Reddit Keeps Destroying Itself

In this video I discuss ways that Redditers have been protesting the changes to Reddits API and the CEOs reaction to protests as well as Lemmy becoming more popular in the wake of the John Oliver spam and NSFW content being posted on popular subreddits.
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[@denpa-kei]

The most ethical thing you can do right now is to stop using reddit

[@geniuskhan2520]

I see it as a win-win. No one likes Reddit, not even redditors.

[@galenmarek4117]

I'm offended you assume I used it in the first place.

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

@@galenmarek4117 indeed.

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

Why? Its just a bunch of power tripping mods and their slacktivist. I can think of worse moral dilemmas...

[@davidturcotte831]

That's debatable. I would argue that's only the most moral thing to do when it comes to the Reddit situation, not the most moral thing I could do right now.

[@anonamos225]

It has never actively crossed my mind that reddit mods take bribes but I'm also not remotely surprised. Like it just makes sense that that's a thing that happens.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Reddit Keeps Destroying Itself

[@jimmycarburator2012]

so they dont do it for free?

[@ra2enjoyer708]

@@jimmycarburator2012 Well some of them don't, since a briber wants to be sure his money achieve some results so a literal who mod of some literal who subreddit isn't going to be picked for a bribe. Ironically this can be said for IRL janitors too, since even he does it for free (or even for a low pay), he still has access to a potentially locked area for espionage purposes or just a general datamining purpose of who goes where and when on daily basis in a public space. The latter is somewhat phased out by having cameras everywhere, but people might be wary of the cameras, while they are indifferent to the same janitor being there for several days and it's harder to fool janny's vision mechanically.

[@seronymus]

Horseshoe Theory but the ends are Soyboys and Mafiosos

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I saw this happen & it didn't come to mind.

[@henrymach]

The main lesson here is: use an ad-blocker. No ads for you

[@aerfwefd7334]

If you haven't learned that lesson at any point since the turn of the millennium, why hasn't your tard wrangler enabled adblock for you?

[@adamuadamu5081]

Yup, didnt even know reddit had ads

[@menjolno]

I believe incognito + vpn + not logged in is even better because the views would become useless

[@TheDisturbed0ne1]

​@@menjolnoalso don't interact with the site in any way to create free content for them to sell out with ads to other users and pumped numbers for them to brag with to their shareholders.

[@danielschmider5069]

I think the main lesson here is that most people still aren't using an ad-blocker

[@ThunderLiege]

I always find it funny that, despite their political and policy differences, both 4chan jannies and Reddit moderators are both despised. I can't imagine doing this kind of work for free. Just nuts.

[@johnstamos5948]

hall monitor mentality

[@Krakburg]

Applies to any moderator really

[@pseudonym50]

@@Krakburg Applies to a lot of politicians as well

[@measlesplease1266]

​@@pseudonym50I think we should deal with both of them in the same way......

[@nwerd7584]

funnily enough people hate IRL janitors too til the shit on the walls isnt cleaned up and nobody can use it at all. Then they cry for it to be done for free.

[@TheRustyCrab]

Steve Huffman gives less of a shit about his user base than Susan Wojcicki ever did. Well done corporations, you've done it again 👏

[@TheRustyCrab]

At the same time, good luck trying to manage a bunch of Reddit mods. Jesus christ

[@CircaSriYak]

What a name

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

Yeah. And that’s really difficult to give less of a shite than Susan.

[@handofstranger]

@@TheRustyCrab The only good thing about an upvote/downvote system is that it makes the site self-moderating.

[@r.d.x7403]

I don’t see anything wrong here. Corps doing exactly what they are supposed to.

[@yuvalne]

so long as the protesters say they'll keep using Reddit in the end, this will fail. they need to move to a non-corporate, decentralised alternative (such as Lemmy or kbin which are gaining traction)

[@TheDisturbed0ne1]

If you ignore the growing pains of the fediverse right now, it's an amazing place to be at. I've got high hopes for it to replace Reddit for me and I'm working on setting up my own private Lemmy server to avoid any defederation or account loss.

[@projectnemesi5950]

i've literally never heard of lemmy or kbin. Just sayin

[@757Bricksquad]

Here’s the funny thing, 95-99% of Reddit users don’t give a flying fuck about this. It was the mods that cared. So no shit this is going to fail.

[@among-us-99999]

Lemmy is a bit suspicious, didn’t the guy who made it moderate several tankie subreddits?

[@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis]

​@@among-us-99999and what now?

[@smnfldstrte27]

The Reddit admin team is shooting itself in the foot, nobody is going to want to invest in them after all of this.

[@Splarkszter]

no social media platform is profitable anyways.

[@LieutenantTickles]

I hope the Reddit mods and the corporate side of Reddit both lose in this exchange

[@CircaSriYak]

Yes they will. You think this is still about money? When it comes to Big Tech, it's about control not money. Billionaires will happily burn millions of dollars to keep reddit going even in a zombified unprofitable state, just so that they don't lose control over vast portions of the internet using public.

