Let's Talk Low Pass Gates!

[@TiminatorFL]

Kudos for creating a melodic sequence that did not get old after 20+ minutes of repetition. My wife literally said, “why can’t you make jams like this?”

[@pestopan]

❤

[@AJ197-le6zy]

No she didn’t

[@SpikesStudio3]

"Well, its obvious, honey. He has actual talent" ------ thats my house. 🤣

[@quantum_ocean]

@@SpikesStudio3 I think dismissing it as "talent" neglects the years of hard work he's put into refining his craft. Do you it's merely talent?

[@Tofu_Pilot]

I know a good attorney.....

[@immortalman663]

Thanks for making a modular specific channel Jeremy. It's been my obsession the last 2 years or so, and that's all because of you and your videos! I predict an influx of Steady State Gate sales once some people have watched this, that thing sounds so good.

[@matthewdavis473]

I’ve literally been researching low pass gates to use with my Loquelic and Cursus. Good timing

[@AKubbara]

I use the simple optomix with these two, great results 🤘

[@matthewdavis473]

@@AKubbara thank you- I was kind of leaning toward that but wasn’t really sure

[@blogic12]

After trying many LPG’s over the year I have decided my keepers and favorites are Natural Gate, Buchla/Tiptop 292t, and Steady State Gate. Steady State Gate is a lot more than an lpg though, it feels like it’s in a different category.

[@h2o1969]

That steady state sounds so great. I was jamming along, but when the steady state came on, I focused right in.

[@peaterrepeater4441]

Cool video, I tried a lot of LPG‘s and finally realized that maths and basically any filter lets you roll your own LPG since you can finetune the envelopes to basically any shape you like.

[@zechs5079]

I’ve had the Takkab, LxD, Optomix, and Dynamix and I kept the Takaab. I had one amazing LxD and one not so great one. While the LxD had an aggressive quality that I liked, for sitting in the mix I found myself going to the takaab over and over again. It’s an amazing module, even if you take away the fact that it costs peanuts compared with the rest. In fact, I sold all my euro rack gear and the takaab LPG is the only module I kept. I run my neutron and other semi Modular’s through it. The fact that it’s passive allowed me to keep it without need a power source. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for one.

[@real_anxst]

Great stuff! I love low pass gates. All I have for them in my system is a Jolin Agogo, but I'm really tempted by the idea of a Steady State Gate at some point.

[@dasczwo]

dude, you really got your shit back together. thx. now i get lpg. was trying to gain control over a 10grd+ full buchla system at schneidersladen… one day … ill try again.

[@Robert_Babicz]

thank you

[@ferguswaveforms]

Hey this is really useful for people getting started with modular. I hope you do more videos like this exploring a single type of module/ concept.

[@Iam_notamusician]

Love the ssf lpg. It would have been great if there were an attenuverter at the gate. It sounds much sweeter when you give it a (very) low input voltage.

[@lolitsdaelan]

I was just thinking that I don't really know much about LPGs... great timing!

[@waivestate3783]

Pittsburgh Modular Bat Dynamics Controller is my fave LPG. It has resonance like the SSG and sounds amazing.

[@alexandermontagnet3361]

I feel like it's always out of stock. I would love to get one though!

[@auxilix]

i have a steady state gate and dont regret its purchase a single moment. was worried that i would feel like it was missing that vactrol feel due to its design but SSF really nailed it and gave it so much more flavor than i thought i wanted

Thanks, very nice video as usual ! Much love to the channel

[@juliantaylor5956]

I needed a mixer and didnt have any Lpgs or much money and managed to get an optomix floor model from my local music store. Its def a keeper i love the vactorals

[@slarteybartfast]

Really helpful to get insight into these and a comparison between different modules

[@simondoes]

damn, with the attack knob you just sold me on the sinc bucina.

[@rayoneal8391]

That was great! Steady State Gate is my fave. I've been stalking that module for a while. Giving this a rewind because that jam is tops!

[@PatternMusic]

I'll play the Freak Nurage apologist here! I think you maybe didn't get the Freak "Nurage" LPG set up correctly. I have one, and it can hold its own as a LPG. But it's not as flexible as some of these others. Also note that Freak's modulation input range can be changed from 10V to 5V in the settings. But you definitely have to dial in the Cutoff and Drive with Nurage. In many of the non-dialed-in knob positions Freak Nurage doesn't deliver much interesting. That's partly the flaw of Freak being a general purpose filter that has to map its controls to all the different models. (Nurage and Freak are, of course, available in VCV too. Maybe paid?? So people can experiment at home.)

