Redesigning Snowflake and Safespace (again) + Representation | Kat Blaque

[@MikaelaCher]

I mean, to be fair the originals don't look like superheroes either. They look like they are wearing costumes

[@gingerroot961]

They look like professional cyclists

[@dracophile]

Honestly, yeah. I thought they looked like non-descript sports uniforms when I first saw them. Also, Safespace's insignia looks like a bowling ball...

[@MikaelaCher]

@@dracophile yeah right ? They look like costumes, or like they are wearing some type of sports uniform. They are a little outdated

[@Lufe_Stark]

They look like when twins' parents get matching clothes for their children

[@thornacopia]

The original designs could be pajamas

[@erikpetersson3325]

Honestly your first attempt at redesigning these two looks like what THEY themselves would've picked out as their make-at-home superhero costumes, while this *new* design looks like what they got when joining this group of superheroes under professional care. and i really love that contrast and the implications that there was care involved in keeping these teenagers (if im not mistaken?) looking the way *they* want themselves to look like while still making it just more practical and better without losing their personalities.

[@mesmerizedskeletons]

Erik Petersson Wait I love this

[@kerilemonshark8347]

Yes

[@CaseyShontz]

That’s a really cool idea!

[@jhsbandgeek091]

Yes yes yes! Like Spiderman and the hoody attempt at a costume!

[@emikochan13]

omg absolute genius

[@boybriar]

The way you listened to criticism and improved your designs is so inspiring.

[@sarashellhammer1364]

I totally agree, she did a FANTASTIC job of handling some pretty harsh (and in some instances inaccurate) criticism.

[@Xan1120]

I absolutely love how this has come along! Their redesigns are so spunky and fun!

[@brib6046]

I really like your name! I feel like it rolls really well

[@killerkidseb56]

Was going to say the same thing. Something Marvel should do! Also I hope Kat redesigns the rest of the team to match these redesigns. I'd love to see the full line up!

[@franklinlewis1097]

Marvel could never

[@ToruKun1]

I'm very fond of this re-re-REdesign, it's very slick and streamlined and I think is a better attempt at emulating the futuristic outfits of the originals (but I still think your first Naruto otaku weaboo outfits were cute too)

[@ninashewchuk8976]

Safespace's outfit in particular gives me slight early '90s superhero costume vibes, when character outfits got all EXTREME! and featured all kinds of armbands and huge shoulder pads and chains and other accessories. I know those costumes get a lot of flak, but I love 'em because they're fun and over-the-top. Practicality is overrated.

[@valeriarossini543]

@@ninashewchuk8976 big agree!!! I hate when people yell about realism and practicality in superhero cotumes, like... sis... it's a superhero??? you're allowed to have fun with the design

[@nbkarkat]

i LOVE these new redesigns. the colours and shapes all flow and complement so nicely and they're genuinely so nice to look at. as a nonbinary person i can especially see myself in the outfit snowflake was given! they're really cool, they make sense thematically and etcetera, and just plain look good.

[@pr1ps]

Okay, first off, the begginning of the video, the tings you said, just made me super emotional. Second, I kinda agree with the former critiscm BUT allow mw to offer a headcannon: First designs are the outfits they put up themselves, kinda like sweatshirt peter parker. Those ones, the new ones, are costumes designed for when they join the veternan heroes. So, you can have a "year one" issue with a brand new look for people to aprreciate! and the D&D and naruto refs are perfect for this sort of stories

[@jayfeather464]

Oooooooo yes im here for the HC

[@MaryMorstann]

Love this idea

[@gingerroot961]

This is actually pretty similar to the ms marvel comic series Marvel put out a few years ago. For the first two books she has a homemade costume that basically just consists of athleisure and a fanny pack I really like that series

[@israsaleh]

I'm loving this headcanon

[@shiaseedsalad2726]

Great idea!

[@vampireactually]

the thing that bothers me I thinkt the most about Snowflake and Safespace is that their powers are so random, like.... they're supposed to be twins, they look alike, and then their powers not only are lame but also unrelated?? what do ice shurikens have to do with force fields? wouldn't it make more sense if they could, I don't know, both create something from ice but use it in different ways? or if they could both create force fields but one of them could only use them to attack and the other one only to protect? I don't know, I just had to talk about this because it's just making me nuts

[@EmperorMegas]

In fairness, I don't think we understand everything about how they came to have powers. And I don't think their powers are really lame, honestly. Ice and force manipulation certainly aren't mundane or useless powers after all. Iceman and Vindicator have similar powers and they were heavy hitters, the former far more than the latter, of course. Actually, Vindicator's abilities to manipulate geothermal energy allows her to use heat and cold in various ways as well as to create forcefeilds. Not entirely unlike the powers of Snowflake and Safespace respectively.

[@DrMike18]

To be fair, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are twins but their powers have nothing to do with each other. She can alter the fabric of reality and he can run fast.

[@yanggang7]

Their powers are actually fairly complimentary (one has all the defensive abilities, while the other is all offense). In fact, they've got a very similar dynamic to Cloak and Dagger. And the nature of Safespace's powers in particular mean that they'll likely be fighting as a matched set most of the time. I do think that Snowflake's using ice to form their shurikens rather than some other material (like the same force energy Safespace manipulates) was an oversight, but I assume it was kept that way in order for the name to make sense.

[@vampireactually]

@@DrMike18 yeah but I feel like it's different in this situation. I mean, you don't have Safe space without Snowflake and vice versa, they look alike, their names don't really work on their own and then their powers are just random. They're supposed to be a duo, you get both or none, and everything about them "matches" except for their powers. but that's just my opinion, in the end I don't really know what I'm talking about

[@faerie5926]

I agree.

