CFMOTO Engine Brake Problems and Fixes

[@ceska2007]

You are the only youtuber that puts up material that actually helps! Thanks. I actually changed my belt 2day and noticed one of the little pieces came of inner bearing and i was havin bother getting it bk on. Gonna take it off first thing 2mo 😂 cheers my man.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Thank you 🙏 glad we could help

[@robertkeefer2128]

Thank you I just bought a CForce 600 touring today I am definitely going to get rid of my engine brake one way bearing thank you!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome 🙏

[@stevenschmitz2361]

Thanks man! Can't wait to get my new Uforce 1000 so I can tear it apart! Been watching roo many of your videos. Minnesota.

[@Dat_Sun]

My nitro rc engines had always suffered from slipping one way bearings on the pull starter models. Especially in cold conditions.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yes. One way bearing I hate them lol

[@johnnyjones2275]

Good info! Just bought a CF moto & I hate the engine braking. Will be deleting it this weekend. Thanks for the info!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome 🙏

[@Dendrotera1]

Is not dangerous to delete that engine brake??

[@fallenknight4943]

I have a 2024 cforce 600 touring as well and its doing the same thing Very Dangerous because it will drive without giving it any throttle. Going to buy the sockets now to take off the 1 way . Thank you buddy very good video ✌️

[@remid161]

Favorite part: We're just going to tap this back in...uses hand. 🤣 Love it! Very informative though and an awesome video! Thanks for posting!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

😂. Thank you 🙏 and your very welcome.

[@bigreezy691]

Man my one way is toast...I'm glad I saw this...

[@R.N.GPerformance]

😊

[@bigreezy691]

@@R.N.GPerformance just ordered new bearings from you...

[@jimmydesperado2936]

Good stuff RNG. My 21 is surging fwd a little bit in park and neutral w/750 miles on it. Guess I'll be taking it apart this weekend and do the same thing if needed. Thank you.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome 🙏

[@hoosierway]

It's good to know that the engine braking can be eliminated. My 800xc feels like it's going to throw me over the handlebars when I left off the throttle.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yeah it can be harsh.

[@joshuacripe1514]

Ummm 800xc doesn't have a 1 way bearing lol

[@zokonjazokonja]

I think that it is not related to one way bearing, your engine braking will be still present because it is enganged through main clutch. Only below some 2200 rpm when clutch is disengaged than one way bearing (if you have it) jump in. If there is no one way bearing than you need to apply brakes.

[@mantarayasurf]

I got a 2023 800 XC wonder if does it have it or not? @@joshuacripe1514

[@lucabolani946]

I Need to Say thank s to You, because befor to by my CF 625 Touring (that Is , for American Market the 600 Touring) I have an idee about the specific and waht It need...so...great video and job...thankyou

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your very welcome 🙏. We also got upgraded roller bearings for these they will be in the website in the next day or so. Www.rngperformance.net

[@bigjay6743]

If you manage to get mud & water in your clutch it doesn't take long for that 1 way bearing to go. Great video Redneck Garage👍

[@R.N.GPerformance]

I agree. Thank you 🙏

[@RR-po7eb]

Could you please assist me on which way the one way bearing goes

[@chrisb.1301]

I’m sorry but I have to say it It goes one way!! 😂

[@FANATICALSIDERIDER]

Keep the knowledge coming. 🤯

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Definitely will for sure.

[@stevejanek8072]

Wow! Great to know. Again, great content & instruction! Thanx once again man!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome thank you 🙏

[@troywhite76]

I bought the new RNG bearings and was wondering should I clean the shaft before putting the new bearing in? If so, should I lightly grease it as well before I put it back on.

[@chuckbeiter6760]

I have a 2022 cfmoto 600 and I absolutely hate with a passion the engine braking. You said something in there about removing the One way bearing but for 5mph and under. Will it not remove it totally or can you not do that? Will removing it for under 5mph make it seem a lot better? I’d like to remove it totally if I could. Or at least I think I would. Thanks and let me know best way to get rid of it. Chuck

[@R.N.GPerformance]

It won’t temp out totally. But it will about 4MPH and under.

[@davorcujic6549]

how to eliminate engine braking on the overland 1000, I want to continue rolling without engine resistance when I release the throtle...is there any chance to get that effect...tnx you are the king of Cf moto's repairs

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Hello there. With a CVT there isn’t my friend unfortunately because I also would love that too.

[@davorcujic6549]

@@R.N.GPerformance thank you, my friend, for your answer... it means that the CVT does not have a one-way bearing, if it cannot be completely eliminated, is there at least a chance to reduce the effect of engine braking, greetings from Croatia

[@ronaldkingsbury5140]

I have a cforce 1000 overland. Sometimes my engine brake won’t engage and I’ll rev it up a little and it’ll catch again. Is that the one-way bearing or something else?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

That’s normal clutch operation. Our primary clutch kit actually helps that tremendously. Www.rngperformance.net

[@lanceberwald9217]

So the one way bearing for a Cforce is better than the factory one way bearing in the Uforce? I have your primary kit in my 2023 Uforce 1000. I am having a hard shifting issue while the engine is at high idle after cold startup. Is this the beginning of one way bearing failure?

