Captain America 4: A Brave New Disaster

[@zac0918]

they turned bucky into that unlockable boss character that is no where near as powerful he was when you had to fight him.

[@kingt0295]

apparently hes cool again in thunderbolts i hope that movie isnt terrible

[@hellkaiser2009]

@@kingt0295 Ahhh that's cos he spends SOME of the movie chasing after our misguided misfit band of set up anti-heroes. So get gets his antagonist power ups back temporarily to make it work. Honestly a REAL OG thunderbolts movie would have been awesome, was a fantastic concept. I don't loathe the "Marvels answer to suicide squad" version either. But I always thought that the original premise was cool. I might not hate the MCU thunderbolts as much as I suspect, but it's gonna be hard for me to root for the obvious swaps schlops and shit ones. No amount of john "He did nothing fucking wrong" walker. Will change that.

[@DeMan59]

@@kingt0295 even the name sounds stupid.

[@J1283-s1k]

The nerf for Bucky has been ludicrous.

[@twilitetide]

The real failing of TFWS is the HUBRIS of forgetting that the audience were either comic fans, MCU fans, or normies who had already seen the characters and interchanges (like the CW move your seat thing). Instead we got Bucky nerfed and Falcon turned into a pompous @ss. I actually hurt for the actors. Meanwhile even Zemo's valet had more fun.

[@TyTalks2020]

I think it's funny that no one is mentioning the fact that Bucky is ALSO a super soldier like Cap. Falcon is just a dude.

[@trevinormandy14520]

Yeah, Bucky got his juice from Hydra

[@AlGoYoSu]

I was looking for this comment. This is immediately what I thought when they they passed the shield to Falcon. He is not super in the MCU. Red Hulk punches Caps shield one time with a regular dude holding it dudes arm is going to be torn off.

[@TheRandompaint]

Any before any says so was Batman, Batman is a genius detective billionaire. Not the same at all.

[@billjames8036]

@TyTalks2020 That is where you are wrong, he is a black dude...... and that is all that matters to Marvel.

[@TheRandompaint]

@AlGoYoSu or shattered into thousands of pieces.

[@chance_ondriezek99]

Let’s face it, the reviews for this movie are gonna be better than the actual film.

[@AntiKira20]

I'm just waiting for the memes to happen.

[@MaxxadTV]

The early test reviews were actually terrible hence the re shoots in the last month

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

@@AntiKira20 same. I haven’t watch a marvel movie since end game, but I gladly hit up all the review videos and memes

[@HMNCLunar]

I'm already so excited for this movie to come out, so the very next week we can have the "So, you have a new Marvel content for me? -Yes, sir, I do!".

[@Majestic_SarubadoruComics95]

Yup, and then advertisements are going to be labeling it "ThE bEsT mArVeL mOvIe SiNcE eNdGaMe, Or BeSt MaRvEl MoViE yEt" like they do every year a new MCU film comes out.

[@samanthawoods8000]

So ... I never thought Falcon was cool. They took a regular guy, strapped some metal wings on him, failed to give him a real backstory, and called him a superhero. Now, they've given him someone else's shield, and we're expected to pretend that he can match the heroics of a super solider (like Bucky). It just feels unearned.

[@reaper7977]

Falcon is supposed to be similar to iron man but bird themed

[@MarkDeSade100]

How is a guy with no super strength or durability going to fight Red Hulk? 😂He will become a stain on the pavement with one punch.

[@thekingman5971]

Ya I’m not excited

[@orangesonicc]

That’s what DEI stands for “Didn’t Earn It”

[@godsu]

@@orangesonicc Isnt the electoral college a DEI for small red states?

[@ComeauSoftwareSolutions]

"Brave New World" ... because naming it after a dystopian novel about people being bred and conditioned to obedience is just so much better.

[@Wowjustwow37]

Seriously 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@dwboston1]

And it's actually at least the third title for the movie. People must have blocked the original title Feige announced ("Captain America: Serpent Society") from their memories.

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

​@@dwboston1 wasnt that was the original title of the third one?

[@mrkeogh]

It's so on the nose that whoever suggested that title absolutely can't have read the book 😂

[@AlessandroRodriguez]

I think even the woke can't come with a script for the original title "captain america: THE handmaid tale"

[@Noperare]

We got Wonder woman: 1984 and now Captain America: Brave new world. Those writers sure love titles based on novels about authoritarian dystopias

[@marcelo3939]

and wonder woman 2 had nothing to do with the novel

[@Fred-gu6pk]

​@marcelo3939 Yes the novel is good a classic and highly influential. The film .... exists, unfortunately

[@leemangaming1020]

Unironically, they are doing the same stuff Orwell was talking about. Disney is always telling the audience to doublethink and spread propaganda even if it’s completely made up.

[@JO-qn8gy]

Captain African America

[@kaydars]

It's predictive programming in movie titles.

[@megasean3000]

Steve couldn’t take on regular Hulk. How tf they expecting Falcon with no super soldier serum to take on Red Hulk? Biggest case of hydrogen bomb vs. coughing baby ever.

[@XanKreigor]

Vibranium, it just works.

[@MexiFryStains]

One of the things that bothered me the most about FATWS was how sam kept acting like he was somehow morally better than everyone by not taking the serum. Literally would've done nothing but even the playing field against his enemies and give him a better chance at saving civilians and doing his job, but no 'super soldier bad'😐😐

[@kangkanlahkar9045]

Well he can fly

[@superidol238]

Plot armour

[@AkinokazeHaruichiban]

@@XanKreigor It really is such an amazing fictional metal. It can instantly neutralise the kinetic force of an attack, yet mysteriously knows to not utilise this property when used as a frisby/boomerang, and can still result in the user taking enough of a "hit" that it pushes them back [but only when it looks cool.] XD

[@greyjedi4794]

I stopped caring about marvel and star wars long ago. The reaction vids are way better than anything we will ever see from Disney.

[@wilfordbrimleyful]

I realized that too - once they prized Star Wars out of George's grip they stopped caring about the overall brand image, only about how they can prize the las red cent out of fanboy's wallets in the theatre and Disney subscriptions. As for Marvel, all comic accuracy is out the window which is ironically backfiring for them now - "You're kind of joining at a low point" as Deadpool said.

[@VygoUwU]

soon we're gonna have 1 billion dollar budget flops

[@cristoscoutroupis2567]

I think we already have

[@mackenziebarefoot1913]

Come out still twenty million in debt 😂

[@sanyammalhan]

Rings of Power is your answer.

[@mikkojaatinen4508]

But not in endless wars I hope 🙂

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Well another one haha. It is Disney after all

[@TheAce5511]

I remember when marvel movies coming out was a spectacle. Something you looked forward to. Now, I don't even know that a new one released

[@DougieYT]

Literally, I remember when I used to get stressed out by how far away an awesome Marvel movie was from its release, nowadays it doesn’t even phase me anymore.

[@deekorbel5259]

It's still a spectacle just not in a good way.

[@samuel5591]

I just look forward to the drama, cope, crying, namecalling from the studio and assorted victims - and then the hilarious youtube videos reviewing or responding. Far more entertaining and cheaper than going to see it - plus you get to support your favourite creators, instead of giving money to people that hate you. Win win win!

[@gmonkman]

Yea, that was the thing, it was a spectacle. Iron Man felt huge with the effects. Now effects are so trivial that they get smushed into every movie release. It didn't help when Marvel kept uping the effects ante until every fight scene was an ioverblown and incomprehensible mess.

[@lukeyznaga7627]

ahahhahahahhahaa

[@TheElbowMerchant]

"Some MF'ers are always trying to ice skate uphill." Blade called the state of the MCU out before it even existed. Truly a visionary. And that line always goes hard.

[@thundrchild4195]

Before Blade Marvel was a writing disaster and on the brink of bankruptcy. The trash writing came full circle.

