Registering a New Battery in a BMW with Autel and Why

[@frugalprepper]

Is there an F4 for "I am broke so I got a $25 used battery from the junk yard"?

[@FishFind3000]

FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden then don’t register it

[@Zib187]

Yep it's either the junk yard battery or the cheapest battery from Wal-Mart that's 3 times too small for the car.

[@frugalprepper]

@@FishFind3000 What about the sulfated one I put epsom salt in to get by a few more paydays!

[@NewLevelAuto]

My first customer recommendation would be to see a psychiatrist to figure out why you were broke and felt you still needed a BMW .😉

[@frugalprepper]

@@NewLevelAuto Well Keith, those people are EVERYWHERE! They tell themselves they deserve it because they work so hard, and they NEED it because they need reliable transportation. Most of the time they are able to squeeze by with the payments. Since they are dumb enough to believe the deserve it and need it, they are dumb enough to believe BMW's are good reliable cars. Then it's like SURPRISE, it's broken again and the credit cards are all maxed out. Frugal Tom is always there to make a quick $25 with some epsom salt!

[@Zib187]

The AZ that i work at has a LOT of BMW, Mercedes, & Audi owners. They get pissed when we tell them that we can't install a new battery in their car because of the battery needing to be registered or that it screws up the security with the car without having the proper tools or qualified people to do the job right. I've found that the people that own these cars are the cheapest car owners out there. Even the guys with the rusted out Chevy's spend more money on their cars that the owners of these fish bowls.

[@chrischiampo7647]

I Couldn’t Agree With You More I’ve Seen It Firsthand Myself 😎🧰😳

[@Troy_Built]

I totally agree.

[@cindyeva7454]

They are over extended financially often times buying a car beyond their means to look cool or brag,then reality hits home and it can be very expensive

[@caveman95987]

The people that cheap out on these cars bought them used and didn't know what they got themselves into. You have to either go to an expert level shop that specializes in that brand or go to the dealer, period. A lot of these vehicles can last, especially the newer ones but proper maintenance is key.

[@integritymotorcar2334]

Have you ever tried to press F2 or F3 for retrofit of the VO to a different capacity or type of battery? Despite those 2 options being listed, they do not work when using the factory tool which is all we use. Retrofitting a battery is a programing procedure in ISTA. I wonder if it can be done by simply pressing F2 or F3 on the aftermarket tool? Remember to check the VO to see if it has actually changed. On another note, it seems obvious that Autel copied the ISTA software due to it asking if there is a QR code or the like on the new battery. This is done for warranty and brand tracking at the OE level; so I'm not sure why Autel or any other aftermarket tool manufacturer would concern themselves with that. It leads one to think it was part of the software cloning process, which would be illegal if the aftermarket tool manufacturer did not have permission from BMW for use of that intellectual property. This "unknown" is just one of many reasons we do not use aftermarket scan tools. Of course, each business needs to do what suites their needs best.

[@jcsuperstars1100]

I've changed battery type/size with an Autologic. Which is better than ISTA, autel etc.. I do also have an Autel, which I love.

[@flatratemaster]

I have not, but Autel will program, not that i approve of that. If needed in the past we would do a day sub for ISTA, but as soon as our ICOM gets here, Ordered just waiting for the box to arrive, we will be doing the year sub, and have full access to Air, ISTA/ISTA p etc

[@ScienceOfDiagnostics]

Good reminder that even seemingly simple tasks have additional steps due to the level of sophistication in modern vehicles. Keep up the good work.

[@flatratemaster]

Thanks Chris

[@cindyeva7454]

Good info for folks,we get a lot of new aftermarket unregistered batteries at the dealer that were toasted,most people dont know about the adaptive charging

[@flatratemaster]

We get them too

[@meanodustino9563]

Cars are just stupid now, requires the technician take MORE time to do basic jobs. Soon belts will be coded I’m sure and this will set your idle when registered 🤣.

[@jcsuperstars1100]

Drive belts are going away all together.

