"Redpill" - The Business of Exploiting Lonely men

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There's a real problem, the epidemic of sad and lonely men. And there's a group of people who have been exploiting them for years, earning 10s of millions of dollars by giving awful advice, sending them down a path of worse and worse life choices.
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[@KiraTV1]

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[@Hygat]

Your ability to breakdown modern society accurately without false bias is amazing, please dont stop...

[@jasthebaker]

I love ground! I've been using it for a long time now and it's a great app/website. I get nearly all my news through it

[@passenger175]

Do they have Russia Today? Sorry, no. There is a difference between differing views and plain state propaganda

[@Last_Victory]

I can disprove your whole thesis that red pill is wrong. Only 40% of men reproduce, but 80% of women reproduce. So clearly women are highly promiscuous, and only the top 40% of men get to pass on genetics. Plain and simple we are in hyper competition to succeed. Life for a man implies constant struggle to succeed. A man must build his worth, a woman is born with worth but it diminishes as they age. There is a 60% divorce rate for a reason, and who pays alimony and child support? That’s right the man!

[@themostbestwizard]

Wow! I'm really impressed with how you analyzed the root cause of the problem rather than just dunking on a certain human-trafficking predator.

[@jeffhousen8968]

Dating apps are more dangerous than you think. Picture this, you are dealing with a middle man in a deal where if the deal is a success there will not be another trade. Therefore the people behind the dating apps have a high interest in you not finding a match, yet spending money and time searching. This is incredibly evil

[@littlejohnny41]

Something that I sadly fell for multiple times. Nowadays I just accept loneliness instead. No point changing who I am

[@RostovII]

@@littlejohnny41 I do believe that is the point of this video, that men should just sit down and accept whatever is going on in their lives as "natural". In my opinion this video is very biased and dishonest.

[@glsssm9575]

Dating apps are also extremely skewed in favor of women. For every woman on dating apps there's 5-10 men. Meaning women have the power to be more picky, especially because men are so eager to throw themselves before a woman. In real life women still have room to be more picky. The only cities where the power is flipped in favor of men is Miami, New York & New Jersey, only because women vastly outnumber men there. However, even this is starting to turn against men's favor because a growing number of women are dropping out of dating altogether, for reasons that would take way too long to explain to a man. The best solution to this(RIGHT NOW) is to teach men to be happy in solitude. Women seem perfectly happy living alone and that is because they are taught to put their loving/nurturing energy EVERYWHERE. It's seen as normal for a woman to have a pet she uses as her love object. Men are taught not to prioritize their loving/nurturing instincts at all. I do think pet ownership would be very helpful for a lot of men. In the long term, I think completely restructuring society's ideals for families is necessary if we want to avoid extinction. A lot of men dont seem interest in fatherhood, as we can see from the fatherless child statistics. I think society would have to just accept that single motherhood would be the norm. Women will have to accept that a loving family with a husband isn't going to be accessible anymore. Men will have to accept that women will NEVER go back to marrying men en masse. As a woman lemme tell you, being single is becoming the new status symbol. Women are starting to pity women with male partners. We're never going back to the 1950s where women were rushing for marriage (which only happened bc so many men died/were disabled/were abusive after WWII, giving normal well adjusted men the opportunity to be choosy).

[@JollyGiant19]

@@RostovIIWrong. He very clearly says you should be engaging with people offline.

[@JollyGiant19]

⁠@@glsssm9575This is also wrong. Look at that study OkCupid did years ago. Women on average also have poor results in online dating. Especially if they’re not white. Same for non-white men. It’s shit for everyone aside from the top 1% because it’s a meat market. Dating apps are terrible, do not use them!

[@ddjennison]

I am in my late 40's, married with kids. I am so freaking thankful that I dated in the 90's and early 2000's before social media was a thing. If you wanted to meet women, you would go to a party or club. You had to muster up whatever confidence you could, but you also had a steady stream of opportunities for social self-correction. You were accountable for your behavior. You were not anonymous. You were forced to keep it real and challenge yourself. I feel so sorry for young guys in this era. So much working against them and their self image and so much exploitation of their insecurities with no real solutions available. :(

[@mpo48]

you don't deserve any of that happiness when you don't give any of it away to other people, you say you feel sorry for people but what you should do is help people instead, hypocrite

[@fleshworm]

Parties, clubs and bars and all that follows still exist and meeting people like that still works.

[@ida6950]

​@@fleshwormThat's what I don't get. Social media isn't mandatory, it's a choice and I've made the decision to delete my social media a few years ago for my mental health (unless you wanna count YT). Despite being introverted and struggling with mental health I still go to bars, festivals, swing dancing and bouldering. It's all still out there! There's so much fun and exciting stuff in the world and I've met the absolute coolest people just by going out.

[@bestieswithtesties]

I think the real problem with social media is that it allows for different groups of people to all find each other and form large communities like never before. In the past when someone was stupid everyone around them would tell them they're stupid and they'd self adjust. In today's world stupid people can just find other stupid people online and they all validate each other and cheer each other on. Same thing going on here just with lonely insecure males. Instead of being forced to self adjust and work on themselves they can just go online and find like minded people who tell them they're not the problem its women and everyone else who is the problem. They can feel better about themselves without having to put in any effort to change and improve.

[@ida6950]

@pyropulseIXXI I realise there might be cultural differences, but regarding your last statement, over here at least that's certainly not the case. In my experience people just go to clubs for dancing and hopefully good music, not hooking up. People here don't even get dressed up for that, we just wear everyday clothes.

[@AcidGlow]

Sometimes the key to escape loneliness is to find a good friend you can count on. But it's not always that easy for everyone... ⏳

[@Roshea]

You make more friends with greater integrity in the RP community than you would in the eternal anglo cvckfest that is this channel.

[@NightinGal89]

It's harder to get a real friend than a romantic partner

[@matt_00000]

@@Roshea That's the neat part. We aren't making friends on this channel. We make friends through Real Life. You should try this. To live outside the internet is much more fulfilling. Therefore, we aren't making friends on Hustlers University or other scams your idols sell to you.

[@renaldsunset]

@@NightinGal89💯

[@MultiSciGeek]

Agreed

[@Marshall-Bit]

one side is telling lonely men that they're monsters, and the others are scamming lonely depressed men, sucks being a sad depressed man

[@johnsmith-ht3sy]

What he failed to address is the MSM media targets hatred towards straight white men.

[@arete7884]

"just be happy bro"

[@enricoa.9082]

There is good content out there, worth listening to. This dumb video is not it.

[@iamanderson]

just take what's good, I've not spend a cent on the red pill gurus and probably not going to do it in the future, there are a lot of insightful and useful things that they predicated, is just a matter to use common sense, even this video criticizing all of them doesn't take into account the difference in impact that the red pill gurus make in comparison to platforms like ou ef, the damage is way much worse on one side of those. The "red pill gurus" are like the fruit, you don't eat all, just the useful part of it

[@student40008]

@@enricoa.9082 Yeah lets just go back to worshipping Daddy Tate, amiright? The redpill is perfect and we can't critique them, right? Just admit you have no woman and r mad at the world

[@RipVanWinkleXX]

The best thing I ever did was me going to board game meetups. That helped me build more social skills.

[@hyperteleXii]

Card games too, even if it's Bridge with old ladies.

[@Jonaelize]

Yes! There is often a board game meetup in a bigger city, they are great

[@AaronSilver-Pell]

Boss

[@DMHR100]

Barely any women there.

[@NiteRacer]

@@DMHR100 rip

[@SuperSaverPlaysSPG]

I am not lonely. I am very much alone. But my life is so much better not having to deal with my ex wife. Having a woman doesn't not solve your loneliness problem. Learn to embrace it. Find a purpose and stay on course

[@wladynoszhighlights5989]

Thats exactly what Redpill should be about, a lot of people focus on their hobbies or building out their business to retire their parents instead of dating

[@apollo-aries]

uhh.. yea ofcourse having a woman doesn't solve your loneliness duh. i mean come on man i don't have any friends like that either but if you depend on a woman "the love of your life" you just become more and more needy and she has to nurture you more.

[@severussin]

I agree but single parent homes are broken which makes a society broken so while I say yes to staying alone and yes to being comfortable with self, humans are social creatures and we are here to build societies. It starts with relationships, extends through family to the wider community. I thought this was common sense.

[@wladynoszhighlights5989]

Eventually I agree, but early Relationships will most likely not make children anyway. Its better to focus on being stable in life first in early adult years @@severussin

[@severussin]

@@wladynoszhighlights5989 I'm not in my 20s and most of my peers have children. Funnily enough they had children in their 20s and didn't have the appropriate parenting/content/society to guide them as per what you've just said. I went a different way and didn't go to Uni for example so no debt for me and I also chose to do what you've just said which is to defer all child rearing until I've set myself up but now I'm here, this is the trash scene I have to deal with... well I'll just enjoy my money then :D

[@MrYEETman9820]

Sneako having a bunch of pictures of people who he disagrees with reminds me of how a middleschooler might draw or tape pictures of classmates they hate in their diary, and it's just impossible to take him seriously.

[@commscan314]

He acts like a fucking middle schooler.

[@thisisutubnottwitterwhyhandles]

"Claiming to have the answers to all the problems, but just making everything worse" The American two-party system in a nutshell.

[@TheDrunkenBard]

“Language has created the word 'loneliness' to express the pain of being alone. And it has created the word 'solitude' to express the glory of being alone." -Paul Tillich

[@Demon_Tiem]

As a boss from a game I once played said. "I am a being of Solitude."

[@wymarsane7305]

​@@Demon_TiemAnd a non-boss from said game: "I am a being of solitude. Cronch, crunch"

[@Mediados]

I love my solitude. But not constantly.

[@MylezNevison]

I think what men are saying by they "feel lonely" is that they feel invisible, uncared for and not understood by society which makes them feel alone in that experience... the loniless is a symptom, NOT the diagnosis.

[@ouwebrood497]

Lot of lonely men would benefit from the realization they could appreciate the solitude. There is a huge societal pressure that you as a human kind of have 'failed' if you are alone and not in a romantic relationship. But this is just a social construct, that you 'ought to be' in a relationship at some point in your life. If you can get rid of that social pressure you are already half way to your salvation. That's a precious lesson I learned from the MGTOW community.

[@arnolenke]

Sort Comments by "Newest First" Totally different to "Top Comments"

[@iseeundeadpeople9]

Yes. The "newest first" crowd are losers. Like you.

[@Lonaticus]

Pfhaha! You're right. Jeez some of those comments.. Makes it even funnier that whoever runs this channel also gives snarky replies to some of them, basically stooping at their level.

[@Meridian453]

“This video is just bashing on men for being men he simply hates men” how to tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video

[@David280GG]

incels are seething lmao

[@daviddawson350]

Im glad someone said this, just because someone is living the life you want doesn't mean they are telling you the truth, it just makes their lie more believable

[@slimebuck]

the most soul crushing thing I have faced as a lonely man (not lonely any more yay!) was that NO ONE CARES. No one would even pretend to care. Everyone I knew would listen to everyone elses complaints, and stories, and problems, but when ever I had one, I was told to stop being a burden on others and sharing my sad life

[@MylezNevison]

That's what the video doesn't address, the truth that society doesn't care about men's issues unless they are benefiting from them... Character is revealed in how you treat the people who can do nothing for you. Our society is devoid of character because of how it treats men who they think they don't need... Until people come to terms with this truth, they will keep pointing the finger at the men because pointing it at themselves is too hard a pill to swallow.

[@petertrueteller8043]

But this is problem of your own family. You cant blame outsiders. Anyway who would like to share his troubles with strangers? It is pretty weak, isnt it?

[@Maarten8867]

@@petertrueteller8043 This is a problem of a society where men are expected to be stoic, and "strong" and showing weakness is frowned upon.

