'Reflections' with FORG1VEN (2nd appearance)

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Thooorin

Thooorin

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@jodalar13425
@jodalar13425 9 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or there is a constant sadness surrounding the video.First time i've seen THoorin and Forgiven so emotional.Best Reflections video ever by the way , i love Forgiven and THoorin
@charlyf9980
@charlyf9980 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was really moving at some points, forgiven really opened himself i think. And i don't see how you can hate this guy after seing this.
@jodalar13425
@jodalar13425 9 жыл бұрын
charly f If it was another guy i would be sceptical, but i am 110% when Forgiven says something that he means it(wether he is wrong or right)
@Giffy4evah
@Giffy4evah 9 жыл бұрын
+jodalar13425 yeah, I really wish Forg1ven the best, and you can clearly see that Thoorin wants the same. I hope Forg1ven finds his way back to league, and reks some bot lanes again, maybe NA? Would be fantastic for TSM to get a real ADC ;) Anyways I hope he cheers up, he deserves more, and I hope this fuckin community gives him some slack.
@JonaJfgh
@JonaJfgh 9 жыл бұрын
+jodalar13425 put some yung lean on the background and its perfect
@TheDevildeclan
@TheDevildeclan 9 жыл бұрын
+Young Jona sadboys 2001
@erikvm2893
@erikvm2893 9 жыл бұрын
Time line of topics discussed: 00:00 Intro 00:21 Options after S4 Worlds 03:31 Joining SK 04:49 Did he want nRated kicked? 07:25 Problems in SK 12:10 Coaching 13:00 SK getting rid of FORG1VEN 17:08 Restrictions he puts on himself 19:21 Freeze not joining SK, related to FORG1VEN's position 25:03 EU teams in scrims and LCS 30:25 Not getting to carry Gambit, contrasted with SK 39:30 Meta of ADC not being able to carry 41:49 Will he ever be the full carry again? 43:26 Rekkles 48:06 Challenging people to ban his champions 51:44 People not letting him 2v2 bot 56:48 Refusing to play Kalista 58:47 Sivir 1:00:35 FORG1VEN's reputation as having attitude issues 1:03:52 Being ranked lower than Hjarnan etc. 1:06:45 Does he look back fondly on his times in CW and SK now? 1:09:15 Will ADC ever be the most important role? 1:11:15 Facing international bot lanes 1:12:47 Going to NA 1:13:43 Sticking around to win a la Doublelift 1:18:59 Behaviour in solo queue 1:23:22 Sports psychologist 1:24:40 Hypothetical: What if Monte coached him? 1:25:54 Thinking he owes other people 1:28:58 LCS players who only play as a job 1:31:04 Playing with Edward 1:35:03 HotS and other games 1:39:12 Streaming and merchandising 1:40:35 Top pros trying hard to get to the top of soloq 1:42:13 Making a team based around him 1:44:40 Final words
@PetrikowG
@PetrikowG 9 жыл бұрын
FORG1VEN sounds very frustrated and sad. I really wish the best for him. If Gambit keeps him and achieve success then I hope it will cheer him up. At the same time, I think there are things he can work on, which he is blind to. Ultimately I just hope someone as driven as him can achieve his goal at being the best at what he enjoys, to some extent, if only so that he can feel fulfilled and happy.
@Sorenthaz
@Sorenthaz 9 жыл бұрын
+PetrikowG I'd probably feel very frustrated too if I had to dance around Riot's toxicity BS and deal with a bunch of organizations that don't treat their players properly.
@nonoyeayea4770
@nonoyeayea4770 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah like that passionate determined man who charging forward valiantly, but because of his helmet, he blinded to what is holding him back. I hope he finds his way to greatness that is tangible.
@fishleaf18
@fishleaf18 9 жыл бұрын
Great player, and I like how he shows his thoughts/personality. I hope he continues in League
@georgetsapogas
@georgetsapogas 9 жыл бұрын
+Temp Name i think thats a bit exagerated but yeah we speak like he does
@ΙωσηφΤερζης-γ3λ
@ΙωσηφΤερζης-γ3λ 9 жыл бұрын
dam man this interview hit me right in the feels...always loved and always gonna love forg1ven...this world is just too little for your greatness.
