Referee Nigel Owens tells off Tobias Botes - 'This is not Soccer'

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[@marcstixdavey]

"I don't think we've met before, but I'm the referee on this field, not you." I've actually got a T-shirt with that quote on it.

[@DownloadARevolt20]

I once commented on this video saying that Owens was crazy to think he could penalize Botes for shouting even though it doesn't exist in the rule book! Understandably I got a lot of thumbs down for it! I regret making that statement! Owens is one of the best and in all honesty, I'd personally have him as the referee in any game I'd play! I sincerely love it when he openly lets players know that he won't take any crap from them when he talks! In my mind, one of the best! :)

[@ChelseaFC33333]

""i dont think we've met before, im the referee & youre not." hahahahah love it!

[@benvanhook5069]

Thats cool! How do you catch what they are saying?

[@svalbard2614]

Ref is wearing a mic.

[@benvanhook5069]

Thank you.

[@romolomazzoni3737]

My favorite nigel quote is at a lineout he said im straighter.than that.haha

[@ProjectVRD]

That is the thing about some rules books. So many rules that people well versed will often miss the one or two lines that say the referee can deliver discipline outside of the standard rules if necessary to maintain order in the interest of the match, the players and the sport. Such as sin binning someone for calling out to the ref to take action. It may not be written as a caution able offence but the rule of law paragraph will allow it.

[@ChileChazzar]

Gotta love Nigel Owens

[@Mungop389]

such a good ref

[@4444le]

Love how the referee is advertising Specsavers

[@wo0dy]

@FordPerfect @klutch1996 If you both look at the history of football, you will find out it was first called 'Association Football' which was shortened to “Soccer” and then after the game became popular with middle and lower classes it became football. Its got nothing to do with anybody outside of England..

[@TheOlliehill]

@themadguyreturnth mate look atbandiboi100's comments and look who you're sideing with. although you have a very valid point, rugby players run a lot more when they don't have the ball and it's not just about running with the ball it's all the scrums, rucks and maul's that really take it out of you. and those hits take a lot more stamina out of you than the running, ask any boxer, body shots kill your stamina and make it harder to catch your breath whilst you fight, it's very much the same.

[@Niiikh23]

@TheOlliehill actually, football resembled rugby more than football before WWE supposedly picked up the ball. The Football Association created a set of standardised rules that would become football as we know it, and that became known as association football. It's fairly irrelevant really, I call 'soccer' football, just felt I had to put the people that don't know their history in their place :) (and that doesn't include yourself by the way!)

[@watson442]

Quality!!!!

[@23951028]

'I don't play or watch it' Came across this by accident whilst searching for a bit of opera ???

[@ChrisTaylor94]

@TheMikeyReilly he was shouting and appealing for the ref to make a decision for his team and Nigel Owens was having none of it

[@paulwilliams9570]

Brilliant! Explains the rules, explains who is in charge and all in a very matter of fact way, end of story. It's funny how 6ft+ behemoths are reduced to almost naughty schoolboys by refs in rugby :) I wish football was refereed in the same way because the abuse that those officials are subjected to by primadonna footballers is almost arrestable if it was done out on the street by me or you. Personally I think a 10 minute sin bin should be introduced for persistent offenders.

[@Irfan87]

Football referees dont do that. They dont tell the players why they are being booked or carded, bad decisions cant be rescinded, football still refuses to use technology. Fix that first.

[@Gimacol]

I really really wish there were refs like this in football !

[@vika0194]

+Gareth Thomas collina...

[@Gimacol]

Victor K He was still nothing like refs in rugby. He still didn't have the respect that they get in rugby.

[@vika0194]

Gareth Thomas that's because the federation in rugby is way better with rules against how players ''MUST'' behave towards refs. Unlike football where pro players say whatever they want and get away with it. Not collina's fault. It's FIFA's fault.

[@ARBRACAMEV12]

Well they will be killed outside so...

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

I love Nigel Owens. I wish he was down here refereeing Super Rugby games.

