RedGard Shower Floor Waterproofing | Full Tutorial Video |

[@jonatanrodriguez5187]

New to your page. Great content. Can I ask why you didn’t use pea gravel before doing final fill of deck mud around drain? Isn’t that clogging up the weap holes and not letting water get through?

[@1971VoiceoftheMummy]

10:34 Is this the same as the schluter or 3 layer poly? this looks thinner that you are using.

[@Season-qz8nh]

bro amassing job. thanks for shearing

[@Matt-lj6sc]

Hey like the video lots of good info thank you but really want to know what kind of fabric membrane you use and where to buy? any info on that would be much appreciated

[@neoyid]

Same here... Having a hard time finding a redgard compatible sheet like that in the Los Angeles area

[@trina2366]

clean cut work...this is not going to leak at all for yearsss

[@frankcatrini4816]

have you done these on a wooden subfloor? i dont see a problem on a concrete slab but on a wood slab im just not sure if the filled in divot mud would hold. after a few years its possible that mud in the divot area might loosen and what you might see is a circular crack in the tile. im almost thinking that after you fill in the divot, more fabric is needed on top to bridge the 2 muds together. this wont stop the divot mud from loosening because its on a wood sub floor, but perhaps stop it from cracking if it does

[@Bipolar559]

Would it be a good idea to put pebbles and before packing the mud? To prevent the deck mud from covering the weeping holes?

[@egformula]

Yes most definitely.

[@chadr00]

@@egformula with the waterproofing membrane why is there a concern with the weep holes? The weep holes will never have water coming in right? I thought you had to use a drain designed for membrane install such as wonder cap or flo fx or similar?

[@egformula]

@@chadr00 well let's say a Grout joint goes bad or tile cracks or whatever over the surface, then water will go down to the waterproofing and slide down to the weep holes.

[@Matt-lj6sc]

Ah nevermind i cought that info from up , just had to look a little harder, unfortunately that site looks like their all sold out. Is there a different reinforced fabric/brand that will work in its place?

[@citionriver]

Awesome idea. I already did pre-slope, pan liner, and final mud slap. Then I did a water test and my mud pack was wet for almost 4 days until fully dry( I live in AZ in a dry climate). Which I hated. Watched your video, and now I will take off a little bit around the drain and will do the same as you did, that way my mud will be fully dry. Im not worrying about the moisture sandwich as water should not even get there to the layer where I have the pan liner now installed. I saw ppl just covering the top layer with Redgard without the divot method like yours but I like that some water will drain through those holes at the bottom of the drain with your method. Awesome work. Time will tell how it will perform 🎭

[@egformula]

Cool Thanks for the comment, I think Divot is the best way to keep mud dry etc..

[@raenenava925]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 All deck mud a the same tile are better.

[@brianholland2916]

Might wanna dilute the first later on cement to prime!!! Try another video

[@kevinkolinen6181]

What’s a divot area? That’s not standard practice. How the hell do you tile that bowl? Why not a standard slope from corner to drain?

[@egformula]

Divot area is a substitute for a preslope, all showers require preslope before any final mud is done, even if your using a rubber pan. Standard practice is preslope, Liner, then final mud. Divot Method is final mud, & liner Basically you can skip a step. However the main reason for Divot Method is to avoid moisture under Mud-Pan which could create mold or the smell of mold etc.. Divot Method actually goes way back it usto be standard practice we just don't see it as much now in days. Btw after waterproofing you fill the Divot area with mud before tiling to be flush with drain. End of video I show how its looks filled & complete. @ 18:00

[@1971VoiceoftheMummy]

18:22 I'm a DIY Dad trying to start a shower mortar pan over a subfloor. I didn't see the pea gravel at the weep holes I keep reading about. Can you explain? Is the mortar porous enough to not need the gravel?

[@egformula]

The motar is definitely porous so water will definitely get through however pea gravel is common practice it helps accumulate the water so it drips into weap hole and I wish I wouldn't of forgotten it for this video but believe me iv done tile 20yrs + if I forget to use pea gravel wouldn't harm it at all just would be preferable to use.