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

I'll give it another try with this info. The manual is very unspecified.

[@sonicaddiction]

I really enjoyed the Freak when I had it. I even have a video on my channel running a Buchla 259e through the Vult in LPG-mode. :)

[@Graincatcher]

Amazing demo. I almost spit all my food out at that Steve Buscemi joke 😂

[@EarthnikNews]

This enthralling demonstration just earned you another subscriber! Great job . . . I got the world of it!

[@err_rawr]

Nice vid! Definitely a topic I need to read up on more - no LPGs in my setup (except the freak)

[@OceanMagnus]

I've had better luck with the Freak as a LPG with CV range set to 5v instead of 10v. I have nothing to compare it with, but I think its sounds a lot better that way!

[@DaveForgac]

This is my favorite new old channer.

[@dammills]

I run my Instruo Saich through the SSG. Gives a real nice Deadmau5 pluck type sound!

[@MarioGodoyMusic]

The Makenoise DXG is next on my to-buy list. Seems like a great option for stereo heavy systems. I also have one of those cute little 0hp passive low pass gates from Mystic Circuits that comes in handy pretty often.

[@luvdattek]

I was really looking for a side by side test with Natural Gate and SSG, and, with a sequence that makes sense ! You’ve done it ! Thank you ! By the way, to me, Natural Gate really makes its magic at the moment you plug it !

[@ottermods3212]

I love that you created a modular channel! Also, thanks for the crash course in LPG. I had heard many people talking about those, but I never paid much mind. I did not know I needed one until just now haha! I agree that the Natural Gate sounds nice, but the SSG was killer when you started adding in some modulation on the controls. Also, the Sinc Bucina sounded pretty decent. That gives me a few choices to keep an eye out for.

[@sonicaddiction]

I had the Vult Freak a couple of years ago and messaged the developer about both the voltage range (5 or 10v) and decay time (short/mid/long) so both of these issues have been fixed since a couple of years back. I got a rather good LPG sound out of it. I have a video from maybe a year ago on my channel where I run a Buchla 259e through it and it does the job. :)

[@sonicaddiction]

It’s no 292 but it handles the 259e rather well i think. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o16rimOLiKaHj68si=60U0cd25AN7xeBS0

[@Vult-DSP]

Yes. I remember that. I added the option to select 5V or 10V modulations. The default is still 10 V which is usually not enough for gate signals. I will consider making the default for the LPG 5V. The main reason that 10 V is the default is because the 1V/Oct is easier to use when the filters are used as oscillators.

[@MaxVanGinneken]

Really enjoyed this and the Mutable patching video. I love both my Natural Gate and SSG. Frap Tools Cunsa also has a pretty nice LPG-ish combination mode, and you can also use it with the bandpass and hipass outputs (though I haven't found a use for the "HPG" mode).

[@boydw1]

I'm guessing you could have run an offset (or a couple of summed offsets) into a VCA to create a 10V trigger for Freak? Would be interesting to try, to see if it gives you a worthy LPG. To my ears it's a tie between Natural Gate & SSG - different flavours but both very good.

[@DrJ3RK8]

Cadmium for life! Cadmium for success! Love my vactrols, but there are lovely ways to do this wihout them too. Nice video! I recently did a design similar to the Natural Gate and have been having a lot of fun with it. You can get some amazing little (hard to describe) plucky details out if you have enough controls to play with. You've got quite the collection there :) I can build you one sometime if you want to try it.

[@boriscat1999]

I have no problem with Cadmium as long as it does not end up in disposable electronics. I hope none of your are throwing away eurorack modules ($$$). Hang onto them forever, sell them when you're done with them, and that's the most environmentally responsible way to deal with devices that have cadmium, lead, etc.

[@IndieAuthorX]

I like using the dynamic contour section on the PGH Double Helix, it has a different vibe than these LPGs. It is sharper sounding, but maybe that is just the way I use it.

[@turbotambourine]

That Steady State Gate is tooooo good! SSF! Well done!

[@christdolphin69]

arent vactrols just an led + a photoresistor wrapped in heatshrink tubing?

