RED SONJA: After years of development hell, producers try something ... different.

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Midnight's Edge

Midnight's Edge

Күн бұрын

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@Ljordan093
@Ljordan093 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever it’s Conan or Red Sonja, Andre’s Hyborian love kicks in.
@johnedgar7956
@johnedgar7956 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and rightly so. 🙂 I love it too, but modern Hollywood will never fulfill it for us.
@jamesritter1113
@jamesritter1113 3 жыл бұрын
I keep whacking the San Andreas but nothing keeps happening
@anticorruptionagenda5106
@anticorruptionagenda5106 3 жыл бұрын
It will never been as sexy and gory as the comics are , too much c*ck blockers!
@chihiromononoke9381
@chihiromononoke9381 3 жыл бұрын
I love Red Sonja, but I wish Rodriguez would have made this movie. I have less than zero interest in trans feminist barbian movies. Red Sonja needs to be an exploitation movie. Bella Thorne should be Red Sonja. She looks amazing in bikinis, and she is cool with being hot. She was born to play this character.
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
@@chihiromononoke9381 Yes, Bella or Elena Satine. Unfortunately none of them will wear Red Sonja's chain mail bikini-they cast Hannah John Kamen, a black actress, to play Sonja.
@guys72ss1
@guys72ss1 3 жыл бұрын
The movie is going to be about Red Soy ya. Can't wait for this bomb to go off.
@RolandDeschainee
@RolandDeschainee 3 жыл бұрын
So sick and tired of "movies that have to make a statement" just make a good frigging movie I need escapism not moral messages that the twitter folks decide must be in a movie they most likely wont go see anyhow
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 3 жыл бұрын
And that statement usually says: "Movies that try to make a statement are terrible, fail miserably and lose tens of millions of dollars."
@johnathangrey2003
@johnathangrey2003 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I love Red Sonja, Chainmail Bikini and all. Contrary to popular opinion, there are reasons for it. It aids in agility, acts as a distraction, and she specifically requested it herself when receiving her blessing from that Goddess, so that everyone she battles will know she’s a woman. A positive, personal expression of her femininity and an illustration of how formidable she is to be able to fight effectively wearing so little armour. They are undoubtably going to ruin it. I love Bad Girl comics as a whole like Warrior Nun Areala (Hate that insulting wokeflix adaption), Hack/Slash, Witchblade, Lady Death, Darkchylde, Vampirella, Zenescope’s Grimm Fairy Tales, Sheena, and Jungle Fantasy. It’s a disappointment that well written franchises & their fans never get the respect they deserve nowadays. I’m sick and tired of empty megalomanic statement after statement, the constant flood of tyrannical toxicity, and simply, the complete and utter lack of anything genuinely good. If it is, it’s an exception that proves the moronic rule of today’s amorality. I just want something that’s interesting, entertaining, and in some way fun. I miss the days when making a good story was the goal. No matter how much money they keep losing, they keep doubling down. They keep trying to appeal to a niche that doesn’t support them and constantly antagonizes people. It’s ridiculous.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnathangrey2003 I'm hearing there's a Darkchylde movie in the works, but no date on whether it will still be made, or when it will be available. Personally, I'd like to see a Witchblade movie, since we got a TV series originally, which told me enough to get me hooked on the character, even if the series was axed WAY before its time. I've also followed the comics on and off, and I'd love to see The Darkness also getting some love as well as a movie, considering the unique curse that wielders of The Darkness have, and the shared history that both Witchblade and The Darkness have with each other. It could be the next Buffy/Angel type crossover event, but I doubt anyone these days could do it justice. For it to be anything remotely decent, you'd have to get someone like Robert Rodriguez or Guillermo Del Toro to do it justice on the big screen. I'd love to see what an indie film crew and unknown acting talent could do with it, though, especially in web series format. If we can get anything close to the modern-world Mortal Kombat web series, but just in other properties, man, just think about the awesome films and series we can possibly get. :/
@johnathangrey2003
@johnathangrey2003 3 жыл бұрын
@Marinus van Zyl Yeah there’s been rumours about Darkchylde for years. As far as I’m aware, the last official progress was 11 years ago in 2010 when they released test footage, and announced John Carpenter would be directing the movie that’d hopefully be released in the following year. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWS9qXusnLuLr5o Which sadly didn’t happen, and nothing has happened since. I don’t trust anyone these days to do the comics justice either, or anything for that matter. Agreed on the Witchblade show getting axed before it’s time and the Darkness deserving some love. You’re right about the unique curse & connection the two have, with the Darkness the father and the Angelus the mother of the Witchblade. But, instead of live action, I’d personally prefer a series of r-rated animated shows and movies close to the original original source material with the same beautiful art style. Animation has a more feasible transfer of designs, and there’s a greater potential for what’s physically possible. That way we could have a situation like Buffy/Angel where there’s a shared universe of Witchblade, Darkness, Angelus, Magdalena, Darkchylde, Lady Death, Vampirella, Red Sonja, Tomb Raider, and everything else all crossing over with each other. Exactly like their comics. That all being said, I love seeing passionate & creative indie crews & unknown actors, especially in a web series format. I haven’t seen Mortal Kombat, but I really enjoy the work from Bat In The Sun. Particularly, their Joker & Harley Quinn vs Deadpool & Domino episode of Super Power Beatdown and their recent short film Batman: Dying is Easy. Amy Johnston as Harley Quinn and Kevin Porter as Batman are phenomenal. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKPYpZJjjsx9j9k m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWHbkIygoMx5oMU It’d be incredible if we could see more of that in other properties.
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to "make a statement" while making a movie, I'd have the villains be SJWs who die violently in a fight they started themselves.
@johnedgar7956
@johnedgar7956 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Andre, I know you're looking forward to a decent Red Sonja film (one that the fans & the character herself deserve) but this looks like it'll be just another "woke" disaster.
@vicentesantiago2681
@vicentesantiago2681 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 there was a lot of money to be made with star wars ... with The Terminator ... there is still a lot of money to be made with tolkien ... and no studio is really trying to make money these days, they are trying to earn credits from the twiter.
@mmitchellhouston
@mmitchellhouston 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Those writers will spell doom for the movie.
@asisin2
@asisin2 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 i dont know in what year you are living but we’ve had enough proof that agenda is more important than money for these types. Even if they do it subtle itll be there
@mrpants5462
@mrpants5462 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Total shitshow. Probably a Trans red Sonya
@Aenarion28
@Aenarion28 3 жыл бұрын
@@asisin2 no. These idiots think their ideology is a gold mine waiting to be exploited. They are partly right....but that gold is being spent on Srarbucks
@vincent207
@vincent207 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to default to cynicism, but I can’t see Red Sonja being anything other than a preachy mess with who’s currently attached.
@blackrazer22
@blackrazer22 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 If this was 20 years ago maybe, but in today PC climate and with one writer with no background and another with writing about gender issues, this is going to be Woke Sonja.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 With the writer and director they hired, this movie will go about as well as a weepy romance movie written by Shane Black and directed by Michael Bay. Without even mentioning the woke crap that will surely be in the movie, those people are just badly chosen to make this type of movie.