[@toplineautomotive5944]

VERY IMPORTANT ON newer ford vehicles as well had a customer who had their battery replaced by aaa and 3 months later it was dead

[@nicholasierubino8223]

That brings up a very important note on AAA. I have seen that time and time again. The best is when they install a lead acid on a AGM system dont adapt it or do it on a Benz and dont replace the auxiliary battery. Had this happen for 2 months in a row on high end cars, all exactly 6 months after the local AAA replaced batteries.

[@RecklessEnterainment]

If it’s smart enough to change the charging rate for a battery overtime as it degrades, why isn’t it smart enough to tell when there is a new battery in it?

[@FishFind3000]

Reckless entertainment how would It know unless the battery had a computer on it? If you disconnect the battery the car is smart enough to think you may have changed it so it allows you to then mess with the battery options. Otherwise you can’t play with that. There’s no way for it to know it’s new.

[@bannablitz247]

I would put it more on greed and a reason to get you to the dealer than that we don't have the tech to determine if a battery is holding a charge over night.

[@andybub45]

All of this just to replace a battery... over engineering at its finest.

[@adamsavage4155]

Really? You're telling me engineering couldn't figure a way fie the ECU to monitor battery condition and charge accordingly?

[@rickszabo4312]

Change a battery and a quick LOF on a Beamer.4 hours later still screwing with a scanner, Whyyyy?

[@monkfoobar]

3:22 what! It needs to set the date and time to register the battery but it can possibly set the wrong date and time. And it doesn’t matter because it instructs you to reset it manually. That is a classic program designer trick to obfuscate what is really being done.

[@93sundance]

I guess that's a good idea but I miss two battery cables and a hold down and your done.

[@derekkchung]

Ok. Ah and CCA are units of same measurement. Ah * 7.25 = CCA. Say u bought a 615CCA battery, it is 84.8 ah. And Autel DOES NOT allow u to go back from AGM to lead acid battery setting? Or ISTA could?

[@samshim3149]

I change a lot of batteries at AutoZone, so I’m glad I’m watching this. The last thing I want to do is screw up someone’s vehicle.

[@wyattoneable]

When I move to Germany I'm shipping an old Chevy. But good information to know for sure. Everything takes a scanner these days.

[@frugalprepper]

Will Germans allow Chevys?

[@wyattoneable]

@@frugalprepper They will. It's a matter of paying their taxes and passing the safety and emission inspections.

[@Longtrailside]

My cars are old and wise enough to not need it. They can regulate simple voltage on their own and don't care what type of battery is put in them. I seriously miss when cars weren't computers with pistons.

[@mplscarsales6652]

Got a question so my battery saver mode came on took battery out charged tested with load it passed put it back and light still on . 2013 Cadillac ATS my problem is it’s not charging at all because it sees it charged and will let it go down to 11.5 before it starts charging it . So my question is so big a scanner that register/clear code It’s not the alternator this car has Battery Managment service . Please help .

[@abc123-d2t]

Thanks for showing how to use the Autel to registering the battery you are awesome .

[@achristian7015]

That tells me nothing as far as what that Autel can do. You should have gone to 2 to see what can really be entered.

[@rogerf3622]

Thx really value your knowledge, skills and experiences. Thx for sharing. Especially like the how-to vids involving special or new tech trends.

[@nicknicu1787]

Great video and explanation FRM! For the keyboard warriors that are going to cry over this and blame it on European vehicles,get over it,it’s coming to all manufactures just like FRM explained! Adapt or become obsolete as a technician!

[@flatratemaster]

Exactly

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Flat rate when you say the exact same battery do you mean a dealer provided battery or can it be a different brand with the exact same specs? Just wasn't clear on that the way you said the exact same. Thanks in advance for any info 👍👍👍

[@FishFind3000]

Arthur Fricchione same cca and hours size. Also needs to be the same mag or lead acid

[@flatratemaster]

Same size/cca

[@Ram2253spd]

Nice simple explanation

[@bobneuman8124]

Do you know of any place where we would be able to get a list of all vehicle makes and models requiring battery registration ? I've checked and cannot find any. I think it would be more quick and efficient than having to look up every vehicle when replacing the battery.

