Trailmaster MB200 Governor Removal & Test

[@bwizzledirtbike1268]

Love your builds!!! It drives me nuts when the engines are dirty...

[@peytonthomas4506]

Thanks for more advice in setting valves

[@thinkandrepent3175]

You're the man Red Beard. Thanks for your videos!

[@MattFaust]

For anyone who tries this with the heavier springs, there is only 1 lash cap on the exhaust spring, the intake side does NOT have a lash cap... Spent like 2 hours tearing everything down looking for it until I finally verified only the exhaust side has one!

[@BigVanLittleAdventures]

I'm watching this video to verify that myself. I was turning my garage upside down, looking for it.

[@fan1701]

Excellent. Love the engine builds! I like that throttle mod much better than having to relocate the gas tank with the GPS throttle plates.

[@charliebellflower2536]

Cool. I can't wait to have everything that I need to build mine. I hope it will be done by the next meet up

[@andyyates2807]

why didn't you use anti seize on the spark plug

[@jimmiller2767]

Best video I've seen so far on this. Very detailed thank you!

[@michaeljbaker3492]

Good video! Liked the addition of the drone footage too :)

[@sabrom]

Always learning something from the channel thanks Red!

[@nickthecarguy-channel]

I want to remove the governor and do springs on my go kart, do you need to pull the flywheel?

[@fan1701]

No, you don't pull the flywheel for that.

[@FattyDoveRacing]

nick the car guy no

[@Tennessee_Jon]

Only thing I’d done differently is completely build it so 1 time in and done. But kinda wish trailmaster would utilize the fake tank and turn it into a functional fuel tank.

[@karlg1535]

It's fun doing the little upgrades on the way, I have a ct200u, got the stage 1 kit & reversed my clutch, ran one chain and it was insanely quick, but no top end. then removed the gov & put in the 18lb vsprings & shes a killer but I blow through clutches in two weeks or less so now I'm getting a TC

[@Kdog307]

love the video and its a 1/4 bolt or what to block off the holes after governor removal ?

[@Lo_Deez]

Bro ive learned sooo much.. from ya channel.. thanks to infinity

[@donaldchastain6847]

After buying the bike and all the parts you put on the bike when you finished it how much money do you have thank you have wrapped up in it

[@TruckingTruth]

Wondering if you might be able to help. I did the governor removal and now it doesn't fire.

[@FourDollaRacing]

A governor increases RPM. The system is specifically designed for times when a small engine experiences a load, because lawn and garden equipment is run at a constant throttle setting.

[@Edgar-and-Wrench]

fabricate front disc brakes and ill love you forever. no homo though lol

[@TheDuckumz]

They redesign the torque converters with bearings instead of the brass bushings?

[@jwalkerftw]

Is it the same for the Massimo Warrior 200?

[@Lo_Deez]

Ive done billet rod, flywheel, and cam.. what next better header or piston??

[@meco72104]

Cool mini bike, Can you get street tires for them, to convert them to a street legal bike?

[@markmiddleton1098]

Whats your thoughts on putting a v twin predetor engine on one and can you give me a list of performance parts and a good site to get parts please

[@Free2KYT]

Can u do a video about the predator drag cam

[@joimprove]

Did you replace the gasket on the crankcase cover? If so can you send the link for it

[@aaronwhatnot6064]

When will there be another street legal mini bike ep?

[@samsgarage1716]

That’s fast and looks like a lot of fun

[@charlesthurston5172]

my off-road lawn tractor slightly opens on the intake side after it pulls fuel in, should i be worried? or is it Ok. i havent had any flare ups from the carburetor just puffs of i guess vapors

[@thomastaylor6511]

when did you remove the throttle stop screw

[@rileysmith8539]

This will work on the mb200 warrior correct?? The one without shocks

[@sevenforce198]

Hey red I have a question. I'm having some metallic clicking while I ride my mb200 and when I let off the gas. Any idea what is going on? Any help would be appreciated.

[@mof4104]

loose gas tank, chain too tight/loose? Try the gas tank bolts first.

[@sevenforce198]

@@mof4104 thank you I'll try that soon.

[@capthwdy08]

I just got a trailmaster like yours and either the shaft or the cvt pulley is making a whining noise i looked at the cvt pulley and it has crack's in it what could cause that? this is a new bike just got it a few months back any info/help would be greatly appreciated

[@hirningt1010]

Man I finished all of the internals and when it came to the linkage to the carb valve, I'm stuck, thinking about using a cloths hanger. Any suggestions? Tried your shape on the original linkage but I dont have a vice and it did not bend well.

[@Matt-yp4yb]

Video helps a lot thanks!

[@rebelwraith8138]

Hey Red Beard. I'd like to see you get a Falcon mini bike and review it.

[@allamerican7830]

How do you like that Everlast welder?