[@rh906]

You underestimate the market makers of the stock market. They don't invest on fundamentals, they invest with logic that is only known to them.

[@Jose04537]

@@Splarkszter LinkedIn is

[@Vmac1394]

1:46 I love how he had to actively suppress his laughter at people paying real money to give out the heckin' gold stickers.

[@YesHumphreyAppleby]

Also they literally used to give awards out for free.

[@raah7957]

i miss forums

[@___gg421]

With any other site I’d say people will move on, but Reddit has a culture of being angry and not letting things go.

[@among-us-99999]

reddit also has a history of being extremely outraged about a thing for a week and then forgetting about it. Microsoft account for Minecraft anyone? discord username change?

[@KingMinish]

​@@among-us-99999That's just people in general though

[@alexander1989x]

This protest DEFINETLY hurts reddit because they did a 180 and went full panic mode after they leaked that "Employees should stay calm as this protest doesn't hurt our revenue that much and it will all fizzle with time."

[@marcogenovesi8570]

NO PANIK

[@TheDapperDragon]

Thing is, when the whole thing first started, I said this was a chance for those mods to earn some respect. All they have to do is nothing. Not like they're even getting paid, so just lock everything down, and fucking leave. But no, as soon as Reddit started saying 'we'll just ban them.' suddenly, they all fucking folded.

[@aaronlandry3934]

This was the correct move. Reddit’s mods are just a bunch of stupid losers. Corporate doesn’t pay them and doesn’t care what they think, as nobody else does

[@icebox1954]

@@TheDapperDragon They're Reddit mods. Expecting anything from them is dumb.

[@Esen441]

Remember when all the terminally online weirdos from Twitter said they were leaving after Elon took away their blue checks, but then they didn't leave? That's how it will be for Reddit.

[@etcetera36]

they have internet addiction

[@readuth1488]

​@@etcetera36so true

[@bilbo_gamers6417]

Eh. Twitter has a very different userbase. It's never really been a shitty porn oriented platform. Reddit on the other hand is something that could be just destroyed by people turning the main subreddits into garbage. You can't do that with Twitter.

[@kris1123259]

The culture and the model are different. Twitter encourages users to be performative, because its based on having a following. Before Elon, blue check accounts where non anonymous. Reddit can be annoying but the people there largely mean whatever weird thing they say they believe. There's nothing to gain if they play pretend, almost no one uses their real name on the site.

[@scout360pyroz]

@@kris1123259 "nothing to gain if they play pretend" oh how little you know... though reddit generally isnt the type I am thinking of

[@SimGunther]

You never go full Reddit

[@a_9408]

This makes the 4chan janitor a luxurious position!

[@imgladnotu9527]

smh jannies

[@SgtMjRomero]

God I'd rather be under the thumb of the Janissaries, they may make or break your reputation but at least they fought the wars

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

Birth should just kts

[@luigi9458]

reddit moment

[@epicn]

reddit moment

[@bobcat5377]

reddit moment

[@kiniro4203]

reddit moment

[@ISHIDDEDANDFARDED]

reddit moment

[@awesomecat]

reddit moment

[@UnixOath]

Ah remember when Reddit was open source, good old times.

[@joshallen128]

Wait it was

[@UnixOath]

@@joshallen128 Yes, now they decided to close it due to competition.

[@X_mano]

​@@joshallen128he's playing on you

[@midimusicforever]

Imagine, kicking your free labor in the face can BACKFIRE?! What a shocker!

[@adrixshadow]

And replaced with the free labor of your political opposition. Surprised pikachu face.jpg

[@DrewskiTheLegend]

The r*ddit jannies deserve far worse. They’ll pay for the privilege of being in control because they are pathetic narcissists.

[@Wampa842]

Mr. Outlaw, I think we would all appreciate a video explaining how the fediverse (Lemmy in particular for myself) works, what "federation" means in this context, how accounts are handled across instances, and how to determine which communities/instances are available from an account's "home" instance. Understanding the inner workings is basically the only roadblock for me.

[@Reeces_Pieces]

A lot of communities already had to run off and make their own forums, out of fear or anticipation of being banned. The decline of reddit was well on it's way before all this. It's just accelerating now.

[@evgrafov3277]

I never have used reddit and thought that term "redditor" is some kind of a slur. It turned out to be an official term used in ToS

[@nobodynoone2500]

It's honestly kinda both.

[@Maddin1313]

I see a lawsuit in Reddit's future, when investors realize that Reddit can become worthless within days when users protest and leave.

[@KarmaisReal-sm6bz]

Worthless? Reddit will become bigger than ever in a few weeks. Just you wait and see. Getting rid of the freeloaders is the best thing they can do and what they should have done in the first place. This is Twitter all over again. Remember how worthless Twitter was prior to Elon Musk buying it? Now it's making bank because people have to pay for a good product now, hence why millions are using it. By the time these tards are done with their "protest", the Reddit drama has helped them build a bigger name for themselves.