[@snowman01]

alpha as fuck

[@goldenmemes51]

+striker161 i know right

[@ioseffsambrook8123]

Some people here are like crap ref and shit. I bet they didn't even know that Wales existed before Gareth Bale went to Madrid. Rugby is respect, The big difference is when a team scores a try or a kicker scores is preparing to kick for the posts, it's very exciting. Cymru am byth.

[@Mujangga]

I wonder what would happen if Black American Football players were refereed by rugby officials...

[@menofsin]

Mujangga they'd still laugh every time they cashed one of their checks.

[@adamclark1972uk]

Mujangga I don't think it's the fact that they are rugby officials so much as the fact that, unlike in soccer, teams can be territorially penalised for back-chat which makes the difference

[@OllieWales]

The football players would either fall into line or lose yards for their team, or get sent off

[@roybatty-]

Meanwhile NBA referees, "Please forgive me King James."

[@8enrico4]

THIS IS NOT SOCCER!!!!!! IS THAT CLEAR!!!, Epic quote!

[@MrShizzleBrizzle]

Sit down buddy.

[@wo0dy]

@TheOlliehill interesting to see it all started from stamina, im yet to work that one out, when you have a defencive line that will mainly use only half of the pitch, and really only a hand full of players will be pushing towards the goal in attack or in defence nobody really closes down the ball player, one pass and oh somebody else will get him & that means they have more stamina? i just dont get it, they see big people and think unfit but props could kill a footie on stamina alone :/

[@wo0dy]

@TheOlliehill haha i know the feeling, some people just dont get it. I have been there many a time and all it would take is for the footie supporter to open their eyes and stop being so narrow minded, i too dont mind football, just all the crap that comes with it spoils what could be an alright game. but i mean look at his reply to me uses an e.g of Henry, not like he ever cheated, he wouldnt handle the ball in order to score now would he. the guys isnt even worth wasting your time on tbh.

[@wo0dy]

@TheOlliehill i see 2 comments form you to people and 1 from them back to you.. based on them 3 comments i can tell you 1 helpful thing.. a footie suport will never admit that rugby is equal to/more complex than football in almost every way including skill, and that kicking a ball and standing around for 20 mins while the other 70 mins is players rolling about, is far more knackering than the actual 80 mins of rugby, my advice to you is let them love the over paid shocking sport that is football

[@kjsdlask]

It's not like simulation doesn't happens in Rugby either. Bloodgate anyone? The difference between football and Rugby, is that we Football fans admit that there are problems within our game, while the Rugby fans thinks that Rugby is whiter than white and doesn't want to hear one bad word about Rugby.

[@187prettyboy]

I can't believe I just heard a British referee say soccer. Normally, only Americans and Australians and New Zealanders say soccer.

[@L1nKo64]

'Soccer' lol

[@wo0dy]

@TheOlliehill and incase the point wasnt clear lol.. walk away, their head is filled with the same stuff the ball is..

[@wbajrj]

@bandiboi100 i know, i'm confused why it's the most popular sport as well. And how can you call rugby boring when all football is is a bunch of poofs passing a ball back and forth. Rugby takes far more physical conditioning than football any day. Rugby players put there body on the line for 80 mins whilst footballers spend 90 mins making sure they don't get dirt under their freshly manicured nails

[@llanelli14]

Football/soccer could learn so much from the way rugby union (and rugby league) treats, respects and assists its officials yet they stubbornly refuse to modernize that aspect of the game. For me, the best party of this is that the clock is stopped whilst the ref speaks his piece. That's as it has been for many years now yet in a football match the seconds would tick over and everyone would soon start to jeer. It's just a timing device - it CAN be paused!

[@AliTobi]

@olliebobable haha ios that a joke ? how can rugby a sport with no qb's be better then football where u from? new zeland ? lmao that explains it

[@TheMikeyReilly]

@Obelisk1990 The word 'soccer' comes from the word 'association'. Association-rules football is the official name for football/soccer, just like Rugby-rules is the name for rugby. 'Football' is a term encompassing many sports. Association-rules just happens to be the most widely played.