[@lizziej6484]

SNOWFLAKE HAS A LITTLE BLACK STRIPE ON THEIR PANYS THAT ECHOES THEIR BROTHER'S FANNY PACK!!!! Love how you're able to sneak little cute things like that into their designs to unify them as siblings without completely draining them of their own personal aesthetics.

[@davidx.1504]

Isn't a fanny pack also really inconvenient in a combat zone too? Like someone said a binder would be?

[@SeymourDisapproves]

@@davidx.1504 it might be inconvenient irl, but I feel like the fanny pack is more forgivable than the binder because the random pack strapped to a character's hip/leg in line with comic book logic and design?

[@Usagirainbow]

@@davidx.1504 I don't think it would be as much as a binder. Like yeah depending on the size and stuff it could bounce around and be annoying/distracting but I could see an additional strap being added to fully attach it to the leg to fix that. Its definitely not like a binder that can cause injury to the chest/rib area just with prolonged use

[@davidx.1504]

I don't remember a comic book character who uses a fanny pack or other bag that big and that loose on them while out on missions, so it may be too big to even comport with superhero comic laws. I can see some extra straps and stuff being added to keep it more stable in high movement scenarios, but it would've been good to incorporate those into the redesign from the get go, imo. I'm pretty sure she introduced the fanny pack in the first place, so I think keeping it stable in accordance with the practical needs of superhero activities should've been factored in as well

[@Usagirainbow]

@@davidx.1504 now that I think about it I think big bags are mostly an anime type thing (admittedly I don't read -a lot- of comics so the only western hero I can think off the top of my head is honey lemon from big hero 6) but it is nice to see a bag incorporated instead of having a pocket dimension somehow hidden in spandex suit. But either way I don't think these redesigns were made to be -perfect- just more relatable rather than tokenism/stereotyping in their design

[@beaucarlton7631]

I do feel like a problem with the emerging representation of nonbinary characters in media is that they've all been the same "kind" of nonbinary person thus far -- a largely androgynous but masculine-leaning flat-chested afab person with short hair. It's been really pushing an image of nonbinary as some trans lite category of trans people almost as a direct response to caricatures of nonbinary people in order to make it more palatable to a cis audience, as if a nonbinary person couldn't just as feasibly be someone who presents flamboyantly with a glitterbeard and bright lipstick or even be someone who doesn't present androgynously in any shape or form, both of which seem like near opposites but are equally controversial images of nb people due to the perceived performativity of their gender identity and/or expression to hop on some sort of transtrending train.

[@CaseyShontz]

Yess! This kind of thing is why I used to think I had to “look genderfluid” or pass as certain genders on different days in order to be considered “really genderfluid”. And why I used to think gender expression = gender identity. And I think that is a thing most non-binary people can relate to. Non binary is not one specific thing. It’s not just a third gender that’s right in between male and female. I’d like to see some better non-binary representation out there sometimes..

[@iridescentdemon]

I get the criticism but at the same time those are the nonbinary character designs I most connect to

[@mxmissy]

@@iridescentdemon I'm fine with those characters, I'm happy with those characters, because there are some people, like yourself, who genuinely look like those nonbinary people. I think the issue, I and a lot of other nonbinary people have is that that's the /only/ representation we get. Like, I'd love to see someone who is very masc as nonbinary or someone who is very femme as nonbinary. I'm AFAB, but I look like a cis woman, and I'm fat. It fucking sucks when all I see in media are skinny people with a flat chest, and short hair. I only have one of those things, and let me tell you it's the easiest thing to change.

[@overgrownkudzu]

@@iridescentdemon it's not bad that they're there, it's actually much better than none at all, it's just kind of sad that those are the only representation. because you (and me too, actually) may connect to those, but there are amab nb people, and nb people of colour, and non androgynous nb people, and they deserve representation too

[@iridescentdemon]

@@overgrownkudzu I know it just seems to me that those more popular kinds of representations often get negative reactions and dismissal which makes me feel bad for being happy about them lol

[@gingerroot961]

I hate when writers have a character be “gay” but literally don’t allow that to effect any part of their personality or expression. And then they pass that off as good representation because “ it doesn’t matter if you’re gay or straight, we’re all the same! “

[@L013-r9y]

Yeah, some writers don't seem to realize that being LGBT+ affects your life. A lot of bad representation is either characters that have no defining traits/interest/personality beyond being a minority (like Snowflake), or characters like you've described, where there's literally no discussion about the effects being a minority has on a person's life. Real gay people aren't defined by being gay, but it does have a big impact on your life experiences, and writers need to realize that!

[@alluneedislessthan3]

Yes. And also writers that make being gay the person’s ONLY personality trait.

[@aduckinlingerie]

L 013 I could not agree more! They need to find that nice middle ground.

[@yanggang7]

Exactly. It's like they try so hard not to be myopic about the person's identity that they swing the pendulum too hard in the opposite direction. That's why having input from actual gay people matters so much.

[@dr.quinnzel7284]

Well personally I don't mind that kind of representation because I mostly see that kind in shows that aren't set in our world so the characters that live in that world don't have to deal with heteronormativity, cisnormativity, homophobia and transphobia that we, unfortunately, have to deal with. It makes for intresting worldbuilding and I also like the escapism aspect of it.

[@talcastle4656]

I love the construction of Snowflake's top/cowl. Also, I'm so glad that you've kept Safespace's pink scheme, it's really disappointing watching so many artists redesign him and the first thing they do is completely get rid of the pink. They're just kind of looking at this design that's predicated solely on his gender and just, taking the same approach but in the opposite direction? Because so far I haven't seen anyone get rid of Snowflake's blue scheme but the first thing that happens in abt half of all Safespace redesigns is to change his color scheme.

[@KatBlaque]

It's a hard color to design around. I considered it but I wanted to stick to the prompt.

