Reform, Tice and Farage learnt a lesson.

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Paul Thorpe

Paul Thorpe

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Did Nigel and Richard learn anything over the weekend?
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@alfiechapman4124
@alfiechapman4124 Ай бұрын
Sadly this is taking the attention away from the grooming gangs. scandle
@andybigbs9466
@andybigbs9466 Ай бұрын
And splitting the right wing vote.
@NellyandAnge
@NellyandAnge Ай бұрын
Tactics maybe? Could be a plot from someone aligned with labour chucking a firework in to take attention away from their failures 🤷🏼‍♀️
@Wendy51-w2s
@Wendy51-w2s Ай бұрын
Exactly, & the left are loving it..
@Wendy51-w2s
@Wendy51-w2s Ай бұрын
​@NellyandAnge yep...agree. Why don't we ever see it, yet the lefties usually always stick together..
@lindseyscott2920
@lindseyscott2920 Ай бұрын
Hopefully, we get rid of Starmer over this. The conservatives or another party including his own have to call for a vote of no confidence and get him out. He got a knighthood and was made PM not bad for the millions of young girls he's betrayed just over the fear of being called racist. It's a bloody disgrace, to say the least. I would get banned if I said what I wanted as many of us would. Even worse to hear it STILL going on as we speak up and down the UK 😡
@poc329
@poc329 Ай бұрын
Rupert Lowe has it spot on. He said "All praise to TR for his work". But not for us. Don't have to be vile. Nigel & Tice. Otherwise you split the vote & we lose.
@ellie.l6585
@ellie.l6585 Ай бұрын
But also no need to say "not for us." Why say that at all when Tommy doesn't even want to join Reform.
@user-er4iw6dj7k
@user-er4iw6dj7k Ай бұрын
@@ellie.l6585 Clearly he has to show some agreement with Nigel too, or else he’ll split the Reform vote. Splitting votes for the sake of a few words isn’t worth it. Tommy is big enough to hear a few words that don’t worship him, and splitting votes has real consequences that aren’t worth it.
@ellie.l6585
@ellie.l6585 Ай бұрын
@@user-er4iw6dj7k yes, I understand your point but I just think a lot of this has arisen by members of Reform saying unnecessary things. If journalists ask if they would accept TR as a member why not just say he hasn't even applied so it's an irrelevant question. They take that approach to a lot of other issues. Journalists would soon stop asking if all 5 MP's only said that and it would have saved them a lot of headaches in my view.
@pauldelaney5990
@pauldelaney5990 Ай бұрын
Nigel came to split the Patriot vote
@wadoryujujutsukempo6289
@wadoryujujutsukempo6289 Ай бұрын
I have changed my vote, ukip have got my attention now, farage clearly will not have the strength to deport all illegal migrants or legal migrants that claim benefits, remove legal aid, remove free healthcare unless someone has paid in for 10 years in full time employment
@mark4683itp
@mark4683itp Ай бұрын
Fighting is allowing grooming gangs to go silent
@christinepalmer935
@christinepalmer935 Ай бұрын
I agree
@rogerbennett9641
@rogerbennett9641 Ай бұрын
What's new? grooming gangs have been around for thirty years. We have to get the right government in power to sort out the problem, the fake British governments of the last 30 years will never do anything for British people.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
I suspect that's exactly the purpose
@francescarose1453
@francescarose1453 Ай бұрын
Also it is allowing them to continue with the evil abuse of innocent children. I believe that they are emboldened now, because they know that they will get away with it, because the establishment has done nothing to help the abused children, for decades not. This is morally wrong and I wonder how they would feel it it was their children. . I am a mother and I cannot imagine what these children have had to endure. My heart breaks for them.
@rogerbennett9641
@rogerbennett9641 Ай бұрын
All Farage's fault by design, cowardice or ego.
@Jenny-c1g-e4s
@Jenny-c1g-e4s Ай бұрын
Just seen Rupert Lowe’s recent comment on TR. That’s all that was needed, so simple really, not sure why Nigel Farage couldn’t have said the same thing.
@therealqueenofeverything
@therealqueenofeverything Ай бұрын
Ego.
@meerfisch
@meerfisch Ай бұрын
You took the word right out of my mouth. ​@therealqueenofeverything
Ай бұрын
Completely agree, Rupert Lowe got it right.
@sunsearching2912
@sunsearching2912 Ай бұрын
Because Rupert is showing how to leave ego at the door.
@Sneezy563
@Sneezy563 Ай бұрын
Speech like 'that lot tattooed thugs & stating they don't want TR in Reform (he's never asked to be) has shown who is causing the divide & it's certainly not Tommy.
@dazzlerone864
@dazzlerone864 Ай бұрын
Well said Paul. Tommy would not want division It would make all his efforts pointless. We must stand together
@joannaennis7866
@joannaennis7866 Ай бұрын
Well let Tommy say it loud and clear! After all, it was Labour Councils where most crimes were committed.
@karenbrigden1960
@karenbrigden1960 Ай бұрын
Paul called for everyone to cancel reform membership.
@karenbrigden1960
@karenbrigden1960 Ай бұрын
The divide was created by YOU!
@karenbrigden1960
@karenbrigden1960 Ай бұрын
You are talking about Tommy like he is a child 😂 What is wrong with you?
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
@@karenbrigden1960It really wasn’t. It was created by Farage and Tice.