[@oDannnYx]

football obviously takes more skill. it's a very technical game, you need to have really good eye to foot co-ordination. to be a rugby player, it's all about physique. you need to be a big, quick guy (depending whereabouts on the field you play obviously), but football is greater in terms of skill.

[@AngryDogsProductions]

@ginganz13 there is more skill in footy rugby sure spin passes long kicks the skill N power players show is more than RSA vs New Nealand its two differnt games footy shows skill rugby shows knocking a guy off his feet and sayin its a fair challenge

[@wbajrj]

@bandiboi100 i've only ever watched a few games of football in my life. Of those i've seen footballers hitting the ground after being tackled, clutch there knee or something with a face full of agony, just to see if they can get a penalty for it. Pathetic

[@llanelli14]

Few people have asked why the ref said "soccer". The player Owens addresses is the Treviso scrum-half - Tobias Botes. He's from South Africa. In South African popular media "soccer" is the word most commonly used to describe association football. Ergo...

[@Leifr952]

No, it's not soccer but rugby really wishes is was. Rugby has such a massive inferiority complex.

[@michaelwallace8861]

You just met Mr Owens! Best in the world

[@neilsmith2009]

football should never be mentioned in the same sentence as rugby mma boxing wrestling etc, football is the ultimate pansey sport enough said

[@lancevance6643]

Indeed, because FOOTBALL* (not soccer) is the world's most appreciated sport. Unlike rugby.

[@amaethon2117]

Ha Ha... he reminds me of my old coach, takes shit from no one while making you sound like a child.

[@Obelisk1990]

It's not called soccer, it's called association football. I hate it when people say soccer!

[@messiahsplayland]

@AndrewT12349876 First of all I used the word PROBABLY so that's that. Look at what he said to me and you'll realise that you kind of come across as a hypocrite. I had a right to say the things I did about him considering the fact those other comments of mine were long for nearly 2 months and he went many pages back to search for comments and attacked me out of nowhere, that is the reason I replied to him like that. I'm replying to you normally because you sound like a gentleman unlike others...

[@messiahsplayland]

@wo0dy1 We were talking dives not hand balls but some how you can't understand that which is pretty hilarious, I also MADE IT CLEAR that 2nd guy that I was deliberately being ignorant about stamina in the convo I had with the 1st guy because the 1st guy was ignorant which he has understood but it seems like you didn't. You calling anyone an "airhead" or "narrow minded" is like Valuev calling Hussien Bolt slow. I thought I was so clear, ah I'm not going to insult you it would be hopeless.

[@TheOlliehill]

@wo0dy1 I'm sorry man i can't help it, rugby is a big passion of mine and i also enjoy football but i can't resist telling people that they're idiots when they post on youtube. some of the stuff people say is just rediculous i.e " teams like man city or barcelona have the biggest stamina in sports" i mean how can you read that and not tell the guy that wrote it that he's an idiot?

[@TheOlliehill]

@swifta123 i would like it to be know to the world that we originally were argueing about stamina and now you have stopped talking about that and are trying to say that i was saying that there is less skill in football. This is false. They are completely different sports entirely and to jusge the level of skill required is meaningless. Rugby is a test of strength stamina speed skill and intelligence, football is nearly entirely skill with the rest but to a much smaller degree.

[@TheOlliehill]

@swifta123 i checked my inbox and these comments, either you didn't actually post a second comment or youtube is lying to me. Either way, i have not once said that it's harder to run with a rugby ball than a football.... not once. I have however said that it takes more stamina to play rugby. In regards to Messi, well i was the one that said that messi and ronaldo are probably the only two people in football that are more skillful than dan carter or johnny wilkinson.

[@TheOlliehill]

@sbarbrooke1 well i took his example of a footballer who is fast fit and strong so my example of a rugby player that beats him in all 3 is perectly reasonable and if you can find a footballer who is faster stronger AND fitter then I will gladly accept your superior sporting knowledge. try and find me a top tier international prop that is un-fit and that doesn't run massive distances in a match whilst exherting massive amounts of energy in tackles, rucks, scrums or mauls..... please.