@jamesdrake3651
@jamesdrake3651 3 жыл бұрын
You can't lose defaulting to cynicism in the woke era.
@julesguermonprez1392
@julesguermonprez1392 3 жыл бұрын
As if we didn't already have a more fundamental issue : Millenium. The company behind : Conan 2011. Renny Harlin's Hercules. Hellboy 2019. Does such a track record scream "we can deliver the goods and find success when diving into fantasy and mythology?) (and I'm not that confident in that Legend of Sinbad they're planning either.)
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked
@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked 3 жыл бұрын
@@julesguermonprez1392 Aw. I've personally never heard of Red Sonja, but as soon as i saw what she looked like, i immediately became interested lol. Then again, if it's going to be woke trash...nah, fuck that.
@whitewalker9862
@whitewalker9862 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Red Sonja fan since I first read Conan comics when I was a child. I collected almost all of Red Sonja comics. With saying that, honestly I don't want today's woke Hollywood make an adaptation of it. I'm not expecting her to appear in her classic chain mail bikini in a movie. Because that classic look is absurd even by comic standarts. I'm not against a more appropriate female armor for Red Sonja, maybe like Wonder Woman or Xena. But we all know that today's producers, writers, directors will woke the shit outta the concept by turning her a man hater.
@GutsofEclipse
@GutsofEclipse 3 жыл бұрын
Absurd by what standard? Appropriate for what? We're not talking about a business meeting here. It's a high fantasy story that plays on sex appeal. So long as you continue to agree to their ridiculous premises, you're also continuing to neuter any claims that their points are invalid. We've seen that the left views compromise as a signal to demand more and move the next compromise further left, thereby constantly moving the overton window leftward. There's no appeasing them. People need to just flat out tell them that they're not making decisions based on the dishonest, bigoted, malicious power games of a bunch of cultural Marxists. If they don't like it, they can go scream to themselves somewhere out of earshot of the office. Literally the only way to deal with them is to tell them "no".
@whitewalker9862
@whitewalker9862 3 жыл бұрын
@@GutsofEclipse Dude, I don't give a shit about woke premises. I'm talking about armor being realistic. Even by high fantasy standarts, a warrior only wearing loin clothing like Conan or chainmail bikini that's useless like Red Sonja is absurd. In Robert E. Howard's original books Conan wears any armor he can find at the situation. Marvel Comics illustrators and then Arnold's movie made his almost naked look which turned people's typical Conan image now. Also at Red Sonja's first comics appearance she was wearing a full chainmail shirt, later illustrators changed into a bikini because of sex appeal. In comics you can get away with that, looks great and sexy but still absurd. But in a movie even if it's high fantasy you need a more realistic look for a warrior woman going into a combat and chainmail bikini would look hilarious. Maybe there can be a scene that takes a nod to her comics look, but a full movie where Red Sonja wandering around like that won't work. I'm not saying to dress Red Sonja in a full plate armor for the movie. That's why Wonder Woman's movie armor and Xena's armor comes to my mind, they look like Amazonian and still feminine.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitewalker9862 Speaking of skimpy outfits, what would be your take on Vampirella, or Elvira, for that matter? ;) For me, Xena's armor is some of the most realistic female sword and sorcery armor I've seen in cinematic form. It's a practical trade-off of weight vs defense, as in it can protect her from receiving mostly flesh wounds, but it still provides her with enough flexibility and agility to perform moves that a more heavily armored opponent obviously couldn't (like flips). There are "some" issues with the armor, since it doesn't really cover areas like the neck or other parts of the body (the parts that have exposed skin), so in that regard, I would say it should have been combined with the armor of the Mord-Sith of Legend of the Seeker (fight scene example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52yfYVvgaiKers), but it is being accused of being a "cat-suit". That combination, along with a skull cap type of head protection, would make for a pretty streamlined armor, especially if used by an assassin type of character. :/ And in all fairness, the Wonder Woman "armor" is kinda pointless. As a demi-goddess, she'd be half-impervious to any mortal weaponry. Her divine aura and nature would make bullets useless against her - it might injure her, but not kill her. I mean, Superman is just a plain "mortal" alien, and bullets can be shot directly at his eye and he'd just shrug it off, not to mention he's been resurrected at least once cinematically. DC still hasn't exactly covered on how Diana is able to be half-divine in the modern world, since it's a widely known fact that divine power is either based on tapping a very large power source (usually cosmic or magical in nature), or using faith as a power source (as in the more people believe in you, the more powerful of a divinity you are). :/ And speaking of absurd, that's like having wood huntsmen wearing animal skulls as helmets, and getting their heads bashed in by pieces of wood (I'm talking about the Wrong Turn 2021 reboot). :P
@whitewalker9862
@whitewalker9862 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacademy Elvira and Vampirella are vampires (techically Elvira is a vampire alien if I remember right), so being as seductive supernatural beings revealing looks are part of their characters. A movie production involving one of these characters should accept the classic image and go for it. But a Red Sonja is on another level. Feminity is and always will be a big part of Sonja's character. That's why, as a Red Sonja fan who collected her comics and statues, from my perpective a movie costume design should not destroy her feminine look. She's not a superhero or has got supernatural powers, she's a warrior. Rushing into a fierce battle with wearing only her bikini armor looks cool on comic book, but it would look hilarious for moviegoers and probably lots of internet memes would born from that scene. A good moviemaker can easily make a nod to her comics look in some scenes and also update the armor nicely. 1985 movie did it already, she looked fine, the movie was terrible but her looks wasn't the problem. But unfortunately I don't think today's Hollywood can make a good Conan or Red Sonja adaptations. The announced writer and director choices already proves the direction they're going.
@vikajorjadze8968
@vikajorjadze8968 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitewalker9862 Red Sonja armor in a movie was not a bikini and was still pretty feminine and sexy, so yeah... But they will most probably dress her like man this time (and she won't even have boobs)... They will probably cast Ruby Rose or someone like that...
@paul.9828
@paul.9828 3 жыл бұрын
The character is a redhead. To keep up with current political trends, they will turn her into a black woman.
@johnedgar7956
@johnedgar7956 3 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 3 жыл бұрын
for some reason hollywood seems to hate red heads.
@schrodingersgat4344
@schrodingersgat4344 3 жыл бұрын
Why not? It "worked" for ...ha,ha..Batgir.........I can't I'm laughing too hard.
@dlee645
@dlee645 3 жыл бұрын
Who will also be lesbian.
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 3 жыл бұрын
Little Mermaid - Original: Red head, live-action: blackwashed Batwoman - Original: *Natural* red head, live-action: blackwashed Red Sonja - Original: red head, live-action: Probably gonna be blackwashed.
@TDHurley
@TDHurley 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that a Red Sonja movie will ever be successful; especially in today's current woke Hollywood.