[@Ekmanjohnny]

This might be a dumb question but i have a 2023 520 and i wonder if both the footbrake and handbrake brakes all 4 wheels?

[@jimmycarter1843]

Uncle Willie here again you should make a video and let people know where the air exhaust is and how deep of water you can go in without flooding your clutch out you may have a video already out that I haven't seen only because you got crazy amount of them and I can only bench watch for so long

[@R.N.GPerformance]

😂 yeah I have over 1000 videos

[@jimmycarter1843]

@@R.N.GPerformance out of all the years I was forced into being a foreman trying to teach dumbasses you blow me out of the water you're a very good teacher and truly appreciated by more people than you know you're doing such a great job keep it up my brother I tried for years to try to fix stupid but that one can be fixed

[@aaronmcfee506]

@@R.N.GPerformance seriously impressive

[@chuckbeiter6760]

I have a 22 600 and absolutely hate the eng braking. You said something about this will remove it for 5mph and under. 2 questions, so it will not remove it on higher speeds? Then also you said there’s 2 or 3 bearings in there. Since mine is not broken how do I know which one again is for the eng braking? Thanks and I’m excited about removing it. I think I’ll like the atv a lot more.

[@garypatrick2403]

Very informative!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Thank you

[@sbowling6238]

Thanks for the tip

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome

[@SimplyOffRoad]

I need to do this.

[@Zabovnikaz]

Hello,I wanted to find out or your cf 600T at higher speeds and sudden braking,there are some sounds similar metal rubbing or something similar some kind crushing? quad bike two months old passed 124 miles is this one way bearing? Or this is normal clutch job?

[@TheQash18]

@R.N.GPerformance My problem is that when I start the engine, the secondary clutch also starts spinning. I checked the one way bearing and it's in place, it's not damaged! I can't figure out what it could be. The only thing I've noticed is that the bearing spins in both directions.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

What machine do you have? Please call me 3308060728

[@TheQash18]

@@R.N.GPerformance Sorry for the delay, the only big problem is that I live in Italy 😅... I have a 2021 Cforce 600 Touring which in Europe is the 2021 Cforce 625 Touring model. I also made an attempt to clean the variator with isopropyl alcohol but it didn't help. The only advice the seller gave me here was just to replace the one way bearing but that's money thrown in the wind to me. Have a wonderful day and thank you so much for replying !

[@TheQash18]

@@R.N.GPerformance Hi, I finally fixed it! The one-way bearing once inserted into the hub must turn counterclockwise and not clockwise! Luckily my bearing is safe for the moment, I cleaned it and lubricated it inside with lithium grease. The secondary clutch no longer idles when turned on, so problem solved without wasting money! Thanks again for your availability! I ask you one last thing, do you also ship your products RNG Performance abroad? Thank you, have a nice day!

[@andrewbrassard7332]

I just started getting a grinding noise on my 2016 cf Moto 500 short wheel base non power steering model , when I let off the gas, especially going down a hill without pressing the gas Going uphill I don’t here the noise at all. Was your machine making a grinding noise when you let off the gas and were coasting ? Any insight would be greatly appreciated thanks for the video

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yes it was. That will be this bearing.

[@andrewbrassard7332]

Can I use some other spray to clean it instead of the silicone spray u used ?

[@andrewbrassard7332]

Very weird when I pulled my clutch off only the 1st part came off the back piece where the belt rides on stay on I couldn’t get the belt off to try and slide the back part of the clutch off , it wasn’t like yours when you pulled the whole thing off and then removed your spring the the pressure clip then the bearing I tried getting the secondary clutch off so I could try and pull the rest of the clutch plate off but couldn’t unloosen the nut I’m not sure of the bearing is behind that second plate that came off all as one on yours or not Any info would help cuz I can’t find anything online mine is a 2016 cf Moto 500 swb (short wheel base) Thanks

[@mikebehling5579]

love the video

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Thank you 🙏

[@osamaabgar]

Thank you for your effort. I did what you did, but it only helps at a very slow speed of 1-2 km. How can the engine brake be canceled more than this and at greater speeds?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

It can’t be. It’s the nature of the clutch.

[@FANATICALSIDERIDER]

This is very interesting and good to know. Redneck Garage knocks it put of the park ince again. 🏁👍

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Thank you 🙏

[@_DB.COOPER]

May the C FORCE be with you!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

For sure lol

[@traderz3399]

May “cforce” be with you

[@roaddiablo]

Thee OEM bearing is trash tbh. Ceramic hybrid is a decent upgrade but mud an water will destroy them too. Replace with a Timken, KOYO,FAG, OR other name brand. 35x47x7 Bearing #is 6807

[@larry97016]

The 1-way bearing part is junk, but the two outer roller bearings are a very high quality japan bearing. Also a ceramic bearing is not a good type of bearing for this application. Ceramic bearings have a lower speed rating & a lower load rating than the Japan bearings. Also the bearings need to be extra clearance bearings do to expansion from clutch heat. The best bearings for this application would be bearings made with stainless steel. As stainless steel gets hot the stainless steel will actually become harder from the heat work harding it. Try drilling a ⅛" piece of stainless steel stock with a high speed driil. You'll never make a hole because it work hardens from the heat, but if you drill it with a very slow speed and a lot of pressure you can drill a hole in it.

