IN response to Isaac Ostrom's failed test of Redgard where he showed water blisters and cracking of Redgard, behold, a REAL test with results when applied properly, on 4 products !
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@zimpler83404 ай бұрын
I’m a licensed home improvement contractor, I built my first shower 8 years ago, after watching videos on KZbin. I followed your guidance to the letter! I’ve done about 15 showers so far!
@MrJramirex2 жыл бұрын
This is very informative and the results are pretty much as expected based on your previous tests. One suggestion for your next experiment is to use water with a strong dye. This will help visualizing any leaks, if they ever happen. The mortar will also show dye if it ever got wet and dried out. Thanks!
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
I don't think with cardboard that dye would help. The leak in the Aquadense showed in the 1st hour, staining the cardboard.
@fabulouspinkmk10 Жыл бұрын
The things you do for subscribers are appreciated. It shows you desire the best for others.👍 Plus you are fair, with product reviews.
@rubendavila9076 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video I'm a handyman (mostly painting, drywall, carpentry, plumbing and electric) but in my personal opinion is that if it leaks everywhere is the product fault, if it leaks only in some areas is workmanship, again tanks for the effort to do the video!!!
@ajalbetjr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I worked for a flooring distributor in NJ for 19 years, and they carried Custom Building Products (Redguard) products as well as Mapei, Redgard is a fantastic product but like any other has to be applied properly! It's really bad how much negative influence posters can have on a product that they used incorrectly...
@liamjenkins82 Жыл бұрын
Nice. As a welder I might just build my self a stainless steel shower tray and walls. Fully welded. It'll never leak!
@AutismusPrime69 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@GuerreroF5 Жыл бұрын
Would the temperature exchange be intense? Like cold as can be or hot as hell?
@AutismusPrime69 Жыл бұрын
@@GuerreroF5 it will be fine. We're not talking about a space shuttle
@GuerreroF5 Жыл бұрын
@@AutismusPrime69 imagine if someone actually put some water in one of these boxes and left it there for like a week. It would mold and shit but I would love to see that. It takes no work lol
@waymenlawrence206411 ай бұрын
Would it be better to use aluminum?
@lawrencebaisley72972 ай бұрын
Project very well done. I wonder if the Aquadefense would have given the same results as the rest of it weren't old?
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
And here I thought you would slam Isaac's method, then you basically just said he did it the way the instruction says to do...good for you keeping it real and avoiding YT drama ✌
@donnybankstone50092 жыл бұрын
Isaac is more of a salesman, Starr Tile actually cares!
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think on all his Redgard experiments he failed at, it was squarely because he followed instructions.
@saadjarrad8384 Жыл бұрын
very informative subject and a very realistic effective experiment....thank you for your time and for the great video content.
@skyf78759 ай бұрын
Amazing tests, thanks so much!!
@truckingwithtobee26 күн бұрын
I wish you were in Vegas! I just had a walk in shower put in just this April and we had to rip up half of our floor in the bathroom because there’s a leak coming from the bottom of the shower. I’m making the same idiots come back and fix it, but I’m really afraid to let them even do that but I spent $20,000 on this bathroom.
@stacks042 жыл бұрын
That's old aqua defense for sure. At least a year now it's been turned similar to the hydro ban coloring. At first I was angry about the change because it appears so light after drying that it looks about half the thickness of the old color but after inquiring about the change with mapei it was explained about some guys not being able to see lines through the old colors.
@bretburt73178 ай бұрын
The one time I used Aqua Defense, you could peel it off with your finger nails. Even worse with a notched trowel. That was years ago so hopefully they have improved the formulation. And yes, freezing probably would effect the product. It definitely does with paint.