[@bugbear2357]

They tend to make him red, annoyingly. A lot of redesigns also make Snowflake a girl which is even more annoying

[@jeremywaygay]

@@bugbear2357 oh that's so dumb they're just erasing Snowflake's gender identity all together

[@emartin29]

That pink tone is often troublesome when doing character design though, I don't blame them.

[@cvrc11]

I think that "diversity for diversity's sake" isn't even a bad thing - it's when there's nothing else to the character that the problems arise. I would argue that there's nothing bad, and in fact it's good, for a creator to look at a character they created who could be any race, any gender, any sexuality, and choose to make them a member of a marginalized group along any or all of those axes for literally no other reason than to have a more diverse cast - but that can only be done to someone who already has a personality and a purpose in the story outside of their race/gender/sexuality. You also can do characters whose personality / purpose in the story IS defined by their race/gender/sexuality, but in that case it can't be "diversity for diversity's sake" and you need to go into it with a clear goal and message in mind. So I would argue that neither characters who are diverse for diversity's sake, nor characters who are largely defined by their marginalized identity, are bad - it's only when BOTH things are applied to the SAME character, such as seems to have been the case with Snowflake and Safespace, at least at first glance, that problems arise.

[@totagarboua8540]

THIS!! A story like this should have written these characters personalities, then based their superpowers on their personalities, and then their physical design on the outline they’ve already built for the character. Since you already have a map for the character, you can put them in these storylines regarding their gender/sexuality/race and they can have actual reactions and responses and opinions and not just be all ‘gAy RiGhTs lOl’

[@ColeEvyx]

PREACH! Just tacking on labels onto your character just so you can say you are "sooo supportive" of the LGBTQIA+ community is insulting at best. It's vapid, it's shallow, anyone can see through it other than the absolute most ignorant of people. I want a DEEP meaningful character who has a real story and grit behind them. Me as a gay man who grew up bullied, kicked, spat on and so much more growing up... has SO much more to my story than just that! It drives me absolutely bonkers when people boil everything about myself to that one aspect. I am first and foremost a PERSON, being gay is an ASPECT. My identity is so much more.

[@tanok111]

No.

[@fabiog9566]

I agree with you. The very fact that the original designs for Safespace and Snowflake had these basic colour schemes and very similar silhouette speaks to tokenism. The very fact that they're grouped together and described in the same shallow way and they wear the same costumes speaks to that. They are the queer™ characters and are indistinguishable. But everyone has their own experiences in this community, you can't bundle them up like this. This is where I would like to (respectfully) disagree on the definition of diversity for the sake of diversity. I think that writing parts to represent a group is important and good, and I don't think *that* is diversity for the sake of diversity. I define it as that corporate shallowness you referred to. Take for example Dumbledore (Here we go again) His dynamic and relationship with Grindewald could have been interesting as an exploration of character and it could've functioned into his motivations and the way he is. But nope, we get no representation apart from author's note in an interview from 2007. We shouldn't settle for just any representation but for *good* representation. Why should I feel represented by the GayBestFriend™ that's in every romantic movie. That's where I think my opinion lies. There's good representation and then there's representation for the sake representation. (tokenism and shallowness) Does any of this make sense? IDK. Please correct me if I'm wrong/if I misunderstood, I genuinely am curious to see your thoughts as well

[@yraco1232]

Something else that I think is relevant is that problems also arise from the complete opposite end of the character spectrum. If there's nothing else to the character then that's obviously poor representation but it is arguably the same when it's barely a feature of the character. Some representation feels like it was written to be a straight white man then changed to be something else for the sake of representation without actually thinking about how that character might view the world a little differently (it doesn't have to be majorly different but show some minor things). The trope of "bury your gays" fits into this as well where the representation isn't featured because they are killed or otherwise removed from a story early on. Basically, there needs to be a healthy balance where a character's race/gender/sexuality is acknowledged but not all there is to them.

[@miniamo_]

When people say that "any diversity is forced diversity", I have to wonder if they think majority=default? I don't think having a non cishet white person is specifically done just for the sake of having a non cishet white person, it's for the sake of having a person. I feel like, in American media, everyone being a majority would have to be more forced than not everyone being a majority.

[@jalexoneschanel1356]

i hear so many racist, sexist people talking about 'average' and 'the majority' and 'normal' and I just want so bad to tell them that the average human being on earth is a middle-aged Asian person of indeterminate gender and sex. NOT a young, traditionally attractive white man with a crew cut.

[@rainingwhenidie]

I'm a white, bisexual, autistic woman. Apparently I'm not the majority and if there were characters like me in media, someone would be mad. My best friend is a gay trans guy. A lot of people would be mad over him. And we're both white, so I can't even speak about poc and how angry people get when characters are poc. Let alone being poc and lgbt, disabled, or both. We've progressed a lot but a lot of people still see the "default" human as a white, cishet, neurotypical man. There isn't a default human you can be, because all of these different people exist. Just because there's a majority, doesn't mean it's the default. I hope that we can progress more so that people don't get angry whena more diverse person exists on the screen

[@Xeridanus]

Just tell them if we were to pander to the majority all the time, we'd be speaking Chinese.

[@doombybbr]

Who says that though? People dislike the medias "diversity", which basically boils down to stereotypical token characters with no personality outside of their identity. What people want is for the media to make a character interesting first and make them gay/trans/black second. They don't want someone making a boring character and then screaming that "oh look they happen to be female" to get attention points, because that kind of behaviour is insulting to the very people that the character is supposed to represent.