@anthonylefebour3088
@anthonylefebour3088 Ай бұрын
Most of us supported Tommy and Nigel Farage so this is going to split loyalties which the lefty woke media and Labour will be delighted with, We have to think about the bigger picture which is to save our country from immigration and sexual violence that it brings ,Labour and Conservative have shown they are not capable, Reform are our best chance , If the vote is split Tommy’s sacrifice will have been in vain ,
@elainesayers5631
@elainesayers5631 Ай бұрын
@anthonylefebour3088 it won't split me. We can be in both camps. We can believe in both and still get the job done. It's a long road to 2029 and everything can turn on a coin.....
@MarionN-w3d
@MarionN-w3d Ай бұрын
​@@elainesayers5631will Nigel do what's necessary though, or will he just put his head in the sand.
@p51dgp91
@p51dgp91 Ай бұрын
Exactly! We can support both. Pointless to cut off our nose just to spite our face.
@WilliamHall-l8v
@WilliamHall-l8v Ай бұрын
I don't trust Farage since he gone in Westminster he become more like them am sick of the conservative team. we need Tommy as leader of UKIP with Elon Musk remember Nigel turned his back on the country before with Brexit he will do it again where Tommy has the heart of a lion.
@francescarose1453
@francescarose1453 Ай бұрын
I completely agree. Even though people don't agree, they can still achieve a goal, is they share a common goal. Time will tell and I think we should wait and see what happens.
@gailrobson4566
@gailrobson4566 Ай бұрын
They need to grow up. We all need to stick together to get our country back, and it becomes great again
@Ariadne_Oliver
@Ariadne_Oliver Ай бұрын
Not if Nigel is just going to be another Tory.
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын
Rubbish ​@@Ariadne_Oliver
@godehardbrysch7905
@godehardbrysch7905 Ай бұрын
Greetings from Germany. Oh, I have heard this very often that Farage said: "The UK is a great country." I remember when former minister Khawesi (sorry, if there is a spelling mistake) said on Sky News: "The UK is the greatest country. My mother would be very proud that her poor boy from Bagdad is now a minister in the UK government." How should one make a great country great again?
@fredneecher1746
@fredneecher1746 Ай бұрын
"Stick together" meaning throwing Tommy under the bus for the sake of unity?
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 Ай бұрын
@@fredneecher1746 pathetic you can't see you are being played.
@les.451
@les.451 Ай бұрын
Tommy is a force for positive change, for a better U.K.
@p51dgp91
@p51dgp91 Ай бұрын
@@les.451 But he’s not an MP and has no desire to be one.🤷‍♂️
@les.451
@les.451 Ай бұрын
@p51dgp91 true he has that way to inspire other's.
@alibali672
@alibali672 Ай бұрын
Look at the former name of Tommy Robinson's company. Is that where his allegiance really lies?
@leeatkinson7488
@leeatkinson7488 Ай бұрын
We need to stick together. Free Tommy . Vote Reform . Get labour out.
@ianhutchinson-r1d
@ianhutchinson-r1d Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@makeRabbitsAProtectedSpecies
@makeRabbitsAProtectedSpecies Ай бұрын
I stand with Tommy. If Reform are not for Tommy, then Reform are not for me
@denise4487
@denise4487 Ай бұрын
Exactly i 100% support tommy he literally is the bravest man i know however i will vote reform because the country comes before anything and anyone and there is noway tommy would advocate spliting the nation and doing what is right, the man has been fighting against the establishment for his whole adult life he isnt going to change direction now
@aevans-jl9ym
@aevans-jl9ym Ай бұрын
😢What upset me is that Tice & Farage go out of there way to make uncalled for classist snide remarks about Tommy. Not realizing that because of people like Jordan Peterson & Elon he is now seen as a working-class hero to millions of people around the world.
@mandarinduck5507
@mandarinduck5507 Ай бұрын
You need to look at the bigger picture. Or you will end up with labour again
@DaveWalker-j6p
@DaveWalker-j6p Ай бұрын
I'm a massive fan of Nigel and think Tommy's great too. Why can't we all just get along for a better future!?...🕊
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
We can. Stay strong.
@carolgraham6669
@carolgraham6669 Ай бұрын
Nigel doesn't want that
@fredneecher1746
@fredneecher1746 Ай бұрын
Because we are saying opposite things. We can't just paper over things like that.
@Woolywonder-qy9um
@Woolywonder-qy9um Ай бұрын
Because Nigel looks down on the working class and thinks the world revolves around him. Not the qualities of someone I would want to lead.
@alibali672
@alibali672 Ай бұрын
Look at the former name of Tommy Robinson's company. It shows where his allegiance really is.
@anglohero6295
@anglohero6295 Ай бұрын
Good Morning Paul, Rupert Lowe is an honourable gentleman that’s the difference.
@narkyspark
@narkyspark Ай бұрын
If only people would take the time to watch Tommy's documentaries instead of listening to MSM lies and rhetoric they surely would see the man has matured into a very good journalist and should be nurtured not persecuted. I went to the rallies support Urban scoop and also joined Reform at the start wanting change. Hopefully there's a happy medium in there somewhere where we take the fight to the real enemies of the state instead of ourselves. I sent a letter to my MP Reform candidate pointing this out. Hopefully he gets the message across.
@vibebrockdorff2384
@vibebrockdorff2384 Ай бұрын
He wont.
@Suroky232
@Suroky232 Ай бұрын
It is his previous convictions that is the real problem and why no political party can endorse him and win the centre votes. MSM would destroy Reform if they did. The country is more important that any indivual. We all have the same goal and need to stick together.
@zt2max
@zt2max Ай бұрын
@@Suroky232 Suroky gets it.