@michaelbacile84392 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I cracked up at the cancer joke. I install all kinds of floors with my father and as you know pretty much every product we use says that. We always say “good thing we’re in Florida!” Good test, hit pretty much all points possible
@timthetoolman9659 Жыл бұрын
I came here from the video you posted today, this is evidence-based proof that's undisputable, excellent experiment
@TheHomePros62212 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why issacs failed is because he applied it to glass, glass isn’t porous and didn’t let the product completely dry and cure underneath because it couldn’t get the air it needed, basically the top of it dried but trapped in the moisture and didn’t let it fully cure.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely...coaching is a tuff gig
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile 🤣
@donaldadams47132 жыл бұрын
A pvc membrane isn’t porous either so using plexiglass shouldn’t have made a difference.
@TheHomePros62212 жыл бұрын
@@donaldadams4713 umm no one puts red guard on a pvc liner
@donaldadams47132 жыл бұрын
@@TheHomePros6221 correct, I was wrong I thought you were talking about the deck mud on the plexiglass. But you are right he didn’t use deck mud
@holdernewtshesrearin54712 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Interesting. And goes to show how effective liquid waterproofing coatings are. I'm gonna stand by my technique of using fiberglass mesh cloth/tape in all seams, corners and the drain and applying 2-3 coats on the walls and building up 6-9 coats on the floor, though. If nothing else the process helps to prevent human error through redundancy and perhaps even overkill. It does work though and it also allows for excessive movement of today's poorly built homes over the years and possible breakdown or hardening of the materials in long term use. Anything can happen over a 10, 20 or 30 year or longer time span. To each his own though. I think 3 good coats is sufficient BUT.....if you miss a few pin holes.......yikes! Subsequent coats will definitely prevent that. 3 coats will generally cover 100% but a 4th coat definitely will and a few coats on top of that lends additional strength and flexibility imo.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
6-9 coats ??? Yeah overkill. But to be fair no liner was used, the leak would NOT have happened with a liner of kerdi under it....then again kerdi & other clothe membranes on surface is what most prefer.
@holdernewtshesrearin54712 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile - maybe. But Kerdi is preferred due to speed not effectiveness imo. I'll just stay with LWPM systems for now.
@holdernewtshesrearin54712 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile - I say 6 to 9 coats but I've rarely ever used more than 6. Depending on how smooth the finish is I think, it sometimes does go on quite thin and could require more coats though.
@sterlinghousewashpressurew95945 ай бұрын
With red guard, we would run a small electric heater and fart fan on to cure the product a few hours during each coat. Just to help it along removing moisture. As product cures it shrinks thats where potential issues can arise. The 2nd and 3rd I prefer a very warm room for better adhesion. But that was back 15 years ago, with any coatings adhesion is everything
@landispowers92673 ай бұрын
Great video! I like your style, and your direct no nonsence approach. I have question for you? I want to build a roman tub out of double 3/4 ply wood. How would you go about doing this?
@skol4life297 Жыл бұрын
I love these box tests like Bob has said don’t put your backer board into the mortar pan. Which is demonstrated beautifully on how it can wreak havoc on the boxes and a shower build.
@CF-33008 күн бұрын
I recently spent thousands of dollars having a shower fixed and tile and drywall replaced with cement board and the builder grade tiles replaced with expensive ones from Spain. The people who fixed it used Red Guard. Should I be worried?
@StarrTile8 күн бұрын
@@CF-3300 why would you be worried ?? I've been using it I've been using it for at least 10 years without any issues
@akextremerickert Жыл бұрын
Hey really cool video. I'm a tile guy uses the laticrete waterproofing. Great to see this and give me some confidence and peace of mind
@craigwilliams10736 ай бұрын
Outstanding! Glad I got the RedGard!
@FM-dk1vpАй бұрын
Aqua Defense changed their color…not dark anymore…now dries to light pale green. It also has a thinner texture feels more plastic less like rubber.
@c2023r2 жыл бұрын
I only watch your videos waiting for April to come back. Just kidding! Thanks for the video and keep up the great work.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Yes I liked April too...thanks for watching regardless
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
April was a hottie 👍
@c2023r2 жыл бұрын
@@timthetoolman9659 And you know @StarrTile is holding out on us.