[@miniamo_]

@@doombybbr Here's the thing though- that's a good point, and I totally agree with you, but the people I'm talking about won't care. They see the existence of a diverse character, no matter what their actual characterization outside of that is, and they say you're "shoving x down their throat". To them, a cishet white male COULD have filled the role that character is occupying, and therefore any diversity was unnecessary and forced. And if, for some reason, a cishet white male COULDN'T have filled the role, the role itself is deemed unnecessary and forced to them. I see so many people across multiple social media platforms and even in real life who think this way, so I don't even know where to begin on the "who thinks this" bit. My short answer would be "too many". I've seen a few, very few people actually just straight up say the statement, but most people you ask when presented like this will probably say they disagree, only to let their actions prove otherwise.

[@Sammit00]

Kat has now officially done everything the original creators didn’t - she took inspiration from the community, developed their personalities to inform their look, and in this video she Responded to Criticism 👌

[@dangelle6283]

I'm a 60 year old trans woman and I saw those same type of people but that wasn't who I am and became the best me I could be. I have always been open about my being trans.

[@annas9016]

I ADORE this. Safespace's outfit is very slick and snowflake's emphasizes this serious, maybe a bit aloof or just introverted thing you were playing with in the first video. I like that you gave them both a joint theme (cyperpunk), cause these two look like they go together better than the last two. I am going to be checking in on that like counter every once in a while, cause I would love to see a redesign of the full cast. I am not sure how much content you would have to work with, but I would love to see a recurring series where you redesign characters.

[@ilyric5316]

Head canon that your original designs were their home made outfits (snowflake made both of them bc they probably make lots of cosplay outfits) and then these designs are what they start wearing once they’ve joined the rest of their team in the comic

[@LeafHasADHD]

So Snowflake is a weeaboo and safe space is a koreaboo, big mood

[@kaoriakira08]

These are my headcanon now lmao

[@Cruznick06]

You had me at "cyberpunk". These designs really feel like a "professional hero" outfit versus "vigilante/homebrew" hero outfit.

[@kairuiz8811]

I'm so SO scared that they're going to show Snowflake getting mad at people misgendering them. I can totally imagine a scene where they've had a bad day, the whole gang is getting food, Snowflake gets misgendered by a waiter or something and they get angry and yell or worse, cause chaos. That puts SUCH a bad light on nonbinary people, especially since the stereotype of genderqueer people being pissy if you get their pronouns wrong is already pretty big.

[@diddles3383]

Honestly, whenever somebody misgenders me, I politely tell them that I use they/them pronouns. I'd say that transphobes like to depict enbies as pissy babies in order to make us look like the bad guys and in turn being undeserving of any respect.

[@jjthepikazard212]

it's nice to know that other people can't think of themselves when their older. loves the redesigns

[@TinyLadyKris]

that doesn't sound nice at all. could you explain what you mean? not being able to think of yourself doesn't sound like a good thing.. unless i'm missing something.

[@jjthepikazard212]

@@TinyLadyKris it feels bad, but i appreciate knowing that other people have gone through the same thing. i thought it was just me up until today

[@TinyLadyKris]

@@jjthepikazard212 OH. I thought you were saying that it's good that people can't think for themselves when they are older. Instead you're saying something more along the lines of "when I was 16, I can't think of myself being an adult and being queer, so I'm glad I have a role model to show me what it's like" I'm stupid. I completely misunderstood your comment.

[@dragonbullets2763]

bruh

[@phoenixking732]

People: Non-binary people don't exist Me: Does that mean that I can stop paying my taxes and bills because I don't exist anymore?

[@2amCryptid]

us non-binarys have the power of invisibility didn't you know, I already get ignored so it must be true

[@rainingwhenidie]

be trans, do crime. Commit tax evasion and screw the system

[@phoenixking732]

@Al Nah man, I don't exist so they skipped me

[@maxithalo7796]

non-binary and also non-tax payer, the dream!

[@vanillune]

I remember hearing this exact thing about aspec people, guess we both don’t exist lol

[@ultramewmewfan]

These are absolutely gorgeous designs and as a NB person, I would definitely give a seal of approval. All the indepth thought you have given to these designs is something that career designers should take notes on especially when designing for marginalised minorities. Nonbinary characters are so few and far between with most of their character archs tend to be solely based around their gender which of course limits the scope of their creativity, perpetuating this problem. Jamie is very much a moment I relate with especially as I get a lot of flak sometimes in regards to my gender but it's beautiful to see a character being shown as we are. The work you are doing for the trans community is amazing and I hope you do more designing in the future. Honestly your videos could be amazing resources for character designers and writers.

[@diddles3383]

I recommend that you read a webcomic (completely free to read on Tapas!) called Vindicaris: one of the major characters is a nonbinary AMAB folk and their story mainly revolves around taking revenge on their abusive carer - It's also set in a cyberpunk/sci-fi setting. I can't recommend it enough, it's a really good comic.

[@amandamcdonald219]

Off topic but I love your hair

[@KatBlaque]

Thank you!!

[@epochii2756]

Yeah her hairs cool as fuck

[@labmjvoc]

When you started talking about what it’s like as a young trans person when you have no example of older trans adults, it felt like you put words to my experiences. As nb teenager whose known they’re nb for almost half of their life, I’ve never had characters or real people to connect to, much less a future to look forward to. Watching your content has been a big help in showing what life can be like as a trans adult. Also I’m really looking forward to more art content, I’m not that artsy myself, but watching you discuss your process is really interesting.

[@howdyboi377]

I know they're kinda the only big internet personality we have but Jeffrey Marsh is a wonderful non binary person who promotes positivity and self love

[@diddles3383]

Fellow enby here: I also *really* struggle with envisioning my future, not only because I'm nonbinary, but also because I'm aromantic, and our society puts so much emphasis on romantic relationships that I'm at a complete loss when thinking my future as an agender aromantic folk. It's disheartening, to say the least.