[@TheOlliehill]

@sbarbrooke1 well i took his example of a footballer who is fast fit and strong so my example of a rugby player that beats him in all 3 is perectly reasonable and if you can find a footballer who is faster stronger AND fitter then I will gladly accept your superior sporting knowledge. try and find me a top tier international prop that is un-fit and that doesn't run massive distances in a match whilst exherting massive amounts of energy in tackles, rucks, scrums or mauls..... please.

[@olliebobable]

After playing rugby and football for many years in my opinion rugby is much better. I find it a better atmosphere as the people are politer and better mannered. e.g in football I made a bad tackle and they hit me for it, in rugby I made a bad tackle and they got up without whining on the floor for hours I apologised we carried on with the game and afterwards shook hands and bought each other a drink.

[@TheOlliehill]

@swifta123 I said that you were feeding the stereotype that all footballers are idiots and you replied saying that I was making rugby players look like idiots. Thats when I said that you were bassically using the "i know you are but what am I" come back. I thought that was pretty obvious... You are lowering the average intelligence of this planet significantly and you do not deserve to call yourself a Tottenham fan.

[@messiahsplayland]

@TheOlliehill I said you'd be doing the same for not understanding what I said and yet again you still don't understand what I was trying to tell you. If you're not going to scroll through it then it would be pointless trying to prove me wrong since you wouldn't see it and your argument would be useless until proven, its just common sense! Where's the "I know what you are but what am I"? If you can't understand what someone has written then don't reply unless you're asking simple...

[@TheOlliehill]

@swifta123 mate you need to add some context to your comments, just saying "i do" means nothing at all. Regardless I assume you are arguing some point that footballer's are fitter than rugby players to which I will redirect you to my previous comments and keep reitterating them. If you disagree after that then you believe what you want but it will just be adding to the stereotype that all footballers are idiotic chavs. you might want to read over your comments before posting them too.

[@rb3883]

@wbajrj Whose fault is that though, the football players, or the governing body that enforce refereeing standards? It's nothing to do with the players themselves, we've all seen how Rugby players behave off the pitch, picking fights on nights outs, cheating on their (royal) wives, jumping off boats before all downing a pint of piss. Great credit to this ref though, i'd love to see him put Wayne Rooney in his place!

[@martyspark1]

Hate people saying people footballers couldnt take a hit at rugby. I play a very high level of rugby and i find it pathetic people comparing two sports that are totally different. Football is for lean technical athletes. Rugby is more built technical athletes. Yes there are divers but we cant simply say one sport is pathetic because of what we see on tv. I played in a football game lately and it is totally different and is still a mans game. Grow up guys

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 The prop... Obviously! you are mistaking size for lack of fitness which is just moronic. watch an entire rugby match and an entire football match and tell me honestly that you think rugby players aren't all round fitter and better athletes. Also the fact that a goalie has to do the same fitness training as other footballers is not a good arguement as no footballer trains as hard as any rugby player... TBC

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 how is it that your arguement of "footy players are fitter end of" is enough to keep you convinced when i have thrown so many facts that prove you wrong it's just rediculous. It's not my opinion that they are fitter it's a fact. Look at say a prop against a goalkeeper the "least" fit of all of our positions. Props win hands down every time. Then look at say a flanker against any other position, (they are still one of the big guys in the scrums). it's just not a comparison.

[@B7JONES]

totally biased rugby fans, I'm from wales , i do play both but the fact is theres a lot more pressure,skill,mind,consistency, excitement,fitness , strength(not so much) ,aggressive(not so much) in football but in rugby you got to be stronger , aggressive , not so much fitness as in football , and not much skill , in my opinion football is the harder sport, and as you can see theres a lot more fans, a lot more, whole of china supports football for god sake

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 As for football being better than rugby because of attendance thats utter horse shit. Football is a popular sport because its something anybody can do, rugby is less popular because either people never try it through fear of being hit hard or they do try and don't like being hit hard. Football is a much more accessible sport that anyone can play. Rugby is the most popular sport in many countries does that mean that in those countries football is a worse sport...? obviously not.