@zachodegard92395 ай бұрын
My mapei rep said with all these paint on membranes to follow manufacturer directions. 2 coats not 3 not 4… it prevents it from curing properly.
@williamp91582 жыл бұрын
Isaac used the cheesy flex seal waterproofing in one of his showers and it worked.....Why? He used a fabric. I think you should use a fabric with liquid membrane. It reinforces the membrane, makes it stronger and it doesn't create those pin holes. The epoxy grout formula channel shows the best way to use redgard as a pan waterproofer. REDGARD is all he uses but he does use a fabric in conjunction with REDGARD.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
I think the pin holes were in relation the the age and exposure to the Aquadefense, never had pin hole issues before and the other 3 had none. Does the mesh help ?? Maybe, but again, the other 3 were solid even at the seams without mesh & only 2 coats. I did a mock up using Flex Seal 3 years ago, Isaac copied me but used paintable rather than the spray can(s) I used. Mine failed to stick, I think because it was oil based in can, and what he used was water based in the pail.
@OGCJ10 Жыл бұрын
So instead of pvc liner use a fabric? ... So essentially it goes 1. Sloped dry pack mortar 2. Fabric liner 3. Topical membrane ?
@johnwhite25767 ай бұрын
What is the “Divit “system you mention at the end of?
@StarrTile7 ай бұрын
You can look it up on KZbin, basically the divot system has to do with making a funnel out of your mortar around the drain
@shawnb428710 ай бұрын
I think in my shower, I am going to use Hydroban on my mortar bed, then put thinset+fabric down on top of that. I want that thing to be waterproof forever and I don't trust myself to get the hydroban perfect. Maybe I should do the fabric first, then Hydroban on top of that? Shower pans are hard.
@rioriggs3568Ай бұрын
Great video!! My first time here!
@patrickmclaughlin60132 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob! Great work.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir !
@rexgross50732 жыл бұрын
Old school showers have always had waterproofing not liquid Or topical but they have always been waterproofed
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
how ? care to explain
@calvinhobbes61184 ай бұрын
@@timthetoolman9659 Rubber pan liner.
@Daniel-wd4jg3 ай бұрын
Use "TEC" triple flex. 2 part liquid powder mix for waterproof and crack isolation.
@bertoshovlog49232 жыл бұрын
Excellent job
@ManuelGonzalez-np6jw2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test👍🏼
@MtPockets14U Жыл бұрын
With the Redgard do they want you to thin it out with water for your 1st coat? Wonder if that helps with possible pin holes as the product dries and slightly shrinks back.. Also, Are you using box store bags for your mudpan or you blending yourself? Was interested in knowing what your preference on bagged floor mud was from box stores. TIA
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
There are some out there that will water down and use that as a first coat, I have never done that before and would it help? Possibly but I haven't had any issues without doing it. I buy mortar from home depot, Quickcrete sand topping mix.. If at Lowe's it Sacrete sand mix
@benjaminbilic76112 жыл бұрын
You're the man, keep making videos
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, I shall 👌
@jtoker975811 ай бұрын
There isn't any melting on the redgard. The solvent evaporates off, so it is solid then. Water is a solvent so it could have some impact on the surface area. I think that is the real question and it turning pink when wet has some reaction. How can you even deny that?
@matthewbegin34622 жыл бұрын
I would love to see someone build a shower old school style. No waterproofing but good grout and proper pan slope and see how much water really soaks through when seeing normal use. Not saying a shower should be built with out waterproofing, but just curious.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
The problem with "old school" style is that this work is advancing yearly, new materials & methods, so makes no sense going back. But we tear out those old school showers and they all have some kind of damage, hence the new methods.
@hughjass183511 ай бұрын
I just ripped out 2 old school showers, house was built in the 50s, not a drop off water ever hit a stud. The real problem is no one cares anymore and craftsmanship is dead. It's all about how fast you can produce something mediocre that your insurance company will insure.