[@severussin]

Don't tell them your problems then. This is probably the most common issue amongst men = wanting the world to GIVE A FUCK. It doesn't and NEVER WILL. YES YOU ARE ALONE, NO ONE WILL SAVE YOU and the only solution is POWER. Gain power and fuck them. Them being everyone who doesn't actively support you. Fuck compassion and fuck their opinions. And never show them weakness or respond to their pleas for vulnerability. That is the only way you gain respect. Humility will leave you open to attack. If you need to talk, speak to a professional and do not expect them to solve your problem but they will allow you to get it off your chest if you really need to. If you have male friends, speak to them where you can be vulnerable and if you have family even better. If you have nothing then go to church and talk to the pastors etc, I am not religious but I know they are oriented to listening rather than ridiculing. But once again DO NOT GIVE STRANGERS THE LUXURY OF WITNESSING YOUR PAIN. THEY DO NOT WANT THE BLOOD SPLATTER FROM YOUR SELF-DELETION RUINING THEIR RUG. That's Life.

[@jimmymaracas6442]

@@MylezNevisonyou couldn’t be more correct brother, thanks for stating it better than I could.

[@Paragon231]

"The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them."

[@yvonnedyer5371]

Clever and true

[@benedictcherlet8583]

Bruh thanks. Long time no see this one. Me so smart now

[@Msk31.]

As a ex andrew tate fan this is very true. I joined his course too and when I thought of leaving it immediately the members started calling me things like loser or you will join the matrix. I still left it and I got 3 emails telling me to rejoin if I wanna be succesful. I was able to see that he was after my money and not me the whole time. Fact is that there sure are succesful people in his course but his promise is for you to get as great as he is which will never happen. There will never be a person who will be as rich as him in his stupid course. Outcluding that you cannot build contact with other people. Its pretty much jail. ANOTHER REALLY INPORTANT THING IS that andrew uses religion for cloud. If you look at the guy there isnt one religious thing about him and his money is the only thing he has thats it. He is pretty much the fakest muslim we have ever seen. While he was muslim he uploaded a video of chilling with girls in bikinis by his pool WHICH CLEARLY ISNT SMH YOU SHOW TO YOUR FANS WHO ARE MAYBE EVEN 13 YEARS OLD. And he brainwashes you you build an automatic mechanism to defend him even if you know what he is doing is wrong

[@Msk31-bm3yr]

didnt know he was a that big dog brother

[@Msk31.]

@@Msk31-bm3yr Oh trust me I bet he as done worse stuff we havent seen yet

[@sheikhtalhah91]

so true, although he claimed he convert to islam, he never followed the teachings of islam

[@Damesanglante]

All Gurus pretend to be religious. It's easy to understand why. Fairy tale believers are generally more gullible than agnostics and atheists. They make the perfect target.

[@thuglaza4728]

@@sheikhtalhah91 Only the couple of things is to his benefit like the rest of the red-pillers.

[@contrerwoo]

Nothing exploits lonely men more than OF

[@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN]

OF was funded by a j*w. Leonid Radvinsky. J*wish. In 2018, he bought a 75% stake in OnlyFans' parent company Fenix International Ltd. from its British founders Tim Stokely and his dad Guy Stokely. After this, OnlyFans became increasingly focused on not safe for work (NSFW) content and "gained a pop culture reputation for being a hive of pornography". Every time.

[@JR-lw3ms]

Except Andrew Tate, who made his money off web cam girls... Double dip - make men pay for web cam girls, then make them pay again for being told that they are losers for paying for web cam girls! The man knows how to grift!

[@fileboy2002]

Probably the greatest insight I got from this video is the fact that people socialized mostly on social media can find it extremally difficult to function in the real world. The norms of social media behavior are horrible. Endless snark and sarcasm, baiting and bullying, crackpot conspiracy theories, etc. If this is all people know, they are definitely going to struggle with real, face-to-face interaction.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

You nailed it. I’d add on to that by including the proliferation of text message communication. There’s entire generations of people who have little to zero experience communicating with people in general let alone romantic interests. They instead communicate with screens.

[@MatXrix]

Unfortunately, I would say it's not the app faults - it's our true nature that comes out. Answer yourself - if there were no consequences and nobody would knew, would you steal 10.000.000$ from someone's bank account? If you answer yes, then you know why our society is as it is - corrupt

[@ClayLud]

But don't people have jobs? Didn't they go to elementary and high school? Play sports? All of the things that every other kid in the world from every other generation had to do? Also, nobody forces young people onto social media. If I had kids, I wouldn't even buy them a phone. Make that kid camp in the forest and teach him to hunt. Basic things every kid I grew up with learned. @@LiveFreeOrDie2A

[@antionephoenix]

If you haven't been married then divorced, have a kid, pay child support, and are a man then none of you can tell me anything. dating apps are just a small part of it.

[@stonic5]

All i see online is people shilling the party line. Anyone on fb, reddit or twit that remotly speaks of any real conspiracy is banned off the platform. Only psyop conspiracy ran by the cia n stuff is allowed on social media now. Us conspiracy theorist have no place left on the internet to speak freely. The net died for us around 2016 just before the Qanon psyop was ran on the american people :(

[@jimmycumbest6877]

As an adult man, it's easy to be angry at everything these days. Despite having a bachelor's degree in business, I've been struggling to find a job for months, and I've been having to work a soul-sucking job paying $13.50/hr just to survive. When I went to therapy for my first and only time, when I told him what I believe gave me anxiety, the therapist told me "I don't see what the big deal is." It would be so easy to have just one or two things that I could blame for all of my problems, and I believe that that is what a lot of these men falling for the manosphere are looking for.

[@bullshitdepartment]

dont get a bachelors in business, simple as tbh.

[@emmersksksksk]

I’m so sorry your therapist told you that! Sounds like they might not be a great fit for you. Your feelings and problems are valid and you deserve a mental health professional who supports you, not undercuts you. Keep your head up king, you’re doing the best you can and I’m proud of you for that :)))

[@shanegrayson7068]

This comment is so ironic because for the same amount of money you spent on the therapist to belittle you, you could've paid for someone in the manosphere to tell you that you are worth something.

[@TheCatherineCC]

@@shanegrayson7068 That's the kind of dark humor shitposting we're here for.

[@nobuneko2005]

@@shanegrayson7068 Teenage and college aged males today are outright evil. I wish nothing but abject suffering upon them. As a female surrounded by red-pilled males it’s done nothing but destroy me psychologically. I accept now that being female makes me just an utter subh*m*n, and nothing will ever fucking change that. We are worthless and don’t deserve love. But most of all, you are all worthless and unworthy of love

[@gaylord2726]

Easy to lead someone astray when nobody gives a fuck about how you feel.

[@thetiredcynic]

That’s the sad reality of men. It’s not usually women who call men out for being a loner or a virgin or whatever. It’s other men. As a result I it’s hard to find camaraderie in shared experiences because they end up ashamed to admit their challenges. What we need to normalize is men appreciating other men working on themselves, figuring out their lives, instead of laughing at them for being inexperienced in order to feel superior because you’re somehow better because you’ve penetrated a vagina. Maybe that thought is too feminine for some guys but to me it’s just common sense.

[@SquarishLink]

exactly, when no one gives a flying fuck about you its really hard to give a fuck about them

[@anthill1510]

If you can`t find friends right now who care about how you feel, than try having some sessions with a therapist. They are great to talk to, they care, and they can help you figure out ways to get more friends.

[@kodjoblacka]

Exactly the root of the cause of all this.

[@JR-lw3ms]

Fix how you feel then!

[@lightinferno4490]

Redpill provides a "why" to questions some men may struggle with their whole lives if they don't come across this information.

[@DiscoFCD]

Yes, but you have to be sceptical. They feed you the good stuff but sometimes stuff in some bad

[@lightinferno4490]

@DiscoFCD That goes with everything. But the message is very important so we should make sure we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater

[@DiscoFCD]

@lightinferno4490 but its more like they mix the bad with the good. Thay way you dont realize you have been coded with the bad

[@lightinferno4490]

@DiscoFCD How so? I think they overvalue materialism, but I think that is media in general. They also highlight unflattering truths about female behaviour, but to me, that is the reason why they are so valuable. They explain what no one else does and it may seem minute, but it's something most men have dealt with but not completely identified until they come across RP content.

[@PhilipTikka]

@@DiscoFCDI”ll take that over 100% ignorance any day

[@FootballRob2010]

This was a terrific video

[@HasturYellowSign]

The red pill was simplified by Undead Chronic: 1. Fitness 2. Social Skills 3. Money 4. Critical Thinking No money required to be spent on idiotic courses

[@obsidianman4990]

This is the part of the red pill that needs to be promoted. Not needing to buy coaching or courses that are full of shit.

[@HasturYellowSign]

@@obsidianman4990 that’s why they’re called pickup roaches. They feed off the pain of others to make money. But most just want a secret technique and not be told to develop themselves.

[@Thepapperman]

The red pill reminds me of forex gurus they sell you courses with 6 to 25 percent nothing more of how the market works forex and red pill I wasted my whole 20s fallowing them I'm a 34 year old single kinda confuse now I've been reading books that's none afialited with social mediabut fix my shit far as forex I'm self teaching now but what I've learned you'll never fix your flaws on social media log off KZbin is social media

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@obsidianman4990 yeah but most people who watch that content take those aspects and they don't buy courses. This is why this assessment he is using is laughable. Also not every point in red pill is agreed but they keep harping on it. Red Pill for anyone who is rational is easily helpful. Case in point showing that single mothers are high risk factors is a redpill talking point - is that true or false? The 35 women thing depending on your morals is either acceptable or trash. In short, let's say you have a christian mindset. You could use the info about single mothers and ignore the 35 women thing. They never look at things with nuance and just paint everyone the same. Their all lonely men, they all hate women - typical low intellectual BS.

[@EmilisTvarijonas]

I agree with Fitness, Social Skills, and Critical Thinking, only except for the Money part. It's very hard to learn just from outdated KZbin videos, AI is constantly being improved every day. You just can't make money with KZbin Gurus. You need people who can tell you the latest information about a business model you choose. That's why TheRealWorld is so Successful

[@philosoaper]

I'm lonely, but apparently I'm not as gullible and stupid as I thought.

[@carlycrays2831]

Yeah, I really. I used to think I sucked but it turns out I'm sort of balanced

[@Mediados]

All it takes is a bit of critical thinking, and you're already better than 50%

[@infamoussnyc3761]

Lonely or alone ?

[@philosoaper]

@@infamoussnyc3761 .. both

[@nuttybar]

Im not lonely bro but I think some of their takes are ok, but others are ludicrous

[@Moken_lan]

Great video mate , great analysis of this whole thing , Keep it up

[@DoritosBurger]

The problem with the Tate brothers is they make even successful people feel like failures or worthless. "If you’re not rich like me you’re pathetic" "You need to do more" The truth is no you don’t. You don’t need to do anything. If working towards becoming rich gives your life meaning and makes you happy then by all means go for it, but if you don’t succeed you shouldn’t feel like you failed because it’s a dangerous way of thinking. Putting yourself down to the point where you feel like you have no value is NEVER a good thing. Even if you have no money at all you still matter, you’re still a living breathing human that has a brain, can think and feel things, isn’t that amazing in itself? Don’t allow these people to dictate how you’re going to live your life, true freedom is having the choice to do whatever you want and be whatever you want, even if someone else may see that as inadequate or as "failure". Just do you.

[@lucacrespi88]

The positive thing is, no successful people is watching the Tate brothers and taking their advice.

[@gareth19771]

Oldest trick in the book. It comes down to despicable people selling a product based on a person's desires and insecurities. It's the influencers getting rich and attracting gold-diggers, not their lonely followers.

[@Flypowerish]

But now the me is not enough. I go to the gym, I have a job, I eat well. I even study to learn more about nutrition. But man, what else? I asked friends out, but eventually no one really cares.