[@liamphibia]

Wesley Snipes forever.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@Dive-Deeper no, it’s “uphill”. You have some rewatching to do because you’re the only one who thinks he said “a bill”

[@I_AM_BAYTOR]

If it wasn't for Ennis writing Punisher, I don't think I'd own anything from Marvel.

[@guilherme5094]

@@liamphibia Oh yeah!!!

[@TheEndingIsMeh]

The Hogan nwo reference is so top notch. Very well done sir.

[@xturbx]

Imagine that "The Marvels" made it through test screenings and this can't. My god this must be a disaster...

[@Maladjester]

Yeah, but who was at the test screenings?

[@robertbruce7772]

Sounds like it maybe Marvel's Joker Part Deux!

[@lukeyznaga7627]

It will be worst than the DC BAtgirl movie fiasco!

[@lights_utopia1130]

@@lukeyznaga7627 That movies apparently was so bad they didnt even release it lol.

[@andyw246]

Also not the only Marvel project seemingly needing reshoots after test screenings. Apparently same is happening for Thunderbolt. Not going well for the MCU

[@andrewparker8636]

My right ear phone wasn't working whilst listening to this. Nicholas Cage screaming magically fixed it. Thank you Nicholas Cage. Your talents truly know no bounds.

[@IloveNongthongbamBirenSingh]

LOL 😂

[@soshiderek]

Nic Cage helped save us from nuclear threat by grabbing that ball at Alcatraz.

[@WH250398]

Imagine having to deal with the Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent

[@Shaunshahriar]

Now if this was the top comment It would be brave new Irony

[@ILKOSTFU]

😂😂😂

[@Agooo13431]

You either die a hero or live long enough to feature "the message" in a Disney sequel

[@kajagoogoo9613]

Awesome

[@liamphibia]

Thank you, Harvey Dent.

[@MW92.]

All the marvel team are all lefties and openly slandered trump fans…they themselves have destroyed probably more than half of their fan base

[@superdave8248]

Captain America 4: Saving Agent Carter. Where Steve Rogers spends his time saving Peggy Carter's behind all while trying to keep his identity a secret because he is still on ice for another 50 years. You could even tie in the ending to Endgame as he does all of this before knocking on her front door and dancing with her in her living room.

[@kajagoogoo9613]

@@superdave8248 more like "Saving Carter's Privates"

[@dbzgotmadness]

When I saw that poster with Sam blocking a punch from Red Hulk I was like…. “No no no… this can’t be”💀

[@roguebarbarian9133]

. . . Do you remember a certain Avengers movie where Cap blocked Thor’s hammer? (It was the first one, lol). My point is, the shield can block whatever the heck the shield wants to block, so tanking a hit from Red Hulk is pretty reasonable.

[@bruh-hq9fc]

@@roguebarbarian9133the shield is made of vibranium so it’s very good at absorbing energy so maybe he could actually block a hit by the red hulk

[@xn9333]

​@@roguebarbarian9133 then any gym bro with a chunk of vibranium could take down a small country nevermind fight a fxckin hulk FFS dxmb

[@Wolffman109]

@@roguebarbarian9133 Steve Rogers was backed up by the Super-Soldier Serum, and the blow still knocked everyone (including himself) onto the ground. Sam Wilson, who's just a normal human being with a winged jetpack, has no chance.

[@zoppletee5400]

Vibranium absorbs kinetic force. It's always been a thing. The strength of the user doesn't affect that.

[@Icem4n84]

I don't know why they just couldn't make a movie called: The Falcon...

[@cattysplat]

Because they have no confidence in it and instead want to piggyback off the legacy of the previous successful franchise.

[@joaofarinha551]

@@cattysplatlet’s also not forget Disney’s mantra: straight white men=bad *insert minority*=good

[@SOPHIA-LOVES-MEATBALLS-69]

They already made the movie. The character was voiced by James Woods in stuart little 2😂

[@raymondluca7779]

@@cattysplat aka typical woke/dei garbage

[@randomalbum9879]

Chris Evans is Captain America. If he's not in this, it should not have the name Captain America.

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

“You need to do better, Marvel.”

[@beastcraw]

This comment deserves a comment.

[@SurnaturalM]

"You gotta step up"

[@burmecian123]

*You* gotta step up!

[@YarrickMusic]

😂😂 nice.

[@saintniccage2818]

Same video for 6 years....and yallll still watching

[@g1llifer]

Seeing Bucky going through the struggle of becoming Captain America while dealing with his past would have been great to watch..

[@davidpa9266]

......Did you happen to notice that the actor playing Bucky is, HWhite? And Falcon is, a black? Didney sure did.

[@SOPHIA-LOVES-MEATBALLS-69]

LOL Didney😂​@@davidpa9266

[@ImAgentK]

@@davidpa9266Your point?

[@victordike8467]

​@@davidpa9266always saying stuff just for the sake of saying stuff, delete your comments because it made no sense, Bucky did not become Captain America he became the white wolf in the comics, falcon became Captain America and five other characters became Captain America also, Bucky can't be Captain America because he was formerly a criminal an assassin, he has been gone for so long and he just came out of nowhere but you want him to just straight up be Captain America make it make sense, yo keep acting like they just randomly pick black people because they are black why would they do that they already have a lot of black characters, everyday on the internet you incels scream comic accuracy until it's accurate in the way you don't like

[@QisforQadim]

@@victordike8467 Umm. Bucky did become Captain America. Same arc when he was dating Widow.

[@Michael.Gr3y]

2:39 Mark Ruffalo is too busy packing his bags to go live in another country 😂

[@RogerCaplan]

He's taking ages doing it. How big are his bags?

[@ttabood7462]

On your list of reasons why Bucky Barnes makes more sense to become Captain America you can also add: 'He's a fkng super soldier.'

[@crazyralph6386]

That’s what it all boils down to really? Falcon is simply a human at peak performance, yet he’s clearly doing super human feats in this trailer that are simply impossible. They nerfed the hell out of him, which makes absolutely zero sense and it’s a direct insult to the fandom.

[@Hiraghm]

actually, that's one reason why he shouldn't be Captain America.

[@lostree1981]

On your list of shit to research you should also add: "Bucky Barnes, did he ever actually get super serum" The answer... is no. He is just a guy with a metal arm.

[@Enigma75614]

@@lostree1981He actually did get the serum

[@paulw5039]

@@lostree1981 Maybe you should do *your* research. Seriously, Google it. I'll wait.

[@AlleyKatPr0]

*The moment Tony Stark snapped his fingers, it was all over*

[@jetuber]

Thanos had the last laugh on the MCU.

[@gnw_AstA]

Gotta keep raking in that dough somehow, you know how this industry goes, I suppose.

[@professorgames3261]

There were a couple of movies and even shows that I liked after Endgame, but it became not only an increasingly bloated franchise but too many of the movies were mid or bad enough to shadow any of the decent ones. All that to say that you are right.

[@russellharrell2747]

The story was concluded. It was called ENDGAME, it’s over. They should have had a real plan with a new storyline instead of half-assed continuations of multiple weaker storylines and an even less inspired Secret Wars attempt. But whatever. Just don’t watch the shit if you don’t like it.

[@ronb6313]

@@russellharrell2747 Agree 100%

[@lytalo]

The Falcon as Captain America was never popular in the comic books. They didn’t sell. This will be a disaster, I will not see it.

[@Prominent_intellect]

Falcon as captain America sold really well and it's good

[@Thurmanatr16]

@@Prominent_intellectlol stop

[@spectorproductions_]

Wrong ​@@Prominent_intellect

[@Elmo914]

@@Prominent_intellect That's focking cap

[@Elmo914]

@@utuber-x6o I was amusing myself but that prominent intellect guy is smoking crack, the falcon cap series did not sell well. Most of the comics related to it were canceled 6 months to a year later. It was not popular at all.

[@NBDYSPCL]

You joke but Charles Dance as Doom would have been a slam dunk.