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 3 жыл бұрын
so true because what Hollywood had become
@chrisdolan8392
@chrisdolan8392 3 жыл бұрын
Hurley there's no such thing as woke
@mummifiedgamer
@mummifiedgamer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh it would be, just not the version that current hollywood would allow to make.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately agree. The only way you can make a good or at least enjoyable Red Sonja film is if you don't play that game. Hollywood has proven that they can't kick the addiction, so I'm not expecting anything even halfway decent from them. :/
@Halfort57
@Halfort57 3 жыл бұрын
@Robertino Tanos a Mary Sue. LOL. Sure, champ. Sure she was lmao
@joeldumont7874
@joeldumont7874 3 жыл бұрын
I give up modern screenwriting, they just want to inject thier ideologies and forget how to write a good story. Fantasy and sci fi have been infested with crappy story tellers.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the person they hired for this (according to the video) has practically zero experience. Hollywood execs and producers have absolutely no respect for the art of writing. That's why they think they can cheap out and hire these novices to write scripts who will win them twitter brownie points. Despite dozens of woke movies losing hundreds of millions of dollars over the past few years, the morons who run the studios still can't figure out the obvious. Audiences are wise to their BS and don't want to see woke garbage. Despite how little regard audiences are given, even common people still want well-told stories by talented people.
@slider999a
@slider999a 3 жыл бұрын
The only way you'll see a good script is if their paycheck is dependent on the money the movie makes.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Well, their failures/miscalculations are someone else's gain. As long as they are paying people with little or no experience money to make poor movie after terrible movie, the actual good writers (and those with potential) are writing good, decent and awesome stories that will lead to them being considered the best by the audience. The audience's opinion is the only thing that matters (both financially and in franchise goodwill) and their appreciation can't be bought, just cultivated by providing them things they enjoy, like great characters who do things that everyone understands and can relate to, and tell stories that resonate with people who only wants good entertainment. :/ For example, I'm keeping my eye on an upcoming movie called Lazarus (2021). It's a mix of the Lazarus power, but with a superhero twist (like the Rendel vigilante movie), mixed with some martial arts, with a black male lead. Looks very promising, and I hope it's an equally good watch like Enhanced (2021) was. As in, it's a franchise I could be persuaded to follow, since it's a return to good entertainment again, and it has an open ending, which opens the door to more movies in the franchise (and 'empowerment' done VERY WELL in the process). :/ On the other side of the spectrum, there's The Unholy (2021) (think about that TV series that featured the Devil posing as the Messiah in modern day), but in this film, it's a female "faith healer" who builds up a large following, who claims her power is divine, but in actual fact, the source of her power is demonic (the trailer doesn't indicate whether she knows this or not). :/ So yeah, there are still stuff to watch out there to watch, but it's just not mainstream. :/
@melanieenmats
@melanieenmats 3 жыл бұрын
I read so much science-fiction and I know exactly what you talk about. I followed this podcast "the escape pod" with amateur audio-book readings and short stories. It was often very good. Then suddenly they had a month of only women writers.... and it went to hell in a matter of months. Most of the stories were suddenly just general drama crap; soap series set in space. They were about the insecure feelings of some future lesbian whatever. The stories were crap, and they were in no way real science fiction. All these writers just abused the existing channels to get their foot in the door or they thought it was cool-nerdy or something. And they pushed many great beginning or amateur writers right off the platform. +LOL I just went back after years to see the state of the place... This was the title of the first article: Announcing Black Future Month .... Unbelievable.
@SheldonAdama17
@SheldonAdama17 3 жыл бұрын
“Producers try something different” (Cue Sam Neill Event Horizon scream)
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever they say "a new take on a classic franchise", I feel nauseous right on the spot. Because the general history of "new takes" usually leads to "filmmakers" totally misrepresenting or failing to understanding what the original franchise and characters were all about. :/
@Snyperwolf91
@Snyperwolf91 3 жыл бұрын
I see , a man of the drinker culture aswell.
@paulcoy9060
@paulcoy9060 3 жыл бұрын
"Liberate Tu Tamei" Save Yourselves.
@richtea615
@richtea615 3 жыл бұрын
Woke Red Sonia will have dyed florescent red hair and weigh 300lbs.
@biker2416
@biker2416 3 жыл бұрын
And be non binary, missing an arm, be middle eastern
@matthewdavies2057
@matthewdavies2057 3 жыл бұрын
Rainbow mohawk in 3.. 2.. 1..
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 3 жыл бұрын
And a penis
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, they should just bring in Uwe Boll. At least Blubberella was a fun watch, because it made fun of the skinny actress stereotype in a way that wasn't mean spirited? :P
@Snyperwolf91
@Snyperwolf91 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacademy I mean his movies are bad but watchable . Watched the first dungeon siege movie with jason statham . Even if he doesnt fit for fantasy movies and some things are horribly made and written , it was still a pretty okay movie . Even the postal film is a masterpiece of a disaster . Bad but so unapologetic , i can only love it !!
@ghostwarrior3878
@ghostwarrior3878 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is going to suck.
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 3 жыл бұрын
we all know it is.
@johngaltjkt62
@johngaltjkt62 3 жыл бұрын
Remember how Harley Quinn was portrayed in Suicide Squad and how she was portrayed in Birds of Prey? How she was portrayed in Suicide Squad was how the character was written. I fear we'll get a Birds of Prey type of portrayal for Red Sonja
@FEMBT-yb8rh
@FEMBT-yb8rh 3 жыл бұрын
*Too bad. Margot Robbie would make a great Red Sonja if a true hardcore adventure fan makes the movie.* *Creative collab by Peter Jackson and Keanu Reeves?*
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked the Red Sonja movie. As a kid, and as an adult, I dug the hell out of it. I felt it was basically another Conan movie.
@Cleron_O_Andarilho
@Cleron_O_Andarilho 3 жыл бұрын
This movie probrably will be bad like Charlies Angel, i know its pessimism, but i prefer not to hype for anything nowadays.
@biker2416
@biker2416 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve conceded to just watching anime at this point western entertainment is dead
@Cleron_O_Andarilho
@Cleron_O_Andarilho 3 жыл бұрын
@@biker2416 Agree, here in South america we were raised by anime.
@blackrazer22
@blackrazer22 3 жыл бұрын
@@biker2416 Anime is going woke as western companies finance it more.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackrazer22 Yup. But at least some of it is still pretty watchable, and there will always be underground/indie and sane artists, franchises and writers who will make sure awesome content still is being made and distributed. But it's up to us to support that work, so it can still be made for us to enjoy. :/
@blackrazer22
@blackrazer22 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacademy True, but it will be harder to find and the good stuff my not make it overseas. It will be like in the 80s or 90s before anime went mainstream.
@Mister-Six
@Mister-Six 3 жыл бұрын
All I want is a story of high adventure.
@InternetHydra
@InternetHydra 3 жыл бұрын
Have to make your own. I'm doing that now, but it'll be awhile before it's ready for publication... and the world needs at least a thousand of those networking together, not one.
@slagit
@slagit 3 жыл бұрын
In this modern world sadly I have to say good luck!
@1simo93521
@1simo93521 3 жыл бұрын
We live in a world of 'no escapism' everything must relate to modern politics.
@Arthirias
@Arthirias 3 жыл бұрын
You will get the university snowflake zoo instead
@ymca4547
@ymca4547 3 жыл бұрын
Mister Six, what is best in life?