[@DanteLikesRock]

"when users leave" ...lol.

[@q_yrko9067]

@@DanteLikesRock tumblr lol

[@fudgen.a1249]

@@q_yrko9067It’s pretty hard to navigate Tumblr compared to Reddit on mobile, at least for me. Also there’s a ton of spoilers for video games and movies right in the open, so I guess there’s that too.

[@mrfoodskater]

Like most things

[@frogmouth2]

Reddit is a website with an extremely high level of cult community yet very little if any individuality. It’s so weird especially compare to other social media platforms.

[@b_delta9725]

r/place is the only event where redditors actually help each other, and even then it's mostly people who were already friends doing plans, or stream viewers who formed parasocial relationships and get obsessed with painting the place 24/7 or drama people who cause controversy in the event, somehow

[@walkingcontradiction223]

Yes, especially the unpaid moderators that are there just for the tiny modicum of control they can exert on people.

[@AndyTheBoiz]

If you show any individuality you're going to get suppressed harder than the Chinese protestors in Tiananmen Square

[@MyWifesSon69]

Conformity. Their reward system which is up votes and golds and whatever it's called made people crave that and therefore they adopted whatever ideas would get them the top comment or post.

[@titsbitchmcgee7502]

Zealous mods, shadowbanning, hidden comments, updoots. Sometimes I get the feeling that Reddit is just one big psychological experiment.

[@dnkmmr69420]

I got perma banned from the reddit admins over stuff that did not break the TOS

[@AR-ey1ur]

Admins or mods? Admins don't typically deal with banning people, mods do.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@AR-ey1ur mods don't ban people for TOS they can block you from their subreddit

[@nububu]

imagine working for free as mod

[@scrittle]

And whatever sponsorships they're given by companies

[@redey1290]

I hope this means we see the rise of the internet forum again... Even though it is honestly shittier most of the time to find information easily, I kind of miss that very specific community site that had a lot of the same stuff as Reddit without all the IPO company crap like this going on. Lemmy seems cool, and I'd be happy if that caught on, but jeez I just miss regular old forums for some reason.

[@lestervarela3332]

Hopefully silicon valley slowly but surely loses it's death grip over the internet and more people start using things like Yandex, Lemmy and separated internet forums

[@whyishoudini]

@@lestervarela3332 neocities has been growing like crazy for artists, fuck instagram

[@SCHMALLZZZ]

Forums still exist bud.

[@redey1290]

@@SCHMALLZZZ No shit “bud” lol. I know they still exist, I still use them from time to time. What I’m getting at is they are nowhere near as popular or easy to search through as Reddit and I’d like them to become better and overtake Reddit as there's now an opportunity to do so.

[@TheDapperDragon]

@@lestervarela3332 I can honestly see it happening. Thing is, I firmly believe the internet is a fad to most normies. A long running fad, but so was Disco. I think we're a decade or two out, at most, before corperations start to lose interest in the internet, seeing how it's brought nothing but misery. For every easy ad you put on a website, you've got shit like old school 4chan fucking up entire events, people whining about everything from 'THAT AD WAS OFFENSIVE, PAY ME', to 'YOU'RE PROMOTING X CULTURE', politcal boycotts. At some point, corpos are just gonna decide it's not worth it. The net will never go all the way back to the golden years, but I really do think we're finally, FINALLY, in sight of it at least going back to tolerable.

[@AdamArcherPigeons]

Has everyone forgotten how we all migrated from digg to reddit?

[@Peglegkickboxer]

Don't forget Tumblr

[@karenwang313]

I actually logged back into my Tumblr account a while back for the first time in years. It's honestly not that bad, if you can ignore the social justicey atmosphere it gives off.

[@Dontlicktheballoons]

Going to war with the internet is always a great idea🤦‍♂️

[@sirzorg5728]

I left reddit years ago. I feel very reassured that this was the right decision.

[@KingMinish]

Hey psssst Join Lemmy

[@diegomontoya796]

Let's not talk about feelings.

[@SreenikethanI]

same... almost 4 years ago for me

[@sassafrassanid5718]

same dude... the internet sucks

[@berkaltuglu8140]

"No you f*ck*ng donkey"

[@Turbo_Toad]

I think its time to decentralize and start having websites pop up again with forums like how it used to be. Just isn't good having one website for everything.

[@adrixshadow]

Not going to happen since all those mods and communities love their safe spaces where they get to censor everyone they don't like. They haven't fully realize that they themselves are shooting themselves in the foot, not just the admins. The admins can go full nuclear because they know what kind of wretches they are dealing with.

[@dhoffnun]

Ditching reddit for dedicated forums is the way

[@gampedump]

return to tradition r e j e c t m o d e r n i t y

[@kendarr]

Uhr, I like reddit, but I don't see another way

[@Jadty]

Decentralized, free speech with an emphasis on anti glowie tech. It’s time to make it happen.

