Reflect Pathfinder - Arctic Armour Poison | Maps With 0 Active Skills! | KallTorak Path of Exile 2

[@collapsiblechair9112]

scaling cold, spell and elemental damage as well as pathing to the poison and crit nodes will give the best damage. As another commenter suggests, chaos damage won't do much for Arctic Armour poison scaling.

[@KallTorak]

Good to know about chaos damage, the life of a new player is wasting a bunch of currency :). Want to try this build on a blood mage at some point, crit def seems like the play.

[@hadrielstriker]

Chaos scaling will only work if u convert all the cold damage to chaos with the use of the Original Sin unique ring

[@InnerExile_92]

I was JUST about to come comment this lol

[@InnerExile_92]

@@hadrielstriker THIS would be dope imo

[@ogar0]

almost every ailment build does so by scaling crit

[@yaroslavstarchenko4358]

For a thorns enjoyer like me "Hey guys, KallTorak here" is like an intro to a new season of a favorite tv-series

[@InnerExile_92]

Thank you for a cool idea! I like this and you gave me some concepts to test! Will def mention ya in the description if I make anything cool!

[@Kenelius77]

I like this type of build, good job man !

[@MisoxShiru]

This is such a cool build. I love it! Also, sadly chaos damage does not scale poisons. If your initial hit was chaos damage (like pconc) then chaos damage increases would increase the initial hit and give you more poison magnitude but unfortunately increases to chaos damage never scales poison damage directly. The only way to increase poison damage magnitude after the initial hit is through poison and ailment magnitude or reducing resistances and wither.

[@smasm7070]

wasnt expecting to see a corpsewade build with even less steps

[@0osk]

This is the type of build that always excites me. I love dumb weird interactions and play styles, theyre way more interesting than boring meta chasing builds.

[@drask1988]

this is the perfect mix of my favourite arpg mechanics: poison prolif and reflect

[@felinechat874]

Reminds me of Cast when Stunned (CwS) Chieftain in PoE 1! It’s just this is poison. Love it!

[@levifoote7786]

This is the coolest build ive seen yet hahaha

[@smichal52]

Btw Archmage does work with this and gives a LOT of damage. I play a poison archmage build myself with plaguefinger, and I am using arctic armor cause I found it helps prevent monsters ganking up on me and stunlocking me to death :)

[@brunomeyer5352]

Consider leveling your alts with Pillar of the Caged god. You can easily do "just the pathing nodes" and still be relevant through pure stats during the whole campaign (if you have a couple gloves/rings with flat dmg it's way better too)

[@WhatIfTheories]

Was looking for something like this for gemling because I want to mana stack MoM and just have a minimum spell use so all of mana is my EHP. I love cold but wanted to go more chaos and this could be it to tinker with. Then of course you get some added spell dmg from being a mana stacker and not needing archmage. I think I'd like to work in Blasphemy though and add in some more chaos spell dots. Love your amazing build ideas.

[@yaroslavstarchenko4358]

I think that Titan may be interesting base for wacky builds like this one. It will require more pathing, ofc, but the value of Hulking Form is incredible for getting "lots of everything", plus you don't really seem to need to travel to all those "+1 max poison" nodes. I am also running poison pathfinder now as Decompose lawnmower and thinking about throwing different things in it with use of Oroginal Sin ring. But your take on using those unique gloves is very interesting, if it indeed scales 100% correctly from both elements(cold hitting harder from cold dmg% and poison hitting harder from chaos%) then it opens a realm of interesting possibilities. I am not sure if poison is buffed in your case tho, from all I know about it you need to boost original hit that inflicts poison. So if you make over 9000 physical hit that inflicts poison then none of your additional chaos dmg % is calculated anywhere. Or so I thought, I am really not that smart :D

[@Phillz91]

Perhaps this interaction is different somehow, but in most other cases poison doesn't scale at all with increased chaos nodes unless the initial hit does the chaos damage (thus increasing the initial chaos hit the poison then scales from). Unless the gloves are allowing it to scale due to the 'all hits'. Wonder if this would work on a Chayula monk with the extra chaos damage node

[@KallTorak]

Wouldn't surprise me if it wasnt working. So many weird interactions and its hard to test them without target dummies. Anytime I amped chaos damage it never felt impactful, but hard to tell when most enemies are dying in one second either way. Arctic armour damage was always most important.