@AzureusGR
@AzureusGR 9 жыл бұрын
+Sifaklas Terzis I guess you forgot that after your handshake he never won a game with SK again, and you never won a ranked game with your main :)))))))
@ΙωσηφΤερζης-γ3λ
@ΙωσηφΤερζης-γ3λ 9 жыл бұрын
+Kaizen lol stfu man...let me cry alone..
@lajki4532
@lajki4532 9 жыл бұрын
dis gonna be good
@theodorosvlachos9173
@theodorosvlachos9173 9 жыл бұрын
imgur.com/gallery/NnoGhN1
@chillmegachill
@chillmegachill 9 жыл бұрын
Forg1ven is a god. He just charity giving people jobs, and losing his own. Like a fucking god.
@FanEverton
@FanEverton 9 жыл бұрын
Forg1ven joined SK, finished 1st spring split. After Forg1ven left SK, SK relegated. That is how strong Forg1ven is. I watched him when he was in challenger series and see him carry the team to LCS. It is so sad, i really hope that a good team picks him up and he stays happy there.
@TCGdp
@TCGdp 9 жыл бұрын
+FanEverton I think it's unfair to contextualize it this way. SK finished third in the previous split without Forg1ven, I think their poor finish this season should be attributed to the other four players not playing as well as the previous split. Forg1vens absence definitely had an impact on the team's performance, but it wasn't necessarily his leave that lead to SK's fall from grace.
@vloum8577
@vloum8577 9 жыл бұрын
SK gets rid of forg1ven,sk got demoted
@Mrosijek1988
@Mrosijek1988 9 жыл бұрын
+Nalu Dragneel GMB got forg1ven, GMB got demoted, I'm just sayin...
@vloum8577
@vloum8577 9 жыл бұрын
+Lega how did GMB got demoted when they will play in 2016 spring split?
@72fja
@72fja 9 жыл бұрын
+Lega They didn't get demoted, they had to play in the promotion tournament after playing their last week and the tiebreaker without their adc. And they still smashed Mousports.
@Mrosijek1988
@Mrosijek1988 9 жыл бұрын
Nalu Dragneel Will Harvey Guazuru My apologies, they got into relegation...
@Yepmyaccount
@Yepmyaccount 9 жыл бұрын
+Lega Basically going from Challenger to Masters, so demoted.
@Zoelalip
@Zoelalip 9 жыл бұрын
So sad to see him be this down actually. Hope he finds the succes he deserves next season. Great reflections btw. 2 of my favourite league personas together can't go wrong.
@mbrx5jk4
@mbrx5jk4 9 жыл бұрын
One of the best Reflections. Truly a saddening thing to see Forg1ven seemingly defeated by the world of pro league. Almost saddening to see Thorin's reactions when he expects Forg1ven respond with some fire/zest and he is more ponient/thoughtful. Truly hope Forg1ven finds the fire again. One of my favourite pros. Would have loved to have seen him with a great team for a decent amount of time.
@MrZimono
@MrZimono 9 жыл бұрын
only 1:46:50 mins cmon
@TheCriticalLimit
@TheCriticalLimit 9 жыл бұрын
Best reflections interview by far!
@JohnyUnlimited
@JohnyUnlimited 9 жыл бұрын
Oh man i was really waitting for another interview with Forg1ven !!!!!!!! Everything he said is so true i see them from the same point of view. Hope the best for him and that will finally manage to play in a top 1 team after wrecking all adc players so many years in row . Nobody else achieved what forg1ven did as adc ...The 3 bans and 1st pick adc vs him is enough ... dont need to say anything more...Really hope the best for him !
@TheMuwatalli
@TheMuwatalli 9 жыл бұрын
thoorin getting fucking emotional never saw shit as real as this by him. great reflections.
@shurken01
@shurken01 9 жыл бұрын
+umneo thats gay
@NemesisBOTS
@NemesisBOTS 9 жыл бұрын
+Martín Fdez. - Lasarte I watched about 80% of the vid and saw points where FORG1VEN looked pretty sad but didn't see any of Thooorin getting sad, timestamp friend?
