Mike and Rich's Top 5 Star Trek TNG Episodes! - re:View (part 1)

[@Sayquidnidly]

This was Mike's grand scheme from the jump. He decided one day that he would sacrifice 10 years of his life discussing movies and shows that he isn't really interested in only to one day, a decade later, be able to talk about star trek:TNG to his hearts content. Mission accomplished Mike, mission accomplished.

[@adamfrisk956]

Palpatine's behind it all!

[@danmcman1]

And I'll gladly watch any of it

[@RobertJRoman]

@@StGroovy And Rainbows Remedy...

[@kevindelgado1459]

@@StGroovy its Suburban Sasqatch you infidel

[@Bloodynine606]

It’s stylistically designed to be that way

[@none3209]

I love how Rich Evans is still humble enough to introduce himself as if we don't know his name. And I love how the other guy keeps it together and isn't too starstruck.

[@o.oo.o5637]

ikr when he said i am rich evans it sounded so humble, but the bold declaration really came through as well

[@vultan2000]

He looks the spitting image of Dick the Birthday Boy.

[@mikemckinney3847]

The Internet's Rich Evans

[@mattstrathis4328]

I always assumed the other guy was the more well known one. What's Rich Evans story?

[@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski]

Ricardo Ebanez is the hottest Latin star of the century

[@Resopheed]

This is the final form of RLM. This was always Mike's ultimate plan.

[@prosthoplus]

I'm okay with this.

[@Resopheed]

Indeed. It's great to hear them talk about the Star Trek they actually like.

[@danielyoung6778]

His decade and a half plan to just unironically make a podcast where middle aged men discuss nerd shit shrouded by the guise of years of sarcasm.

[@thomasmartin4281]

A dyad in the KZbin show. But he can’t get up without a tower

[@takethesky8478]

Mike is the key to all of this.

[@THEKILLERWHALE]

"They're going to dig her up for Star Trek Picard Season Two and she's going to run around with a machine gun." Oof. Mike cursed with the gift of clairvoyance.

[@QBG]

I would eagerly watch Mike and Rich Evans talk about every single episode of every single Trek series.

[@redpillow7221]

QBG, I think that idea is brilliant

[@LSOP-]

Yuuuuuuus pls.

[@MatthewMk27]

Me too.

[@donphelpsiii]

In podcast form!! YEEESSSSSS

[@Jhonka8807]

You should try mclasspodcast. Similarly entertaining.

[@benlittle5436]

Mike and Rich... enjoying Star Trek? Jesus this will give them both back 5 years of life

[@Khazuki_]

If they keep doing this they'll achieve immortality

[@MrHendrix17]

@@Khazuki_ and in turn Jay can forever steal their lifeblood to fuel his own youthful looks.

[@notyou8716]

@@MrHendrix17 Jays long hair and beard are concealing his buck teeth and unsightly face. Those aren't "youthful looks".

[@zetetick395]

The companion piece can only be a two hour David Lynch filmography appreciation session, featuring Jay and Josh...

[@feature.of.jarjar24]

@@notyou8716 sure they're concealed now, but our modern day Adonis will show himself soon enough. Don't doubt our indie film geek's beauty.

[@Adammonroemusic]

The thirteen-years-long grand opus known as Red Letter Media is finally reaching its logical conclusion: Old Trek reviews by Rich and Mike. It's. So. Beautiful. 😢

[@darrengordon-hill]

To boldly go where the bulk of their subs don't want them to

[@catriona_drummond]

@@snarkylive I like the double meaning of "executed".

[@AdamScottPersonnel]

Poor Jay.

[@FARFolomew]

@@snarkylive Yeah, like Plinket's "dumb" idea to suggest JJ Abrams direct the new Star Wars! :-)

[@nunofyerbusiness198]

It's poetry, like holding down Will Wheaton and having dogs poop on his face.

[@Phex1]

"The will dig up guinean for picard season 2 and she will run around with a machine gun" We laughed in 2020.

[@unintentionallydramatic]

I love RLM but they need to stop saying things. Their predictions keep being proven right in the worst ways.

[@andrefiremaster]

@@unintentionallydramatic they were cursed with Apollo's gift of prophecy

[@unintentionallydramatic]

@@andrefiremaster I could see it.

[@tumbles8350]

The chairs and table they use are made of monkeys paw

[@DangerB0ne]

​@@tumbles8350 so is Rich's folding chable

[@Keira_Blackstone]

Call me sentimental, but it's actually really nice to see them talk about something that makes them happy instead of miserable.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Mike being miserable, gives me hope that there is justice in this universe.

[@princeprocrastinate6485]

Agreed, need to heal the pain inflicted by the new garbage that passes for Star Trek these days.

[@Uncompromising_Mode]

Its nice to see that Mike and Rich can be friends without Mike abusing Rich.

[@avip8539]

Amen.

[@RoshDroz]

Re:view is the show for you then

[@Teremei]

Mike, his eyes glistening Jay, his eyes rolling Rich, with ears open

[@iaintuploadinnothing]

Plinkett, when the insulin levels fell.

[@FutureDeep]

Jay and Mike at Plinkett's house.

[@Orangefan77]

Plinkett, when the VCR failed.

[@VerizonEclipse]

Jay Bauman, when the wheel of the worst was spun.

[@narnbrez]

@@VerizonEclipse Rich Evans, when the wheel of the worst fell

[@maxrockatansky2976]

I can’t get enough of Mike and Rich talking about Star Trek. Just listening to them talking is better than all of CBS Star Trek combined.

[@ethinethin]

Jay must be in hell

[@dearquark]

I always considered Best of Both Worlds as a three-parter. "Family" was such a great and underrated follow up.

[@SomeGuyHowGoesIt]

It's a very nice character episode that shows the relaxed and sentimental side of picard you don't really ever see.

[@sleepydessert974]

This! I think that's also why I don't mind the ending shot of Best of Both Worlds part 2, it flows so smoothly with Family. (Though I do see Mike's point in the video as well)

[@Noplayster13]

Maybe it was explained in some other media, but I never understood why the Enterprise didn’t use the teleporter to beam massive explosives onto the Borg ship. If people and their equipment can beam through Borg shields, why not nukes and neutron bombs?