[@sanesaint8725]

It goes 40 miles an hour depending on a person riding it I seen one dude hit 43 on it

[@psychologicalsigma9917]

Mine does with the gov (stage 1 mods, and torque kit)

[@TEXASpatriot76]

I have a stupid question. I have a 224 predator with a governor the mini bike as it sits stock motor it runs 42mph I also have another mini bike with 224 governor removed and it goes 42.8 mph. What's yalls opinion of why remove the governor if there's no gain? Or is it just mine that don't gain from it???

[@190dopey]

Does a regular 30 series cvt work on the 224?

[@jackmehoff2961]

I think next time you work on a engine, you should hose it off before taking off bike. How about a propane (& propane accessories lol) powered engine ???

[@sracoma87]

Bought a massimo warrior from Home Depot are these the same mb200 motor????

[@Umadbro681]

do i really have to remove it though? Can't i just adjust the governor to get faster speeds while still keeping a lid on top RPMS as to not kill my engine? Would love some help from anyone on this.

[@maxguida3070]

Does it come with the torque converter?

[@aaronsimone1142]

hey so ive messed with those torque converters on various trail masters and set up its no that the governor dont work its the fact that even thought you removed the gov the torque converter set up can only spin so many rpms usually with your set up and gear ratios before the drag wont spin any faster compared to a clutch where they just spin to the heavens lol have a lot too do with how much rpm you'll be able to get out of your engine. You can change your rear sprocket to a larger sprocket you'll get more acceleration and more rpms out of the engine but about same top end because your torque set up will spin more rpms with a bigger sproket gear compared to the smaller. i have a 196c with black mamba cam ported head all the goodies 60 tooth rear 8 tooth on the converter and it will only rev to about 5200 or so with me on it But im 350 pounds and the torque converter and this is ungoverned. When i had it to the setup and power levels your at now the rpms would go to about 3600-4200 even with the governor removed. PS i love your videos it got me back into to mini bike i love my trail master going to be putting a electric start and other things and try to get it road legal in Michigan Nothing more fun then poping and holding wheelies when its a 350 pound man on the bike i love the looks lol.

[@Deucealive75]

Exactly. They need better gearing.

[@bobfrapples4146]

If only you knew punctuation....

[@mikecelaya1]

Hey I have a trailmaster cheetah with a stage 1 kit on it now. So is it not worth it to remove the governor and do the 18 pound valve springs? It looks like a ton of work and if doesn't increase the top speed why bother? Should I try a bigger sprocket first?

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

Any chance of showing how to adjust the governor for more rpm's but not remove or disable it...

[@gomher9145]

Add a stronger governor spring

[@alexbroadway2324]

kool video but yall have done this same stuff on other mini bikes I want to see the finish to the street legal mini bike build!

[@sethtighe1]

Yes please

[@ttreat16]

Please do a governor removal on the 200ex

[@davinkeittfishingd.k.frebu1393]

Do you have take the value springs off if I take the governor off a 212

[@sawyerbennett8227]

I have a honda clone very similar to the predator 6.5 but oil is shooting out of the valve cover breather did the breather fail? If so do I replace or is there another way I can't find fonda new valve cover identical to mine anywhere this engine is very hard to find parts for

[@willgibbs3632]

Sawyer Bennett I think you might have put to much oil in the motor

[@evanlewis2095]

Where did you get the piston stop tool

[@LuchMobGarage]

Loving it bud thanks for the edumacation need some turn signals?? 🤘🏻🐿🤘🏻LuchMob

[@peytonthomas4506]

Hey I recently did a 18lbs valve spring upgrade on my Coleman and it won’t crank over and is super hard to pull I made sure of it was at top dead center when I did the mod? Have any suggestions on what the problem is?

[@wafercopenhafer8536]

You might have set the valve lash on the compression release on the exhaust valve. Try turning your engine over and watch to make sure the valve lash doesnt exceed .003 on your exhaust valve.

[@peytonthomas4506]

Wafer Copenhafer it does exceed .003 when I turn the engine on the exhaust side

[@wafercopenhafer8536]

@@peytonthomas4506 i would fix that. Might be the root of your problem.

[@peytonthomas4506]

Wafer Copenhafer Ok, thanks for the help.

[@wafercopenhafer8536]

@@peytonthomas4506 sure glad i could. Hope that works

[@kateguyotte356]

Anyone on this thread know if the tools used on this bike are metric or standard ? I have one being shipped to me on Monday and wanted to have the right tools for it.

[@victorreyes1010]

You didn't have to tap the governor holes?

[@strokerace306]

Should have had that motor cleaned to work on it lol 👍 great videos

[@jackmehoff2961]

That`s what I suggested. I`d like to see a propane powered engine.

[@tommybrumfield9062]

I KNOW IT WAS THE SAME TOP SPEED BUT DID IT GET TO THE TOP SPEED FASTER?? WHAT WAS THE TIMES ON GETTING TO THE TOP SPEED

[@Deucealive75]

What makes you think it should get to top speed faster? Governor removal and 18 lb springs do not add power. Especially when the engine never turns the extra RPM where the extra power may be. In this case the 18 lb springs rob a sliver of power because it takes more power to open a valve with an 18 lb spring than a valve with a 10 lb spring. Their work was a waste of time and I'm sure they learned their lesson. Hopefully the viewers of this video learned from it also. The work they did here would work great with a clutch, but is a waste of time with a torque converter unless you make dramatic gearing changes at the same time or re gear as the next step.