@peppermintspacecapsule9898
@peppermintspacecapsule9898 3 жыл бұрын
Although her acting inexperience showed in a couple of scenes, Brigitte Nielsen physically was Red Sonja! (And always will be, for those of us who were there in '85. 😉 )
@peppermintspacecapsule9898
@peppermintspacecapsule9898 3 жыл бұрын
@CommentCop 666 - You knew the exact moment I was referring to! 😆 Yes, that was Paul Smith as Falkon. He also played The Beast Rabban in Dune!
@vikajorjadze8968
@vikajorjadze8968 3 жыл бұрын
It was cheap, innocent fun. With bad acting and production values but it didn't harm anyone. The new one will be woke propaganda followed by campaign where producers will call anyone who won't like the movie sexists, fascists, and racists.
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see others who enjoyed the "original" Red Sonja movie ! 👍☺
@peppermintspacecapsule9898
@peppermintspacecapsule9898 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericpode6095 ​ @Vika Jorjadze - You know it!
@nothanks3236
@nothanks3236 3 жыл бұрын
Brigitte still got it too, still smoking hot today.
@elvenfay
@elvenfay 3 жыл бұрын
Funny red sonja was one my role models when i was kid. I loved the film, a strong female that could stand up to men. I loved that the villain was also a female. The priestess all of it. That being said. I don't know if i want red sonja being director hollywood right now
@castantino
@castantino 3 жыл бұрын
If they're going to worry more about the "Twitteratti" then what the general audience will think then it will be better to just shut it down
@4sakend1
@4sakend1 3 жыл бұрын
Red Sonja in this day and age will be a hot mess.
@trenwilson6613
@trenwilson6613 3 жыл бұрын
From what I'm getting about who is making this version, it won't be a hot mess it will just be a mess. @Jake C I truly hope I'm wrong.
@toadsmoothy
@toadsmoothy 3 жыл бұрын
If this new Red Sonja movie is made, it'll make the 1985 movie look like a masterpiece by comparison.
@duffeeuk131
@duffeeuk131 3 жыл бұрын
Every Conan film ended with him sitting on a throne as an old king with the narrator saying "That is another story". Now Arnold is older, the time is right to make that film!
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 3 жыл бұрын
Too late.
@1simo93521
@1simo93521 3 жыл бұрын
He's too old now.
@thewolfofwallstreet627
@thewolfofwallstreet627 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing how badly Hollywood messed up the terminator franchise, I'm not even sure I want to see an King Conan film with an old Arnold Schwarzenegger anymore. Maybe if the trailers are very good, but still.
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 3 жыл бұрын
Leslie Jones cast as Red Sonja confirmed.
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 3 жыл бұрын
Just threw up in my mouth a little.
@SheldonAdama17
@SheldonAdama17 3 жыл бұрын
(Cue Sam Neill Event Horizon scream)
@herrikudo
@herrikudo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boskov01 a little? You have the will of a god sir
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 3 жыл бұрын
This is so bizarre, it can come true.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@SheldonAdama17 Immediately followed by a "the power of Sonja compels you" exorcism? ;)
@vinweasel6169
@vinweasel6169 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like an incoming disaster in it's current form, might not be, but all the pieces are in place for it to be a flop.
@RPGmodsFan
@RPGmodsFan 3 жыл бұрын
What would be great to see is an adaptation of "The Shadow of the Vulture" (which is set in the 16th Century) where the Red Sonja character (aka Red Sonya of Rogatino) originates from, and not placed during the Hyborian Age. In case of "knuckleheads", like me, the opening credits should let the audience know that this is REH's true adaptation of the character (and not the Conan version).
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
80s opening crawls and voice-over narrations were kinda made for that purpose? ;) :P
@MariahSyn
@MariahSyn 3 жыл бұрын
Considering many warriors in certain cultures wore absolutely nothing but a bit of blue paint I have zero issue with the chainmail bikini. I can also pull the look off :P
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 3 жыл бұрын
If it was difficult before, imagine now in the times we live in, forget it, we will never have the version of Red Sonja we want.
@tacitus6384
@tacitus6384 3 жыл бұрын
In another time I'd be happy for a Red Sonja movie. But in today's era, where culture is dominated by the Church of Woke No, please god, no.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 Yeah your right but I'm just worried about what the "church" will destroy before they fall apart.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 I haven’t really seen any signs of a decrease in wokeness. So far Hollywood only seems to double down even harder. While Sonic was surprisingly good and deserved the success, it didn’t really change the wind in any meaningful way, it was more of a fluke success for Hollywood and less of a paradigm shift (or actually no paradigm shift at all as none of the other movie projects followed its lead). Everything is still marketed by its wokeness and I haven’t seen any deviation from that trend. Hell, Disney even kicked Gina Carano despite her huge fan appeal (and selling merchandise powers) just to not ruin the wokeness in Star Wars. For me it doesn’t look at all like wokeness could be reduced any time soon. Maybe I‘m wrong, but I don’t bet on it anymore and keep away from any hype.
@thewolfofwallstreet627
@thewolfofwallstreet627 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakec9522 That might be true, but it's still too early to tell. Keep in mind, James Bond is set to have 007 replaced by a black woman by the end of his next movie, and it's coming out later this year. Plus, there's been rumblings that Feige is not only wanting to change the "x-men" name to simply "the mutants" because of how outdated he and his vp believes the name "x-MEN" is outdated, but he also plans to still force a lot of diversity within next wave of marvel ips moving forward, so we don't know if woke culture is coming to an end or not. I hope it is, as I truly think woke culture is ruining entertainment for everyone honestly, and it needs to stop.
@lllFeanorlll
@lllFeanorlll 3 жыл бұрын
It's a red head woman soooooooo, strong black woman incoming.
@JennySparkz
@JennySparkz 3 жыл бұрын
3.....2.......1
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 3 жыл бұрын
In a red wig (like Batwhamam)?
@blowmebiatch
@blowmebiatch 3 жыл бұрын
A strong black TRANS woman coming. Biology and Science is waascist!
@Rod_Knee
@Rod_Knee 3 жыл бұрын
If Millennium makes "Red Sonja", it'll be horrific, woke garbage.
@SheldonAdama17
@SheldonAdama17 3 жыл бұрын
Get Gina Carano to play Red Sonja. She’d kick butt.
@EddieTheLightbringer
@EddieTheLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
While Gina is everyone's darling right now, if I were coming at this from the perspective of a casting director, she's not a good fit. She doesn't have the right look for Red Sonja. Having a dark-haired brown-eyed Italian woman playing a blue-eyed redhead would go over about as well as Jessica Alba playing Sue Storm. Sure, you could toss a wig on her and give her contact lenses, but that doesn't mean it'd look right by any stretch. Preferably you would want a natural redhead but you could get away with a blonde and the right hair dye. Personally, if I were casting, I'd put Karen Gillen in the role. She's a natural redhead and has the acting chops to do justice to it, and I think if given the right physical training she'd also bulk up for the role a lot better than ultra-slender Gal Gadot did for Wonder Woman.