[@Viceroy_Sundercles_III]

TNG does denouement TERRIBLY. It usually lasts about 60 seconds. Best of Both Worlds is equally guilty, especially after such a powerful plot point. “Family” was a much needed follow up and is very much deserving of a Part 3 moniker.

[@makasete30]

@@Noplayster13 because the Borg don’t see a few humans as a threat until fired upon(all they have are phasers). I presume if they beamed in with a ton of explosives they would be seen as a threat, and the bombs with be blocked during transport, or beamed out. They also adapt, so even if one species tried and successfully did it once, they wouldn’t allow it again.

[@oldsoul8429]

“I’m not watching Star Trek anymore.” - Rich Evans, 2020 Been a rough year for all of us, Rich Evans.

[@williamskay109]

dan henry it’s been slowly happening for at least 20 or 30 years, progressively getting worse along the way.

[@Shinkajo]

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[@amelzon1]

Shinkajo I totally agree.

[@TWRehab]

This is the Infinity War of RLM. All storylines have led to this moment.

[@laynno13]

So true 😂😂😂

[@laynno13]

@@infinitelybanta wait so it's all one big loop... he suggested in his Phantom Menace review that JJ direct Star Wars films. He praised Star Trek 2009, then JJ directed part 7 and 9. @redlettermedia what's good???

[@jamesboulger8705]

Hahaha

[@jamesboulger8705]

@@infinitelybanta the star wars reviews are so hilarious though so it gave birth to something good

[@StrangeQuarkStar]

And it literally took 12 years to make!

[@garymyers7696]

I can’t describe how good it felt to just watch someone talk about good Star Trek.

[@ivarl915]

same, dude. same.

[@ninboy01]

Q’s character arc on TNG makes sense. He was testing humanity to see if they were a worthy species. Once they prove themselves as being capable, he starts to steer them in a more benevolent way, and eventually develops an affection for them. Particularly his obsession with Picard.

[@rhettorical]

Would that then imply that the hacks who wrote Picard extended that logic to culminate in "Q is dead and feels fine about leaving the universe in Picard's hands"?

[@TheTerminalRaptor]

Rich: "Best of Both World's isn't even in my top 10" You can actually see the disdain on Mike's face when he says that.

[@hornet331]

ahaha my same exact impression

[@reflectingh9997]

Its a frustrating time for mike to be a star trek fan

[@rhemorigher]

I'm with Rich, important to the overall series sure, but it isn't as much fun to watch on its own as other episodes. It is more 'important' than 'great'.

[@joeyjojojunior1794]

2:31 You can hear his heart of stone crack a little bit there..."ok ok OK ok."

[@Dac85]

I'm kind of with Rich there. But it's hard to be objective since I've watched BoBW like ten times.

[@Bassman1985]

Mike had his own “Deja Q” moment when he broke down laughing during Christmas Or Cats. Just an unexplainable descent into mindless laughter.

[@ChocorocK]

Its a senior moment.

[@xtzyshuadog]

What could we classify Mike as when he confused Yoda with a garden gnome?

[@DarchiFilms0]

1 hour TNG discussion. Jay: Looks blankly into camera

[@namelessgoon146]

que the slide-whistle

[@KaptinScuzgob]

(Part 1)

[@cj8nes]

When will RLM do a 2 hour long video of Jay talking to an empty chair about Italian monster pornos from the 50s??

[@stephenramos2824]

Damit man you ruined the episode for me now!

[@martink.461]

Jay just nodding off like Picard in the last clip.

[@staceyann1180]

I'm late to this (shame on me!) but as a counselor, I loved the little discussion of Troi vs Guinan as counselors!Mike and Rich's observations, as well as the show, were pretty spot on. Troi, imo, behaves more like a new counselor would. She has her theory and procedures down (sounding like she's reading from a text or protocols) and she's also just a little too soft, gentle or emotionally invested. Guinan, on the other hand, is like one of those amazing older,experienced counselors. Well-trained but relying on their intuition and experience. Their counsel is based on the foundations of theory but they never sound like they're reading from a book because they've actually incorporated the philosophy into their work. They aren't afraid to push a little harder, be a bit more confrontational (in a good way!) and can cut through the bs much faster. Which, given the characters, makes a lot of sense, it's incredibly apt. Sorry for rambling, I doubt that observation is as interesting to anyone else as it was to me but ah well!

[@willnashi7202]

You're not alone, at a glance I don't see anyone else in the comments mention it but thought it was very interesting and the deeper character knowledge Rich and Mike possess only helped the observation, and yours was nice to read too. Thanks.

[@FarewellChorus]

"I doubt that observation is as interesting to anyone else as it was to me but ah well!" You're discussing the technical details of the occupation of two of the main characters, on a video about TNG. I think you will find an audience here.

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Troi is the city psychologist with a framed picture of Freud and diplomas on the wall. Guinan is the 100-year-old kung-fu master living alone in a wooden cabin at the top of the mountain.

[@Mandibularmenace]

⁠​⁠@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Troi is the psychologist that antinatalists cite to discredit therapy and Guinan is the reason people choose to stick with it

[@Xtrodinary20]

Great observation and much appreciated!!

[@alpha__whiskey__2856]

Mike: "I picked them based on the ones I like to rewatch" Also Mike: "It's not a fun rewatch"

[@BassPlayer60134]

I don’t think that was one of his picks.

[@MrVlonk]

That brain-melting "I aM RiCh EvAns." Camera cut at the beginning

[@bryal7811]

0:09 I have no idea how I missed that the first time! Rich Evans has that effect on people I guess.

[@ThePadawan3]

Rich Evans must have that Liam Neeson clause in his contract. That head swivel is such an exertion on his body that there must be 9 cuts in 2 seconds.

[@Cressx]

I think the editor was trying to capture his face looking at the camera but Rich kept changing which camera he was looking at so...this was the end result lol

[@ShoRyuBarbie]

He screwed up the pronunciation so badly, they had to cut together 9 different takes.