@dazag73
@dazag73 Ай бұрын
Put that comment in the main comment section, we must all understand and remember it ​@@Suroky232
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
@@Suroky232Did you watch the video? No one is asking Farage to endorse TR - just shut up about him! Stop using him as a virtue signalling punch bag every chance he gets. It is the Streisand effect - the harder Farage tries to trash TR, the more damage he does to himself and to Reform. He is digging a very big hole for no sensible purpose, he should just let it rest - but for some reason he can’t.
@TheShellw1977
@TheShellw1977 Ай бұрын
Ben habib on gb news said the right thing
@laviniasey
@laviniasey Ай бұрын
Yes he's very sly, wants the top job. Used to like him until he kept slagging off Nigel. And I don't want a Muslim PM
@TheShellw1977
@TheShellw1977 Ай бұрын
@laviniasey Ben's absolutely right and he does talks on Islam he knows what's going on
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
@@laviniaseyHe criticised Farage - but sometimes Farage needs criticism. He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.
@davidfarrell1145
@davidfarrell1145 Ай бұрын
Ben is a clever , quiet man, but a font of political knowledge, he and Rupert are true leaders, Farage is proving very all about him, not the people
@RAMSEYM2402
@RAMSEYM2402 Ай бұрын
Can someone thank Ben for the nearly 500 new Reform members today. Ta muchly 🙂
@johnearle1394
@johnearle1394 Ай бұрын
Well said paul + so pleased you said the truth that stephen has never said he wants to join reform he's a journalist + activist + truth teller God bless all
@marywebber593
@marywebber593 Ай бұрын
Am I alone in just thinking maybe Nigel and Richard are showing how ‘ posh ‘ they are, the ‘Class System ‘ is still there wether we like it or not and ‘ The so called Elites ‘ are part of it, be it how educated or how rich you are, being snobby is still in our society sadly. I think if Nigel and Tommy actually sat down and spoke they would realise the things they care about are the same things. I support them both and hate this in fighting because it detracts from the important issues we have in this Country that need to be fought for together. Another thoughtful podcast Paul, thank you for all you do, quite simply great stuff. Xxx
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
I agree. Farage sees TR and his supporters as working class riff raff. Farage is courting the disaffected Tory voters, most of whom have swallowed the MSM propaganda that TR is a far right waycist bogeyman.
@lindadee6603
@lindadee6603 Ай бұрын
Thanks Paul for all you do. Yeah a lot of people still see Tommy as a thug etc it makes me angry 😠
@latinlollipop6126
@latinlollipop6126 Ай бұрын
I don’t see him as a thug I am a Farage supporter and I will vote reform but I like both men and remain none judgmental!
@AlanFagan-y5l
@AlanFagan-y5l Ай бұрын
Farage made it clear, Tommy is a criminal belonging in jail. How can that be reconciled.?
@stephaniezickgraf9672
@stephaniezickgraf9672 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know why they think Tommy is a thug? Is it a case of "the wrong side of the tracks"?😊
@leewalton5432
@leewalton5432 Ай бұрын
​@stephaniezickgraf9672 those who think that should watch the Heretics podcast, they'd get a different view of him. Free Tommy Robinson
@SteviePeters-x3u
@SteviePeters-x3u Ай бұрын
he is a thug look at him, looks like a chav
@thetony1973
@thetony1973 Ай бұрын
Let’s all stand together and get this job done, we must stand together PATRIOTS stronger TOGETHER…always. 🇬🇧
@fredneecher1746
@fredneecher1746 Ай бұрын
"Better together". Sounds familiar.
@lindseyscott2920
@lindseyscott2920 Ай бұрын
Well said Paul.I totally agree with everything you said.Treat people the way you want people to treat you.Simple
@Harry-v6b7l
@Harry-v6b7l Ай бұрын
I'm surrounded by people who share neither my ancestry nor my culture nor my values - not even my language. The only similarity this place has to the city I was born and raised in are the GPS coordinates; everything else has changed, and not for the better…..
@paulmortal7611
@paulmortal7611 Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. If you want British culture, spend more time in the rural parts of the uk. A lot of tradition still exists you just need to get out of the city.
@edaleman2758
@edaleman2758 Ай бұрын
Move to Spain, there are English communities there where hardly anyone knows a word of Spanish
@jackiemadden4024
@jackiemadden4024 Ай бұрын
I would love to move away from London but sadly I’m too old to pick up sticks and move it’s okay if you have the money and can choose where you want to live but in my case it’s not possible
@meisievannancy
@meisievannancy Ай бұрын
@@2345bcde You can change it. Spain ejected the invaders after they were there a couple of 100 years.
@johntitchener5751
@johntitchener5751 Ай бұрын
​@@paulmortal7611 agreed. Haven't you heard. The country side is racist.. 😅😅😅
@richardhart3290
@richardhart3290 Ай бұрын
Again Rupert Lowe has got it spot on in his responses
@verabolton5081
@verabolton5081 Ай бұрын
Spot on again Paul, all those words are correct what you say!
@CAEvans-r2o
@CAEvans-r2o Ай бұрын
the thing they dont understand Paul...is we everyday working men and women of the UK... that lot have a Moral compass and we will stick by our friends. We have Loyalty to each other.... thats something you cant buy....
@ange1098
@ange1098 Ай бұрын
Money can buy loyalty, lots and lots of loyalty.
@francescarose1453
@francescarose1453 Ай бұрын
@@ange1098 That is not genuine loyalty.
@ange1098
@ange1098 Ай бұрын
@ no such thing as genuine loyalty not from humans anyway. But from animals that’s a different matter.
@CAEvans-r2o
@CAEvans-r2o Ай бұрын
@ange1098 not true working class Loyalty I hope😬
@donnaspeer2760
@donnaspeer2760 Ай бұрын
Nigel should have stayed neutral on TR thats all he had to do, and Tice needs to know it was that lot that made him a MP.