@TheMuwatalli
@TheMuwatalli 9 жыл бұрын
Team Ohka Music overall at the end of the vid you can see thorin empathy on his eyes as he admires forg1ven and he understands him.
@DJ-ov2it
@DJ-ov2it 7 жыл бұрын
Where in this video does thorin get emotional if you can recall it?
@Elvathar
@Elvathar 9 жыл бұрын
I really hope he continues since it's so rare that you see a guy with this much talent above anyone in a region.
@sFGCubyy
@sFGCubyy 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats with 100k subscribers Duncan, well freaking deserved
@QBmoshy
@QBmoshy 8 жыл бұрын
Damn, I know it's to early but can't wait for the third episode with Forg1ven.
@MrEagleWolfz
@MrEagleWolfz 9 жыл бұрын
by far
@goblinking6856
@goblinking6856 9 жыл бұрын
+MrEagleWolfz nice meme
@caviconpoder
@caviconpoder 9 жыл бұрын
by far the best reflections I've ever seen! Good good watch if you're a fan of esports
@milotighfield
@milotighfield 9 жыл бұрын
after this interview i got huge huge respect for F0RG1VEN. Really legit good guy. Seems like a good friend IRL
@TophewofMordor
@TophewofMordor 9 жыл бұрын
This was a great video man! Loved watching it. I feel for Forg1ven so much.
@jimmyjohnson9548
@jimmyjohnson9548 9 жыл бұрын
I have watched all the forgiven interviews and i have never seen him so broken.this guy needs to be put on a good team and a team that will work with him. He has the killer instinct that is so rare! I fucking Love this guy
@Torres540
@Torres540 9 жыл бұрын
Forgiven is giving his all in what ever he does in life. Even a fuc**** interview
@moomin96
@moomin96 9 жыл бұрын
Man, it makes me sad to see forg1ven this down. The ending is just so depressing. I hope that he gets back to where he once were and just kick everyone elses ass, but after seeing this it seems as if he is at the end of his career. No motivation, no future and all this frustration. One thing i don't get however is why he seems so indifferent to his situation. I had the impression that he actually cared a lot about winning, but he doesn't want to make any decision whatsoever to progress his career. Of course he might not get offers from other teams but he could at least try and make a change in gambit. Maybe he has just given up completely..
@jodalar13425
@jodalar13425 9 жыл бұрын
+Albin Strandroth I think that happened cause when the ''system'' found a guy which doesnt match its criteria they tried with everything they had to get him down in a way.Reddit-Riot-specific players.Its like he is ina constant 3vs 1 and from a point and on it gets completetly tiring and frustrating to try and be yourself in an enviroment that doesnt want u that way.My english are mediocre but i think u understand what i am trying to say
@moomin96
@moomin96 9 жыл бұрын
+jodalar13425 You mean that the criticism got to him eventually? It does seem so in this interview. But also, the meta is getting more and more boring. Tanks are constantly getting buffs, while adcs get nothing pretty much. Adcs can still carry, but their impact on the game is way lower than it used to be. I hope this will change so you can finally see which ad player is good instead of just seeing the same shit all over again.
@jodalar13425
@jodalar13425 9 жыл бұрын
Albin Strandroth Critisism is not easy to touch Forgiven.Mentally he is quite strong, but this time yes he seems ''broken'' in a way ,for that to happen many propably happened the banhammmer(personall isues which is very possible) team enviroment.EVentually even his unbreakable untill this point confidence
@QBmoshy
@QBmoshy 8 жыл бұрын
+Albin Strandroth Thoughts now? :D
@moomin96
@moomin96 8 жыл бұрын
+Moshy Mosh Easily the best western adc at the moment. Not as brutal of a player as with SK, but H2K is focusing more on the macro game(smart by them). I really like the new H2K. They have a really strong roster, and might be able to challange the koreans in the future. Forg1ven is back, boyz! :)
@Blackadderthefourth
@Blackadderthefourth 9 жыл бұрын
Very moving episode, I really wish FORG1VEN could find a team and make it to worlds
@LoldemortII
@LoldemortII 9 жыл бұрын
"They don't accept a second opinion. They don't accept anything" Riot everybody.