[@Micolashcage1]

Dont like reddit as a company and dont like reddit users and mods so this is a win/win

[@harleyspeedthrust4013]

agreed. the company is cancer, the mods are cancer, and the people are cancer. it's great to see cancer get rekt

[@orpheus0108]

Reddit has some decent communities with good help/info. They are few and far between

[@Micolashcage1]

@@orpheus0108 reddit is only useful imo for figuring out how to solve annoying technical problems

[@alexanderjackson7815]

@@wlord-lr3mpthey all have their uses even when whatever you described just because it is popular. Many niche topics you won’t find elsewhere unless you search the whole internet

[@mistakenmeme]

​@@wlord-lr3mpout of all of the things for which you could criticize reddit and redditors, you criticize them for banning r/incels. Reddit moment.

[@vaux1719]

forums dedicated to specific topics will always be better than reddit

[@rpeetz]

Honestly i hope that reddit go down, I’ve seen way too many communities that had their own forum gets dissolved because “it’s better to have a subreddit”. In a perfect world people would migrate to decentralized and possibly federated options.

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

My Reddit account was permabanned after arguing with a mod after they made a mistake. Oh…haha I had a premium account for an aggregate of three months (gifted by other redditors) that was cancelled before I even finished with a month. I actually helped a lot of people in various subs and I had about 10k karma. It’s not much but I was only on there for a few months. A lot of people say this but it’s more a loss to the Reddit community than to me…I’m a pretty decent troubleshooter in the tech space. Oh well. I have no tears for Reddit or its mods. I’ve only got popcorn.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

Same shit here but I just use the site in TOR so I can just make a new account each time I get banned Now I just post 1gb videos of noise to fill up their servers with garbage

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

@@My_Old_YT_Account they still haven’t banned the account I created just to spite them.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

@@AnthonyBolognese710 if you get banned enough times they will auto ban new accounts on your ip

[@Cingku]

I once posted on Reddit just to share how to make the built-in monitor speakers sound fantastic and loud, but it got me banned from Reddit. That was my first and last time using Reddit, and I have no intention of using it again.

[@nojuanatall3281]

I had a similar experience. Got banned for nothing and never used the site again.

[@AR-ey1ur]

Yeah, but you were banned by mods, who are the ones making all this drama. This is why it's so great that they're either getting replaced or made to fall in line.

[@carnap355]

no more mods after this drama so you can try using it again

[@bigjohn2811]

Considering what Spaz Huffman did to the Donald forum and him editing people's comments, does it really matter what happens to Reddit? Also F the jannies.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

6:00 Personally, I've leveraged the Wayback Machine/Google Web Cache to be able to see posts from subreddits that have been privated. I don't participate in subreddits usually unless I have valuable technical advice to share, in subreddits like r/degoogle, r/linux, etc. Between my adblocker and a crawler that copied the data to a completely different website, I doubt Reddit has any way at all to profit off of these accesses, or even know that I did it. That's the power of archival, people. And the ultimate way to screw over social media sites, short of, I dunno, hackers straight up attacking the service in all-out digital warfare and people showing up at Reddit HQ IRL with pitchforks trying to break in and burn the place down. They don't have the right to pretend that the data we post belongs to them, and we should not be pretending that they do. If they want to own and profit off of our data so much, then shouldn't they need to pay up for any copyright infringement we may engage on in their behalf? That's the natural responsibility of implicitly claiming content ownership, after all. You don't get to privatize the profits and socialize the losses. People hate socialism so much, but y'all unknowingly been thrust into it too, and you ain't even getting any of the good parts! Only the bad? How can you not revolt?

[@elliominati]

Give enough of them bread and circus, and you can do anything

[@JodyBruchon]

Piracy is freedom.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@JodyBruchon True, but in this case, it ain't even that.

[@shadesoftime]

​@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7well, it is You're basically negating the profit that the website would get from your visit the intended way, getting stuff for free

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@shadesoftime No, it isn't, because they do not own the content. You cannot claim that someone pirated something from you when it isn't yours, either. And in this case, our uploads belong to us, not the social media platform that we posted them on. They aren't copyrightable material anyway, since ToSes love to claim that you grant them the legal rights to your content and yet dare refuse to hold any accountability for it in the same sentence (which has no real basis in law), but between bad, contradictory lawmaking and contracts tending to overcorrect in favor of corporations in ways that could never fly if regulatory guidelines of any capacity existed at all, I personally chose to give zero fucks about these lies. And I call them lies because their core foundations are based on an imaginary, contradictory reality that does not exist, and is even impossible, logically, to work as implied. This makes the legislation itself absolute nonsense. When I said I agreed to the terms and conditions, I lied. Obviously I lied. Everyone does. And everyone knows. That checkbox for a unilateral "agreement" that people literally, scientifically do not have time to read does not, and cannot replace a real, proper contract negotiation where both parties got to discuss the terms, and the law is full of BS for pretending that it does. So why are we all pretending they're valid if nothing about them makes any sense?