@garybovee74746 ай бұрын
A suggestion for a more accurate reading for thickness: maybe try soaking the samples, then rub off the cardboard leaving only product and maybe a portion of the cardboard if permeated with the product. Thank you.
@sethmccain8486Ай бұрын
I just bought 3 gallons of aqua defense hope I didn’t make the wrong decision
@StarrTileАй бұрын
No you're good, as I mentioned in the video it had been sitting in my trailer exposed to extreme heat and extreme cold for 2 years
@mikek39512 жыл бұрын
Isaccs videos interesting to say the least. But very correct. I’ll follow the directions and if it fails it’s on them not me. That’s crap. It’s common sense you need. Every job isn’t the same. Hell there’s some houses that should not get tile. Personally many rush a job and causes issues. I can redo Isaacs video and make bubbles. It’s call not letting it dry correctly or way to thick. Anyway areas being clean ( anyone reading this. Use a brush and shop vac. You want the area to be very clean before you apply RG. Or other. Anyway. Good video I hope many learn from it. Most need to understand that if they hire someone and it’s done it 2 days they got ripped off. On avg it’s 5days. I just did a job and the customer that watches your videos. He wanted kerdi so he got it.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%...critical thinking is imperative in every trade, directions are guides only. And yes I've been told by many homeowners that they had a guy that talked about building a shower in 3-4 days !! What ??? It's 5 days just for prep. Good comment ✔
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile 100%
@mikek39512 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile Here’s 1 for ya. Customer watched you tube. Not your videos. Deck mud down in morning. 10 hrs later red guard on it. The guy is a Dr. Nice guy but likes to use his hands. Shocked he tried it himself. Bubbles in red guard with water test. He put 2 coats on. 1 hr apart. And went thick in corners. Lol I felt bad telling the Dr. 1st. Beautiful job so far 2- deck mud should be left alone technically for 24 hours. To fully be curried is 28 days. 3- red guard was put on wet deck mud. Then both coats to heavy. I’m still shocked. 17 years as a ortho surgeon and he was doing it himself. But I told him the bad news and he blasted you tube. I pointed him to your channel if he tries the next 1 himself. I’m gonna do this one. He asked me why I don’t do videos. I said I think you tube has policy’s that if cross. I’d start mine with. Hello all 95% of videos you see are shit. Directions are only a guide All jobs are different If you want to waste your Fu--Ing money go watch someone else. ( still shocked he was a Dr. Lol. Just takes my breath away )
@BlahBlahManYeah2 жыл бұрын
Same thing with old paint it degrades over years and if applied it will start to peel off or cracking. Also polymer infused liquids and even thinset degrade overtime as well if not used even with intact packaging. Sealed packaging may let them last for 2 years that is what is know as shelf life, but open package accelerates degradation of product, perhaps 6-12 months and it has to be disposed..
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Exactly...that's why I believe I had such strange results with the Aquadefense
@donaldadams47132 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison experiment. I saw Isaac’s red guard video and I certainly didn’t like the way he applied it. The manufacturer clearly doesn’t explain proper application on its directions or MSDS. Strangely Custom Building Products red guard video shows applying the product the way you just did it and certainly not super thick the way Isaac did.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point Isaac was trying to make in his video is not to apply it the way the directions say, but I also think he has a dislike for redgard since he has a definitive preference towards hydroban. But more importantly in regards to how I do things it always comes down to critical thinking rather than reading anybody's instructions
@thomassullivan12072 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile I don't think Isaac has a dislike for RedGard. If it worked when applied as the directions tell you, he'd have no problem. I can't imagine why their directions would be so bad or inaccurate? That would frustrate the hell out of me. Maybe he he does have a dislike for RedGard, but dislikes them because their directions suck. Not because he prefers Hydroban.