@Maz-31
@Maz-31 Ай бұрын
I agree .. they don't seem to realise that ..
@johnhiggins4470
@johnhiggins4470 Ай бұрын
The establishment would like nothing better than to see the Reform side become divided against each other. Then they can carry on with business as usual.
@rachelball-uj7mf
@rachelball-uj7mf Ай бұрын
Brilliant well said Paul. 👏👏
@stephenbull8962
@stephenbull8962 Ай бұрын
They should come together and put the past, in the past. We need to work together the rid us of the current Labour Party. The split will work against us.
@helenfay8179
@helenfay8179 Ай бұрын
The truth will always prevail no matter what. TR has been the bigger person here. Elon has an IQ of 160 need we say anymore. TR is a learner , he has learned from past mistakes. No one in this world is perfect. I wish TR well and a safe return to society where he belongs.
@MarionGolbourn
@MarionGolbourn Ай бұрын
As a journalist, not a politician.
@Gmjd64
@Gmjd64 Ай бұрын
@MarionGolbourn he never wanted to be a politician so where did you get that from ?
@kevinmassey7675
@kevinmassey7675 Ай бұрын
It could have been so , so easy for Reforms leadership...UNITE THE RIGHT
@elainesayers5631
@elainesayers5631 Ай бұрын
Reform are centrist. They aren't right wing. Politics have gone so far to the left we have been tricked into believing they are way to the Right. We might like them to be more Right Wing but if they were they could go too far. The Tories were more left than Right. This lot are more left than left we have ever known and borderline marxist...its going to take everything we have to pull this off in the next 4 years. Everything.
@jmcm88th
@jmcm88th Ай бұрын
Nigel has put the needs and wants of MSM before needs and wants of the grassroots movement.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
True. He's playing to a gallery that is slowly but surely disappearing.
@666gwp
@666gwp Ай бұрын
Yes seems willing to upset half his supporters yet not upset the media.
@nicolagregory8723
@nicolagregory8723 Ай бұрын
I'm clear about not wanting Reform to be dismantled as i do not want another 5yrs of Tories or labour, at least Nigel has a voice that can't be ignored for us
@Horriblebastad
@Horriblebastad Ай бұрын
Reform is the tory party
@native2000wilson-um1ty
@native2000wilson-um1ty Ай бұрын
Well said Paul 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@M3lloiuse
@M3lloiuse Ай бұрын
Well said 🙏🏼🌟🦋🦉 we will stay united love to Tommy , Tommy has got it out that’s the main thing , Tommy wouldn’t want us to divide he’s always said vote reform # FreeTommy ♥️♥️♥️♥️
@georgewarner5496
@georgewarner5496 Ай бұрын
Yes. Unity is strength. In Poland and Sweden there seems to be much more solidarity.
@christinepalmer935
@christinepalmer935 Ай бұрын
google Sweden its the Rape capital of the world Sweden is struggling
@fredneecher1746
@fredneecher1746 Ай бұрын
But how do we get unity if the leaders of the only party likely to succeed deliberately disown the movement that gave it birth? Farage and Tice do not understand on what their party is built.
@gherkamum
@gherkamum Ай бұрын
Paul as you say we all want the same thing........Lets get Labour out, lets have loads of Reform MPs in parliament, If Tommy can get his followers to vote Reform we can do this Paul.❤
@barbaraaimson2100
@barbaraaimson2100 Ай бұрын
Together we stand divided we fall. Reform should acknowledge tommys bringing this to the front .
@iriswoodhead6132
@iriswoodhead6132 Ай бұрын
Nigel’s supporters are the working people, their voters, it put me right off Nigel and Richard Tice, all Tommy has tried to do is to stand up for his country by not having shariah law into the uk, we need our children protected.
@tiggerthecat1
@tiggerthecat1 Ай бұрын
There's a thousand things beside. They allow the media and HNH to set the parameters and since getting into parliament, with all that has gone on, Farage has behaved like a wet lettuce. The MAGA movement know all about Tommy and still like him.
@RussellLeigh-q1e
@RussellLeigh-q1e Ай бұрын
We must stick together and vote reform but I'm a massive tommy fan and supporter. Well said Paul it is unfair what they have said about tommy but let's move on for the greater good
@KatieCully
@KatieCully Ай бұрын
The media know how to shut reform up about any big headline they ask about Tommy and then reform becomes the headline
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
Exactly. They know to push the button marked Tommy to get a reaction out of Nigel and Richard.
@georgewheeldon-f8s
@georgewheeldon-f8s Ай бұрын
and the worst part is tice and farage havnt got the sense to see this they are both thick as soup
@philipcronshaw298
@philipcronshaw298 Ай бұрын
We will never get a better chance of saving this country try to stick together there will be a lot of people trying to scupper reform uk but I think it's probably the only chance of getting rid of labor and conservative in my life time hold the line
@johnwatson7120
@johnwatson7120 Ай бұрын
United we stand.
@LincsMinx06
@LincsMinx06 Ай бұрын
♥️💯♥️ Paul. We need to concentrate now on the young girls. Starmer will try to wriggle his way out of this Scandal, and it is up to us to keep the pressure at boiling point.
@shameed8883
@shameed8883 Ай бұрын
Reform needs to win. TR has done a great job but he has baggage. In politics parties want people with no baggage. As simple as that. Leave TR to do his journalism and expose the criminals - including the officials - and act as a lobby to pressurise REFORM. That is his role.
