Red Faction Guerrilla on Switch: Handheld Destruction Like Nothing Else On The System

[@pobbityboppity1110]

Digital Foundry videos like this are John and Alex in a buddy cop show, figuring out who killed the framerate.

[@gabrieloliveiralima3772]

this

[@rahnyc4]

I'm a PC gamer and i own a Switch but i seriously love when they do videos on the Switch. its normally instant click for me.

[@Nava9380]

@XBOXRULES but not everyone is a PC-Gamer.

[@nocfox3050]

@Sr DeSilva Switch games analysis are pretty much the most at entertaining and a lot of the times, impressive..

[@nocfox3050]

@Darth Wheezius Especially when developers actually take their time and work on getting the game to run properly on what's available to them..

[@nocfox3050]

@XBOXRULES It's simply entertaining to watch these analysis videos.. Especially when it's about the Switch.. And a lot of the time, it's impressive by how a lot of the games run on it..

[@nocfox3050]

@XBOXRULES You worded that really weird.. But anyway, those comparisons aren't really viable to each other.. Because people don't mind the sacrifices on the Switch if it means that tgey can play it portably.. There are people who are excited for The Witcher 3 on Switch.. Which obviously will have cutbacks but that's not a huge deal to some people..

[@averytucker790]

We need less battle royal games and more destruction based games.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Avery Tucker True but then wouldn’t that be more of the same over and over again

[@JosephGrutt]

And based on this comment alone, they release a Red Faction based total terrain destruction based battle royal game.

[@diegofuentes425]

Fortnite have destruction (^:

[@JosephGrutt]

@@Lolkork I think it's just a matter of saturation. There are so many of these kinds of games coming out at the same time that people get frustrated.

[@apacheY2K]

I want more br

[@wixxzblu]

To be fair, the PC version dropped from ~250fps to just ~100 when explosions occur. Dont get me wrong tho, its not a bash at PC, but more a hint at howy demanding and/or unoptimized the game is when physics comes into play.

[@nicolasmartinez4337]

Dude that’s terrible, borderline unplayable, heres to hoping they fix that

[@kryskarr23]

Frame rate drops are to be expected when the physics engine has to do its thing.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Unoptimized?! This game modeled collapsing skyscrapers complete with structural stress in 2008 on a fucking 360. Physics simulation high end PCs of today sometimes struggle with. This game is perhaps the best optimized piece of software since the early nineties.

[@Jedebiah]

@@nicolasmartinez4337 borderline unplayable.......? you can play games wih 25 fps... most pal releases of old games are capped to that... and it looks fine... 100 fps is WAY? more than enough

[@poy110]

@@Jedebiah a drop from 250 to 100 would feel terrible though

[@NecromancerAdr]

I want Black Remastered. Who's with me?

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Yep.

[@NecromancerAdr]

@@blitzwing1 it's overall a good game. They would need to add a couple of more missions and maybe multiplayer, and it would be great.

[@godsmark6350]

There is a X-Box One Version to download with higher Resolution.

[@NecromancerAdr]

@@godsmark6350 yeah but that's not a remaster. I'd like to see multiplayer added to it.

[@gabrieleriva651]

Nick Motsarsky you can play it in 1920p on Xbox One.

[@bombjack1984]

This looks ands runs great on the Switch in portable mode (quality setting), I'm really happy with it.

[@GameMasterpg]

I gonna say thanks to Switch, DigitalFoundry has to review the games they skipped.

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Analyze* These are not reviews.

[@SoukaDeezNutz]

*analyze

[@Jaqen-HGhar]

Yeah only cause Nintendo backed that truck of cash up to their back door.

[@eeehmmwhat2406]

If they can put The Witcher and LA Noire on the Switch, how about the Arkham games

[@MrMentalSoul]

I totally agree. I'd also love to see all of the Bioshock games, and maybe some of the older Metal Gear Solid titles (i.e. Sons of Liberty, Snake Eater, etc).

[@bigt4135]

They are coming

[@monocore]

- "Wich setting do you prefer, wich one is more stable?" - Yes

[@alexanderbattaglia6048]

lol

[@SM-nc1nb]

He said multiple times that he preferred quality mode on portable.