[@TammoKorsai]

I'm seriously inept at dating and lonely because of it, so I could have fallen into this manosphere trap if it wasn't for a good upbringing that gave me the skills to regard such things with scepticism rather than as a shortcut to success.

[@ectothermic]

Imagine if a whole generation hadn't just shat out children and then blamed them for all the problems they themselves caused while ruining the entirety of the world singlehandedly only for that following generation to treat their kids just as badly as they were treated if not worse.

[@t700e]

@@ectothermicEvery generation does this, and every subsequent generation “recognizes” this but goes on to do the same. Just like what the vid said, it’s easier to blame outside forces rather than look at our own lives and try to improve our situation. Don’t fall into that same trap.

[@LifeofBrad1]

Being a sceptic is the best thing you can be in today's world, but it's also the most isolating because most people live in echo chambers these days and I find it hard to hold a conversation with them due to this. Everything has been turned into an us vs them culture war issue. Most people don't have a nuanced view of the world at all. They spend way too much time on social media and reading the news and see everything in black and white as a result.

[@TheKalimanMX]

seems like you had both parents in your household to protect you, too bad more and more youth are being raised in broken families now.

[@jsgdk]

There are no shortcuts, there are strategies and resources though. Alot of guys are stumbling in the dark and are an easy mark for scam artists.

[@armaansyal]

As a lonely man, I don't know how these people are made as attractive and as a 'saviour'. Not one person like this can bring you out of loneliness with a movement as the 'red pill.'

[@baddiegaming758]

I feel piss off for a lot of lonely man in my age start worshipping fake guru

[@ryuno2097]

@@baddiegaming758 these fake gurus are the modern age version of religious cult leaders back in 60s/70s/80s/90s

[@Random_user-sz7nk]

You're not alone brother. These dudes are poison

[@xFODDERx]

I think it's that men are told if you are not a success then you're a failure, people like tate prey on this vulnerability especially in a digital age where our 24/7 is viewable to everyone. It's also why so many women go on OF.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

especially since there is access to many legit champion men with decades of experience in their fields. Joe Rogan, Huberman and many others linked to these 2 operate from the Modus operandi of hoping to bring real and helpful information to the masses for free.

[@Pixiwish]

What an awesome video! I love how mentioned getting friends, because I understand how lonely men are, but as a woman I also see how that can be a lot to put on me. I don't want to be a solution to your problem and the expectation of me is that I cure your loneliness and that I am ALL of your social life. I'm living a good life with friends and pursuing goals I want the same in a partner. I do also see that as a big downside to Red Pill ideology as well they focus a lot on "traditional" gender roles, but that just isn't how society works. The average woman isn't looking to just stay home and the average man can't afford to support a family on a single income. What women are looking for now is a partner in finance, domestic work and all other aspects of life.

[@juanpablosaenz9037]

I think that your concept of the red pill is deeply flawed, especially if you consider Andrew Tate as a Red Piller, when he's in fact as Blue Pilled as it gets. The Manosphere is a diverse place with a bunch of men from different backgrounds expressing their opinions on the subject of masculinity...these opinions can be contradictory...If you wanted to critize Andrew Tate views you are welcome to do it...I don't agree with many of his ideas and views either...I don't think that paying him any money will improve my life overnight...but there's gullible people that might believe so... that's nothing new...gurus and cults as well as self appointed motivators have been around since always. Your mistake is considsreing Tate a Red Pill King or leader...red pilling is basically to observe, study and react to women... abandon any false ideas about relationships and take rational decisions regarding your relationships with the women around you depending on your environment, your income and your social skills. You may choose to become a Pick Up Artist or a player using your knowledge of women to manipulate them into sex or you can go the opposite way and go MGTOW and become celibate by choice...or you can agree with Jordan Peterson or Matt Walsh and seek the tradional way to meet a woman and marry her for life. All these ideas are part of the Manosphere. Andrew Tate plays with all these ideas and mixed them up...in one video he urges you to become an Alpha and become wealthy and sleep with models...in the next he's a conservative Muslim saying that you need to marry a virgin girl and then he tells you that if you live in the West you shouldn't get involved with women...for this reason I stopped paying attention to him...he doesn't know where to fit his narrative...

[@blujaebird]

I have advice for anyone who is susceptible to these types of people: STOP RELYING ON STRANGERS SIPHONING MONEY FROM YOU TO BE THE DAD YOU NEVER HAD. You're not useless, you're not ugly. Learn introspection about things you can change to improve your life. Eat healthy, exercise regularly, and clean your living space. Get a dog, or just a pet. *And do not take your own self hatred out on others.* I sincerely mean this. Edit: I'm adding on another thing. Learn to cook. It's a good skill to have, you'll likely eat healthier because you know what you're eating, and it's an attractive trait! Food is a love language. There. Just saved y'all thousands of dollars. It's like the male equivalent of the self help crap middle aged women buy into. I knew someone who "self-deleted" despite following these kinds of people because he never got psychological help for his severe violent streak. But he would also complain about being lonely yet reject any woman who was interested. It was strange.

[@aakashsingh1368]

Very well said

[@lukedeshnuke7311]

I would also add "Join a club" .. there are so many interesting hobbies out there and people that share the same interests as you and clubs are a great way of socializing with them and finding new friends.

[@stephanreiken9912]

Yea but you are telling this to people who've been taught that self hatred by the blue pill.

[@ZGGuesswho]

yeah, join rec league sports if you can, if you're not athletic join easier sports. it also provides navigable gym goals. much cheaper than these grifters and you will meet cool folks and will meet girls, just don't be fuckin weird.

[@blujaebird]

​@pyropulseIXXIAndrew Tate does say those things. If he said /just those things/ it would be fine. It's all the other things he says and does that are the issue. Building yourself on the hatred of women is pathetic.

[@serieee123]

You know what's crazy? That most of these lonely men,which I used to be, think that getting a girlfriend will solve their issues,mental or otherwise.Spoiler alert, it doesn't.I got a gf , the situation is more or less the same...

[@Alex-ms9em]

It’s really crazy how people think that. You can’t find happiness in someone, yes a person can add to your happiness for sure! But you have to find true happiness within yourself. I’ve seen so many of my guy friends believe this trope that if they only get a gf then they’ll be happy and “valid” as a male. It really makes me sad.

[@IAMHERE486]

@@rudeegruenberg9184It’s true that another person can’t truly make you happy.

[@legionrip7484]

In my experience, the only way to solve those mental issues is to seek to improve oneself, obviously there are things you cant change like your appearance and height, but I've found in my relationships, that when I have gone out my way to either work on self improvement, my relationships with women would gradually improve with my self improvement too. Too often people neglect the self improvement and blame other people for it

[@chalk1415]

Honestly, it's friendship. Find yourself 3 good mates who you can share your problems with and will give you sympathy and feedback to help you improve. One day my mate randomly showed up to my house with a guitar and amp, showed me the basics for an hour and left. Never knew how important that was at the time but it set me on a path I still follow and it gave me a purpose to live. I now hope one day I can't create timeless masterpieces to inspire people like I was inspired by many bands I've listened to.

[@bobbycrosby9765]

I was going down a lonely spiral in my mid 20s. Getting a girlfriend did help. Emphasis on the friend though. We get along awesomely and we could sit and talk for hours at a time. I could talk to her about anything, more than even my good friends that I knew for much longer. Now we're married and have 3 kids.

[@davidhendersonii221]

The one thing I hate about Redpill criticism is that it's never followed up with a solution. Nor does it confront any of of the issues that the Redpill addresses.

[@dailydrivennostalgia5316]

Brother your problems are the result of capitalist alienation.

[@sontodosnarcos]

So true!

[@86twin]

It makes more money to criticize a problem than to solve it.

[@skorpion7132]

I think that is because the solution (if you call it that) is that Red Pill, for my taste, has swung into the extreme side of the polar opposite, and thus you have to moderate what is being said/claimed. I mean, they aren't per se wrong in what they say, they do correctly identify a bunch of problems its just that their solution goes too far into an extreme which creates all new problems on its own. I guess that is why critical thinking should be highlighted much more than it does AND be elevated to arc over both sides.

[@urisevenson973]

Although it's not a perfect solution, finding a better community or group of friends who genuinely want what's best for you and don't sell a toxic narrative. If you don't have that, go to therapy and figure out the root of your issues. Many redpillers tend to have issues with fear of abandonment, rejection, and women. So going in depth into healing those issues would help them in the long term.

[@Matsumoto77]

I wasnt a red pill follower but I live in the circumstances that would drive anyone else that way, i was kind of lonely and lost unlike my brother, I think Im gonna talk to him some, see if he can help break me out of my shell and get out there

[@cloakx3640]

Good luck!

[@mikeforeal3216]

It’s so much easier to blame something other than myself…it’s what I’m dealing with now. Getting off fentanyl on day 28. Learning how to talk to people again, I’m learning how to talk to my FAMILY again. This frame of thought has destroyed me. But I’m tryin to do something about it💯

[@OrgaNik_Music]

Best of luck. It'll get better.

[@tabby73]

That's awesome! All the best!

[@KiraTV1]

Good luck dude, fight the good fight and ask for help when you need it, people do care and you are not weak for doing so

[@shadeitplease7383]

@mikeforreal3216 hey man I just want to say I was addicted to heroin and meth for 12 years. I’m a few years sober now but do still smoke weed. It does get easier man I promise. Just hang in there

[@iandevine3063]

One day at a time :)

[@bunsenn5064]

It’s almost poetic how people like Tate talk about “escaping the matrix” and then create a matrix of their own to trap people and milk them of their money.

[@lunam33]

Hes an agent of deception and completed his mission the younger generation bought into his message, many of them will never know whats its like to have a healthy relationship, will never have children, will never have a family, and many women are checking out completely because they are not willing to tolerate these abusers, at this rate we will go back to nature, where most men never had access to woman to begin with. They did it to themselves. Women offered them an egalitarian option and they rejected it, this is the consequences.

[@Jeed92]

He didnt get 1 euro from me, but I support 80% of what he says. And of that 80% that I agree with, theres almost nothing which is not common sense. People love him or hate him, I dont know why, hes just another human why would I love or hate him. He says weird stuff to polarize but he also says very normal stuff which is portrayed as if its some sort of maniac or delusional thing to say. Ill give one example: "Men today are weak and become like women". Many feminine Men will say no its not true, to naturally defend their own egos. its a perfectly normal defense mechanism. But that also means that Tate has instantly more enemies than friends, because weak men cannot accept that they are weak, else they would try to get strong and not belief in delusional crap like men are equal to women in strengh and capability. Its simply not true, but that at least 80% of people seem to understand. The number gets lower every day though.

[@arete7884]

Most of his fans dont realize he didnt get there by buying courses from someone like him but by selling courses to suckers, also his view on masculinity and what a man should be is no universal or meant as life path for other man, hes telling others how to live who dont know how to choose to be their own men. Also the muslim religion grift is hilarious hes definitely the opposite of religious life.

[@nixen3141]

​@@Jeed92Are we talking about the guy who was accused of human trafficking? I'd love to know what "weak" means. be poor? be disabled? be emotionally sensitive? Have social consciousness? It doesn't surprise me that the majority of those who follow are far-right or alt-right with that type of thinking. It's also curious when they say it's not mis0gynous, but it treats being "feminine" in a negative way as if it were a crime or a sin.

[@GenericMedusa99]

I mean i do support most of what tate says 😅 but i dont spend money on him maybe by spare time but i think thats okay

[@johndeascentis3513]

Men are upset because they are unable to blame themselves? Not one word in this video about women's abuse of the slanted family court system in this country.

[@anthill1510]

Dear god, this talking point! Get a prenup if you are so worried about that. I am pretty sure it`s not the family court system that is keeping the Incels from finding a girlfriend.