@StephanieLærkeAndersen
@StephanieLærkeAndersen Ай бұрын
It’s not about who’s a fan of who or who likes or dislikes who or who said what about who! This is a political battle, and we’ve got to back the best party to win. Tommy Robinson‘s name has been dragged into this when really it shouldn’t have been. If Nigel doesn’t like Tommy then fair point. He’s entitled to his opinion. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t back Reform. People are speaking out to defend Tommy Robinson which is a good thing, but Tommy isn’t in this political game. Farage is therefore he’s a player, and we have to play to win.
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
Very true and logical the only problem being that he is not a school boy and he doesn't do or say things at random so people (men) are now wondering can he be trusted with anything. Nigel is a man , he understands it perfectly but he is not backing down in a fight that nobody wanted and he started with himself. Very out of character for him and when someone is acting very strange for no reason that is because it's who he is. He better show soon he is not that.
@eddiemercury3372
@eddiemercury3372 Ай бұрын
Totally agree! Farage knows British politics and how to swim in it. I didn't like the way Habib was elbowed out, but the time to pick a fight with the leader of a Party is when it has deeper roots. I would love to see him inside the tent but maybe when Farage lets go of the reins. TR no matter how saintly, will always be a target for the establishment in order to bring him and Reform crashing down; Farage knows this and realises that this will upset many members, but they can get over it if they look at the bigger picture. Reform has to be committed to the long haul if its going to change this Country for the better - they could however choose far better wording when addressing the concerns of their supporters as of right now.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
​@@eddiemercury3372well said. Agreed 💯%
@seremela71
@seremela71 Ай бұрын
I'm hoping this is just a political manoeuvre to gain more support for Reform from people who are hesitant, because they were concerned Reform are further to the right than they could have voted for. Keep voting Reform.
@twistedsister2568
@twistedsister2568 Ай бұрын
We must not split the vote, Paul and the others need to stop pushing Farage to acknowledge Tommy. We need to get them elected first but splitting the vote will result in labour or toy back in and our country ruined
@rosemarykennedy5430
@rosemarykennedy5430 Ай бұрын
In 4.5 years, after voter ID is ditched, Labour will have sufficient support from new arrivals to prevail and Reform will be elevated to "official opposition". Won't that be something to look forward to?
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
@@twistedsister2568Did you not watch the video before commenting??? No one is asking Farage to acknowledge TR - just SHUT UP about him.
@amandaelligott446
@amandaelligott446 Ай бұрын
United we stand divided we fall.
@michaelsinglehurst7153
@michaelsinglehurst7153 Ай бұрын
Difficult as it undoubtedly is, we have to keep certain ideas separate. Tommy is a patriotic hero, Farage is a politician, not perfect by any means, but realistically our best chance of outing the Labour/Cons. We MUST stay united!!!
@5Raven
@5Raven Ай бұрын
The main problem with all of these problems is the main stream media trying to draw out things to finish Reform and Us. Have you seen the way a sky news presenter was bombarding Richard Tice with questions about the heckling trying to force the conversation. Richard held him off better than I thought he did say he was not here to talk about a criminal in prison. But he didn’t seem to give in to the bombardment. I think they need grilling training to put the questioners in their place.
@Paul-je7bo
@Paul-je7bo Ай бұрын
i also saw Tice on LBC, i think Tice needs to toughen up as he was easily riled
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
I agree. They are in the bear pit now, they need to skill up and not get baited.
@jamonit7169
@jamonit7169 Ай бұрын
You are one of the few who described the MSM obsession with this.. the reason being they know if they can elicit any praise of Tommy it will seriously damage Reform politically. The vast majority of the country haven't seen his documentary so he is just a man in prison and we don't put innocent people in prison in the UK, do we! We all know the MSM considers a neutral response or saying "no comment" as an admittance of "guilt" except the TR supporters who either don't get it or understand the political implications. No surprise, Rupert Lowe managed to get provide the perfect response, I don't think it made a difference but he had the luxury of being in the "second wave" and saw how poorly Farage and Tice had dealt with it. This saga will run it's course, I doubt Paul and others in the UKIP camp can keep it going until 2029...cheers
@godehardbrysch7905
@godehardbrysch7905 Ай бұрын
I'm German, thus I'm not interested in the content of the interview, but the interview itself is relevant for me. I watched the interview and must contradict. Some questions were uncomfortable for Tice, he did not want to respond and diverted with "Millions of people are more interested..., (I'm not going to answer the questions but refer to the millions..) First he was asked in a friendly way to answer the questions. But Tice started a monologue, speaking very fast without interruptions so that the Interviewer (Trevor) had no chance to repeat that an answer was not given. At this point the interviewer should have come to an end. Not Trevor was bombarding Tice, but Tice was persistently talking, avoiding to stick to the questions. Of course, you can personally refuse the questions, and thus supporting Tice, but this is not my focus.
@jamonit7169
@jamonit7169 Ай бұрын
@@godehardbrysch7905 I didn't watch the "interview", didn't need to they are too predictable...What was the question that Trevor tried to open it with?
@funnyanimals6038
@funnyanimals6038 Ай бұрын
We need reform as a political party as the current political parties are not doing a good job, we also need TR to keep bringing certain issues to light which the media ignores. What we don’t need is bickering between each other, that doesn’t help solve the current problems
@truthsearcher596
@truthsearcher596 Ай бұрын
No, we need a political system for the people as was intended and that certainly doesn't mean Stakeholder Capitalism. The British got too comfy being comfortable with EastEnders, football, beer and netflix thinking/trusting those in power. Now Britain is awakening to what happens when you take your eye off the ball.
@boota1979
@boota1979 Ай бұрын
@@truthsearcher596 The system in place which has been around for centuries, from around the same time we got a constitutional monarchy, was set up by the ruling elite for their benefit. Until this is eradicated nothing will change, simply every few years another face in number 10.