[@davfree9732]

This isn’t a top five... this is therapy after watching all that STD and STP episodes.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

Anyone trying to recover from _Star Trash Disaster, Star 'Tard: Picard_ and _Star Wreck: Lower Dreck_ can find the remedy in "Seth Trek" _The Orville_ -- the spiritual successor to ST:TNG. (Edit: Added ST:LD)

[@Bloodynine606]

I challenge you not to name your top 5 discovery and Picard episodes, but to just name 5 period.

[@FMSnow]

they had Stone Temple Pilots episodes???

[@slumshoes]

In the water industry, STP means sewage treatment plant.

[@Bloodynine606]

Hugh tube you mean they were all Dogshit

[@JoeMama410]

I think Riker constantly asking questions paved the way for Jonathan Frakes to get the gig on Beyond Belief.

[@xtzyshuadog]

The compilation videos of him asking questions for several minutes from this show is hilarious

[@MattDemers]

Oh baby, let's get this going. It's nice to know they finally caved to "JUST PUT MIKE AND RICH IN A ROOM AND MAKE THEM TALK ABOUT STAR TREK THEY LIKE."

[@SushiBandit28]

This is Mike's way of buttering up Rich for Discovery S3

[@eliasb8]

Delete your comment! You will spoil it! :)

[@dodojesus4529]

No amount of lube is enough for that

[@jorgamund07]

He told Rich there would be 3 parts. But when they're done with part 2, he's going to signal Jay lock the doors and force Rich to watch Discovery again.

[@Tiamat013]

He's trying to pavlov him

[@xtzyshuadog]

Don't worry, Picard Season 3 will see them through just fine.

[@hl2kill]

>Top 5 episodes >Hour Long >only part 1 This is the best

[@lagg1e]

Can't wait for Top 6-10 afterwards.

[@mazenkorlm6278]

0:03:02 The Best of Both Worlds (Parts 1 and 2) 0:20:59 Mike and Rich talk about common trends in Star Trek TNG 0:25:08 The Measure of a Man 0:30:16 The Drumhead 0:40:46 Deja Q 0:47:45 Tapestry

[@witekstrzeleckich7657]

You are the hero we need. Did you also do something similar for other episodes?

[@mazenkorlm6278]

@@witekstrzeleckich7657 I did.

[@bluetoon1499]

Doing God's work, thanks

[@Adino1]

You are the man, man.

[@junglemoose2164]

They listed "The Drumhead?" Oh my. That is easily one of TNG's worst episodes. "The Measure of a Man" ain't much better. These guys don't deserve the time of day. They're picking episodes pseudo-intellectuals would pick as to appear smart.

[@Xenopolateccl]

Mike: "This episode of Star Trek reminds me of another episode of earlier Star Trek". It has come full circle. Thank you guys for that, it is fantastic

[@akoot]

I was thinking this exact thing, so much of this episode was going on tangents talking about episodes not even on the list, and I loved it.

[@EnigmaticPenguin]

One hour and two minutes of Jay rolling his eyes to camera. Excellent.

[@XalphYT]

I hope Jay bought eyedrops.

[@venusiansociety9483]

and it's just part 1

[@Mck6]

Mike is so well groomed, has a Kirk shirt, no in-jokes at the start... Is this made for the specific purpose of showing it to William Shatner?

[@narnbrez]

Even finds a way to bring the Gorn up in the video

[@ihigvererdsds593]

Shatner would watch one minute of it and decide he hates it and they're harassing him.

[@at0micl0bster]

ihig vererdsds it’s also not tos so why would he care

[@lowercase21]

Don't know why Shatner is a douche.

[@julian0451]

@@lowercase21 cuz hes like 80

[@user_2148]

I legitimately fall asleep to this every night because nothing makes me fall asleep faster than two old men passionately talking about something they love that I have never seen. Thanks RLM!!!

[@jamestalbot9190]

Me too 😅

[@TheRapierTheBetter]

@@jamestalbot9190 night troops

[@meganega123]

No shit! I actually really want to listen to these guys but I always fall asleep

[@WokeBegone]

Rather like another of your commenters, I actually want to listen to it but at night in bed when the phone is charging - and hang my sleep. By some strange law of the universe, though, I do fall asleep nearly every single time. By now of course I'm exploiting this to actually fall asleep at night, like yourself, but I still at heart really want to see it all.

[@2MannzumHochbeamen]

Old? They were kids when TNG was aired... They are younger than me, and I'm definitely not old! 😤

[@spethmanjones2997]

Mike saying, "I'm so glad coronavirus happened," in response to how awful Star Trek Picard was is probably the most Mike thing to ever happen

[@mkocinema2012]

ST:Picard has just begun

[@spethmanjones2997]

@@mkocinema2012 was, is, whatever! It's like saying a dog with diarrhea has only _just begun_ voiding its bowels. The first squirts are still awful lol

[@draykeblack]

@@mkocinema2012 How? He's dead. It should be Star Trek: Android at this point.

[@Redmanticore]

i see the future: even Patrick Stewart quits from his own show because of the abysmal ratings, so they hire a female picard to replace him

[@Dorian-_-Gray]

@@draykeblack Oh

[@diopap1529]

I want a Jay camera during the whole episode.

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

I want an Onlyfans camera of Jay during every episode they talk about only about Trek.

[@matthewhearn9910]

It’s just that last shot of Picard they talked about in this part.

[@FakeUserNameHere]

1:01:38

[@lordnicenstein5105]

Jay commentary Trek!

[@zerovalon6243]

He's to busy with his attempted wheelchair accident

[@trptguy23]

Funny story about The Best of Both Worlds: Dad was a military man and went to war between the two episodes (The Gulf). He was not scared about leaving the family, or dying in the war, he was pissed because he was gonna miss the second episode.

[@billbrasky527]

Damn, that's some real shit. Those season ending cliffhangers were a real biotch.

[@trptguy23]

@@ItsBunnyBuns of course; he probably would have disowned us if not

[@Redmanticore]

dying in a war hasnt been that common percentage wise thing to happen for usa side for quite some time.

