Red dawn death of Robert

I recorded the whole scene because I personally thought the dramatic buildup of the music made this scene 10X better

[@Boygonebad]

Robert didn't give up in this scene. He sacrificed himself so that the others could get away. You can hear him saying at 1:36 "go on. go on." as he goes another direction so that the HIND follow him. That's why he was badass.

[@joeyservo]

Robert went out on his shield like a GODDAMN MAN.

[@joel8583]

Yep!!!

[@Blackjacksarmory]

100% WOLVERINES

[@thatguy22441]

Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ "With your shield or on it."

[@garinshouse]

I got to spend the summer of '09 with C.T. "Tommy" Howell and told him how much We ALL loved that scence!

[@HeadBanger368]

When I saw his death I was mad. He was my favorite of the group, not only did we have the same last name ironicly, but I felt like he was the "Badass" besides Jed.

[@ernestogarcia308]

This was my favorite screen of this movie. Robert goes out like a badass!

[@Grifflaw]

Died fighting to the end.....a hero

[@mlavigne71]

Best "Dying with your Boots on" Death Scene ever in a movie. With the possible exception of "Blaster" in the Movie "Uncommon Valor." But the music and the "Wolverines" Battle-Cry here makes THIS one the BEST !!!!

[@larrybarry4509]

Greatest documentary ever made.

[@ohiyotrippole6645]

*Training Film :)

[@wintersoldier4335]

....in 2022, not so far from impossible hmmmmm 🤔

[@kevinisgone]

Robert is simply a tragic character. He is motivated by revenge and rage, which is ultimately his downfall. He knows the only peace he will find is in death, with his boots on. WOLVERINES! Also, The Outsiders is also good. Stay gold, Ponyboy.

[@gamewizardks]

Stay Golden, my friend.

[@smallvillefan72]

Robert was a bad ass

[@daspenguin4434]

For Amurica

[@MrPelhambay]

Robert was my favorite

[@cyrogyro]

First of all you see in the scene where the trucks drop the food that they are starving. so exposing themselves to daylight was a risk they thought they needed to take. and robert sacrificies himself so the others can get away, and after his horse is killed, he knows that he cannot get away. After they killed his family, he lost his humanity. facing down a chopper with only a machine gun was not stupid, it was just the only option his character would accept. never surrender

[@hopelesslycreating6941]

He died gallant... (I just died a little inside)

[@actisac]

Pawsprincess Those are not "Original" Russian Mi-24A Hinds but French made Aerospatiale 330 Puma Helicopters with Modifications. These choppers were also used in the movie Rambo First Blood Part-2 (In the final scene where Rambo rescues POW's in a Hijacked "Vietnamese" Huey Helicopter and is pursued by Col. Podovsky in his Puma) and in Rambo-3 where Rambo uses it to rescue Afghan POW's (Remember Col. Trautman says to Rambo "Can you fly that thing?" and Rambo replies "Lets find out".) and Colonel Zaysen uses it in Village attack, Spetsnaz deployment in caves and the final Showdown with Rambo near the Afghan-pakistan border.

[@shea251]

even though he didn't play as ponyboy i still felt that ponyboys gold died a little with every character that Thomas plays

[@AJ-ib6hj]

😭😭😭😭

[@Tina-Ma1899]

why the fuck did you have to bring dally up????😭😭😭😭

[@PopperFett]

Of course it's ridiculous. At the same time, it seemed he had no other option. There were three Hinds in the area and chances of escaping a gun run like that were slim to none. He chose to continue to distract the Hinds as much as he could so the others could escape. So, in fact, he sacrificed himself so others may live (a sort of redemption for all the bad stuff he did in the movie).

[@thetruegladiator]

Remake sucks, Never fuck with the original!

[@hkkk1064]

You r brave Robert. R.I.P. Hero

[@richardjohnson4696]

He was never the same after drinking that deer blood. "It's not so bad".

[@Conservative4]

@AwesomeSauce64 Russian Hinds, or whatever helicopter that was supposed to be (didn't look quite right to me), were actually very armored. In operation, they have actually taken all sorts of small arms fire as well as RPG's, shot back, and flown home safely. It took American Stinger missiles sent to Afghanistan to take them down. By the way, favorite clip of any movie ever.

