative video. Can't be found anywhere on the internet. Fabulous job and very well explained. The best F1 engeneering material. Well done 👍
@johnsvensson6540
@johnsvensson6540 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you. How does all this work with this years rule that improvements are not allowed if they are not for durability purposes?
@givemeabreak8784
@givemeabreak8784 3 жыл бұрын
They are allowed one update on each component. Renault runs with last year's engine and they are going for a new split turbo engine next year.
@ShivamQHD
@ShivamQHD 2 жыл бұрын
hamilton may have lost championship but that saucy brazil engine is still in my mind
@OlaJustin
@OlaJustin 3 жыл бұрын
The Merc has had a massive power boost since Silverstone. RB's got no chance on the straight anymore. Let's see if it punishes the merc's reliability. Great video though, it's exactly the things that makes one an F1 fan no matter if the races are boring or not. :D
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 3 жыл бұрын
Honda also improved the coating on the pistons. This coating was engineered for MotoGP. It allows them to extract more power out of the engine.
@ForzaPolska06
@ForzaPolska06 3 жыл бұрын
Despite that Mercedes is still 20kph faster on the straights
@emrenamlegji7845
@emrenamlegji7845 3 жыл бұрын
"Are you driver61?" one of the highlights of my 2021, keep making great videos, and love from Turkey.
@roflchopter11
@roflchopter11 3 жыл бұрын
How does Merc cool their coolant below ambient temperature? I don't buy it.
@fluffywarhampster
@fluffywarhampster 3 жыл бұрын
possibly inducing some form of vacume or low pressure area like an a/c system
@roflchopter11
@roflchopter11 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffywarhampster yeah, but what's the working fluid? Coolant? Oil? Hydraulic fluid? Fuel?
@fluffywarhampster
@fluffywarhampster 3 жыл бұрын
@@roflchopter11 who knows...
@sanguineotter5778
@sanguineotter5778 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I was trying to figure this out as well. In theory if you could bleed some compressed air off the inlet (after the intercooler) then expand that back to ambient pressure you might be able to get below ambient temp. Maybe run that air through a cooler to cool your working fluid? Not even sure it's possible once you account for efficiencies and relatively small heat capacity of the bleed air compared to the plenum air. I don't think they'd be using a refrigerant cycle (doubt the rules would even allow that) due to weight and the power loss to run the compressor.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 3 жыл бұрын
I recall watching this and referring back to it as Red Bull exhibited real improvments. Then, there was Sao Paulo. Mercedes was in a different category from all other cars, or at least Hamilton was.
@Mikkeen2
@Mikkeen2 3 жыл бұрын
Its quite remarkable how Mercedes has closed the deficit to Redbull compared to the start of the season. No matter what obstacle FIA throws with new regulations they will find a way.
@robh9577
@robh9577 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, banning flexible wings, and electronic pit stop confirms and changing the tire construction and air pressures really hurt Mercedes. Lmao
@Mattamaza
@Mattamaza 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and a great summary of some of the technical developments
@GotAdam1
@GotAdam1 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait to the see the new cars, as all the drivers are great but the result seems to come down to who has the fastest car instead of driving skill. I do like the fact the cars are different but when one or two teams are so far ahead it's unfair. Hamilton is a great driver in the fastest car so doesn't normally have competition he gets way out in front, next year we will see if he can actually battle and drive well with other probably equally skilled drivers keeping the pressure on assuming he is even at the or near the front of the pack might not be the case next year, although I'm sure Mercedes will bend as many rules as possible to make sure they have the best car again.
@Shabec2982
@Shabec2982 2 жыл бұрын
Out thinking your opponents isn’t “unfair” if it’s within the rules regulations. Don’t blame the Mercedes’ engineers for being more clever than their rivals. Don’t complained about “Mercedes’ dominance”. Complain to your favorite constructors about why they’re unable to match technical skill and know how.
@dzemalmemisevic7887
@dzemalmemisevic7887 3 жыл бұрын
why is every one keeping quiet about mercedes front wing flex. in Turkey the wing flexed so much i could not believe it.
@alexanderandersson4093
@alexanderandersson4093 3 жыл бұрын
I hope max wins
@gamingandtechnology6913
@gamingandtechnology6913 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care who ever wins. But this has given birth to next gen technology, the more competitive teams get the better equipment they build ..... Engines, aero etc etc getting more advance and efficient ..... Can't wait for f1 22.... I love your videos Scott , you are the best
@no101
@no101 3 жыл бұрын
F1 isnt about winning or losing. Not even who's cheating. It's about who gets screwed over the most every year by stupid rule changes.
@otooleniall
@otooleniall 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the new Honda energy store which had remained unchanged since 2014. It is lighter and more efficient.
@andre_star7776
@andre_star7776 3 жыл бұрын
Toto Wolff wants to know you location Bono, James Alisson and James Wolves are intensively taking notes
@aaronscheer8130
@aaronscheer8130 3 жыл бұрын
0:49 look how proud of that segue he is!
@stableianF1oracle
@stableianF1oracle 3 жыл бұрын
Just got to hope Lewis totals his car to make up for trying to kill Max at Silverstone
@4ntoCatch
@4ntoCatch 3 жыл бұрын
your no F1 expert if you believe that
@stableianF1oracle
@stableianF1oracle 3 жыл бұрын
@@4ntoCatch Let's pretend that it was an accident lol .. can we also pretend that there's a God as well and that father Xmas gives toys to 2 billion kids in one night. 🤣🤣
@4ntoCatch
@4ntoCatch 3 жыл бұрын
@@stableianF1oracle Tactical foul perhaps. Max played chicken on the outside of copse . Not wise . Nico said it never goes right on the outside of Lewis .