[@jpetras16]

@@Redmanticore Thankfully that's about to change with China

[@Calzaki]

13:50 The reason you had that "Is Riker going to kill Locutus and stay captain" cliff-hanger is specifically BECAUSE Patrick Stewart had ended his three year contract and hadn't renegotiated something new by the time they filmed the episode they had no idea if he was coming back. He'd started with a three year contract and obviously the first two years of that were not the best. In fact he's since said that when he signed on his agent promised him it would be a short job and get cancelled by season three just like the original series. It was the changing of the showrunners and writers and the vast improvements of season 3 (plus a pay rise) that finally talked him into coming back for another 4 years. The result was that when they shot that scene in Best of Both Worlds part 1 they had NOT written a script or even an outline for part 2 and had no idea whether to plan for Picard to be in it, even as a guest star. There was every chance from season 4 onwards Picard would be dead, Riker would be Captain and Shelby would have been inserted as a series regular in Jonathon Frakes former position as he became the new lead for the franchise. It's also why Best of Both Worlds Part 1 was the Riker episode setting him up as possible replacement. Best of Both Worlds part 2 was the "lets pull together to save Earth AND Picard" episode and ending on restoring the status quo.

[@DawidKov]

Makes me wonder how the show could've looked if Stewart decided to go. I quite liked Shelby's character, and the shakeup of the command structure would've been quite interesting to see.

[@josebrown5961]

Yes Frakes does not have the “charm” of Stewart. If they had gone without Stewart the show would have been different. I dare to say it could have been better. At least when they went to movies the character wouldn’t have changed like Stewart’s did. TV Picard was less “hands on” than movie Picard. When they did movies Stewart had to do more action. Captain Riker would have been more fun to watch. But actually I like how it all worked out. Riker was never going to get the big chair on Enterprise.

[@xtzyshuadog]

I've also seen from this comment section that the head writer was also debating whether he'd stay after Season 3, and that influenced all the cornered positions the characters ended up in by the end of Part 1.

[@Koko-pl8nv]

Even all the way over here in Florida, I can feel Jay's life essence rapidly draining away.

[@TheJohnnyonthespot1]

From what I'm seeing in the news, it looks like everyone's life essence is draining away in Florida as well...

[@Ari--d]

is this gex?

[@Koko-pl8nv]

@@Ari--d Yup!

[@phillrockman]

"Best of Both Worlds" is a 3 parter. It's not complete without Picard rolling in the mud with his brother.

[@MrSnaztastic]

Off to bed, without any supper.

[@zerovalon6243]

Your right it's the final turning point for Picard.

[@ZirconiumandKnox]

@@notinspectorgadget don't put these images in my mind

[@silverschannel8578]

4 parter, also wont be complete without knowing that everyone in "Family" died horribly in a fire making that amazing episode completely fucking pointless

[@BeggarsNight]

SilveR's Channel you mean 3-parter and a movie?

[@MurderousEagle]

TNG is a big "better times" kind of bitter-sweet. My dad used to turn on the hi-fi hooked up to the TV to watch TNG reruns. Better days.

[@billbrasky527]

It used to come on at 9pm where I lived. Bedtime extended to 10pm, just for TNG new episode nights!

[@jakeklutts864]

Same. My dad used to eat supper watching tng

[@Khono]

3 years later and it's still a pleasure to watch you two geek out about something from your childhood you genuinely still love.

[@arasonyth3243]

Captain Kirk hates Mike. Mike: "Why TNG is the better Star Trek."

[@elimgarak4667]

Everyone hates Mike Matei.

[@kylekolek8335]

It is though. TOS is really hard to get through and if it weren’t for the good movies, the first crew wouldn’t be as beloved

[@mphylo2296]

@@kylekolek8335 Yeah no that's bullshit. Season 1 and 2 still hold up. Even the weaker episodes have more value than the shit in Star Trek TNG season 1. The narrative that TOS isn't a great 60s sci fi show is ridiculous.

[@newerest1]

@Allan Ros if you are saying you need to be intoxicated to enjoy tos you are basically admitting it's crap

[@camerondavis1971]

@@mphylo2296 wrong. And you should feel bad

[@ToonamiT0M]

As much as I like watching Mike and Rich Evans rip into bad Star Trek, I'm loving watching them gush on good Star Trek. Please do this more often.

[@JAGUART]

It's nice to see Mike and Rich experiencing joy again.

[@OrochiShaka]

All this time, I thought Mike was saying Picard became "the cutest" but in fact he was saying "Locutus". Yeah, my English is not perfect.

[@benbooth2783]

Locutus come from the word locution. "a word or phrase, especially with regard to style or idiom."

[@pdlagasse]

PICARD: “I am the cutest of Borg.” RIKER: “Aw, are you the cutest? Yes you are!”

[@thedumbdog1964]

He’s not wrong

[@ExtraVictory]

Why do borg have names if they are a hivemind lmfao. Is that just a plot hole everyone ignores or?

[@Turbovolver]

​@@ExtraVictoryThey usually just have a number designation for a name, to play into the lack of individuality a bit.

[@ademisc]

TNG's success is primarily about the atmosphere. As stated previously by Mike, It is a world you would like to live in. Gene's vision of the future was so deeply optimistic; it shows and that helps us to feel positive about the future. Feels good man.

[@welfaiewfb8802]

play domjot humon?

[@ThePaulalv]

I swear to god this hour felt like two minutes. It's inspiring listening to you talking so passionately about real Star Trek. I loved your take on "Best of both worlds" about Riker and ambition. This video made me appreciate even more the originality and quality of TNG. Also loved your choices, I love the Drumhead and Deja Q too. Keep it going guys, you represent the true spirit of Star Trek that has lately been so disrespected. Waiting forward to part two :)

[@mroctober3657]

Are you suggesting a disruption in the space time continuum?

[@ThePaulalv]

@@mroctober3657 haha It wouldn't be the first time

[@ShockinglyLiterate]

I agree completely. On top of that, it just makes me feel sad. I had never seen TNG or DS9, and I watched both all the way through over the last two years. To know we'll probably never get something like that ever again - science fiction that is so very human, well-thought out, and aspirational -, and to be reminded of it through this wonderful and thoughtful analysis, can't help but make me sad.