@davidramsay6461
@davidramsay6461 Ай бұрын
Well said, as always Paul
@brendamackenzie7719
@brendamackenzie7719 Ай бұрын
Absolutely right Paul 👍
@thedoppelganger2665
@thedoppelganger2665 Ай бұрын
What a shame its took a man from another country,to open there eyes.Thank you elon all we want is to unite the kingdom 🙏🏻 God bless you all
@christinepalmer935
@christinepalmer935 Ай бұрын
can we talk about our children and rape gangs that's more important its being swept under the carpet I don't think Tommy would be happy about that
@Maz-31
@Maz-31 Ай бұрын
Morning Paul .. you are so right .. we need to come together if we're on the same side ... Paul you are a great advocate for peace .. bless you 🙏
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Ай бұрын
It’s a typical underestimate of the facts and more so the strength of a united Britain. This has always given me cause for concern when looking and Nigel. I fear he’s cut from the same cloth as the rest of the establishment. The more he walks down this path, the more ‘they’ are moulding him into something they can control and coerce. You can clearly see this happening. Has he got the minerals to pull it back, have a rethink? This is a tipping point, and also a huge opportunity to push reform way beyond anyone’s expectations. Mr Farage, grow a set and read the room ffs, or suffer the consequences of the electorate.
@boota1979
@boota1979 Ай бұрын
@CraigK80 No one is moulding Farage, he's simply an establishment stooge.
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Ай бұрын
@@boota1979he’s conforming to the framework of the establishment and whatever they dictate. Moulding was a loosely used term, point being he’s staying within the current framework norms which is the reason this country is in the state it’s in. They’re all guilty of it.
@tiggerthecat1
@tiggerthecat1 Ай бұрын
Yeah, people moaning about division need to think about the consequences of what happens if you are right! All Farages behaviour points to the fact that you are right. He's had open goal after open goal with this despicable regime and what has he really done? Very meek and timid. People can't just ignore the warning signs out of fear of splitting the vote if we are splitting something that isn't there to begin with.
@jamonit7169
@jamonit7169 Ай бұрын
@@CraigK80 Oddly enough " the current framework norms" are where the majority of voters are.. without their support we stay where we are. If you watch politics for more than a week you see that's how every government gets elected... the Tories promise much and deliver nothing, in reverse if it's immigration ,Labour promise change and delivers socialism. In Farage's case, ( BTW how on earth can the man responsible for Brexit be "establishment"!) there's no reason to doubt he won't push beyond these "norms" if necessary once the majority see the results of what they currently are proposing to implement.
@dean6816
@dean6816 Ай бұрын
Nigel said a few months ago that he wasn't bothered about Tory voters, it's the labour voters he's trying to get on board!!!
@DonnaNewton-h8e
@DonnaNewton-h8e Ай бұрын
Good Monday morning Paul & chat, Well what a weekend eh! I can’t wait to see what this week ahead will reveal, have a lovely positive week everyone 😊🙏🏼
@peterwilson8797
@peterwilson8797 Ай бұрын
Well put.
@ebutlink
@ebutlink Ай бұрын
Let's face it head on , this country is finished Without Farage. Jailing Tommy is disgusting and needs correcting, But trying to derail the Reform party is just as bad and in the long run is unthinkable if we need our Country back. Who gave the instruction to the Speaker to shut down any debate on Southport tragedy, Let us get Reform into power and we have a chance, with or without Tommy and his very important finger pointing
@susanskarratts4891
@susanskarratts4891 Ай бұрын
People swaying one way then another 🙄
@juliaogara8794
@juliaogara8794 Ай бұрын
Spot on.
@Dudley-x2c
@Dudley-x2c Ай бұрын
The media made TR's name toxic. Most won't see him any other way. Unfortunately. 🐑
@MarionN-w3d
@MarionN-w3d Ай бұрын
But on the other hand, the government has turned him into a martyr. A martyr for his cause.
@nesanesa9547
@nesanesa9547 Ай бұрын
Goverment and main stream media... it is righteous that farage should tell us what he is going to say to 😮 Elon about TR Face to face!!!! Still shadows 🎉ENOUGH
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
That image will change the more Tommy does long form interviews and tells the full story, and more people see Silenced.
@Phantom-mk4kp
@Phantom-mk4kp Ай бұрын
Some just can't see when they are doing more harm than good
@chrisevans9342
@chrisevans9342 Ай бұрын
Tommy says vote reform. .. Nigel cannot give the press 1 inch ..
@jamonit7169
@jamonit7169 Ай бұрын
Isn't voting an individual's right based on something other than.. someone told me to!
@jeanlockley2911
@jeanlockley2911 Ай бұрын
​​@@jamonit7169Talk about!splitting hairs!
@chrisevans9342
@chrisevans9342 Ай бұрын
@@jeanlockley2911 cheers old chap...you get the point 🏆
@JaneRoss-ff3wp
@JaneRoss-ff3wp Ай бұрын
It feels like something is trying to divide us ?!??? ...normies out there are having a field day hearing this division . Im so glad Paul , that you are discussing this !! God bless my ansum . Granny Ross cornwall
@MarieChapstick
@MarieChapstick Ай бұрын
Vote reformmmmmmm
@irenehannan4731
@irenehannan4731 Ай бұрын
We all know Tommy and have done for years. When you were busy with very expensive watches we were supporting Tommy and Nigel but not together!!!!!!
@PaulBooth-m1d
@PaulBooth-m1d Ай бұрын
to talk about a cetain person they must be important (tommy) tommy said the more they go against tommy the more support tommy gets and he is right
@GloriaHoulihan
@GloriaHoulihan Ай бұрын
I wish Tommy well and support his exposure of the problems being faced but he has committed some crimes. To form a new political party Reform will be closely scrutinised and integrity will be extremely important.
