Red Dot Forum Camera Talk: What Not to Do with Leica

[@artandweightloss]

With Leica M (especially film ones) the most important one was the lesson Brian Duffy taught - never shoot with lens cap on....

[@drbva2]

You guys are amazing educators. Please keep up the good work. Just a suggestion - SD cards are designed to be reused. Having a correct backup system is a more optimal and affordable system of backing up and storing files. Having a back up drive stored in a different building is safe as a fire can’t burn both sources when stored in different locations (i.e bank safety deposit box). Backup the backup every three months and return it to the second safe location seems like a good option. Just a suggestion

[@johndukekisch1111]

(SL2 and Q2 shooter) Thank you both. Always SO informative. I'm confident all of us eagerly await your next streaming. However -and you've even hinted it yourselves- just a little more pre-prep and less banter could cut your showtime by 1/3 and much to the appeal of your listeners (and Jose), IIMHO. Regardless, we're all profiting immensely from RDF so please keep up your fine work.

[@ctmdarkonestm]

i learned the infinity focus thing. for some reason, especially the older lenses, i find actual infinity is usually a smidge to the left of the infinity mark

[@kqschwarz]

Another great episode. I am preparing for a trip and wrote down a bunch of your suggestions for tripod shooting and ordered some lens cloths from Amazon. I will set up a custom function for tripod shooting when I get home incorporating your suggestions and adding manual exposure and manual focusing. Thank you.

[@jessekoskinen]

As a professional cook, I loved the way you expressed the matter at 1:42:30.

[@hanvandewal917]

A great show. The nugget of knowledge to me was defraction avoiding and not use too high apertures like 16. The 'idea to get everything completely correct is from my Canon Fib film days, when you needed to have everything OK. Greetings from Holland. Thank you!!

[@dexterslabmi]

Very good episode… tripod tips, shooting pass f8 and keeping boxes are pure gold. Been searching for CL to purchase and almost every seller so far doesn’t have the box. I have passed on several because of it.

[@jrprophotography5961]

Eyelead sensor cleaning: 1- why using the orange not the blue Eyelead ? 2- Did you have any residue left on sensor ? 3- Have you ever use the Eyelead in high temperature environment ? Thanks Very great show so useful Congrat. guys Keep it running

[@rudigerwolf9626]

David, Just caught up on Saturday’s show. Love those programs. You mentioned that your typical gear is an SL2 and Q2 Monochrome. I am thinking about focusing on the M11 as my main landscape camera. Any pros/cons as to why you are using the SL2 vs the M11 for landscape? Would really appreciate a better understanding of your thought process in selecting the SL2 over the M11. Thanks

[@eatstudysleep]

A note on auto-brightness/night shift - the new MacBooks have built-in editing display profiles (including a photography one!) that tunes the display to a specific color gamut and locks the brightness for a completely repeatable display experience! It's really nice, give it a shot.

[@kevinkazakevich5766]

I am a hobby photographer and I thought this was very educational on how to avoid mistakes and how to create lots of stuff! I have a M6 and some great photos and want to get a digital camera someday.

[@rolandrickphotography]

The best protection of the front element is the lens hood, it also doesn’t sacrifice lens quality, 17:34. If you bump the lens accidentally into something without correctly mounted lens hood, the filter and front element is gone.

[@jjbs58]

Best pert of video - dont blow your highlights . . . Amen brother . . . 1:39:00 - its an entire process - using what your paying for . . .

[@MarcoRyser]

Really enjoyed this one - particularly the SD card part. As for the firmware: I’m still waiting for Leica to fix video recording and exposure compensation on the original Q. 😏

[@RamonBrito]

I really doubt that they will release a firmware update for this. I own the q as well and I have been waiting for the same thing

[@MarcoRyser]

@@RamonBrito Yes, I wish I could be as enthusiastic about Leica and their firmware maintenance policy as or RDF friends. 😄

[@carlosmcse]

I do the same. Backup the card (in the rare case that I took a photo I liked), if not, forget it, but always format and Then go out and take photos. For the M I like Sandisk 128 or 64GB. 170/90MB/s.

[@james-p]

OK, I'm ordering more SD cards now! lol. BTW, Josh, nice meeting you and your red anodized lens at the Leitz Photographica event - (Hey, I recognize that lens! Oh, there's Josh too! lol)

[@jon-nolanacousticsingerson9920]

Could you please prepare a link to the organization and a link to the event? Thank you in advance for your help.