[@ThePaulalv]

@@ShockinglyLiterate So true. It seems that drama and action have taken the place of intelligence and reflection. Nowadays audiences are treated as stupid children and I have got used to it but in Star Trek it's really insulting. Star Trek TNG was a show made by smart people for smart people (or at least for people who didn't like Star Wars so much) Now we have STD and STP, shows made by greedy and ignorant people that make the ferengi appear like f**ing Einsteins in comparison.

[@divine1448]

Picard goes back in time and gets OK BOOMER'd by his friends. Truly a show ahead of its time

[@TheBookgeek7]

Grrrr

[@Dorian-_-Gray]

Or: you don't know how to express yourself except through Internet memes

[@divine1448]

@@Dorian-_-Gray ok boomer

[@FELCommentary]

You just summed up the plot of Picard as well. It's just women yelling at Picard for 10 episodes.

[@iannordin5250]

the reason Worf was so ready to side with the judge in that one episode is that she took advantage of his insecurities over his klingon heritage and implied that he wouldn't be taken seriously as a true Starfleet officer unless she had his complete compliance. Worf was put into the unenviable position of proving his loyalty to Starfleet over one of his people.

[@makasete30]

Maybe partly, but the main reason is it also plays to his character. Worf does always think there are enemies that must be found and attacked, and the right response to a problem is with force. She gave him a tempting target to fight - a conspiracy on his ship, and initially he says “if” one exists he will find it. In his mind there is nothing wrong with investigating and finding out if there is a problem - he’s security after all. He then eagerly follows the judge down a path of over zealous investigation like a member of the gestapo, and admits he was duped at the end of the episode and he was shocked he willingly helped the judge. We see his instinct to react without thinking and with force ad nauseum in TNG. He has much better growth on DS9, but even there, that character trait exists: there was that episode where he grumbles about going to Rise with Dax, and ends up being convinced to sabotage the planetary environmental controls with a weird terroroist organisation that believes the federation is decadent for having too much fun and pleasure. Again, he was easily duped, but more than happy to go along with it.

[@shaggycan]

16:00 Troi is a very realistic character if you think about it. She joined Star Fleet to get away from her mother and to be with her boyfriend. She was like hey I'll be a councilor because I'm empathic (like taking a french class when you are from France in an English speaking country). Her boyfriend dumps her so really she doesn't give that much of a crap, she can coast through it and hold down the job while she puts herself back together. And that's Troi's arc, she ends up learning how to be Troi without a guy (becomes bridge officer, has other relationships, confronts her mom) and then in the end gets back together with her Man and has a family. She's happy, we're happy.

[@gregbauer4433]

Just don't have her take the helm. They really had no clue what to do with Troi in the movies.

[@jpetras16]

Burnt tomato!

[@RadicalEdward85]

you forgot about the time she confronts her mom

[@nolandavis1129]

Greg Bauer or Beverly Crusher.

[@jv-lk7bc]

...and Marina Sirtis hated her.. i think it was all those pat textbook answers..

[@sugarcombfilms3467]

Mike makes fun of Rich a lot but when it comes to Star Trek, Rich is the only one Mike can really talk to. The King laughs at the Jester but respects him for his wit.

[@Quackamagooska]

Alas, poor Data, I knew him well.

[@kidkangaroo5213]

"The King laughs at the Jester but respects him for his wit." is that from something? it's a really interesting quote

[@melfsacidtarot4220]

It reminds me of that quote from star track: episode 4: " who is the more foolish, Mike or the fool that follows him?"

[@alansmithee419]

@@melfsacidtarot4220 Star Track, the hit new show where all your favourite Federation Captains see whose engineering crew can get them across 1 light year the fastest. Tom Paris has been banned from competing for "hax."

[@Chromeberd]

Google Triboulet the jester. The king gave him the honor to choose his own death after insulting the queen and he chose “old age” as a comeback. Jesters were the real shit.

[@SynthMusicWorld]

Back in 1990 I was in the Navy, and was a huge TNG fan. I remember watching "The Best of Both Worlds" pt. 1. A couple of months after this episode aired, I was shipped off to participate in Desert Shield and Desert Storm. I didn't get to watch part two until 1992, when my enlistment ended. Two years!

[@wedgethx]

Thank you for your service!

[@LosBerkos]

@@wedgethx No need for sarcasm

[@Dennzer1]

@@LosBerkos Boooo

[@SuperHoldenC]

War is hell, my friend.

[@weedpuff]

Two years! Were you able to find out what happened while you were deployed or did you have to wait till you got home?

[@constonks]

"Best of Both Worlds" referring to Riker getting the captain's chair on the Enterprise blew my mind.

[@AscendantStoic]

Finally we are talking about the real Star Trek, what a breath of fresh air.

[@KeithRozett]

Let's be fair, Mike. Discovery also has: 2. Crying 3. Technobabble

[@barthalen]

And putting a guy in charge whose first instinct with everything is to flee and only a few years earlier lived in a mud hut on a beach.

[@SidneyBroadshead]

Star Trek is known for techno-babble. Discovery just uses babble.

[@SidneyBroadshead]

Michael Burnham makes us have fond memories of those ST:NG "Wesley Crusher saves the ship" episodes. Picard on ST:P makes us have fond memories of Star Trek: Discovery.

[@kronos6948]

@@SidneyBroadshead Exactly. Remember when Star Trek had science advisors to make sure what they were talking about is plausible? I think they were gone by the time Voyager filmed.

[@HusbandofLois]

"Stop crying Tilly, we have to repolarize the field of the tachyon emission dish before the nebulonic cirrhosis effect reaches critical" *Michael walks in and taps the computer console six times. The spatial anomaly returns to normal and every white man in the Alpha Quadrant dies painfully*

[@andybyrd4107]

It always makes me emotional when Picard chooses to die rather than be a man who lived a life without passion at the end of Tapestry. I also don't think it was a dream sequence at all. Q was paying back Picard for helping him when he was mortal, by teaching Picard a lesson about himself. I think the more interesting question is whether Q stopped Picard from dying, or if he just chose a moment when Picard thought death was imminent to play this game. I think it was the former. It's not completely unselfish either. Q knows Picard see him as the antithesis of himself, but Picards younger self had a lot of Q like qualities, by getting Picard to accept his younger self, he is also getting Picard to accept and understand him. This is my favourite episode. It also contains one of the best Picard burns "No... I am not dead. Because I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you. The universe is not so badly designed"

[@phillydelphia8760]

That Picard quote... Pure gold.