@JohnCunningham-y2t
@JohnCunningham-y2t Ай бұрын
So, you are looking for a Saint ? A leader is where you find them. Tommy is a leader and Nigel is not a leader of MEN.
@CAROLECOOK-v3m
@CAROLECOOK-v3m Ай бұрын
I watched Ben Leo this morning GB news he was brilliant . He summed everything up factually and quickly he was great.
@stevecooper2541
@stevecooper2541 Ай бұрын
Well said
@poppyqueen111
@poppyqueen111 Ай бұрын
we have all got to kiss and make up ...life is too short ...lots of living and working together to be done... it's a long road ahead...we must stand united ..this is what they others want division dont give to them please...
@truthsearcher596
@truthsearcher596 Ай бұрын
Why bow down to these people? This planet holds many a place to find happiness.
@nobody-x7g
@nobody-x7g Ай бұрын
As a Reform member I have just written to them to tell them this. You are correct in this. It was stupid. Now we need to stick together and lets hope we can all shut up and get on with business.
@yeezey750v3
@yeezey750v3 Ай бұрын
Bang on paul ..
@stukavonferno8858
@stukavonferno8858 Ай бұрын
Calling all patriots, get along to Nuneaton on March the 1st and support Britain First's March for Remigration, you know It makes sense!
@paulholmes-vu1eh
@paulholmes-vu1eh Ай бұрын
What gets me is that they think Tommy wants to be a member of reform..🤷‍♂️..! Tommy has his plans for the future, and I believe his plans are to carry on with his journalism, which he is very good at..! I think Tommy deserves more recognition for bringing the biggest scandal in our history to the fore..! It’s Tommy that has been the guy that has brought this whole disgusting affair to the world’s eye, never mind just Britain…! God bless you Tommy and please stay safe 🙏..!
@NellyandAnge
@NellyandAnge Ай бұрын
I wish I could give you more than one 'like'. I've been watching different streams most of the night and commentating much the same.
@tecgarlick5048
@tecgarlick5048 Ай бұрын
The polling stations will talk
@richardcummins5465
@richardcummins5465 Ай бұрын
So long as STARMER doesn't BAN ALL FUTURE ELECTIONS.
@letsgobrandon.
@letsgobrandon. Ай бұрын
The only reason they're talking about Tommy Robinson is that when they're being interviewed by the media, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ASKED ABOUT HIM! Otherwise, Tice and Farage wouldn't mention him.
@richardhart3290
@richardhart3290 Ай бұрын
Yes but Rupert Lowe is able to give smart responses
@loraineharvey7944
@loraineharvey7944 Ай бұрын
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️Thank you paul .🙏
@Revolutionistory
@Revolutionistory Ай бұрын
When it comes to certain people who are unable to think before they speak silence is definitely golden
@GeorgesDupont-do8pe
@GeorgesDupont-do8pe Ай бұрын
Above all, what is not needed is division and "in-fighting". We are all adults (those who have skin in this game), and anybody with any sense can see that being provocative serves no one. An attitude of stoic calm and patience, forgiving and keeping one's peace and dignity, continuing to hold open the door and despite any provocation is our best chance. Remember forgiveness is divine. Your thumbnail puts it best, "know when to say nothing".
@willpp9999
@willpp9999 Ай бұрын
Nigel Farage only answered the questions asked n answered truthfully for his own opinion !
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of
@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of Ай бұрын
AND WE DONT LIKE HIS OPINION AS HE IS HAPPY FOR TOMMY TO DO THE DONKEY WORK AND NIGEL PRETEND ITS ALL DOWN TO HIM A HIS OTHER PATHETIC PARTNERS AT THE TOP TABLE, WHILE THE MUGS CARRY ON SUBSCRIBING TO THE PARTY. ITS NOT A MEMBERSHIP YET ANOTHER CON BY REFORM
@WatchingtheWorldBurning
@WatchingtheWorldBurning Ай бұрын
In which case, he's not the man to reform anything.
@Notime4idiots
@Notime4idiots Ай бұрын
@@WatchingtheWorldBurningpolitically naive comment.
@halfordslain7477
@halfordslain7477 Ай бұрын
Divide and conquer in action...
@sylviadaniell2594
@sylviadaniell2594 Ай бұрын
Thank you your wise words Paul. May a mature response be seen.
@danatasmagic
@danatasmagic Ай бұрын
Just listen to JUNE SLATER!!!
@Lagunasparkles
@Lagunasparkles Ай бұрын
I’ve said that before too
@Will-ul9oc
@Will-ul9oc Ай бұрын
The Truth is Reform seem to be fully on Board with Tommy’s cause but not so much Tommy himself. We need to separate the two things meaning Farage has an issue with Tommy not his campaign. Musky seems to support Tommy and is using his Money to try and Persuade Farage to comply with his wishes. Well at least we now know Farage is not Bribe able and is not backing a cause of Musk’s for the Money. Farage seems to now prove his integrity and he should be commended for that alone. That’s more than can be said for our current government. I will continue to Back Farage and Reform, I respect Farage for not accepting the Bribe from Musky. Rupert Lowe is Correct in his comment and has expressed Farage’s position the best so far.