[@wilcuss]

This is correct. Chaos dmg can make the initial hit stronger, which can buff the poison base dmg. As physical and chaos dmg can inflict poison. But unlike poe1, DoTs dont scale with the increased/more dmg nodes of their type. Only magnitude scales it

[@KallTorak]

@wilcuss thank you!

[@Hukas01]

Cool build. Will check magma barrier with this. Playing blood mage and want to try this with bleed build.

[@gulagmerchant8356]

lmk how it goes :o

[@blackflytr]

this looks kinda fun and not so expensive :-) have to try, keep your videos like this!

[@Catzillator]

I have a stomping bloodmage who I am not very happy about how active she has to be. may be I will take this inspiration and push her... Than you for the build.

[@annotated4769]

Probably my fav build so far. Especially considering ggg fucked up Early Access build variety and skills, been rough.

[@KrummySkill]

Holy shit this looks amazing. I'm definitely going to try this and maybe use a comet for single target. I wonder if a chayula monk would work for this.

[@alphonserobichut5613]

Have you tried adding the unique boots that use decompose when you step on a dead body ?

[@Ektos0900]

Kal torak sanity check, but in other news this is really hype

[@TeamBilly]

Maybe adding in the frozen concoctions would be a good option for enemies that don't melee?

[@Stonewarior]

niiiice. i am a true enjoyer of the passive playstyle or very tanky characters. Therefore my hopes is that GGG recognizes this and supports it further. idk if its from thorns cast on block or what ever else. i just like the feeling when i see the enemies melt without me doing nothing xD.

[@YakultLitro]

maybe 1 of the remaining classes will be the tanky one.

[@KallTorak]

Yeah, I'm not worried about the future for thorns. We are missing so many weapon and armor types, skill gems, support gems, and different classes. There is most certainly a lot of support coming for thorns down the line. The fact that reflect builds work this well already just has me even more excited for future content patches :)

[@looftynoodle5831]

i hope the warrior 3rd ascendency type is focused in thorns.

[@Stonewarior]

@@looftynoodle5831 or maybe the crussader (paladin klass) would be cool to have a aura support that is tanky and dishes out pasive dmg.

[@brunomeyer5352]

@@YakultLitro Just based on current nodes placement, i'd say the druid and templar might be on the left, and they have access to huge amount of max res, full 90% isn't hard to get i think. They might be the best class for that kind of build, with block, probably.

[@jamesdoes1198]

what do you think of stacking Evasion and using the combo of Ghost Dance and Wind Dancer for survivability?

[@young_herc]

Could you try Three Dragons (Ice then ignites) and stack ailment magnitude and duration (to stack big ignites on top of poisons)

[@bappo2693]

By slow and strategic gameplay, they always implied this right here 😄

[@oceanicdrop]

Would bleed from that unique quarterstaff work with wind dancer or armor?

[@whateverppl1229]

cool to see another 0 button build, though the other one does all content. (spark on shock + arctic armor to shock enemies, the wep to proc shock and gloves to double proc) A shame thorns is bad, was cool to see the attempts though. and he made arctic shock but i dont recall what item

[@lumberjackgamins7966]

you could prob put cannibalism on grim feast, corpse wader boots also add poison, i have a hexblast poison build, contagion to spread more with the 2x curse's gems in blasphemy ( temporal chains and despair, dark effigy with corrosion and bursting plague, on the boots control destruction magnified effect, Comorbity and deadly poison, the cloud it runs in mobs chain kills pretty fast if you want boss damage is decent aswell, poison stacks test it out with this build have a play

[@Hwanbright]

I've been really struggling to come up with a unique Chronomancer build that isn't just a generic archmage but with timefreeze. I noticed the recoup bonuses Chronomancer has and was wondering if you think a recoup life + thorns build on Chronomancer could be viable?

[@try2fly]

Respect.

[@doomman4244]

Would this work with 'Collapsing Horizon' to get +5 all elemental skills and then using 'Hand of Chayula' for movement and applying curses? In the 'Hand of Chayula' gem you could slot 'Energy Barrier' to begin ES regen when you get stunned, which I imagine happens quite often considering you want to get hit as much as possible (you could also make your stun threshold low to proc more often. Then the Cherry on Top you can use 'Prayers for Rain Keth Raiment' body armour to make your energy shield recharge constantly active, and then scale recharge rate. Not sure how much ES this would take away from the build but if the idea is to be hit as often as possible then this might work.

