a) You mentioned in passing "a design flaw" and b) I know that correcting manufacturers is a controversial subject. Having said that, wouldn't it be a good idea to move the defrost sensor to the most iced-up area of the evaporator and be sure each time it is 100% de-frosted? Thank you for another opportunity to learn.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is exactly what needs to be done. But we aren’t allowed to change it when we want. This chain only allows us to change these things if it’s approved. It’s so dumb. But you are 100% correct. I’d love to relocate it to the top right part of the coil in between the fins. Great comment bro
@Luzt.4 жыл бұрын
@@rookierefrigeration4357 Thank you for the answer. Have a good day.
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
@@rookierefrigeration4357 they likely placed it at the end to shield from physical damage when cleaning, also to prevent freeze/thaw cycles of ice pushing it out. that was less of an issue with the capillary tube sensor type shoved deep inside the fins parallel with the tubing. it's almost like engineers back then knew what they were doing, learning by trial and error in the field with real testing and not just some electronics/programmer nerds hacking a refer system by poking keyboards lol.
@sjefoekel60584 жыл бұрын
@@throttlebottle5906 hahaha Exactly
@jairojaxon95043 жыл бұрын
i dont mean to be off topic but does any of you know a tool to log back into an instagram account?? I was stupid lost the password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.
@thawrath93064 жыл бұрын
Well done! That "3rd guy here" thinking process saved the day.
@hkhvac2704 жыл бұрын
That was professional troubleshooting good job 👍
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. 💪🏼💪🏼
@andreware75364 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos!✊🏾 me being in my "rookie" years only 3 years in, I can appreciate these videos! Thanks again!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 💪🏼💪🏼
@mybeachshack Жыл бұрын
Very thorough, big-picture diagnosis. This is your service-company, yes ? Nice tools. Thankfully it's not an ice-cream box ! Good job, Sir...... Hats off !!
@PENSNASTY4 жыл бұрын
New to your Videos. I like the way you work. Speak in terms I understand without being to proper. I also like to hear your thinking process. I’m learning a lot. Thanks.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching bro. I appreciate it
@mannyradtke1364 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you... There is nothing rookie about you! You are as thorough as I wish I was! Well done! Your videos are great and I hope others catch on to you! Keep it up and thank you!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
I still make mistakes. But I at least admit them and show them.
@tonybrown54004 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these great vids really helpful for people starting out please keep them coming Regards Tony from England 🏴🇺🇸
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Tony Brown thanks for watching bro
@TheOahuborn8084 жыл бұрын
That was a good catch of the swap wires. Love the way how you take your time and analyze the situation.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
kyle albano thanks bro. I appreciate you watching
@gas_man15654 жыл бұрын
Really good catch. sometimes those boards are overwhelming to unexperience techs. we all been there. let your boy know great video!
@barbarahauser97004 жыл бұрын
it looked like the heater holding clip was off on the end of the coil. which was why not defrosting on end. which was why coil fins were bent up .
@jamielapierre9314 жыл бұрын
Great learning video. Thanks for sharing
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@crrefrigeration77054 жыл бұрын
They sent in the big guns good work nice find👍🏿💪🏿
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lol. I wish. Thank you for watching👍🏽
@TheOneshot784 жыл бұрын
Great job my friend..
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@paulwhite98484 жыл бұрын
Super good diagnosis. I’m learning -subscribed
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Paul white thank you Paul.
@yahyabokula11304 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos champ, keep em coming! Im a rookie myself with over 2 years in the game residing in London. Your doing alot with these videos for us rookies🙌🏾
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yahya Bokula thanks alot bro.
@mustafaali31144 жыл бұрын
I felt that part when you said the customer doesn't like spending money Haha 😂
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lmao. It’s reality
@jyphc16794 жыл бұрын
That was damn good troubleshooting👍👍👍👏👏👏
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thank you. And thanks for watching
@andrewedis99073 жыл бұрын
Nice catch
@hg2.3 жыл бұрын
This one is going into the HVAC Hall of Fame playlist, i.e. The ones that would give you nightmares if you had to fix. Or The ones that start out with "Three guys came out here before and couldn't get it fixed..."
@uski3 жыл бұрын
I am not in the trade, so I might be missing something - but my suggestion would be to label the connectors with a small point sharpie ("SUC" for suction temp, "DEF" for defrost, and so on). Of course it should have been the person unplugging the connectors who should have been doing it, but better late than never.
@203157119784 жыл бұрын
Well done Rook. Enjoying ur work. Thanks hope u get some good call & don't work to late.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching bro. I appreciate you.