[@Kaiser5557]

Also...the idea of a non'superhuman Captain America is weird. Some people forget it...but Steve Rogers wasn't just a strong man with a shield, he was a super-soldier. A man whose...everything...had been amplified beyond human limits, from his body to his mind. The falcon...has wings he didn't even build himself...and a shield... It feels weird to make him a major super-hero...when he's not "super".

[@DeltaVTango]

I made a similar point in my comment... however if I can insert a [1] Cought [2] Batman [3] cough here just to make the point that its not necessarily the lack of powers, its Captain American being powerless thats the problem

[@crateos]

His superpower is that he was born with a token, his blackness enhanced by DEI

[@davidgray6232]

Exactly. The shield should've gone to Bucky. He was on a par with Steve.

[@DeMan59]

@@DeltaVTango Batman also uses his head. He is five steps ahead of everyone. That’s how he beat Superman more than once.

[@djblackprincecdn]

The trailer makes it seem like Sam has super strength now though. I was puzzled by that when I saw it.

[@sebastiantrias1529]

There’s only one Captain America.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯👍

[@ihavethehighground732]

Edit: How are people saying oh the comics failed so he’s bad. No he failed because of the message, that’s my point. No one would care if there wasn’t a message. Treat black characters as they do white, focusing on the character and DEVELOPMENT; unless in a historic setting and real. What’s so hard to not grasp? Nah there isn’t, Steve gave him the shield in endgame people were hyped when it happened and it’s in the comics. Steve Rogers is the best sure but Sam could have been good and no one would have cared if there was no message and focused him on actually being Captain America.

[@BobParr2004]

And his name is Matt Salinger

[@C4lipp0]

Nah, I don't like what Disney did here either but there are several captains

[@gakorothyt9768]

Always have been

[@xitaris5981]

Not to mention Bucky is a super soldier... like Captain America. Falcon is just a guy with a vibranium shield.

[@walterwright8454]

Correct-a-mundo!!!

[@boomguitarjared]

Ahnd Falcon was never much in the limelight or given much character depth for the roll of someone representing an entire countries base ideals, Captain America. He isn't a shallow character or a bad one by any means, but he's nothing near Steve Rogers, or honestly Bucky either... I don't like going straight to these kind of claims, as it's a bit tired in the western culture landscape today, but making Falcon become Captain America really did feel like it was primarily about Falcon having dark skin, and it being a giant virtue signal, more so than it was for Falcon's character.

[@Drandai215]

And batman's just a guy with gadgets, yet he gets glazed constantly. Make a better argument.

[@mzytryck]

And he's already got his own distinctive set of powers in his wingsuit. An indestructible frisbee doesn't do anything that he hasn't already got with his missiles, drones etc. so it's REALLY obvious that it's only intended to be symbolic.

[@AnonymousNoNayme]

@@boomguitarjared He deserved his own arc and movie just as much as Bucky did. The reality of the situation is they shoulda got that together and been each other's Steve Rodgers and became battle buddies in his absence filling that void for one another and keeping each other accountable and on the straight and narrow (the same as a proper armed forces battle buddy). All we needed was an old school 90's style throwback black and white feelgood buddy cop movie that didn't overtly preach and just showed two bros being bros, not some divisive institutionalized/inherent racism regressive woke mind-virus nonsense everyone was sick and tired of hearing about years and years ago...

[@DocR16]

Putting the falcon in as captain America was a DEI hire. Obviously doesn't fit the role, but fits the other metrics

[@TY_Tianyou]

He's a good Falcon. He's a mid Captain America.

[@Adventure3Man]

I mean, he was in the comics lol, I think what you're saying is a bit of a stretch, though I don't disagree that it'll be bad

[@Colin04932]

Harrison Ford while filming Brave New World: “Let’s shoot this piece of shit.”

[@railtraining2556]

You can buy Ford for any kind of shit these days. I bet he would do Tijuana Donkey show for a few pennies.

[@wyslanniknewworldorder9525]

@@railtraining2556 I bet Ford can play on ukulele while dancing in front of kids for 20$

[@Sgt_Glory]

At least he understands exactly what he is.

[@manubour]

Given he's consistently accepted to feature in the character funerals of his most iconic roles for a big paycheck, that's not really surprising

[@JohnSmith-yr6yk]

“That shield belongs in a museum!”

[@Sajgoniarz]

As a software developer... I just too often tell to companies "I told you so", when they decide to "continue development" instead of rewriting their software from ground up, so i'm not surprised at all.

[@saurontrollbrawl]

where do you work, can u hook me up

[@ikol0ikol1]

@@saurontrollbrawlyou’re asking a random guy on KZbin to stretch his neck out and recommend you, who is also random guy on KZbin for a job at his company?? You’re delusional lol

[@dsmyify]

Rewrite is the call of someone who doesn't like getting their hands dirty. Uncle Bob knows rewrites never work out.

[@Sajgoniarz]

@@dsmyify there is nothing to get dirty about if application architecture does't meet non functional requirements and introducing any new feature takes 3x times it would need in normal conditions. Over my career i successfully rewritten 5 startups apps into modular, fully extensible software, and one Automotive ERP with lot of ISO logic underneath with 100 views in MS Access, where access to things was hardcoded by people names. With modern frameworks and patterns rewriting is piece of cake.

[@dawnfire82]

Same story as an attorney. You can tell your client, "this is stupid and you shouldn't do it" but, like children, they assume they know better and you're just an over-cautious fuddy-duddy they come running to when their idiotic plan blows up in their face. SO much litigation and business disasters could be avoided if idiotic executives just listened to their lawyers.

[@advancedassassin2554]

My main issue is when during the whole Avengers saga up until Endgame did Falcon show any qualities that Steve thought he deserved the mantle of the next Captain America, its like he just wanted to retire and was like "eh, you take it" giving it to his 2nd sidekick because Bucky wouldn't have it.

[@davismichaud507]

He’s black

[@6trillionmiles]

Drinker, cobra’s tushy is dirty again. He needs you to wipe

[@6trillionmiles]

Drinker, cobra’s tushy is dirty again. He needs you to wipe

[@worldsbuffestloremaster]

Ya, he was black. And all white characters need to be some other race now.

[@hamad3953]

I do agree Bucky would’ve been a better choice for the next captain America since he ticks all the boxes but even in endgame I didn’t mind falcon getting the shield, all marvel had to do is take their time and write it properly and make it feel earned but that’s clearly asking too much from marvel, I have no idea how falcon will deal with red hulk

[@arazif4436]

I'm still waiting for Captain Africa.

[@HonkaiMain]

Good to know that my favorite part of the MCU still hasn't recovered from Falcon and Winter Soldier.

[@6trillionmiles]

Drinker, cobra’s tushy is dirty again. He needs you to wipe

[@cigoLxeL]

Good points all about Bucky, but there's just one thing keeping him from taking up the mantle of Captain America: Sebastian Stan isn't Disney's favorite color.

[@Gregor1337]

I think the same

[@CraigMack-k7l]

Oh, wait a minute he’s not the same color as Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, Tom Holland, Chris Hemsworth Paul Rudd? Are you serious with this? Damn snowflakes man. One black character means Disney hates yt people 😂😂😂😂 clowns

[@seniormale]

Not woke

[@mackychloe]

@@Gregor1337 same

[@mikelaymon9329]

LOL guess we know what yours is

[@BG-gr6vc]

Sam already has two shields which are his wings, they're also blades, he has guns, missiles, and a drone that has those too. WTF did he need a shield for? Bucky should be Cap. He's America personified. Damaged, used, flawed, led astray and seeking redemption, he's also a super soldier and has a bionic arm, falcon was a great character as he was he didn't need anything else.

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

He was absolute menace in winter soldier kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKGZmZunbamXnbc

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Bucky is a terrorist in the eyes of the people and could never be cap .

[@CYCLOPS1994]

​@oXRaptorzXo The difference is that he was forced to be a terrorist, while Sam loves and protects terrorists.