[@birdman4birdlegs]

Far cry 3 on the switch would be so sweet!

[@Clay3613]

It would never run.

[@Drilbit]

@@Clay3613 it's a ps3 game, it could easily run on it

[@n8tivet3ch96]

@@Clay3613 and the switch is getting the Witcher 3 soooo.... 🤔

[@Clay3613]

@@n8tivet3ch96 A very cutdown version.

[@WH250398]

I don't think it would be that great on the switch. The ps3 and 360 strugled with it.

[@TheErnieforss]

ReMarstered has to be the best name in gaming ever. Because it makes all the reviews eye roll. I love it. It's such a dad joke.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Destruction without the so called POWAAAAAAAAAH OF DA CLOUD No excuses this game was lit back in the days. If only Just Cause was like this

[@RicardoRiSkAmaro17]

It might lose in physics but wins in everything else.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Ricardo Amaro What Just Cause?

[@RicardoRiSkAmaro17]

@@dialmightyspartangod6717 Yup

[@realgamergirl4638]

Mercenaries is pretty much Destructive Just Cause.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Rey Yup

[@Xx_m1k3_0X1onG_xX]

I think Alex should celebrate being full time by doing a full video in german

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

cyber burner Oh god no

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Please no. His voice is already cringy enough.

[@WH250398]

*DER FRÄMRÄT IST VERDAMMT GEIL!!!*

[@Jpfire19]

I have to say this about the Nintendo switch. Considering how small it is and that it’s a portable console. It’s impressive that it can run current games even with sacrifices.

[@anis6800]

This game isnt current. The game is almost 10 years old lmao

[@nickramos5614]

Its not dumbass its a last gen game that cameout a decade ago

[@kreempa.i.8349]

It comes down to engine optimization and scalability. Look at Doom, it runs pretty well on the switch, while keeping all the original graphical effects like bloom, depth of field, AO, etc. But a game like fallout 76 probably wouldn't run unless the graphics look like Pubg mobile.

[@Jpfire19]

# I’m the dumbass yet you can’t read the comment right above that explains that I was talking about games as a whole. Not this one. I use to own this game back in the day. I am well aware that it came out on the 360.

[@assvibes3866]

just keep re releasing xbox 360 classics on the switch. I want MW2 on there.

[@diggleda2952]

Ass Vibes YES

[@lorenamondragon5693]

YEah Alex! Woot! Congrats on the position.

[@firisrozley5768]

This game would have been benefitted with an overclocked Switch just for docked quality mode.

[@darkridearts]

Been having a blast with this on Switch

[@HidingAllTheWay]

"Space asho-o-o-ole, in a truck, flying off a ridge Space asho-o-o-ole, smashing through a bridge..."

[@KPWSinister1]

Can't wait for John's sighs of the Darksiders 2 release for Switch. The "Deathinitive" edition.

[@karehaqt]

It's rare to see a Nintendo Switch port on Digital Foundry.

[@Xyos212]

Would you guys be able to maybe interview some of the devs who created this game? How did they do destruction like this back then? Why does nothing come close to it now? Amazing tech.

[@floatinggoose9197]

There's just not another game on the switch right now that can handle environmental destruction. I'm not sure I understand the context of your question, Battlefield V exists and it runs in 4k, 60 frames, and you can destroy almost any building in a tank. Just cause 4 is 10 times better than gorilla Red Faction, and it's a current generation game. The switch Hardware just sucks

[@liamosullivan6580]

@@floatinggoose9197 the destruction in those games isn't nearly as granular or as widely useable as Guerrilla was. The only games that match Guerilla's destruction on a design level are RF Armageddon and Crackdown 3's multiplayer

[@floatinggoose9197]

@@liamosullivan6580 Crackdown also sucks

[@liamosullivan6580]

@@floatinggoose9197 this is also true, lmao

[@pc_screen5478]

Minecraft exists lol

[@Sabbalab92]

LICHDOM BATTLEMAGE! Man, it's good to hear that again.