@LuisMendez-hy3vk2 жыл бұрын
Well illustration 👌 the real thing oh how to make used off a product.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@babyjanepad25962 жыл бұрын
I am concerned now about my aquadefense. I did three coats on pan…..praying it will be enough
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
I have had good luck with aqua defense, it just so happens in that video the extra I had was 4 to 5 years old and as I mentioned in the video probably Frozen a few times
@babyjanepad25962 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile thanks. I do remember in one of your critiques videos you pointed out that the person only used maybe 2 coats to cover and you could still see the white areas and grey areas on the walls. I was determined then to make sure I doubled down on the usage of it! At least 4 coats and everything is well covered. Had my husband go behind me to double check!
@nothertilerАй бұрын
Don't have audio. What's the order from best to worst?
@StarrTileАй бұрын
@nothertiler personally I like Ardex because it is a bit thicker and the fumes aren't as bad, however it is more expensive. So by default I get Redgard because it's easy to get from Home Depot, but overall they tested out exactly the same
@deeeeeeps6 ай бұрын
How did the aqua defense melt after you put water in it??
@BonBon7702 жыл бұрын
And what is exactly wrong with the traditional In-N-Out system with a 40 mil vinyl liner and a pre slope, and plastic weep hole protector, concrete board Hydra been over that.? I would love to hear this
@timthetoolman96592 жыл бұрын
And cars still work fine with carburetors, bag phones and pay phones work great, I hear that a lot of people still use an abacus and can do math just fine with it. So are you suggesting that building a shower like that and been done that way since the turn of the century should continue on the same course ??? 🤣
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
@BobBon No reason it WON'T work, and as I stated on the video, many will continue that method...but things change, new methods, new materials, I'm sure there was a predecessor prior to the method you describe....and in 50 years there will be new ways.
@BonBon7702 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile correct but why fix something if it's not broken all these liquid waterproofing, foam board, and all this stuff, that's come out in the last 10 or 15 years....... to me it was invented because people did not have the skills to do dry pack, and in combination of not knowing how a drain is supposed to be hooked up.....
@BonBon7702 жыл бұрын
@@timthetoolman9659 has the wheel been reinvented? Nope not really you want to know why because people know it works and if something works you don't change it
@BonBon7702 жыл бұрын
@@timthetoolman9659 you're probably one of these guys that doesn't know how to drypack properly, you just stick to your foam and Sheet membranes buddy🤣.....
@patrickmckowen29997 ай бұрын
👍TY for your efforts. Cheers
@tedandra2471 Жыл бұрын
Freezing would of made it gel. From the Rockys seen it happen many times.
@tazvegas11 ай бұрын
Hey brother I'm in Hawaii. What waterproofing would you recommend to seal my cement aquarium? I used 500 psi with waterproof additive cement mix
@StarrTile11 ай бұрын
I like the Ardex I show here, thicker & less fumes than redgard
@ronbarbieri7713 Жыл бұрын
This video could have started 10 minutes into it
@MAGAMAN4 ай бұрын
"All four of these product cause cancer in California. Fortunately I'm not in California..." LOL
@allegory7638 Жыл бұрын
Well I got a refrigerator box that's going to be my new shower.
@andrewshenton6541 Жыл бұрын
Boxs are also porous and have layers so probably sucked the moisture out
@omidn2876 Жыл бұрын
Is behold better than redguard?
@joek51111 ай бұрын
Nice job
@markprice1984 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that third coat emulsified!😆
@mlhscanada1069Ай бұрын
Can I put redguard over kerdi? I don't trust kerdi. Lol
@StarrTileАй бұрын
@mlhscanada1069 yes...definitely, I apply it to the overs laps.