[@llibertarivizcayamariano1729]

​​@@oXRaptorzXo Yeah, i wonder if a TV show can be made arround that idea and Falcon's resentment for not being choose as Cap's replacement... Maybe Falcon and the winter soldier as title for the show... Mmmm 🤔

[@sbill001]

Exactly! It's like giving Rambo a pen knife dumb as s#£t

[@iZehta]

TV shows and movies have gotten to the point where I've stopped watching basically everything because reviews like yours offer more entertainment than they ever could

[@Ravigyne]

You can polish a turd, Mythbusters proved that. However they did conclude that a polished turd is still a turd.

[@323johnnybravo]

The real question is can you polish the wet fart that this movie truly is.

[@PoolKid75]

I was thinking the same thing lol. I love that show, and I love whenever it gets referenced. I still use many of the lessons they taught me. It doesn't get even half the credit it deserves.

[@Blindluck92]

Disney really seems to think that, with enough time and the censorship of everything actually enjoyable, people will somehow magically start to think the polished turds are chocolate. It's adorable, honestly.

[@gooshie3]

Dinosaur turds are coprolite after millions of years of polishing

[@NoahGooder]

oh yes that show was part of my childhood lol

[@TruthSeeker007-j7f]

If Falcon holds the shield and Hulk punches him. He would instantly be crushed.

[@MyFatherLoves]

I'm sure they're going to explain away how Vibranium is able to take the hit and somehow defy all the laws of physics. Grounded my rear end.

[@Jimvenice2008]

That energy has to go somewhere.

[@TurboGomez]

Let's not try to dissect it too far FFS it's a comic book movie.

[@Itdoesnotmatter100]

​@@MyFatherLovesWell, thats how it worked in the comix. Sometimes. Sometimes staying true to the source material is a bad idea.

[@Biscuits645]

​@@TurboGomez Yes but there are still rules within that world. Otherwise everything in it is just meaningless.

[@richardmendy4914]

As a black guy who's favorite marvel character is Captain America. Steve Rodgers will always be Captain America.

[@ihavethehighground732]

So can Sam Steve is dead now; if he was written no one would care.

[@Deridus]

I'm a whitw dude, and my favorite Marvel movie is STILL Blade. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the MCU films I watched, but Blade still outshines them in my opinion. When I finally got around to watching Infinity War, I didn't know who half the characters were because of all the subtle and not-so-subtle changes, to say nothing of not having seen half the movies because I didn't know they existed.

[@Hiraghm]

As a white guy who's favorite marvel character is probably Rocket... Audie Murphy will always be Captain America.

[@CYCLOPS1994]

​@@Hiraghmsure fellow white

[@mateoreyes6921]

As a Colombian, there is only one Captain America to me

[@Orashidimaru]

"How many reshoots we need?" "Yes"

[@ChancellorOtomovonBismarck]

If you have to re-write and re-shoot your movie because of "cultural changes" over the course of a year or two, then your movie was too far toward the edge of the socially acceptable window to begin with. Most movies from a century ago still fall within the acceptable window, even in times as insane as our own.

[@Fujtajblus]

Well, to be fair, if they would have a that full on Israeli outfit, I can see how that could anger certain group of people and boycot the movie result in loss of profits. Its like when GTA 3 was being developed and it was supposed to be New York but then got changed to a vague Liberty City after the terrorist attacks on September 11.

[@mattl8774]

Because Disney isn't a movie company. It's an activism machine pushing gay race politics. Been that way for a while now.

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

Casablanca still holds up. You can watch it with zero historical context and know the good guys from the bad guys from the might be a good guy but we don't know yet.

[@justinm2697]

@@Fujtajblus Since when is Disney/Marvel concerned with angering a certain group of people?

[@joshuacastle8055]

nno, the world needs to get a fucking grip. that would fix alot of problems

[@justalyx7952]

"You're not Steve Rogers"... "He's out of line, but he's right" - Roll Credits

[@brianaguilar8283]

*you’re

[@emanuel6693]

*you're

[@ihavethehighground732]

You’re

[@KAZVorpal]

@@ihavethehighground732 I came here to say "Apostrophe fail", but you guys have it covered!

[@KAZVorpal]

Hahaha...he edited it. Winning!

[@CorporalFriendlyShark]

I’m a time traveller who’s just come back from 2029. This movie failed its 30th test screening.

[@martian8987]

Why'd you come back?

[@leaDR356]

To save us from the torture.​@@martian8987

[@Kevin-tl1zs]

​@@martian8987 to tell us about it

[@Venefcus]

Would you want to stay in a timeline where they’re STILL trying to make this work?

[@NotAvailable-m3o]

Can you go to the timeline where Bucky is the next Cap?

[@official_man01]

Bucky makes more sense narratively to become the next Captain America. He's biologically younger than Sam Wilson, has the man out of time element that makes the character interesting, is a super soldier, and has had a complete character arc moving on from his time as The Winter Soldier. Going from Cap's sidekick, to a villain, to an anti-hero, and finally to the next Captain America would've been perfect.

[@amharbinger]

It could be worse, it could be The Snow White live action film.

[@saintniccage2818]

Still shitting red over a kids film?

[@kipwhite6532]

“Hold my beer.” ~Kevin Feige

[@thisismyname3928]

@@saintniccage2818 👆🏳‍🌈

[@PoolKid75]

Don't worry, Brett Cooper's rival version will get the bad taste out of our mouths.

[@Barrythebarnabas]

@@saintniccage2818still commenting on Drinkers videos being salty because you don’t have anything better going on in your life? Stay hating kiddo 😂

[@halley4032]

"There's only one Captain America ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."

[@Hiraghm]

That's true. The real Captain America wears an olive drab uniform decorated with every medal the US could come up with... and one borrowed from the French.

[@barrysmith4610]

I got that reference 😂

[@harbl99]

@@Hiraghm Audie Murphy? Nice reference.

[@richwalsh2239]

So you're saying that Sam Wilson didnt already become Captain America in Captain America vol.7 #25 in 2014??? Is that what you're saying?

[@bahumatneo]

Agreed. Matt Salinger.

[@thelittlehobbit4698]

That scene in The Winter Soldier were brainwashed Bucky takes the shield from Cap in the middle of the fight still haunts me to this day... Bucky should have been the one

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKGZmZunbamXnbc He was absolute menace!

[@hellkaiser2009]

You can tell at that point, the russo's knew what they were doing. Knew the canonical lore of him being the next captain america eventually and... fantastically tied it into a fucking slick "villain flex" AND a nod to that upcoming storyline. When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program. THIS was right on the back of a great chase scene where steve is literally fucking parkouring along internal walls and fucking steamrolling through wall/doors, reinforcing yet again in the movie. Steve is fucking JUICED because of the serum and almost beyond human. It's kinda fucking ruined by the tope of "Bad guy jumps off rooftop then disappears" which is funny but worn out. But the rest of that scene, was fucking awesome.

[@jdakiller1017]

​@@hellkaiser2009 that movie is by far my fav of the mcu right after the first iron man, such well done fight scenes all round and was just a really good movie overall

[@J1283-s1k]

@@hellkaiser2009 'When he straight up caught the shield and immediately stared steve down after he did it. Which up until then NOBODY had been able to do. Showing clearly, without any exposition. That it obviously wasn't just his arm that was enhanced as part of the winter soldier program.' Got chills reading this. Shame on the MCU for doing an utter bait and switch. Bucky held the shield in First Avenger, Winter Soldier and Civil War and would have been perfect given the Brubaker comic run, so what did they do? Gave it to Sam, of course.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I remember at the end of End Game everyone thought Cap was going to give the shield to Bucky. And when he gave it to Falcon, nobody clapped, nobody cheered. Instead there were audible gasps and a lot of people going huh, weird, why. One guy even shouted this is bs. Nobody in the audience liked that decision, which was proof enough that Disney did not care what their audience liked, only what message they wanted to push on them

[@AD-fh3vq]

As usual, you hit it on the head 100% bravo

[@byakugan2173]

Not to mention that Bucky is a supersoldier while falcon is just a dude

[@MrStagow]

This! How is he throwing the frisbee like the cap? are you kidding me?