[@inkfusiontattooempire9172]

So this may sound like a dumb question, but the thinset will 100% stick to the membrane?

[@egformula]

@inkfusiontattooempire9172 actually if you dont know, its not a dumb question because you may be thinking how would thinset bond to something rubbery etc.. but yes as long as it's (Modified) Thinset then it's all good.

[@Pri79111]

Nice video. Question do have a video showing how you divet around the drain,how you installed the tile and did you install a liner underneath the mud pan

[@egformula]

No liner underneath Mud-Pan required is actually why is being done as the Divot Method, its actually either way traditional or Divot and lms i should have a video let me look for it found it ⤵️ kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKevl42aoNimbZo

[@neoyid]

Great video! I'm doing exactly this now... But I can't find where to buy the white fleece that covers the floor. In Los Angeles area. Can only find 6" strip for redgard, or large orange sheets for hardi system.

[@kevinlawson4866]

great video should u still use a pan liner under the sand and what ratio should i use for sand and concrete

[@palmano5182]

Nope. You don’t want to sandwich moisture. Come on down Ken. Ill show you the dry method. :-).

[@RichSobocinski]

That divot looks awfully steep. When I did mine I did a gentle slope from the edge of the wall.

[@sophiafleming7449]

This Is Awesome! I love your style

[@egformula]

Thank You!

[@PlumbNutz]

Well done, only thing I might add is the consensus seems to be that laticrete Hydro ban is a better waterproofing product than Red Guard. They even say you don't have to use a fabric but it's a good idea to use it of course.

[@nnicknicoo9096]

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[@sophiafleming7449]

Hello! You do an awesome job! Loving your videos! Can you do this pivot process with a 12 linear centered drain? Or would you include the linear drain with the mud pan and then red guard the whole pan together with the fabric sheet. I truly appreciate All your advice. You Are Phenomenal

[@egformula]

Ty, and yes just as you described linear drain with mud and redgard together with fabric forsure.. which reminds me it's exactly similar to the Kerdi linear drain system except they have some super expensive Kerdi vs the fabric.

[@sophiafleming7449]

Thank you so much! Your divot direction is a game changer! Thank you for sharing! I am so glad that I found your videos!

[@egformula]

@Sophia Fleming Thats great to hear have alot more videos and topics in mind that should ans will be out there soon enough..

[@jimkuhl7622]

Have you used redguard on a wood subfloor? Raised foundation here

[@jdavid118]

Good video man. I've been a tileman for over 20 years. Always used a traditional liner but might try this out

[@AdrenalineRushMX]

dont that redguard shit crack after a while

[@egformula]

Yes sir works great when done correctly using the fabric helps prevent from cracking when applied too thick, if you don't use the fabric then I would recommend 2 coats that aren't too thick. Rn im at a different then vídeo doing 30 pans and all are passing just right.

[@jdavid118]

@egformula that's what's up. I just helped a guy out the other day that was in a bind. He didn't use a pan liner and I put down tar paper and lath, mudded the shower floor up to a Schluter drain system and then he covered it with Kerdi

[@egformula]

@@jdavid118 Nice thats pro! Kerdi is cool too been a while since I use it but I do like it.

[@jdavid118]

@@egformula thanks man, keep up the good work!

[@henrycole8705]

Ahuh. Pan liner is best. Your weak spot is a wooden curb

[@jj1234346]

Seal the grout?

[@egformula]

Yeah doesn't hurt

[@EmanuelGagliano]

I put deck mud down over plywood then the Oates vinyl membrane then another layer of deck mud. Now I’m thinking about putting red gard on top of the deck mud before I start tiling. What do you think? Thx

[@egformula]

Technically you shouldn't tbh, if so you may end up trapping water in between which could also cause it to take longer to dry and its just suppose to drain out properly.

[@palmano5182]

What is that fabric and have you ever had it lift not using thinset

[@gartierimelendez3168]

Where do you that fabric liner?