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 that is utter bollocks, those props with the big bellies are fitter than any footballer, they run constantly through rugby matches and when they're not running they are exerting huge amounts of energy in rucks, mauls and scrums. They go through rigerous training to keep at peak levels of fitness whilst footballerswalk around for half of a match waiting for the ball to come to them.

[@Xbox360customUK]

@T3AMThree I get pissed off by people like you, I love sports I play both rugby and football for my local teams and when someone like you comes along and says one requires more skill than the other, it fucks me off. They both require tonnes of skill, tactics and strength. And of course there are tactics involved in football! Do you think they just run around aimlessly?...Defenders have to keep their formation...strikers have to make runs... midfielders have to play through balls to the forwards

[@messiahsplayland]

@aahabhbhhj But thats only if its 2 random teams, however when its like Real Madrid vs Barcelona then no one could ever get bored because they run nonstop. Rugby players have best stamina but football is also tiring because they also have to hit their head on the ball as hard as possible which is very dangerous. Also a player like the (Original Brazilian) Ronaldo had tremendous strength, speed and stamina all those three things better than most sports men.

[@AndrewT12349876]

@swifta123 I apologise for my comment, I only read your comment rather than spending more of my time looking through the whole conversation, I understand why you were angry at this gentleman and I do believe, through his language over a computer screen that he is a disgrace to the game of rugby, once again I apologise.

[@rb3883]

I'm not saying one is better behaved than the other, you're probably right, footballers are worse off the pitch too, i'm just placing the superior on pitch behavior of Rugby players with the refs rather than the players themselves. BTW, being a doorman I bet you didn't mind selling them the coke tho! (only kidding).

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 Continued... I have watched Man UTD in training a few times at the cliff and i have taken part in and watched London Wasps training sessions so i feel in a quite unique position to assure you that football training is NOT the same as rugby training and is extremely sub-standard in comparison.

[@YourTheConvicts]

@bandiboi100 you clearly don't have a clue. Go to a premiership final or an international match, you talk about passion but at least we can fill twikenham on an England match day, the noise is unreal. And fitness wise...the props may look big but they do 5x as much work as a CB or ST. That's just mine and thousands of other peoples opinions!

[@Bhhsboy1]

There really is no need for a debate in this, clearly there are people in wales who call football soccer, a la Nigel Owen. Rugby has often been called football in wales, after all it is a code of football. People say they live in Wales or they live in the valleys so they must be right, right?

[@Konformation07]

Always disregard the ref. He's usually off his head anyway. Whenever I play I never try to talk to him and keep my distance from him. There is no benefit in speaking to the ref. His decision is usually final so there is no point in shouting for calls because he may see it and not call it as a point.

[@zacker2000]

@bandiboi100 'smart'? no no no. Cheating in a game where the better man is suppose to win is despicable. I guess that is were football and rugby differ the most, playing honorably, winning by rules and not cheap faking. Football is for boys, rugby for men. That is the undeniable truth.

[@TEGZONE]

@swifta123 No rugby is more tactical. Anyone can play football it really easy and simple the only thing you need to get your head around is offside. Rugby however you need to know when to go back and you can only pass back which a lot of people find difficult to do at first.

[@credman10]

i wish football/soccer players had this same respect for the ref. the game would be so much more interesting as opposed to what it is now; begging for set pieces every time someone tackles and not getting up til you get the free kick/penatly. the sport has lost it's edge

[@TheMikeyReilly]

I was looking through philosophical poetry lectures combined with calculus and brain surgery, and stumbled across it.

[@mocyoung]

In this situation though, he's entirely correct to use a simple unamibiguous word from a Native Welsh speaker to a South African - plus if he'd said "this is not football" he would have been wrong! Plus a lot of us Taffs call the round ball game "soccer"...

[@lardonirdesco]

I don't know about that. Its hard to appreciate a sport were players cover themselves in padding and protective equipment only to spend more time on the sidelines than on the field. At least Rugby players go non-stop for 80 minutes.