@mlhscanada1069Ай бұрын
@StarrTile awesome, I was thinking of throwing it out. A famous youtuber was bad mouthing it. Thanks for doing the test
@StarrTileАй бұрын
@mlhscanada1069 Isaac has at least three or four videos where has screwed up a job, common sense screw up....so take whatever he says with a grain of salt. But to that point he doesn't use common sense so it's not the material that screwed up is the lack of caution to mitigate the weak spot, which is the overlap
@rick076 Жыл бұрын
Redgard or hydroban for easy too use and less likely to make a mistake… i would guess hydroban is less prone to mistakes based on videos on youtube but i would like your opinion on what would be easier/safer for a newbie… thanks
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
They are all about the same but after using Ardex I like it a lot better than Red Guard
@traylorkarttech4432 Жыл бұрын
So you typically don’t use a membrane barrier in the pan?
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
Yes I use a pan liner....as a back up...but you see it's literally not needed
@cdurkinz11 ай бұрын
I’m not understanding how you deal with the gap between your pan and the backer board on the walls that you leave. Do you fill that with silicone caulk and then redguard over everything?
@StarrTile11 ай бұрын
No it remains a void so it can air out and dry just in case water goes back up into it, do not fill the void with anything
@cdurkinz11 ай бұрын
@@StarrTile oh ok thank you, I appreciate it.
@Oxnard-cd4qy2 жыл бұрын
Why did you disabled your comments on the pre slope shower pan linear video from 7 years ago? Because you know someone was going to tell you you’re wrong
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Actually I'm correct, but there are a lot of book soldiers out there that will believe anything is written rather than what they are told. And I've already done a mock-up of a pre slope going back three years ago where the water came out of my mock-up without any slope so there is the proof positive that I am correct... But before you force me to pat myself on the back, I will say that the pre slope and weep holes and all that garbage doesn't matter anymore because everybody has turned to a sealed system, whether it be the divot method or the bonding flange or the way I do it... no water enters your moar thereby making that video irrelevant 👌✌💪😉
@carlhenderson72542 жыл бұрын
I waterproofed a box with Aqua defense and it lasted days????
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
As I said in the video the aqua defense was at least 4 to 5 years old and have been through at least 4-5 freeze Winters... in addition to extremely hot summers
@indayprincess90812 жыл бұрын
Bravo nice work
@ll1881ll Жыл бұрын
Please edit for length
@eulldog Жыл бұрын
Have to redo the test with fresh product, 3 years old seems beyond normal shelf life
@jakenelson8286 Жыл бұрын
Still using Redgard for all your work?
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
Yup
@1bottlefed Жыл бұрын
Big fan of watching Isaacs videos to pick up on techniques on how to work with surface waterproofing membranes, learned a lot about how to apply the the banding etc. in a manner that ensures a thin layer of thinset to the joint. That said I also found his surface water-proofer tests to be flawed in many ways. As mentioned applying to wet deck mud (while tempting in production work) is a sure path to failure and with any brush roll on material that relies on air to dry its essential that the layers be thin and allowed to dry before another layer is applied. This is different than cement based product where water causes a reaction or epoxy where a chemical reaction takes place. Also as to how the expired product worked sealing the pin holes, think of any radiator sealer....they are carried by flow to the leak where (as long as its small) they are are able to seal it even under heat and pressure. Of course that does not mean that you should use an expired material as putting any other problems aside with surface water proofers, unlike a radiator sealer, a surface water proofer has to provide a surface for the thinset to bond to. Lastly you being the older person ( I am 67 myself) you need to take the high ground, full time with Sal and Isaac..... as you have here. As you will IMO do much better with serious watchers by being understanding in your reaction to insults than if you try to outperform them insult wise. Thanks for the vid and hang in there.
@mike-pm6xn Жыл бұрын
What about Ames BlueMax? Anyone know about it?
@harrisclarkson65842 жыл бұрын
"fortunately I'm not in California, so it won't cause cancer" lol
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Well....EVERYTHING seems to cause cancer in Cali
@ArmChairKoalaBare Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS HAD GOOD LUCK WITH HYDRO BAN . GO WITH WHAT YA KNOW LOL.