@charliepotatoes001
@charliepotatoes001 3 жыл бұрын
@@EddieTheLightbringer I would have to disagree on Karen Gillian. She is approaching middle age at 33ish. Given the pre-production hell, principle photography through post-production re-shoot nightmare culture in studios now. Karen would be nearing 40 when promoting the film on release. Add to this a stalled release date of a few more years and Karen would be well out of the target age studios would want for sequels. If Red Sonja is going to be a bankable franchise and not a one off film flop then they (the studio) will definitely be looking to cast a much younger actress (21-26 model/athlete) someone at least decade younger than Karen.
@warren3831
@warren3831 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing Hollyweird it will end up being Queen Latifah
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 3 жыл бұрын
Max dees to you got yourself a bad as heroin
@EddieTheLightbringer
@EddieTheLightbringer 3 жыл бұрын
@@charliepotatoes001 I was coming at it from the perspective of "if filming were to start today," not "well this is the entire convoluted mess that we have to deal with." Because if we want to go down _that_ particular rabbit hole just burn the whole system to the ground and forget having any licensed properties being turned into films by this rotten establishment.
@BunBun299
@BunBun299 3 жыл бұрын
I will be genuinely shocked if this movie turns out any good.
@joeysanchez2023
@joeysanchez2023 3 жыл бұрын
Loved Red Sonja. It was raw.
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 3 жыл бұрын
This new writing/directing lineup does not fill me with confidence.
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 3 жыл бұрын
You know what I find funny, Red Sonja has almost never worn a 'chain mail bikini'. It's actually SCALE mail! She's worn a chain shirt, though which was her first costume. And yes, costume because a chain crop top isn't very protective. Then again, when you have a woman with as incredible fighting skill as you do with Red Sonja, why should she wear armour? Oh, and I have zero hope for anything barbarian related from here on in.
@Z-Man7
@Z-Man7 3 жыл бұрын
More concerning is that the people attached have no experience in creating high fantasy adventures.
@vikajorjadze8968
@vikajorjadze8968 3 жыл бұрын
But they are progressive... and they probably have twitter... so that's enough today.
@rurouni82
@rurouni82 3 жыл бұрын
All honesty, I truly believe someone like Snyder could do a pretty kickass Red Sonja or any sword and sorcery movie. Problem is, this sounds like it’s gonna be gimped by budget and possibly studio interference.
@GartheKnightReturns
@GartheKnightReturns 3 жыл бұрын
In today's climate I'm not hopeful, but we'll likely get Amber Heard in the lead, in black face with blonde hair. And it’ll be praised as stunning and brave.
@jondecker2068
@jondecker2068 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but only praised by the twittertwits!
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Red Sonja Funko Pop! in 2017. One day I looked at it and tried to think who'd be the perfect actress to play Red Sonja in the reboot and only name came to mind and I've actually met the actress. She's tall. Red haired. She's done some action movies and kicked some butt and she's a brilliant actress. That actress is Karen Gillan. I don't care what anyone says, she's perfect for the role.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 3 жыл бұрын
Karen Gillian is ok but I never find her stunningly beautiful. She is ordinary looking which nothing is wrong with that most women are ordinary.
@danielwilliamson6180
@danielwilliamson6180 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 I believe in Karen Gillan and I believe in her as Red Sonja.
@FEMBT-yb8rh
@FEMBT-yb8rh 3 жыл бұрын
*i thought of her too. She's really beautiful but kind of uncoordinated and goofy.* *The character should ooze sex appeal like Jessica Biel or Margot Robbie in the scalemail bra. Not just toughness. The actress in Scorpion King looked hot but may be too old now.*
@zufalllx
@zufalllx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm tired of everybody's "unique take", "fresh look" and "new intrerpretation"s. So tired.
@spaceranger7683
@spaceranger7683 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood can't make anything original that sells these days. Yet they still think they need to add their "creative license" into the things that they've licensed. I wish they would just accept the fact that their creativity braintrust is bankrupt, and corrupted by ideologues, and just stay true to the successful I.P. they had to leech off of in the first place. They would get rich, and we would be happy. Win-win.
@mrpants5462
@mrpants5462 3 жыл бұрын
A truly unique take would be sticking to the source material
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpants5462 And be a total act of rebellion? ;)
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@spaceranger7683 True. And a case for "creative license" CAN be made, but only if the creative license is applied by someone who knows WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING. A person who wants to change everything from a classic property and end up making a good movie, could have done EXACTLY the same with a new franchise, since it's his or her ability that created the success of the film, not the film property itself. Plus, the further you move from the original content (Hellraiser being the prime example), the less likely it is you can hit the sweet spot of success and nostalgia mining that a filmmaker is trying to (re)capture in targeting both. :/
@DrLynch2009
@DrLynch2009 3 жыл бұрын
"Big Red" Sonja.
@IndyDefense
@IndyDefense 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@eviljim292
@eviljim292 3 жыл бұрын
As a Big Red Sonja Fan, I have Serious Doubts, these are the right people to go forward with.
@arcnor1508
@arcnor1508 3 жыл бұрын
This potential iteration of Red Sonja has ALL the warning signs of being a disaster, both from a story standpoint and (likely) from a business standpoint. As Andre stated, it looks quite likely that both the currently-attached director and the announced writer were both selected for demographic reasons rather than any previous body of work, although I'll concede to Andre's opinion on the director's experience and skill since I have seen nothing of their work. This doesn't GUARANTEE any particular result -- there have been example in Hollywood of writers and/or directors who are either inexperienced or not otherwise known for handling certain types of material being given a shot at a big movie and the result is great, after all -- but given the experience of even the last five years, it's a definite "uh-oh" warning light. Then again, James Cameron and Tim Miller's attempt to reinvigorate the Terminator franchise worked out like it worked out, and those two names should once have virtually guaranteed success on a project of that nature, so nothing's set in stone. I think the greater warning signal is the unspoken conclusion made by these hiring decisions, that of "right, the IP's most-known iteration isn't PC enough and will get ratio'd on Twitter, so let's throw out all the stuff that make this character memorable to get the project going." That's the first step down the path of a story that doesn't remotely resemble the IP they spent so much acquiring and attempting to develop in the first place. They will, of course, be SHOCKED if it fails. And then blame the audience. For, you know, wanting RED SONJA.
@jelkel25
@jelkel25 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing that could happen to the character at present is to go back into development hell. There are no good movies to be had here, bury the character until the preachy, minimum effort brigade have all been fired or gone bankrupt.
@maisuchan6209
@maisuchan6209 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't hold my breath honestly, I really hope it's good though
@ovk-ih1zp
@ovk-ih1zp 3 жыл бұрын
Hou/Soloway helmed Red Sonja is going to make the 1985 movie look like Oscar material & this is coming from someone that went into the 2011 Conan with low expectations & felt it was better than expected.
@nbaldwin45
@nbaldwin45 3 жыл бұрын
The director and writer haven't exactly filled me with confidence with their comments about the movie. We've heard that Sonja is a superhero (she isn't), that she's a role model to young girls (nope), some guff about her being connected to the environment and that she's a female Conan (uh-uh). Not only that but Huo was praising the work of Gail Simone, who basically ripped the existing concept of Sonja to pieces and rewrote her as the bastard offspring of Conan and Xena.