[@sonnic1995]

@@MrStagow Let's say he can throw it... the real problem is when he takes it back mid air, the thing gains a lot of momentum that only a super soldier could stop it without getting his arm cut, that was like the big "Twist" when Bucky stopped the shield back on the Winter Soldier movie

[@geoffwheeler2994]

Bucky is also the obvious choice because he's actually a super soldier enhanced by the serum.

[@FirinMahLazer1]

The biggest problem with Bucky is he's not black or gay or a woman.

[@smbd1234]

​@@FirinMahLazer1 it is so sad how woke culture ruined everything

[@jeremytitus9519]

@@FirinMahLazer1 he can be if he chooses

[@exoticcarfactsofficialchan7050]

And a war hero. People forget that Bucky was an enlisted service member and WW2 veteran. And a POW. Like WTAF? The man is an American hero and they pass the mantle to captain "do better" GTFOH 😂😢

[@Volkaer]

100%

[@manguy01]

Marvel: _"Let's call it 'New World Order'"_ Me: _"That sounds evil and dystopian."_ Marvel: _"Then we'll call it 'Brave New World'"_ Aldous Huxley: _"Are you trying to tell us something?"_

[@VolvoImpala]

"Truly you can't polish a turd." Paul McCartney working on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer": Hold my beer.

[@SheldonAdama17]

I attended the test screening, I don’t know what everyone’s whining about. When Captain America, Aladdin and Jasmine started singing “A Brave New World”, the audience went into a standing ovation for twenty minutes and everybody cried. Truly stunning and brave.

[@DB-by9ev]

Shills

[@kabriii]

When they said: “It’s braving time!” and braved all over the place. Truly the height of cinema

[@Nurhaal]

Omfg lol

[@AcshualSnotski]

This is the best thread here.

[@HNedel]

@@DB-by9evsurely you mean „chills“

[@KeelanVance]

I believe it's funny that no one mentions the fact that Bucky, like Cap, is a super soldier, whereas Falcon is just a guy.

[@TheBelrick]

Are wpeople beginning to nosetice that they are being replaced EVERYWHERE? From culture to history to on the actual streets? Come on can we learn the appropriate emotional response yet to our own demise?

[@greebj]

He is imbued with the superpower of woke. Did you ever see Chris Evans cap dressing down a US Senator? Nope, I rest my case

[@113uineo]

Falcon,War machine are like filler characters

[@DaChunkil8or]

They will call us all rayyyycist🤷‍♂️

[@TheBelrick]

@@DaChunkil8or Better to be called ray cysts than extinct.

[@M.C.ThomasReviews]

Last time I was this early, Hulk was green and Cap was white

[@AllHopeIsLost1134]

DIVERSITY!!!

[@abemartinez9623]

😂😂😂😂

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Last time I was this early I knocked up your mum and then you were born. Sorry you had to find out this way son but how’ve you been?

[@thedarkemissary]

Red Lives Matter

[@raymondsmith2040]

Lol they even got a DEI hulk 😅

[@WmJFaust]

Wow! On the money critique regarding the selection of the new Captain America! Some in Hollywood really, need to see this commentary!! Outstanding!!!!

[@milothebest6165]

You are definitely right on Bucky! He definitely should have gotten the cap mantle! That would have made the story so much interesting! He’s really complex and tortured soul who’s been though a lot. The scenes with bucky trying to get over the past and move forward always get me teary. We are all a little broken trying to put the pieces back together.

[@Tuilelen]

Bucky is the best character in the MCU and I'll die on that hill. He's TOO good a character for the MCU, frankly. He should just get his own standalone movie at this point.

[@vanwilljamz]

Bucky, has super serum intense combat training and metal arm. Sam, human and “you’ve got to do better!” Yes let’s make Sam fight a hulk!

[@crazyralph6386]

In the trailer he’s flying around and busting shyte up like he’s Superman! 😂

[@mackychloe]

Don't forget his "Bird costume"

[@oXRaptorzXo]

He will probably take the serum

[@CYCLOPS1994]

​@@oXRaptorzXocope, He will be empowered by DEI

[@SOPHIA-LOVES-MEATBALLS-69]

Ah come. We need to see another BvS😂 Captain Falcon V Hulk: Dawn of the Justice 😂😂😂

[@jcmuscle123]

Marvel : should we hear the fans ? Let’s have Red hulk fight the real hulk finally ? Nah let’s go political and make Sam a super human just because

[@HumanHamCube]

Theee films are out of date the second they hit production. They greenlit all of these shows five years ago banking that certain elections would be won and that certain messaging would have been secured.

[@av2245]

DEI seems to encompass the practice of throwing all proven methods out of the window, and letting people with zero to little skill make all of the decisions. It is going to be the countries most expensive lesson.

[@eatyourveggies_]

Right? Did I miss him getting the soldier or something?

[@hellkaiser2009]

@@eatyourveggies_ Unless it happens during the film in some way? Which wouldn't surprise me AT ALL btw. Nope... So it's basically black widow all over again. /cue the scene where she falls off a fucking building, absolutely demolishing herself physically on the way down, hitting multiple objects like vents and stuff. Then lands on her fucking feet, and then proceeds to act like it's just a bit sore. I know, I know... similar happened in deadpool and wolverine with johnny storm, but you kinda give it a pass because it's a fucking comedy and you expect a bit of OTT slapstick. It was an obvious gag from start to finish and everyone was in on the joke. THIS however, is trying to be grounded a gritty, so Captain america: Winter soldier essentially in tone, but then they have him basically doing superhuman shit. I saw a few clever ideas in the trailer that LOOKED cool as fuck. But then you remember yet again, he's NOT superhuman. So it's not possible for him to do that and no suspension of disbelief will change that.

[@RivarohaT]

...just because he is black.

[@T51B1]

The whole MCU stopped when Tony Stark did the snap in End Game as far as I'm concerned.

[@cognitivedissidents4642]

Kevin Feige needs to get Matt Stone and Trey Parker on board to create "Captain Team America."

[@quickstep2408]

im surprised theyre not in trumps cabinet 😂

[@michaelelam9779]

Fuck Yeah!!! 👏🏼🇺🇸🥇🎉

[@louisduarte8763]

@@quickstep2408 Nah, they hate him too. Why do you think they turned Mr. Garrison into tRump during his 1st term?

[@louisduarte8763]

@@quickstep2408 No, they hate him too much. Remember during tRump's 1st term, South Park basically turned Mr. Garrison INTO that guy to satirize him.

[@garrettgoss2691]

​@@louisduarte8763to be completely fair to them, they hate all politicians and politics. They just want to keep the money they make, pay their employees, and not be told what they can and can't say or do

[@sarahdebardeleben1536]

Gives me .more respect for DC for pulling Batgirl from release.

[@TobiBurger-w2g]

Why what is wrong whith batgirl

[@Chaorchy]

Idk, everybody was saying batgirl was pretty well done. That's probably why they pulled it. 😂

[@dlewis9760]

@@TobiBurger-w2g Bing Search In other words, it's a business: Warner Bros. is set to save an estimated $15-20 million from shelving the DCEU movie Batgirl in tax write-offs1. The studio's plans to turn the $90 million spent on Batgirl into a tax write-off would make it illegal to release the movie2. By claiming the money they’ve already spent on Batgirl as a loss, Warner Bros. Discovery’s income on the year is reduced by that same amount3. The full cost of Batgirl's production expenses can be claimed as a part of what Deadline reports is a total of $825 million attributed to "Content impairments and development write-offs"45. Learn more:

[@ChristiaanHW]

@@TobiBurger-w2g there's nothing wrong with batgirl. but everything was wrong with the film they were going to make that they wanted to slap the batgirl brand on. at least they understood that the people who will need to buy tickets to see the movie weren't interested in a movie promoting a certain message instead of being about the things the comics were. so they decided to trow the whole movie into the bin, instead of making a(n even bigger) fool of themselves by having it hit the theaters and becoming another flop, while also destroying the batgirl brand for at least a generation.