[@wpdoyle]

I love your videos. Any chance you could do time stamps in post? Would make it much easier to find what's most relevant. Thanks!

[@RedDotForum]

We generally add timestamps to our livestreams for this exact reason.

[@MB-or8js]

Thanks for the advice to update firmware - I wasn't aware that the latest firmware for my M-E 240 was released a while ago. Just downloaded and installed it without experiencing issues. Maybe not necessary if no latest Leica M lenses are used with the camera, but it can't hurt either to have the update installed.

[@carlosriveros3039]

great channel, can you do more with the q2, maybe some portrits please

[@kmcsmart]

Great video and tips. My question is how can you be sure that the microfibre cloth in you pocket is clean? Wouldn’t you be better to keep it in a case or bag in your pocket? Does anyone make a nice case for this purpose? Also how do you clean your microfibre cloths. I am always so worried about my cloth being dirty somehow but I live on a horse farm so maybe it’s different for the city slickers. Thanks for all the great advice.

[@y2ktube]

Video @ 49:22 "updating lens firmware" - Forced Updating - Besides aging issues, another reason to stay away from expensive modern electronic lenses etc. This also happens with my DJI drone (I CAN'T fly it until the factory takes control of my equipment !).

[@andrewswann556]

Hi from Auckland, New Zealand...first timer live...

[@richarddenise3886]

Low expectation from the title, but as usual - Really well done!

[@petruskap]

In my Leica Q, I used to cover the speaker / mic with tape to avoid the dust to come in....

[@MoghulVeyron]

Can we do one of these for analogue M cameras? Especially considering all the misinformation on forums etc.

[@jlehrer1890]

We did! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppa9npiKeM-ZhZY

[@Dpul945]

Question re firmware. I just bought a used M10 and the firmware was really old, so I updated to the latest. If there were firmware updates in between the old firmware it had and the one I loaded will those features be loaded or missed?

[@Deetroiter]

I’m a couple of months behind your post, but when you update to the most recent update, it will typically include everything that was introduced between your old and the newest firmware updates.

[@ronitsingh85]

Very curious to watch this one! As always you 3 are great

[@irenedp4947]

thanks for a great show! Re the firmware update (and Josh’s comments about the S2) I happen to have one of those very few left, sensor changed, and can’t find the last firmware version anywhere. Any help would be welcome :-)

[@crissignori7482]

ok all fine and dandy but how about a firmware update for my Leica M3? 🤣😂Another excellent episode. Thanks guys

[@LensEthics]

Can the Elmar 50mm 2.8 (not Elmar-M) be used with the film camera MP? If yes, are there any quirks when mounting and unmounting this lens or other things I should be mindful of or things I cannot do with this lens and camera?

[@bychrisjones]

Omg I live in Colorado Springs and didn’t see this till now lol

[@matte-d349]

1:47:00 David mentions that you can enable/disable only options you want to see on your function buttons on the SL2. HOW do you do this?? My Q2 can do this under "Customize Controls" and it's great, but on my SL2-S I have to scroll through pages and pages of functions I will never assign to a button, and can't for the life of me figure out how to disable them. Thanks!

[@spyhardman]

Just a few days ago, I accidentally deleted all the images on my M11, so I would echo the importance of tip #33!

[@thomasclark631]

Don’t update the camera firmware immediately. Wait to see what other’s experience is. Can you spell CROWDSTRIKE?

[@62smarty]

Great as always! Thanks!

[@ridonp3058]

Would they be able to add highlight weighted metering on the M10R as a firmware update, or is that something thats not possible due to hardware in the camera?

[@fn5954]

Can you use Leica Typ 114 or V Lux 5 as a webcam?

[@dans.8198]

@42:02 I keep the time set to UTC+0, so I do not have to “remember to not forget” setting the correct time zone and daylight-saving nonsense, ever.

[@hokyung888]

38:07 I personally never format my used cards and I never buy cards that have more than 64GB of space. Why? If there is any problem with the portable SSD where the photos are backed up, I can always go back to the original files on the SD cards. Also, 64GB is small enough that I get to swap and back-up cards often. Even if a card gets damaged it is only 64GB worth of data that is lost not 256GB or 512GB worth of data.