@minasmixalopoulos8143
@minasmixalopoulos8143 9 жыл бұрын
Its not a fucking coincidence that every single expert in LoL or e-sports in general consider this dude a beast in any game he plays.He is thats what u people should understand that he is working his ass of for results in every single team he plays and he tries every time to be the best in his role and he succeed that.Thats why guys like Thorin Montecristo even the former gravity coatch LS think that he can be in top 1 or 2 in the west.The only prob is that most of the guys in the LCS dont want him in their teams just because he is a pain in the ass for getting them to try-hard...I hope he finds success in a team and finally be in the top of the LCS and being at a world championship,IF ONLY HE COULD SPEAK CHINESE OR KOREAN HE WOULD BE PLAYING IN LCK AND LPL AND THIS IS TRUE AND YOU KNOW IT PEOPLE.
@kurjadva
@kurjadva 9 жыл бұрын
I liked this very much! Good luck Forgiven, hope you find the strength to overcome your burden :)
@Ribbedforherpleazur
@Ribbedforherpleazur 9 жыл бұрын
Was gonna post this on the reddit comment thread, but those scrubs will just bury it with downvotes by salty scrublords: Anyone who knows anything about journalism knows that Thorin does a great job managing these interviews. Straddling the line between rapport and not accepting answers that sound like bullshit is a hard thing to do, kudos.
@ath1ck
@ath1ck 9 жыл бұрын
need subtitles with forgiven, holy shit.
@TheUNDEFINDED
@TheUNDEFINDED 9 жыл бұрын
+ath1ck Or you should get ears ? I can fully understand him with no problems and no im not from greek :)
@peterenis3507
@peterenis3507 9 жыл бұрын
+ath1ck English is my 2nd language and i am 15 iand i understand him properly
@WhosGu7aa
@WhosGu7aa 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for this time line in the description, to help lazy & buzy people (like me) xD
@FanatecSystem
@FanatecSystem 9 жыл бұрын
do a video: WHO IS THORIN
@christoskarachalios4556
@christoskarachalios4556 9 жыл бұрын
+FanatecSystem there is a video! monte is interviewing thorin :) search it
@JesperSana
@JesperSana 9 жыл бұрын
+FanatecSystem Therussianbaker!!
@antofagastino002z
@antofagastino002z 9 жыл бұрын
forg1ven to renegades monte pls
@DaedlyEu
@DaedlyEu 9 жыл бұрын
+Andy nson #monteplz
@Uros941
@Uros941 9 жыл бұрын
+Andy nson Upvoting this because I know it''s gonna happend.
@Alex-nr4xb
@Alex-nr4xb 9 жыл бұрын
+Andy nson I'd love this, but they already have TWO ADCs. How's Forg1ven in top lane? lol
@DarkWartex
@DarkWartex 9 жыл бұрын
+Zero Strife Jebus left so not entirely impossible I'd say
@eiatos
@eiatos 9 жыл бұрын
+symystry I don't know if this is an NA only thing but every single upcoming support seems to do overly well only on thresh and morgana, I really hope she trains a bigger champion pool because that seems to be one of the bigger weaknesses of newer players
@nyimets
@nyimets 9 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this. Thx Thooorin
@firmlygraspi1
@firmlygraspi1 9 жыл бұрын
I remember everyone getting excited about Forg1ven joining SK, and I didn't really pay any attention to him on CW, so I was pretty curious to see if all the hype was worth it. Watching him play Graves and Lucian to what felt like their full potential was just amazing, it was such a rare treat to see a Western player dominate the competition and make these near perfect plays to get the maximum amount of damage out of his champ. It made me excited about the game again, and it makes it so much more tragic to see Riot's poor decision making regarding both the game and its players just totally ruin what made it that exciting to begin with.
@TheBlackm4ster
@TheBlackm4ster 8 жыл бұрын
Was really happy when i heard he is going to play for the new h2k. Hope he shows up again. Godgiven by far.