[@jaymartin3945]

The loud music is painful. Some music for background is ok but who wants to have to listen to loud crap music when they are trying to learn something. Otherwise good informational video. Sad that one has to do so much just to remove a governor. Do they have an option to buy without a governor? Thanks.

[@Gräsklipparmarodören]

ok, interesting that it doesnt want to rev more.. seems to be gearing up too fast.. tweaking the cvt could be a thing, maybe a little bit lighter weigths to help it maintain a higher rpm. i usually just slap a bigger carb on. most of the time it works great

[@mlindsay527]

It needs stronger CVT springs to raise the engagement RPMs. This should be one of the first mods. Only costs $15 or so and makes a world of difference!

[@acoelho001973]

It’s all good

[@solo9883]

Next video mb200 governor replacement

[@saavedravideos258]

Can someone please explain to me what the 18 pound valve springs even do

[@gomher9145]

google (valve float) I don't think it was needed in this application

[@fatdadwithtats1849]

Nice

[@kylejoslin5081]

You guys should make a go-kart out of wood

[@sanesaint8725]

I seen a video where all he did was put a bigger back sprocket and took off fast but I don't know what the top speed was I think it's good factory Athens 40 depending on who's riding it

[@willbrooks1356]

music seems to loud, its distracting from ur awesomeness. thank you all

[@jetfly3053]

Yo where’s ur location I need my bike done can u help ?

[@RedBeardsGarage]

We don't work on peoples projects.

[@jetfly3053]

Can u tell me where I need to go

[@jodyatarcracing9112]

Soap + Water = Clean engine lol

[@arizonajames6131]

Please people stop complaining about him not cleaning anything before he works on it. I'm pretty sure some kind of sponsor sent him a bucket of a bunch of bullcrap to clean off equipment with without having to use a pressure washer. Let me think about that. Yes someone did give him a magic bucket to really clean stuff great without using a lot of water. Wonder what happened to that!? Seems kind of suspicious

[@thelifeoftravisferrell8238]

how do i make my mini bike faster i n a cheap maner

[@dobilaarafat83]

Je veux ton aide comment te contacter ?

[@mlindsay527]

Change the springs in the CVT!

[@Deucealive75]

And gearing.

[@pitbikecookracing3324]

Wow

[@justin_1848]

I removed my govenor and the throttle got stuck

[@jimmiller2767]

Just a little confused on throttle arm .

[@jackey2681]

RBG And carsandcameras collab??

[@rubydacherry5731]

Where’s the trophy truck

[@PowerBandGarage]

U ever thought about making lonnie a channel to do behind the scenes an stuff maybe if he get enough people on his channel he could go full time with you

[@3210gatorbite]

Hey bud anyway that I can pick your brain for a little bit? I need your expertise. I've tried everywhere else and they can't help me.

[@ivansantiesteban4094]

Does it seem slow or is it just me??

[@chelseabronkie7338]

Didn't install the right valve cap

[@chelseabronkie7338]

Only one was installed

[@jackmehoff2961]

I was looking at all the dirt waiting to jump in.

[@charliebellflower2536]

He didn't video putting everything on

[@RedBeardsGarage]

No hemi heads only have one on the exhaust valve

[@wafercopenhafer8536]

On most of those engines there is only a lash cap on the exhaust valve. On intake valve lash is set against the valve itself.

[@Orbacron]

Idk, a few more teeth on back sprocket mabie or less teeth on drive sprocket

[@Deucealive75]

A lot more on the back sprocket and 1 or 2 less on the drive sprocket. This is a gearing issue.

[@dylanarioso3931]

I want one of those but I can’t afford it

[@funkypescado]

Sounds like a you problem 😂

[@quytruong5654]

ok

[@peytonthomas4506]

Quy Truong ok

[@joelwatts9042]

Why is it necessary to physcally remove the governor.

[@les887]

Because that little gear may fail if you leave it inside..you don't really need to remove the pin behind the flywheel..Red Beard takes these apart in his sleep so the extra few minutes to him is nothing.. : D

[@joelwatts9042]

Thanks

[@charlesthurston5172]

in vertical shaft engines the govenor throws the oil around in the engine to keep the engine lubricated cause it has fins/paddles on it, i kept it on my briggs and stratton 18.5 HP and removed the metal on it and placed it back in. its stock and is capable of 5k but i havent tried going higher with the RPMs cause im afraid the stock flywheel will explode

[@sargothi]

Stage 2 seems like a waste of money. Stage 2: remove governor thats it.

[@seanclarkminikartgarage1616]

Can u check ur messages?

[@BasedYammieChad]

Early

[@seanclarkminikartgarage1616]

First lol

[@poopjeans1135]

It just takes some time, little girl you're in the middle of the Ride (over, and over) Everthing, everything it'll be just fine (over, and over) Everything, everything it'll be alright (alright)