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Round up Resolution/frame rate (QM: quality mode) Switch (QM Undocked): 576p Up to 720p 30fps (Docked): 792p- 900p 30fps increased detail (Performance mode Undocked/Docked): up to 60fps PS4 Pro (QM): Native 4K awful frame rate down to 13fps during explosions, 22-30fps else-wise. (Performance mode): 1440p 52-60fps can drop to 44 like X version during explosions but shoots back up to 60 like Xbox One X Xbox One X (QM): Native 4K 30fps (Performance mode): 1800p 60fps drops to 52 during explosions but shoots back up to 60fps

[@dexthegamer3234]

You forgot to mention the frame drops in the switch version

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Dex the gamer No I didn’t, I didn’t mention it on purpose

[@kevboard]

uhm... the PS4pro performance mode at 1440p runs at 45fps when anything happens. I think you mixed it up with the 1080p Performance mode

[@dialmightyspartangod6717]

Kevboard Arts Uh there is no 1080p mode in this video and it drops to 45 when things happens it doesn’t run there. Stop it

[@dexthegamer3234]

@@dialmightyspartangod6717 the bias for switch tho

[@ZeusTheIrritable]

I love the DF guys because while they obviously love the awesome performance of high-end PCs, they are never insulting or condescending when talking about consoles. That is an irritating quality that so many 'PC Gaming Master Race' jerks have, and I'm happy that DF never goes down that road in their videos.

[@scissortongue5772]

That PS4 Pro performance is terrible.

[@theunbearablejuan]

Something went very, very wrong there.

[@baltoderpfish9471]

yeah horribly wrong 1:15 I thought it was the Switch gameplay till I looked up......

[@Clay3613]

Probably the wrong build got released.

[@mukuroikusaba7347]

@@Clay3613 lmao no dude.

[@Faithful-Preservation]

They aimed way too high with the resolution for what the PS4 Pro can do.

[@redbeardnj]

Just got this on Switch for 8 bucks and wow im impressed. Its probably been patched since this video because it runs pretty good

[@SHGames97]

I’ve noticed a similar thing with a lot of Switch games, either they get patched or maybe portable mode covers up a lot

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

Destructible? Red Faction Armageddon...one of my favourite games of all time on the 360 that bombed on reviews.

[@realgamergirl4638]

That game is pretty much underrated by this point. Even TB liked it.

[@JayJapanB]

Awesome game. I hope a new red faction comes out someday.

[@monkaWGiga]

God the rainbow unicorn and nano machine gun were the best.

[@monkaWGiga]

@@JayJapanB I hope so. The fact they made a remaster of guerrilla gives me hope they're going to bring the series back in some capacity.

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

I believe the development team spent a total of 220 million on Armageddon; however, since it was more against aliens than creatures instead of humans it bombed. I have not found a game to date being as destructible or repairable...also the weapons such as Mr. Toots was absolutely unique...

[@MatrixPavarotti]

"ReMarstered"... In the words of the T-1000, "I know this hurts".

[@BIGNOIDS]

My first game on the Xbox 360, such great fun to play.

[@pegasusdrive12]

Honest question, did you notice the frame rate drops then? I feel like I have played a lot of old games with terrible performance which I have seen to completely forgotten.

[@BIGNOIDS]

@@pegasusdrive12 It had it's moments, like when bringing down multiple or large structures, overall though I think it held up pretty well.

[@SuperFriendBFG]

I hope they tune the performance on "Quality Mode" on Docked a bit to get it closer to holding 30. Either that or open up the Graphics Options, letting players create their own Performance Profiles my mixing and adjusting FX quality. Like you guys said, allowing Quality Mode with certain Performance Based features.

[@Timo8.2.]

I don’t get people who overhype the difference between 1080p and 4K or 30fps and higher FPS. I was disappointed when I first played a game at 1440p and then 4k because the difference really isn’t that mind blowing. Now playing in higher frame rates is better but again it’s not mind blowing. Same thing with hdr. So please stop the overhyping and to people who play at 1080p, you’re not missing out that much.