[@John-fk2ky]

@@Chaorchy unless you were on the production team, you literally can’t know if it was done well. No one ever saw the film, and all copies were deleted. And, no, a movie that deliberately race-swaps the lead is by definition not well done.

[@Fulgrim2]

I got nothing against Falcon but he’s just not Captain America, I’m sorry.

[@BIGARMADA1988]

He was fine as Falcon, never needed to be a tokenized version of Captian America.

[@TruthisHere78]

They literally say he's not Steve Roger's. He wasn't even the first choice. I just want to see a good movie man. People are taking stuff way to seriously.

[@tiktokviral6218]

@@BIGARMADA1988yep

[@BIGARMADA1988]

@@TruthisHere78 Yet the movie is called "Captain America" not "Falcon." And you wonder why people are not going to the movies in droves like they used too. People aren't falling for the okey doke anymore when it comes to these movies.

[@mattmartin6493]

He was awesome as Falcon shouldve just left it that way and let Bucky be Cap the redemption arc could've been amazing but no cancerous slop instead.

[@Telecasterland]

Marvel looks at comics that failed. Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel, Falcon as Caption America and goes lets DO THAT!

[@bookwyrm247]

Along with all the excellent points why Bucky would have made a more logical choice for successor, is the fact that he also was dosed with the super soldier serum. So he’s like Cap in strength and indestructibility. Sam simply isn’t; he’s a human who never had super powers. But just like Black Widow, they’re forgetting that and going to have him do unrealistic stuff anyway.

[@TobiBurger-w2g]

Not really the winter soldier did terrible things when he was brainwashed that’s why he ain’t the new cap

[@DeMan59]

At least Black Widow was trained to use multiple marshal arts and assassin techniques. Sam was just a regular soldier. A grunt.

[@gnw_AstA]

A Captain America who contends with the blood of his hands while living up to the legacy of the previous one would make for a far more compelling story than whatever this is and you’re not convincing me otherwise.

[@pbsuite]

You do know he has a super suit right , iron man is also just a dude and not superhuman.

[@thisisfyne]

This is kinda sad, because Captain America: Winter Soldier is actually the movie that got me into the MCU. Aside from Iron Man, I thought most of it was shlock, but that first Russo Bros movie totally changed my mind on the quality that these movies could have. Who could have thought that 10 years later, the franchise would be nothing but a shell of it's former self, waaay past its high point both in terms of quality and audience interest.

[@hellkaiser2009]

I think everyone recognises just how damned fucking slick and well written winter soldier was. By no means the greatest thing to ever be made, but for a fucking cape flick? By fuck it was a damn good spy thriller first with some cool superhero shit as flavour. Same with Logan really.

[@johnnyparkinsons]

Such a shame they didn’t continue with the grittier, darker vibe of the early mcu instead of what it became.

[@kimberly8266]

Dei is killing it.

[@GH-ub7qz]

they also did decent with the mini stories in the heros of new york daredevil and punisher best of the 5

[@johnnyparkinsons]

@@GH-ub7qz very true, the netflix shows were great. It’s amazing what marvel can accomplish when they’re not trying to saturate your ear canal with cheesy jokes and one liners.

[@claytonmorris9040]

So basically, it’s a two hour movie where falcon cosplay as Captain America

[@TheBelrick]

No, it is a movie where an N is portraying a W. Hollywood has done this since the beginning.

[@DarkMaster6]

@@TheBelrick Be careful, your racism is showing...

[@MadPaperMario]

@@TheBelrick Bro is definetly racist calling a black guy an N is crazy

[@DarkMaster6]

@@TheBelrick Has done what done since the beginning exactly?

[@TheBelrick]

@@DarkMaster6 cast n actors to play w characters. Hollywood has never allowed n to be shown natively. Luckily for our gen we have tik tok which shows their true natures.

[@nearlyrighteouslad3213]

Why is A-Train holding Captain America's shield in the thumbnail

[@xManzi]

Man, can't wait to watch Captain America: Brave New Reshoot...

[@Zetirix]

That sounds like the "adults-only" parody currently in production.

[@xManzi]

@Zetirix and it would probably be filmed with higher quality and better written story than what current "writers" in Hollywood can come up with 🤣

[@yogi30303]

Haha nice one😂

[@InfamousSwoosh]

i remember when falcon and the winter soldier was over, it was announced the same writer and director would be making the fourth movie and i immediately cringed and knew we were in for it and it wouldnt be good. sometimes i hate being right about Marvel

[@schreursalain2968]

It's not just Marvel. I believe that people are also getting tired of all the superhero stuff that studio's keep pushing out even while they're out of original idea's and are trying hard to push some kind of message into their crap. The last 5 movies i've seen i practically knew the plot and the ending within the first 5 minutes. Take wolfs as an example, i knew within a few minutes in the hotel scene it was a setup. If writers have no original idea's, and some 'community' tries to push an agenda through, and the studio's try to please everyone, you know it's going to be bad. Hubris. And that always ends the same way.

[@Volkaer]

@@schreursalain2968 People aren't tired of superhero stuff. People are tired of slop pushing "the message", because those fillms end up being inconsistent to their own lore, unimmersive, unentertaining, deny common sense, and destroy everything that associated franchises have built up. I would love to have a Falcon movie. I would love to have another old school Ironman movie (though not sure how that would fit in since they gave Tony Stark a very heroic death - so that's a really hard one). I would love another Dr. Strange movie, or Spiderman movie - but DONE WELL, and done without trying to push cultural Marxism onto me.

[@acethetitle]

First Swoozie in the comment section of the Nerdrotic "Joker 2" review, then Maaz in every YTmusician and now you here, under the Critikal Drinker ?!?!?! LOL !!! I love seeing random KZbinrs in other's comment sections. Who is next ? Brody under Haminations !!!

[@blues05]

​@@schreursalain2968People are tired of woke corporate pushing blacks into every popular medium. People are tired of anti-white. People are tired of lgbtq+++.

[@ShootEvrythg]

From a production standpoint, the biggest problem with Falcon as Cap is his wings. His ability to fly makes the sky his battlefield and that balloons the budget, whereas Cap was literally grounded so they could do a lot of practical fight scenes like the elevator fight or the staircase fight.

[@Longdick805]

If your dumb you get best of both worlds he can’t fight on ground or sky he has versatility that cap didn’t have just a less version on hulk lol 😂

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Probably they should give him a aqualung so that he can fight underwater too.🤣

[@artofmartialcinemaamc5334]

I agree on this, definitely a valid criticism of him as Cap & in fact the most valid one I've heard. This is why it would have been awesome to see Bucky as Captain America. Hopefully they can still give Bucky a chance to clear his name publicly because it still views him as a terrorist in the MCU.

[@kenny4957]

also the shield is useless for him since his wings can act as a shield. in the show they had to make some new fighting moves that incorporate both the shield and the wings

[@lordofhousestewart1821]

yep good point...much more cgi used which is expensive

[@tnwhiskey68]

Loki is one of the few left who could carry a major movie!

[@GIBBO4182]

They’ve apparently filmed the *whole movie* twice!! No wonder the budget is outrageous

[@lJ0blixen]

3 times

[@marcogenovesi8570]

three times, pushing on 4

[@swankypants6227]

Reportedly will be shooting a fifth time

[@crazyralph6386]

God, they’re utterly useless

[@tevinngeleshi9297]

Why not dump the movie?? Why waste time on a project that is clueless?? Are Marvel becoming new LucasFilms??

[@Wolffman109]

Building off of your (correct) comments about Bucky deserving Captain America's shield and mantle, the original title "New World Order" would've fit the Bucky espionage thing PERFECTLY, because that was a common slogan used by HYDRA during World War 2 and the modern day, and Winter Soldier was HYDRA's top assassin, which connects everything back to Bucky BEAUTIFULLY.