[@user-sr2tb8nx9n]

It is straight up predatory

[@LalaDepala_00]

The amount of virgin American men who are worried about divorce honestly blows my mind.

[@Alakaz4m-gh9mv]

@@LalaDepala_00 The amount of rabid internet feminists that defends the unfair divorce system is scary, too.

[@aubrey2354]

No valid argument has been made here. you are raising points then contradicting them. Think about it: you said red pill teach fitness and financial gain, then said those are some of the reasons men struggle then said advising men to do that is not helping them (as in advising people to fix the problem they have is not helping them) and for that reason red pill are telling lies? that makes no sense. ?Then you said red pill teaches people to blame others instead of themselves, yet you also said red pill teaches people to get more fit and make more money (which sounds to me like that's accountability) but at the same time you are saying that very advise is not helpful because most people are not in the 3%, THATS EXACTLY WHY THEY ARE BEING ADVISED TO DO SO! because there only 3%. the other argument you made is about women sharing a man if his considered high value. you say that's not how adult relationships work. that makes no sense, because you said most men don't meet the income requirement due to how society has changed which means only a few men meet the requirements. as in only a few men are considered by women that's why men are lonely but the same few are not being shared by women? how can it be that most men are lonely because their income doesn't match up but at the same time the ones who do, don't get many women (as in the women are not sharing the man)? which is it? it can't be both truth, because unless court cases are lies child support cases continue to mount so women are definitely choosing one of the two, and it can't be the lonely men... as for the other points you raised, yes there obviously some issues with the red pill movement like they are with any movement that has ever existed, but to say they are lies or exploiting lonely men is to imply the benefits to the men are not that significant which is the REAL LIE. because to be fit, eat healthy, get rich etc etc requires discipline, you cannot say teaching discipline cannot fix any of the real issues men face. Now your the one exploiting the youtube audience for views.

[@HerrMau]

One of the best coverages I have seen handling this topic. Very objective & neutral, without shaming & blaming and all facts straight. Illuminating the root cause instead of just the symptons. Keep up the great work, your video will be shared!

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

Does the film name the 👃behind this issue? I have not watched it yet so a reply would be appreciated🙏

[@KiraTV1]

Thanks!

[@raygorf735]

It's incorrect that the red pill was a metaphor for transgender identity. That's just woke reinvention by one of the directors of the Matrix. The red pill is seeing life in all its harsh raw truth. In our real world that is the black pill. Incels misappropriated the term black pill but black pill is accepting life is mostly a scam, humans are exploitative, capitalism is corrupt etc.

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

@@KiraTV1 Based. Love it....

[@shanegrayson7068]

This was anything BUT objective and neutral.

[@Thandi123]

It just struck me, Tate based his entire aesthetic on Kane from Command and Conquer. His whole persona is literally RPing a videogame bad guy.

[@MegaToonzNetwork]

You my friend...ARE THANDIPILLED!!!

[@thelastgeneration1926]

interesting

[@MultiSciGeek]

I'm pretty sure Tate is a big troll. There's probably a lot more of that that he doesn't let on.

[@unicornsandkeytars7272]

Kane lives in death

[@uliluu5885]

Red pill : You need to cheat on your girlfriend Red pill : why so many men are lonely? Don’t have sex ?

[@KiraTV1]

It isn't cheating in their mind because as a high value man, you are so amazing that you should be allowed to have as many women as you want. That's the level of brain rot these idiots are on.

[@LadiboiJoy]

Nah that's something of a person nal option and opinions....I thought red pill meant men not being held hostage in marriage by typical western arrogant belligerent bitter combative delusional entitled manipulative feminist types.....that divorce men for cash and use court system as a weapon to destroy their peace .. future..seems like men don't want the drama of relationships marriage and prefer to live alone in peace quiet..like a monk focusing on health wealth..I think red pill is response to feminism.and I think it's a state of mind.like any group there may be a few crazy..but not like the feminist movement

[@LadiboiJoy]

Not so sure....

[@Aryaba]

High-value men CAN cheat and women can't do anything about it. In FACT, women NATURALLY create Harems due to hypergamy. (The top 5-10% of men are having sex/"situationships" with 40-60% of the available women). These men don't need to compete as most of the women seek them out. Also your understanding of redpill is 100% wrong. It is a praxeology; a description of what is, based on REALITY, not a PRESCRIPTION. But you're probably not smart enough to understand this distinction.

[@Aryaba]

@@KiraTV1 You evaluation is low IQ. But you don't have the tools to do better.

[@adrianredzik3413]

You mixed grifters, blackpill and redpill and called it manosphere. You picked the worst of the worst to represent it.

[@leonleeds534]

It is genuinely scarey when your 10 year old has friends that support and quote Andrew Tate. No idea if its them seeing his content or if it comes siblings or parent, either way its worrying and needs proper awareness or society is incubating a fairly extreme group. From what ive seen on Incel culture that fits in the same category.

[@keccakec]

A huge problem bringing kids in particular in is that the algorithm pushes this content heavily on every platform I've seen it on. You can test this pretty easily. On a fresh KZbin account clicking only recommended stuff from a random vlog it does not take long to get your homepage full of damaging shit.

[@phillyd2018]

how could they want to improve upon themselves! we can't have this!

[@mpo48]

if you don't help people extreme groups will help them instead, this is your fault for not helping anyone

[@DistinctiveBlend]

@@mpo48 help? I think you mean use

[@bobbythorton7693]

What is more scary, the people like you hanging around 10 year olds, and also people pushing kids to do a sex change. I'm no andrew tate fans but he is least of our problems compared to wokes or leftist.

[@Eisfalken]

Let an old Gen Xer shed some light on this whole thing: this isn't new, not at all. It's the newest form of the decades-old self-help scam. Back in the 90s, it was the "get rich quick" scam. Then in the early 2000's, it was pick-up artists and house-flipping. And through all of it was the conspiracy theorists, who went from being regarding as crazy fringe cultist types to mainstream media figures in shockingly short order. See, that's the admirable part of what Tate has done here: he managed to find a way to pour all this mush-brained stuff into a blender, hit the highest speed button, and pour out this sludge of ideology and fantasy into a mold that (to the shock of none of us older guys) looks surprisingly like him. But any of us who looked closely at him knew he was a fraud from the start. I mean, the guy bought all those Bugatti's, guys, literally one of the worst cars on the globe in terms of repair/maintenance, the kind of car a complete idiot flush with new money buys because he doesn't know better. He talks trash about US and UK government, then ran straight to a country that is almost as bad as Russia or Italy for government corruption (not to mention organized crime). Like, I get it, a person should be skeptical about a lot of things, but holy cow this guy just makes bad decision after bad decision, and has the brass to actually tell people he can make them successful if they just listen to his "advice". Here, let me give all you men the better part of the advice Tate makes you pay for; I'll even give it for free. Eat healthier, not just fad diets. Get regular exercise. Be very stingy with your money in terms of spending it on frivolous things/people. Don't trust strangers claiming to act in your personal interests (yes, even and especially people like Andrew Tate). Keep honest people in your orbit; this may end up being very few people, but dishonest people inevitably become trouble for you. Treat folks with respect until they prove disrespectful. Bonus points because this advice actually helps both men AND women in life. As for the rest of Tate's demagoguery? It's just the same trash you can get for free listening to the radio or a podcast or whatever. The irony being that simply by monetizing his drivel, Tate is literally the exact same "enemy" he claims to oppose. He just says different stuff to make different people give him their wealth so he can tell them how bad everyone other than him is. Before the term "redpill", us Gen Xers had a similar saying about "don't drink the Kool-Aid". It applies here as much as it did when Jim Jones had that special party down in Jonestown...

[@TheChrisLeone]

Not new, just different and worse. The only reason I say it is worse now is because of the availability of this content, this is a very new phenomenon to be able to access media the way we do

[@Cander617]

Triggered much "gen xer" no gen xer ive ever met wrote such a long post of triggered bs trying to hate on someone. They just dont care cuz they got their own shit going on so whether u r or aren't go write something important and get off utube comments

[@CyclistChris]

You've done it now. His army of losers will be coming in spouting their top g bullshit and asking what colour is your Bugatti... They won't read your very sound advice, or take accountability for them being losers.

[@Cander617]

@@CyclistChris im saying nothing about no top g im not a little kid but I rather the kids listen to him then the crazy left's bs Given my choice Id rather them listen to Jordan Peterson, but the machine is going after him and I cant stand to see these attacks same with Russell Brand these attacks are them trying to bring opposing voices down and we need opposing voices

[@Wastingsometimehere]

I know what you mean. "Here we go again" and all that. These sharks feed off emotions like the old sharks fed off greed. It's all about exploiting desperation for personal gain.

[@benjaminchartier6458]

One of the problems is that men and women both put on their significant other the burden of making them happy. Both men and women need to see the other are simply human beings,who have problems which they need the grace of God to deal with

[@flameplasmainian85724]

You nailed that one so hard the wood snapped. Good view

[@vitalis]

Word

[@infernoferocious7029]

Seeing the amount of so called alpha males and redpill fanboys just seething and sulking in the comments is like watching a fireworks show and feels like I'm drinking their tears

[@Maverick2k]

Thank god someone finally makes a video about a ridiculously serious subject but nobody cares about. Dating apps are a prime example, absolutely extorting lonely men, for example having to pay £20 a week to see who ‘likes’ you or to put you in front of more potential matches 😂

[@AFineWar]

Is this a joke? There's hundreds of videos on this.

[@godzillapoggers9416]

Making videos about these things are just as profitable lmao

[@TaintedStaff]

@@godzillapoggers9416 Hows that copium? No way you just compared a industry to individual youtubers lmao

[@Maverick2k]

@@AFineWar okay that might be true but I haven’t seen a SINGLE ONE since I started using KZbin in like 2008. I don’t actively search for “dating apps exploiting lonely men” in KZbin, you know?

[@Maverick2k]

@@godzillapoggers9416 what are you on about? With these videos there’s two winners; the viewer and the content creator. We get entertainment and factual information, they get paid. Not sure how you’ve managed to compare exploitative industries with content creators but you do you.

[@captainsergeant]

As I've got older the trend I noticed along the way is regardless of the generation, good luck getting people out of their house for any type of get together, party, or what have you. It is as if people flip a switch in their brain at some point and just start acting.. old.. or withdrawn. My wife and I just strike out on our own most of the time, as arranging any type of social event has turned into an exercise of herding cats.

[@LifeofBrad1]

I know the feeling. I reconnected with an old friend and really wanted to meet up with him again, but all he did was make excuses to not meet up. I had a feeling this was going to happen before I decided to reach out to him because, like you said, it's what most people are like nowadays when you try to arrange to meet up with them, but it still annoyed me. I just want things to be like the old days when I had a decent sized friend group and we all met up (I say old days, but I'm only talking like 8 years ago here). Sometimes I used to bring different friends along with me that'd never met each other before, they'd get talking and then they'd become friends with each other. I miss those days. I honestly feel like part of the reason why people are so unwilling to meet up these days is because they're scared of getting into political arguments. Generally speaking, people weren't as political 8 years ago as they are today, so there wasn't as much tension when meeting new people. Identity politics have really divided people.

[@CosplayZine]

People are starting to choose technology over people and actually experiencing things. They can justify this because they have things like facebook where they can scroll the timeline by themselves and pretend they're being social.

[@alanheavey]

True. I am part of the problem. Don't reply, like. Just think

[@laoch5658]

having a get together is going to cost you a few hundred quid, everything is overpriced and unsatisfying

[@captainsergeant]

@@LifeofBrad1 The political observation is a fact. I've had good friends go hard left and hard right, and if you do not tow the line in your actions or speech, you offend them and things just go down the tubes. It reminds me of being around very, very religious people - you have to watch every word and action lest you offend them (which is very easy to do).