[@MrLaggan]

Yes yes yes so true the universe is not run by a capricious ornery god thank God for auto correct

[@BeggarsNight]

Also his guffaw-delivery of “You are NOT god!”

[@brettszabo4054]

Tapestry is also my favorite episode. It's 100% wonderful. Also, Q mispronouncing Picard as "Gene Luck Pickerd" makes me laugh every time.

[@jombilywobbily]

I love that it loops back to Picard laughing as he gets stabbed. It provides a reason that maybe he's laughing at Q actually having taught him a valuable life lesson.

[@Jeff-bz5xe]

I would be so happy if they made an entire series of episodes like this for all the older Trek shows. Hearing them talk about the good era of Star Trek is one of my favorite things on the internet.

[@chewymoviereviews4970]

I love this Podcast -Bill Shatner

[@ABhana01]

Ahahahhahahaha

[@nick14braun14]

I hope this episode will change bill’s mind.

[@Corbomite_Meatballs]

@@nick14braun14 Shatner's not in any of the episodes, so it won't.

[@DarkCyberElf]

@@Corbomite_Meatballs He was in all of the TOS episodes they showed clips of however :) That has to count for something!

[@ToumalRakesh]

@@DarkCyberElf No it won't, because it's not in the first 60 seconds of the video.

[@k1productions87]

To the point about the Borg being set up in season 1, that was actually the plan. But the writers strike happened. Originally The Borg were supposed to premiere Season 2, and "Best of Both Worlds" was supposed to cliffhanger end season 2. So not only did the writers strike impact those plans, but it also slashed the budget to the point where the season 2 finale came, they were so out of money for the season that the network actually insisted they do a clip show to reduce costs... so that awful "Shades of Grey" episode was actually Paramount's fault.... when we could have (and should have) had a much better season than we got. Ironically, some of the best eps to come out of that season were because they were forced to get outside writers. "Measure of a Man" for instance was written by a lawyer, not a Hollywood writer. Her very first screenplay I believe, and she absolutely NAILED it. Sometimes you just stumble onto pure gold.

[@ThePhobicSuperior]

I'm almost positive there were hints dropped in season 1 or 2 that Lore either created the Borg or knew about them and went to join them, which is kinda corroborated by the whole Borg cult thing that happens later. I can't remember exactly what he says but he basically describes the Borg to Data and asks him to join him. I'm a little shaky on my early TNG knowledge, I usually start with season 3.

[@jacquesca]

Thanks for writing this out! Even having never watched Star Trek, this comment is so interesting!

[@SentinelBorg]

@@ThePhobicSuperior No, the Borg were originally designed to be hive mind insects. A enemy so alien and so strong, that the Federation would have needed to work together with the Romulans to beat them. But that design was way to expensive so they switched to Cyborgs (very en vogue back then) and the Romulan involvement was slashed with the short season 2 because of the writers strikes.

[@andrewr880]

This should go on forever. Please just do all Trek. As long as that hack is making the "New" episodes, you two hacks should talk about the old ones.

[@Peremptor]

Hell yeah :)

[@r2dezki]

"Mike and Rich talk about their top 100 star trek episodes"

[@danieljamesjones3918]

I just like to think of that hack in his office opening angry emails from CBS, Netflix and Amazon about the pathetically poor viewing figures for his shows then looking at KZbin and seeing RLM clocking up larger viewing numbers and generating more hype with a review show of a 30 year old series with just two supernerds chatting away. :D New ’Trek’ is an abomination.

[@PlasticComplex]

They should do a re:view on Every TNG episode.

[@Ektalon]

These guys are a much higher quality of hack . . .

[@kennethostrer735]

This is why RLM/Mike/Rich/whatever for more than a decade are among the very best things the internet has ever offered. Irresistible and untouchable. Plus, Rich laughing is everything😂

[@davemustang8173]

Finally, just an hour of Mike and Rich talking about star trek now we need like 5 more parts plz xD

[@stvbrsn]

And maybe throw in one short vid of Jay making fun of them for it, just for fun.

[@johansmallberries9874]

All those categories mike names and he doesn’t have one for “episodes where the holodeck malfunction”.

[@harrygibus]

What about holodeck fantasy episodes?

[@Darxide23]

"Episodes where the holodeck OR transporter malfunction" would be a better combo category.

[@johnferguson4869]

True, but they also forgot the ‘meeting a god-like being episode’ that was a favourite of Roddenberry’s

[@Dorian-_-Gray]

That's right, he doesn't, and we come to this channel to watch him talk, not read you whining

[@locustboy8448]

Dorian Gray Whining about whining is still whining. Don’t go into the comments if you don’t want to read comments.

[@steve13thlegion16]

Ill be honest, its been a while since I actually thought they were speaking passionately about a topic. What a great episode of re:View. Can't wait until the rest of these come out.

[@Seth_M-T]

Mike shows a glimpse of happiness in their Willy Wonka re:View as well!

[@SamanthaIreneYTube]

William Shatner: “What does Mike want with a podcast?”

[@UselessDuckCompany]

This is my Christmas! I was not expecting this at all. I put it on the TV and my wife is so annoyed. I love this so much.

[@Konarcoffee]

Ellen didn't pay respect to Dick the Birthday Boy and now she is cancelled.

[@carackcachu1375]

“Karma’s gonna get you back!” Both Mike and Ellen have felt his wrath

[@assvibes3866]

No crossing Rich Evans - he’s an untouchable Hollywood sicko

[@infctdppt]

@@assvibes3866 with vibes like yours I have no choice but to believe you

[@RegularCupOfJoe]

So is it now RLM canon that, because Ellen is basically cancelled, Rich Evans is no longer famous?

[@TomTasker]

@@RegularCupOfJoe questions, questions that need answering!