@jodalar13425
@jodalar13425 9 жыл бұрын
'At 16-38'' ''Unlucky next time it will be better HAHAHAHHAHA i laughed the shit out of it
@timur7381
@timur7381 9 жыл бұрын
Don't quit man. Nothing ever was achieved by quitting. Sad and great Reflections, it's amazing to see players get away from PR bullshit and open up.
@hagooba
@hagooba 9 жыл бұрын
man check when talked about first time playing vs foren teams it got emotional really i hope he finnd a good team
@Fouruvakind
@Fouruvakind 9 жыл бұрын
Did he say he got Global Elite in CS GO with only 28 games?
@DropOut002
@DropOut002 9 жыл бұрын
+Marty McFly he played 1.6 before, not that weird tbh
@darkfoxwillie
@darkfoxwillie 9 жыл бұрын
+Rasmus boström ye, pretty standar shit :^)
@Bluna261
@Bluna261 9 жыл бұрын
+Rasmus boström its weird because you can only reach Global with 31 Wins, everything below CANNOT rank up to Global, even if you win every match with 100 points, you need 31 wins to be able to uprank there
@pregabalinman
@pregabalinman 9 жыл бұрын
+Manuel Boehm you can get LEm if you win 10 first colibration games with dmgs or lems in your party.
@krzr547
@krzr547 9 жыл бұрын
+Manuel Boehm at this time you could
@gamotousername
@gamotousername 9 жыл бұрын
Τρελέ μου. Να θυμάσαι πως αξίζει να είσαι χαρούμενος. Είμαι σίγουρος πως φέρνεις χαρά στους δικούς σου ανθρώπους γ αυτό το λόγο σου αξίζει. Δυστυχώς πολλοί στην ηλικία μας φτάσαμε να σκεφτόμαστε έτσι, τόσο απαισιόδοξα....Αν σε νοιαζει βρες ένα τρόπο να επικοινωνήσεις μαζί μου..
@seanrichardson3485
@seanrichardson3485 9 жыл бұрын
This has really made me respect Forgiven quite a bit more...
@CxerRy96
@CxerRy96 9 жыл бұрын
i followed this guy very closely behind the scenes after he left copenhagen wolves last year...when i heard he signed for sk being a long time SK fan i was so happy to see it...results were amazing and i don't understand why they were so demotivated after playoffs cause i think 4th place is pretty good...however the organization has proven to be flawed (they just got relegated after all)...i want forgiven to continue playing league he is on another level from the other players and he needs a motivated team
@gekkebever
@gekkebever 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing interview, i normally don't really react to video's anymore. But i am a big (huge) fan of Forgiven, and i really hope he will keep playing. He is one of the most mature and sober people i know playing the game (and i follow it a lot). He is just right in many thinks. I really hope riot does change, because of now it's just not a good company. This is because they don't have the mature people who can and will look at league of legends like a professional 'sport'. They want to be the nice guys and proof gaming is a fun experience and that it should always be. But if you get to a state where you are so big that millions of people watch and play your game, then you should grow up. I hope riot changes. Forgiven please stay playing, and thorin keep it up ;)
@fasasplay
@fasasplay 9 жыл бұрын
blaming it all to riot is false, it has some reasons why riot did this , he was way to toxic as some players of sk even said, don't ask me where... all I want to say is that forgiven is not the holy one without mistaken
@Disturbed4Life3
@Disturbed4Life3 9 жыл бұрын
Jesus... When I saw thorin and forgiven I thought this episode was gonna be hilarious, turns out it was depressing as fuck and very eye opening on understanding who forgiven is. He really is admirable his love for the games and his passion to succeed is really admirable. Many of us and many pro players can learn a lot from him!
@SuperHeroR
@SuperHeroR 9 жыл бұрын
After two teams (possibly 3), it's hard to defend Forg1ven for not being toxic. But you can't deny his passion and work ethic.
@frost2369
@frost2369 9 жыл бұрын
Good interview Thooorin. Really Good.
@Vinslol
@Vinslol 9 жыл бұрын
Best Reflections episode ever.
