Red Card offence by coach?

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[@Roxascension]

One warning during a competition (not a match) with a let would be OK. If the coach happens to be speaking again, the point should immediately be given to the opposing team, no questions asked. After that, if the coach persists and continues to distract/cheat, he should be forced to watch the game from a far distance as punishment. This is pure cheating, this has to be taken seriously.

[@csoffline7820]

VS: 'Why talking when I am serving? Indian Coach: Ok, I will sing.

[@user-kg6qi3sd7s]

And dance

[@vickyyadav5723]

😂😂

[@yusufrivai306]

LOLLLLLL 🤣

[@cowocemong4509]

And he needs alit of trees 😅

[@jlenardwang977]

im dying

[@ShuttleFlash]

Currently, under the laws of badminton, the umpire can only play a let if the coach is coaching or causing a distraction during a rally. What are your opinions? I think a fault should be called immediately and the point be awarded to the opposing team.

[@geraldsetiokusumo9094]

IMO, i think in this case, maybe yellow card will be awarding to the coach(same rules as player) also if 2 times than red card(same rules again) or maybe same as soccer/football when yellow card is warn and red card you must out from the court. Play a let is kinda unfair when the case is like Malaysian pair vs Japanese pair(long rally, no punishment for japanese)

[@andrewjames4904]

Immediate red card with loss of point and serve. Everyone at this level know the rules so there is no plausible excuse! It's straight up cheating!

[@pikachu8508]

I think a fault or a red card is too lenient. A straight black card is more appropriate, any forms of cheating are unsportsmanlike and should never be tolerated.

[@MSalarAyub]

Imajine getting a really high lift in the centre in which you can score easily and the opponents coach says something and now its let, like this could very well be used as a tactic to casue a repeat of the point.

[@mdth2012]

I think the yellow/red card approach similar to that applied to players can also be applied to coaches. Regarding intentional shouting, we can leave it to the discretion of the umpire, as they can choose to not interrupt a rally if he sees that the other side is having advantage. This same logic is used in other sports as well, but it will give the umpire more responsibility.

[@adasp23]

What if your players are on the verge of losing a very crucial rally? The coach can just yell and get a let.

[@yu86832]

Good point

[@timothhyf]

that is why a penalty must be given if a coach yell, not just a let

[@1Flyingfist]

​@@timothhyfAutomatically thrown out is better them, yes?

[@yknowwhatitistt2342]

Kei Nakashima(Japanese women's double coach) has done these SEVERAL times. and act innocents after, why is nothing done?

[@poopolindos7163]

Agree

[@whatsouremergency_999]

as a malaysian, i respect rexy mainaky from Indonesia for standing up for malaysian players

[@fadhilah.chaniago]

He is your team coach. Hhhh

[@RayFliesAway]

Wtf what a dumb comment😂😂😂

[@adityarawat6160]

You forget to add denmark's coach

[@annawatson2532]

Denmark, Netherland, France = The Angry Birds

[@krishgujjar705]

A 106 shots rally shouldnt be declared as a let of disrupted by the coach thats just unfair

[@marcelgabor4383]

I agree with you. But from a rules standpoint there is nothing that an umpire can do here besides giving a let.

[@caturutomo443]

Yes they should warn or make sure that the coach didn't give the player instruction or direction when the play is on. Player's judgement about in or out is also part of the skill they have to own by themselves

[@michaelp9061]

So this coach has done it again and again.

[@adasp23]

The intentions of the Japanese and Chinese coach seems different only bcz of the scoreline. Therefore, neither is justified.

[@nicholaskhoong]

I think it no longer should even be a let, it should be straight red card for the team of the particular player involve and point to the opposing player, this is cheating esp when the Japanese coach was telling the player to let go as it was out . if the coach doing it again in the second time ,black card , game over the opponent should be given a walk over . This will deter the coaches to shut up during the game . Sometimes we need harsh rules to deter things like this from happening

[@alienck3901]

The first out is very obvious.. that coaching 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@faridmony9935]

Interesting video about what's going on during the game.

[@zeft-gn5by]

Kei nakashima so annoying and why he doesn't getting punishment

[@LC-wq3qf]

Also 2019 World Championship, when Matsutomo and Takahashi played with Du Yue and Li Yinhui

[@wordlesspoetry565]

And olympic final against Juhl/Pedersen. Kei nakashima can't seem to keep his mouth shut.

[@Evoskylution17]

nahhh Badminton sport needs a whole lot of improvement in rules other than just these kind of issues. Exploits are everywhere.

[@benteng4621]

I think it depends on what the coach said during a rally. If he is just encouraging the players not to give up during a pulsating rally, it should be OK. Sometimes the umpire is quick to make a call when he perceived there is a fault when there isn't, what recourse does the players has?