[@LysergicKids]

I haven't used reddit in years, so I have no skin in this fight. I just find the entire situation ironic and hilarious. The only reason I would want to see reddit maintain its users is because I don't want all those pathetic cardboard personalities flooding into more freedom of speech-sites I use, bitching and moaning about nonsense, begging for more moderation and censorship. The way I view it, Reddit and Twitch are containers for people I don't want to interact with.

[@harleyspeedthrust4013]

so true bro. twitch people are honestly so braindead i don't even know how they function

[@scrittle]

The only good thing that came out of Reddit was niche advice subreddits on law and piracy. The moment something hits all it dies, so no you're absolutely right.

[@pandapruitt2542]

I don't use reddit nor any other form of social media like it but I do agree mainly with this comment and it hits home as I see people come to my country seeking asylum all the time, only to then try and change my country to their ex countries laws and regulations

[@jerrymoto6249]

Reddit shall burn tonight!

[@thewrathfulbadger2614]

Hopefully today is the day we will be free.

[@jerrymoto6249]

@@thewrathfulbadger2614 we will never be free!

[@masterbasher9542]

It will take a lot of nails, before Reddit dies. Take how long Flash lasted as an example of how hard you need to make Reddit die. Before it dies hard.

[@michaelm1]

There are two worst things in life. One is not getting what you want, the other is getting it. Bye, bye, Reddit.

[@wavvyair]

Can you make a detailed guide highlighting Fediverse/Lemmy. It would really help loosen reddits dictator grip

[@antikommunistischaktion]

Nah the Fediverse is a toxic cesspit. The Lemmy devs are literally Mao and Castro simps. Return to tradition (phpbb and vbulletin)

[@shivadarling18]

I hope people don't leave Reddit because it means that they'll migrate to another site and mess it up. They can go to Twitter though.

[@sumnerd69]

I miss non-news videos :(

[@kris1123259]

I worked for a tech company that tried to IPO and failed. The whole "Let's focus in growing and will figure out how to make money later" is super dumb, most business models in the tech sector don't make sense and will never make sense. Reddit and Twitter work as a concept /protocol/ software but not as busineses

[@adrixshadow]

Twitter got lucky with Musk.

[@winzyl9546]

Because the goal is not to make a sustainable business, its to grow it fast and large enough so they can sell it to tech giants or man-child billionaires for 10 times its actual value.

[@YakyuBoy]

Praying on that site's downfall

[@robin-whg]

Such a good opportunity to finally stop using Reddit. I always get passive-aggressive when I use it, yet I still do it.

[@jamescampisi7716]

"Tyrant's acting as good guys?" "Always has been." .meme

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

I've been on reddit for ten years now, been there for the whole slide into pathetic trash.. It degenerated especially fast during covid where every sub's mod became an authoritarian censor/thought-police

[@diablo.the.cheater]

mods exist to be authoritarian censors and that is okay, that is their job literally

[@DirtyDev]

@@diablo.the.cheaternot a job since they aren’t paid*

[@nemofunf9862]

​@diablothecheater7504 mods exist to enforce the defined rules of a subreddit or forum. Their actions have to be justified by said rules. They only are authoritarian if they act arbitrarily and base their decisions on personal liking. Basically like the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship. One has the rule of law the other does not.

[@Shteven]

@ithecastic You understood what he meant? Yes? So then it doesn't matter. This isn't a scientific journal or medical research paper, or a court document. Save your superiority complex for the unfortunate people that call themselves your friends.

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

uh.. ya i wouldve thought it was clear but i mean things like getting banned from 40 subreddits (most of which i never even went to) for posting the definition of CONSENT in a totally unrelated sub that they decided was forbidden (NoNewNormal) or being banned from covid19 and coronavirus for sharing CDC data that showed everyone was overreacting or being banned from dozens more subreddits for linking CDC data (this was later) showing they were counting arbitrary things as covid deaths basically they were BANNING INFORMATION, and anyone who READ it from forbidden subs where truth was allowed.. it was DISGUSTING

[@JessicaFEREM]

what they need to do is constantly close and reopen the subreddit, making it feel unreliable to the average user.

[@4.0.4]

Or mass delete good posts and ban active users for no good reason.

[@Zhohan-]

@@4.0.4they already do that 😂

[@Shajirr_]

@@4.0.4 yeah for some mods that's just their average day

[@IwinMahWay]

Or delete entire posts

[@KittehFox]

"The business hours for this subreddit are 9-5 Monday-Thursday, and 11-3 on Friday-Sunday. What timezones? Figure it out."

[@sleepyguy4237]

*WE DID IT REDDIT!!*

[@DyceFreak]

The narwhal has baconed 🥳

[@kalj1939]

Here is some Le Gold stranger

[@readuth1488]

​@@DyceFreakat midnight no less!

[@elpolodiablo5486]

keenau big chungus wholesome 69 reddit moment

[@KarmaisReal-sm6bz]

You didn't do NOTHING.