[@resonantchime8458]

Hmmm. I'm really interested in figuring out whats different from the red pill and only fans. You say red pill preys on lonely men. What does OF do then, not prey on lonely men?

[@siaj92]

Both redpill and OF prey on lonely men, but providing paid jackoff material is less harmful than providing toxic "advice" that makes the lifes of the customers as well as the society as a whole worse and benefitting from it

[@RoofusRoof19]

The best way to treat the red pill is to take the good things at face value and apply them to your life. Sort of like if a fish ate the bait off the hook without getting hooked in.

[@muratbayraktar5035]

Yep

[@elijahwilliams7791]

The few times Kira uses "disenfranchised", he means "disillusioned", very important distinction when discussing this topic.

[@seamusgreenmurphy]

Wait actually curious now what is the difference? Are they not basically interchangeable? I do the same thing, help 😅

[@cannack]

@@seamusgreenmurphy don't you love the English language? Their, there, They`re.... lol disenfranchised = to deprive ones legal right to vote, to have a say, to make a stand, generally speaking but people use it differently. disillusioned = unhappy because of discovering the truth about something or someone that you liked or respected, AKA. ``debunked``

[@seamusgreenmurphy]

@@cannack hehehe I think I'm one of the few who does love the English language but I'm a linguistic nerd so I enjoy the little nuances. I appreciate you explaining this friend, I'll be more cognizant of how I use them going forward. Doubt anybody around me has noticed tho

[@beybladebaby]

Nah he talking about McDonald's

[@mrosskne]

@@seamusgreenmurphy If you're actually curious, why don't you look up the definitions?

[@seidious8798]

Men can be handsome and still lonely. Men can be confident and still lonely. Men can be social and still lonely. It Is a problem in our society so stop reducing the gravity of what’s being said, especially if you can’t even sympathize. Sure you can change your own life with just a lil effort but that doesn’t mean that this is not a real issue. A man can stop doing drugs but that doesn’t mean it’s not an issue he’ll struggle w. So if you’ve “never had an issue w women but”, “I was born in, but”, “I don’t understand why”, just delete the comment, very ignorant and you’re likely helping no one. This is a much deeper problem societally and personally for many people… I mean there is statistics in the video for a reason.

[@crystalracing4794]

Interesting he never replied to this. This comment is on cue

[@fuzzypanda1684]

This. So many of these videos, and the general consensus, says that if a guy just puts in the work to become physically attractive, confident, charismatic, and social, he'll get results! But I'm living proof that that is absolutely not true. I was the guy who was lacking all of those, but decided to do something about it. After many years, I'm the poster boy for a guy who went from a skinny, insecure, beta male to a guy who's jacked, confident and outgoing...yet I still get nothing but rejection. At least before I knew WHY I was getting rejected. Now it's like...I did everything I was supposed to and then some. WTF is going on?

[@josepmariasebastian8886]

@@fuzzypanda1684 Do not seek approval from others. Be jacked, confident and outgoing for yourself, because it's who you're comfortable as, not to decrease the chances of rejection.

[@jones2277]

the reality is everyone can be lonely. yes, even women. the difference is women usually try to find solutions or seek help. most men are too ashamed to seek help, or they turn toward destructive means.

[@fuzzypanda1684]

@@jones2277 You're not wrong, because yes, anyone can feel lonely. But I disagree that women try to find solutions, whereas men don't. For some that's the case, but for many women, solving loneliness is as simple as opening Tinder and replying to any of the hundreds of messages in her inbox, or dressing up and going to the bar, waiting until she gets approached by a guy she likes. But for guys, when we feel lonely, we open our Tinder to see no new matches, no messages, and no replies. Then we dress up and go to the bar, walk around and talk to girls we're attracted to, only to get no real interest, then inevitably leave and go home alone once the bar closes for the 44th unsuccessful night in a row. Same condition, but wildly different levels of torment between the two sexes.

[@bookofeli4640]

The one good thing i can see coming from the red pill is that man is not falling for the scam. That's marriage here in the USA.

[@cedriclapointe5869]

You're wrong on almost all your arguments. These "Self help gurus" turned my life around 180 degrees. My life was going to shit until I started listening to their advice. My life is now better in every realm of human endeavor.

[@JR-lw3ms]

Is it though?

[@Vividstar]

@@JR-lw3ms yes, self help can actually help if done with the right one. look up ralph smart he helps ppl daily and does actually help and guess what it's free information he shares. same with christine lopez and aaron doughty and many more. there is REAL! ppl out there who can and want to help. not everyone is trash

[@yyeezyy630]

I uesta work at McDonald’s with this guy who was extremely nice, possibly had mental issues but he loved Andrew tate. He became a close with friend and was amazed by how muscular I was and thought it was awesome that I wrestled. I walk with a limp due to a injury I got in the military and he thought that was so bada** that he started copying my limp. Poor guy never had a strong male figure in his life and unfortunately I filled that role. Guess I’m better then Tate tho

[@bzipoli]

i also think thats part of the problem. not all of it, but it helps

[@fuzzypanda1684]

Anyone is better than Tate, and I mean no disrespect to you in saying that.

[@yyeezyy630]

@@fuzzypanda1684 yeah, tates human trash.

[@tribesvanguard7007]

NEVER FORGET. ANYONE WHO SELLS HOPE ISNT YOUR FRIEND OR A GOOD PERSON.

[@pete5819]

This whole video is really just gaslighting all men, saying that our opinions aren't valid & what we've been told is wrong.

[@JR-lw3ms]

Did this video hit a nerve?

[@emanuelandrade2779]

You can talk whatever abt the RP, but books like "The Rational Male" helped me to understand the world we leave in and how do women behave and what women expect from a men. I wish I had access to contect like that when I was 15, it would help me to make betters decisions, but I can't denie there are a lot of toxic content to exploit the lonely men! The RP helped me to be a better man gave me guidance and a clear vision of the dating market. The RP does not teach you to hate women, on the contrary, it helps you to improve as a man to have access to better women. I blame the messenger not the message!

[@mattmattmatt131313]

"Men and women are better together than we are apart." a constantly repeated quote by one of the supposed women-hating misogynistic evil manosphere thinkers.🙄

[@andreaberg1735]

„Access“ to Women? Your choice of words already shows your mindset about women „How women behave“. Is there just one type of women? You clearly live in a bubble and choose to see what you want to see

[@Skadongle]

The redpill movement treats women like prizes to be won and objects with no personality. They preach a lot of good when it comes to male self improvement but fall very short when talking about women.

[@BlackNeph]

I was surprised when you didn't mention the VTuber industry. Some of the biggest spenders in the industry has becoming so obsessive to the point where they take an offend whenether their favorite streamers collabed/interacted with the opposite gender outside of their chats.

[@fedyx1544]

VTuber industry is its own thing though, and it's an offshoot of asian idol culture. The crazy fans are common in the idol business regardless of gender, it's not something related to "redpill" or "manosphere" bullcrap, but rather to parasocial relationship in general.

[@stephanreiken9912]

That's idol culture, the vtuber industry just imported idol culture into it.

[@fedyx1544]

@@spinlock1785 they are not related because it's not only targeting men. Yeah most vtuber fans happen to be men but unlike the manosphere there are also plenty of vtubers and idols who try to cater to women.

[@ncs9753]

That's just parasocial relationship. Everyone spending money on youtube or twitch or whatever streamer is the same, basically got exploited for money when they don't even need to spend those money. If you ask me, someone spending 50 bucks simping on vtuber or twitch thots is only about as dumb as someone spending 50 bucks on pewdiepie or video game streamers. The more you spent the worse you are really, doesn't matter who you give the money to. Like why are you giving money to strangers... unless you're already filthy rich and successful yourself and see that as dirt cheap donation, but it seems to me that it's mostly young people who haven't even establish themselves. The real successful people are the people who are the ones who make streaming into a living because there are so many of these gullible viewers...

[@grahamstrouse1165]

@@stephanreiken9912Exactly. Parasocial relationships have been problematic since the beginning of mainstream broadcast media. The Internet made it a lot worse, or course, but deranged fans are nothing new. Back in the late ‘80s actress Rebecca Schaefer was killed in her home by an obsessed fan. President Ronald Reagan was shot & nearly killed by John Hinkley, a seriously deranged young man who was trying to impress Jodie Foster. (Turned out she wasn’t even into dudes!)

[@ShopFloorMonkey]

I had a degree of trepidation going into this video, but you navigated it very well. I'm really pleased that you did not simply dismiss male suffering, and note that it's not a new thing. A lot of men are, indeed, 'lost'. But there are precious few voices speaking in support of men in pain - mentally and emotionally. And they need a voice to cling to. The problem is, who else besides the 'Manosphere' is speaking for, or to, them? Edit : I made this comment halfway through the vid!

[@KiraTV1]

Part of the issue is that people are drawn into things by the low hanging fruit. Would men listen to a 5 foot 8, slightly chubby dude who has mostly liberal views and isn't super rich even if what he says is actual great life advice? Not likely. People follow the red pill because the draw is so easy. Hot women, fast cars, expensive watches, boats, mansions, combat sports. It appeals to the base desires and is an easy, quick sell. I think there are plenty of people who would be willing to actually speak to these men, but would they listen without the bells and whistles that sell the message?

[@ShopFloorMonkey]

@@KiraTV1 Very reasonable, and well reasoned, points. I think another problem is the stigma. There are people who have tried to give talks specifically for men, thereby setting themselves up to be healthy voices worthy of being heard, but they are shut down by the ideologues. Both sides have them, misogynists and misandrists if we stick to gender lines, and as you point out it only takes a few loud and driven people (for whatever reason) to kybosh things. I would like to think there are plenty of people who would be willing to speak. The question is how many of them are willing to put up with the 'slings and arrows' that come with it from the hate-filled extremists? Anyway, keep up the great work man! 😉👍

[@efab2076]

Maybe the reality is the guy with the liberal view isn't dealing with mens issues but speaking to them and giving them solutions he would give women. But men aren't women. Several studies show men tend to lean more conservative, are more individualistic, and tend to be more action-based For example I play in a football team, so many guys have personal issues, but the way we tend to release tension is play a football match, talk about the game and afterwards we feel much better. That then leads to us talking about those personal issues. Same with guys I know that go to the gym. We also give each other solutions, criticise each other when we're being idiots and can be quite blunt. But as a society we are over focused on emotions feelings and talking...which are all good, but is that better for men or women. When you study the history of therapy, Freud created the talking therapy to cater to women but we men are told me just need to be more emotional, talk more...in the meantime we want to dismiss the ugly truth that maybe men need outlets to be themselves. I don't like Andrew Tate, but men need masculine figures, not all men but a lot of young men do. I see a gradual erosion of those ideals in society. I also see a lot of people who complain about young men, complain about Andrew tate, but dismiss male issues, and the ones that don't, have no idea how to connect with men or don't want to admit what men are. We are different to women that's just biology. Yes, we are similar in a lot of ways, but the differences matter. Hate Andrew tate, but when he says society dosn't care about your feelings, men understand that, when he says go to the gym, get rich and women will like you, men understand that. Again I don't like Andrew tate but there's so much he says that resonates with men, and if given a choice between the liberal guy telling them to be themselves and be more emotional or tate saying stop crying because no one cares...reality hits hard.@@KiraTV1

[@KiraTV1]

For sure, I 100% agree with that and I've seen even people I'd consider to be impeccably ethical and rational have the same issue just because people won't engage with what they're actually saying and it's seen as inherently toxic or "problematic" to speak to men as a whole. It cuts both ways and that's just how it will remain. Anyone who gets in the way of those sides is usually in for a bad time.