[@robertadamson912]

simply best not to talk during a rally, not all umpires are multi lingual and will fault or let the rally regardless

[@muhammad.0909]

Nakashima Kei (Japanese Coash) is typically talkactive...

[@user-yx8vp7oh4m]

Sounds like Chinese coach was shouting for the players to "put it forward" which is not a shout of excitement but a genuine violation of coaching during rally.

[@llamaheist5443]

i am a fan of japanese badminton players and japan is one of my favorite teams. but this should NOT be allowed. the coach should be fined / punished but i don't necessarily think that the players should be punished more than calling a fault / point for the other team.

[@kelvintham5602]

Introduce yellow & red card to the coaches just like football

[@AriqyRaihan]

The Japanese coach is really make it habitual wkwk

[@maxwellpeter204]

They forget to put Denmark coach

[@pikachu8508]

It's time to BWF update this rule to become much stricter. Instead of a let, the umpire should be required to show a red card(1 point and serve given to opponent) if the coach unintentionally causing distraction, or a black card(disqualification) if the coach deliberately distracts the opponent or coaching the player during the rally. This can be considered as cheating and should never be tolerated.

[@afniii7514]

that japanese coach is so annoying , i watched thousands of match involving japanese wd player and he's very vocal during rallies. he should be punished because it's unfair

[@karanarora9437]

Denmark doubles coach yelling to the service judge when Rankireddy/Shettt were playing Rasmussen/Astrup in world championship 2023. I know the Indians lost that game eventually but that incident has to be in the video

[@kriskiellandLTS]

if it happens as it did with viktor-prannoy, then give him a "only 1 warning" kinda like a yellow card in football. But if it happens in a game, he should be removed immediately from the game for the rest of the tournament... they need to be very clear about rules nowadays, and its good that umpire notices, but this isnt even close to being one of the biggest problems in badminton... there is time wasting, giving the shuttlecock away rudely and then theres the thanking coach at the end of the game before the other players and judges.. there is so much that has gone south in the international badminton scene right now that should be put to place... why is this a video to make instead of actually making a video that matters?

[@p.g6492]

not surprised BWF has a shit system. Stay classy

[@maxymkalynka4957]

3:50 What does Viktor said?

[@gr4j0m3r]

Why are you talking when I'm serving?

[@warkos3591]

If coaching/lines calling is giving during a rally = Red card (1 pt to opponent) Coach is remove from court level.

[@pikachu8508]

Black card is more appropriate. Players should judge the ball by themselves. Coaching/line calling during a rally is considered cheating and should be punished with disqualification plus lifetime ban for the coach.

[@vickyyadav5723]

Japanese coach is repeated offender i love Japan, Japanese badminton but playing 106 shots nd letting it go is bit unfair. But my Indian coach should next start singing nd dancing😂😂

[@Kulo_WC]

Bollywood Badminton.

[@mln7297]

This particular coach has a history of coaching when he's not suppose to. If BWF doesn't come up with more stringent rules on such incidences he will continue to take his chances. In his mind, he must thinking "Why not"... The most i get is a warning. He's laughing inside!!

[@bruceviv2003]

No coaching during a game like tennis ! Maybe at the end of a game thats it. Any on court coaching mid game is a point penalty

[@KuldeepMishra-cu8cm]

Why though in basketball or football or any other sport Coach can interact with players to what to do

[@rahulshrama94]

Gopichand also 🤦‍♂️🧐😤🤫🤐😪😹😆😂🥱👻 vego just warned him🥴

[@wanshahirwan8041]

Weird with crazy rally that should allow as long no touching on the court and far away on the court

[@promethox4708]

Hi

[@user-jz8zq2jp6q]

Just make your opponent tired and then use this strategy to get the "let"... 😂😂😂

[@Tennis_Siblings]

Very misleading thumbnail. Should have the Japanese coach instead of Rexy on the thumbnail

[@ming4182]

That Japanese coach seems to be a frequent flyer of coaching during a rally, so unprofessional and unfair.

[@miemj.8075]

Should be an automatic point for the opposing team. That’s completely unacceptable!!

[@hilsmoldova9821]

Nakajima not change since the 'TakaMatsu' era. He's too much talking

[@AnhHoang-es1we]

They need to make a rule for players to challenge the umpire because umpires are not always right

[@ErikAdiguno]

Imagine if a coach sings the Bohemian Rhapsody during a match...

[@maisonandco]

Coaches shouldnt even be there during the game. It should be like tennis. It's entirely on the player.

[@Mikekhoh]

Removed the coaches solved the problem

[@siddharthdhulipala24]

I understand Viktor is pissed but he should complain to the umpire. Talking back to opponents coach felt bit rude.

[@abdulrafiuabdulazeez9924]

I think the only thing rude here is the coach talking when he's serving.