@rechie9732 жыл бұрын
Wow so nice
@brightpathvideo Жыл бұрын
You didn't use fabric on the corners.
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
Oh no, it'll fail, the sky is falling !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrTooTechnical2 жыл бұрын
Fucking awesome. Love your hammer!!!
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
You mean the HD special that everyone has ? LOL !
@jhonaker762 жыл бұрын
I didn’t watch Isaac’s video, but when you said that he used glass, I knew right away his experiment was flawed. At the very least, he would have to put super thin layers and maybe use a hairdryer or something to adhere to the glass. And I can’t understand how the glass would add any value to the experiment anyway. Maybe if he used dye in the water, he could see it seep through the material or the cracks he always seems to get when he does his experiments. Anyway, thanks for setting up an experiment. I really don’t understand why Isaac is so down on Red Guard. It’s relatively cheap and it’s effective (and you don’t need special training to use it).
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
He had made the comment that he use glass so that he could see the sides of it and know what's going on internally. But I agree no advantage, which is why I use cardboard because it was pretty obvious when I had a leak. And I don't know why his pushback on redgard.. except that it's sold at Home Depot primarily. But as you mentioned, every experiment he does with it he applied it way too think which begets the cracking. He also claims it's too thin and hydroban is thicker. As a I mentioned in the video, operator malfunction is real.
@netwt4499 ай бұрын
Anybody have experience with SEMCO?
@chriscolameco68503 ай бұрын
Cardboard is not an approved substrate. If you build a bathroom out of cardboard it will fail
@StarrTile3 ай бұрын
Perhaps....maybe not based on my experiment. Point is the waterproofers did their job 👌🏼👍🏻
@sykethin17932 жыл бұрын
Nice
@JrJagsFootball2 жыл бұрын
"Use common sense". Yes Bob Doyle but sadly, common sense just isn't that common anymore.
@cherryescaro38122 жыл бұрын
nice
@kristinwilliams97797 ай бұрын
It melted
@nbond1980s2 жыл бұрын
You kinda contradicted yourself there saying that a liquid waterproofing agent could not go back to being liquid after drying. I can tell you for certain that freezing will in fact cause efficacy problems with almost any wet product.
@honeytubs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was funny. Can't turn back to liquid and sure enough it did. It is possible the liquefied product plugged the leak. I wouldn't be surprised if there is expansive clay such as bentonite in these products. Bentonite becomes a waterproof gel when it hydrates. Common sense is clay can turn into muddy water, dry out, then become muddy again. Similarity sugar can be dissolved then dry out over and over.
@toddrichardson341510 ай бұрын
Yup he is not to bright. His experiment is as flawed as anything. Does not even realize that the cardboard is why he got all the cracks.
@StarrTile10 ай бұрын
Behold @15:15 freezing no issues, years before this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5DCn6etq7eLa7csi=HuEl4_s5KhyQM2aO
@StarrTile10 ай бұрын
@toddrichardson3415 ..duh, you do know I dummy down stuff on KZbin over 13 years here for the idiots out there, apparently you fall into that crowd 🤣
@toddrichardson34159 ай бұрын
Wow. Crystal clear. You can criticize another person but if you say and do something not to bright, well then that person must be dumb. Oh and you just called your audience dumb. Nicely done! I bow to your superior intelligence.
@suspicionofdeceit2 жыл бұрын
Corners really needed tape.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Yes only because it was flexible cardboard, but the waterproofers were still awesome in those corners without the tape.
@suspicionofdeceit Жыл бұрын
What do you think of using elastomeric caulk in the corners of a shower pan as a bond breaker, the Hydroban Australian channel recommends that?
@drewsday62217 ай бұрын
As I always said , if you know what you are doing and you are a good mechanic you dont need any of these stupid new product. I feel all these new product allow contractor to do bad installations and relay on the water proofing to cover their ass.