[@TheOlliehill]

@swifta123 Also saying that rugby players are the same as footballers i.e. idiotic chavs doesn't really work. Stereotypically rugby players are the exact opposite. Come on mate you can deo better than the old "I know you are but what am I" defense.

[@VSLFC6]

People bigging up rugby are bigging up the wrong code. Rugby Union is woeful, it's barely a sport. It's slow, uneventful and predictable. The aim of the game is to score tries, yet nobody tries to do it and games regularly go 'try-less'. Pathetic.

[@petetendo64]

@pbe1031 "I don't know think we have met before, but I'm the Referee on this field, not you. Stick to your job and I'll do mine. If I hear you shouting for anything again, I am going to be penalising you. This is not soccer, is that clear?"

[@oDannnYx]

@KevDxB to take the piss out of it.. a lot of welsh people hate football, because their main sport is more rugby

[@-pprct-]

'I don't think we've met before but I'm the referee on this field, not you. Stick to your job and I will do mine. If I hear you shouting for anything again I'm going to be penalising you. This is not soccer' holy words

[@A1phawolf]

I do like the respect the refs get in rugby. But it's funny how aggressive the players are, then a scrawny refs tell them off and they go all quiet even tho they could nail him with one arm behind their back lol

[@messiahsplayland]

@wo0dy1 Not all footballers dive. When does Messi ever dive? Whenn did Henry or the Brazil Ronaldo dive? Never they ran 90 mins working hard all the time like Cristiano Ronaldo started doing when he quit diving.

[@messiahsplayland]

@TheOlliehill Well you'd be proving the same for rugby players because afterwards corrected my comment and I made it clear to that other user that rugby players have the top stamina in sport just as midfielders do in football.

[@TheOlliehill]

@bandiboi100 i have nothing against football i like it. Although i do dislike the diving thats not as bad as the abuse they give the refs. They should all just go on strike till they get more power and respect.

[@messiahsplayland]

@TEGZONE True but football is harder to play because you have to dribble the ball with your feet but I respect you becuase you replied normally unlike the other guy who kept swearing at me. :)

[@TheOlliehill]

@Niiikh23 although this may well be true, football was football before rugby was rugby football. William Webb ellis picked up a football and ran with it. He didn't pick up a soccer ball and run with it.

[@morphybum]

OK, so what we have is: American Football, Association Football, and Rugby Football. Many Welsh people call association football 'soccer' because they regard 'rugby football' as the only true 'football'.

[@messiahsplayland]

@aahabhbhhj Are you kidding me? I love boxing but everyone says its dieying look out how poor the heavyweight division is. Footballs the most popular sport in the world. Rugby is good though.

[@bertrand391]

shouldn't be that way in 'soccer' either ... quite lame comment from the referee.

[@xMrBumBleBeex]

lol what a legend they should be more refs like this but in football as well Saying that it would be funny if the player turned round and said 'your kidding right? oh sorry wrong pitch'

[@kahuna3901]

that's the way to deal with players that are chopsy and flamboyant when they are "fouled", when will football referee's start emulating this sort of refereeing style

[@gullmead]

that is what they need in football, a ref to do that! all players run at the ref he gives them all yellow cards and says WHOS THE REF NOW? yeah get in there

[@AP-98]

Referees in rugby are so much more better than football referees...

[@TEGZONE]

@rusteeey Rugby players are fitter, I guess you have never played rugby -_-. I have played both and Rugby is defiantly more physical than football.

[@youtubister]

:) Now, if only football (referees) would adopt the same approach. Uuhhh, ain't gonna happen, we mustn't upset the players. Or the 'fans'. Lahdehdah.

[@NamelessHill]

@bandiboi100 oh they only pretend to cry to win games? that's even more honourable..not that just shows that football's even shitter than i thought

[@petelosuaniu]

"This is not soccer, is that clear?" - lol in other words: "if you want to shriek like a bloody pansy, go play soccer"

[@FrancescoScotti00]

Soccer is a football game: Soccer football, Rugby football, American football, Gaelic footbal, Australian football...