[@1-501Infantry]

Yes but the RPG landed directly inside and detonated in the cabin of the helicopter which there is no armor what so ever

[@noobgaming1415]

He knew it was over so he went guns blazin

[@4583945]

Robert is ultimate picture of badassedry with the beret and facemask

[@DC1030CF]

Hats off to the producers and director! Outstanding job of making the SA-330 Puma look like a Hind A and not dubbing in the sounds of a Huey! This scene makes this movie worth watching in my book...

[@Spookymonz]

That's Gallant.

[@BritanniaPacific]

I’m not gonna say that Robert avenged his father’s death, but I will say this: he avenged his father’s death.

[@pontiacvibe3852]

Memories...Gone...Never Forgotten...

[@Bayliss10]

I thought C. Thomas Howell was the man back then, I was a kid during this era. He was my fav character in this movie and this was my least favorite scene in the film. Also, if this was supposed to be him going out in a blaze of glory, then why did they change the music from triumphant to gloomy the moment he went down? The triumphant music score makes it seem like he's about to get the upper hand.

[@robzilla730]

Bayliss10 well he didn't really. Don't get me wrong. He went out w the BIGGEST BALLS of all of them but the damage he caused was minimal. Not taking away from it in the slightest.

[@LaMiltonTheHoodrat]

he was surrounded and probably wanted to go down looking like a fucking badass (which he did)

[@HeyItzKitKatz]

He dies like a badass. I loved him though even though he shot Darryl Cold-blood.

[@mrboxingfreak]

I have not seen the remake yet. The original was a big part of my life and a huge reason why I joined the military. Robert was my favorite partly when I was a kid cause he was Poneyboy Curtis on the Outsiders. After I saw the movie and saw how he sacrificed himself so that the rest of the Wolverines could survive........that sealed the deal. He was one of my favorite movie characters.

[@FightingRimbaud]

Alice Jones remake sucked. can't believe these kids actually think it comes close to the original!

[@fasteddie2013]

that was a good shot with the rpg from robert. he should have quit while he was ahead

[@actisac]

Those are not "Original" Russian Mi-24A Hinds but French made Aerospatiale 330 Puma Helicopters with Modifications. These choppers were also used in the movie Rambo First Blood Part-2 (In the final scene where Rambo rescues POW's in a Hijacked "Vietnamese" Huey Helicopter and is pursued by Col. Podovsky in his Puma) and in Rambo-3 where Rambo uses it to rescue Afghan POW's (Remember Col. Trautman says to Rambo "Can you fly that thing?" and Rambo replies "Lets find out".) and Colonel Zaysen uses it in Village attack, Spetsnaz deployment in caves and the final Showdown with Rambo near the Afghan-pakistan border.

[@snipersEND]

I knew that this movie used modified french helicopters but I didn't know they were also used in Rambo. Very interesting tidbit of information!

[@actisac]

snipersEND Well now you know.

[@Palora01]

Weirdly enough, the one (there is only one Puma used) in Rambo looks less like Hinds then these ones. These have extra bits on the front to make them look more like the initial Hind variants, the Rambo one only bothered with adding the wings. Although, tbf these might also have been borrowed from the army (along with some modified S-55), which had a few choppers modified to aid in target recognition training.

[@actisac]

Palora That is because of the Obstruction the "Fake Hind Nose" was giving to Puma Pilots and also it didn't allow pilots to properly maneuver the puma chopper. The Rambo 2 Puma had Door Mounted M60 machine gun while Rambo 3 Puma Had nose mounted M134 Gatling Gun and ddor Mounted FN MAG GPMG machine gun. In short the Puma in Rambo 3 was more Heavily Armed than the one in Rambo 2. The Gazelle light attack helicopter in Rambo 3 (Which flew with the Puma) was Mocked to replicate the Ka-50 Black shark Attack helicopter.

[@Palora01]

Astra i figured as much, they did look cumbersome.