@mikavirtanen7029
@mikavirtanen7029 3 жыл бұрын
This movie has so many red flags that it's kind of funny.
@bloodrosereaper2099
@bloodrosereaper2099 3 жыл бұрын
Why is "Badass Red Head slaughters barbarians and monsters in ancient world" so hard to do right? Chose an acrtress, have her learn to fight and get toned to "devil ass kicking" shape, have her go on a monster slaying quest, the end. It doesn't need to be high art or the greatest thing in the world, just make it fun, adventurous, sexy, gory and enjoyable to watch. Why is that hard?
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Someone already said something similar about Red Sonja movie: You have gorgeous, hot and half naked red head warrior woman in ancient sword and sorcery world who slays bandits, wizards and monsters. You dont have to be a genius to make good and fun action movie based on that. But Millennium are not interested to make money on this movie. They want to preach nazi-liberal politics.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 3 жыл бұрын
A Red Sonja movie doesn’t need Conan especially when you don’t have an established Conan film or tv series to crossover with.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
True, but crossovers CAN be fun. Take Xena and Hercules for example of how that can be done successfully. :/
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho 3 жыл бұрын
that's completely stupid
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 3 жыл бұрын
@@JulioLeonFandinho Why? As the video says Conan is almost never in the same comics as her. Why do they need to be in the same movie?
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho 3 жыл бұрын
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I'm sorry, my apologies, I read "A Red Sonja movie DOES need Conan..." 😁 Of course Conan isn't necessary in a Red Sonja story, as a movie or a comic, a book, whatever...
@berniebockwurst3687
@berniebockwurst3687 3 жыл бұрын
That music. I'm am getting Arch Warhammer Flashbacks.
@levyburns4163
@levyburns4163 3 жыл бұрын
Do you miss the racism?
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 3 жыл бұрын
Arch warhammer is my favourite races
@sblower9410
@sblower9410 3 жыл бұрын
flashbacks to yesterday? he uploads frequently enough
@saanon9334
@saanon9334 3 жыл бұрын
Just go and watch Badab or Vraks.
@carlmanvers5009
@carlmanvers5009 3 жыл бұрын
In the current climate it won't work. I can only hope people like Gail Simone don't try to get her greasy fingers into it.
@nbaldwin45
@nbaldwin45 3 жыл бұрын
She’s already the ‘creative consultant’... and writer Huo said she loved Simone’s Sonja run...
@carlmanvers5009
@carlmanvers5009 3 жыл бұрын
@@nbaldwin45 Didn't know that. We're fucked then.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the same person also contribute on that Red Sonja animated movie (Red Sonja: Queen of Plagues, 2016)?
@Waifu4Life
@Waifu4Life 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell just by his voice that Andre is MUCH more passionate about this than Star Wars and other properties.
@Aikurisu
@Aikurisu 3 жыл бұрын
Won't see it. I really don't care about any new content but then I'm happy with Conan Exiles anyway for current entertainment for the years ahead.
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion 3 жыл бұрын
"In the aftermath of Wonder Woman being a hit, Red Sonja was back on". So why not get the writer of that movie to write Red Sonja? No, I'm not talking about WW84.... I'm talking about WW (2017). The guy is also a famous director too.... and a big name right now. He also seemed to have written and directed another movie... coming out this week, in fact.
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 3 жыл бұрын
Company that can't teamed up with writers that can't. Yeah... guess my entertainment will continue to come primarily from places other than the US.
@ikept_the_jethryk2421
@ikept_the_jethryk2421 3 жыл бұрын
I had a neighbor who was a childhood friend of Robert E Howard and wrote a book about him. The neighbor was a little old lady when I was young and it was hilarious to listen to her talk expertly about slaying enemies and the lamentations of the women
@RaveSault
@RaveSault 3 жыл бұрын
Lemme guess their gonna keep her head "red" but change the skin color, like what they did to sta-- I mean dumpsterfire.
@GothicXlightning
@GothicXlightning 3 жыл бұрын
Adore Red Sonja, she was always my favorite character within the Conan of the barbarian universe and i care a lot for Conan as well i just hope that justice will be delivered for this project despite me knowing that things are never perfect especially movies i just hope it won't be an insult to everything that is great and beautiful about my Red i know Tyris Flare will always be one of my dearest icons of gaming history but it cannot be denied that she was heavily inspired on Red Sonja same way that Ax battler was on Conan
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 3 жыл бұрын
Those two are gonna massacre Red Sonja film with so much Wokeness that they're inevitably going put in.
@michaelbrashears8293
@michaelbrashears8293 3 жыл бұрын
The saying is ignore your fans at your own peril. Hollywood has shown it doesn't understand the fans so I doubt it will be good. As a diehard fan I don't think we will get a good Conan or Red Sonja movie till we get a diehard fan write or direct the movie
@maplebob23
@maplebob23 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t they just gender swap Red Sonja to make her modern and great?
@maplebob23
@maplebob23 3 жыл бұрын
What could be more empowering than turning a beautiful, strong woman into a bandied-legged, sly man who, instead of fighting with a sword and chainmail bikini, fights with his wits, maybe through making a series of deals, or contracts, with various people? Just remake A Fistful of Dollars and call it Red Sonja!
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@maplebob23 You must be thinking of the arms dealer in Sinbad and the War of the Furies (2016), right? ;)
@FEMBT-yb8rh
@FEMBT-yb8rh 3 жыл бұрын
*Yeah! And call her "Coman: The Brabarian.* *Nice ring to that. Straight to video cult classic.* "I yam whaman. Hear me rawr."
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
@@FEMBT-yb8rh Sounds like a possible spoof film idea? :P
@RolfHartmann
@RolfHartmann 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever they choose to play Red Sonja will likely have as much of an effect as who writes it, but this role is very difficult to cast. You'd need someone with the charisma to carry the film, and has the physicality to bring the character to life and have it not come off as another waif who kicks ass character. Katheryn Winnick would have been perfect a few years ago, and if filmed today could still be great, but franchises you have to think about how any actor will look for the next several years. If she could put in enough training time Samara Weaving could be one of the better possibilities.
@gfwinn
@gfwinn 3 жыл бұрын
A relative unknown coming from the woke wasteland of the comics industry and a guy who might as well have a gender studies major based on his work writing and directing a reboot of a legacy franchise. What could possibly go wrong? (I can smell the dumpster fire from here).
@chrisw207
@chrisw207 3 жыл бұрын
The comics recently addressed the chain mail bikini: it's not chain, it's scale mail.
@paulcoy9060
@paulcoy9060 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, a fine distinction. However, in that early Conan appearance, that could definitely be called chain mail. but I guess it covered up too much of Red, so skimpy armor was invented.