[@chickenmonger123]

The primary reason to be a mod, overtly anyway. Is actually to help maintain a favorite Community. For example I frequented a fan sub for a series of novels. A mod spot opened, and after a while one of the frequent users took it. Why? To make sure certain Spoilers rules and stuff were maintained, which upholds the discussion for everyone. The lore discussion was its main appeal, but that included certain tasks that made the place appealing for new and old users. Of course people with little decency, and less prospects, are also attracted to power. Karens. However that mod never used it incorrectly, and was the one I saw there last. Now, I had stopped using it for anything besides those few fan theory and lore discussion reasons. So that is a bit of a different culture. Still I think it is actually representative of a primary reasoning in being a Reddit moderator.

[@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360]

People forgetting why mods were initially needed tells something.

[@Vysair]

you forgets that you yourself gets spoiled first

[@chickenmonger123]

@chucksfeedandseed Mods are also for that. Upholding the rules. On a smaller sub, that’s not a huge issue. Really my point leaves open other priorities for other types of subs too. Not every sub will have the same priorities. As for spoilers, personally I don’t care much. But it’s a huge draw for engagement to have them marked appropriately. So you can ask questions about the series as you go through them. I don’t think it’s unfair to have a place for that. Like I said, it’s where the two meet. The new readers and old. Anyway, if you don’t like that, you don’t have to go to those kinds of subs or forums. And you can make your own.

[@fudgen.a1249]

If I’m being honest, I find it incredibly annoying folks are forgetting the other reasons why mods are around- to moderate communities because none of all people of any group are completely good. Yes, there’s a lot of power tripping mods out there. Any position of power of any sort will attract unscrupulous types of folks. But at the same time, sometimes you need an authority figure to keep a group in order and on the main topic… Which is actually a little depressing now that I think about.

[@chickenmonger123]

@@fudgen.a1249 Like herding cats really.

[@wizaaeed]

I'm 21 years and never in my life i've had to use reddit for something important, if yall don't like it, let's make forums great again

[@masterbasher9542]

30 summers young here, and disasters like this makes me glad for having forums and Newgrounds to love.

[@alivepenmods]

forums were the best

[@Axodus]

Reddit is useful for the same reason stackoverflow is useful. It's a well-indexed repository of a bunch of information. I don't use Reddit, but I do use information posted on it to answer questions and solve problems I have.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@Axodus did you just call Reddit and stackoverflow well-indexed? You take it back kind sir, without search function they are useless

[@Axodus]

@@marcogenovesi8570 They have good SEO at least for my use case.

[@Doodle128]

Awards don’t always mean it’s money given to Reddit, they try to make you want to give out more awards by giving you free ones at first

[@thunderkus290]

Reddit is the tumor that is slowly killing the internet

[@siddhartacrowley8759]

/whooosh

[@goatpepperherbaltea7895]

Idk it’s useful to ask questions about some shit you’re tryna fix or whatever idk why people hate it

[@yourdogisbeautiful5845]

It’s petty awful but at least useful in some instances. I think what you’re talking about would be tik tok

[@diablo.the.cheater]

@@goatpepperherbaltea7895 because those people don't know how to use reddit, it is literally just a big ass forum and not your typical social network

[@ThomasNoname]

The mainstream subreddits are terrible, but there are a lot of useful subreddits for getting high quality almost instant support on almost anything you can think of.

[@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen]

👏🙂 It always boggled my mind how could people spend money on reddit

[@jitx2797]

I joined some political community and they clearly mentioned they appreciate every ideology but they were not. They were extremely biased and would post all sort of non sense and then I correct them with the recognised news portal and court proceedings they would delete my comment . Reddit is a cancer

[@jaxkal9596]

Why why would you join a bunch of sweaty nerds xd

[@scrittle]

Reddit politics is literally left-wing only, because right-wing politics was pushed off the platform by Spez and his political tools.

[@robob4465]

Reddit is great for tech support but don't expect any reasonable political discussion. Any incorrect (contrary to what the majority or just the mods think) opinions will be deleted. Surely the point of a discussion isn't letting everyone say what they think,even if it disagrees with the popular thing,right? I really believe that very loose rules are the way to go for anything politics related.

[@randomtexanguy9563]

@@robob4465 also great for video game or book series communities

[@jitx2797]

@@robob4465 honestly I was more interested in stopping misinformation.... In that subreddit I saw a lot of post especially from "Chinese fact checkers" and they would say a lot of bs and nonsense and would post fake screenshots and all those proofs so I tried my best to debunk those shits and the mods were heavily biased.

[@kylamkv]

I just gave up on reddit, I moved to raddle and trying to learn how to make an Android app to make an app for it when the API is stable

[@bilbo_gamers6417]

The John Oliver pull is so brilliant. Could there be a chance that he could talk about it on his show? That would be huge for devaluing and destroying the company.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Reddit moment

[@user-wy7wl5on7l]

Dude is like the Joe Rogan of the main stream media. (That is an insult btw)

[@greenfroggood2392]

Who the hell watches jon oliver?