[@mantarayasurf]

I got a 2023 800 XC wonder if does it have it or not?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

It does have the bearing but it don’t have the one way bearing. We do stock the replacement bearing 49.99 if you ever need one.

[@Skinz907]

Mine is surging forward and also feels like my brakes are stuck at time’s literally dragging the tires and smell the belt working. Is that also a symptom of that bearing going bad?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

It definitely could be.

[@evrengokhanyilmaz]

Hey Dude, great video. Just liked that. One question, with my zforce 1000 sport, I hear a lot of noise when the car going at low throttle where engine break tries to engage but then gives up then again engages(since I stop throttle and then put again little throttle) I hear several metal noises like locking-unlocking engine breat etc. Is this normal in this case. ( I promise I will get rid of 1 way bearing when I visit service) But here I wanted to ask is that engine break attempt is sometimes instable for average speed hill down with little throoatle. Is this normal do you think?Or is this charactesristics of CF ATV-UTVs which I realised that I had similar in my CF800 but not concerned in the past.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Those noises are normal clutch noises.

[@evrengokhanyilmaz]

@@R.N.GPerformance thanks, for quick feedback.

[@ronpage101]

Good video. I would like to try a quad with this mod before I do it. Are the brakes strong enough for long steep trails? I find myself going in and out of engine braking on long down hills which is annoying as heck.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Brakes are plenty strong enough

[@richardlovato8980]

Do not buy cfmoto unless your rich and love garbage warranties are just as bad as there products

[@ronpage101]

@@richardlovato8980 Make you have a good dealer you are buying from. Makes all the difference. The CF moto I have has been a great machine.

[@zokonjazokonja]

Is this problem with ome way bearing is related only to CF or others with CVT also have same issue (Can Am, Yamaha...)?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yeah it’s any make model with a CVTech clutch.

[@troywuestefeld2893]

You said you still have engine braking above 5mph right? So does it freewheel after?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

That is correct. It will freewheel after.

[@mathieupitre175]

Do you remember what size nut the inner nut was by chance? I’m assuming 32 or 34 maybe a 36 thanks

[@R.N.GPerformance]

32

[@Dendrotera1]

Hi, is liqui moly sae75w90 gl5 good for a cf moto x1000 transmission? :) or MOTUL 75W-90 GEAR 300 LS

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yes

[@_DB.COOPER]

I don’t ride mine hard so hopefully I won’t have this issue. I don’t want to be working on my machine, I want to be riding it. Thanks.

[@richardlovato8980]

If you own a cfmoto sell it asap they do not last and give everyone problems or should I saw multiple problems. I got 118 miles before mine broke down and the company said they can’t help lol 😂

[@_DB.COOPER]

@@richardlovato8980 you should learn how to ride.

[@sk00t3r8]

interesting and informative ,, thanks

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Your welcome 🙏

[@fallenknight4943]

This did not help mine what else coukd be the issue? 2024 cforce 600 touring with 500 miles

[@duaneburdon2947]

I have a cforce 800, starting off in high gear really slow ,mine seems to grind and some clicking sounds come from the belt cover , dealer says the belt got burt and that's what's making the sound 🤷‍♂️🤯, could it be the one way bearing causing this noise ?

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Yes it could be.

[@TheQash18]

Hello, if I have to replace the one-way bearing, how do I understand the direction of installation? But above all, does it have a correct side or can I install it safely? Thank you very much

[@R.N.GPerformance]

For reference you would need a manual that will tell you witch direction it gos. Me personally I would do exactly what I did here because they are weak and will be a continuous problem.

[@TheQash18]

@@R.N.GPerformance Thank you! Have a nice day!

[@codywright54]

got a 2020 CForce 600 Touring. When i go into L or R i have to give it a substantial amount of throttle to get it to go then no more issues. Im wondering if this is causing it.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

That would be the factory clutch kit doing that. My clutch kits I sell are superior over OEM or anything really out there.

[@codywright54]

@@R.N.GPerformance I would be Intrested to reclutch.

[@tinkertrek]

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[@nickmcnellis3937]

Can't believe that little bearing is what holds back a 800 pound bike and 1 or two riders, no wonder it doesn't hold up.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

And that’s exactly why it don’t stand a chance of lasting lol

[@MakeFamous88]

If the one way bearing goes will this cause my bike from going any faster then 20kmh in high gear lol

[@bigjay6743]

I can't stand the engine breaking honestly.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

Me either I hate it.

[@richardlovato8980]

Me too. As a matter of fact I don’t like the ATV at all this brand is the worst quality machine I have ever seen or purchased.

[@dirtydogvideo]

do you know if the big rear cargo box will fit on the front rack? i need more storage for ice fishing gear and if i could get a box on the back and one on the front i think i would have enough room.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

I’m not sure

[@guneyazsin9859]

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