@stableianF1oracle
@stableianF1oracle 3 жыл бұрын
@@4ntoCatch Not sure Max leaving Lewis 15 ft for a 6ft wide car is chicken ... Lewis went beyond his skill and control level and knew he'd send max into the wall. As I say I hope Lewis twats a wall this year so he knows what max went through. With a gimpy 10 second penalty for attempted murder max should do some high speed skulduggery and give Lewis a nice concrete dinner. Lol 🤣
@4ntoCatch
@4ntoCatch 3 жыл бұрын
@@stableianF1oracle Lewis was legally squeezed into the inside corner and was never going to make that apex space at that speed. Max would have known that. It looked like Lewis was starting to back out as he was understeering just before contact tbh and it was wheel contact not a T bone shunt . Max didnt believe it was done with intent either, he was annoyed with Lewis for his post race celebrations. Peace
@frankbieser
@frankbieser 3 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the split turbo also allows for simplified plumbing, which allows for tighter packaging. Why the others haven't gone this route already I don't understand.
@bobbynofsinger4897
@bobbynofsinger4897 3 жыл бұрын
All engine makes have adopted it by now but Honda is the first to use it in that form of way. Merc was the first to do it and since it helped with engine power and efficiency. Renault and Ferrari both adopted the improvement as well.
@mrj3217
@mrj3217 3 жыл бұрын
I am really pulling for Max here . He is such a great wheel to wheel racer.
@xturner09
@xturner09 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video explaining F1 logistics. Like how the pack and ship the cars and equipment
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 3 жыл бұрын
I might dislike Formula 1, I still recognize your videos are a real pleasure to watch =) Great channel =)
@michaeltorrey
@michaeltorrey 3 жыл бұрын
Like I say In a Year You will Hit 1 million, You are so clear and simple when you explain, is amazing.
@beagle7622
@beagle7622 3 жыл бұрын
In 1967 Lotus got the DFV & the Lotus 49.. They already had Jim Clark. He won races not the car . Yes it was faster than the Brabham in a straight line but Jack’s cars still won the championship. Graham Hill couldn’t get the car to work . I haven’t watched the end yet but Louis is becoming a major factor in Mercedes winning Races.By 1968 the DFV was totally dominant.
@slevingaius
@slevingaius 3 жыл бұрын
Come 2022 i hope Honda's engine being compact will give them the advantage given the change to fuel, tire and aero dynamics.
@mickvonbornemann3824
@mickvonbornemann3824 3 жыл бұрын
With charger pressurerized fuel, electronic control of spark & electronic control of pneumatic valves you could design the engine to run as a 2 stroke at high revs while making sure it only runs 4 stroke during stationary testing. Mind you with a crank designed for a 4 stroke 720 degree firing order V6, while in 2 stroke mode one will be doing 2 concurrent 2 stroke 3 cylinder cycles. But that’s no big deal, that’s how Ricardo’s dual stroker works, (I assume). Having double the power strokes means more power regardless of the fact they’re concurrent.
@lokihan1er
@lokihan1er 3 жыл бұрын
Toto wolf already said that the result at silverstone confirmed something and that they unlocking a new thing, a new path. He didn't elaborate. Whatever Redbull is cooking, Mercedes is doing something even crazier.
@AdotLOM
@AdotLOM 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I've never bought the idea of RB somehow "having the better car" this season, or the notion of RB and Merc having "swapped places". Many of the people saying this tended to ignore such points made about Merc in past seasons on the string of their success, owing credit to the drivers when they probably didn't make up that difference on performance that people would want to think.
@thbabni
@thbabni 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdotLOM The Redbull having a better car thing comes from the regulation which removed downforce elements (Kept the different pressure Air from going under the car?! Not sure but something like that) from the skirt of the Mercedes' but Redbull are not as affected as much cause they run a (High rake, Shorter Car) compared to Mercedes (Low Rake, Longer Car) Basically, the FIA stopped another team to benefit another (hindsight 2020)
@nm-1-m159
@nm-1-m159 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mercedes wings got clipped, add that to the fact that this years car was on the back burner early so they could focus on next year's car is pretty much an insult as if to say any other teams that are close are only because of hindrance/focusing on another era
@ajaymanoj3527
@ajaymanoj3527 3 жыл бұрын
From great power comes great responsibilities. Mercedes can't afford to make even one mistake while maintainance because their system is much more complex than any other F1 cars and that makes it more prone to system failure on track a small hit could possibly disrupt the system but on the contrary redbull engines use less complex system and care more about aerodynamics. Don't know if my views are wrong or not.
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for closer racing next year, but I kinda hate that F1 is turning into a spec series
@phoenixboyz
@phoenixboyz 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what is the secret for Mercedes in the last Istanbul GP that RB keeps whining they can't catch up on them
@doargietweitervandah
@doargietweitervandah 3 жыл бұрын
1. Mercedes had more info hetzelfde on the track by doing more research in advance. 2. They boosted the turbo. But the question keeping this kind of pace up until the end of seaseon still remains.
@arielnaveh6020
@arielnaveh6020 3 жыл бұрын
the phase diagram you show as 8:24 is actually of water. the line solid-liquid separation line going with a negative slope is called the anomaly of water, since in most materials this line has a positive slope. so i'm not sure the phase diagram here tells the correct physics of supercooling
@tzeffsmainchannel
@tzeffsmainchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, professor Driver61!
@yigithan3713
@yigithan3713 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait the 2022 season Both because new cars and Russell
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