[@randyadderson6553]

I love the soc, Darren Dalton/Randy in this movie but I can't believe Ponyboy kills him... payback!!!

[@Wolfen443]

That is a different way to read the end of the scene as more proper rather than the end itself, I agree.

[@davebartosh5]

We won't say that the blue rockets are for training. But Hell yeah ROBERT!

[@Terrorkarel]

@AwesomeSauce64 Not sure, don't know the inner construction of a Mi-24 but it might be possible that cockpit is sealed from the transport compartment.

[@narasil199173]

Realistic if these were HIND Soviet era helicopters. I remember when I was a kid watching this thinking no WAY would a missile not bring down a helicopter...but the Afghani's learned the same hard lessons until the US gave them stinger missiles and won their war for them. That set the stage for 9/11, but that's a different story...

[@anissueofursincerity]

+Clint James I don't think so. The stingers had something in them that expired. No terrorist ever got to use them. And the 9/11 folk grew out of the middle east, not Afghanistan. BinLaden and Zawahiri's only involvement there was to attempt to recruit people to go to middle east to oust the sitting government in Saudi and Egypt. But yer right about the stingers against the Soviet gun ships. I remember seeing the death of Robert, giving his all, then seeing the fleet of gun ships flying over our land I felt such outrage, that that would ever happen. This year we had Russian fighter jets buzzing us off the west coast on July 4. And there were Chiness ships off our Alaskan coast in the 12 mile limit. And now we have Russians themeselve--not just weapons sold---there.

[@snipersEND]

How did I know. I'll be watching it this weekend though

[@snipersEND]

@deadeye382 The entire cast of Red Dawn was very close to the cast of The Outsiders. You could consider this and Grandview, U.S.A. "Reunion" movies

[@kingtigertank72]

@snipersEND your welcome. The tanks, are not tanks, they are built on a tracktor chassis, the turret is fiber glass, im talking about the one in which Aardvark bites it and the AAA in the town. theres a page, i dont remember the adress but shows everything, the AKs, the RPGs, how they made them and from what, all the guns used, grenades, i mean everything.....its .....wiki/Red Dawn. There is something before the /. but try and search for it, its worth it.

[@Voldoslawn]

I've had mixed feelings about that myself. I guess he was tired of running away since he's more like the type to say "F*uk It". I believe he just got tired of all of it and said let do this....here and now. War does missed up things to people.

[@Deathpony9000]

I hated the fact that the RPG didn't blow up the chopper or at least cause it to crash and blow up. Felt it should have, and then have Robert challenge the next one and go out like he did to die protecting the others fleeing.

[@kingtigertank72]

@tommi35777 No my friend its not a Hind, its a Puma, from Aerospatiale, french made. Its just that it was retrofitted to look like a Hind, the early version. Just check out the main landing gear, the Puma has stub wheel wells in which each set protrudes out a bit, maybe 1/3 of the wheel. The Hind A doesnt have it, the whole gear goes into the fuselage and that part is rounded. Same used in Rambo Movies. Another example is from Blue Thunder, its an Aerospatiale Gazelle, modified

[@wintersoldier4335]

Right now, Robert is immortalized via avatar James Yeager...didnt like him but respect him...

[@eoppen]

When I first saw this, I could not BELIEVE that they'd let themselves be seen by daylight. Were they MAD?

[@IndeedItsEmily]

I'm so glad Robert didn't die in the remake(:

[@dtmevolved]

Thumbs up if when the teacher went outside in the beggining you said "Why the hell did he do that"

[@hyena429]

@wartactics I think the writers where thinking of making that a last stand of robert thing...Got too remmeber..He lost all his family....Killed their freind the traitor...Killed alot of people...He tried to kill that chopper...And after he shot the rocket at them...They new he was down there and going to get him....So to make the story end faster...and get his life over with..He takes the hit for the team...How atleast i view it...lol...I too wish he would of hid out and made it..lol

[@Jayrbf13]

I know what you mean.He was my Favourite character. If you also look He hit the HIND on the side with the RPG and a Soviet falls out. I would have had to Grenade hit the Blades bringing the whole fucker down. I never thought Robert should have died.