[@lexthedork4040]

@@diddles3383 Just try to live your best life. If you don't let things bother you too much, they'll seem a lot less significant. "Fake it till you make it" is actually a fairly healthy way to do things. Just surround yourself with people and things you love until everything comes together!

[@henloitsbones9290]

When you were talking about not being able to imagine a future for yourself and thinking it would be better if you weren't around, I honestly almost cried. I constantly struggle with self harm, dysphoria, and self-inflicted hatred, and I'm only 13. I cannot tell you how much I relate to that on a daily basis, and I don't think I could thank you enough for being who you are and being comfortable enough to continue on this platform, because you are the most inspirational person I know. You have touched the heart of this little trans boi and I can't wait to see how you continue to grow through this channel. Thank you SO much 💞

[@KatBlaque]

Aw now I'm crying!!! Thank you. Keep being yourself!!

[@chibij3983]

I have tissues, blankets and cookies for your sadness. Stay safe and keep being awesome

[@ilikerainbows9041]

Henlo It's Bones I am the same way, sadly

[@JC-jd1us]

Hey if your struggling with sucidal ideology please look into the Trevor Project and the Translife Line. I'm sorry your going through that. I was there when I was younger and I can tell you it does get better, it won't happen right away but it will happen. People do care about trans & non binaryfolks. I hope you have some support either from online or offline.

[@bionicsouthernbelle1539]

Stay strong kiddo! Stand tall and you’ll make it through this, you’re not alone, and we’re in this together. ❤️

[@BuffyRowan]

Superheroes have redesigned their costumes over time, even icons like Superman, Batman, Captain America, and Iron Man. So your first redesign could be what Snowflake and Safespace put together themselves. This could be the redesign after they've been heroes for a while, maybe gotten access to better armor materials and help from established heroes like the Avengers or Young Avengers. Both valid, and showing their development as heroes.

[@laketurner8289]

trans nonbinary person here. started crying when you talked about imagining your future as a trans person in a world with no space for you because that's definitely something ive been struggling with lately. ily and thank you for keeping your channel even when the attention gets uncomfortable

[@MythicalHex]

"are you a boy or a girl?" "I'm a ninja" "I mean like what's in your pants?" "shurikens"

[@scremmywemmy]

This is ten months late but GOD I LOVE THIS.

[@valerian_e_song]

As a zoomer can confirm that these redesigned characters feel like people I'd go to school with, especially with your headcanons about their political ideas and their general demeanor.

[@benjaminacuna8013]

The irony of the og color schemes was that blue was seen as passive color and pink was dynamic and until the 20th century boys wore dynamic and girls wore passive blues

[@diddles3383]

Ohhh, so like men being reasonable and women being unreasonable/hysterical?

[@ratboy2]

@@diddles3383 It was like... Softness and passion. Pink, because it's similar to red, was a boy's color because it was bright, energetic, fiery etc. Blue was a girl's color because it was soft and calm. Something like that.

[@gingerroot961]

you look like you’re in the flipping matrix and I am SO HERE FOR IT Also I’m a huge dnd nerd as well

[@culturedantagonist9647]

“We will survive this” -sign in the background Genuinely good words.

[@Little_Lepus]

Alternate Title: Trans Woman Demonstrates What Good Character Design Looks Like

[@RoryColle]

Definitely an improvement, even if I already loved the older designs, the new ones are just way sleeker and more modern and edgy, but still look like something that could be made at home by a couple of teens. I also really like your take on the characters' personalities, I can see Snowflake insisting on making both costumes just so they can make sure that their sibling looks cool enough to be seen around them! Super pumped to see if you do all the characters, I personally think you could do something very interesting with Screentime and B-Negative in particular, Screen seems to be basically the worst concept offensiveness of the twins aside, and B-Negative just seems made for your goth aesthetic!

[@xww6849]

“If this video gets three thousand likes, I’ll make more redesigns” [frantically checks to make sure I liked immediately]

[@EmmaB843]

I love the personality that shines through your redesigns. (side note: I totally get the vibe SafeSpace would basically live in crop tops/cargo shorts/flip flops)

[@saosina]

I really like the shift to cyberpunk, and the clean and distinct silhouettes are really doing it for me. My only real criticism would be colour - from a cyberpunk perspective it works, but in terms of superhero design I feel like the muted colours lose a bit of pop. I feel like if I imagine these characters in the context of a superhero team, a fight scene or crowd scene could be a bit visually indistinct. It works better for Snowflake imo because they have quite a unique silhouette and a big block of colour in terms of the cape, but particularly with Safespace I think from a distance when these characters aren't the focus of the scene they might drop into the background a bit. I would have liked to see maybe a couple of big panels of pink on him, or maybe bring up the main colour of his suit from black to like a dark magenta so the pink accents still pop but there's some brightness to it, both because superheroes have a tendency to colourful costumes for a storytelling reason and because from what I see about his character he seems like quite a bright airy person in contrast to maybe the edgier angrier vibe his sibling has, and it would be cool to see that reflected in colour as well as form. Altogether though I really love these designs (and the tip about loose blocking for costume design is really useful! I will be carrying that into future work!)

[@anniesearle6181]

As an nb person with a binary trans brother, it's really hard when my family have been really accepting to him and won't even acknowledge my identity (I've been told that nb isn't real and that I#m just a snowflake by my closest sibling)- most of them also won't acknowledge that I'm autistic either (I've been told that I'm not disabled on multiple occasions). If I had proper representation, it'd do so much for me because I could get my family to watch it, to understand that character and be able to say 'hey, that's me, treat me how they're being treated', and it would be a gamechanger for me

[@rizziequeen5253]

I wish Kat could be on the design team, but Idk if that's what she wants. These characters are just so much better!