[@Blazer02LS]

BMW, Mini Cooper, Ford F-series, some Mercedes are ones I can think of at the moment.

[@flatratemaster]

Audis too

[@bobneuman8124]

@@Blazer02LS Yes, and also newer Ford Escape and Fusion if I'm not mistaken. I hope one day some of these battery companies will supply a list of vehicles requiring it. 😀

[@caveman95987]

It only gets better. Some BMWs have two batteries in various locations. Now BMW is going to lithium batteries, imagine forking out for one of those, yikes.

[@powderriver2424]

That was an eye opener typically I’d never own a BMW or German car except a VW, which I’d probably never buy again but I can see this operation in domestic cars I’m just frustrated to no need that cars are too complicated. I just need conveyance from point A to point B lord just give me simple.

[@shawnj-o1k]

Much better option than 500 programmers or places that register it for you for 200 plus lol Thanks for the video affordable equipment and easy fix If your in good with a dealership you got your car from they will usually do these things for free if you already bought and did your own replacement

[@ed81ny]

Forgot to rest focus! Lol i think you just wanted to bleep your face out. 🤣🤣 And this folks is reason number one as to why you don't have a parts store touch your car. Lol

[@harold6863]

From. BMW Master in England great work thanks for letting people know and sharing your knowledge. We come across this a lot from older cars that have had batteries replaced at service centres and fry. Other thing they will fit a non AGM which is just as bad. One thing to add if I may is when you do a registration to record it for future warranty proof. You Sir are the best 👍

[@glen-ozzstarscars8474]

Easy enough, I might even be able to handle it. haha

[@flatratemaster]

Probably not Glen😉

[@glen-ozzstarscars8474]

@@flatratemaster lol

[@vintagebikewurx3730]

I've personally seen a key off draw go from 2 days til dead to normal just from registering the battery.

[@MWalsh_NY]

Process is the same regardless if it’s e, f, or g chassis? Looked like you were doing a f chassis car.

[@tommyross2959]

Great video, this has nothing to do with this ved. But I bought the same O2 sensor tools you showed, and I love them .😉

[@nicholasierubino8223]

Great tip, short, simple, IMPORTANT! Nice job Mike!

[@CopCat34]

Great video. Thanks for the quick class.

[@charless3112]

That's awesome what model is the Autel tool?

[@montestu5502]

I learned something new today.

[@johngibson3594]

Thanks for the info

[@honda_doc6826]

Interesting.

[@genawilcox9039]

Is this only apply to BMW only?

[@flatratemaster]

No, BMW,some Audis, MB, and Fords

[@garyharms276]

Your still pretty even when your blurry...lol

[@chrischiampo7647]

What’s the Procedure When Installing A Used Battery FRM 🤕😳👨🏼‍🔧🧨🧰

[@GCraigmile]

Why not just buy a car that is smart?? Any thing from 1950 and up can take a new battery and know how much to charge it.. Wow!! Any car that can’t regulate its charge from the resistance of the battery is NOT worth having. 😳😳

[@jcsuperstars1100]

I've seen BMW batteries last 8-9 years. I think they know what they are doing. Get over it.

[@Troy_Built]

@@jcsuperstars1100 I've seen several AC Delcos go 10-11 years your point?

[@jcsuperstars1100]

Troy Built ,I’m impressed by that. But my point was it isn’t a big deal to register a battery. Bmw would kill batteries in 3-5 years before they switched over to the IBS system. I also guarantee those delco batteries weren’t on cars with as high of an electrical load as a 5 or 7 series bmw.

[@Troy_Built]

@@jcsuperstars1100 If they want to make a more efficient system I have no argument with that . The problem is what they require to program it. The have designed it to be much harder than it needs to be. I have access to scanners but the average owner doesn't. They seem to have intentionally tried to make it take an expensive special tool just to change the battery. That I have a problem with. I'm sure all manufacturers would love to make it illegal for a car owner to do anything more than put gas in it.