@hvac014534 жыл бұрын
I would think then that the install was wrong. The discharge air is hitting a hard wall, there is no throw.
@industrialmaintenancesolutions9 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I am working on a small norlake walk in freezer. I am not sure if the evap fans should suction air through the coil or if they should blow towards the coil. The evaporator coil is set up almost the same as in this video. Please help.
@Ted_E_Bear4 жыл бұрын
Make sure you wear your PPE and be safe ! Great troubleshooting ...
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Thanks
@ronald21brand4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again nice one. Stay save greats from Holland.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Ronald Brand thank you. Greetings from Texas
@jimmyp54873 жыл бұрын
Just FYI If there is a smart controller for that beacon system you have to change the parameters on the smart controller for it to save on the beacon control board in that evaporator
@chevboy167x84 жыл бұрын
Great catch!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud
@konstantinostsoukalas3624 жыл бұрын
Good finding Bro. Always good to be patient and check everything.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Konstantinos Tsoukalas yes sir. 👍🏽
@kcomfortsystemshvac70604 жыл бұрын
Good,,,,,as usual,,,,,!, good explanation 👍👍👍👍
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mychoclabwinston4 жыл бұрын
It is stupid that a plug and play board would use identical J clips, like you said were all human, manufactures should make the board so that clips can’t be plugged in wrong
@hvac014534 жыл бұрын
ya really....they could have at least colored them different.....OR..... its the same sensor, just installed in a different location. In this way, you could stock just one sensor in the truck.
@nakiapringley5391 Жыл бұрын
Awesome find brother 💯💯💯💯💯
@mychoclabwinston4 жыл бұрын
Remember when there was a A419, metering device, solenoid, evap fans, elements for defrost, on the roof, a compressor , time clock, fans, not all these boards that sit in -20C environments.
@JuanTodoli4 жыл бұрын
Si señor, good eye Macías 🧐 And another good one in pulling those cables sensors... just in case 👍
@1989Chrisc3 жыл бұрын
Also your valve will be open a lot more due to the defrost sensor being warmer than the suction line during operation. This could have ended bad for the compressor, id say it was a ball of ice
@bonganiedwardmthethwa6455 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and your humbleness.
@AlexGarcia-vv4ux4 жыл бұрын
Trimmed the beard got you looking like a true rookie out here 😂 but as usual great work 💪🏽 stay safe .
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks bro. 👶
@dunckeroo19874 жыл бұрын
Looks like the unit is going to be fine now. Yet one wonders if the original board was connected wrong and that is why it was replaced. It looks like one end of of the DFH retainer has fallen down or was pushed down by ice build-up.
@hvac014534 жыл бұрын
ya, I noted that too
@MrAnderson34 жыл бұрын
Good find bro!! Very informative, thinking about getting back into supermarket refrig, air conditioning can be pretty boring sometimes and with the current circumstances, no ones spending money on air conditioning being a luxury and you need service techs for supermarket refrig because shops never close😂thanks for the content 👍
@James-vf5gs4 жыл бұрын
I miss supermarket refrigeration too, what I don't miss is multiple midnight calls and 80-90hr weeks. I have had a few companies chase me lately and it's very tempting. What's keeping my inner nerd happy is Rookie refrigeration and Norcal Dave! I will stick to air cond for now...
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks bro.
@markpayne68033 жыл бұрын
Ba++y you're right about AC being a luxury but the way things are going in the US restaurants and bars are being shut down or restricted operating hours and in my area most Supermarkets are using union techs
@hvac014534 жыл бұрын
you questioned the placement of the probes "return/Supply".... I would check to see if the OEM was truly having the airflow like that. Someone may have replaced the blades or something... All the AHU I've seen PULL air through the coil. This also makes it much easier to clean the coil because the dirt is on the outer face of the coil. I have seen low velocity coils push air but then again those are usually on large up-flow types.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Nope. This is design. All stores have this. 😥
@harrydickson45754 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
A smart guy would use the available documentation, search for more if needed and use all available resources....... so that makes you a smarter guy :) as complex as everything has become, with many different versions, designs and manufactures it's vital to have documentation and lots of it.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thanks
@jamesmcguire50184 ай бұрын
Fair play for calling a recall a recall instead of bull shiting lolol
@gr82becool4 жыл бұрын
Way to go SUPERTECH!!!! 👍👍👍
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Bro I’m just trying to be like you. Super Refer Tech 🤣🤣
@alfredode61424 жыл бұрын
Saludos... Excelente análisis!!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Gracias
@michaelcave55974 жыл бұрын
I Would give you a double thumbs up for that one if I could, As with everything if you know how it works you can diagnose the fault and repair it, Boom 👊
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Thank you.