[@rolandrickphotography]

🤔🤔🤔 Is that an official Leica recommendation at 31:50? From an engineer’s point of view I honestly doubt that. The chances to destroy you IBIS motors are higher if they are power on and you swipe against it with brute force. E.g. DJI drones instantly pop up a warning on the screen if you accidentally slightly touch the gimbal the drone powered on. Of course the sensor wiggles if powered off. The inside of a camera with IBIS are sensitive parts, cleaning it is like open heart surgery and by common sense it must be done carefully. And never ever touch the shutter blades: some brands offer a firmware option closing the shutter if powered of to prevent dust on sensor when changing lenses, it is not a sensor protection. The sensor itself is far less sensitive as the shutter blades are.

[@thomastuorto9929]

So, what is the difference between deleting & formatting in camera. I choose my keepers & upload them on the computer. With the photos still on the card, I format in camera. So far so good. Is this the best way for it to be done? Thanks for any replies. PS; Not a Leica owner.

[@RedDotForum]

By deleting in-camera, we are referring to deleting single images during playback, not formatting the card to erase everything. By only transferring your "keepers" to your computer and deleting the rest, you might be missing out on some hidden gems. Every so often, we'll go back through images in Lightroom that weren't starred or edited and discover that we missed some really excellent shots. At the time, some of these might be less obvious to spot, so by transferring everything you give yourself the opportunity for further discovery later.

[@thomastuorto9929]

@@RedDotForum Thanks. I use to keep them all & what your are saying is so true. I shoot a lot of wildlife & come home with out of focus photos. They get deleted. Thank you for replying,Happy Easter & as always, enjoyed the RDF!

[@MrKILLIANSMITH]

You know, much as I love Leica products ... I do think that the M Cameras should have "built-in" diopter adjustment at this stage of proceedings ... I think its a bit "mean" to ask another £170.00 for a diopter correction lens after paying £7,500.00 for the camera body ...

[@blakeaghili4681]

Lol the unlocking of tripod happens to me with 4x5 Sinar

[@Muaythaiking]

Anyone knows why they stop KZbin video production?

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

I'm probably more controversial, I never do post-production. 🤣 The jpeg out of the camera is the finished product.

[@ferjeouichaker]

Well worth the money, grwat product

[@ronaldmoravec2692]

A dear friend who had a wedding photog business employing six other photogs whom he trained. he did a wedding late 50`s or 60`s. Yes he did an entire wedding with a 50mm collapsed. SUPER EMBARRASSING.

[@cfagil]

I guess Leica may put filter threads on their binoculars if there is enough demand from the UV filter loving users.

[@robcowle7288]

I have found the ISO above 800 very disappointing as being noisy. I know of others who have made this comment. I've bought this to Leica's attention but they say it is normal. Have you found this to be?

[@GillesQuennevilleGQ]

You need to use an external portable ssd hard disk drive to save your files that i always keep in my bag. Dont save your SD cards. This is stupid and way too much expensive.

[@healthid]

I'm sorry, but I still think the box think is kinda dumb. Sure it's nice, but $200 for cardboard? It's embarrassing.

[@Jupiter4Alphs]

Leica CL is dead. It appears. I realy wanted that one ... It's the smallest. Those S CCD camera's are also failing. Motorproblems. M9 ... It's almost like planned. Al the old models die, get forgotten. Lucky the body's are so cheap ... When you buy a Leica camera you buy a dead camera. Firmware don't cancel CL and T. Would be funny if you needed to pay for the better firmware to. Haha "free firmware" wow.

[@sl11tenderhand]

Good show, however, I wish these dudes would stop interrupting each other. The constant cutting across each others points is very jarring.

[@GillesQuennevilleGQ]

Please relax on the right side of my screen. You just speak too fast . Communication 101.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

Nice video guys but I want to make a note about firmware. An update is NOT INTENT to give you FREE FEATURES. It is to address bugs, shortcomings and solve errors With many years of Beta testing behind me (and problem solving in released software for computer and IT equipment) the general (so most of the time) life cycle of software releases are , Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Stable Release and RTM (release to manufacturing or often called ready to market) and the the official release. Since marketing often announces a release date it often happens that the firmware (software) is not completely ready. Then they decide what can wait till the first update so the camera or application in general, is stable to use. So they buy time to fix it and wait for users input, cause MENTIONING that a camera is not released on the announce date because of software problems is NOT GOOD MARKETING.

[@RedDotForum]

When Leica releases firmware years after the introduction of the camera and rolls out new features, that is exactly their intent. We're very familiar with the typical alpha/beta/RC/RTM cycle as we've also been involved with camera testing for many years. And yes, often firmware updates do address bugs or glitches. Sometimes they are to roll out features that weren't quite ready at launch. But other times, they introduce features, improved AF algorithms, additional file compression options, or updated UI elements.