@Corduroy-vp3cx
@Corduroy-vp3cx 9 жыл бұрын
FORG1VEN is my Soulmate. Thx for this interview!
@Abraham-pr7vf
@Abraham-pr7vf 9 жыл бұрын
dis one was unexpected holy moly
@marinaaaa2924
@marinaaaa2924 9 жыл бұрын
Μη μασάς! You're good at this!!!! Do what you want!!! But do it for you!!! Don't listen to anybody!!! Do what makes you feel good!!!! And don;t stop doing what you love for noone!!! We want you to keep playing!!! But we support you any choise you make!!!!
@lndy.
@lndy. 9 жыл бұрын
I just wanna give FORG1VEN a hug ;_;
@yootoobnewbie
@yootoobnewbie 9 жыл бұрын
Man of loyalty.
@Zorlatt123
@Zorlatt123 7 жыл бұрын
Still the best esports interview I've ever seen.
@LitlaCrank
@LitlaCrank 9 жыл бұрын
grats on the 100k subs thorin!
@Auseinandersetzung1
@Auseinandersetzung1 9 жыл бұрын
Best video you've ever made.
@xeiku7940
@xeiku7940 9 жыл бұрын
Its like I understand what hes saying and then he switches it up and im lost XD
@R2XC
@R2XC 9 жыл бұрын
"If smite [on baron in game 5 vs uol] happened, I don't think any course of history would be the same." Damn.
@NightOwl577
@NightOwl577 9 жыл бұрын
44:50 Thorin: So who's better than rekkles? Forgiven: Hjarnen and .. Thoring: (takes a sip of his water before losing his shit)
@Kennethmjr
@Kennethmjr 9 жыл бұрын
+TheSouliG make another rsmv noob
@NightOwl577
@NightOwl577 9 жыл бұрын
+theAusei Ohey there an old viewer? :p
@Kennethmjr
@Kennethmjr 9 жыл бұрын
nigga im the same person that commented like a month ago for u to make one haha R.I.P RS #EoC < #LoL
@Kennethmjr
@Kennethmjr 9 жыл бұрын
***** and yeah haha been w atchin you for a while, think we both quit same time
@NightOwl577
@NightOwl577 9 жыл бұрын
Ah very nice :) The reason I stopped was because it was WAY too time consuming to make an rsmv. It took you about a month to make a quality video and I had already quit playing the game for a year while I was still making video's so I just eventually moved on from it alltogether. Those days are over I'm fully in to lol now!
@Honking_Goose
@Honking_Goose 9 жыл бұрын
The rap god himself :^)
@KingHirst
@KingHirst 9 жыл бұрын
I felt like this was partly an interview and then thorin subtly trying to convince a young man not to give up on his dreams.
@CalippoShots
@CalippoShots 9 жыл бұрын
who is the player in sk that didn't like forg1ven?
@ExaltedXero
@ExaltedXero 9 жыл бұрын
+CalippoShots I would also like to know.
@xSwitchB1ade
@xSwitchB1ade 9 жыл бұрын
+CalippoShots Svenskeren.
@xSwitchB1ade
@xSwitchB1ade 9 жыл бұрын
+ExaltedXero Svenskeren
@3men2tio
@3men2tio 9 жыл бұрын
+CalippoShots Why Sven hates Forg1ven? I dont speak english well and is kinda hard understand Forg1ven..
@Uros941
@Uros941 9 жыл бұрын
+CalippoShots I think it was nRated, Forgiven said that he hopes nRated will retire soon and nRated heard that and so did the SKgaming stuff
@SubSonicEDM
@SubSonicEDM 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this video.
@ThornyMcPoop
@ThornyMcPoop 9 жыл бұрын
This feels like a Sith therapy session, with Thorin trying to convince FORG1VEN to stay on the Dark Side.
@danielhallam8340
@danielhallam8340 9 жыл бұрын
my body is ready!
@Kazutoromaji
@Kazutoromaji 9 жыл бұрын
I just realised, RNG Forg1ven would be such a good thing.