[@damienkrawczuk1435]

I Total Recalled this baby for 3 flipping bucks! You can't get cheaper than that! Dang man it's a hole bunch of hammer whacking fun, great tech review guys, oh what a find I found this for, cheerio guys 👍😎

[@angelserrano9049]

Just got mine👍🏼👍🏼

[@Loundsify]

I paid £1.79

[@angelserrano9049]

@@Loundsify gold points?

[@damienkrawczuk1435]

@@Loundsify I'm trying to figure it out, a pound in Australian dollars is roughly 0.52 but either way I love a good sale, games a riot fun I love it

[@drumpunk41]

Dude, I did too and it's the best 3 bucks ever. Such a steal. This game is loads of fun.

[@BWV88]

Got it for 3 bucks on the eshop about a week ago. . I played it years ago on the 360 and it's pretty cool to have it on the go now. . . I'm enjoying it on my switch lite and for 3 dollars. . . . money well spent.

[@ChrisWTube]

12:36 Just booted this up on SeriesX in performance mode, it’s so smooth.

[@supertrendymoneymaker0722]

Can’t wait to try this on the PS5 that will fix the problems PS4 Pro version had.

[@ahmedp800]

I feel spoiled with how many videos Digital Foundry is releasing... And I love it!

[@elproducto78]

Switch is a beast, I didn't think it would be as capable as what it is....its a handheld, crazy.

[@elproducto78]

@Mr. NoName Less powerful than a 360 is laughable...and you're missing the main point of it being a handheld

[@Jun123]

So ... Performance while docked is the way to go for me. Cool.

[@SiGeTVee]

I have the Steam/"ReMARStered" edition already for my PC, but now I think I'll get it on Switch as well. The game is just THAT MUCH FUN to play that I'll play it on my bed.

[@pbzwriter]

Just wanted to say congrats to Alex! Good to see you on this team full time! Appreciate the work you and everyone else on the team puts in for us!

[@IrrationalCharm]

I love the way you say PROUDLY.

[@KingfishWatch]

I like how Switch Performance mode looks pretty much just like pc vanilla version of this game

[@aL3891_]

glad to hear Alex joined full time :)

[@stefandrakche]

i would love to play mgsv on switch

[@ChrisWTube]

Stefan DrakChe Switch really should have Twin Snakes, 2HD, 3HD, Peace Walker HD and 5 as these are all last gen games at least. I wish there were remasters of 4 and both versions of 1 for the other systems too.

[@madfinntech]

Finally, console and PC versions in the same video, as they should be.

[@Pokedude1013]

congratulations Alex!!

[@RoboJean1994]

I didn't even knew this was releasing on the Switch

[@WednesdayMan]

what happened to the PS4 Pro version!? This is a Remarster of a 360 game but it runs worse!

[@calebb7012]

It's a massive shame this game's multiplayer on Switch is dead.

[@riaz8783]

Someone needs to build DF a tool that can estimate the resolution just by putting a video through it. It must be hard work having to pixel count so many versions of the game across multiple graphical profiles with dynamic resolution.

[@pleasuretokill]

HEY DEVS! Here are some guidelines for graphics options on console that would exist if I wrote the rules on this subject ......which, sadly, I realize I don't :-( 1) NO UNCAPPED FRAMERATES. EVER. Never, ever ever. 2) You have 2 modes... 30fps locked and 60fps locked. 3) Your "quality" mode should be highest resolution that allows you to play the game LOCKED at 30fps. No dips, at all, whatsoever. You wanted 4k, but, it drops to 20fps in certain areas? Too bad. Drop the res to 1800p. and keep going until you see a locked, never budging, 30fps. 4) Your "performance" mode should be a locked OR variable resolution that LOCKS the framerate at 60fps, SOLID. No dips, at all whatsoever. You wanted 1440p, but the framerate dips to 45-50fps in this mode? Too bad. Drop it to 1260p or 1080p or even 900p (or 240p if you are on the terrible Switch...) if you have to in those areas. Imo. Framerate lock to 30fps or 60fps in these modes should ALWAYS be paramount and should always take precedent over resolution or graphics options every single time. No exceptions.