[@noname-gp6hk]

​@@greenfroggood2392normies

[@dave7244]

@@noname-gp6hk Disgusting normies

[@circle9nerd]

laughs in r/the_donald

[@thedopplereffect00]

They are doing much better on their own website now

[@Reeces_Pieces]

​@@thedopplereffect00 They made a fully fledged old reddit clone that looks almost identical and supports CSS as well as custom domain names for your community. I still think it's funny how nobody else seems to be able to copy the UI and style of old reddit as exactly as they did.

[@circle9nerd]

@@thedopplereffect00 bigly

[@cbtillery135]

I'm just glad that power mods like u/awkwardtheturtle are getting utterly BTFO'd by this. edit: 3:34 example of u/awkwardtheturtle

[@adrekiy0]

sucks reddit's dying bc i've found so many answers to niche problems that support forum users never seem to mention

[@KarmaisReal-sm6bz]

It's not dying. After 2 - 3 weeks everything will be back to normal, only without the EBT mods.

[@mryeetproductions]

it wont die lmao just wait a few weeks

[@catpriest]

reddit is not dying

[@KarmaisReal-sm6bz]

​@@mryeetproductions Not at all. In fact, the REDDIT stock seems like a very good investment at this point. All these drama queens are doing is make sure Reddit becomes bigger than ever. And without all the toxic freeloaders, Reddit could actually become an enjoyable website.

[@maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax]

@@KarmaisReal-sm6bz there's no reddit stock, that's the point of this entire thing

[@ereder1476]

Never underestimate the power of egotrip and power of being a mod. That's why they do it for free and all. So many do want to be, and feel special. Be the superuser. And many do covet the position on popular boards. So you will always have people ready to replace rebellious mods.

[@adrixshadow]

Just imagine if /r/politics mods got replaced with the political right. Basically every subreddit is pretty much left activism tendency and have their opposing enemy.

[@eternalvoid8153]

>He does it for free

[@impheris]

this is why is always good to have an alternative :) sadly, people do not have good memory, i think this is something that will be forgotten

[@fellzer]

The great reddit soyboy Jannycide of 2023

[@ciswhitememe]

jannycide oh my lols

[@POINTS2]

The Reddit exodus will be bigger than the Digg one

[@geniuskhan2520]

I wonder where they'll go

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

It won't

[@masterbasher9542]

All I'll say, is call those who stick to Reddit, nothing but pigeons.

[@zalabit927]

It's a shame, i used Reddit to get answers and conversations on very rare topics, like the JSSDF on Evangelion or Gantz. To see how much trouble this platform packs is very depressing, i just want an active forum to look up any topic.

[@kemosabe1313]

And they're still going to do it for free

[@Ultrajamz]

Nature is healing

[@Danominator]

Shame, I've been able to come to reddit results and ask questions about very specific software or tech issues and always found very helpful people there. It would be a shame for so many of those obscure threads that've helped me out to be lost to time because of more corporate greed.

[@YYY66767]

Yeah it's been hitting me pretty hard since I did a fresh install of arch (arch btw) and am using xfce for the first time. Reddit has been perfect to find help for niche problems with my system.

[@yeahokaycoolcool]

I always copy and paste or reword it into a separate troubleshooting doc, just because it's hard af to find those pages again. I hope the site gets archived at least for future searches, if it does crumble eventually.

[@Danominator]

I've had so many niche questions answered on reddit compared to the disasters of official company forums like HP or Dell. It really concerns me how quickly this information could be zapped because reddit apparently didn't have enough money.

[@user-yv6xw7ns3o]

I think this is just another sad reality check for anyone who thought the Internet is run by companies that actually care about what people want. Even if they do, they can't be counted on in the long run. The odds of corruption and fallout are just astronomical.

[@JodyBruchon]

All that info should be on internet forums, not a giant conglomerate that wields a ban hammer.

[@cocogus]

I couldn't be happier.

[@dmitriytrapeznikov2550]

Conspiracy theory: every unpaid moderator in any website is actually a government agent

[@adrixshadow]

I mean you have to be stupid if you don't think most powermods aren't on the Democrats payroll.

[@handleneeds3charactersormore]

They're pathetic losers, take your meds, schizo

[@smorrow]

Believable considering the Twitter files. I know it isn't true of small subs like /r/plan9 though (because I moderate that)

[@thunderousavenger2382]

i dont use reddit, appart for searching for information on things i need. and thats in my opinion also one of the largest problems with reddit. its one of the only few places where you can find the information youre actually looking for. because if you dont look there all youre going to find is worthless trash articles which are lengthened out with useless information you dont even care about. its outrageous and awful. id love to not use reddit at all. but im left with no other choices and i hate it.

[@enemyofYTemployees]

I wish this happened after the company ipo’d and I had the chance to buy puts.

[@quickkennedy3226]

One can only hope reddit is forced to change in some way.