[@kingtigertank72]

@snipersEND Correction, its an Aersopatiale Puma, just modified, take a look at the explanation a posted on this subject below. Greetings. But great job trying to make it look like a A version.

[@shawnh.2334]

I never understood this scene where Robert dies. Its like he gave up, which wasn't in his personality during the movie. The writers did a bad job with that one. I'd much rather seen him overwhelmed in force if they were bent on him dying. But standing there spraying AK fire at an armored helo wasn't sensible and it looks ridiculous even now. Great movie though, I am just really disappointed in how they handled Robert dying.

[@Terrorkarel]

@AwesomeSauce64 Cause that is one of the toughest attack helicopters ever made.

[@aguynamedscott11]

It’s nice that he put on his Covid mask before opening fire with his AK47.

[@paulgardner5079]

LMMFAO fuck you dude, that comment was GRREAT

[@axel4196]

Rob went out like a G. 💪🏽💪🏽

[@tkhushrenada]

Holy shit, who knew puffs of smoke popping up from the ground could be fatal?

[@narasil199173]

I got to ride in a Soviet HIND helicopter when I was in the Army at Ft. Polk LA. during a JRTC exercise. This was just a few years after the movie Red Dawn came out and we asked both the American and Russian Federation observers if an RPG could take down the helicopter. In both cases the answer was an emphatic "NO CHANCE"....which is why the Americans armed the Afghans with stingers which COULD bring them down....and booyah they won the war....which created other problems, but the reality of Robert not being able to kill a HIND with an RPG is totally on point.

[@Voldoslawn]

They were hungry and aren't real soldiers...but that enough excuse for them. Yea! How in the hell are you going get the food and post up on a boulder not far from where you got the food. Like you said, during daylight. Maybe they thought the horses would blend in with the rocks as they ate and played around. Should have just busted out the football while they were at it. But I like this movie a lot more then the remix they did.

[@tdunphy13]

The Pentagon used to pay $1,000,000.00 a piece for one of those choppers!

[@crazedactor]

It's supposed to be a Hind (Mi-24) in the story, but for the production they used heavily modified French Pumas.

[@LaMiltonTheHoodrat]

best fucking movie ever.

[@diddymuck]

Done for the sake of drama. Time for a heroic death and the kid going down fighting was a moment to remember and a signifier for rugged determination...never mind it not making real sense.

[@potterkid13]

I've always loved the Robert character! Let's hope Josh doesn't ruin it. :)

[@lastswordfighter]

@snipersEND It's actually French Aerospatiale Puma helicopters modified to look like Hinds.

[@HeadBanger368]

I agree. After him see the rocket not blow up the Helicopter, I would imagine him to hide cause he was at a PERFECT! place to hide. But the writers made him shoot it with an AK47 which would do no damage if a rocket launcher didn't do any damage.

[@milescox9732]

Robert gave up, but it’s ok, he couldn’t take it anymore, he went out like a damn American should!

[@garygriggs1244]

What does Robert wear over his face?

[@tommyhunter1817]

Never understood why they wouldn’t just hide in those rocks!

[@AndreiPopescu]

The RPG isn't strong enough to penetrate the armor of the MI-24 "Hind". But here it exploded inside the cockpit and should have killed the pilot not just the gunners, if the pilot's seat is in the same compartment. I haven't seen the interior of the MI-24 A so I am not able to tell. The only MI-24 interior I have seen is that of my MI-24 E scale replica and there is a small opening between the pilot's seat and the passenger compartment. If the real one is like that than the pilot should be dead.

[@williamgregory6129]

Andrei Popescu I watched a documentary on the MI-24 and the pilot and gunner are in armored bathtub if you will that can sustain direct hits. If you watch the scene carefully notice the rpg hits just below the main rotor. If Robert had hit higher up he could've taken out the rotor and that would've brought the chopper down like a rock.

[@RPK74m]

The US Military used those mocked up Pumas in Opfor training before they got their hands on a Hind during the Gulf War.