[@Thunderwolf666]

I'm amazed they overlooked the fact that when the Enterprise encounters the Wolf-359 graveyard, Riker has a chilling moment when he sees the destroyed USS Melbourne, the ship for which he was offered command.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Yes, even if they changed the model used for DS9 (from a Nebula-class to an Excelsior-class)

[@Dorian-_-Gray]

no you're not

[@Sorrelhas]

Red Letter Media can't escape from the "I'm surprised you didn't mention" comments

[@BigCowProductions]

@@Dorian-_-Gray I mean, yeah. He probably is. It surprises me as well

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

I never noticed that.

[@GraceZulynik]

This is so wholesome I am going to cry over the joy these two have for this show and how happy they are talking about it together

[@_ArsNova]

I love all RLM content, but god damn is watching them talk about things they actually like uplifting.

[@tamlandipper29]

It's weird, isn't it? These two cynical bastards getting gleeful.

[@slangislayer]

But they're right, it is good and now I want to watch TNG again

[@tinkertrainbreach]

@@slangislayer They made me to start watching the show. TNG clanky at first couple seasons, but elevates as they goes on. Worth it.

[@mullenwk]

Fun Fact: the writer for the episode “The Measure of a Man,” Melinda Snodgrass, was an amateur fan writer at the time and not a staff writer (due to the writer’s strike in 1988). It was one of my favorite episodes too.

[@Redmanticore]

Snodgrass helped recover a version of the award-winning Star Trek: The Next Generation episode The Measure of a Man by saving an old VHS cassette.[5] This allowed a new version to be re-constructed from existing film shots, and an extended cut with 13 minutes of additional footage was released in HD in 2012.[5]

[@samtaholo]

She had written a TOS novel in 1984, so she was definitely a professional by 1988 - just not a professional screenwriter.

[@duanebarry2817]

@@Redmanticore Cool, how can I see the extra footage? Is in on the Blu Ray discs?

[@hammyhamster8349]

That's something I didn't know. Well done, her. This episode is one of those ethical dilemmas which Star Trek is made for.

[@somebuddyX]

@@duanebarry2817 Yep.

[@RobertJRoman]

A network show would have a team of researchers digging through episodes to find excerpts that match, and illustrate, the points that the hosts are making. You know that Mike pulled all these out of his own head in 5 minutes.

[@jamesboulger8705]

His knowledge about the show is impressive.

[@sol3496]

“Schisms” is a favourite that scared the crap out of me as a kid. The scene where Crusher discovers Riker’s arm has been removed and then reattached still creeps me out.

[@Lissbirds]

Same here. I remember having to turn it off midway when they got to the part with the crewmembers trapped halfway between the floor because it scared me so much.

[@RossTheNinja]

Great episode.

[@hoorayforhawksbills]

It's pretty great yeah. I actually liked "Where silence has lease" better but I agree that the "cosmic horror" type episodes were among the best.

[@01What10]

Same here! "Schisms" gave me nightmares. At the time that show aired I had this irrational fear that aliens were going to abduct me (Yeah, I was a weird kid....) So this episode just happened to play on my worst fears at the time. I remember I was so freaked out my dad slept in a chair in my room just to calm me after the show. (I was around 5 or 6 at the time I believe.)

[@itsd0nk]

Lissbirds that was Data's Day iirc. There's a very similar scene in Schisms though where they find a crewman with all of his blood replaced with a resin glue or some shit. It's equally disturbing.

[@jrinredcar]

This is my favourite podcast!

[@007Spadge]

What I love about Star Trek TNG is that it's so good, even non sci-fi fans love. Eddie Murphy talked about it, and how it was way the only good thing on TV way back when, Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear loves, many friends and family, including my dad, who barely watches any TV, just loves to tinker on bikes and cars for a living and just hangs out at the pub having beers with his mates, all of them know and love Star Trek The Next Generation. I'm so excited for this video!

[@eldrasill]

This video is really nice and ‘warm.’ It’s nice hearing these guys talk about something they love, similar to whoever Jay talks about some interesting, and slightly fucked-up, horror film. The fondness for TNG is very apparent and nice!

[@CarltonGauss]

Slightly?

[@SiouxTube]

RLM, are you guys reading these comments? Seriously, start a podcast or patreon videos or weekly episodes here on youtube for TNG and DS9. The fan base is seriously here for this. I'd pay to hear two old men with paper drone on about Star Trek.

[@mmjahink]

I just thought of something. I think they recognize the lines in the sand and are avoiding burning out too fast on it all. There are only so many episodes to talk about. I say give them time.

[@Dorian-_-Gray]

ugh no

[@UndoomedOne]

Finally some talk about REAL Trek. :)

[@HeelvsBabyface]

God this was beautiful to watch. Thank you.

[@zwimmy]

"I'm so glad coronavirus happened." -Mike Stoklasa

[@rifath8152]

OutofContextRLM material.

[@davidbuggi4971]

Wer nicht?

[@lastrega2968]

Decimated CBS trek and the elderly in one easy step. Q is truly on Mike’s side.

[@SalvatoreSausage]

When you said...Troy always sounds like she is reading from a councilor's script....I freaking lost it. Nailed it.

[@oberstul1941]

Holy shit, I could listen to Mike and Rich talking about TNG 24/7.

[@AL-ws5yi]

Same

[@Grafknar]

Seriously - We could listen to you guys talk about TNG for as many hours as y’all want to. Do every episode if you’d like. Can’t wait for part 2!

[@bfnmo7750]

Who knew we'd ever see Rich Evans talking about Star Trek again

[@CharlesHepburn2]

Best of Both Worlds: I remember watching this live on TV as a boy with my dad. We had watched just about every episode of TNG up to that point. We were ABSOLUTELY RIVETED watching the episode. It got to the cliff hanger ending, and said To Be Continued, and both me and my dad were destroyed. I couldn't believe we actually had to wait ALL SUMMER to see Part 2. It was the greatest moment of TV I've ever experienced, as far as narrative climatic stories that engrossed me totally. What an amazing show!

[@The1rust]

Tapestry hits me hard because it feels like I've settled in to being the cautious Lieutenant who never took chances so now I have to live vicariously through Rich Evans.

[@gregbauer4433]

It didn't click with me until after I watched it a few times - young Jean-Luc Picard was almost exactly like Kirk. He's handsome, he's intelligent, he's single, he sleeps around, he punches people, he calls older women "handsome", he gets drunk, he uses a phaser, he travels the galaxy, he punches people, he bangs his classmate in his bedroom, women love him, he goes on adventures, he punches people, -he's accused of killing his best friend and getting away with it- , and so on!