[@FranNyan]

The voices of those who are trying to speak to those men are drowned out by louder voices who have things to gain, and those who blindly follow a toxic mindset of what men should and should not be. There is someone willing to be a friend for almost any man, but said men need to be able to see those people and not be blinded by the louder, flashy snake oil salesmen (and well meaning idiots) who promise them an easy way to get what they want without the scary side that is actually connecting with other human beings. Right now, society is deeply fractured and it's hard to find people out in the "real" world to get to know. Almost everybody's hurting and no one wants to let anyone else know out of fear of judgement and more hurt. Everyone shows their best sides and builds an illusion for others to see, leading to a functional arms race that leads to everyone feeling worthless because they can't help but compare themselves to these illusions that they see around them. There are no easy answers. There are no quick fixes. There is not a single person or group that you can find that will help someone figure out how to live in this chaos we call life, but cult leads and grifters will always tell people there are.

[@ayoman7021]

The red pill was actually a positive force for men when it first started, it encouraged self improvement and it was mostly on blogs we would read articles and pdf books. It focused on working out, going out to find the right woman and building a family and overall becoming a better man in society. But now it's just another way for these scammers to make money.

[@Oak__]

You're conflating "red pill" with grifting pick up artists. Sandman, Better Bachelor, and Paul Elam all provide decent "red pill" content without the grifting or pua course selling.

[@JR-lw3ms]

LOL 🤡

[@antman8845]

I have two young boys, 1 and 4, and i will be doing my best to keep them off social media, without being a tyrant of course. What you said about how young people exist online and then lack the skills to go out in the real world really resonates with me. Thanks mate, hope you're well.

[@searsbear7965]

Explain to them why it’s terrible for you in a way they’ll understand and be interested in retaining the info you give them

[@Mediados]

It's a real challenge to find a balance these days. To protect children from harmful manipulation, while not completely alienate them.

[@Kurus-pq7xw]

If you really want to help them, keep them out of public school too.

[@MylezNevison]

Sadly as long as your children have consistent negative experiences from the world towards them; solely based on them being male... it's going to be IMPOSSIBLE to keep them from the red pill. The red pill's entrance point is male trauma especially with regards to relationships with women and society's relationships with them as men. You can't tell me this is a great time to be male in the west... till that is addressed there will always be an opening for the manosphere to be attractive to your sons.

[@mira12825]

@@MylezNevison Why is it a bad time for men in the west? Because they have less power than they had decades ago, yet still not less than women? Because women are no longer dependant on men to survive? Because women can actually afford to not just take the first man to throw themself at her?

[@hkszerlahdgshezraj5219]

When I say I dislike Tate, many ppl respond with: "Ye, but he speaks the truth." Yes, but he's not saying anything new. Nothing he's ever said was something we hadn't heard before. It was just niche before. And he sort of made it mainstream. My problem is what he did and does with this information is dishonorable. Instead of really helping men, the way Stardusk, Barbarossa, Turd Flinging Monkey and many others did back in the day, he's leeching off of them, pretending to help them. Like a spineless weasel.

[@jalepezo]

I agree, actions speak louder than words, like the can help men combat the loneliness epidemich, be better fathers, eat better and assert their rights, a podcast is nonsense

[@lazercat7725]

stardusk is the goat

[@fortuneegbunike3728]

​@@jalepezohe sends money too help palestine and stray dogs

[@Paivren]

it's still good that views like his get more attention in the mainstream. we need more famous red-pillers.

[@elmichellangelo]

"he is not saying anything new". Well shit. noone even from the origin is saying anything new as all was set in stone. It's the way the message is relayed that matter. People like to take comedian speech with a grain of salt because after they finish laughing they crying because of how realistic the message is. Same with Andrew.

[@paris466]

The problem is real. The RedPill solution/treatment is questionable, but it seems to be the best one at this time. If you don't think so, come up with a better one. One *exclusively* FOR men and completely devoid of any trace of the "feminine" touch. One that is helping solve YOUNG MEN'S issues, only.

[@theceohq]

What's wrong with a "feminine" touch? What does feminine touch even mean?

[@paris466]

@@theceohq Men right now need *male* help. Women don't need to be sticking their fingers in the pie, trying to influence the direction it goes. That direction is up to MEN. Women can stay out of it. They're useless on this topic and that's that.

[@megaMagaManX8]

​@@theceohq it's not working. Literally tried your method for 30 something years and it's clearly not working. Tate is a clear symptom. Men need a real answer. fk off

[@leninfranco9328]

I just subscribed to your channel.great job analyzing this problem. We have to expose these clowns and try to help these young men.

[@TRMHOU]

"dude shut up, Fresh and Fit are schooling people for free almost daily. There is a library of free game and encouragement to do better. Tate is different, you have to pay to get in his course.

[@TRMHOU]

"try to help" but F&F are literally doing so with real work, checking in to work 3 times a week pretty much 7 days working and grinding to bring content from REal estate, side hustles, credit repair, etc..

[@leninfranco9328]

@@TRMHOU 😂 free? 😂 they sell a 500 💵 course on how to get laid as we speak. You still have time cause you haven't grown yet and don't even know how to brush your teeth yet..you have time to change 😂

[@stanleyball2615]

#1 Most American Women are A No Fault Divorce Waiting To Happen. This makes them a bad financial risk for a man to marry or common law cohabitate with. #2 Most American Women commit adultery. Thanks to cell phone texting technology and Facebook etc,etc this has made most American Husbands - Cuckolds - who work to financially pay the majority of living expenses for a wife. But another man for free gets to have sex with his wife. #3 Most men women over 30 years old already have Out Of Wedlock Children. This means men unlike men of most of human history Have To Financially Take Care Of Another Man's Children. #4 Most Wives In America get lazy with the sex they give their husbands. American wives cut back on the sex acts they did with their husbands before he married them. And American Wives cut back the number of times they have sex with their husbands. Often to once a month. The Red Pill makes men intelligent enough to not marry , cohabitate or procreate with women in this country to avoid these things the overwhelming vast majority of American Women do. ( I have 4 other things I didn't have time to add to the list ) #5 Paternity Fraud.

[@Paivren]

The Red pill is what helps young men. What are you gonna do, make blue-pilled men more blue-pilled so that their chances with life and women will be even lower?

[@made13145]

My advice to my fellow Men who suffers from this is quite simple. If you afraid/can't do all the advice that been mention like go to club, exercise, etc then start simple. Start from your own living space. Make it nice, clean, and fresh. After that, try go outside. No not to club or anything, just take out your trash or to convenience store. And if you met like your building security, try say "hello" "good morning" "how you doing" etc. Or if you were in convenience store, try say "Thank you" with smile after you done your purchase or find the employee and try to ask them where specific item is. Do it constantly and people would notice you. And you can go many different direction after that, be it club, gym, new hobby, or maybe finally your special someone.

[@ronjatter]

This is excellent advice

[@civicboi96]

I live in the city in CA. When you go outside, nobody is trying to meet you or have small talk bro. Every stranger has eyes forward, is looking at their phone, or looks at you like a deer in headlights for trying to interact with them. There are some cool people that will kinda talk to you, but the interaction never leads to anything long lasting. Eventually the coldness of strangers wears down on you so much that it chips away at you to keep trying to open up to a public that just see you as irrelevant.

[@Spectacular769]

"How do you eat an elephant?" "One bite at a time."

[@elderscrolls8442]

"if you met like your building security, try say "hello" "good morning" "how you doing" etc. Or if you were in convenience store, try say "Thank you" with smile after you done your purchase or find the employee and try to ask them where specific item is. Do it constantly and people would notice you." This is the actual useful part of your advice, the rest is pretty irrelevant.

[@elderscrolls8442]

@@civicboi96 "Eventually the coldness of strangers wears down on you so much that it chips away at you to keep trying to open up to a public that just see you as irrelevant." You miss 100% of the shots you dont take, determined perseverance and the courage to never be "worn out" even when your "worn down" is difficult but necessary to not miss as many meaningful moments as possible before yous 6feet under. Lifes a blip in time, hesitation shortens the already minuscule amount of moments wes alive for

[@Ryanska_u]

These people have been appearing randomly in my music playlists 💀💀💀

[@louiscyfear878]

*_The underlining socio-economic conditions of Red Pill aren't going anywhere._*

[@JakkHorwikk]

Confidence men have always existed and always will exist. If you aren't suspicious of your own motives, you'll get taken for a ride every time. Honestly, it's very sad, harm reduction is something almost abhorred in today's mindsets, these victims are just looking for an easier, softer way of existing within themselves. It's a shame, but, in the same breath, if you behave like this, buy into this, people will dispise you not for the nature of fellowship, but for the vitriol that comes with it. Compassion for me ends when you start being proud of looking down on others. Disgusting.

[@Gamez4eveR]

It's always people who are afraid of challenging their own beliefs that become victims of these conmen. The irony has such gravity that even Jupiter would be impressed

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@Gamez4eveR I have a question for you : Are you a left-winger?

[@dumkaisachakal6341]

Well this is what the people who pushed this on society wanted, men to not think in harm reduction, and females to up the ante on the exploitation of men. Once men knew that if i give you money or something you need i have to get something i want from you, today men are reduced to working jobs they hate to log in and give some random female that doesn't do or deserve nothing, his hard earned money without getting nothing in return - he is watching her strip or send pictures of her or some other females body parts - and it is not special to him she is mass sending them without having to exchange fluids with the man. When i talk to old men about this nonsense they say - when i was young i went to professional females and we bargained for the price of their services, if she said i give BJ's for 50 he would want her to lower it to 20 and if she refused he walked away, to the next one. Now you give your money for nothing and then you feel like c*ap, men are being bankrupted by these OF females, then are found not-alive a few days latter, because they reality of what they did kicks in.

[@GeorgeStokes95]

I remember being a very angry teenager and growing up with brothers who pre-dated the dawn of social media and online dating you couldn't help but pine for the "good old days". But the fact is happiness starts at home. Self reflection and an understanding of WHY you're unhappy takes a shed load of work and its easy to just say its because you're single or not getting any sex. People want to be better but feel like they don't know how. Hence these guys are so popular, they're giving (albeit awful) advice. A how to guide on stopping being sad. But there's no blanket catch all to make every man happy.

[@ipodman1910]

Not all of these guys are giving bad advice. I would say most of them are giving good advice and nobody else is doing that for young men! This grifter who made that video and lied about manosphere almost completely is describing himself - he wants to make a buck on manosphere while pushing men under the bus!

[@Volknsarr]

Yeah the good old days where the teachers beat their students, children got caoughing sirup for them to sleep who cant remember that! People really pretend literally everything was better even if its bullshit not everything was or is perfect, bc its life.

[@Volknsarr]

@@ipodman1910 Well thats why manosphere has nothing to do with mens rights but people do not see the difference this youtuber showed at 3:36 an article where they talking about the manosphere that supposed has something incommon.

[@MultiSciGeek]

No no, as much as self-improvement is important, the pre digital age argument has it's merit. It definitely is different. Back then you weren't a score in some algorithm, you were a whole story that someone had to read before making a decision... in the process, certain things can flourish that definitely can't over a phone. Even more so when you don't have as many options.

[@basilhenry-eyo6522]

how are they awful advice though???

[@BenibomBugs]

Bro the music at the very start sounds like my alarm even though I know it's coming from the video it's giving me mad anxiety lmfao

[@MrAntifreezer]

I really do like your take on this. Not just mindless bashing and inserting ''own opinion which is 100% correct, dummy, ha ha'', but also not a dry and shallow overview. Very good balance!