@Yiira
@Yiira 9 жыл бұрын
wtf happens to his face at 3:19 o.O
@PaulSauceBoss
@PaulSauceBoss 9 жыл бұрын
+oOVeikOo He turns into an anime character for like a second haha
@badabc213
@badabc213 9 жыл бұрын
+oOVeikOo his true form leaks through the cracks in his skin
@Nivek0
@Nivek0 9 жыл бұрын
+oOVeikOo Lmao wtf.
@Eva_xoxo
@Eva_xoxo 9 жыл бұрын
+oOVeikOo looks like hes gonna transform
@WuWuWuTangTangTang
@WuWuWuTangTangTang 9 жыл бұрын
+oOVeikOo reptilian
@bloodking35
@bloodking35 9 жыл бұрын
IM READY
@leroy_sopacua
@leroy_sopacua 9 жыл бұрын
Good ending but damn its sad to see him like that. I wish to see him perform in the LCS but if he cant see how he can be in a good spot then I then the only thing i could say is gl with your decisions. Because +Thooorin tried to get to his head and tell him not to give up and it didn't work in this interview.
@Eyeshield2B
@Eyeshield2B 9 жыл бұрын
Best Reflections ever, even if Im sad as hell since I pressed play...
@Mistheart
@Mistheart 9 жыл бұрын
Good thing he kept Svenskarens (and freddys) name secret :^)
@hatsuhioki9361
@hatsuhioki9361 9 жыл бұрын
I dont think this guy will leave Europe untill the day he dethrone Fnatic with some team
@tylerwitt8904
@tylerwitt8904 9 жыл бұрын
This Reflections was a really interesting watch. Reminded me of the DaZeD video, though this was much more disheartening
@yootoobnewbie
@yootoobnewbie 9 жыл бұрын
The FEELS.
@HunterEdmo
@HunterEdmo 9 жыл бұрын
Seems like Forgiven is accepting he is doing some things wrong but blindly following other's advice on remedying his problems. I hope he starts taking criticism just as a reminder to look inward. It seems like he's already a good teammate but can still improve on it. Above everything I hope he realizes that he has a responsibility to use the talents he has despite the constant difficulties and troubles he faces. He can claim his spot among the worlds best 10 or 5 league players ever but only if he had the hunger for it and is relentless in achieving this goal.
@AMX30BB
@AMX30BB 9 жыл бұрын
I can see a Forgiven stream overpass the 10k viewers mark....by far.
@Orianna360
@Orianna360 9 жыл бұрын
Forg1ven I BELIEVE IN YOU .,(
@liambailey3062
@liambailey3062 8 жыл бұрын
When he says that he was playing back and forth to Greece, he must be talking about the Visa problems that are now going on today
@mr.spooderman4912
@mr.spooderman4912 9 жыл бұрын
He should try to play for UOL if Gambit will stick to pinoy. i think UOL will have alot of good possible adc's there are : Forgiven / Pinoy , Freeze, Steelback, Jebus all of them would be an upgrade compared to VARDAGS IMO.
@sandropopovic4021
@sandropopovic4021 9 жыл бұрын
why didnt you talk about his ban?
@nm3724
@nm3724 9 жыл бұрын
It's here.
@Violacity
@Violacity 9 жыл бұрын
he watched yu gi oh. love this guy
@michaladamicka177
@michaladamicka177 9 жыл бұрын
Rly nice video.I used to dont like forgiven but nowadays i saw his interwiev and stuff and i believe that he is arogant but also what matter most for him are people.And i dont think he is arogant he just know he is the best and he is not afraid of saying it.It is sad that he lost his hope, because i think he is one of the last people who dont play for money(This is also reason why korea is so good because for koreans game is everything and money doesnt matter much).I think forgiven is really good people in real life and i found sympathy with him because i m like him in some sense(I play games because i want to win and thats what matter most for me thats reason why i never troll any game and also why i dont enjoy single player games) So to make some summary : I think forgiven is really good person and i trully like his attitude.Wish him the best. P.S:Thorin i looked at some of your videos for some time and i think that it will be awsome if you can maybe sometimes take guest from public to for example Summonerinside , because i almost every time want to tell my opinion and stuff plus you can speak with some known people and even for once it will be awsome BTW i know this can end up badly like guest will be some asshole but i dont think that at your videos looking many assholes THANKS for reading and sorry for my english
@TheBobsagetrulez
@TheBobsagetrulez 9 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Forg1ven on origen. Mithy/Forg1ven bot lane would be boss.