[@synkrotron]

yeah, I've made a few

[@boriscat1999]

I have the Takaab 2LPG v3. It's very affordable and I can ping it with a trigger for the classic pluck soung. I can give it a gate to give it some sustain. Or with the right module, an ADSR envelope to use it as an VCA with simple low-pass filter. There is also a tone switch to let you choose between 3 different tone settings if you want to really apply a lot of low-pass filtering for a bass or some kinds of drum sounds.

[@zechs5079]

I’ve had the Takkab, LxD, Optomix, and Dynamix and I kept the Takaab. I had one amazing LxD and one not so great one. While the LxD had an aggressive quality that I liked, for sitting in the mix I found myself going to the takaab over and over again. It’s an amazing module, even if you take away the fact that it costs peanuts compared with the rest.

[@alexandermontagnet3361]

Isn't the Takaab a passive LPG?? Would you definitely recommend it? I am trying to move on from a filter or two I have in my setup and acquire a low pass gate.

[@alexandermontagnet3361]

@@zechs5079 Would you definitely recommend it? Isn't the Takaab passive? Does it truly sound better than the Dynamix? Thanks for your help!

[@boriscat1999]

@@alexandermontagnet3361 yes. it's a passive LPG. it will sound different depending on how "hot" your gate CV is (almost always 5V). an attenuator on the gate will make it quieter but also not as percussive sounding. Disadvantage to an all passive LPG is that it is what it is and you don't have much control over it. you can flip a switch to color the sound a little bit. Even with those limitations, it does that West Coast "ping" sound that is sometimes hard to do with an envelope and VCA. And it is hard to argue with the price of a simple passive LPG versus an active LPG module or a multiple modules to do VCA and Envelope. a VCA and envelope is more versatile over an LPG. as you can run multiple envelopes for modulation and some envelopes can loop. A Doepfer A-132-3 or A-130-2 are examples of good VCAs that won't break the bank. There are lots of options for envelopes. Rides in the Storm FEG is great and can loop in only 4 HP. Behringer 140 gets you two ADSR + VCLFO and includes inverted outputs and has nice lighted sliders (on sale right now too). Any of the clones of MI Peaks (often called Pique) can act as a pair of AR/ASR envelopes, a tap-tempo LFO, and any number of functions (it's all digital). It does offer a lot of !/$ and can be found in micro editions in only 4 HP

[@alexandermontagnet3361]

@@boriscat1999 Thank you! So for what it can do at it's price point you would definitely recommend the Takaab LPG? Also, I definitely need more envelopes. Are those your favorite in the 4HP size? I would like to keep the HP to a minimum, while not sacrificing quality. Any other recommendations?

[@garrulux2695]

Love mine SSG too, works great after Zaps!

[@nov3c]

My favourite lpg (that I own) is the RYO Aperture. V classic buchla sounding vactrol lowpass but with resonance, an output distortion & a filter/both/vca mode switch. If I was trying to buy an lpg now I think I'd probably buy the Steady State Gate. It's pretty amazing to be able to do audio rate frequency modulation etc. on something that still sounds otherwise very vactrol-ish

[@TiminatorFL]

Fantastic primer on LPGs. Love the format. So inspiring.

[@artisan002]

Among your demonstrated devices, I have to vote for either the Natural Gate, or Steady State Gate.

[@tillorrly1128]

Me during the video: I frigging need a Natural Gate, that thing sounds amazing. Me after seeing it's price: Nope, nope, no, hell no! Nope.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

Thanks for the UK-only reference at 1:44… I really didn’t get on with the Sinc Bucina at all. Do I really want to pay now/ get a Natural Gate by the end of the year? Possibly. Meantime I will continue to patch the v1 and v2 Optomixes in everything- and I will certainly be keeping my eyes open for a Dynamix.

[@zechs5079]

The dynamic is great and is EXTREMELY snappy, but it never felt like a low pass gate to me. It had its own quality that I really loved though.

[@calfkillerriver]

i felt like a crazy person because i couldn't quite jive with the natural gate. it does sound great but the memory feature they tout (of it progressively opening under rapid triggers) i found nearly impossible to work with, as the increase in volume was too great. it felt like i couldn't e.g. send fill patterns to it because it would suddenly overwhelm the mix.