[@Anthony-jo7up]

Greg Bauer Most underrated comment ever

[@seventhson2151]

@@gregbauer4433 I think it has been established that Kirk was like older Picard in his youth, a bit of a kill joy, and then loosened up

[@piotrd.4850]

Yeah. It too often hits close to home.

[@thebrightestsun4685]

Yes, [Tapestry] inspired me to try taking some responsibilities.

[@Ray_Midge]

The best line in “Tapestry” is when Q comes in saying, “Flowers! Is there a Gene Luck Pickerd?”

[@veloce99]

"...punctual" is the line that always kills me.

[@Ray_Midge]

I know these lines are coming, but I bust out laughing every time. It always gets me. The only other thing like that is the turtle and horses in "Blue Shadows" scene in "3 Amigos."

[@ZacharyhoughR]

"She's a very handsome woman". The line Shattner used when he thought Mike was a hot single lady a bar by mistake.

[@docsavage873]

I can't stop watching these.. over and over.

[@shabadadoo5004]

The Best of Both Worlds analysis was really mind opening lmao, i never even thought of the episode in that way

[@stpieraf]

I really think Q is one of the best things about Star Trek cannon. All the way up to Deathwish in Voyager, his evolution as a character and as a concept ahead amazed me. Think about it.. Your basically a god.. A collective of them. How do you behave? How do you interact? Can you or could you evolve? A fascinating thought experiment with great parallels to power. Can't wait for part two!

[@Atxurra]

You is*

[@speedos]

the most powerful beings in the universe, and, of course, they act like giga trolls

[@char391]

Have you seen the theory that the Q from TNG is the same entity as Trelane (the Squire of Gothos) from TOS?

[@gregbauer4433]

@@char391 I had always just assumed that was true, whether or not others believed it (There is a good Peter David TNG novel that runs with this idea). Ditto with the V'Ger homeworld also being the Borg planet.

[@andy.yarych]

Are Jay and Josh gonna talk about their favorite 18 episodes of Twin Peaks: The Return next?

[@CrazyKoenie]

I’d be totally on board for that

[@KatyGerman]

Here for that

[@orvilleredenpiller338]

Yaaaaaas.

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

Both their number 1s are gonna be Fire Walk With Me

[@ShakyMD]

I was going to make a post on the RLM subreddit about this. I’d love him and Josh to talk about The Return and possibly dive deeper into the original 2 seasons than what they did on the Fire Walk With Me re:View. Also just more David Lynch stuff in general. Talk about his weird KZbin channel!!!

[@larrywalsh9939]

"Measure of a Man" always bothered me, because Maddox argued that Data was Starfleet property, just like the ship's computer - but nobody seemed to have thought of the very obvious fact that Starfleet does not enroll ships' computers in Starfleet Academy, nor does it appoint them ranks. Therefore, since Starfleet already did do so with Data, it already confirmed 'personhood' on him decades ago.

[@PyrokineticFire1]

what about Lore; he wasn't recognized as a person by starfleet ? Data could have sent his disassembled brother to Maddox for study (and maybe fix his evil tendencies) Data had so little faith in Maddox, he was either afraid Maddox would irreparably damage his precious, evil brother or that Lore would be too difficult for anyone but Data to contain.

[@larrywalsh9939]

@@PyrokineticFire1 Or that the writers completely forgot about Lore!

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Imo the most overrated TNG episode, and a terrible gateway to newcomers. I really like it, but for characters' traits, not plot. As in, it only works its magic when you're already infatuated with the gang.

[@xtzyshuadog]

Also, it gave us all a great lesson in sentience, when it's actually whether Data is sapient that should matter.

[@JerekBilbar]

I’ll be real, I’m just getting started on TNG. Idk what I’m talking about. That being said, I think they could make the argument that in this very rare case, a computer would be sent through an academy if it was considered valuable for the federation for said computer to learn alongside humans?

[@ChronoKatie]

Oh God, this was lovely. I could watch Mike and Rich talk about the greatness of TNG for hours on end.

[@catriona_drummond]

They should just start a spinoff channel and talk about every episode of TNG. I'd pay for that. Even the bad ones.

[@wardefiant]

@@catriona_drummond The Bad TNG would be shown to be so much greater than CBS all access Trek. You would appreciate them even more!

[@PurposelessRabbitholes]

Hell yeah, I’ve been waiting for something like this from you guys forever! Fingers crossed you’ll cover DS9 eventually, I’m watching that for the first time now and it’s absolutely incredible

[@swagromancer]

Oh how I envy you.

[@keokihiga8462]

That’s the first ST I got into... slowly making my way thru TNG now

[@Dac85]

I've been doing a rewatch of DS9 recently and I think I have to re-evaluate and place it on top. Except for that last season. Man, that last season is such a disappointment.

[@bobbycorwen]

never stop making TNG related content! this is the best

[@BrandonGiordano]

Mike and Rich talking about tng is really all I need in my life

[@mcrmy119]

I'd honestly be down for a Mike And Rich Review Every Single Episode Of Every Star Trek Series...series. I would listen to these two hacks discuss Star Trek forever if I could.

[@cableroyson9992]

Same

[@ibenholston]

I have never hit like on a RLM video so quickly.

[@JCDenton3]

My favorite Star Trek Episode is when Captain Kirk bullies and humiliates his biggest and most devoted lifelong fan.

[@filmgeekstudios4393]

The follow-up episode where he gets an explanation and apology from the fan, and is just too fucking bitter and dense to listen to more than five seconds of it and claims it was an attack, was my personal favorite

[@puppysect]

Man, it's a shame they stopped making Star Trek in 2005.

[@christheghostwriter]

Feel better now?

[@jcassokh]

Is it really such a shame, though? Imagine if they horribly fucked it up somehow...

[@makasete30]

@@christheghostwriter a little.

[@seamon9732]

@@logicplague "Star Trek"

[@FEVfallout]

Everytime new shows get bashed, but there is a huge difference between enterprise and later...