[@bessh2501]

I love both of these designs, but especially Safe Space’s! His new armor kind of looks like football padding, which fits in with his jock backstory.

[@kjonely5787]

I’m not much of a commenter but I just wanted to add that there are, or at least have been until the very recent past, people who don’t discover their own identity not because of repression but because of lack of awareness. This is probably less true for trans people because of the dysphoria but growing up in Oklahoma I didn’t even realize anything other than cisgendered straight people existed until I was in the seventh grade and then I suddenly made a lot more sense to myself... that’s also part of the power of representation.

[@genericname8727]

I think a lot of trans people feel “wrong” but don’t quite understand why or realise it’s not the norm and that there are alternatives. So the lack of awareness impacts many trans people

[@kit2060]

right! it took me til like 13 to realise that men arent the only one that can be gay and gay women exist cause both irl and in shows n stuff they werent anywhere

[@poisoncrisp]

I feel that. I'm russian, and I didn't even really knew anything about trans people. Just before I turned 18, that is. The only representation there was is ugly jokes about trans woman, and trans man? Don't know about them. Like, I always felt "off", but I knew nothing, I just assumed that's how everyone feels, and that I just have to live with that. It was terrible

[@morbidcuriosity1172]

K Jonely Wow same, I live in Oklahoma and I didn’t even know about trans people until I was 12

[@andrejmarkusov5500]

@@morbidcuriosity1172 lol same. I always felt dysphoric but I also never knew the possibility of lgbt+ people existing, so I suppressed all my dysphoric thoughts to maybe being insecure. But of course it never felt 100% that way, because I'm trans. Until recently I thought I was just going to have to live with it for the rest of my life, and I thought there was no way out. Now that I know I can transition and I finally have a definite answer to my discomfort, I feel better. Representation is so important.

[@bananapuding866]

Serving the goth hunter/warrior look, I live for it

[@ilianadweebury8457]

Kat is making AU outfits for her head cannon OC’s, change my mind (Joking lol your art is really good and I appreciate how much you’ve educated people in subjects that not even Marvel could bother to even give a sh*t about. Love you Kat ❤️)

[@rainbow_fox_]

I've also gotta add that honestly, whenever I saw these characters' names it made me incredibly uncomfortable, no matter who was speaking of them. but now, with these designs, I honestly couldn't care less what their names are. I think you totally nailed in making them actually reclaim and own the insults thrown at them.

[@jonesyxperia7]

Can you make a class on Skillshare teaching digital art!? 🥺

[@mikee4462]

You look like an actual superhero and a badass one at that

[@connorsimpson5353]

Kat... of course, we want more redesigns... don't tempt us like this! 🤣 I'd love to see your interpretation of B-Negative, with you throwing in your own little goth nods, which I stan so hard. As well, I'd love to see Trailblazer as well. I think out of all the characters, I liked Trailblazer the most (which is kinda like saying I hated her design the least lol). She seemed inspired by Native peoples, maybe Polynesian? She feels like an interesting character to explore, at least for me. I think the "internet gas" kid is probably one of my least liked characters (and maybe the one you could have the most fun with!). Also, love the fact that these new redesigns are cyberpunk. We gotta stan. Not gonna lie, I wish that there was more color... like... everywhere... but that's just my personal taste.

[@princessnikoblackwood4041]

Gosh, this is what I was thinking too. If anyone can do a goth vampire kid justice, it's gotta be Kat.

[@fruitcake6372]

Trailblazer isn’t the worst, but with her power and colors, she really just makes me think Dora the Explorer

[@edenorsomething7630]

I think this is going to be long, but you're such a good influence and I'm really happy for you to have such a following and a place to express kindness and respect. You're the reason for people change their views and open themselves to a new idea. I myself was someone that would say something along the lines of "representation is pointless", but I myself repressed my identity and didn't even notice that. But when you see someone that has a situation like your own, you feel like you truly matter and what you're going through is not just something to shrug it off. Thank you for being a positive person about important matters, and for being such a inspiration of self-love and acceptance. We need more people like you, love from Brazil :D

[@greyv9107]

as someone who is more partial to cyberpunk than dnd i really love your reredisign. i also empathize with your struggle of representation, though a bit differently. i hope you continue to do art content, its nice in between true tea vids and your way of designing characters is super fun to watch

[@Losbolas-]

Dude please post more art and design videos!!! You are so creative and I can’t wait

[@tibbarnogard8404]

cΗαθτÏC DФÖd you’re probably a lovely human being, but the out of context use of Greek letters in your name is getting to me on an unreasonably emotional level

[@aquabluerose7734]

@@tibbarnogard8404 LOL

[@knife1154]

I love the designs, I'm not black but the lack of trans poc is really relatable. I want more diverse characters. I just don't want that to be their only personality trait.

[@Meanbomb]

🙄

[@rainingwhenidie]

yeah. Either someone just makes a diverse character for brownie points (most media tbh), or so many people hate on a type of media for having a diverse character like those people don't actually exist. I'm not trans or black, but I'm bi and neurodivergent and the lack of good rep for autistic and bi people is infuriating, so I can't imagine what it's like for someone who's poc and/or trans/nonbinary. Then, the mainstream representation isn't that good or it just holds some prejudiced stereotype that doesn't really help the cause. I hope that in the future this gets better and that lgbt, disabled, and poc people get better representation and don't just get used for goodboy points. We need more "this character is poc and lgbt and it affects their life, but it's not their only personality trait and they're a very fleshed out character that could be a realistic person" and less of "This character who's sexualiy I did not mention throughout the entire story at all, has been gay the entire time. Am I inclusive yet?" or "this character is gay, look at how gay they are, they're the gay best friend, isn't it so cool that they're super gay?"

[@grimr.599]

These designs are really sick, I love the color pop on black aesthetic.