@miguelitoenriquefilo7946
@miguelitoenriquefilo7946 3 жыл бұрын
Red Sonja will be a giant lesbian (possibly trans) and Conan will be a black Cimmerian (originating from a cold climate - figure that one out) and all the Stygians will be the heroic noble oppressed being squashed by all the white Aquilonians.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Considering her original reason for hating "evil men", I can see her being cast as a lesbian (but I'm hoping for a classic feminist) character. As for Conan depiction, I doubt that will happen since the character is owned by someone else. I could more see her TEAMING UP with a black character (since the "barbarian" caste in fantasy would consist of a rather large assortment of characters, especially in port or border towns). I don't want to see a black Conan, but I'd be interested in seeing what they do with a brand new Conan-esque black character; I'd much rather like to see a spin-off of a new or side character's journeys and adventures, like Rongar in The Adventures of Sinbad (USA Networks version). Give me an expanded view of the world of the franchise I've always loved, rather than trying to reboot it every 5 minutes with another actor or actress playing the main character. That's what most people want to see in any case - the world building leading into a much larger fictional world being explored. :/
@yootoob7048
@yootoob7048 3 жыл бұрын
I think the current Millennium plan for Red Sonja is a Red Herring.
@daveb1930
@daveb1930 3 жыл бұрын
In the name of diversity and representation, I won't accept any Red Sonja movie that's not directed by a smoking hot redhead.
@PsychoWedge
@PsychoWedge 3 жыл бұрын
If they did a movie that is good AND faithful to the glory days of Red Sonja (before Gail Simone and her successors), it would be glorious. I cannot imagine anybody not indy doing it though...
@dtzyYT
@dtzyYT 3 жыл бұрын
0:13 I think I've seen enough.
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 3 жыл бұрын
They're becoming easier and easier to spot.
@dtzyYT
@dtzyYT 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. No crazy hair on this one but still.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 3 жыл бұрын
@@dtzyYT I don't see it?
@mrplaystation2617
@mrplaystation2617 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how Hollywood makes movies for a type of person that’s not even interested in that genre
@dirus3142
@dirus3142 3 жыл бұрын
I have only low expectations for this project. A writer with no experience, and a director that does "gender" shows. This will not be good. Get some people who worked on the Xena show, and other action movies from the 90s.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think they will go that route. The Xena show had quite the little controversy towards the end of its run, mainly because it teased a possible "love angle" between Xena and her companion that never materialized, not to mention that Ares turned into one of the most well known iteration of the "Reylo Factor" (an abusive "BF" (aka a guy that forces himself into a woman's life simply because he wants to) that sacrifices himself for "love" in the end). Which made it about as relevant as any other romantic subplot in movies of that era, but just based on that alone, I can see why a certain segment of the population would refuse to allow any part of the creative team of that show to be involved in something like this (even though it would be a logical decision to make), but then again, it was made to appeal to the "problematic 50% of the world", not the highly progressive elitist snobs on Twitter these days. :/
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
And yeah, I totally get the entire Ares character arc. He's SUPPOSED to be the top tier villain of the series, but as a god, he'd have no have any reason to become infatuated or obsessed with Xena, apart from admiring her skill in battle, since he's the God of War, and his personality would have been geared towards bloodshed and war making (very much as he was portrayed at the beginning of the series, when he's plotting or scheming on how to get people to fight each other). He made no move to prove his feelings (apart from trying to seduce Xena around every corner), so the entire "guy in love but unable to express it" angle seemed an INCREDIBLY weird angle to take towards the end of the show. :/
@moserfugger6363
@moserfugger6363 3 жыл бұрын
This is all just a very frustrating story that will have a probably even more frustrating ending.
@JK-wx3il
@JK-wx3il 3 жыл бұрын
Woke Sonja, so stunning and so brave.
@roninmarketing4048
@roninmarketing4048 3 жыл бұрын
Andre, I really hope you get the Conan RS adaptations that you want as a fan. We will always have Arnie to look back on. Crush your enemies, see them druven before you...
@panzercroc
@panzercroc 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a woke mess of epic proportions..
@glprime2814
@glprime2814 3 жыл бұрын
The only Director I would trust with an action movie today, would be Quentin Tarantino. Maybe Nolan. Both have the reputation for being good directors who have the 🏀s to tell the studios to back off, the capitol to fund anything they wanted, and the fan support to insure no interference from any studio (look into the behind the scenes of the Dark Knight movies). Sadly, both directors have pretty much retired so I doubt a studio like Millennial could convince either of them to helm a property like Red Sonia
@billscott1601
@billscott1601 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it doesn’t get made with the proposed writers, hasn’t Hollywood learned that woke movies bomb.
@chrisdolan8392
@chrisdolan8392 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Scott there's no such thing as woke you stuck in That 2016 mindset
@louiscypher6772
@louiscypher6772 3 жыл бұрын
No they don't care
@alexcampbell7057
@alexcampbell7057 3 жыл бұрын
What Store line do you recommend to start which if you are getting into RED SONJA for the first time?
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
You should start from her old Marvel comics from 70ies: Episodes by Roy Thomas,Bruce Jones,Clara Noto (Red Sonja own series), Savage Sword of Conan (her single episodes), or her guest stories in Marvel Conan the barbarian series (team ups with Conan). marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Red_Sonja_(Earth-616)/Appearances The best and a must read Marvel Red Sonja to get know the character are: The Day of the Sword and Red Sonja (her origin stories), Tower of Blood (t.u. with Conan), Master of shadows, A War of wizards (t.u. with Conan). You can find first 15 episodes (from her own Marvel series) + 2 her origin stories (from Savage SOC) in reprint trades: Adventures of Red Sonja vol 1, 2 and 3 and in trade The further adventures of Red Sonja. From modern era (Dynamite), the first run (2005) by Michael Oeming and Carey is the best. It is dark, tragic, bloody but perfectly represents Red Sonja character. You can find it in Dynamite omnibus vol 1 and 2. I can also recommend recently finished run by Mark Russel. The writing is very good, he concentrates more on politics and social commentary, it has some really smart and cool dialogues and it depicts Sonja as a complex person with doubts and inner conflict but smart, sensitive and loyal to her people. Art is not great but its an excellent read. The best single episodes from Dynamite are Red Sonja no 31 (by Christos Gage) and Red Sonja Blue (by Peter Brett). There are also good single stories in Red Sonja TRAVELS trades (vol 1 and 2) and Savage Tales of Red Sonja trade, so check it out. The graphic novel Ballad of the Red Goddess by Roy Thomas is a must read too. It is a recently published comic book (few years ago) but Thomas and Esteban Maroto (creator of Sonja's famous chain mail bikini) made it in good old school style - this is original, true Red Sonja. You can find all of these comics online for free, of course. And avoid Gail Simone’s Sonja. It's a parody of the character.
@chicostephenson
@chicostephenson 3 жыл бұрын
maybe they'll go back to the original gunslinger.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. They will want to capture the "Western (as in the pop cultural)" feel of the character, and "Western (as in gunslingers)" connections are very "controversial" these days, both because of the gun component and the cultural period of exploitation. It's why you only see Western shorts being made these days (for the most part). :/
@josephcamhi5676
@josephcamhi5676 3 жыл бұрын
I just read Soloway's short story about Courtney Cox, and it is unbelievable to me that that short short story got Soloway into the writer's room of a hit show like Six Feet Under (or any show for that matter). You can search for it online, but KZbin won't let me post the link. I disliked Transparent because it was clearly a drama and not a comedy. I think Hollywood thought it was a comedy because it was only a half-hour long, and back then comedy's were a half-hour and dramas were an hour. Saturday Night Live even did a skit about how all these dramas are called comedies because they are a half-hour long. It was the last thing SNL skit I thought was funny because I'd been saying that ever since I watched Transparent. I think Transparent did so well because it was an early example of woke, and people in Hollywood wanted to like it.