[@JoshuaIsTheMessiah]

I'm running corpswade right now, and i thought hmm if i use those gloves with Archmage what happens? Decompose gets a mana cost 😅

[@wolfcam4462]

Dude try this on Titan with the almost 0 cooldown ghost dance tech, since you're using the herald to prolif poison anyway, you might as well get extra beef with ascendancy

[@langhxs]

chaos does not scale poison damage, it only scales the initial hit ONLY IF the initial damage contains Chaos damage, and only 20% of the Chaos part of the initial damage is scaled.

[@looftynoodle5831]

Can you try fire thorns and avatar of fire?

[@TheGreenDucks]

I'm about at my wits end with my Chronomancer. I've tried just about every build I can to make use of the chronomancers ascendancies strengths. Everything leads back to just being a lesser stormweaver. Might try this build + corpsewaders, temp chains and use the chrono's apex of the moment and recoup. How'd you think that would fair?

[@gulagmerchant8356]

i made this build and its awesome my guy hahaha i run enfeeble tho n not temp chains to just lower the dmg of monsters. temp chains slows down monsters trying to hit u which the whole point of the build is to be hit

[@TheGreenDucks]

@@gulagmerchant8356 Sweet! Good to know I won't be wasting my time with it if you're saying it's great! How did you get around the non-melee enemies? Or are you just suffering it?

[@gulagmerchant8356]

@@TheGreenDucks i use a shield! getting hit while raising shield procs the poison too. tho i lose out like 2/3 lvls for arctic armour from the focus.

[@TASLightnindog]

How does resonating strike and Magma Barrier solve the problem of not getting melee attacked? I’m running the magma barrier build and having issues on bosses that only have one mechanic that do any hits that aren’t AoE spells

[@KallTorak]

@@TASLightnindog magma barrier can proc off projectiles.

[@brianberquist2976]

Increased chaos damage will not increase your poison damage in 2. Poison only cares about the hit, so the best way to scale damage would be cold damage.

[@Loreweavver]

Seems like this build really wants to wear corpse tread boots.

[@wrathfulsenzo]

how does original sin play into the build if your going chaos build it seems ideal

[@miklaz1199]

Isnt the chance to poison an enemy reduced by ailment theresholds? I mean, getting 100% chance to poison doesnt make you to always poison. Im wrong?

[@NERDPotion]

Cannot remember the name of them but add the boots that explode corpses into poison clouds as you walk :P

[@kamlikasura938]

great Idea. did u switch into the build or lvl with it?

[@KallTorak]

Swap, this character I've had for a bit now

[@kamlikasura938]

@@KallTorak sooo at wich lvl does it become playable u think?

[@MrFiremask]

Doesnt the herald of plague radius and the radius from ascendancy stack?

[@KallTorak]

It's a tooltip bug, they dont actually stack.

[@curveofsound]

So throw in the corpsewaders and call it a day

[@lordthundyr894]

Is this a strictly endgame build, or is there a way to make it struggle along during the campaign? I've thought about something like this, but wondered whether Artic Armour's "stage system" would largely prevent it being viable as a playthrough-viable concept, and yeah, thorns isn't really good enough at any stage of the game. If you're hitting end game with some other build and then doing a respec into this, well, that's a bit lacklustre, right?

[@XeroJin84]

this isn't a min/max build. It's just to have fun also to give people ideas how a skill can be utilized for their own build too.

[@andrewearlwu554]

Corpsewade Boots.

[@kernergades]

Could bleed work with thorns??

[@Flakzor123]

Lol I did not realise that herald of plague completely overshadows on of the pathfinder ascendancy nodes, I wonder if there is some sort of hidden stacking going on there but I would guess not. I can't remember which creator did a crit poisonous conconction build but I do recall that he deliberately stayed away from all the "+1 poison but less duration" nodes because he wanted a long duration on the poisons from his crits as he was nowhere near critcapped. On a serious note it must be painful to stay away from all that evasion scaling you could do on a ranger which prompts the questions: does a "block" count as a hit for the purpose of triggering arctic armor and will "active block" force you to take an otherwise evaded attack on the shield? (I might test this on my gemling) Edit: Yes active block sets evasion to 0.

[@KallTorak]

Main reason I went pathfinder was hoping they would stack for giga radius. Feels bad. Makes sense honestly about the +1 poison after all my testing. Based off the feedback I'm getting, blood mage seems like the play with some crit focus. Active block does trigger Arctic armor. Resonating shield is great for walking around and being extra tanky while taking the physical hits. Not sure about how that interacts with evasion though

[@Flakzor123]

@@KallTorak well I just tested in game and the character sheet lists evasion as 0% when you raise the shield.