@jimmyp54874 жыл бұрын
Gotta change the settings for the beacon equipment at the main controller in the EMS panel. If it’s on EMS. Should be. If not can change parameters on the boards at each evap unit.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yeah this one didn’t have the ALC board.
@nixcoolfix4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff man 👍
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Noel Mont thanks bud
@mcotrucking42 жыл бұрын
What does a service call like that run for a customer?
@anthillmobstars4 жыл бұрын
Great find. Well done.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@markpayne68033 жыл бұрын
You said early in the video that the third tech out should be checking for everything well if you work for us the first tech out should be checking everything that's what they get paid for
@shine-cg9uf4 жыл бұрын
great troubleshooting. thanks for sharing
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
shine thanks bro
@RP-mt6bp Жыл бұрын
If the evaporator is maintained above 0 degrees Celsius, for the water not to freeze on coils, how is it possible that any well working freezer cools down to (minus) -21 degrees Celsius? Logically thinking, if the evaporator air-flow outlet temperature is +0.2 degrees Celsius, the temperature could not go under it (to -1, -2 … -21°C), would it? Can somebody, please answer this question that really knows the correct answer.
@RJMaker4 жыл бұрын
Nice Work, Good Find.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ryancurtis20384 жыл бұрын
At 8min 51 seconds when looking through the evap fans it appears that theres a burnt gray wire on the right. Is it actually burnt or does it just look that way?
@gregbowman35984 жыл бұрын
Go video brother
@treverkirk81104 жыл бұрын
Good find!
@Eric-ot6sn2 жыл бұрын
Good job
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
I'd guess it's flooding the evap coil too, since the suction temp reading is high until it eventually freezes into block and of course the defrost terminates way early. hard to say what else the controller would do wrong when in defrost or cooling, there could be many complex issues as it cycles icing further with time. likely they've never dreamed nor imagined that could happened and have nothing in programming and design to catch the issue. I guess they could have used all different plug types, but that would be a nightmare down the road. I guess they expected the tech to label them while removing or direct board to board swap that rat-nest, but was it ever right from the factory to start with?
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Exactly correct.
@markpayne68033 жыл бұрын
Hey Rookie love your videos I love TROUBLESHOOTING in my opinion it separates the techs from the part replacers I think I think I'll call you the Wizard
@rookierefrigeration43573 жыл бұрын
Lol. I’m just a rookie bro.
@mynhauzenneyman25844 жыл бұрын
Лайкос 🤔👍👍 сделайте с русскими субтитров !
@James-vf5gs4 жыл бұрын
For the record mate, I think you're pretty smart. G-day from the land down under. Keep the vids coming!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Morgan James thanks bro. I’ve been to Aus twice. Darwin and Townsville. Enjoyed both times
@bwcnation5 ай бұрын
Good catch
@hangngoaigiare4 жыл бұрын
You have to melt all those existing ice to able to test a full next good defrost? With that much ice all thing off. Another weird design air blow to the back.
@merardoreyes3020 Жыл бұрын
You are super smart man
@BigHuff-sq9hb3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm gonna be working on alot of beacon 2 coolers.
@rookierefrigeration43573 жыл бұрын
They are easy. Just read the manual.
@stanleyroberts24614 жыл бұрын
Good find,!!
@jimmyp54874 жыл бұрын
And your EEV is gonna flood the evap coil cause the suction line sensor is on the defrost sensor. Good find 🤘way to be thorough
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Yes sir that was definitely a side effect of the swap. Good catch
@mikepict90113 жыл бұрын
It seems like their trying to mess with time instead of adding hot gas two stage . Or thats the plan and why it only has one heater
@whitesheatingairappliancer71014 жыл бұрын
Great video. Could you increase the defrost termination temperature too 70 or 75 degrees Fahrenheit to defrost the remaining coil?
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
I think it was raised from 55 to 65 already. If any changes were to be made, I’d relocate that defrost sensor to inside the coil on the top part, right corner. That’s my next move if it ices up again.
@whitesheatingairappliancer71014 жыл бұрын
I get you.sensor would be iced up. For defrost to terminate, it would melt the ice. Hopefully manufacturer doesn't have any compromised parts effected by the prolonged heat. Take care rookie.
@timsambolin61532 жыл бұрын
Where did you go? I was hoping to see new videos
@JCM2LA4 жыл бұрын
Man you are good!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lol. I’m a mere mortal. Just a rookie
@JCM2LA4 жыл бұрын
@@rookierefrigeration4357. Not a rookie
@chicoabdallah39444 жыл бұрын
Good job bro.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro.