[@bombjack1984]

But this game is CPU bound, so could never hit 60fps on Switch regardless of resolution. For most games though your points make sense, Darksiders would be a good example.

[@Skullkan6]

Yeah this is the problem with any pc game where the cpu does more work than normal. People think Arma runs like ass because there are games that look better and run better meanwhile Arma is running full physics simulations of every single bullet fired, or the momentum of a car. Guerrilla is running full building simulations of buildings where they're running different building materials with different toughness to explosives, blunt force, including the effects of gravity, taking down supports and having each of those building pieces fly off and break with full physics, particles and dust effects. And if you pay attention, it optimizes the HELL out of it. Everything it doesn't have to render disappears, but at the same time EVERY impact or bit of damage to the environment is saves when you return barring missions. All of this was happening on the 360 and now on the switch. THAT is more impressive than any skin shine tech demo

[@KizaruB]

Better than Crackdown 3

[@MassivePaper]

Hahaha I could not stop laughing when the Lichtom battle mage was dropped. Epic stuff guys!

[@METR0lD]

You have now set my expectations for a re-mars-tered version of this video in the future. Don't let me down!

[@silenttrekkie8076]

The PC version is really well optimised, my i5-3550 and RX 570 nearly reaches that 250 fps limit

[@ItsameMatt]

Just picked this up for $2.99 on Switch, and even quality mode looks horrendous on my 4K TV. Performance obviously is even worse. I'm having a hard time playing it.

[@manuel9219]

0:48 that heads up earned you a like

[@MisterDrumsNoob]

I really enjoy your content, guys! Keep it up!

[@BokuPower]

This runs very well now on PS5. Performance mode doesn't seem to drop whatsoever. Quality mode still looks weird. I'm not sure why 30fps looks so jarring in this game.

[@RickGrimes97]

I just got it for $6 and I wanted to see how performance was. This is the only video I could find and I was immediately discouraged by the ps4 pro frame rate, even though I’m on PS5 now. I haven’t tried it yet but I’m glad you’re saying it runs significantly better. 🙏

[@wickedcaitsith]

"Re, *sigh*, MARStered"

[@Pedro_The_Neco]

You hate the pun, it makes me wanna buy the game just because of it. :P

[@diggleda2952]

If they add this to the switch I will buy the switch

[@jeffkgregg]

This video is super informative and well done. Thanks

[@bbatbileg]

Weclome, Alex "Woofenshtain" Battaglia

[@floatinggoose9197]

60 likes in 6 minutes. That's one sign people love you

[@aaroncuckstain9845]

damn thought my video was 360p nope just switch game-play.

[@Dragonfury3000]

One of the last great open world games to date

[@Elknkam]

The Switch just isn't worth the money until they get a better version. I will wait till the switch 3 comes out.

[@matthewcassar1395]

I doubt it's going to be a huge boost. Probably just a minor uprgade, and don't expect a 4k dock.

[@Gamescrap]

Such a GOOD GAME.

[@DenkyManner]

Should have ditched the two modes and just made the best looking capped mode that is generally 30. Seems like they didn't think it through much.

[@Snotnarok]

@Serhat Torbali Agreed, I don't know why I keep seeing people insist on no options, just make this really pretty game that runs poorly.

[@k1ngk4gl3]

Time to set the resolution to portable mode & boost the CPU & GPU clocks. Would _love_ to see a DF vid about that.

[@Theottselmaster]

On ps4 pro I have NO VIDEO options aside from gamma wtf??

[@RichardLarge88]

Congrats, Alex!

[@HiCZoK]

I think Ive found my golden ratio on pc. I run most games at 4k or 1800p (on 4k monitor) for bestgraphics and rtss cap at 58. The monitor is 40-60hz freesync, so capping global fps to 58 does miracles

[@davidlewis1787]

Those coloured explosions are VERY reminiscent of Blast Corps... Getting a big rare vibe

[@manandsofa5265]

That intro music made me think it was final countdown....wish it was.

[@miked5444]

13:14 what character doubling craziness is happening here?

[@cuttyzonthebeat9634]

Congrats to Alex on the new job

[@lucaspereirahmj]

So, in docked performance mode and in portable quality mode

[@KaSH_43]

Both

[@METR0lD]

Congrats Alex!