[@G.D.G.]

The shield grab, the arm, the serum, the name... there is NO WAY they didnt kick out Bucky in the last second. He was perfect for the role.

[@shidtard6541]

No he was not i don't think the captain America symbol should be handed to a dude that (while not intentionally) murdered countless people and was noticeably unstable falcon becoming captain America makes way more sence and it ain't "the message" like this lunatic says pick up a comic.

[@olafgurke4699]

@@shidtard6541 Calling the drinker a lunatic to discredit all criticism is pure textbook. Really classy there, my guy. Next time, try to make your point without insulting others, yeah?

[@burntnic]

​@@shidtard6541it literally doesn't make sense for Bucky to be cap.international assassin and they want to turn him into Americas golden boy

[@Wolffman109]

@@shidtard6541 You mean the comic that was cancelled after being critically panned and barely sold.

[@ninjapirate47]

Mackie must be making bank with all those reshoots.

[@sephalon1]

Reshoots are generally part of the original contract. So he's probably making nothing.

[@Mister_Know_Name]

He's gonna lose his career with this one.

[@boogaboogaboogaable]

​@@sephalon1Correct. This is killing him financially. More work for the same money and no chance for money on the back end.

[@SkylineSagas]

*Nope.. Contract is a contract. He already got paid.. Now he has to obey until release..*

[@brandonhelcher3691]

Almost pity him.

[@denisemckinney3973]

Thank you for saying what we all are thinking. We all miss the old MCU.

[@rmj8905]

I don't. I like DC.

[@justinrodriguez5957]

I just don't understand why they couldn't just leave Falcon as just Falcon. The character could already stand on its own so why make him derivative? As for Bucky, yeah pretty much.

[@avarion9538]

Having him being Captain America not just destroys Falcon, it's also a downgrade for Captain America, because Falcon is much weaker than the original Captain America. He is no super soldier.

[@GeromeSmith-me9im]

Bro be honest. No one was asking for a falcon film. He is literally just some guy with wings.

[@emmanuelogunlana877]

​@@GeromeSmith-me9imHmm, do you speak for everyone?

[@ZanderCageF50]

@@GeromeSmith-me9im Mackie also has the charisma of a potato

[@GeromeSmith-me9im]

@@emmanuelogunlana877 I speak for The majority. Falcon not a popular character.

[@brockdavid]

Comrade Amerika: Fahrenheit 451. (I’m calling it now, Red Hulk is gonna be an obnoxiously clumsy allegory for the Orange Man.)

[@SteveKilgore27]

I hope so… because then this movie will fail. Marvel thinks their best strategy is to insult the average American.

[@The-Khandor-of-Kalakuta]

I think that's what the reshoots are all about, they were probably hedging their bets on a Harris victory and didn't realize how much of the country thought otherwise

[@cattysplat]

@@The-Khandor-of-Kalakuta Imagine putting TDS in your movie when most of the country love the guy.

[@captaincomic8678]

@@cattysplat​​⁠​​⁠ I mean, the dude’s objectively evil, makes sense to make your fictional villain an allegory for a real-life one.

[@SavageJarJar]

@@captaincomic8678’objectively’ evil? I wouldn’t say so, unless you mean the point that all of humanity is morally corrupt. But you don’t mean that. I wouldn’t say Joe or Barac’ are ‘objectively’ evil, because it isn’t objective. Whose standard are we going off of for evil? Yours?

[@-Azure.EXE-]

Production Hell: Captain America, Brave New World

[@maxmazzotti6651]

That would be a good video for drinker to do in the future!

[@Wolffman109]

I support.

[@Wolfcorner]

Before 2020 we had Avengers with Thanos snapping his fingers, now before 2025 we have Captain America: New World Order... Oh, they changed the title?

[@Jimmie2429]

Captain America IV - You Can't Polish a Turd

[@iamme4494]

That’s racist

[@Starlesslight]

Actually, Mythbusters proved otherwise.

[@d1grizz]

@@iamme4494 Please explain how a polished turd is racist.

[@raymondsmith2040]

​@d1grizz i think he's joking

[@ohpeep3723]

😂😂😂

[@SourRobo8364]

Deadpool: It's just be miss, after miss, after miss. Let's just take the L and move on.

[@Shitposting_IHMN]

Same deadpool: Fails to do any basic storytelling

[@jordanblackmon-re7qp]

@@Shitposting_IHMNStrangely enough it works with his character.

[@Shitposting_IHMN]

@@jordanblackmon-re7qp it doesn't. Watch a good movie or read a single comic with him, then cry about it grifters

[@mitchell7309]

@@jordanblackmon-re7qp yeah the lack of story actually makes sense for Deadpool, it’s a comedy

[@jordanblackmon-re7qp]

@@mitchell7309 You actually can believe that you’re reading a Deadpool comic.

[@deewills353]

Anthony Mackie is an ok actor,but just ok.He's not a lead,he doesnt have much range,he sorta just plays himself & always looks the same no matter what movie,same haircut.same goatee.

[@official_man01]

He's a decent actor but I'd blame the writing for his character not making him that interesting. The Falcon is nobody's favorite superhero and was written in the MCU as a generic modern day military guy for Steve to bounce off of.

[@mikko-of6cu]

He's a decent enough actor, but he's not the guy that will dig you out of a 400 million dollar hole.

[@laurocoman]

He was an OK villain in 8 Mile, in those 4 scenes he was in. He is just OK in anything.

[@masterace9543]

​@@laurocomanWtf I forgot about that 😂

[@MichaelPohoreski]

He was in season 2 of _Altered Carbon._ I don’t know if it was the script or what but he was SO bland. Chris Conner (as Poe) stole the entire 2nd season.

[@iknownothingwillingtolearn]

5:00 and Bucky is a super soldier just like cap was. Falcon is just a man so him throwing that shield as good as cap is just bs.

[@lostree1981]

The Winter Soldier isn't a super soldier. He is just a guy with a metal arm. Spot the guy who never read the comics... or paid attention to the movies either apparently. At no point in any version of his character has he had super powers.

[@zazzblammywazazz2020]

@@lostree1981 I'm going to tell you something that you should have learned a long time ago. It doesn't matter if you are correct, if you are being an asshole, nobody will give you the pleasure of being correct.

[@iknownothingwillingtolearn]

@gavinpowell4607 Red skull experimented on him, he was the only one survived. When he fell from the train that high, do you think if he was still a normal human he would survive that. It was never said he was a super soldier but it makes you think. And the MCU isn't the comics. "Spot the guy blablabla." Comming to conclusions quick, sad. Then even if he isnt he still has his arm and would be better at throwing the shield then falcon would. And in the mcu he isnt a super soldier either.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​​​@@lostree1981In the MCU he is never explicitly confirmed to be a super soldier, but he has been experimented on by Hydra and his feats prove he's definitely not just a WW2 soldier with a metal arm. I think it's fair to say that he's a super soldier.

[@kentuckyfriedjews88]

​@StardustLegacyFighter Given the feats he's displayed, he's definitely a super soldier, serum or otherwise.

[@frostyfilmwatcher2148]

Marvel at this point needs to learn to take the L.

[@Leo___________]

The sheer hubris of thinking that you could somehow just keep on producing billion dollar box office hits.

[@webbedshadow2601]

Disney seriously needs to go away at this point. All they do is release corporate garbage. completely ruined Marvel and Star Wars. Made live action remakes and unnecessary sequels to animated films. soulless crap nobody asked for anything they'll make anything but what the fans want and they still haven't gone bankrupt yet because Endgame made a billion dollars...

[@DVankeuren]

Well, they could if they actually made what the fans like.