[@0oNoiseo0]

Great video! thank you

[@Gmartin4049]

Poor optomix. No love? It's a fantastic low pass gate. I love them all. each quite different in their own right. I currently have 4 lowpass gates. optomix, sinc bucina, synthrotek and taklab. Looking forward to tiptop buchla one at some point and Steady sate. Keep up the great vids. x

[@anastasia0zardonova]

Interesting video! I really loved the lopass gate in the pittsburgh modular double helix oscillator. I wish i could get that as a standalone module. My optomix is not really doing it for me.

[@DionDeGennaro]

I love my SSG but that Natural Gate is starting to steal my attention... Its also great how the steve buscemi has that classic NE sound still

[@alex-r-t]

I'd be curious about your thoughts on something like the Dynamics Controller Bat from Pittsburgh Modular - many of their designs are "love letters", I guess, to the heritage of both East and West coast synthesis. They've designed a number of analog low pass gates over the years and I'd be interested in how their implementations compare to some of the other ones mentioned here (as well as other types of modules in your collection). Thanks for the video!

[@Wiktorion]

informative and beautiful video!

[@MishaMansoor]

Great breakdown. I have the SSF AND Optomix, but the Natural Gate is an LPG so nice I bought it twice!

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Damn! Lucky you!! It's a super super great one.

[@AndyVonal]

I am so getting into LPGs! I bought the XPO (your fault...) and am loving tapping the waveform outs into the Doepfer LPG. I will get more (probably the Sinc Bucina and the Make noise DXG). really loved this video. It has opened my eyes the the possibilities these little boxes offer! Great Job, Jeremy! Hugz!

[@elektrenai219]

Great video Jez

[@GeorgeLocke]

I have a bunch of filters but no LPGs (except the emulation in Squawk Dirty). Never really got into it...

[@xnaut_g]

You’re good. Unfortunately Eurorack is so expensive that although I kinda understand what a LPG does (with the help of this video) it’s just too risky to buy modules hoping I know what I’m doing.

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Give VCV rack a try

[@LeoPerantoni]

The only lpg I own is the optomix v1 and I absolutely love it. I love feeding it chords from plaits in chord mode, sounds so cool and stabby.

[@tillorrly1128]

The plaits has its own LPG 😉.

[@LeoPerantoni]

@@tillorrly1128 yeah I know, but it sounds way different from optomix

[@joelmiller3869]

cool stuff! love the pittsburgh LPGs

[@Dyselon]

If you want to get into doing DIY modular, a low pass gate really is a dramatically simple device.

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Great tip

[@thesrabbit]

Great video. I still don't get how it's different than a single envelope controlling both an LPF and VCA, with different mod depth for each, as long as it's an exponential curve. I guess if I get curious I can try it out on the Disting EX and maybe I'll see the light. Love the patch and sequence btw!

[@a_w_young]

I don't have a single lpg and the video was timely. The new stereo lpg from make noise is interesting since I've been exploring a lot of stereo things but I love everything from SSF that I've tried so far

[@Jin-Hu]

Really enjoying this new channer thank you J

[@cthulholmhastur5317]

Great content! Liked and subscribed! I'm liking the Steady State.. I'm all about saturation and resonance :)

[@maxmatson1578]

I have a volca modular and a Kastle mk2. And I am trying to figure out how to connect them properly together. To where they co-exist eco-wise? at least trying to see how to feed it into the second low pass gate of the module? If you have any tips on that I'd love to hear them thank you 🙏✌️

[@clopz9701]

I absolutely love my low pass gates. I have an LXD and the Natural Gate. I love the sound and playability of the natural gate. But the LXD sounds amazing at audio rate especially when i through a sub square from the complex oscillator i’m using. Next on the list will have to be the Steady State Gate demoed here

[@MrNamaikisaru]

I have a passive dual lpg from error and a DoepferA-101-2 that I need to understand more.

[@DJFranzOsaka]

Thanks for making this! I have been wondering what a LPG was all about, and now I want to suddenly get one 😂 I have been using Maths to CV my filters in a similar way. A LPG basically just combines a filter, 2 envelopes, and a vca? Am I missing any other secrets?

[@darkeldarblade916]

I just love your videos! Keep it up!

[@hyperbolero]

Thanks for the explanation! Now I really want one... Have you tried Doepfer Low Pass gate? I'm curious how that one stacks up to these

[@sinkronize]

Awesome video! May i ask you how did you build the sequence?