[@Tysiek-jj4ky]

The sad thing is that people will forget

[@SovereignSmurf]

The nsfw thing is definitely going to affect advertising so that's a great one. I think another good idea would be widespread promotion of using ad blockers for reddit.

[@adrixshadow]

Not really. They don't really make that much money from advertising.

[@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829]

Edit: Thank you for the dead website kind stranger!!!

[@meat5069]

Considering how the mods have crawled back to reddit in the threat of being removed, I think this is just gonna be forgotten or just used as ammo to mock reddit mods

[@timcates4261]

Might consider Lemmy, though this protest gave me the push I needed to just quit reddit, esp after the CEO's reponse.

[@bigMax1337]

01:55 "he does it for free" energy

[@ninenineninenine407]

You should make a vid going a bit more in depth on reddit alternatives, it would be nice to see

[@RemsHusband]

Bump

[@CircaSriYak]

probably next week

[@lokyinng5155]

what they needed is a real life protest

[@comradesusiwolf1599]

fedi is the future. giants who crush the space will still exist. but fedi will stand the test of time.

[@gunki-san]

While reddit burns to the ground, we will be enjoying life touching grass and raising chickens and sing by campfires with frens

[@masterbasher9542]

And when that fails, ye olde Forums and Bulletin Board Systems. Far more indie and free than Reddit. And Lemmy at best...

[@gunki-san]

@@masterbasher9542 Agreed.

[@elliotjack6999]

I don't think it will last, people will get bored or distracted and it will fizzle out, good example would be to think how rabid some people where about COVID and masks etc and now they don't care because it is not vogue. I don't think people will migrate to open source either, probably just to another standard platform if they go anywhere, think when Tumblr shot itself in the foot and there was some clamouring for alternatives and open source but people just went to twitter instead

[@jupiteriana.]

That isn't how community awards work. Every time a user gives an award in a subreddit, coins get deposited in the community pot. Mods can then use those coins to give a mod-exclusive award, they don't pay for them.

[@nobodyaskedfortwitterhandles]

So people made a huge stink about discord changing their usernames to have twitter handles but i haven't heard a peep about youtube doing it. You should do a video on that

[@joshuarmost]

I hope Reddit really gets hurt by this PR

[@mrc1500]

I think the centralised communities give organisations, like Reddit, too much power and wealth while they thrive off the backs of creators. The same is happening with KZbin. Any protest that removes or significantly lessens their hegemony can only benefit value creators and their communities. I'd dearly love to see open source, decentralised and federated solutions that empower creators and communities instead of greedy, rug-pulling CEOs.

[@voidkid420]

I've only ever seen Reddit in search results, and without fail the result was people talking about how they had no idea. Great stuff.

[@alt_warn4211]

Leddit

[@dronestrikejr]

Reddit mods take their job too seriously

[@nobodynoone2500]

Because they are paid by their real employer to control discourse.

[@jakesgaming682]

When your preferred mode of government fails, easy: Just install a puppet instead.

[@lux-vacui]

We need to return to old fashioned forums, like in older days of internet. Not a centralized site to rule them all.

[@WastedDad]

Whats the new reddit?

[@erichill414]

Lemmy is showing a lot of potential.

[@MeCooper]

This whole thing is hilarious. I think the funniest part is how they're so addicted to Reddit they threatened to stop using it for *an entire two days.* 😮 It had all the energy of _"If you make this crack more expensive I'm just gonna stop smoking it."_

[@daddyethan]

Personally I think Reddit is a gigantic cesspool where there is no free speech and I only use it for the UFC subreddit which hasn't really been touched

[@sharklion3]

I wouldn't be surprised if the goal all along was to "price anchor" API access costs

[@chacalan9459]

Of course it was. What color is the sky in your world? You give people a taste for free until they get addicted and until you're forced to start making profit in order to keep the service running, then you start charging money. We're seeing this with all the social media platforms now. Twitter, KZbin, Reddit and next out is Discord. It's bout time you freeloaders learn a thing or two about real life.

[@sumfagola]

@@chacalan9459 They gon double dip, 1. Personal data and targeted ads 2. Pay-in features for "site maintenance"

[@w__a__l__e]

social media and profit are two things that should never mix

[@chacalan9459]

Okay, freeloader. Then how can they operate? Who's gonna pay the bills?

[@GSFigure]

​@@chacalan9459 If people actually like the site, they'll donate. Alternatively, the profit shouldn't be chased upon like a carrot on a stick with no regard of your users.

[@mryeetproductions]

@@chacalan9459 donate bozo

[@kalj1939]

​@@chacalan9459Good stuff 👌

[@Moonstone-Redux]

​@@GSFigureDoes anyone still remember the "Reddit Gold helped pay for [insert percentage] of today's server costs" bar? Because I do. Some people just don't know how to leave good enough alone.

[@aarona3144]

The worst thing about this is redditors showing up in other "communities" and being toxic there instead of staying on Reddit.