[@vizrios8762]

Can I do this divot method if the drain is close to the wall?

[@txmade4371]

How is red guard gonna crack if it’s rubber?

[@SciaticaDrums]

If it's applied too thick and the first layer isn't fully dry before you apply the second coat.

[@GuichoThe1st]

Can this technique be used for a linela drain?

[@egformula]

Most definitely, I made a video on a type linela drain but any kind works too video 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jajYf6iehbCSmdU

[@gartierimelendez3168]

Where do you get that fabric liner?

[@egformula]

www.egformula.com/collections/all/products/waterproof-fracture-fabric

[@stevensonsausal]

Please can i buy the fabric liner

[@egformula]

Its in stock

[@Bbbbbbbbbbb-f1w]

Hello. How many showers have you done using this method? Have you ever had any complaints?

[@egformula]

Alot of showers no complaints, this method has more benefits then typical pans.

[@Bbbbbbbbbbb-f1w]

Definitely unconventional but having built 12 showers myself over the years, your way will work.

[@OGCJ10]

What type of drain is that ?

[@moemoes5989]

looks like just a regular 3 piece oatey drain.

[@handyman2155]

Good job! what are your thoughts on Hydro Ban liquid?

[@egformula]

Its a great product, Probably even so more than redgard

[@handyman2155]

@@egformula Thanks for your reply.

[@mattmag3089]

Dude this method rocks. Framed my house for curbless but plumber put in a regular oatey drain. This is going to work great. Forget the pvc

[@egformula]

That's great yeah this has its benefits.

[@egformula]

I haven't seen nobody on yt do it this way. Subscribe lol

[@vapdivrr5656]

I like the method but why wouldn't you just swap out to a bonded drain ? By keeping this type of drain , it seems you have to go thru to many steps, especially doing the mud divot. What do you think the advantages are with a 3 piece drain and this system compared to a bonded drain and that system? Is it simply the price? Because this is definitely cheaper. Two more question, how is your durock fastened to the 2x4s , Do you screw then redgaurd? And no pebbles on weep holes? Thanks

[@egformula]

Not sure what you mean by a bonded drian im assuming you mean the traditional where first you do a preslope, Waterproof then mud pack it directly to the drain? If so one of its benefits and probably the most important one would be to avoid moisture/water to the mudpack vs the other way which water would have to travel to through the mud before reaching the preslope & the waterproof and causing the mud to hold water for a long time. I think I have a clip of the installer that did this same shower before I did and the mud was holding tons of water. I will upload a short video showing it, i will be under a YT Shorts after this message. The durock yes your correct screw, & fill with thinset and then Waterproof. And your 100% correct must use pebble for weap holes or broken small pieces of tile for substitute.

[@vapdivrr5656]

@@egformula one example of a bonded drain is a schlueter drain and they don't require a pre slope (single float) these are used normally with the schluter system with a membrane sort of how you used the fabric but also can be used exactly as you did, the only difference between your method and one used with a bonded drain is the divot. With a bonded drain you do not need to do the divot because the drain is different, so you just mud flat. I like the flo fx drains instead of schlueter. So the only difference is you have to install this drain then everything else is the same and this drain adapts right to the 3 piece drain like in your video. The 3 piece drains are really for pan liners not single float systems but the bonded drains are specifically made for single float...in the end im sure your system works just as good but perhaps an extra step , not sure but look into the flo fx drains....

[@PlumbNutz]

@@vapdivrr5656 with a bonded drain there is fabric that is glued to the plastic body of the drain and I have seen this fail at this point.

[@frankcatrini4816]

@@PlumbNutz i suppose but if you see the method in this video he is also using a fabric on drain. Anyway who knows , although I try and follow all the latest approved methods, I sometimes think all these fancy products are just pushed to make someone money.

[@rolanddelacruz6440]

@@egformula He meant Flo Fx drain etc. Great stuff!

[@zachrawlings6523]

Super slick work, brobro

[@egformula]

Thank you bro