[@HousePlant_Ambient]

That natural gate, wow. I checked on Reverb, fuck that 😂

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Fr

[@alexandermontagnet3361]

It's insanity!

[@mrotaveria]

Love my Natural Gate but miss my LxD. The SSG sounds super rave-y.

[@linuxbender]

Nice!

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

No Buchla/tiptop quad dynamics manager ?. Sound fantastic Gonna stick with my OG MN OPTOMIX til I can one day do the entire Buchla system (didn’t want to dabble in that tiptop Buchla stuff til ALL the modules are out and available

[@mntbighker]

SSG definitely has the largest range of "colors" available ;-) Too bad DXG didn't make it in here. Had mine about a day and a half.

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Yeah I'm trying not to spend a ton of money but I do wanna try it

[@mntbighker]

@@RedMeansRecordingModular I want a 3 Sisters if they ever ship any. It's really the end of my hot list. Maybe Batumi II and Belgrad if those ship.

[@soupforare]

The doepfer LPG is great _but_ there's a fair amount of variability in the vactrols they're using for whatever reasons. For the price it's a steal, even "bad" examples aren't bad they just don't ping as high, for the few I've played.

[@philip6252]

Great video!

[@robingroulx]

I love the steady state. It gets sooooo nasty.

[@edoardoschnell]

So is It right to say if you have a vca a VCF and an env you can make a lpg, but not vice versa?

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Try it with a lpf and vca and an exponential decay feeding both

[@StillRez]

Check out the AI synthesis AI017 lpg. Sounds good when used normally, but turn the input attenuator all the way up and then the resonance all the way up, the overdriven resonance sounds evil, alien, and just so very awesome

[@Digiphex]

Steady State Gate sounds cool.

[@wes2819]

can you also test DXG at some point

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

When budget allows!

[@sandroidmusic]

Just would like to shout out Erica Synths Pico LPGs

[@hyderhydra3269]

whats the total HP for that beast?

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

Not sure but modular grid has all the HP amounts

[@hyderhydra3269]

@@RedMeansRecordingModular any advice on keeping it dust free? i keep mine in an enclosure but still requires a lot of cleaning

[@RedMeansRecording]

@@hyderhydra3269 befaco sells a brush for gear, and there are reverse vacuums for keyboards that work well.

[@martintaylor9205]

Well we would all love NG but almost impossible to attain so next best is SSG I guess

[@CatFish107]

Extra M? Dangit. My hoody only sez RMR. New merch?

[@_DRMR_]

Now I want to program my own digital LPG for the Patch.Init() :)

[@georgeoffenberger1262]

Holy hell how many mods do you have. Envy

[@BartdeBoisblanc]

MMm the Low Pass Gate functions simular to a Karplus Strong Algorithm.

[@maarzt]

sinewave loves me

[@dmikalova]

The elephant sounds soooo buttery but I can't justify the priced next to the SSG

[@tris421]

Barker - Utility & Debiasing. Low Pass Gates used to their max.

[@lunarthyme]

my favorite LPG is whatever one I'm listening to right now 😂

[@danieloberhoff1]

Hmm, you think the demand for LPGs would ever have made a dent in the global demand for cadmium?

[@danieloberhoff1]

I mean in comparison to the co2 footprint of even this video...

[@danieloberhoff1]

sounds nice tho :)

[@albonymus1682]

lil feedback on my side: the hectical moving papers in the back especially the black ones are extremely distracting and stressfull for me and almost make me skip this whole part.....at least when watching on my PC. Otherwise great video!

[@CatFish107]

Kitty gets smooches on top of his head, not lips. Much like me, he doesn't like people touching his whiskers.

[@eubique]

I would tend to a use a no-pass gate when The Archers comes on.

[@RedMeansRecordingModular]

I have found out after this video that the archers is traumatizing to a huge number of people and I didn't even know what it was :(

[@0VRLNDR]

I am sine wave, you are sine wave, we are sine wave, Sine Wave R Us

[@ob1quixote]

I love sine waves. They are much better than _Cats_ . I'm going to listen to them again and again.

[@EpsteezyFoSheezy]

Oh Jeremy I hate you for making me want a Natural Gate even more than I already did 😔

[@MeAlexSenna]

Natural Gate is so Overpriced, doesn’t even have Vactrols to justify the price. If you tests it against the Buchla vs the pro LoPass, you get better sound out. Even if is the tiptop buchla has better performance at a quarter of the price