[@snipersEND]

@kingtigertank72 Very interesting. Thanks for the information.

[@ericou812]

thats a badass helicopter,whats the name of it?

[@carlzson299]

SPOILER ALERT!!! I was upset that the main characters 4 of the 6 main characters died, But they died as heros, And this was a good movie!

[@mgoogleuser8011]

did he die??

[@NCBeautyQueen629]

At least josh didn't die

[@Conservative4]

Thank you for explaining that... I knew they looked a little... off.

[@shawnh.2334]

yep thats ponyboy, I'd much rather have Dallas fighting beside me

[@eoppen]

That would be a tough target to hit---the AK is not exactly a marksman's weapon. And as I understand it, those choppers' cockpits are armored enough to be able to shrug off small arms. What I never understood is how that chopper shrugged off a RPG---those things are designed to take out armored vehicles. Unless the one that got Robert wasn't the one he shot with his RPG. They all look alike, after all.

[@pie4625]

So did he shoot down the helicopter

[@skantchweasel]

Not suggesting that I want to die, but I would like my death to be like that.

[@Teababy]

Standing around in the open like that. What a bunch of amateurs!

[@donnied217]

WOLVERINES FUUCK YEAHHHHHH

[@Screaming-Bees]

Love this movie

[@LegionaryandLaura]

I think I might cry if I see the new one. I hate when they do terrible remakes of already amazing classic movies.

[@snipersEND]

If you remember the scene with "The Hunter" he explains the Wolverines are named after a "small ferocious animal". Is that what the Russians are always screaming?

[@Jurassic0Al]

@chocalatewarriors- Well, I'm sure you'd know, wouldn't you?

[@treadyster123]

NICE

[@DuckCasey]

So romantic.

[@eoppen]

They should NOT have been showing themselves in daylight! That was stupid!

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

There is one thing I don't get, how was the food bait supposed to work.

[@FightingRimbaud]

Shanethefilmmaker there was a bug with GPS in with the food. sort of like when Robert swallowed the big earlier and lead them to the wolverines

[@247orbital]

Wolverines!

[@markveers]

Robert didn't die. Not only were the Soviets a terrible shot, there was no blood splatter. Really. . . from a gun that big?

[@Dolphinbait23]

why are you here?

[@codelz187]

its not cool to hate remakes. just makes you look stubborn.

[@TheNitehawk83]

he did not die in the new one

[@Jurassic0Al]

@UniteTheLeft- Of course they're not, genius. It's not like fucking Soviet Russia was gonna lend us three of their helicopters.

[@ohitsdaniella]

NOT PONYBOY! JESUS CHRIST, COULDN'T THEY HAVE KILLED OFF CHARLIE SHEEN'S CHARACTER IN THAT SCENE?!

[@thesouthrapsucks]

@jigglypiggly we will have our turn kid soon..........

[@asienadam96]

no its tattooed to your hairy chest you have a leather jacket with the flag in one hand a beer on the other and a mullet and handlebars with a pair of aviators.

[@copsondonuts]

movie would get sued these days...

[@KristerAndersson-nc8zo]

Why?

[@KristerAndersson-nc8zo]

barry lax No he did not and after two years I suspect he never will, I am still curious though.

[@copndonuts]

and I just realized our names are similar .......... very similar

[@copsondonuts]

lol

[@copsondonuts]

barry lax cuz the country is filled with snowflakes. the film would be deemed 'sexist' because the women werent given the starring role. cubans were made out to be the 'bad guys', which would be deemed racist. communism you see....is a 'good thing' in the snowflake world view....so these things would have the movie shut down, its directors sued. got it?

[@friendofwinners4057]

Was that a RGP or a Bottle Rocket? shit hit that Copter like a Roman Candle...Na, jus playing. 1 of my favorites Classics ! When are directors going to learn, you can not remake a legendary movie. They should remake the movies that should have been good but were bad. Rewrite those. ..... What about my dad ? Uhh, your Daddy's dead Robert. AVENGE ME BOYS, AVENGE ME !

[@NightTitan575]

according to call fo duty logic.