[@danniruthvan3265]

These re-redesigns are wonderful! They look like characters you want to know more about. The originals look like blank-slate background characters whose role within a story is always going to be tied to each other. But these outfits look like what two siblings would come up with to coordinate with one another while still each having their own style. They look like characters that are related but who each have independent lives.

[@earthdragon7823]

Since your last video I started watching some more re designs of these two, and the amount of people who used she/her pronouns for snowflake was... sad. As a non-binary person myself I know that not all non-binary people use they/them (or any other neutral pronoun), but it was blatently clear that these people just didn't want this character to be non-binary in their design, maybe not explicitly but still. Although I don't really see myself within your desgin of snowflake head cannon wise, I definitely know others who would. And to add to that I relate to your design more so than any other I've seen, especially having a afab non-binary character with a flat chest, yet isn't hyper masc. Having had top surgery it's just lovely to see! I'd love to see more art on this channel, maybe you could sell some prints or tshirts of the designs you make in your art videos?

[@clearlynotaneldritchhorror8798]

Your designs keep getting better! I wanna dress like snowflake and I want Safespace's bag. Also I love the way the colors on Safespace's armor looks.

[@jupesontherun]

you’re so pretty and i love the re-designs! as a non-binary person i really relate to the personality you made for snowflake. the last redesign video was actually the first one of your videos i ever saw and i was instantly in love because not only are you fighting for people of color but you’re also fighting for the lgbtq+ community and while i’m not a person of color i still really appreciate it as people are people no matter their sexuality, gender, or skin color

[@darkmoon_dawg]

Very happy to see more art from you! And this whole look your serving today is I c o n I c

[@em-xj9hd]

As a zoomer tran, creators like you and Contrapoints have been so influential for me growing up and understanding how lucky I am. I never realized before watching your videos how much trans discourse has developed in the last 10-15 years. My view of my own transness and trans discourse is so different from your's, and I absolutely love your videos. They've given me a less toxic and more substantive view of trans discourse and how to engage with it. Thank you so much, I love your designs!

[@Flatcetera]

They look so much more cohesive this second time around! Specially safespace, congrats Kat

[@aspen.coloradx]

I know you're not specifically an art channel but I would love to see more art themed videos on here.

[@LadyxBleu]

I really like Snowflake's cape. It really feels like they're a young, teen nerd.

[@unwingedwren9907]

I know he's DC not Marvel but looking at them in the end I just thought I could see them hanging out with Static

[@icreatetocreate4905]

I already liked the previous designs, but I love love love love these new ones! They look like they could jump from your canvas right into a high-tension action scene! You're an amazing artist!

[@apophis7712]

Funny enough, I'm a Zoomer who found out about trans women on Jerry Springer... TERRIBLE SHOW FOR EDUCATION

[@horseenthusiast9903]

That sucks. I'm a fellow zoomer, and I found out about trans women when my parents told me that my dad is trans and they were getting a divorce, so...that's one way to spring it I guess lol. My parents are pretty cool with each other tho and my dad is a MUCH better parent and person now that she's not trying to be a macho ideal and getting super depressed about it

[@user-tv3mc5tr9b]

Venus and Bluebells wait what are they mtf or ftm because your saying dad and she in the same sentence. So just a biiiit of advice for you or anyone who sees this comment you probably shouldn’t be saying dad and she when talking about the same person. I mean that’s technically msigendering and This is coming from a trans person. But don’t take this the wrong way I’m not trying to be rude i just feel the need to point it out for future reference. I would be happy if someone called me he but then I would be swiftly dissapointed if they said I was a mom right after. But then again I don’t know the situation. I’m not your parent.

[@debleb166]

yikes

[@user-tv3mc5tr9b]

debleb wait hold up is that yikes in response to my comment

[@debleb166]

@@user-tv3mc5tr9b nah its in response to op, not the best way to find out about trans people O_O

[@pidgeonpatrol861]

These actually inspired me to try and redesign them myself, and it wasn't just fun, but was also a really good exercise. So thank you!

[@emberschaul]

As a nonbinary person, hearing "their breasts" in reference to a nb person was cathartic

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

10:12 I'm actually happy to know you're in a place in your life where you can be so open about who you are online. I've been following you since before I even knew *I* was trans and you were talking about it then. And as a trans person it feels good to see people like me somewhere. I can't always describe it, but it's good. So when I rec you to others I say you're a trans KZbinr and I feel like sharing your content and you being openly trans is good cuz I have mutuals and people who follow me who are Black and trans and so seeing you with this big KZbin channel is going to feel good to them. For me, it just... feels important, it feels good to know that I'm part of such a large and diverse community and it feels good to know I can spread that feeling to others. Sometimes it feels like we don't talk about Black trans folk outside of murder statistics, so for me, it's important that our Black trans siblings can see themselves in the world like I can see myself.

[@Will-ql6di]

Safespace's 'kilt' reminds me more of a Greco-Roman pteruges if anything. Amazing work as always :)

[@brightcea719]

I love that you took critiques and redesigned the characters! I love the Re-re-re design the cyberpunk look is great!

[@LifeAvoiding]

Omg why are you so pretty You’re like- you look like you’re dressed to fit into the series AS a superhero You’re so pretty w ow- like- aaaa!! You’re an amazingly pretty and your art is so cool!!! 🥺🥺💗

[@lukeycharms]

obsessed with these videos, kat! you are so talented and insightful. this is the kind of content that gets me excited about this platform.

[@KatBlaque]

Aw thank you!!

[@lucasvitorino1975]

I really liked the first redesign! There was so much more depth to the characters than the original one. Even if they didn't look like superheroes, you showed the character's personality through their clothes. This new CyberPunk design it is even better! They look more like superheroes this time. I loved it!