[@postscriptum8142]

Still the best looking destruction in gaming. More games need that and better AI.

[@Clay3613]

Bad Company 2.

[@postscriptum8142]

@@Clay3613 Bad Company 2 compared with this, are you joking?

[@stolenname94]

@@postscriptum8142 ummmm yeah your just looking at it on the surface. Open world or not red faction is linier as fuck with hardly any ai large open spaces with nothing in them and just buildings to blow up and a few vehicles. Now bad company 2 on the other hand is online huge maps tons of vehicles destruction and 64 players I think that makes up for the destruction not being as polished don't you???

[@piewars12345]

I remember playing the multiplayer with friends on 360...we just spent every match knocking down buildings

[@Jaqen-HGhar]

Oooh are Digital Foundry gonna make excuses for 360p gaming "because it's portable" in this one? Get resolutions worse than last gen on the go!

[@Robert-nl3fd]

Yup !! They've already damage controlled Witcher 3

[@dannypham326]

The fact you can possibly play this with you on Mars is a big leap for mankind.

[@Leesin6767]

Where is Tom?

[@luizarthurbrito]

Why wasn't Alex full time?

[@dalton2k538]

Sooo, can't wait to see how Just Cause 4 would run on Switch then!

[@JimvsBob]

I only ever visit Digital Foundry to find out if a game is V Synced or not.

[@VladimirQueen]

Mega cool, but need a Red Faction Armageddon - because no wretched, monotonous open world

[@BioClone]

armageddon is garbage and the last the franchise fans wants... even go back to FPS would be better seen

[@frankjohansen3132]

This just shows how weak CPUs have made every major gaming company go for scripted corridor shooters.

[@bombjack1984]

Sad but true, this is still a very ambitious game 10 years after release. I guess Just Cause 3 tried to push things further, but that ran horribly. Maybe next generation?

[@davidhazuki]

Welcome, Alex!

[@jenesuispasbavard]

Xbox One X continues to impress, even in a Switch video.

[@pjs232]

Nice bait mate

[@Dookie69uk]

Destructible environments on a handheld device, deary deary me crackdown 3 you should be ashamed.

[@stolenname94]

Linier game so not that big a deal

[@KaizAmari]

James Somogyi wtf are u drunk ? Red faction is open world

[@stolenname94]

@@KaizAmari my bad I just don't remember it being all that much of an open world I remember it being pretty linier with alot of open spaces and some shit to blow up. Put it on the scale of crackdown 3 and this game would chug there is a reason red fraction can have this destruction there just isn't alot of ai or anything really to do apart from spam grenades crackdown 3 although not as ambitious as there first cloud engine *they lost the team who made it for the gameplay demo and that's why it's not as fleshed out* is night and day we are talking about leveling entire bridges and skyscrapers with a world full of ai and vehicles it's so much more ambitious.

[@aleksmeister92]

So Ps4pro cam barely hit 1080p60 on a ps3 game

[@aleksmeister92]

@Ioannis Stf hey buddy what's your iq? I'm trying to figure out if this kind of video game nerdiness correlates with iq. I'm serious:))

[@aleksmeister92]

@Ioannis Stf your iq fam. What is it?

[@ZombiePanda402]

Open world shooters just make me wish that GTA V was on the Switch

[@innebateav]

Surely GTAV isn’t unrealistic on Switch. Or even Red Dead Redemption 1.

[@Starfals]

Fun fact, i always turn off shadows or the ambient option off. HUGE boost to FPS, and even if it makes the game look more realistic and less fake.. well 60 fps is a must.

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Uh, real world has shadows. Turning those off in-game makes everything look fake as hell..

[@Skyr1mMage]

LICHDOM BATTLEMAGE returns

[@marcimousie]

Considering portability is usually the reason why you’d pick the switch over the pro etc it’s good to know quality handheld comes out good :)

[@MadJackChurchill1312]

JOHN VIDEO!!! YUUUUUUUUSSSSS

[@rocketman4315]

Welcome to the team, Alex!