@mateuszczarnota95
@mateuszczarnota95 5 жыл бұрын
25:54 that "change" with greek accent is so adorable
@Kizoja
@Kizoja 9 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I missed or what, but I feel like they never addressed the issue that if he were to continue playing, it would be a huge gamble for whatever team picks him up. Is he just going to get banned again and whatever team he was on is now fucked? I feel like that would be a huge problem for him getting on another team and for him to have a successful career. He kept giving other reasons, but, in my opinion, this would have to be something he's considered and would probably be a big problem for him in the future. He shows no regret for toxicity and he even admits he won't change. I think that's why he doesn't want to continue in LoL even though he didn't say it.
@MrMounopano23
@MrMounopano23 9 жыл бұрын
+Kizoja they did talk about it throughout the interview
@prajeleSSS
@prajeleSSS 9 жыл бұрын
Forg1ven should go and try DotA2. I think he might find a new life there, might change his perspective.
@888Pommo
@888Pommo 9 жыл бұрын
@RNGMontecristo this has the looks of a renegade don't you think? You may be able to win NALCS with this guy on your roster. Feel so sorry for Forg1ven and how his career turned out. Don't think his mentality is flawed, winners play to win in all competitions. And though he is not one, he certainly has the traits to become just that with a proper setting/environment.
@RobWirdWachsen
@RobWirdWachsen 9 жыл бұрын
Alphadraft's money shall not be praised in this interview?
@LOLOLOHJK
@LOLOLOHJK 9 жыл бұрын
forgiven seems pretty defeated, seems like he doesn't like the fact that people talk shit on him and now riot ban him so he cant prove him self, really unfortunate i hope he gets to play another split and really prove his strength as a carry
@theoskyblue7633
@theoskyblue7633 9 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHAH that ending :') Love the forg1ven effect
@STRENGTH444
@STRENGTH444 9 жыл бұрын
I dont know why people keep saying Hjarnan is the best AD but i have never seen this guy hard carry?
@hobbitonlike
@hobbitonlike 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@lndy.
@lndy. 9 жыл бұрын
1:11:58 - 1:12:12 does anyone know what he's talking about here? A - S 4 letters?
@GeneralToxicus
@GeneralToxicus 8 жыл бұрын
Forgiven might just be the most misunderstood player in league of legends at the moment, people attribute this trash talking, narcissistic persona onto him, when in reality he's just a really humble and altruistic person. I mean with Doublelift, fans now it's in jest, but with forgiven people for real think he is just a trash talking asshole.
@nottedcruz6309
@nottedcruz6309 9 жыл бұрын
was this re uploaded because i swear that i watched this like last july
@Higuysitsrandy
@Higuysitsrandy 9 жыл бұрын
+Puck Fewdiepie new one
@MaiaLejeune
@MaiaLejeune 9 жыл бұрын
"Will there ever be a time when adc is the most important role" - That's a stupid question after the endless time of Kalista and Sivir being picked or banned literally every game, and last year when for weeks the entire meta could be summed up with "pick Tristana". Adc has been the most important role quite often.
@smugglertom277
@smugglertom277 9 жыл бұрын
wtf look at his eyes at 3:19
@frooooo2009
@frooooo2009 9 жыл бұрын
+smuggler tom holy shit that's terrifying
@andibanane7191
@andibanane7191 9 жыл бұрын
+smuggler tom forgive likes anime confirmed
@magik603
@magik603 9 жыл бұрын
+smuggler tom creepy as fuc shouldnt have watched that at 3 AM now gonna have nightmares
@SakeTheCool
@SakeTheCool 9 жыл бұрын
+smuggler tom LOL
@rubenfernandezgomez8776
@rubenfernandezgomez8776 9 жыл бұрын
have traslation to spanish this interview?
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