[@DjVortex-w]

Chronic loneliness is, quite ironically, one of the best-understood and least-understood conditions that plagues the human condition. One of the biggest problems is that people who have not experienced it don't truly understand it. It's very similar to, for example, extreme stress: You year the negative physical effects that stress can cause, but you don't really understand it, empathize with it, until you experience it yourself. If your entire life is free of prolonged extreme (eg. job-related) stress, the various symptoms that people talk about may feel distant, abstract and, perhaps to some level, even hard to imagine and even believe. Because of this, people who have never suffered from prolonged extreme stress may easily dismiss it or not take it as seriously as it should. The effects of chronic loneliness is even worse in this respect. At least nobody derides, mocks, ridicules, belittles nor verbally attack the concept nor people who suffer from stress. Other people might not fully understand it deep down, but at least they aren't outright hostile and aggressive about it. It's quite a different with chronic loneliness. Another big problem is that most people either know or easily believe the physical symptoms that prolonged stress can cause, but they may be completely ignorant of the very real symptoms that chronic loneliness may cause. How many people believe that men being lonely merely means that they want sex, and that's it? Or even in the better-case scenarios, how many people believe that lonely men would just like some life companion, but them not getting one is a somewhat minor inconvenience for them (as in, like, they may get bored and lonely and perhaps a bit sad, but that's about it)? Yet, study after study shows that prolonged chronic loneliness, as well as touch deprivation, does cause many serious symptoms. Among others, it can cause depression, stress, elevated blood pressure, weight gain, cardiovascular diseases, and longer recovery times from diseases (and, in fact, higher mortality rates from diseases because of complications in recovery). Touch deprivation, in particular, is one of these things that modern medicine understands, but the wider general public does not. Most chronically lonely men do not seek a romantic companion merely for sex. They seek one for companionship and physic touch. Just being able to hug and touch, and be hugged and touched, on a regular daily basis, has very real health benefits. It reduces stress, it reduces blood pressure, and has all kinds of psychological and physiological health benefits. It's no wonder that chronically lonely men desperately seek a way out of the slump. Not many people are willing to help them, and even from those who would be willing don't know how to. The men themselves see no solution, and others can't see any solution either. No wonder some men may be drawn to those people who are seemingly offering a solution.

[@user-nv5fu9nk4p]

beautifully said

[@jordannipper4890]

as a person in therapy, physical contact has been very hard to get used to. because for 20+ years the only physical contact i knew was enemies hurting me, and me hurting other enemies. hugging someone brings me to tears almost every time, people patting me on the back in congratulation or poking me (with friendly intent) makes my adrenaline spike, and anxiety soar. More than 1 person touching me at all like say a group of people hyping me up for my ability to move heavy things really makes me feel like im backed into a corner and staring at a loaded canon.

[@DjVortex-w]

@@jordannipper4890 For touch to be good and beneficial, you of course need to be very comfortable with the person who is touching you and you are touching back. For an adult most often this will be a romantic partner who you really can relax with while snuggling (eg. when watching a movie or whatever). Touching needs to be relaxing, not anxiety inducing. When the other person is not a romantic partner, it can be more difficult for it to be relaxing. For someone who has been touch-deprived for decades it can take a lot of getting-used-to.

[@ouwebrood497]

Physical touch is very important. First of all, I think if you are alone you should get a pet (or 2). You can cuddle with them. For me this appeared to be quite a good choice. Second, sex work should be normalized. It is OK to visit a sex worker if it seems impossible to find someone to have your sexual and physical touch with. Lot of sex workers also like it to cuddle and kiss, so it's more than 'just sex'. I know it really benefits me.

[@sebp9882]

Not to mention the gaslighting and victim-blaming. Just because there is no one factor for loneliness, the haves will always blame the have-nots further cementing the problem and lack of understanding

[@killerecho]

There was a version of this in the 2000s called the PUA/Pick-up Artist community. Just like most things, they range from boilerplate common sense lifestyle advice that could be found anywhere, all the way to thinly veiled hate groups, which then cross over to other things like politics and conspiracies, because of course they did. The problems are worse now but the allure has always been the same - they offer hope to the desperate. In that way, they're not unlike religious proselytizers or MLMs. They promise all these things that ironically you're helping the top grifters attain but will never reach yourself, by design.

[@PepeCoinMania]

The most cringe people I ever seen 😂these dudes were very cringe

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

People need to take a step back and get an understanding of ✡ media.

[@t700e]

@@JamesSmith-qs4hxYou should probably stop eating crayons bro.

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

@@t700e You should probably watch Europa The Last Battle 👀.... bro.

[@lowpinglag]

I remember the PUA thing back then. And it operated the same as now. "I'm successful, you can be too, just buy my book"

[@izil1fe]

Its empowering young men.. that is why it is so attacked by the media and the system bots..

[@user-gw9vu6hz8l]

Red piller logic be like: If you get triggered by our content, it's because we speak truth. Because the truth hurts, therefore you need to change..

[@rudeegruenberg9184]

which is bullshit and stupidly strawman

[@AntonHippopotamus]

So I do have one issue with this essay. It talks about how the Red Pill movement exploits male loneliness for profit, but seems to imply that there's some sort of problem with "avoiding therapy." But what is therapy other than exploiting peoples' grief for profit? For the first two decades of my life I've had therapy shoved down my throat. It was just repetitive sessions with a revolving door of people, giving blanket copy paste, common sense statements and advice... and when this impersonal process inevitably fails, you're given up on, referred to a psychiatrist and then medicated. And I suppose everything can work for somebody, but from what I see, most men that are "therapy avoidant," are not exactly that. They are men who tried therapy for years or decades, and eventually gave up on it when the whole system of psych work failed them. I find it weird to shame one group for "exploiting lonely people for profit" while propping up another industry that does it far worse.

[@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722]

Careful in putting all therapists in the same box. Unless you want one therapist to abandon all shreds of compassion and give you an unmerciful humble pie that includes leaving you with nothing for a whole year

[@AntonHippopotamus]

@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 it's pretty clear that this is a generalization and not putting 100% of anyone in the therapist category in a box. But when being told by therapy advocates that I just need to "find the right therapist" and I see the amount of time it takes to get in with just ONE therapist, and how many of them were not right for me, it gets to a point where I have to realize that "this isn't working" and it's time to try something else.

[@arete7884]

Those pills are chemical lobotomy

[@anthill1510]

I am sorry you had bad eperiences with therapy. That`s not the average experience though and it`s really helpful for most people. It`s not a grift, they just can`t offer their work without getting compensation. A good therapist has a plan how to help you that can be checked and evaluated with the question if it actually helped. I am sure that very few men in the red pill space have tried therapy for decades, simply because they are way too young for that. I am pretty sure most of them have never seen a therapist, ever.

[@megaMagaManX8]

therapy is just a secular replacement for confession. Shocker it's Jewish and doesn't work

[@MegaVidFan1]

Holy shit Kira, I JUST had a whole class discussion about all of these topics. The teacher was astounded to hear about connection of Incels to the concept of "The Red Pill" to eventually Andrew Tate. I'm definitely going to share this with them, great work!

[@creole32908]

What class did you have this convo in, and was it in college?

[@stephanreiken9912]

I'd say it's because young men don't have fathers and take most extreme version of the red pill because it's popular and tells them they are the kings of the world that are entitled to everything. Which is no different than modern feminism and making undeserving queens that think they deserve everything. But one of those is socially acceptable, and as long as one is acceptable, young men will intuitively see that and take the opposite stance to empower themselves and young women will continue down the path as its what is taught to them in schools.

[@darkcloud9053]

Probably gender studies class.

[@nobuneko2005]

Teenage and college aged males today are outright evil. I wish nothing but abject suffering upon them. As a female surrounded by red-pilled males it’s done nothing but destroy me psychologically. I accept now that being female makes me just an utter subh*m*n, and nothing will ever fucking change that. We are worthless and don’t deserve love. But most of all, you are all worthless and unworthy of love

[@Gamez4eveR]

@@darkcloud9053any class covering societal history or psychology would cover this. I'm sure you've never heard of these subjects before

[@FilippoZerostress]

Good video, very good points.

[@me0101001000]

The more I see about the struggles of men around my age, I think I'm extremely lucky to have a strong support system and network of friends who love and care about me, in spite of my conditions and odd experiences. Those of you who are struggling, I really can't imagine what you're going through, and I wish you the best in conquering those empty feelings!

[@SquarishLink]

its like a blackhole hovering above you constantly sucking, purpose meaning and hope all day every day. It only gets strong as the time passes as it does. Someday it will swallow me whole, until then i just live one day at a time wishing it were the last.

[@InGodITrust333]

@@SquarishLinkI pray that whatever heartache you are going through ends. I hope you will be able to experience a more abundant life soon. Hang in there.

[@draganvujatovic4603]

Let's not ignore the fact that these people, especially Fresh&Fit, are almost solely hosting the worst kinds of girls personality-wise. Most of the girls are not like that. Most of the attractive girls are not like that either. If you are socializing in the real world and your experience on this topic is different than mine , I'd strongly advise you to start building new social circles elsewhere.

[@josephmueller3752]

you are not seeing the girls there, you are seeing the masks they put on for that audience

[@mrkiky]

Tbh I've never seen a young woman not having hoe pics on social media. I really haven't run into anything in my life to contradict the red pill information. I see examples that confirm red pill over and over. I even knew 2 women that I always held as exceptions, as paragons of "good women". I didn't keep in touch with one of them and the other one just proved me wrong recently. For sure, anywhere where there's a possible grift, the grifters will come. I recognized immediately what Andrew Tate and his HU was and always said it was a scam. Content creators try more and more desperately to get clicks and views and even create fake content or try hard to create controversy and scandals (fresh and fit is a good example). But the information behind the red pill is still accurate. And tbh, the fault for the red pill even having a place to exist still is feminism and the biggest exploiters of male loneliness is still the porn industry, only fans, female twitch streamers, dating apps and women in general with their simp farming.

[@mexreax4493]

most women want someone to take care of them. they will not date bums that cant even go outside.

[@oliversmith2129]

"Most of the attractive girls are not like that either." Hahahaha. That's cute. FnF may be grifting with their podcast but they are not always wrong.

[@nelcomargaming6612]

from my experience, most attractive girls are like that. They do this because attractive women can get away with everything and treat men horribly and yet still be wanted.

[@charlieevans4805]

One thing is absolutely for sure. The creator of this video voted for Biden! Good bye.

[@KiraTV1]

Yes, me as a British citizen who has never been to America voted for the president of the United States. Your carer needs to come and put you to bed. No way someone as stupid as you should be unsupervised on the Internet.

[@XS-03_Apollo]

@@KiraTV1 Wait, there's more countries on earth than America????

[@KiraTV1]

Apparently, not to some of these people, though. Everything has to be America, especially the all-important and brain rotting American politics. Everything in their sad little world revolves around and relates to red versus blue. It's honestly so pathetically sad and transparent.

[@canon07]

​@@KiraTV1even in our time people in the manosphere are really becomes more to extreme to the point where people can't accept the reality check and just deny what is front of them.

[@JR-lw3ms]

trump really cares about you! LOL 🤡

[@BlackAngusReviews]

Great even headed video. Rollo has been a positive influence for me with his books and general assessment of the state of things, but he’s also a grifter especially noticed when he got with the frauds fresh and fit

[@PlanetJeroen]

Its not a dating problem. Its a daddy problem. The whole manosphere is projecting hard .. whenever they accuse women of something, its what they themselves are doing. They keep saying that these women missed a daddy in their life .. instead its them that missed a daddy, that as a result didnt learn them self-reliance, self-respect, and staying emotionally centered. The end result is insecure, immature and needy little boys, that are probably used to getting their way via their mother, and expect their girlfriends to pick up where mom left off. It's pathetic.

[@TheGamingChad.]

keep in mind, 90% of men are invisible to women, duh. Most women are running circles around 1% guys.

[@DaniF-0621]

I have a young adult son, he most of the time complains about society not just here in USA other countries as well , this is the thing i'm from Guatemala and i always reminded him to embrace life and enjoy his day no matter how shitty is, i'm not feminist i respect their decisions at the end of the day every human being have rights and free will, i'm in my 40s but one thing i've been doing with my son is to introduce him to the things my generation used to do in the 90s , devices, cameras, cultures, i told him i don't care what ethnicity is his future bride as long he's happy i'm happy, of course education is important but behavioral health is priority, we need more down to earth people than empty cold human beings, my husband is from LA obviously other culture i love him i respect him, he's a great father and provider, but there's one difference between loneliness and solitude

[@Volknsarr]

Do you also show him the flaws of the 90s? bc they wherent perfect and its 2023 so it aged.