@MarcHord-mk5ff4 жыл бұрын
That is good catch man. It’s always the little stuff.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Marc Hord yup. Glad I caught it though.
@MarcHord-mk5ff4 жыл бұрын
Rookie Refrigeration makes the good tech, great. I always say, if you don’t want to know the truth, don’t send me!
@sincityhvacr4 жыл бұрын
nice
@sjefoekel60584 жыл бұрын
That is not the way to install an evap in that box. There is airflow issues, cant imagine some one in there right mind will do this, it blowing directly on the wall and bouncing back in the fans.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Installers bro 😂😂
@carloscervantes6184 жыл бұрын
That was some great troubleshooting!! Keep up that good work 💪🔥💯 Do all fans blow towards the coil or it could be both ways?
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
This one is designed to blow air across the coil like that. Just depends on the design.
@carloscervantes6184 жыл бұрын
@@rookierefrigeration4357 ohh ok got it, Thanks 👌
@jordanhorvath14404 жыл бұрын
What kind of pump sprayer is that?
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Home Depot special. Like 99$
@jfrancis984 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@steveblake87664 жыл бұрын
#205 thumbs uP
@bradmurray94014 жыл бұрын
Another good video. We're you in the military?
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
5 years USMC.
@bradmurray94014 жыл бұрын
@@rookierefrigeration4357 I thought you might. Thank you for your service, and I appreciate your videos. 👍
@MarcHord-mk5ff4 жыл бұрын
How is it the coolers and freezers are empty when you get there? I can never seem to be so lucky.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Marc Hord this manager was mad. He says it’s Ben empty for weeks 😂😂😂
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
are the defrost element supposed to be hanging that far below the coils on the end not defrosting as well? I don't recall seeing them hanging low on others, did the retainer clip pop out during shipper or from icing up solid? those hanging would make it defrost uneven since it's mostly convection heat then, vs. radiant almost directly into the fins and lowest tubing
@fesalmodi19094 жыл бұрын
What is the motor on the side for?? Min 2:36
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Fesal Modi that’s the Electronic expansion valve stepper motor.
@bmillwood66664 жыл бұрын
Why didnt the first guy have to go back and fix his mistakes? That's how you learn.
@jonnymac314 жыл бұрын
Probably got put in quarantine lol
@arambulaj234 жыл бұрын
Agree, he could have seen his mistake
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
After a tech or 2 have been on a call, they give it to “more experienced” guys. I’m not sure I fall into that category but I got it done😂😂😂
@josemagallanes77794 жыл бұрын
Nice of you not to talk down on the other guy like most youtubers i see here do.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Just a guy that made a mistake. That’s all
@josemagallanes77794 жыл бұрын
Rookie Refrigeration just have the same mercy for me too 😆
@Ag69724 жыл бұрын
Which thermal image are u using I’m looking to buy one Any recommendations
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Ag6972 this is the Flir one pro for iPhone. Just the attachment
@quanrawls39393 жыл бұрын
My hero
@throttlebottle59064 жыл бұрын
the rub-out look, my eyes caught that as camera looked in, then you put the text on screen, looked like the defrost sense lead also lol
@derrickgarcia3034 жыл бұрын
You da man!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Derrick Garcia thanks bro
@LMSILVIA4 жыл бұрын
Funny how techs in US add OUT to everything changeout, rubout, loadout....
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Agreed
@LMSILVIA4 жыл бұрын
@@GamblerMarco Oh how witty and funny. Pedazo idiota...
@markpayne68033 жыл бұрын
Now where I come from we say takeout eat out dine out and rub one out lol
@isaaccampos72764 жыл бұрын
No rookie mistake today 😥?? Just kidding good explanation bro keep it up!!!
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Lol. My next video has a great rookie mistake 🤣🤣🤣
@isaaccampos72764 жыл бұрын
Rookie Refrigeration looking forward for watching it!
@juan2511004 жыл бұрын
I will like to be like u one of these days.
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@christopherlucas620910 ай бұрын
A+++
@usarefurb22204 жыл бұрын
Cool
@sharky55704 жыл бұрын
Color code all plugs, it’s called idiot proofing😂🤣😂 but they make a better idiot everyday so meh.....
@rookierefrigeration43574 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😝
@dunckeroo19874 жыл бұрын
Something like 3m H-5223 wire coding tape : It has a plastic case that hold 10 rolls of 1/4 wide tape with numbers -- also comes in colors. Maybe the manufacture could also save itself some trouble by coding each end of the cable. And Yes, some manufactures offer their connector solutions in multiple colors. One could also use a standard label printer or Sharpie markers , if one needed to sort out a mess.