[@volcelectomy]

@@KallTorak There are a few cases like this. I recently decided to cut spreading shocks from one of my builds because it was such a huge point investment to path to it, but it only spreads in a 1.5m radius while the coursing current support spreads to 2.5m. I was also hoping they'd stack areas and/or spread chance (both are 50%), but it didn't seem like it, and I ultimately felt that the skill points were worth a lot more than the socket. The tradeoff is really even worse for contagious contamination, too, since you can't go past 5 sockets but you can always get a little more spirit.

[@lieandsmile5084]

Cool :)

[@DrBx3]

Please dont try temporal chain, it slows enemy attack speed. Maybe you could add it to second slot for bossing

[@KallTorak]

Good points!

[@smarmypapsmears634]

I'm almost positive building chaos damage doesn't do anything for this build, the math for poisons works differently than poe1

[@KallTorak]

Yeah, seems to be the case. Feels bad

[@interestedincphpsqlmysql4222]

Non melee rare enemies (vaal factory maps have lots of those annoying enemies shots bolts of lightning but does not activate reflect) with temporal bubble most annoying to deal with warrior you literally have no choice but to use hammer of gods and hope it will not bounce around and stand under hammer. You cant use magma shield, you cant use perfect strike.. sunder does not bring enough damage and uses much HP / mana . Customization in this game as a warrior joke.. you literally have 1 choice even in passive everyone builds same thing with minor alterations. I am glad to see other classes not suffering from same thing.

[@nmorgan350z]

run corpsewade for shoes

[@QanarIsDelirious]

heavy drinker ? give yourself alot of es regen from life flasks and make them permanent flasks ... your sustain looked like its struggeling a bit

[@peck759]

Really creative build! I am considering using Original Sin instead of the unique glove in your setup, gives me some great ideas for my AoC. Just one question - Is it possible to run Corrosion instead of Cold Mastery on Arctic Armour and somehow use Scavenged Plating to enable thorns (since SP is a major source of flat thorns)? Not a thorns expert so not sure how to scale it up from there (bleed + Beetlebite Velour Shoes?), but maybe it might be able to stack 2x poison per reflect (one from AA and another from thorns) and make up for the lack of 1 more level on AA? With the above setup, thorns provides pure physical damage (not sure whether leech works with thorns) and AA provides pure chaos damage, both contributes to poison magnitude naturally. AoC ascendancy is based around gaining extra chaos damage + double chaos res (which makes a single well-rolled Original Sin almost cap out our chaos res) on top of giving us free stuff to pick up to replenish life/mana/dmg buff while also starting off in the middle of your passive skill tree. One problem I do foresee is we would need ~200 int/str for max AA/SP.

[@socie01]

Hey Kall, you could add another spirit gem to your setup which would give you another retaliation attack on being hit. It’s called Winddancer. Winddancers 2. effect, which is called gale force is a kind of nova with knockback. On my Ranger that’s crit build with herald of ice. Often when triggering Galeforce my whole screen just goes boom like one of those herald of ice screen explosions. I was impressed. If you have no evasion in your setup this one would not amount to machbar itself and could just be seen as another on hit trigger effects.

[@brunomeyer5352]

Yup, the only "downside" is the 1 second cooldown ! You can most likely base a build on this alone. With good AoE investment, maybe you can do something else than herald chaining, if you want to avoid it.

[@socie01]

@ the 1 second cooldown gets reduced with skill level and the evasion buff stacks do influence the gale force aoe dmg and knockback. I’m using wind dance supported by Blind and Maim. So everytime it triggers enemies are blinded, which adds zu me not being hit, and maimed, which reduced enemy speed and adds to me hitting enemies, and also are knocked back so they have to move up close again. The cold dmg comes from gear (added cold to attack) for herald of ice.

[@brunomeyer5352]

@@socie01 yeah I have the same, gale force and chaining herald too, with maim and blind. Tho, I have to say, I never see any blind, they just explode.

[@juancok-lc1ht]

This is too risky

[@KallTorak]

Welcome to reflect builds, dont play them if you dont like the risk :)

[@patrykolszewski593]

damn we need new 3 subclasses and druid and that build can be rly rly strong

[@graphz07]

Wonder if you can use original sin ring get fire around you helmet to fully passively poison things around you