[@siddharthdhulipala24]

@@abdulrafiuabdulazeez9924 it was not intentional. I understand the frustration if it were a repeated offence. But while calling out a foul, he himself isn't following the protocol.

[@howto...7185]

​@@siddharthdhulipala24nahh im on viktor side. What if viktor coach did the same? The coach should know better wuen to interrupt when to not. Plus viktor is losing the gake and its normal to get annoyed at very little thing.

[@Ltwentytwo]

then the coach should respect the match and not talk when the players are in the service phase.

[@rambo212234]

players of such couching behavior should be ashamed and must urge their cheating coaches to stop it or not to let them join the match

[@zaki-xl6bk]

nakashima is geniunely fool coach. shame on you nakashima.

[@ergouyu761]

就是这个日本教练，原来是杭州人。我去苏迪曼杯看球，在球员酒店想要找shida要合照，他看见我们在那里聚集，跟我们用中文说，希望你们能有点素质，中国人在外面请要点脸。我感觉当时的气氛几乎像是要打架的感觉了，原来他自己的素质也这么低

[@arjunprasad2143]

Do you really need coaches on the sidelines? Badminton is an individual game and coaches have nothing to do during the game, why would they be allowed to sit near the court and do coaching?

[@user-bo7ml1ok1k]

same reason every other sport has coaches

[@arjunprasad2143]

@@user-bo7ml1ok1k which other sport has coaches sitting beside the court and is not allowed to coach?

[@user-bo7ml1ok1k]

@@arjunprasad2143 Im sorry can you please rephrase. Im not sure I understand your point.

[@laillosidgar]

@@arjunprasad2143 anything that has relative small pitch/court.

[@AkuCintaIslamVideo]

​​@@user-bo7ml1ok1khe is asking you to mention any other sport that has coach or coaches sitting on the coach bench or coach chair but they (the coach) are not allowed to coach from the coach bench or coach chair.

[@sonnychew9921]

That's what you get when you have part-time umpires and part-time referees officiating high performance matches.

[@LambertLee84]

The rules are not so clear, it only says not allowed to coach while in play,

[@hopiuscoliun6746]

when its the chinese its "no malicious intent" lol

[@SyedShoaibMahmood]

Context; The Chinese had a decent lead and were a point away from winning

[@eth4n470]

I really don't think the Chinese coach would be worried about their players wasting 6 match points to the point where he has to coach mid rally, it's obvious he just got a little too excited

[@hopiuscoliun6746]

@@SyedShoaibMahmood I can see that, but if they were so up ahead, there’s no need to be so excited in the first place

[@hopiuscoliun6746]

@@eth4n470 6 points ahead, doesn’t have to be so excited don’t you think? Plus a fault is a fault

[@SyedShoaibMahmood]

@@hopiuscoliun6746 hmmm, also true.

[@calcal9551]

0:45 the referee "I don't want coaching on MY court" who does he think he is ??? My court... It is the court of the players above everything, not is court

[@Naoki-ge5xp]

Seriously? Your bias is incredible. You just had to justify the chinese coach as non malicious didnt you, even though he spoke in between the rally. But you didnt say non malicious or unintentional when it was the indian coach talking to prannoy, even though the point hadnt even started then. Every coach speaks with their player before a point is being played, you can clearly see prannoy getting ready to recieve the shuttle when the coach speaks to him. Axelsen a crybaby in a losing situation couldn't control his emotions.

[@Keepcalm-lovesports]

I think I heard a voice on this channel that is Indian or Pakistani (somewhere in that area of the continent), so I don't think there is Chinese bias. It's just common sense and good observation that there was no bad intent. Maybe get over your hate and accept that for example the Indian coach talking during Axelsens service action is worse.

[@groovegong6778]

@@Keepcalm-lovesportsi mean if it's indian, i see your point. If it's pakistani however... And i agree that indian coach should not do that, but he definitely was biased when bringing up chinese example, whatever that bias comes out of is not important.

[@Naoki-ge5xp]

@@Keepcalm-lovesports You are either blind or just want to peddle the narrative of some kind of hate for some people. Every coach speaks to their player after a point, while the chinese guy "chose" to speak in between the rally and disturb the concentration of players. Indian coach spoke when the point wasn't being played, as every other coach in badminton does. You are just blind or don't want to accept the pure bias in these videos. Grow up

[@Naoki-ge5xp]

@@Keepcalm-lovesports No one could understand your pathetic logic of "speaking to their players before a point is being played as worse than speaking in between the rally like the chinese coach". Grow up and talk sense.

[@Naoki-ge5xp]

@@groovegong6778 Dude. Chinese bias is clear in all the videos. The Indian coach spoke when the point had not started yet and players were only getting ready, as you can see prannoy still moving back and forth. While the chinese coach spoke in betweent the rally being played, but the narrator called it non malicious wtf. What kind of logic is it?

[@shravanrajarajeswaren753]

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