[@harrambou9468]

I mean…it’s not that they can’t, it’s that they’re hardly trying and they’re not self-aware about it at all. I try not to hate because a lot of the new stuff is still cool…but all these reshoots? C’mon guys. Get it together. Maybe cross off a few project names on the list to make some time for the important ones? Yeah? No…?

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

I honestly think while Deadpool Wolverine was great, a lot of people showed up to support Ryan and Hugh, it's why I saw it in theaters twice, I loved it, but I also went to support them

[@theoverunderthinker]

they thing is ... they could have. but they couldn't do it while also promoting the message.....

[@peterd.meredith3580]

What gets me is the idea that a fairly normal dude (even with all the 'Vibrainium' Gagets) is going to be able to stand up to a 'Hulk'.

[@thedarkknight1971]

IT'S the little things like, Sam 'No powers' Wilson fighting Red Hulk... REALLY? Even THE REAL CAPTAIN AMERICA thought twice about tackling 'The Green Beastie'. Yeah, Sam's got the shield, but HE AINT GOT THE STRENGTH OR "I could go all day" STAMINA !!! - In short... "NO! YOU'VE GOT TO DO BETTER MARVEL!' 🤨 😎🇬🇧

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

Even Steve Rogers should be unable to fight Hulks, it's out of his realm of power. Falcon, without the serum, should be dead in a second.

[@thedarkknight1971]

@MakeYouFeelBetterNow Yeah, that's why I said that even Steve would think twice about 'Tackling' the Hulk. As strong, quick, and relentless Steve is, the Hulk only gets stronger with more rage. So, 'A punt human' like Sam? Hahaha no freaking chance! Hahaha

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

@@thedarkknight1971 Yeah I agree with you. One of the things I always loved about Captain was he was still only human, but would try to go head to head with Loki, even knowing he would fail. Unfortunately, with every movie they made him more and more powerful over time. Sam is just a normal guy though, how he is using the shield to destroy missiles is insane.

[@KyrieEleiso_n]

Then again though he does have vibranium wings so who knows if this cap might just cut red hulks hand off who knows

[@fireboltaz]

Red Hulk is MAGA Hulk

[@Fledermausmann]

I remember the reason I completely dropped out of the Marvel Subreddit was because, among other things, I pointed out that Bucky Barnes was the absolute perfect choice to become Cap's successor, for most of the reasons the Drinker laid out in the video but also because they had spent years building towards it (before the Falcon tv series). I mean it wasn't so much an easy lay-up as a complete slam dunk. But no! They had to go with Budget Basement Will Smith and his attempts at snark. I'm likely not going to watch this movie but I will enjoy watching the critics absolutely blast this movie to the ground. Oh and fun fact, there is a possibility this movie does make it to the record books though. At a minimum cost of 375 million USD, Cap 4 would be somewhere near the top 5 most expensive movies ever made. Presuming it earns a fairly respectable 400 million USD world wide, it would go down in history as one of, not the absolute, biggest flops in cinema... So congratulations, I guess? Lastly, let's also remember that not only is Red Hulk the main antagonist, he's played by a jaded octogenarian Harrison Ford, who (probably) wants nothing more than to finally get a good night's sleep and not having to get up every 3 hours to pee. Yeah this is going to be a complete shitshow.

[@rogerborg]

I'm astonished that you weren't yeeted out for literally genociding George Flied.

[@hellkaiser2009]

I can just imagine the writers room, with some absolutely fed up exec who has been crunching the numbers and lost 10 years off his lifespan. Primarily due to stress of it all. Screaming at them: "Once again, I am not gonna point fingers. But I am asking you all ONE more time. Please... for the love of all that is fucking holy, stop with the not so subtle political statements you absolute fucking morons! YOU LOST"

[@c3bhm]

Reddit has become utterly useless, sadly. 10 years ago it had so much potential, but now it's a wretched hive of toxic cultish leftism.

[@Tarquin2718]

respectable 400 million USD? respectable = break even? would be 2.5*Production cost

[@Volkaer]

@@rogerborg George Kirby was just trying to become Lucy...

[@DOOMStudios]

Can’t wait for the part where the general tells Sam saying: “You are not brave in this new world Sam.”

[@asv520]

lmao 😂

[@hellkaiser2009]

"Oh yeah Mr Tr.... Ross... Well I won't stand by while you enact your new world order. You big red monster!"

[@BlackDeath920]

Falcon does become the new captain america in the comics btw.

[@kevinoneil5120]

Plus, you know, Bucky Barnes is a *super soldier*; an important prerequisite to being able to use that shield as a weapon...

[@lostree1981]

He is not a super soldier. He never got any serum or super powers. He survived to modern times by being frozen repeatedly until needed. He just has a slightly strong metal arm.

[@gargleme5544]

Sam can fly tht makes him 10 times better

[@alexstergiou247]

"Can't wait to see white Blade."

[@rpmgrlca]

😂😂😂

[@kipwhite6532]

We

[@jaredchristie8882]

I heard he/she blade is next?

[@matthewbooth9265]

exactly! Either it's all ok or none of it is ok. Just you know, write good new black characters like Blade etc. Anyway I do like the new green witch in wicked with the flat nose and big nostrils.

[@saintniccage2818]

@@matthewbooth9265 so black bond confirmed?

[@general.kenorbi]

5:23 i‘m still salty about the thrown away potential of bucky

[@cph5811]

Unfortunately he is white though. Sooo, expendable obviously.

[@EricFrey-o2s]

As am I.

[@Wolffman109]

We all are.

[@durrell1981]

Exactly

[@nowaaaaaaayyy]

You need to come out swinging with these reboots. Not only will we brutaly compare it to the original, but we will already start out pre-bored because we already experienced it once.

[@SupaFlyJedi]

Marvel for the last few years has been the personification of the Principal Skinner meme: "Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are wrong,"

[@rabronin]

And they're going to keep thinking that way 😂

[@DaMerk5]

Bucky Barnes was never going to become Captain America because he has the wrong skin color...that's about the amount of thought they put into this stuff now

[@StuartHetzler]

so simple and so correct.

[@sauronthegreat5799]

Yes. They should’ve made him Asian. At least his super power is his intelligence like Tony Stark.

[@paulw5039]

I think it was over no matter who they made cap. Cap is inextricably linked to Steve Rogers in most people's minds, no matter how much they say "but in the comics" and such. Steve Rogers got old, retired. The end. Realistically no coming back from that.

[@salesafalesene1077]

Yeah coz he is the Winter Soldier, is there a new name for bucky in the making?

[@Supreme2k]

Are you guys out of your racist minds?? Cap always had a good rapport with Sam that he couldn't get back once Bucky became the Winter soldier. Steve and Sam have an even stronger bond in the comic, and there was a whole Arc about why Bucky didn't want to be Captain America. If you really need someone to blame, blame Chris Evans for bailing on the character.

[@tomace4677]

It's amazing to me how Marvel developed a brand long enough to make it a money printing machine and then promptly forgot how the machine worked.

[@jimyoung9262]

Kind of a metaphor for western culture

[@tomace4677]

@@jimyoung9262 True, but unlike Marvel I think Western Culture is on the rebound.

[@kkokay4]

Hopefully. Its been declining for a very long time​@@tomace4677

[@EmperorEidolon]

A Captain America movie without Captain America, made by a company that HATES America, and calls its audience racists and bigots, is not a movie that's getting a dime from me. Woke garbage.

[@aldunlop4622]

Promptly shoved a spanner in the works...

[@ascensionbias7528]

This will go straight to VCR.

[@buddapest3437]

That's going to be a thing to say

[@Dakid015]

Wow, not even good enough for DVD. That says a lot.

[@ascensionbias7528]

You'll be able to get in the bargain bin for a $5 two-fer that comes with 'Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood.'

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

Kids, a VCR is a big rectangular box that has to hook up to a tv to play movies 😅

[@margaretcronin4972]

Mr Reed was the spitting image of my father...who was also crazy like Oliver..great thumbnail

[@Noarules]

I have absolutely no desire to see any marvel films next year