@MB-AFC
@MB-AFC Ай бұрын
Being the richest man in the room does not make you the wisest. All this fan boying for Elon who isn't an experienced politician and lets be fair doesn't appear to understand the British political system workings - throwing his dummy out of the pram with a schoolyard comment about Nigel not being strong enough just goes to.prove my point. It's all to make himself politically relevant across the world. I back Tommy and he should be given the respect and recognition for all he has done - it makes me angry seeing others taking credit for his blood, sweat and tears regarding the grooming gangs in the UK. Tommy's time will come, it's moving in the right direction, it just needs time. Let us not split the vote, we need Nigel and Reform right now to get our country back.
@janeyd1959
@janeyd1959 25 күн бұрын
Very rational talk thankyou Paul
@yvonnewarner2664
@yvonnewarner2664 Ай бұрын
Tommy is a uniting hero and needs to be free! Speaks the truth.
@kathyshearsby2043
@kathyshearsby2043 Ай бұрын
Totally agree with you Paul 100%
@timford4873
@timford4873 Ай бұрын
Farage keeps bringing in Tory mps. Say's it all
@Paul-je7bo
@Paul-je7bo Ай бұрын
i understand how you feel, but without experianced political people you would exchange one group of amatures(Labour) for another. Nigel and Lee might have some experiance but the Vast majority wont
@beagle30
@beagle30 Ай бұрын
@@timford4873 right wing Tories will be fine in Reform its the others that are the problem
@711honved
@711honved Ай бұрын
Many of these MP's share a Reform agenda! Farage needs to build credibility if Reform have a chance at being elected. The Party will come under massive attack from MSM & all other political parties as we get nearer to the next general election.
@jackiemadden4024
@jackiemadden4024 Ай бұрын
Sounds like he wants a new Tory party and they all seem to be money people so I doubt they will understand what it’s like to struggle with everyday life putting food on the table paying rent council tax which is all going up again in April how do they expect people to manage
@carolinehops
@carolinehops Ай бұрын
Once a Tory,always ..reform is the new Tory party..that’s why they wouldn’t get votes.
@paulmason6474
@paulmason6474 Ай бұрын
A still tongue keeps a wise head😮😮
@angels3415
@angels3415 Ай бұрын
Also Lee Anderson , that surprised me 😔
@666gwp
@666gwp Ай бұрын
Surprised me too but he spoke with the same contempt
@leebishop2794
@leebishop2794 Ай бұрын
I am not a farage fan but he was only answering the question put to him
@elainesayers5631
@elainesayers5631 Ай бұрын
Paul I honestly don't think they have been advised correctly. But you only have to see how the mainstream media have gone for them both over the Tommy issue in the past few days. Can you imagine the hit job they would do if they did. Either we want to win or we don't. I have believed in Tommy since his Oxford Union speech.....Rupert Lowe did the right thing. That's all we needed. Now we all stick together or we fall.
@Ground_Control01
@Ground_Control01 Ай бұрын
i agree but nigel sticking the boot into tommy for no reason isnt sticking together
@elainesayers5631
@elainesayers5631 Ай бұрын
@@Ground_Control01 I know. But we are playing the long game....
@Ground_Control01
@Ground_Control01 Ай бұрын
@ ‘long game’? Kick fellow patriots 👍
@romeric69
@romeric69 Ай бұрын
Never seen other political parties being asked about it's allegiance to TR, fell right into the mainstream media's trap.
@levi5073
@levi5073 Ай бұрын
He couldn't keep his big gob shut, and then he acted surprised when Musk (along with thousands of others, including myself) got annoyed with him. How is it that I wasn't surprised with Elon's reaction but the great Leader was? Is he an utter fool?
@laviniasey
@laviniasey Ай бұрын
​@@Skyla4242Well I and millions of others do. He is genuinely nice man., you won't find many who know him to say different
@CarolineMoore-mg9px
@CarolineMoore-mg9px Ай бұрын
The trouble is the main stream media always bring tommys name up in all interviews so obviously Nigel has to reply. Nigel knows how the system works so unfortunately has to play the game. I don’t believe that Tommy should be in prison but I do also support Nigel and the Reform party. It’s a difficult path that Nigel has to tread and fair play to him for telling Musk to get lost.
@twistedsister2568
@twistedsister2568 Ай бұрын
We need to stop bitching. We have to get labour and Tory out and the only alternative is Reform so we need to stop saying and doing things that will split the vote. Nigel has to be squeaky clean to get elected then Farage can be held to account.
@truthsearcher596
@truthsearcher596 Ай бұрын
Squeaky clean to whom?.
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
Yes, ‘we’ need to stop bitching and splitting the vote - but who is doing this? Who keeps needling TR sympathisers?
@Pocketpatriot
@Pocketpatriot Ай бұрын
Incorrect Paul,they were asked about Tommy,they didn’t just blurt stuff out
@SAHBfan
@SAHBfan Ай бұрын
A good politician anticipates the questions they are likely to be asked and has an answer ready. A good politician can evade questions or give non- committal answers. It is what they do. Farage and Tice seem very ready to trash TR and his supporters whenever they are asked. They should be perfectly capable of side stepping the question, they clearly don’t want to.
@Angelsofthenorthernstar
@Angelsofthenorthernstar Ай бұрын
I am a Tommy supporter, God Bless All, Amen xx
@starlove8044
@starlove8044 Ай бұрын
❤ If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing ❤
@boota1979
@boota1979 Ай бұрын
@starlove8044 And sadly that is why the country is in such a mess, we are way to complacent.
@starlove8044
@starlove8044 Ай бұрын
@boota1979 Well some wernt but look what happened to them 😬
@boota1979
@boota1979 Ай бұрын
@@starlove8044 We are a country of talkers with little action, we do not all stick together. It was wrecked from Thatcher on and it became dog eat dog.
@starlove8044
@starlove8044 Ай бұрын
​@@boota1979 Thatcher 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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