@2OldGeeksTalking
@2OldGeeksTalking 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure writers today can write a strong sexy red haired, female warrior....perhaps a non-body shaming, non-binary, blue haired, protester.
@cortedemico
@cortedemico 2 жыл бұрын
when i think of casting for red sonja, i am reminded of grace jones. she nailed the female warrior role so much i think she wrote her own lines. fnck that! i bet she spoke off the cuff.
@Malum09
@Malum09 3 жыл бұрын
Jill Solloway is directing this?! that's it i'm jumping ship before it even sails off port
@asisin2
@asisin2 3 жыл бұрын
Its not relevant to this but i ended up watching the Solomon Kane movie and it kicks ass, i really hope they make a sequel or something the whole puritan in a cursed world bit is great. They could channel some dark souls imagery with it.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would continue with with the Solomon Kane universe as well. The character has a lot of potential, and the actor that played him sold the character to me as well. I'd recommend checking out the audiobooks of Solomon Kane stories to gain a better understanding of the character and his world - kzbin.info?search_query=Solomon+Kane+audiobooks. :)
@Harbinger359
@Harbinger359 3 жыл бұрын
In a parallel universe I might have been interested, but I don't seehow this can possibly end up as anything but woke.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
In a parallel universe, your cultural overlords would have made it compulsory state TV viewing! (And yes, I'm copyrighting that concept - (c)2021). XD
@piotrskodowski7544
@piotrskodowski7544 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that will not end well.
@MyEnemy
@MyEnemy 3 жыл бұрын
John Favreau directs, Gina Carano stars... case closed. If I ran Hollywood, that is.
@asch7906
@asch7906 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Frank Thorne
@gabegu5102
@gabegu5102 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna put much hope in this. TBH my hope capital to put on modern movies is pretty much spent. This is ripe for the woke and SJWs to get a hold of.
@onetwo5155
@onetwo5155 3 жыл бұрын
There we go again... Also noteworthy that licenses are taking over precedence over quality of the product. Corporate consolidation and lack of growth limitations is hurting our capacity to grow our culture once more. Finally, a comment on the "will not fly today" aspect... Has this really been tested? While insecure corporate executives and investors have only (biased) data to make decisions on, I believe it should be too apparent that money spending people and fans would really like something free of the current, or indeed any, school of politics; the Joker was proof of that.
@one-eye1721
@one-eye1721 3 жыл бұрын
Karen Gillan. Make it happen.
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
She is to cute, and has no curves to play Sonja.
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
I can see Olivia Thirlby pulling it off. She has the right kind of look, and could pull off that Red Sonja personality with relative success. She's also got drama acting chops (from the smaller roles I've seen her in), which helps when you have to pull off a character that is all about projecting a strong personality outwards, especially a character like Red Sonja, who is sometimes approachable, and other times totally terrifying. Whether she will WANT to do this role, however, is another matter. :/
@sigmacademy
@sigmacademy 3 жыл бұрын
Kristanna Loken or Natassia Malthe may also be contenders, but both actresses will probably not be able to commit to more than 1 or 2 movies max (considering the production time usually involved) before their age will mean a younger actress needs to be cast (which means visual continuity will be gone). They both can sport the Red Sonja look still, but I'm unsure what the long-term viability will be of using either, or even if there is even any interest in the role by either of them. I'd like to think we could still see both in such roles in the future, since both of them have been in such roles before and portrayed such roles convincingly. :/
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacademy Ten or 15 years ago, Kristanna would be perfect choice for the role of She Devil. I saw that after I watched Ring of the Nibelungs. She was terrific in that movie-gorgeous, sexy, gracious, wild and intimidating at the same time and totally convincing in the fighting scenes. That sort of actress they must find if they want to present true Red Sonja in the movie. Back then, at 2007. they have another strong contender for the lead role : Jesica Biell. She won the Red Sonja fans voting for the Red Sonja movie lead actress on the Dynamite site in 2007. 35% Jessica Biel 29% Kristanna Loken 19% Emmanuelle Vaugier 17% Kate Beckinsale
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacademy Olivia is very good suggestion. She has Red Sonja face, although she isnt curvy enough for She Devil but she could play younger Sonja.
@tipoc
@tipoc 3 жыл бұрын
Great, another of my favorite characters destroyed...RIP She devil with a sword!
@TechnoMinarchist
@TechnoMinarchist 3 жыл бұрын
Of course they'll wokenise it.
@TechnoMinarchist
@TechnoMinarchist 3 жыл бұрын
@Bobby Campbell This is why I stopped following modern entertainment. There's still plenty of the old stuff out there that I never got the chance to experience due to sheer volume that it doesn't even matter imo. These people can keep their woke versions, I have old books, comics, games and movies to catch up on anyway.
@goncaloferreira6429
@goncaloferreira6429 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the update.
@Simply_Steve752
@Simply_Steve752 3 жыл бұрын
The bright side is that it will be hard to make a worse movie than Brigitte Nielson's Red Sonja, the dark side that it is still possible and unfortunately likely.
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 3 жыл бұрын
How about a Dark Agnes movie, then?
@ryostu1
@ryostu1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm concerned Not excited Damn woke era
@Boskov01
@Boskov01 3 жыл бұрын
@Bobby Campbell Horrible, agonizing, and painful yes...but can we make it a fast one instead so we can get back to shows/movies that, I dunno...entertain instead of preach?!
@lukefrew631
@lukefrew631 3 жыл бұрын
With Hannah now announced, already having played another character in the MCU, can’t help but wonder if we’re already seeing effects of the multiverse. You have Gemma in Captain Marvel and Eternals. We might have rebooted versions of the Netflix characters with the same actors, you have all the Spidermen (possibly).... I hope people don’t get mad. This is awesome and she’s an amazing actress.
@aliprandusaliprandis5908
@aliprandusaliprandis5908 3 жыл бұрын
She is mixed/black woman so it doesnt matter how god actress she is, she can not play Red Sonja, a white Caucasian woman. Of course, fans of Red Sonja are mad.
@lukefrew631
@lukefrew631 3 жыл бұрын
@@aliprandusaliprandis5908 Sure, Jan. Please. Go hate off on someone else’s comment. I think she’s an amazing actress and she’s gonna do well as the character ✌🏽
@Mrdjango1425
@Mrdjango1425 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a woke nightmare. Hopefully it doesn’t get made. This will set back this character for decades.
@findJLF
@findJLF 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Red Sonia movie, which is relatively true to the comics. Looks like a winner to me. I wonder if swords and sandles (or bare feet) can generate audience interest nowadays. I reckon it would do very well.. something for Netflix to sponsor perhaps?
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