@ohokayofficial7 ай бұрын
But what about those key areas ~ the shower curb/step, the bottom row of tile on the wall (of some houses) Can redgard or aqua defense do anything if you do it as stripes on important seams?
@johnstonjoseph816 ай бұрын
Red guard is crap! when water makes it through the grout and tile it’ll return the red guard back to pink!
@StarrTile6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jeremi72142 жыл бұрын
I prefer hydroban
@rickiea4847 Жыл бұрын
Putting on wallpaper is so ignorant to say it's a waterproof membrane it's like saying or you are putting paint on you're shower walls to waterproof how dumb is that either method works they are both waterproof
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
I stand by my word, there's never a problem on walls, but if I'm going to do the walls I'm not going to apply wallpaper... it's a lot of work for *NO* return AND costly, much easier and faster to use a liquid topical membrane. But hey you do you 🫡
@ericastier16464 ай бұрын
damn vinyl planks are so ugly, it's one of those trend of a few year that a decade later everybody recognize it's horrible looking, people are so easily swayed with the crow. vinyl planks or tile is plastic and plastic is crap for wear and aging over time always was and still is.
@travisk55892 жыл бұрын
Melting? Water is a strong solvent to many things. Solvents don't melt things. Your explanation might be worse than Isaac's
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
Cannot turn a solid back to a liquid by using a liquid to do it, and more specifically in this case. I suggest you look up the definition of re emulsify
@travisk55892 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile yes you can turn many solids to liquids by using liquid. Looks like it's Time for a high school chemistry class for you. Now emulsify might be the wrong word. But like I said, your explanation might be worse than Isaac's. Btw what are you doing up so late?
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
@@travisk5589 yes there are solids that can turn to a liquid with water...but as I said, specifically NOT in this case. The term he used re emulsify had his viewers believe that waterproofers can become a liquid after drying, totally bogus and ill informed. It's bad "coaching" at the very least, and at worst it's slamming redgard in lieu of HIS favorite. His failure was operator malfunction. I was slinging tile all day until 7pm and getting home late means going to bed late ✔
@travisk55892 жыл бұрын
@@StarrTile gotcha. But you got hung up on Isaac's incorrect use of the word or process, which didn't need to be done. Everyone knew what issac was getting at. So I did it back to you.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
@@travisk5589 words matter to others, I wasn't caught up on the term but ppl watching might...he gives the impression that redgard can or will turn back to liquid so clarification was needed. Many that watch him think he knows what he speaks.
@1dariansdad Жыл бұрын
This shows and proves nothing. Your entire experiment is doomed from the beginning as you did not use ANY waterproofing fabrics or membranes around the box. Your deck mud cracked because the boxes sucked all the moisture from the deck mud before it cured properly. Then you didn't fix that and instead just slathered product all over the place. THEN you used 3-year-old product and had to make excuses for the failure. Also, why are you responding to Isaac? Did he call you out regarding one of your failed jobs or what?
@StarrTile Жыл бұрын
Obviously you are a troll, so definitely not worth my time responding, but I will say this, I've never failed a shower and yet Isaac has at least six failure videos, go put that in your pipe and smoke it 🖕🏻
@qoolcat73832 жыл бұрын
I'm a believer in the topical membrane, but now you have me worried since I just completed my shower with Aqua Defense. 😟 So the lesson learned with yours and Isaac's videos are to wait for the mortar bed to complety dry before applying the topical membrane. Being that Isaac waited 24 hours for a small area and it still wasn't dry, wouldn't there be a lot of down time waiting at least 72 hours before applying the topical membrane? Plus another 24 for a water test after? Fine for a DIY, but doesn't seem very efficient for a professional.
@StarrTile2 жыл бұрын
My pan is poured day 1 of a job with a fan on it every evening I leave, next day I'm doing wallboard and, or the outside floor........day 3 I'm sanding off & tapering off mud on walls or other things, then end of day 3 I waterproof. Doing it that way a LONG time.