[@bobroyce6862]

Your design for Safespace is so Badass now. Huge props

[@ratking2501]

oh i ADORE the overall black scheme with the pops of color. very cool

[@iyxon]

y'all better be hitting the like button, this is entertaining and informative!!

[@cormorantcolors]

Your original Snowflake was definitely my favorite redesign, but I love the updates to both.

[@Ren-ev5rh]

KAT PLEASE CONTINUE MAKING ART VIDEOS! You're so talented and i really enjoy watching you talk about stuff while you do art lol no offense to some art channels but sometimes they lack of a lot of things (like the voice over or what they're talking about) and even when they're really talented their videos get kinda boring :C

[@creaturetapped]

i really, really love these redesigns. the originals felt so empty and devoid of personality and i couldn't imagine them existing inside a story and interacting with each other and the other characters. even the smaller changes, like changing their hairstyles, immediately breathes life into them where there wasn't any before. i think you did a great job!

[@nounsking]

I was so happy to see that a trans person was redesigning these characters and giving them some depth! I want you to know that your version of Snowflake is definitely someone who I, as a non-binary person, can relate to, and identify with. I hated these characters when I first saw them, but you've made me love them. I think your art is amazing, and hope you continue to create. You've inspired me, and connected me to these characters, so thank you very much.

[@harlowe8691]

the lovely commentary on the importance of reference both for drawing AND writing is just **chefs kiss**

[@joaquingaravagliaolivera2406]

I love your re redesign and though I agree with most of what you said here and in your previous video I think that is a bit too soon to judge this characters as much as they have been. I mean, there so many ways to "fix" this characters inside the comics itself, like, I don't know, safespace is a tipical jock, what if this came from a big brother trying too hard to be accepting, just random idea that well written can fix this, mostly because it can lead to new and better designs, I mean, they are bad, but ultimately the design is just a part of the chsracters, the other is their story. What really make thing that this characters are not as horrible as people making them out to be is funnily enough is the Internet gas, that is a clear throwback to the superhero origin from the golden age. Beside that, I really loved hearing you talk about representation. Representation's value is something that have always been difficult to me. I don't know, even when I love finding gay and bi guys in tv(and you already know how few bi representation there is out there),that never affected my expectations for myself. I could be that accepting my bisexuality has always been the least of my problems (I have really big problems with anxiety).

[@apparentdistance9752]

i don't think ive ever seen an artist so quick to accept their mistakes and make them better !!! it's a great quality to have, love the redesign

[@apparentdistance9752]

not gonna lie kat, as a trans guy, its the work of people like you that's given me hope for my own future

[@liz257]

Omg your outfits are so cute! I'd love a cyberpunk lookbook or smt

[@7airgear]

First of all, love Safespace's redesign. Its something I could actually imagine someone wearing. The little shape of the pant hips and the midriff are great! It feels a lot more modern and fitting without the armor (but I liked that too, as its own thing). Also, I fricking adore Snowflake's outfit! They kinda remind me of Robin from the original Teen Titans for some reason, but in the best way possible. I think I am in love! I would genuinely love to see these characters in a comic or movie thanks to you!

[@ald00I]

As an 18-year-old enby, i feel the 'not being able to envision my future' on like a cellular level..

[@lexusheid5337]

As someone who is nonbinary, I cannot tell you how much I absolutely love your redesign of Snowflake. I just absolutely adore them and feel so connected to them and can actually see myself in them in a way I just can’t with the original design. I love the criticisms you took and how you changed the designs. They’re just so good 💙💜

[@LaytonsLoveliest]

I did really enjoy the last ones but I can agree these are way more superhero looking especially from the modern canon. Love it!

[@Kimmie6772]

I what's the best thing about these designs is that I can actually imagine a voice for snowflake. It looks so simple, but works so well.

[@YizzTheEunuch]

I like your bangin' costume/outfit. You look bad-ass and sexy in this video!

[@ill_insect]

I didn’t think the designs could get better from the last video but you amazed me with these updated designs. I’m glad that you listened to the criticism and updated the designs to be more modern and more like superhero outfits. I love the designs!

[@zenithquasar9623]

Omg, your cyberpunk outfit rocks!

[@ocinidolegna]

Your new redesigns feel so alive. Im so connected to safespace. I enjoy male characters who dont really care about how they act or dress. There's nothing stronger than not caring what others think, but for some reason ive seen so many people, men specifically, getting so up in arms about making sure people dont think theyre this or that (the classic "i love you bro, no homo").

[@johnloverman]

"3,000 likes" Kat that's basically saying "if this gets one comment I will redesign the other three." you've been planning to do the other three the whole time!!!!

[@KatBlaque]

Exposed lol

[@adrianaangelbaraona6758]

I really like how you accepted the critism, not everyone has that courage to do it again and listening to others

[@jayfeather464]

Everyone like this video so we can see the entire squad 😭😭😭 living for this redesign 😭💙💗

[@joscheel1896]

You did a WAAAAY better job at redesigning them to look like a superhero duo this time. Their outfits are so cohesive while still expressing the individuality of 5he characters. I love it!

[@annlustelli2201]

Snowflake is a weeb and Safespace is a koreaboo, that’s how you know they’re twins.

[@mist1241]

these redesigns are so good! I know they're both marvel characters, but these costumes seriously look like something straight out on young justice, good job. and thanks for the thoughtful discussion too!

[@missflower6142]

Imagine having a superpower that doesn't help you at all and can only be used only on other people. If you can't defend yourself you'll be a liability to other superheros on the team.

[@Sleepy_on_the_moon]

Can I just say that you come off as such a warm and kind person and it’s really welcoming and it makes me really happy. I don’t know, just you putting so much care into the redesigns is wonderful.