[@TheShowOff2I]

Just because your husband got married doesn’t mean your son is going to get manipulated into marriage as well.

[@theneutralguy2317]

you’re a based mother.

[@imbatman8472]

imagine being this blue pilled

[@delltawnnorthri7459]

"MuH aNti sEmItisM"

[@Mohammed-lc8oi]

can't help those who don't want to be helped

[@michaelmccoy9147]

Imagine Being A Lonely “Man”

[@imbatman8472]

@@michaelmccoy9147 a real man doesn't get lonely

[@JR-lw3ms]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@scottperry7311]

The rise of the Red Pill is not only because "the lack of taking responsibility" and influencers like Andrew Tate. Its also a reaction to the Culture that has become anti male which helps create more and more negative outcomes for even men that do take responsibility and don't by into the Red Pill mentality. Add to this that some societies also are so heavily effected and influenced by a host of other issues which affect most people, both men and women, young and old, and you start to get a strong rejection of the society and the blame game begins no matter if it is justified or not. Why do we attack positive role models for men that tell men to take hold of their lives even be masculine and call them the most vial things, even when these men are not extreme like Tate and others in the Red Pill community. I think laying all the blame on men and not seeing all the other issues and hate directed at them and at our entire society is asking to make this problem worse and worse.

[@cryptocris9598]

"bb-but the MATRIX bro🤓"

[@Slitherssss]

It really is sad. I almost fell into that red pill trash when I went through a divorce, back when it was first starting to gain traction several years ago. Fortunately I didn't and I found the most amazing relationship I've ever had and live a very happy life now. It's easier to hate than to love, and easier to blame than take accountability

[@KiraTV1]

Grats dude. Seems there's 2 groups of men who fall into the trap. Older men who have either just had a bad relationship experience or are subconsciously becoming aware that life is passing them by without them having a great time. Young men who don't know any better and easily have their heads turned.

[@albertvnguyen]

@@KiraTV1what you are saying is all men are suceptible to fall in that trap...

[@mariusvanc]

@@KiraTV1"had a bad relationship experience" Ok, so everyone then 🤣🤣🤣

[@Slitherssss]

@@mariusvanc "JUST had a bad relationship experience", I emphasized what you left out of the quote. I wholeheartedly agree. Last time I was on the Redpill reddit, from which I'm banned, that's exactly what kind of men that were there.

[@Tailionis]

I fell for it, unfortunately. I have bpd, so it was easy to manipulate me. Now I'm living free and single for over 5 years. If a female comes in my life again, so be it. I am content alone or not

[@fuzzypanda1684]

The idea that attractiveness is the most important attribute in dating, and that most guys aren't willing to put in the work to improve themselves, hits me especially hard. Prior to my early 20's I was NOT an attractive man. I was skinny, unconfident, shy, and lacked the charisma or ability to talk to people, let alone girls. But I was willing to identify MYSELF as the problem, and was willing to put in the work to change. I dedicated YEARS transforming myself into a guy with a physique like a Marvel superhero, and developing a level of confidence, charisma and social skills that would allow me to feel comfortable in any social situation, and I succeeded. Yet, despite that, over a decade later I still get overwhelmingly poor results with women. Getting rejected back when I could point to any one of the dozens of things that were unattractive about myself was one thing. But getting consistently rejected when having a face and physique that looks like you just walked off the set of Baywatch, and the confidence and charisma to approach girls easily, is an entirely different thing. But being lumped in with the 99% of guys who refused to put in the time and effort to change themselves, and somehow getting the same results that they do...that's the deathblow. Nothing says "try as hard as you want, you won't succeed" like that.

[@bro918]

Brutal blackpill

[@Maria-oh1nq]

let me guess, youre a western male, most of you guys arent attractive, muscles cant fix the face

[@nigelbhebhe2805]

There might be other factors you didn't spend as much of your focus on. How are your finances like? Are you the typical gentlemanly nice guy? If you've got a bit of money and aren't a pushover, then maybe look into travelling to other cities or countries to widen your prospects. Just my two cents

[@kaekae1782]

You’re missing something. Do you have a boring personality?

[@FireSilver25]

Congratulations on the progress you have made! You ought to be very proud of that. However, most healthy women crave someone they can be emotionally vulnerable and safe with. Someone who is easy to communicate with and who has empathy. I hope your next step is to find a good therapist so you can build intra and interpersonal skills. It’s work but it improves every other area of life as well. ❤

[@laurius571]

I'm glad I discovered manosphere long ass time ago. 10,15 years? Can't remember. Been there, done that, seen it all. And boy, there was no "going down the rabbit hole" in this video, you barely scratched your own butthole. There was many faces of this community(roosh, rollo, tate), there will be more. You're right on few things. Yes, we live in times where everything in monetized so no wonder it was infected with grifting clowns trying to sell snake oil. Yes, there are bad advices and there was bad advices back in the redpill subreddit glory days and we used to brutally call them out. This is what redpill about - seeing the truth. The truth is - as always - just follow the basics: lift and eat healthy, go out, socialize, form meaningful relationships with men and women, acquire knowledge and be professional in your field, make and invest money to secure your future.

[@arete7884]

Golden days of real social dynamics

[@bogdankovalenko5096]

our parents neither lifted nor eat healthy. and yet they were fine and no loneliness epidemic

[@SasisaPlays]

Redpill is not about the truth as much as most redpillers think. Truth is somewhere between redpill and blackpill, and with each day it moves closer and closer to pure blackpill, sadly.

[@s3any1977]

I agree with following the basics. I do them all but I still struggle with mental health and feeling lonely. If I didn't do those basics I probably would have self deleted about 10 years ago. Men and women are a lot more nuanced than the pseudo science the RP sells to vulnerable young men.

[@iamanderson]

@@bogdankovalenko5096 ofc, but I dare you to find the quality of women available to your grandfather nowadays, also at those times there wasn't social media like tiktok, instagram, facebook, etc. that was a gamechanger, your grandpa was the best thing that you grandma could get, but in these times every woman thinks of herself as the price, so to get them things like eat healthy and lift weights are mandatory, the difference must be obvious, there is a huge change between generations

[@elgatochurro]

If you think Tate is redpill, you dont even know what youre talking about.

[@heartsofiron4ever]

What is Tate then? Clown Pill?

[@leightonpetty4817]

These influencers will always bring to mind Tim Ferriss, author of “4 Hour Work Week” and subsequently a bunch of speeches, podcasts, guest events etc etc where he essentially pioneered the “Try for Passive Income” movement back in the 2000s. He talks about how you should start a shipping business like he did for passive income, he’s got a net worth over a $100 million, surely he knows what he’s talking about on this subject, right? Then you find out that the company he founded and “genius investments” make up a fraction of a fraction of his net worth. Where _did_ all that money come from? Book sales! Podcast appearances! Guest speeches and keynotes! Where he tells people “How to get rich like me”, while telling them things that did not contribute to his wealth in the slightest.

[@apinakapina]

Being able to be this successful "mentor" is a grift that's very common in certain business spaces. People get sold this "passive income" idea, and maybe even a blueprint to get going. Then they produce some kind of version of that same material, and nobody is interested. I've seen people I follow doing a similar thing successfully, but they've had their own voice and an existing audience.

[@ifgwelf]

Rollo I think is particularly dangerous because he tries to add a level of intellectualism to his redpill grift.

[@chocolatesquirrel2002]

Grandpa has made tons of greens of course he wants it to keep going

[@NULLBDBB]

I have many problems with this video and I would say I am pretty red pilled so this is coming from a real supposed 'Tatecell' even though that's a contradicting word and the red pill is huge as it encompasses different types of ideologies and talking points. And I actually disagree with Tate on a lot but go ahead . First off all you critique the red pill as not being the way while not providing any other pathways for young men which you acknowledged at the start of the video. You also are very inconsistent with your view of the redpill. You claim in parts of the video the redpill is based on victimhood from society and explaining that the redpill is basically a cope for life then in the next sentence you talk about how the redpill is obsessed with self improvement and having the need to level up in. So which is it? Also not to mention your points about Tinder, your ignorance to liberalism and feminism being the result of this, and 'muh racism/antisemitism' part is cringe and doesn't make any sense and is very cringe, your moral grandstanding and promoting this idea of "its all made to divide you". You can literally say that about anything, its a meaningless flawed statement. Overall bad video on the subject and i actually agree with the some of criticisms of it as well. Ashame that you have such a mainstream media predictable perspective on this it. I was hoping more of a ShoeOnHead type response but whatever

[@foxloop3785]

So, no red pill, no thinking outside of the box, we just follow trends like mindless beasts. Creepy. Also, I hate Tate

[@gareth19771]

Red Pill is the mindless trend

[@Shadowjester1985]

Unpopular opinion, if you're a guy who's looking for guidance and turn to the likes of Fresh n' Fit and Andrew Tate, not having a girlfriend is the least of your problems.

[@JR-lw3ms]

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

[@johnprezioso270]

Too real. Thanks for talking about this.

[@Hiyooma]

I agreed with everything you said except one thing. I'm 31 years old and I am now by definition a "hermit" or "neet" whatever you wanna call it. but it's by choice. I dated quite a bit of girls tried to find the right one ended up in a 7 year relationship that was just me wanting her to be everything I thought she was and ignored red flags. I had quite a few friends and went out regularly. but I'm most relaxed and happy at home at my computer. The statistics don't lie. Less friends = Less drama no Relationship = no drama. Sometimes there are times in peoples lives where they are happier avoiding humans in general. Now how long and how far someone takes that is an entirely different rabbit hole.

[@sheercold26]

Are you happy?

[@Hiyooma]

@@sheercold26 happier then I am dealing with crowds and groups of people absolutely.

[@gabebarbieri194]

I’m happy for you if you enjoy being less social but I feel like human connections are a big part of what makes life worth living

[@ncs9753]

@@gabebarbieri194 Some people just don't like crowd, noise (parties) etc. I know married people (both man or woman) who just dislike going to those occasion but I mean they are independent and have kids so nothing wrong with it. It's just that introverted people by nature are in higher risk to be lonely/shut-in if in their younger years they did not made any meaningful relationship.

[@LifeofBrad1]

I think just the way people interact with each other has changed over the years. Like, everyone's scared of saying the wrong thing and getting into a political argument now. Back when I had a decent sized friend group 8 years ago, that wasn't as much of a thing. Even though the people in that group generally leaned left, some of the stuff they used to come out with would be considered highly politically incorrect these days, but it was fine back then. I feel like identity politics and word policing has done a lot of damage to social relationships, especially when it comes to joking around.

[@samjohnson8588]

I've spent the last few years in a really bad space when I had to move back to my parents in 2019 - I think if I didn't have other male friends sliding into the red pill swamp that I may have started sinking into those waters myself. During the first lockdown, I used the 3 months I had available to me to dedicate to a hobby that means something to me rather than buying random shit to appeal to my monkey brain, made moves to improve my financial situation by working some ass jobs that gave me the experience for a higher than average wage and have made better diet / exercise choices so I wasn't a walking blob anymore. I've done that for a few years and I've finally moved out to my own place the other month. Things aren't perfect now - I still get lonely and down from time to time but I've got stuff going on now and have been able to keep things ticking along just focusing on getting my shit together - all without having to buy any kind of course.

[@jessealexander9074]

I can relate, you chose the better path. Good job.

[@tabby73]

That sounds really good 👍👍

[@darkcloud9053]

Man your life sounds depressing.

[@RoseDrawsThings]

that rules dude! keep going!

[@steveb6718]

never been lonely in my life..................... stop already. get your shit together, grow up, do the hard thing.